Re: standalone - start only once
That feature is coming in the next release (very soon) see the august newsletter: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/august/issue6/newsletter1.html Pat - Original Message - From: Nicolas Cueto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: standalone - start only once Hello list, Is there a way of preventing a standalone from being started again once it has already been started? A backdrop might be a solution, but perhaps there are other Rev options? The reason I ask is that very young users of my stacks will click a standalone's icon again and again if the start-up screen does not appear *immediately* (or, sometimes, they just like to click because it's fun). Thank you. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/409 - Release Date: 4/08/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.7 Evaluation (Win XP)
Confirmed. Pat - Original Message - From: Brian K. Maher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Rev 2.7 Evaluation (Win XP) Hi Folks, I just installed Rev 2.7 on XP and obtained a 30 day trial code. It appears that there is a bug and you are forced to re-enter the trial code information every time you start Rev up. Can anyone else confirm this? Thanks, Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.7/259 - Release Date: 13/02/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Clipboard madness
Hi, For what it's worth, I can confirm the same result as Xavier. It also happens pasting into the message box. I am on PC XP Pro. For some reason I didn't think of it as a bug, but I realize now that it is. It was annoying, but to get around it when copying and pasting, I pasted it first into Notepad and then into Rev (quicker than typing the missing bits) Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Clipboard madness Richard, In what way is it wrong? in what way is it wrong that you don't test what I posted in the first place in this thread? PC issue only again? Again... What happens is that if there is html in the clipdata, what is in between backslashes gets filtered out... I copied this emcacl \\server\fs$\userprog\xxx /t /c /y /q /g SYSTEM:F OAAD\xxx:C when I paste it in any field I get emcacl $\\ /t /c /y /q /g SYSTEM:F OAAD\:C Tested on 3 systems (w2k, nt4, w2k3), MC and Rev, script editor + other fields + bugzilla time... but if you look at the clipboarddata[text] it is correct. now try it yourself, put the clipboarddata[html] to see the difference! The problem is that somewhere when Rev interprets the html it strips my text into emcacl $\\ /t /c /y /q /g SYSTEM:F OAAD\:C which quite obviously is not the same... In what way is it wrong? Copy some C code, and you'll get the same treatment when you paste it into a rev field (this was the problem I reported long ago to Scott 3 to 5 years ago... at least now, it's bugzillaed... In what way is that wrong? cheers Xavier MonsieurX.com - probably the biggest source of rev links, opensource stacks and bugzillas on earth! And some still don't believe me or think I care to report these things carefully and professionaly without testing... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:12 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Clipboard madness MisterX wrote: put the clipboarddata[text] -- contains the right information while put clipboarddata[html] -- is definitely wrong and should not be trusted... In what way is it wrong? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 22/09/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: activating a combobox
Ron, The only way I found to do this is to get the loc (with mouseLoc) of the arrow on the combo box, and then click at that loc. eg click at 283,194 HTH Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ron Noice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:36 AM Subject: activating a combobox I'm sure to win the Twit of the Day award for this, but cannot figure out how to automatically activate a combobox field (button, menu, whatever). I want to be able to select something from combo1, populate combo2 based on combo1 and then have combo2 automatically open without the user needing to click it. Everything is under control _except_ the automatic opening of combo2. How, please? Thanks. Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/107 - Release Date: 20/09/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: highlight and hide field from standalone
With 3D on - Outset bevel and Inset bevel in the inspector. Topcolor and bottomcolor in script. You probably have to make the border thicker than 2 to be able see the colour.(or may be it's just my eyes) HTH Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:39 PM Subject: Re: highlight and hide field from standalone Hi Bob, Hi Klaus Ok I thought of another thing. I'm playing with this one It seems quite nice. IMHO :-) On mouseup whgichone global field2delete if the controlkey is down then if whichone = 3 then put xyz into field2delete set the bordercolor of fld field2delete to red --this should make the border red but it does not??? --Q? any idea what the edge of a field is called? I tried changing all the --colours to red without any luck end if else exit to top end mouseup -- so pressing the right key when control is down puts the field into the --variable on deletekey global field2delete if the bordercolor of fld feld2delete is red then hide fld field2delete end deletekey --deletes the field only if the border is red :-) on escapekey set the bordercolor of fld field2delete to empty end escapekey --escape key clears the border colour so the delete key wont work :-) But now the problem I cant see the edge of the field being red but I can see it red in the object inspector. What is the boundary of a field cazlled if it is not the border colour? Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 15/09/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: An odd error
Dom, You have the variable name rubri twice in your list. That causes the shadow error. Pat. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 4:51 AM Subject: An odd error I had a handler which didn't worked... It seems that I had a local which caused the error: compiling at 5:26:43 PM Typelocal: name shadows another variable or constant Object Totaux Linelocal Lmontants,Lpos,Lentree,nbL,rubri,maliste,rubri,sortie Hintrubri The first time I see this sort of error ;-) -- Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 26/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Convert ColorNames to RGB
Todd, Help - Quick Reference Guides- Color Names Reference. Also Color Converters at http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk.htm a standalone http://www.sweattechnologies.com/rev/ You also need to look at the docs for this. I haven't used this one. HTH Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Todd Geist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:12 AM Subject: Convert ColorNames to RGB Does anybody know how to convert ColorNames to RGB values. As much as I like Medium Goldenrod, I need the RGB value for it :) Thanks! Todd -- Todd Geist __ G e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 26/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Dan's new ebook
I think I must have been the first to try out the new way to buy Dan's book and had a slight prob, so if you have been reading the prev emails this is to let you know that everything now is working fine. But, more importantly, to tell you if you don't have this book yet - then buy it now. I don't know what the equivalent is of can't put it down (maybe can't click the close box). There's not only a great deal of information, but it's great reading too. Well worth every cent. Great for newbies, in-betweens and oldies. A very happy customer. (normally a grumpy old woman - bitching about everything) Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: write fails
Jon, I think you need to open file before writing to it, or, alternatively use the put URL See the docs for detail. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: write fails I'm trying to log activity to a file with what I thought was a simple approach: put the date the long time m Return into s write s to file C:/RHOADS/EEOL2/Logs/log.txt at end The file is not created automatically; after creating the file manually, the file remains empty; the path was copy-and-pasted from Windows Explorer, so I know it is correct; the string s has reasonable contents as verified with the Variable Watcher; and there are no run-time errors. Any thoughts? :) Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/81 - Release Date: 24/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form, Upgrades Vol. 1
Dan, Just bought your new SmartEBook - but, the download is only 221 bytes. Help! Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form, Upgrades Vol. 1 Fellow Revolutionaries: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF ANNOUNCEMENT I know you're busy like me so I don't want to force you to wade through six paragraphs to get to the bottom-line message. Here are the highlights of this announcement: * Shafer Media is now selling an updated version of my Vol. 1 Software at the Speed of Thought as a SmartEBook (electronic form, other goodies included, self-updating) * All of my Rev books will be released as SmartEBooks, effective immediately. * While they last, printed copies of the old Vol. 1 are available through my store (http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html) for $24.95 + shipping handling, a savings of $12.05 over the old price. Now here's the deathless prose for those inclined to indulge: == While a formal announcement will be released on Tuesday, I wanted to give the amazing members of this iist a heads-up about some exciting news concerning the publication of my ongoing series of books about Revolution. RunRev and my company, Shafer Media, have agreed that Shafer Media will become the official press of Revolution and assume responsibility for publishing, marketing, and distribution of the current and future titles in my Software at the Speed of Thought series, effective immediately. At the same time, Shafer Media is announcing a new, revised and slightly expanded version of the first volume in what was once planned as a three-volume set of books. The new edition of that volume is now available in electronic form only from http:// www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html. Over 100 corrections and clarifications have been made in this new release in response to feedback from dozens of readers. This eBook is available through the Shafer Media Store right now for Windows and OSX for $29.95. (An OS 9 version may happen if we can resolve some technical glitches.) Not only that (I'm starting to sound like a Ginzu knife salesman here, I know, but there's lots to say), all of these eBooks -- including the two released topical eBooks on Rev as a CGI and Rev Custom Properties -- are being delivered using innovative new SmartEBooks(tm) technology. For you as a reader, this means that the eBooks will keep themselves current automatically when you open them, just like software does. It also means many SmartEBooks will consist not only of PDF files but also of accompanying audio video, text, and software code files (source and/or binary) in a single downloadable package. For example, Volume 1 of the Rev series, when delivered as a SmartEBook, has all of the major sample stacks and laboratory exercises included as Rev stacks you can run, tweak, take apart, play with, and learn from. RunRev will continue to sell the book as a SmartEBook via their site store. All other titles in the series will be available only through the Shafer Media Store (http://www.shafermediastore.com). What about printed books, you ask? Well, we still have a limited number of copies of the print edition avaialble for sale. They, of course, do not have the additions and corrections I made in the second edition being released today as a SmartEBook. We plan to offer a print-on-demand solution for those who want a hard copy of the second edition but we are still searching for a reliable, affordable outlet for that product. Stay tuned for another announcement soon. Meanwhile, I'm dropping the price on the remaining printed copies from $37 to $24.95 plus shipping handling while supplies last, which probably won't be long. ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/82 - Release Date: 25/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form, Upgrades Vol. 1
