RE: linux question

[Damien Girard]

Hi,

I have took a look at the highpoint-tech.com website, and the driver that they 
provide does not seems old, they claim that they support linux kernel up to 
2.6.31.

But making it working it seems to be an harder things :)

By the way, on Debian before everything you will need to install the 
meta-package "build-essential" and the package "linux-kernel-headers". (apt-get 
install ...)

Then go to the subfolder (of the archive):
$ cd rr268x-linux-src-v1.xx/product/rr2680/linux/
$ make
And as root
# make install

And to load the driver (as root):
# modprobe rr2680

To launch the driver at boot time, on Debian append the following line to the 
file "/etc/modules":
rr2680

I hope that I gave you some clues about solving the problem ^^

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.

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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] De la part de Tim Selander
Envoyé : mardi 2 novembre 2010 03:38
À : How to use Revolution
Objet : OT: linux question


A question to the Linux users here I'm trying to set up a 16 
drive Debian NAS to hold our production company's footage 
archive. Bought a HighPoint 2680 SATA card because they claimed 
Debian compatibility. But their stock drivers are so old, I can't 
even find the distribution they match. They also have the source 
code so you can compile a new kernel to support the card. I 
tried, but being a Linux newbie, failed in all attempts. Can't 
even get the 'tree' downloaded, whatever that is!

If, say, I could pay one of you to compile the kernel/driver for 
me, is there a way you can do that and then send it to me for an 
easy install here? No idea if kernel files can just be swapped 
out...  I would make space on my ftp server for you to upload the 
finished file(s) too.

Any chance this would work?

Thanks,

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
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[ANN] NativeDoc 1.6 update

[Damien Girard]

Dear LiveCode users,

I am pleased to announce the release of NativeDoc 1.6.

This update is mainly about the templates, Javascript scripts has been
optimized in order to provide the best user experiences with NativeDoc
generated website.

Note: NativeDoc 1.6 is a free update.


-> NativeDoc 1.6 main changelog

- Fixed the bug with \seealso of a setprop/getprop
- Seealso handlers that does not exists are not displayed anymore in the
documentation
- Added a link to open directly the NativeDoc API inside the help center
- Fixed the bug that made NativeDoc not able to use stacks located in a
folder name that contained an "of" or an "id".
- New about screen :)
- NativeDoc now can be uninstalled from the "About" screen. (Button
"Uninstall")
- Templates are now based on JSTree 0.9.9a and jQuery 1.4.3. Make
documentation a bit smaller and faster.
- The default template is now the template without iFrame. This template is
working better with any browser.
- Templates are now looking far better on Linux.
- Internet Explorer 6 does not anymore use the Javascript tree, instead a
list is displayed.
- - If you must need the javascript tree with IE 6, use NativeDoc 1.5.1.

-> How to get NativeDoc 1.6 ?

Simply go to http://www.nativesoft.fr/download, or in RevOnline "NativeDoc
Web Installer".
Download the NativeDoc Web Installer stack, launch it, install NativeDoc,
restart LiveCode then start using NativeDoc 1.6.


Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.


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[ANN] NativeGeometry 2.1 - New unlimited evaluation edition!

[Damien Girard]

Dear LiveCode user,

I am proud to announce the release of NativeGeometry 2.1, this new versions
brings major enhancement/bug fixes and the most important, a new evaluation
edition.

Note: NativeGeometry 2.1 is a free update.

-> Evaluation edition
NativeGeometry 2.1 Evaluation edition does not anymore limits the number of
objects to 3, you can now add an unlimited number of objects to
NativeGeometry.
Instead, there is nag screen that will appear in the standalones and inside
the LiveCode IDE.

This means that you can try fully NativeGeometry, notably you will be able
to play with the Automatic dependency solver ;), the API and more...

-> NativeGeometry 2.1 main changelog

- Tutorials are now included inside the help center. (Click "NativeGeometry
User Guide and Tutorials")
- NativeGeometry now can be uninstalled from the "About" screen. (Button
"Uninstall")
- Fixed a bug in the automatic dependency solver with graphic objects.
- Changing the icon of a button will not anymore produce an incorrect
autoresize.
- Fixed a bug that made NativeGeometry not able to open stack located in a
folder name that contained an "of" or an "id".
- Fixed few regressions over NativeSpeak 1.x Geometry Manager
- - Buttons with icons are now correctly resized.
- - Buttons with icons ignores now the minimal OS width.
- - Buttons with icons sizes are now correct, as margins were added.
- - If the icon of a button with textalign set to "center" is > to the text
width, the button takes now the width of the icon.
- And more...

-> How to get NativeGeometry 2.1 ?

Simply go to http://www.nativesoft.fr/download, or in RevOnline
"NativeGeometry Web Installer".
Download the NativeGeometry Web Installer stack, launch it, install
NativeGeometry, restart LiveCode then start using NativeGeometry 2.1.

-> And about the NativeDoc update ?

I am meeting some problems with Internet Explorer 6 and JSTree 1.0,
NativeDoc 1.6 is producing smaller and faster documentation but I cannot
release it until I fixed the IE 6 problem.

-> Any other news ?

The NativeSoft website has been updated too, and is more readable :)

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.


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RE: Geometry settings...

[Damien Girard]

Hi Dixie,

It is not possible easily with the LiveCode geometry manager. (I do not know
even how to do it).

But NativeGeometry, that is a geometry manager for LiveCode works like that,
all geometry relations are scripts and the GUI is just here to help you
working faster.

Sample:
Set the nGeometry of button "toto" to "set the bottom of me to the
bottomPadding of this stack; set the left of me to the rightPadding of
button 'titi'"
-> Resize the stack
-> Open the NativeGeometry geometry inspector, then you will see the script
that you have designed.

http://www.nativesoft.fr/nativegeometry

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.

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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] De la part de John Dixon
Envoyé : samedi 16 octobre 2010 00:39
À : use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Objet : RE: Geometry settings...



Hi Devin...

Thanks for the reply.. I have not explained what I want to do too well. What
I would like to be able to do is set the 'geometry' in the geometry pane
that are in the objects' inspector so, if I create a field by script, I
can also set its geometry in the geometry pane...

Is it now a little clearer than mud ?

Dixie



> On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:08 PM, John Dixon wrote:

> > Hi...
> > 
> > Is it possible to set the geometry of an object by script so that the
settings are then reflected in that objects' inspector ?
> > 
> > be well
> 
> Yes. There are many properties that can be set, like height, width,
rectangle, left, right, etc. Usually after you've set them by script you
have to force the property inspector to update itself before the new
settings are shown. For example, you could close and reopen the inspector,
or switch to another pane of the inspector then switch back.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Devin

> Devin Asay
> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
> Brigham Young University

 
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RE: getting the selected language

[Damien Girard]

It works on Win7 Scott.

But my code works also for Win NT 4.0, Win 95-98 and Linux :D (did not tried
your on Win98, seriously who still use it ?? lol)

Regards,

Damien

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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] De la part de Scott Rossi
Envoyé : jeudi 29 juillet 2010 20:39
À : Revolution Mail List
Objet : Re: getting the selected language


Recently, jim sims wrote:

> To get the selected language in OS X it seems that the following works
well:
> 
> put replaceText(shell("defaults read NSGlobalDomain
> AppleLanguages"),"(\s|\(|\))","") into theLanguagesList
> 
> 
> How does one get the same information on a Windows machine?


Jim, you can try the "language specs" stack on my site that retrieves
language info for Mac/Win systems:



I haven't tested on Win7, but assuming Win7 is a lot like Vista it should
work.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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RE: getting the selected language

[Damien Girard]

Hi,

In NativeSpeak 1.x, I wrote (with the help of Trevor) that function:

function dptGetLang
  -- Returns the language of the session of the user.
  -- This function will read the operation system configuration and will
return the current language used by the user.
  local theItemNo,theLangCode,theLangStrings
  local theVersion,theWinLangCodes
  local theUserLang = "en"
  
  if the platform is "MacOS" then
put replacetext(shell("defaults read NSGlobalDomain
AppleLanguages"),"(\s|\(|\)|" & quote & ")","") into theLangStrings
put char 1 to 2 of theLangStrings into theUserLang
  else if the platform is "Win32" then
-- http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365069.aspx
-- http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776286.aspx
--
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/intl/mui_Ge
tUILanguageInfo.asp
-- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/181604

## FIRST CHECK FOR MUI INSTALLS
if queryregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\MUI\Enable") is 1 then
  put queryregistry("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\MUI\CurLang") into theLangCode
end if

if theLangCode is empty then
  put word 2 of the systemversion into theVersion
  
  if word 1 of the systemversion is "Windows" then# 95/98/ME
put queryregistry("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control
Panel\desktop\ResourceLocale") into theLangCode
  else if theVersion >= 4 and theVersion < 5 then# NT
put queryregistry("HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control
Panel\International\Locale") into theLangCode
## THIS COULD FAIL IN WHICH CASE YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE RESOURCES OF
SOME INSTALLED DLL.
## VERY SILLY.edit script the
  else# XP/Vista
put queryregistry("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control
Panel\International\Locale") into theLangCode
  end if
end if

put word 1 to -1 of theLangCode into theLangCode ## Vista bug in version
up to 2.9 rc-2: trailing white space

