Re: Datagrid Default Column Behavior

2010-10-04 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.comwrote:

 What is the correct way to set the default column behavior of a datagrid so
 that the script is entered for columns which have been customised to contain
 option menus?

 I have set the default column behavior property for the datagrid but suing
 debug shows that the script is only executed for columns that hve not been
 customised in some way.


When you create a custom column the behavior script of the column template
is assigned to the behavior that is created alongside the column template.
The default column behavior only applies to column templates that do not
have a behavior assigned. Just set the behavior of your new column template
to empty and then it will inherit the default behavior.

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Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Ben,

 On 04/10/2010 13:31, Klaus on-rev wrote:
 does someone know if there is a mesge that is sent AFTER a URL has loaded
 but BEFORE it is displayed, so one can check the source html and maybe cancel
 the display if necessary?
 
 Hi Klaus:
 
 browserBeforeNavigate.
 You can investigate the URL, and if you don't like it, set the global 
 browserCancel.

Ah, yes, I will still have to load the url though, but this will do, thanks!

I was hoping for something that might already give me revbrowserget XY, 
htmltext :-)

 Ben

Best

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Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Klaus,

You can have a hidden revBrowser window where you load things, if it suits
you then, you load things on the visible one after fiddling with the hidden
one. Kinda cumbersome but it works, if all you need to check is in the HTML
source then it is better with libURL calls under beforeNavigate but if the
interaction with the server needs cookies then maybe you'd better use a
hidden revbrowser

Andre

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote:

 Hi Ben,

  On 04/10/2010 13:31, Klaus on-rev wrote:
  does someone know if there is a mesge that is sent AFTER a URL has
 loaded
  but BEFORE it is displayed, so one can check the source html and maybe
 cancel
  the display if necessary?
 
  Hi Klaus:
 
  browserBeforeNavigate.
  You can investigate the URL, and if you don't like it, set the global
 browserCancel.

 Ah, yes, I will still have to load the url though, but this will do,
 thanks!

 I was hoping for something that might already give me revbrowserget XY,
 htmltext :-)

  Ben

 Best

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Re: LiveCode Datagrid Questions

2010-10-04 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.comwrote:

 I'm having a number of issues with datagrids created in LiveCode 4.5.
  Datagrids created by Revolution 4.0 still work fine.



 I am unable to create custom column behaviors for any columns using the
 recommended method.  I click the plus sign for the column, the card with the
 row template is displayed, I select the row template group but the Edit
 Group button in the toolbar or on the Object menu is greyed out and doesn't
 function.  If I select the card containing the template for the datagrid,
 then select the Row Template group,  the Edit Group command is available to
 me.


Hi Peter,

Are you sure you are selecting the row template group? By chance do you have
Select Grouped active in the toolbar? If it is then you are selecting one
of the controls in the group and not the group itself.


 I have a default column behavior script which I use for all my datagrids.
  Those created under 4.0 correctly execute the various handlers in that
 script but any created under 4.5 never execute any of the handlers in that
 script (the default column behavior is set to the correct button).


Hard to say without knowing more details. What troubleshooting steps have
you taken thus far?


 I see two new handlers in the default column behavior supplied with
 LiveCode - PreFillinData and ResetData.  What are some uses for these
 handlers?


These two messages are for advanced use cases where you need to know that
data is being unloaded from a row/column.

For example, let's say you dynamically create player objects in rows of a
data grid when the user clicks a play button to sample a song. If the user
then scrolls that row out of view you might want to do something with the
player object you created dynamically. PreFillinData would allow you to do
that.


 I also saw a recent post to this list regarding some new built in drag and
 drop reordering handlers in the default script - they don't appear in my
 default script.


There is no code that goes in the default script. I haven't documented the
drag/drop routines officially but I have posted examples of using it to the
list. I have yet to go through the routines and ensure that I'm completely
happy with the API so they remain undocumented until I do so.

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Re: loading a https page on OS X

2010-10-04 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 I tried to load a page from an https server and got of course an
 error because the user certicitate was not found.

 No username or password required for the site!

 the result was:
 error -Error with certificate at depth: 0  issuer  ...
 ...
 ...
 err 20:unable to get local issuer certificate

 So since any internt browser can do this,  my question is how can I do?

 Are there any generic certificates in some folder on the users hd that I
 can
 set the sslcerificates to?


Yes, grab the cert.pem file that curl publishes:

http://curl.haxx.se/ca/cacert.pem

Include it with your app and point the sslcerificates to it.

Also, 4.5 has experimental support for loading SSL certs installed on the
system. I haven't tested this yet but that may be a solution for you as well
if you aren't using 4.5 yet.

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Re: loading a https page on OS X

2010-10-04 Thread Terry Judd


On 04/10/2010, at 5:47 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.de wrote:

 Hi Terry,
 
 the data is still sent/returned securely, I just don't need to stuff around 
 with certificates?
 
 I think so, but I would like a word from someone who knows better than me.. 
 :-) 
 
Agreed. I'm clueless about this side of things and would love to see a lesson 
up on the RunRev site on https, certificates and the like.

Regards,

Terry...
 All the best,
 
 Malte
 
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Re: Drag drop reordering of a DataGrid form

2010-10-04 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:32 AM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.comwrote:

 Just to clarify, this is a change in the datagrid library itself not
 in the LiveCode engine.
 I have tried this by using the revdatagridlibrary stack from the
 LiveCode 4.5 into my version of Revolution 4.5 dp2 and now I have to
 set the dragAction to make the reorder perform.


In the dgDragMove handler update the code that sets the dragAction to this:

## Make sure data grid control will accept drop
if the dragSource contains the long ID of me and (the mouseControl is not
empty and the long id of the mouseControl contains the long ID of me) then
   set the dragAction to move
end if

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Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Andre,

 Klaus,
 
 You can have a hidden revBrowser window where you load things, if it suits
 you then, you load things on the visible one after fiddling with the hidden
 one. Kinda cumbersome but it works,

Yep, I wanted to avoid this.

 if all you need to check is in the HTML
 source then it is better with libURL calls under beforeNavigate

Yes, that's what I do now, load the URL and then check the html source first
and put true into browsercancel if necessary.

Takes a lillte more time, but what the heck :-D

Unfortunately browsercancel is also not in the docs as 
libUrlSetSSLVerification
I was looking for yesterday :-/

 but if the
 interaction with the server needs cookies then maybe you'd better use a
 hidden revbrowser
 
 Andre

Thanks!


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Re: ANN: A true scrolling canvas demo

2010-10-04 Thread Claudi Cornaz

Hi all,

Unfortunatly there was a small error in my code, which Thierry found.  
A local var with the wrong name (sMoveFlag instead of sMoveObj)


I have uploaded a new version with the correction. Sorry for this  
unconvienience.

(working on to many scripts at the same time)

Best wishes,
   Claudi


On 3 okt 2010, at 23:30, Claudi Cornaz wrote:


Hi All,

I am glad to anounce the ccScroller group.

After many years, on and off, trying to get it to work right, I  
finaly succeeded in creating a true scrolling canvas like group.


I managed to get something to work before but now I found a simple  
and elegant solution.


You can drag objects around in the group and the canvas will  
always adept to the placement of the objects.

It grows and shrinks as neccesary, in the expected and sane way.

The final piece I needed was mentioned by Richard quiete a few weeks  
ago, the boundingRect.
The boundingRect alone isn't sufficient but it turned out to be a  
crucial extra piece I needed to acomplish this canvas group.


I tryed to uploaded it to revOnLine but after I logged out I  
couldn't log in anymore.
Apparently the password they send me this afternoon is wrong now. I  
don't know.
So I have no idea if the upload went correctly because I can't find  
it nowhere anymore. Revonline seems a bit flaky at the moment.

I will try again later.

Probably the easyest way to get the stack is to execute the  
following in the messagebox:


go stack URL http://www.claudi.on-rev.com/livecode/ccScroller_demo.rev 


and check it out.