filename: Software_at_the_Speed_of_Thought.PDF 1KB Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Document XP Pro SP2IE 6.0.2900.2180 Tried 3 times with same result. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form,Upgrades Vol. 1 Pat. Hmmm. Something clearly went wrong here. Can you tell me what version of what OS you're running and what file name you got when you downloaded? I tested all of this eight ways from Sunday but there's always a ninth. dan On Aug 25, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Pat Trendler wrote: Dan, Just bought your new SmartEBook - but, the download is only 221 bytes. Help! Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form, Upgrades Vol. 1 Fellow Revolutionaries: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF ANNOUNCEMENT I know you're busy like me so I don't want to force you to wade through six paragraphs to get to the bottom-line message. Here are the highlights of this announcement: * Shafer Media is now selling an updated version of my Vol. 1 Software at the Speed of Thought as a SmartEBook (electronic form, other goodies included, self-updating) * All of my Rev books will be released as SmartEBooks, effective immediately. * While they last, printed copies of the old Vol. 1 are available through my store (http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html) for $24.95 + shipping handling, a savings of $12.05 over the old price. Now here's the deathless prose for those inclined to indulge: = === == While a formal announcement will be released on Tuesday, I wanted to give the amazing members of this iist a heads-up about some exciting news concerning the publication of my ongoing series of books about Revolution. RunRev and my company, Shafer Media, have agreed that Shafer Media will become the official press of Revolution and assume responsibility for publishing, marketing, and distribution of the current and future titles in my Software at the Speed of Thought series, effective immediately. At the same time, Shafer Media is announcing a new, revised and slightly expanded version of the first volume in what was once planned as a three-volume set of books. The new edition of that volume is now available in electronic form only from http:// www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html. Over 100 corrections and clarifications have been made in this new release in response to feedback from dozens of readers. This eBook is available through the Shafer Media Store right now for Windows and OSX for $29.95. (An OS 9 version may happen if we can resolve some technical glitches.) Not only that (I'm starting to sound like a Ginzu knife salesman here, I know, but there's lots to say), all of these eBooks -- including the two released topical eBooks on Rev as a CGI and Rev Custom Properties -- are being delivered using innovative new SmartEBooks(tm) technology. For you as a reader, this means that the eBooks will keep themselves current automatically when you open them, just like software does. It also means many SmartEBooks will consist not only of PDF files but also of accompanying audio video, text, and software code files (source and/or binary) in a single downloadable package. For example, Volume 1 of the Rev series, when delivered as a SmartEBook, has all of the major sample stacks and laboratory exercises included as Rev stacks you can run, tweak, take apart, play with, and learn from. RunRev will continue to sell the book as a SmartEBook via their site store. All other titles in the series will be available only through the Shafer Media Store (http://www.shafermediastore.com). What about printed books, you ask? Well, we still have a limited number of copies of the print edition avaialble for sale. They, of course, do not have the additions and corrections I made in the second edition being released today as a SmartEBook. We plan to offer a print-on-demand solution for those who want a hard copy of the second edition but we are still searching for a reliable, affordable outlet for that product. Stay tuned for another announcement soon. Meanwhile, I'm dropping the price on the remaining printed copies from $37 to $24.95 plus shipping handling while supplies last, which probably won't be long. ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http
Re: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form, Upgrades Vol. 1
Dan, Just got an email from Softseller (Roger Harris), saying sorry download link was incorrect and that he had fixed it. However, I still got the same result. Have emailed back to him. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form,Upgrades Vol. 1 Pat. Hmmm. Something clearly went wrong here. Can you tell me what version of what OS you're running and what file name you got when you downloaded? I tested all of this eight ways from Sunday but there's always a ninth. dan On Aug 25, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Pat Trendler wrote: Dan, Just bought your new SmartEBook - but, the download is only 221 bytes. Help! Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [ANN] Shafer Media Offers Dan's Books in New Form, Upgrades Vol. 1 Fellow Revolutionaries: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF ANNOUNCEMENT I know you're busy like me so I don't want to force you to wade through six paragraphs to get to the bottom-line message. Here are the highlights of this announcement: * Shafer Media is now selling an updated version of my Vol. 1 Software at the Speed of Thought as a SmartEBook (electronic form, other goodies included, self-updating) * All of my Rev books will be released as SmartEBooks, effective immediately. * While they last, printed copies of the old Vol. 1 are available through my store (http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html) for $24.95 + shipping handling, a savings of $12.05 over the old price. Now here's the deathless prose for those inclined to indulge: = === == While a formal announcement will be released on Tuesday, I wanted to give the amazing members of this iist a heads-up about some exciting news concerning the publication of my ongoing series of books about Revolution. RunRev and my company, Shafer Media, have agreed that Shafer Media will become the official press of Revolution and assume responsibility for publishing, marketing, and distribution of the current and future titles in my Software at the Speed of Thought series, effective immediately. At the same time, Shafer Media is announcing a new, revised and slightly expanded version of the first volume in what was once planned as a three-volume set of books. The new edition of that volume is now available in electronic form only from http:// www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html. Over 100 corrections and clarifications have been made in this new release in response to feedback from dozens of readers. This eBook is available through the Shafer Media Store right now for Windows and OSX for $29.95. (An OS 9 version may happen if we can resolve some technical glitches.) Not only that (I'm starting to sound like a Ginzu knife salesman here, I know, but there's lots to say), all of these eBooks -- including the two released topical eBooks on Rev as a CGI and Rev Custom Properties -- are being delivered using innovative new SmartEBooks(tm) technology. For you as a reader, this means that the eBooks will keep themselves current automatically when you open them, just like software does. It also means many SmartEBooks will consist not only of PDF files but also of accompanying audio video, text, and software code files (source and/or binary) in a single downloadable package. For example, Volume 1 of the Rev series, when delivered as a SmartEBook, has all of the major sample stacks and laboratory exercises included as Rev stacks you can run, tweak, take apart, play with, and learn from. RunRev will continue to sell the book as a SmartEBook via their site store. All other titles in the series will be available only through the Shafer Media Store (http://www.shafermediastore.com). What about printed books, you ask? Well, we still have a limited number of copies of the print edition avaialble for sale. They, of course, do not have the additions and corrections I made in the second edition being released today as a SmartEBook. We plan to offer a print-on-demand solution for those who want a hard copy of the second edition but we are still searching for a reliable, affordable outlet for that product. Stay tuned for another announcement soon. Meanwhile, I'm dropping the price on the remaining printed copies from $37 to $24.95 plus shipping handling while supplies last, which probably won't be long. ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software
Re: Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank
Possibly, you didn't give the stack a title in Basic Properties of the Stack Property Inspector. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank Hopefully someone can help with the following question. A created a Rev program using Mac and built a standalone for Windows. The program resides in a folder. On Windows, the name of the folder shows up in the program bar at the bottom of the screen, as it should. However, on opening the (.exe) program the name of the the .exe program is blank in the program bar. One user has mentioned that this could confuse people into thinking spyware or a virus is operating. The name of the program did not display in the Task Manager either. If anyone is interested in seeing the program it is available as a free download from www.medmaster.net. The program name is MedSearcher. It is the first Revolution program that I have published. It's designed to allow users to quickly search any of the major medical search engines. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to enable the name of the .exe file to show up in the program bar? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 19/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange message watcher window
Jon, Just resize the width (drag) of the window. I think from memory it stays put once you've done that. Not sure if this still happens in the latest build (108). You can also lose buttons on the script error window if it isn't wide enough - fooled me at first. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: strange message watcher window I'd not used the Message Watcher until this morning. I was a bit surprised to see the Clear button on top of what seemed to be a data entry field, and the data entry field lying on top of the Suppress button. Am I being too picky, or misunderstanding the UI? www.jonbondy.com/rev.jpg :) Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 19/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Decompile Windows RR application
Ton, This was on the list some time ago, can't remember who, I think it was Monte. I've used this myself a couple of times. on mouseUp answer file Standalone if it is cancel then exit to top put url (binfile:it) into tStack repeat forever -- there's more than one stackfile in there which isinteresting ;-) put offset(#!/bin/sh,char 10 to -1 of tStack) into tOff if tOff = 0 then exit repeat put char tOff+9 to -1 of tStack into tStack end repeat ask file Stack if it is cancel then exit to top set the fileType to RevoRSTK put tStack into url (binfile:it) answer conversion finished with OK end mouseUp When finished rename the stack with a rev extension. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ton Kuypers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:29 AM Subject: Decompile Windows RR application Hi gang, I've had a disk-crash a couple of months ago and lost almost all files on that disk. Among the lost files is also the RR source of a program I've created. The only thing I have is the windows exe file. Is there a way to decompile this back to a working RR project (or even just parts of it) or do I just start all over again? Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 2/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file / filter
Hi Martin, answer file Which file do you want to open? with filter *.txt HTH Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Martin Meili [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: answer file / filter Hi, I've got some code: answer file Which file do you want to open? Now, only files with the extension txt should be enabled in the opened window. I know, there should be a solution with the filter-command, but I can't manage to make this work. Can you help me? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 28/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: funtions on windows
I've just tried you script on Win XP Pro Rev 2.6. It returns the correct answer. Plural (3, Book) returns: 3 Books. Plural (0, Book) returns: no Books. Plural (1, Book) returns: 1 Book Doesn't seem like a bug in Win XP Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] function plural count, textw if count 1 then put s after textw if count = 0 then put no into count return count textw end plural --- works perfectly on Rev 2.6 on Mac G4 with OSX 10.3.9. However it does not work on Rev. 2.6 on Windows XP ( when called : Plural ( 3, Book) it returns ( 3 s) only again is this a bug on the XP version ?! any idea ? Muaadh Salih [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- All the best Muaadh Salih SOAS Department of Near Middle Eastern Studies Tel . +44 (0)2078984354 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images
Jon, If it is any help, the balls are buttons with icons. See in the property inspector(for any of the balls) - icons borders, click on the little wand thingey by the icon and id no., choose this stack from the drop down menu and see all the ball icons. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: images I'm still fiddling with the Nine Ball With Spin game. I want to modify the ball images, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that. I figured out where the images were, in a graphic, but can't figure out any way to actually see the image, save it modify it, load it, etc. Any hints? The property Inspector seems useless in this situation, which seems strange. Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images
Jon, Sorry, forgot to tell you how to get a copy of the image, which is what you actually asked. Use export. on mouseUp export image scottRed7.png to file ball7.png as PNG end mouseUp This will save the image into the same folder as the stack. You can give a filepath if you want, and save in whatever format you want. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: Re: images Jon, If it is any help, the balls are buttons with icons. See in the property inspector(for any of the balls) - icons borders, click on the little wand thingey by the icon and id no., choose this stack from the drop down menu and see all the ball icons. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: images I'm still fiddling with the Nine Ball With Spin game. I want to modify the ball images, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that. I figured out where the images were, in a graphic, but can't figure out any way to actually see the image, save it modify it, load it, etc. Any hints? The property Inspector seems useless in this situation, which seems strange. Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the object you are editing... Huh?