put baseconvert(theLangCode,16,10) into theLangCode

## THE ORDER OF THIS LIST MATCHES THE ORDER OF theLangCodes
put
"za,al,fr,et,dz,bh,eg,iq,jo,kw,lb,ly,ma,om,qa,sa,sy,tn,ae,ye,am,in,az,az,ru,
es,by,ba,ba,fr,bg,es,hk,mo,sg,fr,ba,hr,cz,dk,af,mv,be,nl,au,be,ca,in,ie,ie,j
m,my,nz,ph,sg,za,tt,gb,us,zw,ee,fo,ph,fi,be,ca,fr,lu,mc,ch,nl,es,ge,at,de,li
,lu,ch,gr,gl,in,ng,il,in,hu,is,ng,id,ca,ca,ie,it,ch,jp,in,kz,kh,gt,rw,in,kr,
kg,la,lv,lt,de,lu,mk,bn,my,in,mt,nz,cl,in,ca,mn,cn,np,no,no,fr,in,af,ir,pl,b
r,pt,pt,in,bo,ec,pe,ro,ch,ru,fi,no,se,fi,no,se,fi,no,se,in,ba,ba,cs,cs,za,za
,lk,sk,si,ar,bo,cl,co,cr,do,ec,sv,gt,hn,mx,ni,pa,py,pe,pr,es,uy,ve,ke,fi,se,
se,sy,tj,dz,in,ru,in,th,cn,tr,tm,cn,ua,de,pk,uz,uz,vn,gb,sn,za,ru,cn,ng,za"
into theLangStrings
put
"1078,1052,1156,1118,5121,15361,3073,2049,11265,13313,12289,4097,6145,8193,1
6385,1025,10241,7169,14337,9217,1067,1101,2092,1068,1133,1069,1059,8218,5146
,1150,1026,1027,3076,5124,4100,1155,4122,1050,1029,1030,1164,1125,2067,1043,
3081,10249,4105,16393,6153,6153,8201,17417,5129,13321,18441,7177,11273,2057,
1033,12297,1061,1080,1124,1035,2060,3084,1036,5132,6156,4108,1122,1110,1079,
3079,1031,5127,4103,2055,1032,1135,1095,1128,1037,1081,1038,1039,1136,1057,2
141,1117,2108,1040,2064,1041,1099,1087,1107,1158,1159,,1042,1088,1108,10
62,1063,2094,1134,1071,2110,1086,1100,1082,1153,1146,1102,1148,1104,2128,112
1,1044,2068,1154,1096,1123,1065,1045,1046,2070,2070,1094,1131,2155,3179,1048
,1047,1049,9275,4155,5179,3131,1083,2107,8251,6203,7227,1103,26,6170,3098,20
74,1132,1074,1115,1051,1060,11274,16394,13322,9226,5130,7178,12298,17418,410
6,18442,2058,19466,6154,15370,10250,20490,3082,14346,8202,1089,2077,1053,105
3,1114,1064,2143,1097,1092,1098,1054,1105,1055,1090,1152,1058,1070,1056,2115
,1091,1066,1106,1160,1076,1157,1144,1130,1077" into theWinLangCodes -->
INTEGER VALUES OF HEX VALUES FROM
--
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/intl/nls_61
df.asp

set wholematches to true
put itemoffset(theLangCode, theWinLangCodes) into theItemNo
if theItemNo > 0 then
  put item theItemNo of theLangStrings into theUserLang
end if
  else
## LINUX
return char 1 to 2 of $LANG -- Easy Unix.
  end if
  
  return theUserLang 
end dptGetLang


Best,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.


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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] De la part de jim sims
Envoyé : jeudi 29 juillet 2010 19:10
À : How to use Revolution
Objet : getting the selected language



To get the selected language in OS X it seems that the following works well:

put replaceText(shell("defaults read NSGlobalDomain
AppleLanguages"),"(\s|\(|\))","") into theLanguagesList


How does one get the same information on a Windows machine?

sims

NativeGeometry 2.0.1 - The Geometry Manager replacement for Revolution

[Damien Girard]

Hi,

I have updated NativeGeometry to version 2.0.1, this versions greatly
improve the user experience, if you tried NativeGeometry 2.0 before, try
this one you will see the improvement!

Also, after user feedbacks, I have made more visible the NativeGeometry API,
because NativeGeometry is before anything a library, in the help center now
you can directly access to the API documentation. (Generated with NativeDoc
1.6 that will be released shortly too ;) )

In addition, a new property appear: set/get the nGeometry. This property
enable you to set the geometry of an object simply.

In NativeGeometry 2.0, you had to write:
put "set the left of me to the leftpadding of this stack;set the rRight of
me to the left of button id 1014 of this stack" into tArray["relations"]
set the NativeGeometry of button "myButton" to tArray

Now, with 2.0.1:
set the nGeometry of button "myButton" to "set the left of me to the
leftpadding of this stack;set the rRight of me to the left of button id 1014
of this stack"

So, dynamically you can faster update geometry relation, NativeGeometry will
take care of discovering dependencies and compiling the geometry relation.


If you have feedback about this version, questions or anything else, do not
hesitate to write me at "supp...@nativesoft.fr".

WARNING: NativeGeometry IDE does not works on Linux, there is a strange
problem with "the long id of the target"... The engine is running fine, but
I was not able to make the IDE working right. Will investigate.

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.
http://www.nativesoft.fr



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RE: My naming convention

[Damien Girard]

Hi,

I totally disagree with you, having a naming convention in an enterprise
helps to produce faster application, but I am talking here about real
application, not a funny stack that display few funny effects...

In my other life (a life without RunRev), I am working in a team of 6
developers, everybody is using my naming convention that I told before, and
the productivity gain is incredible, cause, it is not Revolution, it is C,
and I am working on application that have more than 15000 lines, that
communicate with multiple card, and that have dozen threads and hundred
messages.
So, imagine now if everybody do what they want with naming convention ?
> You get lost, nobody can reuse your work.

When I have to work on the file of a colleague, I simply open it, I saw that
he is calling few global with the "g", few statics with the "s" and I can
use few "t" variables. This took me 5 minutes to have in my head a map of
the source code file.. Productivity loss?

And the best things, with naming convention, in NetBeans IDE, I want a
global, I press "g" + Ctrl + Space and I have got all my global listed! Have
just to pick the one that need, no need to look around and find in what .h
file I placed my global..

So, what I wanted to say:
- Small program, utility, sure, no need convention
- Real program, without one, you are dead. (yes, cause your teammates killed
you :p)


My 2 cents (in euros too)

Damien
NativeSoft, France.

PS: Yes I saw the troll, but I am going in ^^


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Nugent Dixon
Envoyé : samedi 10 juillet 2010 19:45
À : use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Objet : RE: My naming convention


Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

Sorry to put the proverbial cat among the pigeons !

Wonderful ! I have never seen so many complex
naming conventions that I am sure you don't follow.

If you do, then it is for who ? If it is for you,
this means that your organizational solutions
prime upon your script development and production.
What a waste of grey matter !
If you spend more time wondering what you are
going to call your variables, than developing
your scripts, then you DO have a problem !

In 5 minutes, you can write a button script to
list out Variable and Field Names, to ensure that
you don't invent duplicate names.

Revolution scripting is not to be pondered upon.
Just write it, as it flows out of your brain.
Don't invent rules that you will not follow !

Naming conventions are personal. They are
mostly designed to help YOU, maintain and
modify YOUR scripts in the future, if you
ever NEED to return to them !

Forget naming conventions, and spend a little
time with comments. It beats naming conventions
every day. If anybody will ever read it except you !

If you ever have to return to your scripts
(and I doubt that you do this often), you
either recognize your coding, and your coding
knowledge, AND YOUR COMMENTS, and so you don't
need to invent a complex naming convention,
or else it is not your script, and HIS naming
convention is of no help whatsoever.
But by the saints, an intelligent comment is !!!

I spent years (with Hypercard) inventing a simple
and strict naming convention WHICH I MYSELF
RENAGUE ON EVERY DAY !

So - what is the point ?

My 2 cents (of a euro) !

- Francis

-"Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"




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RE: My naming convention

[Damien Girard]

Personnally I am using this naming convention:
- first letter in lowercase, then Uppercase for the first letter of each
word.

- tMyVariable -> Variable available in the handler
- sMyVariable -> Variable available in the script (local)
- gMyVariable -> Global variable (global)
- kMyVariable -> Constant (constant)
- cMyVariable -> Variable that contain custom properties
- pMyParameter -> Parameter

In C, I use the same naming convention, the difference is:
- Instead of Uppercase, I use "_" to separate words.

- t_my_variable -> Variable available in the handler
- s_my_variable -> Variable available in the file (static)
- g_my_variable -> Variable available in the application (extern)
- k_my_variable -> Constant
- p_my_paramater -> Parameter (you see the *, you are not dumb, no need of a
"pointer" prefix)

And for C++/C#, same as Revolution. This enable me to mix C/C++ and to see
quickly in what file I am located.

After, for objects, I have no convention, but usually in rev I define the
name of objects only in lowercase, in order to not mix with variables.

All my softwares are written like that, and it works ;) (more than 20 000
lignes software...) (I stolen this convention from a Rev user, but I do not
remember who lol, btw thanks to him ^^)

Also, I am using DoxyGen in C/C++, and NativeDoc in Rev, that's helping a
lot :p

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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] De la part de Richmond
Envoyé : samedi 10 juillet 2010 12:18
À : How to use Revolution
Objet : My naming convention


For what it is worth;

I always start a field's name with a lowercase 'f' - the rest in uppercase:

e.g. "fSTUFF"

so, similarly with other objects:

"gSTUFF" will be a group,

"ggSTUFF" will be a group containing subordinate groups,

"iSTUFF" is an image,

"pSTUFF" is (oddly enough) a graphic object

"bSTUFF" is a button

-

"vSTUFF" is a variable

"cSTUFF" is a constant

"sSTUFF" is a string

"aSTUFF" is an array

-

needless-to-say; I almost NEVER adhere to this convention . . .  :)



RunRev, having no intrinsic naming conventions, cheerfully allows one to
wander off rather tangentially if one is not very careful.



What I DO do is have a piece of paper on a clipboard on my lap where I write
down every object's name and what it is with a pencil.
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RE: Question about Native Geometry

[Damien Girard]

Hi Peter,

NativeGeometry does not modify the Revolution environment, so NativeGeometry
will not fix that IDE problem.

But if you develop your application using NativeGeometry, your application
will normally not meet this problem.

Best,

Damien

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Alcibiades
Envoyé : samedi 26 juin 2010 03:17
À : How to use Revolution
Objet : Question about Native Geometry


Rev on Linux has become pretty much unusable after buying a bigger screen 
with higher resolution, since unless you change the monitor to a lower 
resolution every time Rev starts up, the IDE is unreadably small.

Is it possible to use Native Geometry to fix this?

Peter
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RE: windows 7 64 bit and Rev: Any Problems

[Damien Girard]

Hi,

I did not experienced any problems with Windows Vista and 7 64bits,
NativeDoc has few long script and I did not experienced strange things.

Regards,

Damien
NativeSoft, France.