I hope (some of) you find it usefull

All the best
 Claudi
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Re: Sort question

2010-10-04 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Bonjour Yves,

I propose this one:

put fld fld1 into tText
replace slash with space in tText
set the itemDel to tab
sort lines of tText ascending numeric by word 1 of item 2 of each
sort lines of tText ascending numeric by word 2 of item 2 of each
replace space with slash in tText
put tText into fld fld2 -- or fld1 as well of course

Best regards from Grenoble

André

Le 3 oct. 10 à 15:57, Yves COPPE a écrit :


Hi list

I have a list of lines
each line has a first name  tab  a date (French format : DD/MM/)

I want to sort the list on the DD/MM date without taking the   
into account


Here a sample :

Jean13/01/2017
Luc 03/07/2017
Bern02/09/2015
Michel  06/01/2018
Bert01/06/2016
Jo  13/02/2016
Rob 26/03/2018
Nick15/01/2015

gives

Michel  06/01/2018
Jean13/01/2017
Nick15/01/2015
Jo  13/02/2016
Rob 26/03/2018
Bert01/06/2016
Luc 03/07/2017
Bern02/09/2015

Can someone help me to to that ?

Thanks.

Amicalement.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be



Greetings.

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
mac 10.6.4   your revlets run fine here too !


 At least on my machine...
 
 I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; 
 I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
 that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
 not fixed)
 
 Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
 Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-
 
 The revlets web page:
 http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev
 
 Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the
 result, along with your Mac OS X version?
 
 TIA :-)
 
 PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got
 only one bug report, along with the crash log
 
 PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and
 10.6.2...
 
 PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also...
 
 (-8 Médard
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Re: Re: loading a https page on OS X

2010-10-04 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
Hi Terry,

 the data is still sent/returned securely, I just don't need to stuff around 
 with certificates?

I think so, but I would like a word from someone who knows better than me.. :-) 

All the best,

Malte

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Re: loading a https page on OS X

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Malte:

 Klaus:
 
libUrlSetSSLVerification false

Yo!

 hth,

id

 Malte

Klaus :-)

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
BNig niggem...@uni-wh.de wrote:

 your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro Intel.

Thank you, and also to all who have responded :-)

Mmm... I forgot the new Safari version 5.x as a possible culprit*
-- but I see that it works on your machine!

* Safari 5 has a new extension scheme
is it possible it may conflict with the nprevweb extension?
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RE: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread John Dixon

mac 10.6.4   your revlets run fine here !

John Dixon

 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 From: liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com
 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:01:12 +0200
 Subject: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?
 
 At least on my machine...
 
 I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; 
 I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
 that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
 not fixed)
 
 Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
 Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-
 
 The revlets web page:
 http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev
 
 Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the
 result, along with your Mac OS X version?
 
 TIA :-)
 
 PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got
 only one bug report, along with the crash log
 
 PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and
 10.6.2...
 
 PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also...
 
 (-8 Médard
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Re: Sort question

2010-10-04 Thread Yves COPPE


Le 4 oct. 10 à 09:18, Andre.Bisseret a écrit :


Bonjour Yves,

I propose this one:

put fld fld1 into tText
replace slash with space in tText
set the itemDel to tab
sort lines of tText ascending numeric by word 1 of item 2 of each
sort lines of tText ascending numeric by word 2 of item 2 of each
replace space with slash in tText
put tText into fld fld2 -- or fld1 as well of course

Best regards from Grenoble



Hello André,

ok, it works fine
very easy solution
Thanks.
(et un grand bonjour de Belgique)

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Medard,

 At least on my machine...
 
 I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; 
 I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
 that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
 not fixed)
 Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
 Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-
 The revlets web page:
 http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev
 Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the
 result, along with your Mac OS X version?
 
 TIA :-)
 
 PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got
 only one bug report, along with the crash log

Yep, that was me! :-)

 PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and
 10.6.2...
 
 PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also...
 
 (-8 Médard

Best

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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-04 Thread JosepM

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Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 04/10/2010 13:31, Klaus on-rev wrote:

does someone know if there is a mesge that is sent AFTER a URL has loaded
but BEFORE it is displayed, so one can check the source html and maybe cancel
the display if necessary?


Hi Klaus:

browserBeforeNavigate.

You can investigate the URL, and if you don't like it, set the global 
browserCancel.


Ben
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RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all,

does someone know if there is a mesge that is sent AFTER a URL has loaded 
but BEFORE it is displayed, so one can check the source html and maybe cancel 
the display if necessary?

Did not find it in hte docs.
BrowserDocumentComplete will be too late, page is already displayed.

Any hints very appreciated!


Best

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Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 04/10/2010 14:14, Klaus on-rev wrote:

Hi Ben,


On 04/10/2010 13:31, Klaus on-rev wrote:

does someone know if there is a mesge that is sent AFTER a URL has loaded
but BEFORE it is displayed, so one can check the source html and maybe cancel
the display if necessary?


Hi Klaus:

browserBeforeNavigate.
You can investigate the URL, and if you don't like it, set the global 
browserCancel.


Ah, yes, I will still have to load the url though, but this will do, thanks!

I was hoping for something that might already give me revbrowserget XY, 
htmltext :-)


D'oh, I completely missed the point from your question.  Sorry!

Ben
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Re: adding new object to background group

2010-10-04 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Bonjour,

Le 4 oct. 10 à 04:02, dunb...@aol.com a écrit :


I think someone (Jacques, probably)

Yes was Jacque


pointed out that there is a direct way
to do this. Wasn't it using the copy object to group form of the  
copy
command? I am not near Rev, er Livecode right now, but there was a  
way, posted

several months ago.

copy object1 to group thisGrp works
create object in grp thisGrp works too

Best regards from Grenoble

André


I still have slight conceptual blocks with groups, especially as
represented by this particular question. The above method bypassed  
the firewall that

groups still throw up (in my face, at least). That they need not be
deconstructed in order to get control of their inner workings is a  
natural and
comforting feature, and was an example of how a simple, native  
solution cut

through a lot of opacity. If only I could remember all these cuties.

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread BNig

Hi Dominique,
your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro Intel.

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Re: Datagrid option menu initialisation

2010-10-04 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.comwrote:

 I have defined an option menu in a datagrid column whose contents are
 created by reading data from an SQLite database - the contents will be the
 same for each instance of the option menu and should be loaded when the card
 containing the datagrid is opened.  Where should I put the code to create
 the option menu contents?


In the card that contains the data grid :-)

In the preopencard or openCard message query the database, update the menu
button text in the data grid template and then load the data grid. Since the
template has the updated menu text all instances of your column will contain
the updated menu text.

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Feture request? WAS Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all,

 Klaus,
 
 You can have a hidden revBrowser window where you load things, if it suits
 you then, you load things on the visible one after fiddling with the hidden
 one. Kinda cumbersome but it works, if all you need to check is in the HTML
 source then it is better with libURL calls under beforeNavigate but if the
 interaction with the server needs cookies then maybe you'd better use a
 hidden revbrowser
 
 Andre

maybe this is an idea for a feature request?

I mean to have a message that gets sent when:
1. an URL has been loaded in RevBrowser BUT
2. right BEFORE it is going to be displayed!

So one could check the htmltext to not/allow the display.
Know what I mean? Something like BrowserDocumentLoaded

What do you think?


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Re: Feture request? WAS Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 04/10/2010 15:24, Klaus on-rev wrote:

Hi all,


Klaus,

You can have a hidden revBrowser window where you load things, if it suits
you then, you load things on the visible one after fiddling with the hidden
one. Kinda cumbersome but it works, if all you need to check is in the HTML
source then it is better with libURL calls under beforeNavigate but if the
interaction with the server needs cookies then maybe you'd better use a
hidden revbrowser

Andre


maybe this is an idea for a feature request?