Tim, I've tried various other ways to try and force that error msg to appear. Just couldn't get it to happen. Your explanation for your case is probably right. Re top posting, I don't know. I've seen this discussion on other lists, and after everybody has had their say - they all go back to whatever they were doing in the first place. Personally, I prefer top posting. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: Re: the object you are editing... Huh? Hi Pat, Thanks for your kind attempt to help. No, those are not the circumstances. That's why it seemed inexplicable. The circumstances you describe would make sense to me. I might have found the source of the problem, though. There was a handler in this bg left over from Hypercard: On closefield put me into me pass closeField end closefield This might seem insane, but it worked great in HC. The purpose? I often paste text from other sources into fields in this bg. I want the pasted text to lose its original attributes and take on those assigned to text in the field I am pasting into. I have a hunch Rev choked on this one. Maybe because the script editor is another stack. I suppose the script editor is in the hierarchy when I'm editing a script. Or something... I commented out this handler, and a couple of other suspicious ones, but this is the prime candidate. No problems since then. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Any thoughts? Best regards, Tim BTW -- Is it okay to top post on this list? Or does anyone care? I just want to follow the rules. Tim, The only time I have seen this msg is if the stack has been closed and removed from memory, but the script editor for the object is still open and I have tried to make changes. Is that when the msg occurs for you, or does it happen under different circumstances? Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: the object you are editing... Huh? At unpredictable times, when trying to edit a script -- the script of a card field at the moment -- I get an error message I can't understand. I'm doing all the logical obvious things that a moderately competent novice would do, before and after encountering this error message. They aren't working. The message: The object you are editing appears to have been removed or deleted. Do you want to copy the text you are editing to the clipboard before closing this script? The two response buttons in the error dialog box are copy and close and close --What am I doing wrong? --What is the significance of this error message? It must occur for a good reason, but I can't figure it out. Thanks to all those who have generously offered assistance in the past week or two. Cheers, Tim ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: compileIt for revolution?
Do you have Revolution Dreamcard? You need Revolution Studio, or better, and you can then make a standalone compiled app. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Eric Engle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:48 AM Subject: compileIt for revolution? Is there any chance that Heizer/Royalsoft (or anyone else for that matter) will make a script compiler for revolution like compileIt? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the object you are editing... Huh?
Tim, The only time I have seen this msg is if the stack has been closed and removed from memory, but the script editor for the object is still open and I have tried to make changes. Is that when the msg occurs for you, or does it happen under different circumstances? Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: the object you are editing... Huh? At unpredictable times, when trying to edit a script -- the script of a card field at the moment -- I get an error message I can't understand. I'm doing all the logical obvious things that a moderately competent novice would do, before and after encountering this error message. They aren't working. The message: The object you are editing appears to have been removed or deleted. Do you want to copy the text you are editing to the clipboard before closing this script? The two response buttons in the error dialog box are copy and close and close --What am I doing wrong? --What is the significance of this error message? It must occur for a good reason, but I can't figure it out. Thanks to all those who have generously offered assistance in the past week or two. Cheers, Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stop a repeat script
try: ctrl - fullstop (. period) Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Damien Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: Stop a repeat script Hi all, I have done an error with a repeat script, and I want to stop it (I am under the Runrev IDE), but I didn't know how I stop a repeat forever script launched.(Runrev are blocked, I cannot done everything) Thanks Damien Girard Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: value function fails for multi-line input
Dick, a is a string not the variable a either of the following lines will work: put value (a) cr (b) put value (a) cr value (b) into c; put value(c) But, really, you can just say: put a cr b into c put c Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dick Kriesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:35 PM Subject: value function fails for multi-line input Each of the following causes the 2.6 engine on Mac OS X 10.4.1 to report error executing expression: put value( a cr b) put a cr b into c; put value(c) set the lineDelimiter to |; put value(a|b) In contrast, the following succeeds: set the lineDelimiter to _; put value(a_b) If you¹d like to add votes, please see BugZilla 2904. -- Dick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: TAB and SHIFT-TAB
Rishi, One reason that I know of, is if TraversalOn is Off. But, you may have unchecked TraversalOn for a good reason - so that may not be your answer in this case. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rishi Viner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:04 PM Subject: TAB and SHIFT-TAB Hi All, Tabbing through the fields on my stack works well, but I can't seem to get Shift-Tab to work (would normally go back through the tab order). Is this supposed to work in Rev? If so how do you enable it? Cheers, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to open a stack using the Player under linux...
Rishi, On the revOnline viewer click on the little icon that looks like a folder(top right of window), and browse to the file you want to open. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rishi Viner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:31 PM Subject: How to open a stack using the Player under linux... I am trying to open a .rev stack in linux using the Rev Dreamcard Player. Double clicking on them does nothing. Trying to run from the command prompt like this: ./MyStack.rev just causes Midnight Commander to run (a command line file manager program with run command 'mc'). Stack made using Rev Dreamcard 2.5.1. Using Dreamcard Player 2.5.1. Also trying this at the command prompt: revolution_dreamcard_player MyStack.rev causes the player to start up and display the online help page but not my stack. How is this supposed to work? Thanks in advance, -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to runrev.com - is it just me ?
Have had no problems here. Have you tried http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com I believe there are other ways to search the lists, but can't recall them offhand. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Connecting to runrev.com - is it just me ? For the last couple of weeks, it's getting more more difficult to connect to runrev.com (I need to check the list archives)... Is it just me or what ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Watching my Variables
Martin, Yes, it certainly wouldn't work in your example. The global would have to exist in the first place to have a value even if it was empty. I'm interested in how you are using 'do' here. Is the saved file a rev stack with the globals stored as custom properties, or is it a txt file. How do you use the 'do'? Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Martin BLACKMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Watching my Variables I ran into a similar problem trying to save and recall a file for the program I am writing. The thing is I want my standalone to be able to open a saved file and along with data it should restore the values of all the global variables. So the way I though of is to store the globalnames together with their values in the save file. And to open a file and restore the values of global vars I use the 'do' form as expressed by Dennis. In such a case the method used by Pat would not work (of course it can be used for other purposes). The documentation says that 'do' is quite slow as it compiles in real time. Its not too slow for me but I'm not loading a terribly big file. Martin Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:11:41 +1000 From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Watching my Variables To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Just thought I'd show another way of doing this. I always get mixed up with where to put the when using those do things. putvalue(item x of varNames) cr after tList Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] I ran into the same problem. I solved it with the do command do put myVariableNameIsInHere Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Watching my Variables
Just thought I'd show another way of doing this. I always get mixed up with where to put the when using those do things. putvalue(item x of varNames) cr after tList Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] I ran into the same problem. I solved it with the do command do put myVariableNameIsInHere Dennis - Original Message - From: Derek Bump [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Watching my Variables I am updating my Error Reporting script to include all variable information (Local, Global, etc) and I am wondering how I would get the contents of a variable who's name is held within a variable? Just analyze the script below and you'll see what I mean... -- Globals put crcr Global Variables... cr after theMessage put globalNames() into varNames repeat with x=1 to the number of items in varNames putline x of varNames after theMessage put variableContents(line x of varNames) cr after theMessage end repeat Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress 2.6.1 http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how do I write my own function?