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Envoyé : lundi 21 juin 2010 18:17
À : Rev List
Objet : windows 7 64 bit and Rev: Any Problems


Hi all


I have been experiencing problems updating software over the internet.
The update fails unpredictably eventually completing when the code is
put in a try/catch construct. The only unusual thing about the set up
is that I am using Win7 64bit. Has anyone else, using the 64 bit
version of Windows 7, experienced any problems with the execution of
long scripts?

I am using RevEnterprise 4.0

Thanks for any feedback.



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Regards


Ian McKnight

iangmckni...@gmail.com
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[ANN] NativeGeometry released

[Damien Girard]

Dear Revolution users,

I am pleased to announce the final release of NativeGeometry. You can get it
now on the NativeSoft website: http://www.nativesoft.fr

The version of the final release is "2.0.0.0101", it is displayed in the
about screen.

I want to thanks all users that have reported feedbacks, bugs during the
open-beta session, NativeGeometry is now stable and should be rock solid.

If you have any feedbacks about NativeGeometry, do not hesitate to email me
at supp...@nativesoft.fr, because remember, NativeGeometry is a tool that
has been developed for you ;)

To buy NativeGeometry, go to the NativeSoft RevSelect store : 
https://secure.runrev.com/store/browse/?category=21

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.
http://www.nativesoft.fr


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RE: Linux application icon

[Damien Girard]

Hi Bill,

On linux, applications does not bundle the icons like Windows or MacOS.

You have to use xdg-utils tools to create desktop icons on the GNOME Desktop
environment.
http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/

Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.

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Envoyé : dimanche 13 juin 2010 21:47
À : How to use Revolution
Objet : Linux application icon


The Rev IDE gives the ability to create the icon for Mac and Windows
applications but not LInux. How do I do this for a Linux application?

Bill Vlahos
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RE: [ANN] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for Revolution is here for free!

[Damien Girard]

Hello,

I will try to answer to all your questions :)

To answer to Jerome (in English):
> Bonne et mauvaise nouvelle !
> 
> Avez-vous des précisions concernant la création d'applications
multilingues avec NativeGeometry 2.0 ?
> Vous indiquez que NativeSpeak 1.x ne va plus évoluer et vous mentionnez
NativeSpeak 2.0 ?
>
> Jérôme

> Good and bad news !
>
> Do you have any precisions about the multilingual application creation
with NativeGeometry 2.0 ?
> You told that NativeSpeak 1.x will not evolve and you say NativeSpeak 2.0
?

NativeGeometry 2.0 will must be used in order to have NativeSpeak 2.0
working properly, let me explain:
- In NativeSpeak 1.x, you were designing your application to be localized,
with the geometry manager and the localization manager. NativeSpeak 1.x was
developed for Revolution 2.2 originally, and there was not multi-dimensional
arrays and few other really cool stuff, that was why it was using xml
databases, the result was that it was working well, but was a bit hard to
use and to implement.

- In NativeSpeak 2.0 and NativeGeometry 2.0, you will design your
application with NativeGeometry 2.0, that is far far better than the
NativeSpeak 1.x geometry manager. Then, once your application has been
designed with NativeGeometry 2.0, NativeSpeak 2.0 will parse your stacks,
and with it you will generate languages files, then in your application you
will just have to load those languages files and voila, your application
will be multi-language!

The main advantage is that the localization process is far less more
intrusive than NativeSpeak 1.x, you develop your application in one and only
one language, then you localize.

> You told that NativeSpeak 1.x will not evolve and you say NativeSpeak 2.0
?

NativeSpeak 2.0 will be released, the release date is not planned, but I
will try to get it working as fast as possible.

-

> I was actually going to BUY a license, even though you are still in Beta,
just to support what appears to be an excellent and much needed tool, but
alas, there is nothing in your storefront that allows me to do so. I noticed
that your screenshots are of a vista/win7 look. Just to be sure, may I
assume this will work with Macs as well as Windows?

Thanks Bob, I am glad to hear that :) I am seeing with my partner Runtime
Revolution Ltd to have NativeGeometry in the store, in few days it should be
ok.

About the screenshot, the application was developed for Windows, but it
should work like all our other products, like a charm :) If you notice any
problem on MacOS do not hesitate to report them to the bugtracker !

-

About the NativeGeometry 2.0 Zip package broken link, it should be fixed.

-

If you have more question, I will be pleased to answer !


Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.
http://www.nativesoft.net




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Envoyé : lundi 17 mai 2010 18:16
À : use-revolution@lists.runrev.com; 'Improvements to Revolution'
Objet : [ANN] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for
Revolution is here for free!



Dear Runtime Revolution user,

I am proud to announce you the OPEN BETA release of NativeGeometry 2.0!

NativeGeometry is our latest extension for Runtime Revolution, it is an
enhanced Geometry Manager that help you to develop faster cross-platform
applications, multi-languages application or simply your applications, with
the ease of the use of the Revolution Geometry manager but with the power
and the speed like if you were writing your own scripts!

To check-out more in depth its features, go to the NativeGeometry website:

http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry

-
-> OPEN PUBLIC BETA

We are inviting everybody to try this new tool, NativeGeometry is now in
beta stage, and in order to have the best quality, we are inviting all of
you to try freely without any limitations NativeGeometry! If you find any
problems, simply report them to the NativeSoft bug tracker.

The NativeGeometry open beta is ending the 14 junes 2010, and the final
release is to be expected at this date :)

More information, download links and sample are on the NativeSoft website:
http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry

-

Also, you can ask "Why NativeGeometry 2.0? Where is 1.0?", the answer is
simple:
- NativeGeometry 1.0 was the NativeSpeak Create 1.0 Geometry manager, so
NativeGeometry is in version 2.0 as it is a complete rewrite from scratch,
with new incredible features!

-


Other news about Dam-pro:

-> NativeSoft

I am pleased to inform you that Dam-pro has been renamed NativeSoft, this
new name match better with our 

[ANN] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for Revolution is here for free!

[Damien Girard]

Dear Runtime Revolution user,

I am proud to announce you the OPEN BETA release of NativeGeometry 2.0!

NativeGeometry is our latest extension for Runtime Revolution, it is an
enhanced Geometry Manager that help you to develop faster cross-platform
applications, multi-languages application or simply your applications, with
the ease of the use of the Revolution Geometry manager but with the power
and the speed like if you were writing your own scripts!

To check-out more in depth its features, go to the NativeGeometry website:

http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry

-
-> OPEN PUBLIC BETA

We are inviting everybody to try this new tool, NativeGeometry is now in
beta stage, and in order to have the best quality, we are inviting all of
you to try freely without any limitations NativeGeometry! If you find any
problems, simply report them to the NativeSoft bug tracker.

The NativeGeometry open beta is ending the 14 junes 2010, and the final
release is to be expected at this date :)

More information, download links and sample are on the NativeSoft website:
http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry

-

Also, you can ask "Why NativeGeometry 2.0? Where is 1.0?", the answer is
simple:
- NativeGeometry 1.0 was the NativeSpeak Create 1.0 Geometry manager, so
NativeGeometry is in version 2.0 as it is a complete rewrite from scratch,
with new incredible features!

-


Other news about Dam-pro:

-> NativeSoft

I am pleased to inform you that Dam-pro has been renamed NativeSoft, this
new name match better with our "Native" products lines, and in the future
with the upcoming NativeSpeak 2.0, and I prefer it :)

So all dam-pro.com emails addresses will continue to work, the dam-pro.com
website is now redirecting to http://www.nativesoft.net

-> NativeSpeak 1.x discontinued

NativeSpeak 1.x is discontinued, the application will continue to works and
we will continue the support, but the application will not be updated
anymore, we recommend to new users that want to create a multi-language
application to use NativeGeometry, then the localization process with
NativeSpeak 2.0 will be really easy.

-> Website improved

The Dam-pro website has been improved in order to become the NativeSoft
website, check-it out!

http://www.nativesoft.net



Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft CEO, France.
http://www.nativesoft.net


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Decode try/catch error return

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I have seen few times ago that somebody developed a stack that was able to
translate Revolution error code to an human understandable message. (like
the Rev debugger do), but I am not able to find it anymore, somebody can
point me to it?

Because 
"356,0,0,402,-23,477,
90,759,20
449,759,7,402,-23,477,
535,759,1,402,-23,477," is not really understandable :D

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.


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Little poll about Revolution script editor

[Damien Girard]

Dear Revolution users,

I have a little question to ask to you before filling an enhancement
request.

Many of you have bought the Revolution Megabundle, and so anybody that
bought it have NativeDoc, and I really recommend to use it as it was made to
increase code reuse and make easier the understanding of your source code.

For those that have NativeDoc and do not know what this tool do:
- NativeDoc is a documentation system for Runtime Revolution.

It is used by Trevor Devore, and by many other users:
http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/docs/sql_yoga/api_docs/Documents
/stack_libSQLYoga.htm
http://www.dam-pro.com/nativedoc



So what I wanted to ask you, do you prefer to have documentation block (and
not block comment) to be displayed in italic ?

The new color scheme introduced in Rev 3.0 made that all block comments are
in italic, what I would have is to have block comment in italic, and
NativeDoc (Doxygen/JavaDoc) block comment not displayed in italic.

A Doxygen/JavaDoc block comment is one of the following:
/**
* Notice "/**"
*/

Or 

/*!
* Notice "/*!"
*/

And more (see NativeDoc documentation for all supported block type).

So, what do you think about that and do you prefer ? Italic or not ?

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France


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RE: Geometry manager

[Damien Girard]

Hi Jacqueline,

The Revolution geometry manager is horrible, and multiple times it broken
entirely (all my objects disappeared !)

That's why NativeSpeak has a geometry manager (to replace rev geometry
manager and for localization/cross platform geometry).

And what I have to say, is that I re-wrote it entirely for NativeSpeak 2.0,
and it is just awesome... (the ease of use + the resizing speed like if you
wrote your own script + cross-platform + localizable). You will see in few
months !

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.


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Gay
Envoyé : mercredi 20 janvier 2010 20:27
À : Revolution Mailing List
Objet : Geometry manager


Is anyone using the geometry manager in commercial stacks? Do you find 
it reliable? I confess that I haven't experimented with it much, I've 
always written my own resize scripts. But I'm in a position now where I 
need to make several large stacks with many objects into resizeable 
windows, and I'm wondering if using the manager would be faster than 
writing all that code.