I mean to have a message that gets sent when:
1. an URL has been loaded in RevBrowser BUT
2. right BEFORE it is going to be displayed!

So one could check the htmltext to not/allow the display.
Know what I mean? Something like BrowserDocumentLoaded


FWIW, I think this could be a useful feature, but is a relatively obscure 
requirement.  I'd support it, but with much lower priority than other 
requests, eg http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6986


Ben
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Re: Feture request? WAS Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
I'd vote for it!

not that my votes ever came into fruition...

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote:

 On 04/10/2010 15:24, Klaus on-rev wrote:

 Hi all,

  Klaus,

 You can have a hidden revBrowser window where you load things, if it
 suits
 you then, you load things on the visible one after fiddling with the
 hidden
 one. Kinda cumbersome but it works, if all you need to check is in the
 HTML
 source then it is better with libURL calls under beforeNavigate but if
 the
 interaction with the server needs cookies then maybe you'd better use a
 hidden revbrowser

 Andre


 maybe this is an idea for a feature request?

 I mean to have a message that gets sent when:
 1. an URL has been loaded in RevBrowser BUT
 2. right BEFORE it is going to be displayed!

 So one could check the htmltext to not/allow the display.
 Know what I mean? Something like BrowserDocumentLoaded


 FWIW, I think this could be a useful feature, but is a relatively obscure
 requirement.  I'd support it, but with much lower priority than other
 requests, eg http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6986

 Ben

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Re: Feture request? WAS Re: RevBrowser question

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all,

Am 04.10.2010 um 16:32 schrieb Andre Garzia:

 I'd vote for it!
 not that my votes ever came into fruition...

OK, will post a feature request then. This would making secure browser a lot 
easier!

Not that we are going to see this any sooner than LiveCode 8.2 ;-)

 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote:
 On 04/10/2010 15:24, Klaus on-rev wrote:
 Hi all,
 Klaus,
 You can have a hidden revBrowser window where you load things, if it
 suits
 you then, you load things on the visible one after fiddling with the
 hidden
 one. Kinda cumbersome but it works, if all you need to check is in the
 HTML
 source then it is better with libURL calls under beforeNavigate but if
 the
 interaction with the server needs cookies then maybe you'd better use a
 hidden revbrowser
 Andre
 
 maybe this is an idea for a feature request?
 
 I mean to have a message that gets sent when:
 1. an URL has been loaded in RevBrowser BUT
 2. right BEFORE it is going to be displayed!
 
 So one could check the htmltext to not/allow the display.
 Know what I mean? Something like BrowserDocumentLoaded
 
 FWIW, I think this could be a useful feature, but is a relatively obscure
 requirement.  I'd support it, but with much lower priority than other
 requests, eg http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6986
 
 Ben

Best

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Richard Gaskin

Medard wrote:


At least on my machine...

I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June;
I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
not fixed)

Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-

The revlets web page:
http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev


I wasn't able to load the page (timeout), but I'm wondering:  are you 
setting the cursor there?


There's an issue reported against OS X 10.6.4 related to setting cursors:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=9021

If you follow the links I added there from a note on the improve-rev 
list from Mark Wieder, you'll find that there are a great many apps 
crashing under OS X 10.6.4.


In some cases (including two instances with a Rev-based app I've been 
testing) it not only crashed the Rev engine, but also brought down the 
Finder and made most other user processes inaccessible, something that 
shouldn't be possible in a Unix system.


So if your issue is like those I've seen and like so many are seeing 
with other apps, we may have to wait for OS X 10.6.5 to fix them.


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unlocked field messages?

2010-10-04 Thread DunbarX
I see in the message watcher that both a mouseDown and a 
mouseDoubleDown message are sent to an unlocked field when one clicks in 
them. Yet I 
cannot trap these messages. Anyone know why?

There is activity there, of course. For example, a double click selects the 
clicked word, and a triple click selects the entire line. These messages 
would be useful, I think, if one could only trap them.

I was surprised, coming from HC, where such messages are simply not sent at 
all, that the possibility existed. 

Thanks,

Craig Newman
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Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
At least on my machine...

I upgraded from Mac OS X 10.6.2 to 10.6.4 at the end of June; 
I don't remember if I acceded the installed revlets on my web page after
that date -- maybe NOT, if I refer to the visitors IP (my personal IP is
not fixed)

Briefly, I think that the revlets runned correctly with Mac OS X 10.6.2
Now, under 10.6.4 the crash is immediate ;-

The revlets web page:
http://medard.on-rev.com/RevWeb/index.irev

Can you, on your side, test any revlet on this web page, and report the
result, along with your Mac OS X version?

TIA :-)

PS: the technical support is aware of this bug, but excepted me they got
only one bug report, along with the crash log

PS2: tested on others machines, that runs smoothly on 10.5.8 and
10.6.2...

PS3: I tested on a fresh Guest account, and that crashes also...

(-8 Médard
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Re: Sort question

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi,

I finally had a chance to check it. And won't work indeed. You need to use 
two subsequent sort commands (I know this has been discussed already, I just 
want to avoid any confusion).

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Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No 
additional software needed.

On 3 okt 2010, at 17:08, Mark Schonewille wrote:

 Hi,
 
  won't always workshop corrector. Probably you neef to use 'and' and sort 
 numeric.
 

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Jeff Reynolds

Médard,

works fine on safari 5.0.2 on 10.5.8, so not 5.0.2 by itself seems to  
be a problem. i can try 5.0.2/10.6.4 late today for you.


cheers

jeff



On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:32 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com  
wrote:


your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro  
Intel.


Thank you, and also to all who have responded :-)

Mmm... I forgot the new Safari version 5.x as a possible culprit*
-- but I see that it works on your machine!

* Safari 5 has a new extension scheme
is it possible it may conflict with the nprevweb extension?


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Re: ANN: Installer Maker Plugin 1.4.1

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hello,

I have been notified that the zip file containing the Installer Maker Plugin 
didn't decompress correctly. Just in case you tried it and were unable to make 
any sense out if it: a working copy of the Installer Maker Plugin, wrapped in a 
correctly compressed ZIP file, can be downloaded at http://qurl.tk/ce but you 
can also use the web installer, which can be downloaded from the same page.

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
BTW methinks the new FLASH 10.x stuff is crashing the current Safari version
- I finally switched to the latest WEBKIT browser daily build  (the latest
beta of Safari, really):

http://webkit.org/


On 4 October 2010 10:43, Jeff Reynolds j...@siphonophore.com wrote:

 Médard,

 works fine on safari 5.0.2 on 10.5.8, so not 5.0.2 by itself seems to be a
 problem. i can try 5.0.2/10.6.4 late today for you.

 cheers

 jeff




 On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:32 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

  your revlets work for me: MacOSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2, MacBook Pro Intel.


 Thank you, and also to all who have responded :-)

 Mmm... I forgot the new Safari version 5.x as a possible culprit*
 -- but I see that it works on your machine!

 * Safari 5 has a new extension scheme
 is it possible it may conflict with the nprevweb extension?


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Re: ANN: A true scrolling canvas demo

2010-10-04 Thread Roger Guay
Nice job, Claudi! Thanks for sharing it.

Cheers, Roger 

On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:32 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

 Message: 9
 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:30:34 +0200
 From: Claudi Cornaz claud...@fiberworld.nl
 Subject: ANN: A true scrolling canvas demo
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Message-ID: 909e5dfd-538f-477f-ad9e-b9f854655...@fiberworld.nl
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am glad to anounce the ccScroller group.
 
 After many years, on and off, trying to get it to work right, I finaly  
 succeeded in creating a true scrolling canvas like group.
 
 I managed to get something to work before but now I found a simple and  
 elegant solution.
 
 You can drag objects around in the group and the canvas will always  
 adept to the placement of the objects.
 It grows and shrinks as neccesary, in the expected and sane way.
 