Click the Documentation icon, Topics, and then filter with: function. Under Commands and Functions look at How do I write your own commands and functions? also Function control structure which may be more useful. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: t [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: how do I write my own function? hi, how do I write my own function? thanx, -- t ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
changing value of arrays in debugger
You can't change the value of array elements [or at least, I couldn't find a way] in the variable watcher like you can with variables. You can, however, change the value using the msg box. A bit tedious though, as you have to type the full line instead of just the value. And if you look at my previous post seeing arrays in the variable watcher. Yes, you can see them. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: changing value of arrays in debugger
I should have mentioned that when you change the value via the message box, you have to click on the array name in the variable watcher again to see the change. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: changing value of arrays in debugger You can't change the value of array elements [or at least, I couldn't find a way] in the variable watcher like you can with variables. You can, however, change the value using the msg box. A bit tedious though, as you have to type the full line instead of just the value. And if you look at my previous post seeing arrays in the variable watcher. Yes, you can see them. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher
Did you click on testArrayA? - you have to do that to get it to display. - Original Message - From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher I tried the code below and the variable watcher shows blank for testArrayA I don't see what you are seeing. Tom On Jun 8, 2005, at 1:50 AM, Pat Trendler wrote: I don't know if I'm misunderstanding this. But, if I run the handler below, in the variable watcher I can see : left paneright pane testArrayA array in the panes below [1]test1 [2]test2 [3]test3 if the contents don't show, clicking on the name shows them. You may have to move the dividers to see the different panes. What else should I be able to see? Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher the usual array test in a button... on mouseUp global testArrayA put test1 into testArrayA[1] put test2 into testArrayA[2] put test3 into testArrayA[3] repeat with n = 1 to 3 put testArrayA[n] return after theOut end repeat put theOut end mouseUp returns in the msg... test1 test2 test2 but I don't see anything different in the variable watcher. Under what conditions does one 'see' the arrays values in Rev 2.6?? stephen barncard At 7:43 PM -0500 6/7/05, Ken Ray wrote: Sorry, but one of the things I like about the debugger is that you can select and/or change values of a variable while you're debugging. You (a) can't do that with array element values, and (b) if your element contains more than one line, you only see the first line in the debugger and there's no way to see anything else. Don't get me wrong - I'm happy to see arrays in the debugger, but I think it didn't go far enough, IMHO. Ken Ray ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher
Tom, Sorry, this is about 2.6. You are using 2.6? Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: Re: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher Did you click on testArrayA? - you have to do that to get it to display. - Original Message - From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher I tried the code below and the variable watcher shows blank for testArrayA I don't see what you are seeing. Tom On Jun 8, 2005, at 1:50 AM, Pat Trendler wrote: I don't know if I'm misunderstanding this. But, if I run the handler below, in the variable watcher I can see : left paneright pane testArrayA array in the panes below [1]test1 [2]test2 [3]test3 if the contents don't show, clicking on the name shows them. You may have to move the dividers to see the different panes. What else should I be able to see? Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher the usual array test in a button... on mouseUp global testArrayA put test1 into testArrayA[1] put test2 into testArrayA[2] put test3 into testArrayA[3] repeat with n = 1 to 3 put testArrayA[n] return after theOut end repeat put theOut end mouseUp returns in the msg... test1 test2 test2 but I don't see anything different in the variable watcher. Under what conditions does one 'see' the arrays values in Rev 2.6?? stephen barncard At 7:43 PM -0500 6/7/05, Ken Ray wrote: Sorry, but one of the things I like about the debugger is that you can select and/or change values of a variable while you're debugging. You (a) can't do that with array element values, and (b) if your element contains more than one line, you only see the first line in the debugger and there's no way to see anything else. Don't get me wrong - I'm happy to see arrays in the debugger, but I think it didn't go far enough, IMHO. Ken Ray ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bouncy Updated for 2.6
I have 20 or so Bouncies flying around the screen going pop, pop, ... Nothing stops them. They're bouncing off one another. I've tried every key combination I can think of, yes, including escape. So I am going to escape for a couple of hours and hope they wear themselves out. Of course I could give them the three finger salute - but where's the scary fun in that. Is this revenge for Intel. Pat (cross eyed and gone deaf - well, more so than usual) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Use-Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Bouncy Updated for 2.6 I've updated the Bouncy stack with the Revolution graphic for 2.6. It now happily bounces around the screen with a deep mask. The engine handles it very nicely (disclaimer: handles it nicely on my 1ghz PowerBook. Please let me know how it behaves on older hardware). Use this command in the message box in 2.6 to see it: go url http://www.inspiredlogic.com/rev/bouncy2.rev; Make sure you select the browse tool, and then fling it! For those who don't remember, bouncy is a windowshaped stack that can be tossed around the screen. It bounces off the bottom and sides, and makes a noise when it does. There is gravity and a slight friction, so eventually it will slow and stop. The top of the screen is left open. With practice you can fling the window so high it will take many seconds to reappear on screen. I wrote the first iteration of bouncy while waiting for a plane. I didn't expect it to run too well, but it surprised me. Now it has surprised me again. Even with a deep mask on a roughly 200x700 pixel stack, it not only works smoothly, it works smoothly with twenty of those stacks going nuts on screen Features include (not all tested under 2.6, let me know if you hit issues): -- Grab and throw in any direction. -- Drag and drop wherever you like. -- Shift-drag to slingshot. Some people find it hard to throw bouncy. The answer is to hold down the shift key, click and drag bouncy. When you let go bouncy will slingshot quickly toward where you started dragging from. -- Option-click bouncy to create a clone of the stack. There is no limit to the number of copies you can create. As you create more and more they will eventually get jumpier as you throw them all, but twenty copies of bouncy all going at once works fine on my computer. -- Command-click to paint bouncy at random. Works better for changing a solid color to another solid color (it uses the paint bucket tool) so not so applicable any more. -- Drag an image file onto bouncy to set the image and shape. Accepts .png and .gif -- Drag a sound file onto bouncy to set the sound bouncy makes when it hits the wall. Accepts .wav and .aiff -- Hold down the Escape key to stop all copies of bouncy and position them on screen. NEW -- staggers them when it repositions them. They used to all pile at the same location. -- Command-C to copy bouncy's script. This is more for when bouncy is distributed as an application. Bouncy is a little under two hundred lines of code, reasonably clear and commented. I'd show it to my mother, anyway. ;-) If anyone wants bouncy as an app, let me know. Regards, Geoff Canyon Inspired Logic ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bouncy Updated for 2.6
No. I was trying to catch them - they were too fast. Had to kill them in the end - I did feel sorry about that. Escape didn't work on windows. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Bouncy Updated for 2.6 Pat, You didn't feed them? Did you? Tom Escape worked here for me. On Jun 7, 2005, at 5:25 AM, Pat Trendler wrote: I have 20 or so Bouncies flying around the screen going pop, pop, ... Nothing stops them. They're bouncing off one another. I've tried every key combination I can think of, yes, including escape. So I am going to escape for a couple of hours and hope they wear themselves out. Of course I could give them the three finger salute - but where's the scary fun in that. Is this revenge for Intel. Pat (cross eyed and gone deaf - well, more so than usual) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Use-Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Bouncy Updated for 2.6 I've updated the Bouncy stack with the Revolution graphic for 2.6. It now happily bounces around the screen with a deep mask. The engine handles it very nicely (disclaimer: handles it nicely on my 1ghz PowerBook. Please let me know how it behaves on older hardware). Use this command in the message box in 2.6 to see it: go url http://www.inspiredlogic.com/rev/bouncy2.rev; Make sure you select the browse tool, and then fling it! For those who don't remember, bouncy is a windowshaped stack that can be tossed around the screen. It bounces off the bottom and sides, and makes a noise when it does. There is gravity and a slight friction, so eventually it will slow and stop. The top of the screen is left open. With practice you can fling the window so high it will take many seconds to reappear on screen. I wrote the first iteration of bouncy while waiting for a plane. I didn't expect it to run too well, but it surprised me. Now it has surprised me again. Even with a deep mask on a roughly 200x700 pixel stack, it not only works smoothly, it works smoothly with twenty of those stacks going nuts on screen Features include (not all tested under 2.6, let me know if you hit issues): -- Grab and throw in any direction. -- Drag and drop wherever you like. -- Shift-drag to slingshot. Some people find it hard to throw bouncy. The answer is to hold down the shift key, click and drag bouncy. When you let go bouncy will slingshot quickly toward where you started dragging from. -- Option-click bouncy to create a clone of the stack. There is no limit to the number of copies you can create. As you create more and more they will eventually get jumpier as you throw them all, but twenty copies of bouncy all going at once works fine on my computer. -- Command-click to paint bouncy at random. Works better for changing a solid color to another solid color (it uses the paint bucket tool) so not so applicable any more. -- Drag an image file onto bouncy to set the image and shape. Accepts .png and .gif -- Drag a sound file onto bouncy to set the sound bouncy makes when it hits the wall. Accepts .wav and .aiff -- Hold down the Escape key to stop all copies of bouncy and position them on screen. NEW -- staggers them when it repositions them. They used to all pile at the same location. -- Command-C to copy bouncy's script. This is more for when bouncy is distributed as an application. Bouncy is a little under two hundred lines of code, reasonably clear and commented. I'd show it to my mother, anyway. ;-) If anyone wants bouncy as an app, let me know. Regards, Geoff Canyon Inspired Logic ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Chapter on printing?