Any thoughts?

-- 
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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RE: Bill Marriott

[Damien Girard]

Toute mes condoléances à sa famille et ses proches

Damien

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Envoyé : mardi 12 janvier 2010 00:43
À : How to use Revolution; Improvements to Revolution
Objet : Bill Marriott


Hi all,

It is with great sadness that I must inform you that Bill, our Marketing
Director here at RunRev, passed away unexpectedly on Friday. Bill was in his
mid 40s, had diabetes and had suffered a number of health problems recently,
including a heart attack. Unfortunately I¹m not in a position to say much
more about the circumstances of his passing at the moment.

During his time with us Bill spearheaded a number of initiatives which in
part, contributed to some of the most successful growth we have seen in
recent times. Bill was often quirky, sometimes controversial, but usually he
was right. His strategies and campaigns were never boring and the results
speak for themselves. Outside of work I came to consider Bill a close
friend. In time we will be able to find someone to fill his position but I
will always remember him for his unique contribution.

His death comes for me right after the death of my brother¹s young daughter
during the holidays, so between these events it will take me a little time
to find my feet again. If you have emailed me about something and not
received a reply I would ask that you be patient, normal service will resume
shortly.

Thank you Bill, for everything. I hope you rest in peace.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
RunRev - Software construction for everyone

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Re: Speeding a handler?

[Damien Girard]

Hi,

Did you locked the screen ?

lock screen
put 0 into x
repeat for each line aLine of fld someFld
 add 1 to x
 if quote is in aLine then
   set the forecolor of line x of fld someFld to "red"
   replace quote with empty in line x of fld someFld
 end if
end repeat
unlock screen


Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.
Improve your code reusability with NativeDoc! 
http://www.dam-pro.com/nativedoc


Ton Cardona a écrit :

I have a text field with 5.729 lines. 826 of them, those containing quotes, 
must appear coloured in red so the instruction would be:

put 0 into x
repeat for each line aLine of fld someFld
  add 1 to x
  if quote is in aLine then
set the forecolor of line x of fld someFld to "red"
replace quote with empty in line x of fld someFld
  end if
end repeat

The problem is it takes 55 seconds.

I have reduced this time to 33 seconds by recording previously the numbers of 
the lines to be coloured and storing them in a customProp, yet it still takes 
33 seconds.

Does anyone know a faster way of performing this task?

Thanks in advance,

Ton

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Re: Fonts and Ubuntu

[Damien Girard]

Hi,

To install new font on Linux you must copy the file to /usr/share/fonts 
or /home/username/.fonts/ and then rebuild the font cache with:

sudo fc-cache -f -v

For icons, take a look at xdg-desktop-menu and xdg-desktop-icon:
http://portland.freedesktop.org/xdg-utils-1.0/xdg-desktop-menu.html
http://man.he.net/man1/xdg-desktop-icon

And under Linux, cmd line is ever your friend ;)

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.
Improve your code reusability with NativeDoc! 
http://www.dam-pro.com/nativedoc


Richmond Mathewson a écrit :


Mikey wrote:
Richard - excuse me for asking a really basic question and insulting 
your

intelligence,


You are not insulting my intelligence; you are pointing out my 
ignorance -

the 2 are not the same thing . . .  :)


 but why not just
su
or sudo su
or sudo nautilus (if you are trying to bring up a desktop window)?

  

Nike - excuse me; but who is 'Richard' . . .  :)

Because I was thinking about poor, unsuspecting end-users who might
just want to do a good-old drag-N-drop!
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[ANN] NativeDoc 1.5.1

[Damien Girard]

Dear Revolution users,

I am pleased to announce the release of NativeDoc 1.5.1, this versions 
fix few minors bugs that NativeDoc can had with getProp/setProp handlers.


You can download it now using the NativeDoc Web Installer available 
inside RevOnline, or directly from the Dam-pro website.

http://www.dam-pro.com/download

--
Not already using NativeDoc?

NativeDoc allows you to generate an HTML API reference manual from a set 
of documented scripts. The documentation is extracted directly from the 
scripts, which makes it much easier to keep the documentation consistent 
with the source code.


NativeDoc uses the standard Doxygen/JavaDoc documentation block style.


What is said about NativeDoc?

I have to write a lot of API documentation and make it available on the 
web. Before I started using NativeDoc I had messed around with my own 
solutions but none of them were nearly as polished, flexible and 
powerful as NativeDoc. NativeDoc has made it so easy for me to write and 
publish high-quality API documentation that I can't envision doing it 
any other way.


Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems

SQL Yoga API generated with NativeDoc:
http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/docs/sql_yoga/api_docs/Documents/stack_libSQLYoga.htm

GLX Application Framework API generated with NativeDoc:
http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/docs/glxapp_framework/api_docs/Documents/stack_glxapplicationFramework.htm



--> Increase now your productivity NOW by extending your source-code 
re-usability! Check out now NativeDoc!

http://www.dam-pro.com/nativedoc


Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro CEO, France.
http://www.dam-pro.com
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Dam-pro, broken download problem solved.

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

The Dam-pro website had all its downloads broken since few days, a 
Joomla update broken few things, but everything is ok now.

Sorry for the trouble.

Kind Regards,

Damien
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[ANN] The last word in source code documentation!

[Damien Girard]

Dear Revolution user,

We are pleased to announce the release of our new product, NativeDoc™.

* NativeDoc™ is a source code documentation tool, designed to be fast 
and efficient. It enables you to generate a complete API documentation 
for your Revolution stacks.


* NativeDoc™ allows you to generate an HTML API reference manual from a 
set of documented scripts. The documentation is extracted directly from 
the scripts, which makes it easy to keep the documentation consistent 
with the source code.


* NativeDoc™ uses the standard Doxygen/JavaDoc documentation block 
style, so you don't need to re-learn a new code documentation style.


* NativeDoc™ helps you to avoid being lost inside your projects, and 
enables you to reuse your functions and commands easily for faster 
application development. Also, if you are creating an application for a 
customer, you can include the beautiful API reference manual of the 
application that you have written, without any extra work.


Talk is cheap, let's see some action! here is an example of what 
NativeDoc generates:


http://dampro.on-rev.com/images/stories/NativeDoc/Doc/index.htm


And NativeDoc is available at the low prices of 39€ (49$)!


-- Try it for FREE NOW --
Download NativeDoc™ and try it now for free! The free edition of 
NativeDoc™ is limited to only three handlers by objects:


http://dampro.on-rev.com/index.php?option=com_evalsender&view=evalsender&layout=bundle&Itemid=128 




--> Learn more and discover all features on the NEW Dam-pro Website!

http://dampro.on-rev.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=115 




Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.
http://www.dam-pro.com


Rediscover Dam-pro with the new website!
http://www.dam-pro.com

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Re: programming fonts

[Damien Girard]

Hi Richard,

Personnaly, I am using Microsoft Consolas. This font looks very well on 
Vista with ClearType.

(And also on Linux with SubPixel Anti aliasing rendering).

Damien

Richard Gaskin a écrit :


Over the years I've found the Courier's serifs distracting on screen, 
and Monaco's glyph shapes vaguely unpleasant at 12 pts (used to use it 
all the time back when screen res was lower an 9pt was acceptable).


So over the last year I find myself using Andale Mono for most of my 
scripting, and to my eye it's nearly ideal with one near-fatal glitch: 
the descending tail on the comma is shorter than in most fonts, and at 
a glance is difficult to distinguish from a period.


I started to look around for a good programmer's font, but there are 
just too many to download and evaluate them all so I thought I'd check 
in with you folks here:


What's your favorite font for use in your script editor?

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
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Re: "My Revolution" plugin folder path?

[Damien Girard]

Mark Wieder a écrit :

Sarah-

Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:21:32 PM, you wrote:

  

As these are un-documented & therefore unsupported functions, there is
no telling whether they will persist, but since Rev itself needs to
know this information, I would imagine that they will either stay or
be replaced with some other functions providing the same
functionality.



Also note that unless things have changed recently, the user "Plugins"
folder is not created by default, so just getting the result from
revEnvironmentUserPluginsPath() is not a guarantee that the location
exists.

  

Ok thanks, I will look forward with those things.

Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.




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"My Revolution" plugin folder path?

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am searching how to obtain the path of the "My Revolution" folder on 
Windows and Linux, any ideas ?


Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.
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Re: Debugger inside rev stack?

[Damien Girard]

Mark Wieder a écrit :

Damien-

Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:20:54 AM, you wrote:

  

I am meeting a little problem with Rev 3.0, the debugger is not working
at all if the stack name begins with "rev".



  

Any known solution to that problem?



This is by design to prevent endless loops debugging IDE stacks. If
you really need to debug through a stack starting with "rev" then try
putting true into gREVDevelopment from the messagebox and see if that
helps. But I think you're better off renaming your stack, at least
until all the bugs are out.

  


Thanks, setting gREVDevelopment solved the problem.

Regards,

Damien
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Debugger inside rev stack?

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am meeting a little problem with Rev 3.0, the debugger is not working 
at all if the stack name begins with "rev".


Any known solution to that problem?

Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.
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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Damien Girard]

Hi Ben,

At Dam-pro, we are working on Windows; in our laboratories, our 
applications in development looks really modern with a Windows Vista/7 UI.

(The new ParentScript feature of Rev 3.5 is lovely).

Actually released, designed for Windows XP, there is NativeSpeak 
Translate, not the best modern user interface but it is working well.


NativeSpeak Translate:
http://dam-pro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=48

There is also Screenstep that is a really good application (in look and 
in feature): (built with Rev)

http://www.screensteps.com/

Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France

Ben Rubinstein a écrit :


I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that 
handy list I'm looking for.


It's that time again: considering what development approach to take on 
a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected desktop 
app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.


The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well understood; 
there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will be needed; 
the question mark over Rev, as compared to the other two routes being 
considered, is evidence of good looking, slick, user interfaces.  (A 
shocking indictment of my own work, of course, but then my work has 
always concentrated on functionality.)