 The final piece I needed was mentioned by Richard quiete a few weeks  
 ago, the boundingRect.
 The boundingRect alone isn't sufficient but it turned out to be a  
 crucial extra piece I needed to acomplish this canvas group.
 
 I tryed to uploaded it to revOnLine but after I logged out I couldn't  
 log in anymore.
 Apparently the password they send me this afternoon is wrong now. I  
 don't know.
 So I have no idea if the upload went correctly because I can't find it  
 nowhere anymore. Revonline seems a bit flaky at the moment.
 I will try again later.
 
 Probably the easyest way to get the stack is to execute the following  
 in the messagebox:
 
 go stack URL http://www.claudi.on-rev.com/livecode/ccScroller_demo.rev;
 and check it out.
 
 I hope (some of) you find it usefull
 
 All the best
   Claudi

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[OT} is WebP going anywhere, and if it is how will LiveCode cope with it?

2010-10-04 Thread Richmond

 http://code.google.com/speed/webp/download.html

Is this just Google trying to extend its imperialistic influence
even further, or is this s serious competitor up against
PNG and GIF?

Is RunRev/LiveCode going to be able to import and export WebP
in a future recension?
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Re: ANN: A true scrolling canvas demo

2010-10-04 Thread Jim Lambert
Claudi,

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

Jim Lambert
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Re: [OT} is WebP going anywhere, and if it is how will LiveCode cope with it?

2010-10-04 Thread Ian Wood
WepP doesn't really offer anything over JPEG, I honestly can't see any reason 
for it to take off.

File sizes can be slightly smaller, but it has the same bit depth, *smaller* 
pixel dimension limits, doesn't appear to include a progressive download spec 
like JPEG, doesn't include an alpha layer for transparency like PNGs etc. etc.

Ian

On 4 Oct 2010, at 17:04, Richmond wrote:

 http://code.google.com/speed/webp/download.html
 
 Is this just Google trying to extend its imperialistic influence
 even further, or is this s serious competitor up against
 PNG and GIF?
 
 Is RunRev/LiveCode going to be able to import and export WebP
 in a future recension?
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Re: Sort question

2010-10-04 Thread DunbarX
This does a stable sort as required. One sort line.


on mouseUp
put yourData into temp
set the itemdel to /
sort lines of temp numeric by item 2 of each  char -2 to -1 of item 1 
of each
answer temp
end mouseUp

It cheats a bit in that it expects the data to be in a format it likes. But 
the multiple stable sort is a great tool.

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Re: [OT} is WebP going anywhere, and if it is how will LiveCode cope with it?

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all,

Am 04.10.2010 um 18:15 schrieb Ian Wood:

 WepP doesn't really offer anything over JPEG, I honestly can't see any reason 
 for it to take off.
 
 File sizes can be slightly smaller, but it has the same bit depth, *smaller* 
 pixel dimension limits, doesn't appear to include a progressive download spec 
 like JPEG, doesn't include an alpha layer for transparency like PNGs etc. etc.
 
 Ian
 
 On 4 Oct 2010, at 17:04, Richmond wrote:
 http://code.google.com/speed/webp/download.html
 
 Is this just Google trying to extend its imperialistic influence
 even further, or is this s serious competitor up against
 PNG and GIF?
 
 Is RunRev/LiveCode going to be able to import and export WebP
 in a future recension?

anyone remembers JPEG2000? Good quality and tiny file sizes.

If yes, when did you last encounter this file type?
OK, that may answer the question :-)


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Re: SelectedChunk

2010-10-04 Thread Warren Kuhl
Mike,

You have saved me lots of brainstorming.  This forum post should work for
what I am doing.  Thanks again!

Warren

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7t=3199

 Not the post I was thinking of, but some really useful stuff in that forum
 thread about whole word selections.

 On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com wrote:

  Mike,
 
  Thank you very much.  You have been most helpful!
  
  All the best!
  Warren
 
  On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Would have to program it, and now that i'm more awake, not sure you
 need
  to
   go through all the convoluted stuff I did.
  
   This is probably closer to what you can end up with.
   on mouseUp
 put word 2 of the selectedchunk into tChar
 put char 1 to tChar of field 1 into tTmp
 put the number of words in tTmp
   end mouseUp
  
   This will work with the exception that if your selection includes a
 space
   at
   the left the wordcount will be off by 1, so you'd have to test and
 decide
   how you want it to behave in that situation.  Will also have to test
 for
  a
   simple insertion point rather than a selection also and adjust
  accordingly.
  
  
   To force full word selections, I believe one of the Marks posted
  something
   a
   not too long ago that would do this... The gist of the script (If I
  recall
   correctly) was that when a selection is made, you check for word
  boundaries
   to the right and left and adjust the selection accordingly.
   Once you have your char positions you can set the selection.
  
   select char 5 to 12 of field yourfield
  
   I haven't actually tried the forced selection part.
  
   G'luck with all this. If I can locate the script I'm trying to
 remember,
   i'll post a link.
  
  
  
   On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Mike,
   
Thank you very much for this.  I really appreciate it.  Looks exactly
   like
what I was looking for.
   
You mentioned forcing only whole words.  Is this a command?  Or
  something
   I
would need to program?
   
Thanks again!
Warren
   
   
   
   
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   
 I'm positive this can be shortened, but as is should do what you
  want.
   It
 could be simplified greatly of course if you are forcing only whole
   word
 selections, but this will account for partial word selects, and
 also
   just
 an
 insertion point.
 *
 on mouseUp
   -- Determine if there is actually a selection of more than 1 char
   if word 2 of the selectedchunk - word 4 of the selectedchunk  0
  then
  put word 2 of the selectedchunk into tChar
   else
  put word 4 of the selectedchunk into tChar
   end if

   -- Determine if the selection is already on a word boundary.
   --if so determine which word the break is at.
   if char tChar of field 1 is space then
  put true into tCharMatch
  put char 1 to tChar of field 1 into tTmp
  putWord:   the number of words  in tTmp + 1 into tWord
   end if

   -- if a match hasn't been found yet, and we're not at the field
  start
   -- nudge 1 char left and check for word break. Repeat until top
 of
field
 or match
   repeat while tChar  1 and tCharMatch is empty
  subtract 1 from tChar
  if char tChar of field 1 is space then
 put true into tCharMatch
 put char 1 to tChar of field 1 into tTmp
 put Word:   the number of words in tTmp + 1 into tWord
  else if tChar = 0 then
 --if we reach the start of the field, must be the first
 word
 put Word: 1 into tWord
  end if
   end repeat

  answer information tWord
 end mouseUp*

 On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com
 
wrote:

  Is there an easy way to retrieve the word # of a field based on
 the
  SelectedChunk?  The SelectedChunk contains the start/end position
  of
   a
 word
  of a field.  Just am trying to determine which word without to
 much
  coding...if possible.
 
  Thanks for any help!
  Warren
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Re: INterfacing with Phidgets...

2010-10-04 Thread nicohirtt

Are you looking for an easy way of using Phidgets under Mac-OSX ?

I wrote a small LiveCode (RunRev, Revolution) external. Source-code is
provided as well as an example application (written with LiveCode, but in
French) to use Phidgets I/O boards for data-acquisition.

Look here fore explanation and download :

http://web.me.com/nicohirtt/applications/Blog/Entr%C3%A9es/2010/9/30_phidgets_for_Mac-OSX_with_Live-Code.html
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Cant set field property from Multi-line Msg Box

2010-10-04 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I should have done this originally; To clarify:

This one works:

repeat with k = 15 to 69
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of flds on cd k
   set the DontWrap of fld i of cd k to true
   end repeat
end repeat
beep

This one doesn't:

repeat with k = 15 to 69
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of flds on cd k
   set the TabOnReturn of fld i of cd k to true
   end repeat
end repeat
beep

Joe Lewis Wilkins



On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:20 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 there are no  property names with spaces.
 
 sqb
 
 On 2 October 2010 17:10, Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Sorry, but I  said TAB on Return, which IS a field property.
 