Dan, I know this is a long time since it has been mentioned. But, have you given up on writing the chapter on printing? Just thought I would ask:) Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Chapter on printing?
Thanks Dan, That's all I needed to know. Will wait patiently now. I cut up my credit cards more than twenty years ago - got one recently just so I could get your other two chapters. Well worth it. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Chapter on printing? Not at all. Sorting out business issues and waiting to see 2.6. I expect to finish it this week or early next now. Yeah, I know. Heard that before. I've always meant it. But the best- laid plans On Jun 7, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Pat Trendler wrote: Dan, I know this is a long time since it has been mentioned. But, have you given up on writing the chapter on printing? Just thought I would ask:) Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher
I don't know if I'm misunderstanding this. But, if I run the handler below, in the variable watcher I can see : left paneright pane testArrayA array in the panes below [1]test1 [2]test2 [3]test3 if the contents don't show, clicking on the name shows them. You may have to move the dividers to see the different panes. What else should I be able to see? Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: 'seeing' arrays in the variable watcher the usual array test in a button... on mouseUp global testArrayA put test1 into testArrayA[1] put test2 into testArrayA[2] put test3 into testArrayA[3] repeat with n = 1 to 3 put testArrayA[n] return after theOut end repeat put theOut end mouseUp returns in the msg... test1 test2 test2 but I don't see anything different in the variable watcher. Under what conditions does one 'see' the arrays values in Rev 2.6?? stephen barncard At 7:43 PM -0500 6/7/05, Ken Ray wrote: Sorry, but one of the things I like about the debugger is that you can select and/or change values of a variable while you're debugging. You (a) can't do that with array element values, and (b) if your element contains more than one line, you only see the first line in the debugger and there's no way to see anything else. Don't get me wrong - I'm happy to see arrays in the debugger, but I think it didn't go far enough, IMHO. Ken Ray ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: bug
After Step 11 this time - msg window now says 122 Pat Did you (or could you, please) try the sequence one more time. This time, do not try the ctrl-S after step 8, which should be equivalent to what I am able to do. So simply do ... 8. edit the script, replacing 2 by 3 9. click on the window border of the main stack 10. in the main menu, select File/Save [or hit ctrl-S] (and see / click to remove the saving ... box) 11. run it again - msg window now says 12? Thanks, -- Alex. - Original Message - From: Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:44 PM Subject: Re: bug Pat Trendler wrote: I ran twice just to make sure. Win XP Rev 2.5.1 Step 8. Ctrl-S worked OK. Apply btn was greyed out. Interesting. Wonder why it doesn't work on my machines (same on both XP machines I have here - and I think it was the same on my old Win2000 machine, but can't confirm it till I get home at the end of the week ...) Step 11. Msg box was 123. Apply btn no longer active. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Slider appearence
Buddy, Go to Development - Revolution Online - User Spaces - Klausimausi - custom volume slider. Could be what you want. Pat - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Slider appearence I was wondering, if there was a way to change the appearance of a slider bar, for example, making bar an image that you made and the dot you drag too? Or does it have to be like its original look? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Be Young Again not about Newton
I STIL HAEV A POW3RBOK 145B STIL WORKS CLARISWORKS 2 HYPERCARD 231!11!1 OMG WTF LOL NO WEB NO 3MALE 4MB MAMORY 40 MB DISK - JUST A V3RY HEAVY HANDHELD TAHTS AL!!!1 OMG WTF I LOVA IT!!1 OMG LOL PAT AT PIGBONDCOM!1!11! WTF LOL - Original Message - From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: Re: To Be Young Again On 6/1/05 10:24 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: DUDA THIS HAS ALWAYS BEN ON3 OF MAH FAVORIET SIETS1!!!1 OMG WTF LOL (Dude, this has always been one of my favorite sites.) http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html Cool. :) THEIR R 10 KINDS OF PEOPL3 IN TEH WORLD - THOS3 WHO UND3RSTAND BINARY AND THOSE WHO DONT!11!!! WTF LOL -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Background behavior
Use place background. (see place in dictionary) Make the group on the first card you want it to appear. Set its background behaviour to true. Then something like: repeat with x = 2 to 5 go to card x place background mygroup onto this card end repeat Any new card made directly after card 5 (in this example) will also have the new group. HTH Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: Background behavior Hi all, how do I add a back ground behavior group on a stack that has many cards already and I need it should appear on the cards that already exist (if possible) ? Hershel Fisch ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tree-structure display
Bob, I'm using a PC and had this problem too. I commented out the 2 message lines below. Now it works (I think). In the card script on readrelations first line -- put empty into message on showparents third line -- put _ tid cr after message Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Tree-structure display You wrote: Hi THere. I cant get this to do anything. All I get are messageboxes; is this mac only? Cheers Bob; Glasgow Dear all, I needed a way to organise keywords I use to organize my bookmarks. It didn't take me more than an afternoon (very long afternoon) to come up with: go stack url http://revolution.lexicall.org/stacks/education/presentation_tools/tree_structure.rev; The complexity is in the organization (using principles discovered in books about relational databases like mysql), the coding was suprisingly easy. Gee, I wouldn't even have thought of starting to code this with any other language. On the education list, Judy mentioned some were predicting a chip to directly connect to your brain in 2014. Well, I teach in cognitive neurosciences, that may have to wait longer (I mean, a chip that understand your thoughts). Still, revolution is the closest I know from this chip... once you have identified the solution to your problem in your mind it's only a matter of hours (rather than days or weeks) to have that solution implemented as a computer program. If you notice any problem, feel free to fix it (I am not a professional, I develop tools useful to me; I cannot really afford the time it would take to make it 100% reliable for users other than myself). Feel free to use it for the design of an outliner tool or whatever else you facny. (The stack is distributed as share alike). Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [INFO] Javascript Colors list....(OT)
Synopsis is at: http://www.codemorphis.com/ Ben also mentions Limnor as being better (but mistakenly thinks that it is free) http://www.limnor.com/ Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [INFO] Javascript Colors list(OT) Where did you find synopsis? I was looking out of curiosity, but reached the limit of my google skilz. On May 27, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Jim MacConnell wrote: I checked Synopsis (since someone mentioned your clock face example alluded to it ) and it's Windows only? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with ShutDownRequest
I seem to remember having this problem awhile ago. I used closestackRequest in the stack being saved as a file/document.. HTH Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Howard Bornstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:26 AM Subject: Problems with ShutDownRequest One of my apps is not processing ShutDownRequest properly, but it's very complex, so I decided to build a simple test stack. I'm seeing the same thing with it. All my testing is done after building a standalone from the stack. I start out with a main stack. The main stack has this handler: on ShutDownRequest answer Really, Really Quit? with No or Quit if it is Quit then pass ShutDownRequest end ShutDownRequest If I run the main stack and choose Quit, I get the answer dialog and everything works as expected. Now, I've put a button on the main stack that creates a new stack and places this handler in its stack script: on ShutDownRequest send ShutDownRequest to stack Quit Test -- my main stack end ShutDownRequest If I click this button, thus creating the new stack, and then choose Quit, I again get the answer dialog and everything works fine. If that stack is frontmost, it sends the ShutDownRequest to my other stack which puts up the dialog. Here's the problem. If I close the second stack (the one created by the button) and then create a another one (by clicking the button again), THIS TIME, if I select Quit, the standalone quits, closing both stacks without giving me the answer dialog. For some reason, creating a stack, closing it, and creating a new one causes the Rev engine to bypass the ShutDownRequest handlers completely. Why? If I can't trap shutDownRequest, my clients will lose all their data if they choose Quit without saving their document. What am I missing? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CustomProperties function returns zilch
answer the customKeys of this stack gives a list of the names of the custom properties HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Thomas McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: CustomProperties function returns zilch I got a stack with a bunch of custom properties (a number of which are holding data) and this: answer the customProperties of this stack returns zilch -- a number equal to my patience :-) Is this broken? Mac OSX 10.3.9/Rev 2.5.1 tom ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CustomProperties function returns zilch
OK. I just checked the docs and you may need this info as well:- Important! If the object has more than one custom property set, you must set the customPropertySet to the correct set before checking the customKeys. The following example lists all the custom properties in a graphic: put the customKeys of graphic 1 into myCustomProps answer myCustomProps Pat - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: Re: CustomProperties function returns zilch answer the customKeys of this stack gives a list of the names of the custom properties HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Thomas McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: CustomProperties function returns zilch I got a stack with a bunch of custom properties (a number of which are holding data) and this: answer the customProperties of this stack returns zilch -- a number equal to my patience :-) Is this broken? Mac OSX 10.3.9/Rev 2.5.1 tom ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: help on adding value in temp variable
Paul, put value (tAddTo) + (tfkey) into tvar1 I checked to make certain and this works OK. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Paul Salyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: help on adding value in temp variable Dear Rev Programmer, I found the below commands (the value) in a program basic calculator and the command without value in Rev Documentations of which neither works. put value (tAddTo + tfkey) into tvar1 put tAddTo + tfkey into tvar1 I do have numbers stored in both variables. Any clue why they are not working? Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouseDown and within