So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual 
applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in Rev, 
that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used Rev to 
distribute products with an impressive modern user interface.  I'm 
sure that they're out there - I just don't know where.


Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or 
others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.


Many thanks,

- Ben

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Re: Unicode in stack title

[Damien Girard]

Hi Mark,

Look for: set the unicodetitle

Regards,

Damien

Mark Schonewille a écrit :


Hi,

Has anyone been able to get this to work: 
? I'm 
trying it, but so far no joy. What are the exact steps to make it work?


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Re: Vista external: Progress

[Damien Girard]

I found a bug with Revolution that remove the highest interest of having 
"glassed" window:
- Setting the opaque of a field to false and the blendlevel to 1 (In 
order to have the object having the Alpha channel information) lost 
antialiasing on Vista.


This is heavily annoying, so please vote for this bug in order to have 
it fixed for the next Revolution release.

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7521

Also, there is this enhancement request that can make the usage of 
"glass" window usable easily:

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7522

The second enhancement request is for removing the needs to set the 
blendlevel to 1 in order to have objects drawn by Revolution Alpha Blend 
aware.


Please votes for this bug and the enhancement request in order to have 
beautiful glassy windows :)


Regards,

Damien
Dam-pro, France.

Chipp Walters a écrit :

Looks cool. I was wondering if you were going to be able to keep
fields opaque with the window background transparent. That's something
difficult to do in Rev basic-- unless you just want the window to stay
a static size. Nice job

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Vista external: Progress

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I worked a bit on the Vista External, and I am starting to have few 
things interesting.
I will continue to search in order to have cool features for Revolution 
on Vista.


Here is a screenshot of what I did:
http://www.dam-pro.com/devel/Vista_Rev/Screenshot2.png

Best,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France.
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Runrev 2.2.1 bugs under linux -- XML doesn't WORK !

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

Runtime Revolution <= 2.5 doesen't work at all on my linux operating system 
(Gentoo Linux), so I use revolution 2.2.1 who "seem" to work fine.

-- XML doesn't WORK !
I am writting a very powerful, translation, resizing library who use at 300% 
XML (everything is in XML).
Recently, I wanted to port my software under linux.
And when I launched the library, a lot of error have been returned, and the bug 
doesn't come from my library, I saw that when I done this command in the 
message box:
--
put revXMLTrees()

Message execution error:
Error description: Function: error in function handler
--
Very nasty bug, XML work under runrev 2.6.1. But, only runrev 2.2.1 work on my 
computer, because the GTK+ look and feel block runrev.
So I am forced to use vmWare for make software who use this library under 
linux, and I don't like that.

-

I am using a traditional Window manager (Xfce), Xfce look like CDE but he is 
wrote in GTK+.

And I wanted to try the command "wmPlace", for permit to my Window manager to 
place windows, but when I try this command, I have got that error on the 
message box :

set the wmPlace to true

Message execution error:
Error description: Chunk: can't find object

-

I am waiting for a runrev who doesn't contains any bug under linux.

But, maybe this is a dream...

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The first screenshot with a runrev icon on the desktop under linux !

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I have made a GTK+ 2 theme for Linux, and I have take two screenshot of
my linux desktop with this theme.
And what is on the desktop ? - A runrev icon.

http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29467

Is it the first screenshot of a linux with a runrev icon on his desktop.

Regards,

Girard Damien
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Re: Why I have got only 2 speakers working with Quicktime 7 ?

[Damien Girard]

Le jeudi 15 septembre 2005 à 07:04 -0700, Mark Talluto a écrit :
> On Sep 14, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Damien Girard wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have upgraded Quicktime of my Windows to the version 7, and I  
> > have got a problem.
> >
> > With Quicktime 6, when I was playing a stereo file (mp3) with  
> > runrev, I had got all my speakers who return the sound.
> > (This is a feature of my soundcard). But, I have upgraded to  
> > Quicktime 7, and I have got only the sound on my front speakers.
> >
> > So, I wan't to know how I can set all my speaker work with  
> > Quicktime 7 and Revolution (because in Itunes, stereo files are  
> > played with all my speaker and not
> > only front speaker).
> 
> 
> I can only say that QT 7 now supports full surround sound.  If the  
> audio is encoded in stereo only, that may be the problem.  I am sure  
> there is a way to force the recorded channels through to all  
> speakers, but I do not know how.
> 
> 
> Mark Talluto

Hi Mark,

Under windows, DirectSound have got the CMMS feature (feature supported
by my soundcard). Quicktime 6 used DirectSound, and this feature worked.
But with Quicktime 7, this feature is not used, and stereo file aren't
played by all my speakers.
If is it only a Quicktime problem, is it not the place for this message,
but when I play a media file with iTunes, the CMMS feature is used !
So I wan't to know if there are a way for have this feature work with
Runrev.

Regards,
Damien Girard
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Why I have got only 2 speakers working with Quicktime 7 ?

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I have upgraded Quicktime of my Windows to the version 7, and I have got 
a problem.


With Quicktime 6, when I was playing a stereo file (mp3) with runrev, I 
had got all my speakers who return the sound.
(This is a feature of my soundcard). But, I have upgraded to Quicktime 
7, and I have got only the sound on my front speakers.


So, I wan't to know how I can set all my speaker work with Quicktime 7 
and Revolution (because in Itunes, stereo files are played with all my 
speaker and not

only front speaker).

Regards,

Damien Girard
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Re: Runrev and Sun Solaris

[Damien Girard]

Hi Pierre,

Sun Solaris 10 is a really great improvement compared as older Solaris 
release, for me, I like solaris because this OS is unbreakable (if you 
haven't got a root password), (not software who are around) and Solaris 
is hard like a rock.
I have tried FreeBSD, and I found that Solaris is more advanced than 
FreeBSD (dtrace, Solaris containers, smf are great).
Suse Linux 9.3 (Mandriva and Fedora) are more advanced for a desktop use 
for now, but in the futur, with OpenSolaris, Solaris can become also
advanced like linux in the desktop. (But, I found that SunOS is more 
advanced than Linux).
For example: There are now an OpenSolaris KDE Team. 
http://dot.kde.org/1121719390/


And Solaris 10 haven't got for now all his features, the ZFS filesystem 
will be probably the best filesystem ever made (for me) because Sun have 
acquired
StorageTek, and the Janus project will be also very great (Run any linux 
software under the Solaris OS).


Solaris need some thing for now, but the most important is: graphic 
drivers.
NVidia provide graphics driver for Solaris, and is it really great. When 
the Janus project will release, you can run any linux game (or Windows 
game with Cedega)

under Solaris.
ATI doesn't provide any driver for now, but I am waiting (because I have 
got an ATI card).


For me (and for a lot of other people), Sun Solaris is the most advanced 
UNIX Operating system.


There is one problem with Solaris compared to recent linux distrobution, 
is it configuration tools who contains a GUI. And Runrev is made for that.
If there is a Runrev for Solaris, I will today write GUI for the 
OpenSolaris OS, and permit to all users and administrators in the world 
to use Solaris/OpenSolaris.. (OpenSolaris is the Solaris OS but fully 
OpenSource, Solaris OS provide only support, this look like RedHat 
enterprise Linux and RedHat Fedora Core.).


And OpenSolaris will quickly become better, because there are Sun, who 
work on OpenSolaris, and the Open-Source community.


More information about new technologies who are in the Solaris 10 OS, 
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/index.jsp.


Is it my view of Solaris,

Thanks for your votes.

Regards,

Damien


Pierre Sahores wrote:


Aloha Damien,

Just added 5 votes to 
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2958 ;-)


Currently using Rev 2.6 Entreprise in about "n-tier" developments 
under MacOS X, Linux x86 and Win XP...


Question : i tested Solaris 8 years before without finding it realy 
more advenced than Suse-Linux Pro. How would you rate Solaris 10 in 
comparaison to (1) FreeBSD and (2) Suse-Linux 9.3 Pro or Linux-Fedora 
Core 4 ?


Best Regards,

Le 11 sept. 05 à 12:12, Damien Girard a écrit :


Hi all,

I am an using runrev, and I wan't to join and to contribute to the 
OpenSolaris community (in my free time).
With Runrev, I can make powerful GUI (for exemple: a configuration 
center) in GTK+ 2.0 look and feel.
But, runrev doesn't support Sun Solaris x86 for now, only Solaris 
Sparc (only Sparc 32 bits).


So, I ask if there are any way for have Runtime Revolution compatible 
with all Solaris platform.


Solaris x86, x86-64
Solaris SPARC, SPARC 64.
Solaris PowerPC (Not release yet, but is it a project).

Solaris is more and more used since he became free.

Runtime Revolution have got a real potential, and if the community 
discover him, his potential can be used by more and more developpers.


If you agree with what I said, please vote or confirm this 
enhancement request :

http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2958

Sun Solaris 10 website:
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/index.jsp

OpenSolaris website:
http://opensolaris.org/

Solaris PowerPC project:
http://blastware.org/

and, if you disagree, please say me why.

Thanks.

Regards,

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Runrev and Sun Solaris

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am an using runrev, and I wan't to join and to contribute to the 
OpenSolaris community (in my free time).
With Runrev, I can make powerful GUI (for exemple: a configuration 
center) in GTK+ 2.0 look and feel.
But, runrev doesn't support Sun Solaris x86 for now, only Solaris Sparc 
(only Sparc 32 bits).


So, I ask if there are any way for have Runtime Revolution compatible 
with all Solaris platform.


Solaris x86, x86-64
Solaris SPARC, SPARC 64.
Solaris PowerPC (Not release yet, but is it a project).

Solaris is more and more used since he became free.

Runtime Revolution have got a real potential, and if the community 
discover him, his potential can be used by more and more developpers.


If you agree with what I said, please vote or confirm this enhancement 
request :

http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2958

Sun Solaris 10 website:
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/index.jsp

OpenSolaris website:
http://opensolaris.org/

Solaris PowerPC project:
http://blastware.org/

and, if you disagree, please say me why.

Thanks.

Regards,

Girard Damien : Unix/Linux user.
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Re: Sort numbers, problem.

[Damien Girard]

Bonjour Klaus,

Thanks ! This work very fine now.

Regards,

Damien.