 Joe Wilkins
 
 On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 
 Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
 
 While we're talking about bugs, I found that you cannot change
 the field property TAB on Return from the multi line msg box.
 
 That's because there is no property called Tab in Return.
 
 By default, the Rev Property Inspector hides the English-like names
 used in the language and instead shows what is presumably an
 Even-More-English-Like label.  The problem is that there is then no direct
 way to know the name of the property you're setting.
 
 In this case the actual property name is autoTab.
 
 
 The first thing I tell my clients to do when they begin learning Rev is:
 
 1. Go to Preferences
 2. In the section with the heading Property labels are:, click the
  option labeled Name of LiveTalk Property.
 
 Once that's done the Inspector provides reinforcement of the tokens
 you'll have to learn for scripting anyway.
 
 And without that, as you've found it just raises the learning curve.
 
 --
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 Fourth World
 LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com
 LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv
 
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Re: Cant set field property from Multi-line Msg Box

2010-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Joe,

Am 03.10.2010 um 01:07 schrieb Joe Lewis Wilkins:

 I should have done this originally; To clarify:
 
 This one works:
 
 repeat with k = 15 to 69
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of flds on cd k
   set the DontWrap of fld i of cd k to true
   end repeat
 end repeat
 beep
 
 This one doesn't:
 
 repeat with k = 15 to 69
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of flds on cd k
   set the TabOnReturn of fld i of cd k to true
   end repeat
 end repeat
 beep

This does work! But you did not exspect how it worked!
Check all these fields and you will find their custom property named 
TabOnReturn is set to true! :-D

You might want to set the autotab in your loop ;-)
A fact that Richard already mentioned below.

 Joe Lewis Wilkins
 
 
 On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:20 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 
 there are no  property names with spaces.
 
 sqb
 
 On 2 October 2010 17:10, Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Sorry, but I  said TAB on Return, which IS a field property.
 
 Joe Wilkins
 
 On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 
 Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
 
 ...
 In this case the actual property name is autoTab.

!

 The first thing I tell my clients to do when they begin learning Rev is:
 
 1. Go to Preferences
 2. In the section with the heading Property labels are:, click the
 option labeled Name of LiveTalk Property.
 
 Once that's done the Inspector provides reinforcement of the tokens
 you'll have to learn for scripting anyway.
 
 And without that, as you've found it just raises the learning curve.
 
 --
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com
 LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv

Best

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Re: Drag drop reordering of a DataGrid form

2010-10-04 Thread Peter Haworth
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I don't see any code for  
handling drag/drop in the default datagrid behavior script I got when  
I installed LiveCode 4.5


Pete Haworth

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wrote:



Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 09:40:47 -0400
From: Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
Subject: Re: Drag  drop reordering of a DataGrid form
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID:
aanlktiknk=kzhhcl5bbtpdecy1dpaexe37tww=r7q...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:32 AM, zryip theSlug  
zryip.thes...@gmail.comwrote:



Just to clarify, this is a change in the datagrid library itself not
in the LiveCode engine.
I have tried this by using the revdatagridlibrary stack from the
LiveCode 4.5 into my version of Revolution 4.5 dp2 and now I have to
set the dragAction to make the reorder perform.



In the dgDragMove handler update the code that sets the dragAction  
to this:


## Make sure data grid control will accept drop
if the dragSource contains the long ID of me and (the mouseControl  
is not
empty and the long id of the mouseControl contains the long ID of  
me) then

  set the dragAction to move
end if

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Performance issues, perhaps Windows 7 related

2010-10-04 Thread David Beck


Hello,

I have had two clients report serious performance problems with a 
LiveCode standalone application on Windows 7, 32-bit machines. Dialogs 
and windows take several minutes to open, when usually they take only 
seconds. The same standalone (with the same data) works fine on other 
machines. I have never encountered this issue before, and since these 
two cases where both on Windows 7 I wonder if the problem is related to 
Windows 7.


Has anybody else experiences this issue or have any ideas about what 
could be the cause?


Thanks very much!

David Beck
Rotunda Software
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Re: Datagrid option menu initialisation

2010-10-04 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Trevor, that works great.  Follow up question for you.  I have  
a datagrid table with two option menu columns in it.  It's OK to  
initialise the first one per your reply but the contents of the second  
one need to be set differently depending on the currently selected  
value in the first option menu.  Any recommendations as to how to do  
that?


Pete Haworth

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wrote:



Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 09:42:59 -0400
From: Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
Subject: Re: Datagrid option menu initialisation
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID:
aanlktimob-tivaybneta-qqdoawv-ahkyoh0vec8f...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth  
p...@mollysrevenge.comwrote:



I have defined an option menu in a datagrid column whose contents are
created by reading data from an SQLite database - the contents will  
be the
same for each instance of the option menu and should be loaded when  
the card
containing the datagrid is opened.  Where should I put the code to  
create

the option menu contents?



In the card that contains the data grid :-)

In the preopencard or openCard message query the database, update  
the menu
button text in the data grid template and then load the data grid.  
Since the
template has the updated menu text all instances of your column will  
contain

the updated menu text.

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Re: Performance issues, perhaps Windows 7 related

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Wieder
David-

Monday, October 4, 2010, 10:18:03 AM, you wrote:

 Has anybody else experiences this issue or have any ideas about what
 could be the cause?

Try upgrading the Win7 video drivers (!)

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
Jeff Reynolds j...@siphonophore.com wrote:

 works fine on safari 5.0.2 on 10.5.8, so not 5.0.2 by itself seems to
 be a problem. i can try 5.0.2/10.6.4 late today for you.

thank you -- but don't install 10.6.4 expressly, though!
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 BTW methinks the new FLASH 10.x stuff is crashing the current Safari version
 - I finally switched to the latest WEBKIT browser daily build  (the latest
 beta of Safari, really):

webkit is the engine under the Safari hood ;-)
it is already installed on my Mac, I tested it for some new html 5
things...

I downloaded the latest night build -- and it crashed gracefully ;-
[another bug report to Apple!]
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread Medard
Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

 but I'm wondering:  are you setting the cursor there?

as far as I can see, nope...

glad to see that I am not the only one having problems with 10.6.4
-- I must say that it is the first problem I encountered with this
System version!

And MacFixIt said nothing about that ;-
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Re: ANN: A true scrolling canvas demo

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Roger. 

This could be extremely useful for a project I have been contemplating for some 
time. I wanted to make a conference scheduling app complete with visual maps of 
buildings and rooms and such. The maps would be interactive, so that I could 
click on a room and get the record of that room, such as the schedule and 
vacancy status. 

If you think this would be possible, I would be willing to donate some money 
toward your development of the object. Let me know if you think what I am 
trying to do is possible with your Scrolling Group object. 

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Roger Guay wrote:

 Nice job, Claudi! Thanks for sharing it.
 
 Cheers, Roger 
 
 On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:32 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
 
 Message: 9
 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:30:34 +0200
 From: Claudi Cornaz claud...@fiberworld.nl
 Subject: ANN: A true scrolling canvas demo
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Message-ID: 909e5dfd-538f-477f-ad9e-b9f854655...@fiberworld.nl
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am glad to anounce the ccScroller group.
 
 After many years, on and off, trying to get it to work right, I finaly  
 succeeded in creating a true scrolling canvas like group.
 
 I managed to get something to work before but now I found a simple and  
 elegant solution.
 
 You can drag objects around in the group and the canvas will always  
 adept to the placement of the objects.
 It grows and shrinks as neccesary, in the expected and sane way.
 
 The final piece I needed was mentioned by Richard quiete a few weeks  
 ago, the boundingRect.
 The boundingRect alone isn't sufficient but it turned out to be a  
 crucial extra piece I needed to acomplish this canvas group.
 