Just another thought, you can use - if the mouse is down for example as in the following (a bit sloppy scripting but it does work OK) on mouseMove if the mouse is down then repeat with i = 1 to 4 if the mouseLoc is within the rect of btn i then set the backgroundcolor of btn i to blue end if end repeat end if end mouseMove Correction to my previous mail I should have said you can get mouseStillDown if the handler is in the script of the target btn. Pat - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Re: mouseDown and within Tom, You can get mouseStillDown if it's in the target btn and also you can always get the mouseloc. A bit of fiddling with these two should get you what you want. HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: mouseDown and within Hello all, I have a few buttons and when the mouse is down over a button the background turns blue. This is good. Now I want to have the other buttons turn blue by still holding the mouseDown but moving it over the other buttons and when it is over them that they will act like a mouseDown has been sent to them. I have tried mouseDown, mouseStillDown, mouseWithin, mouseEnter etc. No luck, I might be able to do a mouseOver (SC) but prefer the mouseDown if possible. Does anyone know a way to do this Thanks in advance Tom Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouseDown and within
Tom, You can get mouseStillDown if it's in the target btn and also you can always get the mouseloc. A bit of fiddling with these two should get you what you want. HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: mouseDown and within Hello all, I have a few buttons and when the mouse is down over a button the background turns blue. This is good. Now I want to have the other buttons turn blue by still holding the mouseDown but moving it over the other buttons and when it is over them that they will act like a mouseDown has been sent to them. I have tried mouseDown, mouseStillDown, mouseWithin, mouseEnter etc. No luck, I might be able to do a mouseOver (SC) but prefer the mouseDown if possible. Does anyone know a way to do this Thanks in advance Tom Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keypress Help
Win XP Pro SP2 etc All keys detected except those you wouldn't expect to detect: Power, Sleep and WakeUp. Pat - Original Message - From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Keypress Help Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote: How can one reliably tell on Windows when a key is pressed versus when it is released? Are you sure you don't have your operating systems backwards? ;) In my experience, it has always been Mac OS that doesn't generate accurate keyUp messages. Windows has always worked for me. That is an OS limitation, as Macs send keyup immediately after keydown, regardless of the physical state of the key itself. Or at least, that's how it has always been in the past. Thanks for the response Jacque. But I wonder if you might be thinking about OS9. OSX works great for me. When I run the following simple test stack on MacOS, it works as expected: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/keytracker.rev; Enable the test button and press one/some keys. The pressed keys are shown and [empty] is displayed when nothing is pressed. When this is run on WindowsXP, I get a mostly empty result, that flickers between the pressed keys and [empty]. The keysDown function is apparently not working because it doesn't seem to reliably return the keys that are pressed (my understanding is the keysDown function was originally designed to get around this whole key detection problem). Does this work for you on Windows (or anyone else for that matter)? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keypress Help
And of course those keys which remove the hilite from the btn Space and Return. - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Keypress Help Win XP Pro SP2 etc All keys detected except those you wouldn't expect to detect: Power, Sleep and WakeUp. Pat - Original Message - From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Keypress Help Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote: How can one reliably tell on Windows when a key is pressed versus when it is released? Are you sure you don't have your operating systems backwards? ;) In my experience, it has always been Mac OS that doesn't generate accurate keyUp messages. Windows has always worked for me. That is an OS limitation, as Macs send keyup immediately after keydown, regardless of the physical state of the key itself. Or at least, that's how it has always been in the past. Thanks for the response Jacque. But I wonder if you might be thinking about OS9. OSX works great for me. When I run the following simple test stack on MacOS, it works as expected: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/keytracker.rev; Enable the test button and press one/some keys. The pressed keys are shown and [empty] is displayed when nothing is pressed. When this is run on WindowsXP, I get a mostly empty result, that flickers between the pressed keys and [empty]. The keysDown function is apparently not working because it doesn't seem to reliably return the keys that are pressed (my understanding is the keysDown function was originally designed to get around this whole key detection problem). Does this work for you on Windows (or anyone else for that matter)? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and .swf
And, experience has largely shown me that it is the squeaking wheel that gets the grease rather sooner than later. Judy. Or it gets replaced with maintenance free ball-bearing wheels ;) cheers Xavier You mean like those on the shopping carts in supermarkets that go everywhere except where you want them to, or don't go at all. ;} Pat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Intercepting shutdown attempts
on closestackrequest works for me. Pat - Original Message - From: Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Intercepting shutdown attempts I have an app that needs to save some data before the app quits. When the users quits from the menu (or shortcut), it's easy - but I can't seem to find out if they quit by clicking the 'close' (X) box in the window decorations. I read about shutdown and shutdownrequest messages in the docs - so I added handlers for those to the stack's script - but they don't seem to be invoked. The stack script now looks like on shutdown answer shutdown end shutdown on shutdownrequest answer shutdownrequest end shutdownrequest When I quit via the menu (which uses the quit command), it calls the shutdownrequest handler - but not when I click on the close (X) icon. Am I missing something obvious here ? -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.2 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Greenhouse effect on Venus
You may also see the script editor 'cos Jim forgot to clear the breakpoints. Just go to the development menu and clear the breakpoints. If you then get script errors just close them and do a save. You may need to close and remove from memory and then reopen. Pat Original Message - From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Greenhouse effect on Venus Recently, Rick Harrison wrote: go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/GreenhouseEffect2.rev; And look for the preferences under the Help menu. Jim Jim, Why do I get a page full of code and garbage when I go to this website? Is this code suppose to execute as a website stack or a downloadable one? This is not a Web URL but rather a line of code to be executed in your message box, quotes and all: go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/GreenhouseEffect2.rev; Online stacks are a wonderful way to share. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user-movable fields
Sandy, This doesn't quite work. You need: on mousedown thebutton if thebutton is 3 then grab me end mousedown See Jeanne's email and the docs for mousedown in an unlocked field (right click for Win, control click Mac) It probably seemed to work for you because you were using the pointer tool in the IDE. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: user-movable fields Thank you all! I just put a demo of the user-movable fields, and an example of how it might be useful, in the user spaces of revonline-- User movable fields, under programming. This is so cool-- when I first thought of it this morning, I figured it would take arduous programming. Amazing. Smart Rev--very RAD. Sandy (aka Troutfoot) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user-movable fields?
So, if you only want to let the user move the field, but not move or copy the text, would you use on dragStart end dragStart on mousedown thebutton if thebutton is 3 then grab me end mousedown This works, but just wondered if this was the right way. Pat - Original Message - From: Signe Marie Sanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: Re: user-movable fields? Jeanne A. E. DeVoto skrev: At 2:11 PM -0400 4/5/05, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Is the control key behavior just in the IDE or will it work in a standalone? Don't we need to code the control behavior for a standalone? No: Control-clicking (or right-clicking) an unlocked field sends mouseDown, mouseUp, etc. instead of opening the field for editing. This is built-in behavior of fields. (There's a note in the docs for mouseDown and mouseUp.) Surprise surprise... when you select the text in an unlocked field and drag it to another unlocked field, you move the text to this new field. When control-clicking and dragging you put a copy of the text into the new field. (This is on Windows.) There are always new things to learn! Regards Signe Marie Sanne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user-movable fields
Sandy, I hadn't built a windows standalone (win xp pro), but seeing your question, I've just tried it out. With just grab me in the mouseup: right click does move just the field. selecting text and left click drags the text. selecting text and control left click drags amd copies the text. With just grab me in the mouseup (if thebutton is 3 not needed) and on/end dragStart: right click moves only the field. text cannot be moved or copied with or without control key. HTH Pat - Original Message - From: SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:15 AM Subject: Re: user-movable fields Hi Pat and Signe, Hmmm, maybe I'm missing something, but the original code seems to work OK to move the fields either in the IDE or a standalone on OS X. Is this not true in Windows? I just had a big Windows problem in another area, so want to know these things early! thanks, Sandy This doesn't quite work. You need: on mousedown thebutton if thebutton is 3 then grab me end mousedown See Jeanne's email and the docs for mousedown in an unlocked field (right click for Win, control click Mac) It probably seemed to work for you because you were using the pointer tool in the IDE. Pat ... So, if you only want to let the user move the field, but not move or copy the text, would you use on dragStart end dragStart on mousedown thebutton if thebutton is 3 then grab me end mousedown This works, but just wondered if this was the right way. Pat Surprise surprise... when you select the text in an unlocked field and drag it to another unlocked field, you move the text to this new field. When control-clicking and dragging you put a copy of the text into the new field. (This is on Windows.) There are always new things to learn! Regards Signe Marie Sanne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is there a list of the keyboard shortcuts in the documentation?