Klaus Major wrote:


Bonjour Damien,


Hi all,

I have got a problem with the sort command in Revolution.
I have got a list, who contains number, and I need to sort them,  but 
there are a problem with the sort command.


Exemple script:

global totox
put "1,215,3,48,5,16,24" into totox
sort items of totox
put totox

Normally, I will have got this result :
"1,3,5,16,24,48,215"

but NO, I have got this :
"1,16,215,24,3,48,5"

There are 2 ways for this problem, I have forgot to write somthing  
in my script or there is a beautiful bug.



Sorry to disappoint you, but this is no bug ;-)

...
sort items of totox NUMERIC
...

Will do the trick :-)


Thanks.

Damien Girard
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Best

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Sort numbers, problem.

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I have got a problem with the sort command in Revolution.
I have got a list, who contains number, and I need to sort them, but 
there are a problem with the sort command.


Exemple script:

global totox
put "1,215,3,48,5,16,24" into totox
sort items of totox
put totox

Normally, I will have got this result :
"1,3,5,16,24,48,215"

but NO, I have got this :
"1,16,215,24,3,48,5"

There are 2 ways for this problem, I have forgot to write somthing in my 
script or there is a beautiful bug.


Thanks.

Damien Girard
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Re: Question for Linux Users:

[Damien Girard]

Le Jeudi 21 juillet 2005 à 11:28 +1000, Rishi Viner a écrit :
> Linux users,
> 
> What distro do you find works best with Rev?
> 
> Do you find it works better with a KDE or GNOME desktop?
> 
> I'm getting a lot of annoying things happening like:
> -cut/copy/paste just doesn't work 
> -keyboard interaction in Rev is sometimes flaky (eg sometimes when writing 
> scripts the enter key stops working, so you can't get a new line).
> 
> So I was wondering if there are Linux users out there who are having a 
> perfect/smooth/functional experience with Rev and if so, what environment 
> they are in that seems to keep it all nice. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 

There are problems with all distro, (I have tried with
Debian,RedHat,Mandrake,Suse).

And Runrev work better with the Gnome Desktop (but is it not very good).
I have tried with XFCE and runrev work a bit better than Gnome.

Please, go to http://support.runrev.com/bugzilla (or use RevZilla) and
confirm bugs that I have reported about the Linux engine.

And I have never had a perfect/smooth/functional experience with Rev
under Linux/Unix. (I have got FreeBSD now, and Runrev doesn't work at
all).

So, I am waiting the perfect "Revolution Linux/Unix" who work so good as
work Runrev under MacOS X.

Damien Girard

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Re: Revolution Bsd unix engine doesn't start

[Damien Girard]

Le Jeudi 14 juillet 2005 à 15:57 -0300, Andre Garzia a écrit :
> On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> 
> > On 7/14/05 9:40 AM, Damien Girard wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am under FreeBSD 5.4, so I wan't to see if Runrev work under  
> >> Bsd, I am
> >> going to the Runtime Revolution website, I download the Bsd engine
> >> (2.2.1) and Revolution 2.6 (linux tgz).
> >> I uncompress all files, I open a terminal emulator, and I done that :
> >> 
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./Bsd
> >> 
> >> And nothing else is done, Runrev doesn't start.
> >> Runrev bug ?
> >> I have also tryed with Revolution.x86 (FreeBSD have Linux emulation
> >> binaries), and I have got this error :
> >> 
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./revolution.x86
> >> ./revolution.x86: error while loading shared
> >> libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid
> >>
> >
> > This happens with CGIs too in Apache if certain libraries are not  
> > installed. Even though this library isn't used much, Revolution  
> > requires it to be there. Install it and you should be fine.
> 
> if your trouble is with libGDK, there's a workaround setting a  
> enviroment variable. If it is about some other lib, then I don't have  
> a clue...
> 
> Andre
> 
I haven't got trouble with libGDK because the GTK+ Look and feel have
been included in Revolution 2.5 (not 2.2.1)

And what is these library that runrev require ?

Damien

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Revolution Bsd unix engine doesn't start

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am under FreeBSD 5.4, so I wan't to see if Runrev work under Bsd, I am
going to the Runtime Revolution website, I download the Bsd engine
(2.2.1) and Revolution 2.6 (linux tgz).

I uncompress all files, I open a terminal emulator, and I done that :


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ./Bsd



And nothing else is done, Runrev doesn't start.
Runrev bug ?

I have also tryed with Revolution.x86 (FreeBSD have Linux emulation
binaries), and I have got this error :


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ./revolution.x86
./revolution.x86: error while loading shared
libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid
---

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Re: Select a field (For text writing)

[Damien Girard]

Thanks Eric,

I use that :
select the text of 

And this work very fine :)

Girard Damien
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Le vendredi 01 juillet 2005 à 17:23 +0200, Eric Chatonet a écrit :
> Hi Damien,
> 
> As I regained one's sight (see a previous post) and if I understand  
> correctly (here, I'm not sure) the select command with one of these  
> forms should help you:
> 
> select text of fld  -- but not select fld   
> which would select the field object
> select before text of fld  -- or: just select before fld  
> 
> select after text of fld  -- or: just select after fld  
> 
> select char 1 to 5 of fld 
> select char 5 to 4 of fld  -- to place the insertion  
> point between two chars
> select char 1, item 2, word 3, line 4 of fld 
> select char 1 to 2 of item 3 of line 4 of fld 
> etc.
> 
> If you want type by script (I did not understand exactly your  
> purpose), see the type command.
> 
> Le 1 juil. 05 à 17:10, Damien Girard a écrit :
> 
> > I have got a stack, that show some group. In these group, the user  
> > must write
> > information (in field), I want to know how I can "select" the  
> > field, for when
> > the user show the group, I can directly write the text.
> >
> > Pour les français (si vous comprenez pas ce que je veux dire en  
> > anglais :D )
> >
> > En fait, j'ai un "stack", et il affiche des groupes, en fait, c'est  
> > groupes
> > aggisent un peu comme la commande ask, quand on l'affiche, on peut  
> > marquer
> > directement le texte à l'intérieur du champs. Je voudrai pouvoir  
> > faire la
> > même chose, mais avec des groupes.
> 
> 
> Best Regards from Paris,
> 
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Select a field (For text writing)

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I have got a stack, that show some group. In these group, the user must write 
information (in field), I want to know how I can "select" the field, for when 
the user show the group, I can directly write the text.

Pour les français (si vous comprenez pas ce que je veux dire en anglais :D )

En fait, j'ai un "stack", et il affiche des groupes, en fait, c'est groupes 
aggisent un peu comme la commande ask, quand on l'affiche, on peut marquer 
directement le texte à l'intérieur du champs. Je voudrai pouvoir faire la 
même chose, mais avec des groupes.

Je vous remercie.

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Re: How do I make simple multiple user access app?

[Damien Girard]

I have make some database before, and I use these method :

A stack for each user (in the user directories), and work with field --> There 
are a problem : With more than 1000 entries, the stack is really big, and 
slow...

A text file, with separator (good, but can be slow if the engine is not well 
writted).

And, a XML file (my favorite), fast, extensible, and can be used by more than 
1 person at the same time (but you need to save the XML tree into the file).
I am using XML in all my software, and I have never got a problem with XML.

But, the best, for you, is to use a Database server (Oracle, MySql...).

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Le Jeudi 30 Juin 2005 09:44, keith a écrit :
> I've been working things out as much as possible by using the
> documentation and searching my email archives, but I'd appreciate
> some live input on this if y'all don't mind!
>
> What's the very simplest way to build a basic card database stack
> which needs to be used by more than one person at once?
>
> This is a simple data capture tool which creates a new card for each
> chunk of data that's entered (details on a new product) and spits out
> a tab-delimited text file to be sent off to another organisation for
> their use.
>
> There's probably no need to alter existing data, but it would be
> necessary to let the user browse through previous entries. Easy
> enough: previous/next, popup menu listing the cards by product title,
> etc. We're talking just hundreds of items here, with simple
> sub-categories to keep browsing manageable if it grows much beyond
> that. But here's the twist...
>
> It is likely to be left open on someone's screen, but it is also
> likely to be needed by one or two other people at the same time. The
> information (the cards with their fields and other controls) needs to
> be collated/kept in one location (i.e. run from the local network
> file server?), not as separate collections of data on different
> 'single user' machines.
>
> To start with at least there's no chance of a true server database
> such as MySQL. So, how is multiple user access handled in a situation
> like this, where it is all down to Revolution? What's the simplest
> solution, both in terms of ease of creation and robustness, that
> you'd suggest? (This aspect could be done in FileMaker, but that app
> just makes me want to scream when it comes to development control. It
> is as inflexible and blinkered as Revolution is flexible and
> open-ended! :-)
>
> Thanks in advance, my fingers are crossed!
>
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Re: Runrev bug, or I have made an error ?

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Le Jeudi 30 Juin 2005 15:08, Klaus Major a écrit :
> Bonjour Damien,
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am using runrev 2.6 under linux, and I have a strange bug.
> >
> > I need to get a list of font, and put a tab before each line of the
> > fontlist
> > (is it for a font menu).
> >
> > This is my script :
> >
> >   put fontnames() into TheList
> >   sort TheList
> >
> >   put "0" into LineToDo
> >   repeat for each line 1 in TheList
> > put LineToDo +1 into LineToDo
> > put tab before line LineToDo of TheList
> >   end repeat
> >
> > And the problem is in the result :
> >
> >  The Result
> >
> > andale sans
> >  ...
> > urw chancery l
> > urw gothic l
> > urw palladio l
> > utopia
> >
> >  /The Result
> >
> > The problem, is that all font have got a tab before it, but not 2
> > last line :
> > urw palladio l
> > utopia
> >
> > For me, I didn't see any bug in the script, but this seem to
> > doesn't work...
>
> actually the "repeat for each" control stucture is meant to be READ-
> only!
> And thus there may be strange results if you try to change the lines...
> And your syntax is not quite correct.
>
> Try this:
> ...
>put fontnames() into TheList
>sort TheList
>repeat for each line L in TheList
>   put TAB & L & CR after new_list
>end repeat
>delete char -1 of new_list
>## delete trailing CR
>## c'est ça :-)
>   ...
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> > Thanks.
>
> Regards
>
> Klaus Major
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.major-k.de
>
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I have learn something in the repeat (I have learn Revolution alone !)

repeat for each  in Thelist

I have found the problem, for have my script work :

  put fontnames() into TheList
  sort TheList
  put the number of lines of TheList into TheCounter
  
  put "0" into LineToDo
  repeat for TheCounter Times
put LineToDo +1 into LineToDo
put tab before line LineToDo of TheList
  end repeat

Now, this work fine. (I think this script is well writted for me)

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Runrev bug, or I have made an error ?