 I tryed to uploaded it to revOnLine but after I logged out I couldn't  
 log in anymore.
 Apparently the password they send me this afternoon is wrong now. I  
 don't know.
 So I have no idea if the upload went correctly because I can't find it  
 nowhere anymore. Revonline seems a bit flaky at the moment.
 I will try again later.
 
 Probably the easyest way to get the stack is to execute the following  
 in the messagebox:
 
 go stack URL http://www.claudi.on-rev.com/livecode/ccScroller_demo.rev;
 and check it out.
 
 I hope (some of) you find it usefull
 
 All the best
  Claudi
 
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Articles about Revolution/LC

2010-10-04 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi all,

I've not been doing much in the way of programming for the past two years, but 
am currently working on an ADA Evaluator™ using 4.0. Anyone who owns property 
with buildings may have encountered problems with ADA compliance. It is 
ubiquitous. I'm hoping to ease their potential litigation dilemmas through my 
program. Upshot: I'm going to write some more articles for MacInstruct updating 
the current status and my somewhat newly acquired knowledge about how to use 
it. 

I thought it would be a good idea to expose the earlier articles I wrote to the 
newly expanded RR/LC user base, most of whom have never read them. So, those of 
you who have not been exposed to my writings about Revolution should go to: 
http://www.macinstruct.com/codemojo In all likelihood it will be another 
month before any new ones regarding RR/LC appear, since I have yet to upgrade 
to 4.5 LC. Cash problems. (smile)

Any questions please address them to me directly.
 
Joe Lewis Wilkins
Architect  Director of Product Development for GSI
www.glsysinc.com






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Re: Performance issues, perhaps Windows 7 related

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 12:18 PM, David Beck wrote:


Hello,

I have had two clients report serious performance problems with a
LiveCode standalone application on Windows 7, 32-bit machines. Dialogs
and windows take several minutes to open, when usually they take only
seconds. The same standalone (with the same data) works fine on other
machines. I have never encountered this issue before, and since these
two cases where both on Windows 7 I wonder if the problem is related to
Windows 7.

Has anybody else experiences this issue or have any ideas about what
could be the cause?


I don't know the cause, but I also have a client who reports that on 
Win7 nothing happens when he clicks either of two buttons that call 
ask file or answer file dialogs. Given what you said, I wonder if 
nothing happens really means nothing happens for a long time until I 
get bored and quit.


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 1:19 PM, Medard wrote:


glad to see that I am not the only one having problems with 10.6.4
-- I must say that it is the first problem I encountered with this
System version!


I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup, 
requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it 
started after installing the 10.6.4 update.


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Re: Datagrid Default Column Behavior

2010-10-04 Thread Peter Haworth
I guess I'm not understanding this correctly.  Here's what I did,  
assuming the column with the option menu in it is named OptionColumn


On the Datagrid Templates card, I see a button named OptionColumn  
Behavior.  I deleted all the lines from the script for that button  
then hit Apply.  Then I opened the card containing my datagrid but  
still my default column script is only executed for columns that have  
not been customised.


Any ideas?


Pete Haworth

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wrote:



Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 09:45:02 -0400
From: Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
Subject: Re: Datagrid Default Column Behavior
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Peter Haworth  
p...@mollysrevenge.comwrote:


What is the correct way to set the default column behavior of a  
datagrid so
that the script is entered for columns which have been customised  
to contain

option menus?

I have set the default column behavior property for the datagrid  
but suing
debug shows that the script is only executed for columns that hve  
not been

customised in some way.



When you create a custom column the behavior script of the column  
template
is assigned to the behavior that is created alongside the column  
template.
The default column behavior only applies to column templates that do  
not
have a behavior assigned. Just set the behavior of your new column  
template

to empty and then it will inherit the default behavior.

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Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hello all,

Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
the Franklin 3D website:

Windows:

http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_liv_11_win.exe

Mac OS X:

http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_rev_11_mac.dmg

So far, playback has worked just fine - except on my own favorite XP Pro
machine. If you are interested in this product, help us make it great by
downloading and giving it a try. There are currently two simple examples
included.

Installation can be a two step process:

1) Download and run the installer, like you expect
2) Navigate to the Paradigma Software directory where you'll find an
install.rev stack. Open and run it. This points your install of LiveCode to
the directory.
3) Shut down and restart LiveCode.
4) Open up the Examples stack. If you get a code error, it should be fine -
its protesting a lack of serial code.

Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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[OT] Non-English voices on Mac VoiceOver

2010-10-04 Thread Devin Asay
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I seem to remember that there are folks here 
who have dealt with usability and visual impairment issues. We have a potential 
need to support visually-impaired, non-English speakers in our Mac labs 
(running 10.6) with screen reading technology. Does anyone know good sources 
for non-English synthesized voices, as well as guidance in using them?

TIA,

Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: [OT] Non-English voices on Mac VoiceOver

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Devin,

Search and download eSpeak. Works very nicely. Here's an example:

/Users/Mark/Downloads/espeak-1.40.02/speak -vnl hallo, hoe gaat het?

Just read the docs that are included with the software.

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KvK: 50277553

Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce 
Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No 
additional software needed.

On 4 okt 2010, at 22:16, Devin Asay wrote:

 Sorry for the off-topic post, but I seem to remember that there are folks 
 here who have dealt with usability and visual impairment issues. We have a 
 potential need to support visually-impaired, non-English speakers in our Mac 
 labs (running 10.6) with screen reading technology. Does anyone know good 
 sources for non-English synthesized voices, as well as guidance in using them?
 
 TIA,
 
 Devin

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Re: INterfacing with Phidgets...

2010-10-04 Thread Monte Goulding
ooo, I want to do some temperature data logging and charting to show the 
temperature inside and outside my house. This looks way cheaper and easier than 
anything else I've seen. I'm a passive solar design geek too ;-)

Cheers

Monte

On 02/10/2010, at 12:33 AM, nicohirtt wrote:

 
 Are you looking for an easy way of using Phidgets under Mac-OSX ?
 
 I wrote a small LiveCode (RunRev, Revolution) external. Source-code is
 provided as well as an example application (written with LiveCode, but in
 French) to use Phidgets I/O boards for data-acquisition.
 
 Look here fore explanation and download :
 
 http://web.me.com/nicohirtt/applications/Blog/Entr%C3%A9es/2010/9/30_phidgets_for_Mac-OSX_with_Live-Code.html
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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hiya. 

First time I opened the demo stack (I had forgotten to quit LiveCode) LiveCode 
crashed to desktop. First time I clicked Initialize in the demo stack, in 
Source Sharing Buffers, nothing came out and I got Error generating audio 
source. in the log field. After stopping and initializing a second time all 
audio seemed to play fine. 

Very exciting btw. 

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
 the Franklin 3D website:
 
 Windows:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_liv_11_win.exe
 
 Mac OS X:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_rev_11_mac.dmg
 
 So far, playback has worked just fine - except on my own favorite XP Pro
 machine. If you are interested in this product, help us make it great by
 downloading and giving it a try. There are currently two simple examples
 included.
 
 Installation can be a two step process:
 
 1) Download and run the installer, like you expect
 2) Navigate to the Paradigma Software directory where you'll find an
 install.rev stack. Open and run it. This points your install of LiveCode to
 the directory.
 3) Shut down and restart LiveCode.
 4) Open up the Examples stack. If you get a code error, it should be fine -
 its protesting a lack of serial code.
 
 Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
 talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
 multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Lynn Fredricks
 President
 Paradigma Software
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com
 
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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Also, after switching back to Simple static sound and playing that, I went back 
to Sources Sharing Buffers and the same thing happened. First initialization 
failed to produce and sound and the second click on the play button produced an 
error. 

After enabling Logging (for debugging) I cannot get any sound to come out in 
Sources Sharing Buffers, although Simple Static Sound seems to still work fine. 

Hope this helps. 

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
 the Franklin 3D website:
 
 Windows:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_liv_11_win.exe
 
 Mac OS X:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_rev_11_mac.dmg
 
 So far, playback has worked just fine - except on my own favorite XP Pro
 machine. If you are interested in this product, help us make it great by
 downloading and giving it a try. There are currently two simple examples
 included.
 