help/quick reference/shortcut reference. Pat - Original Message - From: Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Use-Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Is there a list of the keyboard shortcuts in the documentation? Anyone? I looked and looked and couldn't find anything under: keyboard shortcuts keys Seems an obvious one. A noob asked me offline about it, and unfortunately, I couldn't answer :-( -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]objects and properties and messages
Mikey, As usual, I'm not quite clear what it is exactly that you want. Doesn't the help/documentation/object/object/object you want/properties (or messages), give what you you're asking for? Pat - Original Message - From: Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [noob again]objects and properties and messages I believe devolution only lists properties that are editable, right? What about read-only properties? Anyboty have any suggestions on how to figure out what messages a particular class of object receives? There are several types of buttons, but some receive different messages from others. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quit vs Exit
Actually this is on my user space - Pat. I put it there because some people had asked about it. I took it down a few weeks ago and immediately got requests to put it back. This time I've also put a copy of the text from the tutorial. It is probably the most useful of all the tutorials (once you have done the beginners stuff). There is so much there that will help you in building an app.A lot of the questions and things not thought of for those new to RR get answered. Pat. - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Quit vs Exit Stewart Lynch wrote: In Dan Shaver's book Revolution, Software at the speed of Thought he refers to a solution for the Macintosh 'Quit' vs Windows 'Exit' menu option. He suggest that we get the code from Richard Gaskin's Intependent Study Tutorial that ships with Revolution. Unfortunately, this shipped with earlier versions of Revolution and not the latest version. Can anyone send me this stack or tell me how to deal with this problem? Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'll follow up with Kevin to see if he plans on reinstating it. If not I'll publish a variant of it myself. I feel strongly that having as much info as possible to help newcomers is critical for the success of the product. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]locking background objects
I think this is what you want.
selectGroupedControls property (global)
Platform support:
Introduced in version 1.0
Specifies whether clicking an object in a group selects the object or the
entire group.
set the selectGroupedControls to {true | false}
set the selectGroupedControls to (not the selectGroupedControls)
See also: select command, selectedObject function, selection keyword,
selectionMode property
Description
Use the selectGroupedControls property to control what happens when you
click a grouped control.
Comments:
If the selectGroupedControls property is set to false, clicking an object in
a group with the Pointer tool selects the entire group. You must set the
editBackground property to true to in order select, move, resize, and change
individual objects in the group.
If the selectGroupedControls is true, clicking an object in a group selects
only that object, even if the editBackground is false.
You can change the selectGroupedControls property by choosing Edit menu
Select Grouped Controls.
Pat
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How do I lock background groups so when I'm working on a card I don't
accidentally mess them up?
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Re: Pie Chart Example wanted!
There is Pie Control by MonsieurX on RevOnline/Users Space/General Pat - Original Message - From: Dwayne Rothe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Pie Chart Example wanted! Hi All, Does anyone know of a pie chart example stack/script getting around? cheers Dwayne.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software
Mark Talluto wrote: The VB porter appears to be generating new customers for RB. From this bit one can estimate that roughly 12-13% of their entire user base has come over from the VB camp. I am sure it has been written somewhere what their user size is. From their PR dept 15/2/05 - REALbasic supports a community of over fifty thousand developers worldwide. Pat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software
This is definitely not very useful, but... I think you're overestimating the number of VB transferees. From RB's PR 21/3 The company also announced the results of survey data collected from 831 customers as they purchase REALbasic. Of customers who responded to the recent survey, 25% are using REALbasic to port existing applications cross-platform. Of these 25%, nearly half (47%) are using REALbasic to port existing Visual Basic applications. Pat - Original Message - From: Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: 12% of 50,000 is 6,000. 13% of 50,000 is 6,500. So, about 6,000 to 6,500 users of RB are VB transferees; good for them. One less Microsoft program for them to deal with. Does anyone find this information useful? From a marketing perspective, the answer is a strong yes. That was the point of my original post. I did not specify I admit. Being a fan of Rev, I always notice their competition when mentioned around the net or in printed materials. Without deep knowledge of the inner workings of Rev the company, one can only guess. A much more interesting question: how many Rev users are transferees from other Xtalk languages, such as HyperCard and SuperCard? Add to this: how many have gone from Xtalks to RB, from Xtalks to VB, from VB to Xtalks, etc. Putting these various pieces of info together may prove rather interesting. Would anyone know how to use it for something constructive? Marketing, perhaps, but otherwise, hmm... Assuming Rev is probably the leading xtalk, focusing on other xtalks would provide less useful marketing information. Not sure how it stacks up to ToolBook in user count though. The whole point is to look at your competitors that are creating waves and see how they are doing it. Not knowing how many users there are using Rev makes it difficult to know what is important to Rev. Not knowing the demographics of their user base also puts us at a disadvantage as well. 6K - 6.5K of VB transferees would be an important number to Rev. I wonder how many of those users would have switched to Rev instead of RB had a translator like that been created for Rev. Is this feature important to me? Nope. I am just curious. If you are creating a product for sale, do you know what your competition is offering? If you do not know their product well enough to teach it to someone else, you are truly missing out marketing and development wise. I have a vertical market commercial app that has about 10 competitors. That is a large number in an ever shrinking global market. We were probably the fifth one to market. With proper analyzation of every competitor we had, we were able to position ourselves to be the leader. It all starts with something as small as my very first comment in the original post. There may be no real point to this thread. I just find it interesting and useful to analyze my competition. Maybe someone else will find it interesting and useful too. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: constant list
Mikey, Make sure you have Filter with: selected and not Search for that *should* give you the list of constants. Pat - Original Message - From: Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: constant list supposedly there's a list of constants available in the documentation window by selecting dictionary, then constants off the menu. Uh, ok, but I don't see constants in the list. I see constant, but not constatnts. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: bugzilla link
Help/Support. Click on the link to bugzilla. Read the blurb. Click on the Go to Bugzilla link at the bottom of the page. Pat - Original Message - From: Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:51 AM Subject: bugzilla link when I went to bugzilla.org and clicked on the link for the bugzilla project at RR I get a 404 page not found error. Does someone have the REAL URL? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: bugzilla link
Works for me OK. http://support.runrev.com/bugzilla/bugzilla.php By the way, do you have the latest version of rev? If not, could explain some of your searching the docs probs as well. Why not try Wilhelm Sanke's excellent Search Rev docs at the speed of thought http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia/Screenshots.htm. Pat - Original Message - From: Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: bugzilla link Help/Support. Click on the link to bugzilla. Read the blurb. Click on the Go to Bugzilla link at the bottom of the page. As per last night, I'm still getting a 404 Page Not Found error, thus the request for the url. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of the insertion point in a field
Mikey, From the docs (search Topics) How do I find out where the insertion point is? You use the selectedChunk function to find out the location of the insertion point. When there is an insertion point but no text is selected, the selectedChunk function returns an expression of the form char nextChar to prevChar of field fieldNumber. For example, if the insertion point is in field 3, between character 10 and character 11, the selectedChunk function returns char 11 to 10 of field 3. HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Location of the insertion point in a field Well, I tried searching the docs. How do I figure out where the cursor (insertion point) is in a field? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Search Rev docs at the speed of thought Bad Language alert!