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am using runrev 2.6 under linux, and I have a strange bug.

I need to get a list of font, and put a tab before each line of the fontlist 
(is it for a font menu).

This is my script :

  put fontnames() into TheList
  sort TheList
  
  put "0" into LineToDo
  repeat for each line 1 in TheList
put LineToDo +1 into LineToDo
put tab before line LineToDo of TheList
  end repeat
  
And the problem is in the result :

 The Result

andale sans
andy mt
bell mt
bitstream charter
bitstream vera sans
bitstream vera sans mono
bitstream vera serif
century schoolbook l
charter
clean
courier
courier 10 pitch
cumberland amt
fixed
helvetica
lucida
lucidabright
lucidatypewriter
luxi mono
luxi sans
luxi serif
monotype sorts
new century schoolbook
nimbus mono l
nimbus roman no9 l
nimbus sans l
segoe
suse sans
suse sans mono
suse serif
tahoma
terminal
thorndale amt
times
urw bookman l
urw chancery l
urw gothic l
urw palladio l
utopia

 /The Result

The problem, is that all font have got a tab before it, but not 2 last line : 
urw palladio l
utopia

For me, I didn't see any bug in the script, but this seem to doesn't work...

Thanks.
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Re: Stop a repeat script

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Le jeudi 16 juin 2005 à 19:23 -0400, Thomas McCarthy a écrit :
> A good idea I picked up from somewhere is to build in a time limit on repeats 
> whenever possible:
> 
> --before entering repeat loop
> put the ticks + 600 into endtime --(10 second timelimit)
> repeat with i = 1 to somenumber
> if the ticks > endtime then
> answer "overtime" --might want to report other information to help debug
> exit repeat
> end if
> 
> do repeat stuff here
> end repeat
> 
> it's only a couple of lines of code, but it's saved me many a crash.
> cheers
> tom
> 
I used already a similar method (but without the ticks command), but
this method is better than my method, I think I will use it.

Damien

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Re: revXMLtrees() function doesn't work with Runrev 2.2.1 Linux

[Damien Girard]

Le vendredi 17 juin 2005 à 09:25 +1000, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :
> > I am making a little software, and I use the XML power in my software,
> > and I must done the revXMLTrees() function, but runrev return me this
> > error :
> >
> > put revxmltrees()
> >
> > Message execution error:
> > Error description: Function: error in function handler
> >
> > This is a very nasty bug of Runrev, this bug aren't in runrev 2.6
> >
> Hi Damien,
> 
> I have tested the revXMLTrees() function in Rev 2.6 and as you say,  
> it works fine, so I'm not quite clear on what your problem is.
> 
> Are you saying that it doesn't work in earlier versions of Rev, or is  
> the problem in a standalone? I built a standalone and again, this  
> function works perfectly, but perhaps the XML library was not  
> included in your standalone.
> 
> Could you please explain more fully exactly what causes this error?
> 
> Cheers,
> Sarah

The revXMLTrees() function work very fine under Runrev 2.6 (In runrev
2.5 the XML engine have changed under linux), but under Runrev 2.2, this
function doesn't work under linux.

Damien

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Re: Stop a repeat script

[Damien Girard]

Thanks, but I have killed revolution. (I am under Linux)
I will try the ctrl period.

pkill revolution.x86

Le jeudi 16 juin 2005 à 14:14 +0100, Mark Smith a écrit :
> Try pressing command & period (on a mac) or ctrl period (on windows). 
> If that doesn't do it, you may have to 'force quit' from the dock (on 
> mac), or whatever the equivalent is on windows.
> 
> 
> On 16 Jun 2005, at 13:42, Damien Girard wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have done an error with a repeat script, and I want to stop it (I am
> > under the Runrev IDE), but I didn't know how I stop a repeat forever
> > script launched.(Runrev are blocked, I cannot done everything)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Damien Girard
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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revXMLtrees() function doesn't work with Runrev 2.2.1 Linux

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am making a little software, and I use the XML power in my software,
and I must done the revXMLTrees() function, but runrev return me this
error :

put revxmltrees()

Message execution error:
Error description: Function: error in function handler

This is a very nasty bug of Runrev, this bug aren't in runrev 2.6

If you can help me for resolving this issue...

Thanks.

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Stop a repeat script

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I have done an error with a repeat script, and I want to stop it (I am
under the Runrev IDE), but I didn't know how I stop a repeat forever
script launched.(Runrev are blocked, I cannot done everything)

Thanks
Damien Girard
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WindowShape doesn't work under Linux

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am currently under Suse Linux 9.3 (very great linux), and Gnome 2.10,
and I have these bug :

- The systemwindow function doesn't work (bug reported)
- The windowshape doesn't work (he doesn't work because Runrev can't set
decoration to empty)
- I haven't got the GTK+ look and feel.
- The main window of revolution move down the screen (bug reported) at
each startup of revolution. (For see this bug, launch runrev, close
runrev, and re-launch runrev)

So, a lot a problem, I will report these bug, if somebody have got
linux, and can confirm these bug, thanks.

Runrev 2.6 (last build)

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Re: Linux CGI Missing a Library on Server

[Damien Girard]

If you can install softwares on your web server, just install glibc and
Runrev will work.

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Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 15:04 -0700, Dan Shafer a écrit :
> I am trying to get Rev CGI scripting working at dreamhost.com, my new  
> favorite hosting service.
> 
> I uploaded the Linux.x86 engine to the server, set its permissions  
> per their instructions, and uploaded two known-good rev CGi scripts  
> that work fine on my OS X Apache server.
> 
> It appears Rev is being invoked because it responds with an error.  
> However, the error may indicate I just can't run Rev CGI on that  
> server. Any clues?
> 
> the error says:
> 
> revolution: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required  
> by revolution)
> 
> I suppose it's possible they're not running an x86 Linux and that  
> could be the whole problem.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ~~
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> June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California
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Revolution for Sun Solaris 10

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am using now Sun Solaris 10 for x86.
I have found a Runrev engine for Solaris Intel, but is it only for
Revolution 2.1.2, and this engine doesn't work with
Revolution 2.6.
So, I need revolution for my OS, and I want to know where I can download
Revolution for Solaris (if he exist).

Thanks

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Re: RUNREV 2.6 DOESN'T WORK

[Damien Girard]

Runrev "WORK"in Motif under Linux, you haven't got the GTK+ Look and
feel (not the KDE look and feel but the Gnome).

This is because library haven't got the good name.

Runrev search these library :

/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so
/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so

And in your system, these library have got a different name. (There are
just some link to make).

Under RedHat, I had just to install the devel package of gtk+ and these
file are maked.

And after, Runrev will not start.

Damien

Le mercredi 08 juin 2005 à 02:27 -0700, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
> Damien Girard wrote:
> > Le mardi 07 juin 2005 à 14:44 -0300, Andre Garzia a écrit :
> > 
> >>On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Damien Girard wrote:
> >>
> >>>That right, but runrev standalone work in GTK look and feel, the 
> >>>problem can come from the Runrev IDE.
> >>>
> >>
> >>what problem? sorry, wasn't following the thread. Problem with your 
> >>standalones or problem with some IDE behaviour?
> >>
> >>Andre
> > 
> > 
> > The problem is simple, I cannot start the Runrev under linux.
> 
> FWIW I had occassion to install Linspire this afternoon, and downloaded
> Rev and it ran well.
> 
> My only disappointment is that I thought there were now native
> appearances for most Linux flavors, no?  I only had Motif. :(
> 
> But other than cosmetic issues it ran straight out of the tar file.
> 
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Re: RUNREV 2.6 DOESN'T WORK

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Le mardi 07 juin 2005 à 14:44 -0300, Andre Garzia a écrit :
> On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Damien Girard wrote:
> 
> > That right, but runrev standalone work in GTK look and feel, the 
> > problem can come from the Runrev IDE.
> >
> 
> what problem? sorry, wasn't following the thread. Problem with your 
> standalones or problem with some IDE behaviour?
> 
> Andre
> 

The problem is simple, I cannot start the Runrev under linux.

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Re: RUNREV 2.6 DOESN'T WORK

[Damien Girard]

Richard Gaskin a écrit :


Damien Girard wrote:


Linux can have a very great look and feel, but need some work.
Where I can download Metacard ? Because if Metacard work, I'll can 
write software for Linux.



MetaCard is just the old name for Revolution before RunRev acquired 
it.  Same engine...


That right, but runrev standalone work in GTK look and feel, the problem 
can come from the Runrev IDE.

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Re: RUNREV 2.6 DOESN'T WORK

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MisterX a écrit :


Damien

I agree with you that Rev is very "Mac" only quality oriented and 
the other platforms' appearance manager (out of macs) is just useless.


There's GTK and there's gnome. I've run Metacard on suse 9 with both
installed and dont remember having problems. I may ditch Windows any
day and join you in the rant but generally Rev works... If not, make 
a critical or blocker bug - it MAY get some attention... ;)


Im sure someone in RunRev will come to the rescue ;) They are good people
and now should be sober from the release celebration and jubilation.

There's new features and many fixes in every runrev release and 
contrary to many unix products they usually fare quite well on Mac

and a bit less on PCs. I stopped unix because of their lousy look and
feel but it doesn't mean they dont work...

I think there's more international clients like you and me that would
like to see "correct" international and diacritical text handling (not
to mention justification, leading and kerning or even a simple field
rotation feature. But who knows where RunRev picks their priorities.

It sure dont come from the Unix or Windows professional needs that many
windows and clients need compared to a 10% PC/developpers' population eager
for eye candy. But RunRev is a multimedia tool with excellent text list or
database or anything manipulation tool. 