 Installation can be a two step process:
 
 1) Download and run the installer, like you expect
 2) Navigate to the Paradigma Software directory where you'll find an
 install.rev stack. Open and run it. This points your install of LiveCode to
 the directory.
 3) Shut down and restart LiveCode.
 4) Open up the Examples stack. If you get a code error, it should be fine -
 its protesting a lack of serial code.
 
 Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
 talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
 multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Lynn Fredricks
 President
 Paradigma Software
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com
 
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LiveCode Application Error upon quitting

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi all. 

Anyone else getting an Application Unexpectedly Quit when quitting LiveCode? 
Happens to me every time. I am running 10.6.4 on a Macbook Pro, the most recent 
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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/4/10 11:50 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Hiya. 
 
 First time I opened the demo stack (I had forgotten to quit LiveCode) LiveCode
 crashed to desktop. First time I clicked Initialize in the demo stack, in
 Source Sharing Buffers, nothing came out and I got Error generating audio
 source. in the log field. After stopping and initializing a second time all
 audio seemed to play fine.
 
 Very exciting btw.

Hi Bob,

Guys ask if this was MAC or WIN ?

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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Sorry, Mac. I thought I had said that, but in reality I put that in another 
email I never sent. DOH!

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

 On 10/4/10 11:50 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 Hiya. 
 
 First time I opened the demo stack (I had forgotten to quit LiveCode) 
 LiveCode
 crashed to desktop. First time I clicked Initialize in the demo stack, in
 Source Sharing Buffers, nothing came out and I got Error generating audio
 source. in the log field. After stopping and initializing a second time all
 audio seemed to play fine.
 
 Very exciting btw.
 
 Hi Bob,
 
 Guys ask if this was MAC or WIN ?
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 
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 VP Engineering and New Technology
 Paradigma Software, Inc
 
 Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com
 
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Re: LiveCode Application Error upon quitting

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Hi all.

Anyone else getting an Application Unexpectedly Quit when quitting
LiveCode? Happens to me every time. I am running 10.6.4 on a Macbook
Pro, the most recent one.


No, not here. But right now I'm suspecting 10.6.4 for every single crash 
I get anywhere these days. I'm seeing reports of problems with that 
update everywhere.


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Re: Performance issues, perhaps Windows 7 related

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 12:39 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

David-

Monday, October 4, 2010, 10:18:03 AM, you wrote:


Has anybody else experiences this issue or have any ideas about what
could be the cause?


Try upgrading the Win7 video drivers (!)



Wow, who woulda thought? Video driver issues cause file dialog problems? 
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Re: unlocked field messages?

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 9:22 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

I see in the message watcher that both a mouseDown and a
mouseDoubleDown message are sent to an unlocked field when one clicks in 
them. Yet I
cannot trap these messages. Anyone know why?

There is activity there, of course. For example, a double click selects the
clicked word, and a triple click selects the entire line. These messages
would be useful, I think, if one could only trap them.

I was surprised, coming from HC, where such messages are simply not sent at
all, that the possibility existed.


I wonder if that's the IDE inserting messages (I haven't looked to 
check, so it's speculation.) The engine doesn't send most 
mouseclick-related messages to an unlocked field. Instead, you get 
selectionChanged messages.


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Re: Drag drop reordering of a DataGrid form

2010-10-04 Thread Monte Goulding
 In the dgDragMove handler update the code that sets the dragAction to this:
 
 ## Make sure data grid control will accept drop
 if the dragSource contains the long ID of me and (the mouseControl is not
 empty and the long id of the mouseControl contains the long ID of me) then
   set the dragAction to move
 end if


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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Robert Mann

First time I clicked Initialize in the demo stack, in 
 Source Sharing Buffers, nothing came out and I got Error generating
 audio 
 source. in the log field. After stopping and initializing a second time
 all 
 audio seemed to play fine. 

Same for me here, so works fine on second go and forever!
Looking forward to hearing what audio functions you'll be covering.
Exiting! thanks

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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread René Micout
Hello from Paris,
Mac OS 10.6.4
LiveCode 4.5
All work fine for me...
René

Le 4 oct. 2010 à 22:08, Lynn Fredricks a écrit :

 Hello all,
 
 Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
 the Franklin 3D website:
 
 Windows:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_liv_11_win.exe
 
 Mac OS X:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_rev_11_mac.dmg
 
 So far, playback has worked just fine - except on my own favorite XP Pro
 machine. If you are interested in this product, help us make it great by
 downloading and giving it a try. There are currently two simple examples
 included.
 
 Installation can be a two step process:
 
 1) Download and run the installer, like you expect
 2) Navigate to the Paradigma Software directory where you'll find an
 install.rev stack. Open and run it. This points your install of LiveCode to
 the directory.
 3) Shut down and restart LiveCode.
 4) Open up the Examples stack. If you get a code error, it should be fine -
 its protesting a lack of serial code.
 
 Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
 talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
 multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Lynn Fredricks
 President
 Paradigma Software
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com
 
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Re: unlocked field messages?

2010-10-04 Thread DunbarX
Hey, Jacques.

Thanks. I knew that.

The selectionChanged message can do the same job. This all came up when 
my son wanted to know why he couldn't click somehow to select a full 
sentence, as opposed to the usual word (double-click) or whole line (triple 
click). 
When doing his homework, he hates having to drag from one char to another, 
sometimes down virtual lines, having to use reasonable precision. So I wrote 
a gadget to do just that, select a sentence.

You gotta love Re, er, LiveCode.

Craig
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Re: LiveCode Application Error upon quitting

2010-10-04 Thread Paul Looney

Bob, Jaque,
I've had Quit errors in the IDE from version 3.5 onward; OS X version  
10.4.11 onward - through 10.6.4.

The problem line is:

wait 0 seconds

which we use many times elsewhere, with no problem.
This quitting doesn't seem to be a problem in the standalone.
Paul Looney

On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:23 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On 10/4/10 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Hi all.

Anyone else getting an Application Unexpectedly Quit when quitting
LiveCode? Happens to me every time. I am running 10.6.4 on a Macbook
Pro, the most recent one.


No, not here. But right now I'm suspecting 10.6.4 for every single  
crash I get anywhere these days. I'm seeing reports of problems  
with that update everywhere.


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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
Lynn,

Really amazing. Even if i got exactly the same beta-glichies exposed by Bob, 
Franklin Audio seems very promising (OS X 10.6.4 MBP i7 15). Will it be way to 
run it from within the webPlugin ?

Best Regards,

Pierre


Le 4 oct. 2010 à 22:50, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

 Hiya. 
 
 First time I opened the demo stack (I had forgotten to quit LiveCode) 
 LiveCode crashed to desktop. First time I clicked Initialize in the demo 
 stack, in Source Sharing Buffers, nothing came out and I got Error 
 generating audio source. in the log field. After stopping and initializing a 
 second time all audio seemed to play fine. 
 
 Very exciting btw. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
 the Franklin 3D website:
 
 Windows:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_liv_11_win.exe
 
 Mac OS X:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_rev_11_mac.dmg
 
 So far, playback has worked just fine - except on my own favorite XP Pro
 machine. If you are interested in this product, help us make it great by
 downloading and giving it a try. There are currently two simple examples
 included.
 
 Installation can be a two step process:
 
 1) Download and run the installer, like you expect
 2) Navigate to the Paradigma Software directory where you'll find an
 install.rev stack. Open and run it. This points your install of LiveCode to
 the directory.
 3) Shut down and restart LiveCode.
 4) Open up the Examples stack. If you get a code error, it should be fine -
 its protesting a lack of serial code.
 
 Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
 talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
 multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Lynn Fredricks
 President
 Paradigma Software
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com
 
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Fwd: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
LiveCode 4.5.0 1080

Début du message réexpédié :

 De : Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr
 Date : 5 octobre 2010 01:02:21 HAEC
 À : How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Cc : Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr
 Objet : Rép : Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode
 
 Lynn,
 
 Really amazing. Even if i got exactly the same beta-glichies exposed by Bob, 
 Franklin Audio seems very promising (OS X 10.6.4 MBP i7 15). Will it be way 
 to run it from within the webPlugin ?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Pierre
 
 
 Le 4 oct. 2010 à 22:50, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
 
 Hiya. 
 
 First time I opened the demo stack (I had forgotten to quit LiveCode) 
 LiveCode crashed to desktop. First time I clicked Initialize in the demo 
 stack, in Source Sharing Buffers, nothing came out and I got Error 
 generating audio source. in the log field. After stopping and initializing 
 a second time all audio seemed to play fine. 
 
 Very exciting btw. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
 the Franklin 3D website:
 
 Windows:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_liv_11_win.exe
 
 Mac OS X:
 
 http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_rev_11_mac.dmg
 
 So far, playback has worked just fine - except on my own favorite XP Pro
 machine. If you are interested in this product, help us make it great by
 downloading and giving it a try. There are currently two simple examples
 included.
 
 Installation can be a two step process:
 
 1) Download and run the installer, like you expect
 2) Navigate to the Paradigma Software directory where you'll find an
 install.rev stack. Open and run it. This points your install of LiveCode to
 the directory.
 3) Shut down and restart LiveCode.
 4) Open up the Examples stack. If you get a code error, it should be fine -
 its protesting a lack of serial code.
 
 Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
 talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
 multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Lynn Fredricks
 President
 Paradigma Software
 http://www.paradigmasoft.com
 
 Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server 
 
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Re: Performance issues, perhaps Windows 7 related

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque-

Monday, October 4, 2010, 2:27:08 PM, you wrote:

 Wow, who woulda thought? Video driver issues cause file dialog problems?
 I believe you, but I can't imagine why that would be. Any idea?

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Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread Peter Haworth
I had imported 3 or 4 image libraries into Revolution 4.0.  They don't  
show up in LiveCode 4.5.  I don't have the external sources of the  
image files on my computer - any ideas on how I can get them back?


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Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I have a mail 
server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default port is open. I 
have no idea which app would have that port open!

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Re: Performance issues, perhaps Windows 7 related

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 6:57 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Monday, October 4, 2010, 2:27:08 PM, you wrote:


Wow, who woulda thought? Video driver issues cause file dialog problems?
I believe you, but I can't imagine why that would be. Any idea?


Absolutely none. Just passing on what I've been told.



I wrote it down in my Weird Tales and Strange Associations diary. Thanks 
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Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 7:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

I had imported 3 or 4 image libraries into Revolution 4.0.  They don't
show up in LiveCode 4.5. I don't have the external sources of the image
files on my computer - any ideas on how I can get them back?


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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Neal Campbell
Hi Bob

No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer and I am sure
you will find something that works for you.
Best wishes.
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Abroham Neal Software
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On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I have a
 mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default port is
 open. I have no idea which app would have that port open!

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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab)

Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app opened them. 

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

 Hi Bob
 
 No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer and I am sure
 you will find something that works for you.
 Best wishes.
 Neal Campbell
 Abroham Neal Software
 www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
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 Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I have a
 mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default port is
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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Neal Campbell
Many port sniffers will tell you that, google and see if you can find one!

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On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab)

 Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app opened
 them.

 Bob


 On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

  Hi Bob
 
  No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer and I am
 sure
  you will find something that works for you.
  Best wishes.
  Neal Campbell
  Abroham Neal Software
  www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
  (540) 645 5394
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
  Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I have
 a
  mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default port is
  open. I have no idea which app would have that port open!
 
  Bob
 
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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
check out WIRESHARK http://www.wireshark.org/download.html for network
investigations.

On 4 October 2010 21:43, Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many port sniffers will tell you that, google and see if you can find one!

 Neal Campbell
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 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

  sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab)
 
  Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app opened
  them.
 
  Bob
 
 
  On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
 
   Hi Bob
  
   No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer and I am
  sure
   you will find something that works for you.
   Best wishes.
   Neal Campbell
   Abroham Neal Software
   www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
   (540) 645 5394
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
  
   Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I
 have
  a
   mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default port
 is
   open. I have no idea which app would have that port open!
  
   Bob
  
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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Bob,

Use the following magic incantation on the terminal:

  lsof -Pnl +M -i4

:-D hope this helps!



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 mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default port is
 open. I have no idea which app would have that port open!

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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Dar Scott

On OS X:

sudo lsof -i -P

The command to run the process is in the first column and the process  
ID is in the second.


I tried netstat, but that did not work

Dar

On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:


sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab)

Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app  
opened them.


Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:


Hi Bob

No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer and  
I am sure

you will find something that works for you.
Best wishes.
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394






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Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port?  
I have a
mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the default  
port is

open. I have no idea which app would have that port open!

Bob

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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
I don't think you need sudo... I did my lsof line without it...

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote:

 On OS X:

 sudo lsof -i -P

 The command to run the process is in the first column and the process ID is
 in the second.

 I tried netstat, but that did not work

 Dar


 On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

  sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab)

 Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app opened
 them.

 Bob


 On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

  Hi Bob

 No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer and I am
 sure
 you will find something that works for you.
 Best wishes.
 Neal Campbell
 Abroham Neal Software
 www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
 (540) 645 5394






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  Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I have
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Re: Which app has which ports

2010-10-04 Thread Dar Scott

What about processes run by vermin, or some other user, or the root?

On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:


I don't think you need sudo... I did my lsof line without it...

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote:


On OS X:

sudo lsof -i -P

The command to run the process is in the first column and the  
process ID is

in the second.

I tried netstat, but that did not work

Dar


On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

 sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab)


Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app  
opened

them.

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

 Hi Bob


No idea which platform you are using but google port sniffer  
and I am

sure
you will find something that works for you.
Best wishes.
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394






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port? I have

a
mail server that wants to run LDAP but can't because the  
default port is

open. I have no idea which app would have that port open!

Bob

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Re: LiveCode Application Error upon quitting

2010-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/4/10 5:41 PM, Paul Looney wrote:

Bob, Jaque,
I've had Quit errors in the IDE from version 3.5 onward; OS X version
10.4.11 onward - through 10.6.4.
The problem line is:

wait 0 seconds

which we use many times elsewhere, with no problem.


Just curious, why would you wait for zero?

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Re: LiveCode Application Error upon quitting

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Davis

 On 10/4/10 9:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 10/4/10 5:41 PM, Paul Looney wrote:

Bob, Jaque,
I've had Quit errors in the IDE from version 3.5 onward; OS X version
10.4.11 onward - through 10.6.4.
The problem line is:

wait 0 seconds

which we use many times elsewhere, with no problem.


Just curious, why would you wait for zero?


What - would you prefer to wait longer?
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Re: LiveCode Application Error upon quitting

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Phil-

Monday, October 4, 2010, 9:40:00 PM, you wrote:

   On 10/4/10 9:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 On 10/4/10 5:41 PM, Paul Looney wrote:

 The problem line is:

 wait 0 seconds

 which we use many times elsewhere, with no problem.

 Just curious, why would you wait for zero?

 What - would you prefer to wait longer?

Some of us are impatient.

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Re: LiveCode Application Error upon quitting

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Davis

 On 10/4/10 9:53 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Phil-

Monday, October 4, 2010, 9:40:00 PM, you wrote:


   On 10/4/10 9:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 10/4/10 5:41 PM, Paul Looney wrote:

The problem line is:
wait 0 seconds
which we use many times elsewhere, with no problem.

Just curious, why would you wait for zero?

What - would you prefer to wait longer?

Some of us are impatient.

Right - like Paul. ;-)  Hey, it's his code... no need to dwell on the fact that 
I steered him there.


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