Meanwhile, rev is still the best i know on windows "that resembles HyperCard
and MacOS or my own OS in my own hands." I make my own appearances (without
the "closed" appearance feature that completely missed the "theme" bandwagon
10 years ago...). That's lame imoho. Rev prefers building mac only features
instead of fixing their cross platform problems (so many i wont mention them
- Kevin should working strictly on a PC to feel how hostile it can be...

I would gladly enjoy COM objects in rev applications more than MacOS eye
candy... Wouldn't that be a more business empowering feature? I wonder where
they pull their resources for such trivial non-practical features... But
hey, i could go on for hours! C'est la vie...

But Rev, MC works and rocks!!! A bit less than other tools but without the
development overhead and practically none of the limits (cough cough)...

cheers
Xavier ;)
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Subject: Re: RUNREV 2.6 DOESN'T WORK

Richard Gaskin a écrit :

   


Damien Girard wrote:

 


Hi all,

I think I will become crazy, but I wait, I am waiting a Runtime 
Revolution that WORK under linux.


Revolution 2.2 work but are bugged with new desktop 
   

manager (Gnome, 
   

KDE), Revolution 2.5 and 2.5.1 doesn't work at all with 
   

the GTK+ Look 
   


and feel and Revolution 2.6 doesn't work also.

I have got this bug when I want to start Revolution :

The runrev loader window is showed "Revolution 2.6", and 
   

nothing else 
   

is done, I have got only at the bottom right of this 
   

window "Loading 
   


standard Icons..."

So, I just want a Runrev that WORK under linux.
   

It'll be interesting to read what the lead engineer, Mark 
 

Waddingham, 
   

can offer here.  It's my understanding that his main 
 

machine is Linux, 
   

so I know they're highly motivated to have it work as well 
 

there as on 
   


other platforms.

FWIW, while I don't spent a lot of time with Linux when I 
 

have run Rev 
   

it's worked well, so I suspect the issues you're seeing are either 
related to the installation and/or will be short-lived.


--
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Runrev doesn't work, it work only in Emulated Look and feel, 
there aren't all font under linux, the windowboundingrect are 
wrong, french special characters doesn't work ("éùàç...").

And runrev doesn't start if I set good library
(libgdk-x11...,libgtk-x11...,libgobject) for have the GTK 
look and feel.


The GTK look and feel is good, but he doesn't work. I have 
tryed with 3 distrobutions, and never I had a Revolution that work.


I understand, there aren't a lot of user of Runrev under 
linux, but why ? Because runrev isn't the best under linux. 
(Under MacOS X, yes, Revolution is very great)


And I say only the true. Maybe, Runrev doesn't support 
something in a french linux ?


(Sorry about my english, I'm French)
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Re: RUNREV 2.6 DOESN'T WORK

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Richard Gaskin a écrit :


Damien Girard wrote:


Hi all,

I think I will become crazy, but I wait, I am waiting a Runtime
Revolution that WORK under linux.

Revolution 2.2 work but are bugged with new desktop manager (Gnome,
KDE), Revolution 2.5 and 2.5.1 doesn't work at all with the GTK+ Look
and feel and Revolution 2.6 doesn't work also.

I have got this bug when I want to start Revolution :

The runrev loader window is showed "Revolution 2.6", and nothing else is
done, I have got only at the bottom right of this window "Loading
standard Icons..."

So, I just want a Runrev that WORK under linux.



It'll be interesting to read what the lead engineer, Mark Waddingham, 
can offer here.  It's my understanding that his main machine is Linux, 
so I know they're highly motivated to have it work as well there as on 
other platforms.


FWIW, while I don't spent a lot of time with Linux when I have run Rev 
it's worked well, so I suspect the issues you're seeing are either 
related to the installation and/or will be short-lived.


--
 Richard Gaskin
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Runrev doesn't work, it work only in Emulated Look and feel, there 
aren't all font under linux, the windowboundingrect are wrong, french 
special characters doesn't work ("éùàç...").
And runrev doesn't start if I set good library 
(libgdk-x11...,libgtk-x11...,libgobject) for have the GTK look and feel.


The GTK look and feel is good, but he doesn't work. I have tryed with 3 
distrobutions, and never I had a Revolution that work.


I understand, there aren't a lot of user of Runrev under linux, but why 
? Because runrev isn't the best under linux. (Under MacOS X, yes, 
Revolution is very great)


And I say only the true. Maybe, Runrev doesn't support something in a 
french linux ?


(Sorry about my english, I'm French)
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RUNREV 2.6 DOESN'T WORK

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I think I will become crazy, but I wait, I am waiting a Runtime
Revolution that WORK under linux.

Revolution 2.2 work but are bugged with new desktop manager (Gnome,
KDE), Revolution 2.5 and 2.5.1 doesn't work at all with the GTK+ Look
and feel and Revolution 2.6 doesn't work also.

I have got this bug when I want to start Revolution :

The runrev loader window is showed "Revolution 2.6", and nothing else is
done, I have got only at the bottom right of this window "Loading
standard Icons..."

So, I just want a Runrev that WORK under linux.

Damien Girard
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Note: I think I will learn Java and leave Runrev because Java work under
linux.

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How have the resizing window cursor.

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

Under revolution, I am making a stack with a windowshape, and with my 
resizing engine,
so I have maked a graphic, when you click on the graphic, you can resize 
the window. But,
for the user, I need a resizing cursor. But runrev haven't got all icon 
of Microsoft Windows, so
I didn't see any built-in cursor that can help me. So I want to know if 
there are any method for
have all windows cursor (and who follow the system cursor theme). 
Because resizing a stack with

an arrow, aren't pretty.

Thanks.

Damien Girard
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Re: Use french special caracters in an XML file.

[Damien Girard]

I didn't understands.
I encode characters with UniEncode, and I put them after in the XML 
database.
Put in return, When I get what I have wrote in the database, I have got 
only the first char.

For exemple, this text : "toto", I have got only this written in the XML 
file "t"
I think I have forget something.

Andre Garzia a Ãcrit :
On May 20, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Damien Girard wrote:
Thanks, I will try (setting the UTF-8).
Girard,
If you're using revPutIntoXMLNode to put your contents, remember to 
uniDecode them.

cheers
andre

Girard Damien
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Re: Use french special caracters in an XML file.

[Damien Girard]

Thanks, I will try (setting the UTF-8). 

Girard Damien
PS: If this work, you helped me.

Le vendredi 20 mai 2005 à 10:47 -0300, Andre Garzia a écrit :
> On May 20, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Damien Girard wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I make a database (in XML), in this database, user can write 
> > information
> > about a lot of things, but I have tried my software, and I see a really
> > nasty bug, and I didn't know how I can solve it.
> >
> > French special characters (éèçàù) doesn't work, I have got a strange
> > return instead of the good characters. (For exemple, é -> é$$)
> >
> > So, I think I need to encode the text, but how I can encode it ? Runrev
> > provide a function that permit to encode text ?
> >
> > This database will treat a lot of data, so this need to be really fast.
> > (Without any encoding, this is really fast.)
> >
> > Thanks.
> 
> Hi Damien,
> 
> you can use some tricks. You can make a UTF-8 (unicode) enabled XML by 
> setting it's encoding attribute to "UTF-8", then pipe your unicode 
> content to it. If you want this to display on Rev text fields then you 
> need to set the unicodetext prop of the field, using put won't work.
> 
> You can convert the diacreticals characters to their HTML entitities 
> (by getting the htmltext prop of the field), escape the ampersand char 
> and put the thing inside the XML, remember to convert back before 
> setting the HTMLText prop of a field.
> 
> You can create your own tagging routine (this is tedious, but it works).
> 
> Cheers
> andre
> PS: did I helped?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Damien GIRARD
> >
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Use french special caracters in an XML file.

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I make a database (in XML), in this database, user can write information
about a lot of things, but I have tried my software, and I see a really
nasty bug, and I didn't know how I can solve it.

French special characters (éèçàù) doesn't work, I have got a strange
return instead of the good characters. (For exemple, é -> é$$)

So, I think I need to encode the text, but how I can encode it ? Runrev
provide a function that permit to encode text ?

This database will treat a lot of data, so this need to be really fast.
(Without any encoding, this is really fast.)

Thanks.

Damien GIRARD

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Runrev work with your linux ?

[Damien Girard]

Hi all,

I am using runrev under linux, and he doesn't work at all when I launch
runrev with the GTK+ look and feel. Runrev only start in motif, so I
search people who can launch runrev with the GTK+ look and feel, for
search where the bug can come from.

I have tryed with Runrev 2.5.1 under :
- Fedora Core 3 -> Doesn't work
- Debian Sarge and Sid -> Doesn't work

The language used is French and my $LANG is :
- Debian -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

Damien Girard

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Re: Use an another player that XAnim

[Damien Girard]

Le mardi 17 mai 2005 à 10:25 -0700, Mark Talluto a écrit :
> On May 17, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Damien Girard wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am using revolution under Linux, and about video and audio feature,
> > this isn't very great for now.
> >
> > So, I have seen that there are the vcplayer command in runrev. So, I
> > want to choose an another player that Xanim (who aren't supported
> > anymore since 1999). But I didn't know a player who can work with
> > revolution. I have tried with mplayer, but this doesn't work.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> 
> 
> Take a look at feature request:  <http://support.runrev.com/ 
> bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2290>
> 
> Mplayer would be the obvious choice.  Though, if you are into rumors,  
> one is floating around that Apple has or is porting QT to Linux.  Has  
> something to do with iTunes for Linux.  That would be the very best  
> solution for me.
> 
> 
> Mark Talluto

Is it only a rumor, Apple can port QT to linux, but I didn't think now.
Mplayer is considerated has the best media player for linux (because he
can read anything).

So, for now, runrev can read only video and audio file with Xanim ? (I
tried with Xanim and runrev doesn't work with it, nasty bug).

Damien Girard

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Use an another player that XAnim

[Damien Girard]

Hi All,

I am using revolution under Linux, and about video and audio feature,
this isn't very great for now.

So, I have seen that there are the vcplayer command in runrev. So, I
want to choose an another player that Xanim (who aren't supported
anymore since 1999). But I didn't know a player who can work with
revolution. I have tried with mplayer, but this doesn't work.

Thanks.

GIRARD Damien

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