Just looked at your new screenshot - absolutely bleeding fabulous! All manual style ebooks should have a search function like this. It just gets better and better. Could we be able to select and copy please? Pat And the new version - available during the next days - can be placed either into the main Revolution or Metacard folder (where the engine is) or into the plugins folder of Rev or the MC IDE; SearchDocs XML 2 will detect where it has been placed and set the directory paths for the search accordingly.- Another change is a simplified search input and the extra option to search all of the XML files of the Dictionary, Faq, and Topics in one run. Searching these combined 1992 files will slightly increase the average search time to about 160 milliseconds (WindowsXP, 2 GHz), which should be still very much tolerable. There is a new screenshot at http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia/Screenshots.htm. Regards, Wilhelm ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: altBrowser Print
Hi, I got that message too. I had cut and paste from the email and the get shell.. line had changed to this: Corrected it and it then ran ok. get shell(rundll32.exe C:\\\.dll,PrintHTML quote theURLtoPrint quote) Pat - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: Re: altBrowser Print Hi Derek: On my win2k I get err The specified module could not be found. /H I've just found a workaround for printing with a dialog box in altBrowser for Windows, and I felt like sharing it. I know that this works on WinXP Home SP2 with IE 6. I don't know about older versions, but anyone else who has it should be able to test it. on doPrint set cursor to watch set the hideConsoleWindows to true if NT is in the systemVersion then set the shellCommand to cmd.exe else set the shellCommand to command.exe get shell(rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML quote theURLtoPrint quote) end doPrint ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: field information bails out on card 2
Paul, You could make tData a global variable instead of a local variable global gData on openCard put item 5 of line 1 of gData into field L1 -- whatever else end openCard You will also need to declare the global in the script where you put the data into it. If you are going to put from a fld on one card to a fld on another card: put fld L1 of cd 1 into fld L1 Does into replace the current data and after adds data? Yes, that's right. If fld L1 is on a lot of cards, is part of a group with background behaviour (in the group's property inspector) set to true (you can have just one control in a group) and you want to display exactly the same data in the fld on each card, you can check share text on the flds property inspector. Then whatever is put into one fld shows in all of them.(see sharedText property in the Dictionary) - Original Message - From: Paul Salyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:20 AM Subject: field information bails out on card 2 Dear Rev Programmers, I have the following line in a on openCard line. it places the version number on card 1 ok, no problem. --put item 5 of line 1 of tData into field L1 For card 2 I placed the above line in on openCard but the version does not come up. I also trues to use different versions of the below line. Still no go. put field L1 into field L1 put field L1 into field L1 put L1 into field L1 put L1 into field L1 Both cards have a field L1 How do I get the field1 of card 2 to show up? Also I have seen the term: into field and after field Does into replace the current data and after adds data? Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: center stack
Paul, set the loc of this stack to the screenloc HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Paul Salyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: center stack Dear Rev Programmer, Is it possible to center a stack On OpenStack in the screen? I'm programming 800 X 600 and I want the stack to open in the center of the screen for people with larger than 800 X 600 screen. How is this did? I search the help with center but got no help on what I wanted. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Invisible Stack Help
Len, I downloaded your stack - and as you said the icon appears on the taskbar. But on my win mach it has just been minimized, that's all. Just click the ID Card icon on the task bar to restore it or right click the icon and select restore or maximize. If you still can't see it check its position as it could be off-screen. HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Len Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Invisible Stack Help I just uploaded a stack (username: lmorgan) that was part of a two stack file. It worked fine this morning but I've apparently done something to mess it up so that it no longer displays. I've checked all the possible suspects and can't figure it out. I can play with all the controls on the one card and if I print the card (which is what the other stack does), I get everything but the image. Note that the images addressed by this stack are not included because they are loaded from external files. Even so, I would think that I could at least see the rest of the card (sans image) or maybe get an error if there is a problem. The point where this happened was when I stopped using a jpeg file I had here and substituted it with one from my customer. It's the same number of pixels but it's got the opposite orientation. In other words, my test picture was 640 x 480 and the real images are 480 x 640. Any ideas? I'm stumped. len ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Invisible Stack Help
Further - If a Win stack is minimized and then closed from the taskbar, it invariably, next time it is opened is still iconified. In closestackrequest I put - set the iconic of this stack to false And in the openstack or preopenstack set the loc of this stack to the screenloc (or whatever location is required) There may be a better way of doing this. Pat - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Invisible Stack Help Len, I downloaded your stack - and as you said the icon appears on the taskbar. But on my win mach it has just been minimized, that's all. Just click the ID Card icon on the task bar to restore it or right click the icon and select restore or maximize. If you still can't see it check its position as it could be off-screen. HTH Pat - Original Message - From: Len Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Invisible Stack Help I just uploaded a stack (username: lmorgan) that was part of a two stack file. It worked fine this morning but I've apparently done something to mess it up so that it no longer displays. I've checked all the possible suspects and can't figure it out. I can play with all the controls on the one card and if I print the card (which is what the other stack does), I get everything but the image. Note that the images addressed by this stack are not included because they are loaded from external files. Even so, I would think that I could at least see the rest of the card (sans image) or maybe get an error if there is a problem. The point where this happened was when I stopped using a jpeg file I had here and substituted it with one from my customer. It's the same number of pixels but it's got the opposite orientation. In other words, my test picture was 640 x 480 and the real images are 480 x 640. Any ideas? I'm stumped. len ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Search Rev docs at the speed of thought
On Friday, March 18, 2005 2:42 PM Mark Swindell wrote: snip Very cool. What I'd like when searching is to return ALL instances of the search in ALL categories at once... not have to predefine where I want to search before the fact. and Still, a great, usable, useful stack. Thanks. Exactly my thoughts as well. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the backdrop hides revOnline viewer
No. On Win when I relaunch RevOnline is visible Pat - Original Message - From: Dick Kriesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: the backdrop hides revOnline viewer Recipe: 1. launch a brand-new 2.5.1 2. turn on the backdrop 3. quit 4. relaunch 5. notice the backdrop hides RevOnline Any confirmations? If so, I¹ll BZ it. -- Dick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting label of option menu
Kaveh, You just need to reverse the last two lines, set the label first and then the menuHistory as below: create btn a set the style of btn a to menu set the menumode of btn a to option set the showName of button a to true put one return two return three into btn a set the label of btn a to two set the menuHistory of btn a to 2 Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kaveh Bazargan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Setting label of option menu At 5:22 pm +1000 22/2/05, Pat Trendler wrote: I think what you mean is set the name of btn a to two that works. set the label of btn a to two does set the label OK, but it is the *name* that gets displayed on the btn. Yes, that works, but I don't want to change the name. If you manually select three, then it shows three, but the name remains two. How can I show two but keep the name? -- Kaveh Bazargan http://www.river-valley.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting label of option menu
I think what you mean is set the name of btn a to two that works. set the label of btn a to two does set the label OK, but it is the *name* that gets displayed on the btn. HTH Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kaveh Bazargan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Setting label of option menu I am resetting the menuHistory and the Label of an option button, using the following script: create btn a set the style of btn a to menu set the menumode of btn a to option set the showName of button a to true put one return two return three into btn a set the menuHistory of btn a to 2 set the label of btn a to two Why is the label of the button still a, not two? -- Kaveh Bazargan http://www.river-valley.com http://www.holographer.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouseDown/Up - no actions when not on buttons
J Landman Gay wrote: snip Instead of trying to get the name for all cases, change the syntax to: case navUp -- Determine which text field the user was in if the selectedField contains User ID then -- change this focus on field Password Jaqueline, The above is always empty. If you use: put the short name of the selectedField into activeField if activeField = User ID then as Jason did, you can store the selectedField. Of course, the rest of your recommendations are a far better way of coding. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouseDown/Up - no actions when not on buttons
Hello Jason, Could you just make the purple area a button. Turn off showName,autoHilite,sharedHilite, showFocusBorder. And turn off traversalOn - so that it doesn't take focus off the field if it is clicked.. You can use property inspector (size position/layer) to 'send to the back' alter you create the button. Regards Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Silver, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: mouseDown/Up - no actions when not on buttons Hello (again) :) After some very useful advice from Jacqueline Landman Gay at Hyperactive, I've changed the structure of my mobile phone sim tool. Now, instead of the buttons being on a palette, they're grouped and behave like a background, showing up on every card. When buttons are pressed, they send a custom ButtonPress message with the name of the button being pressed to the card. The card then has a switch statement, and does some action based on which button was pressed. The current card I'm working on is a Login type screen, with two focusable/editable fields, User ID and Password. (Please see my shared stack in RevOnline's User Spaces; the username is jsilver). In the switch statements, I have this script when the user presses up (or down): case navUp -- Determine which text field the user is currently in put the short name of the selectedField into activeField if activeField = User ID then focus on field Password else -- The user must be in the password field focus on field User ID end if break This works all well and good, except when pressing on an area that's not a button (in my stack, the purpleish area). The cursor then disappears from either the User ID or Password fields, and then when pressing Up or Down, the following error occurs (because the focus is not in a field): Type: Chunk: no target found Object: Login Screen Line: put the short name of the selectedField into activeField Basically, I never want the focus to leave either the User ID or Password fields; this simulation is supposed to be controlled solely by the buttons placed in the Buttons group. Is there an easy way to block the mouseUp (or mouseDown?) handler from doing anything when not on those buttons? I've tried adding exit mouseDown type handlers in the card and stack, but this doesn't do anything. Any help is appreciated. Thanks again! Jason Silver Human Factors Engineer, Sr. QUALCOMM Inc. (858) 845-3444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Exporting multiple files#1
Hello Dwayne, The item delimiter is still set to TAB - set it back to | before the last end repeat line. Regards Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dwayne Rothe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: Exporting multiple files#1 Hi All, I need help writing multiple files from a list! I have a text file with items delimited by | Amongst those items I have have more data delimited by TAB eg. Name|Age|Favorite Color|Hobby1Hobby2 Hobby3|Pet1 Pet2 Pet3 the fourth fifth items may contain hobbies pets which could be of any quantity! What I am trying to do is write a seperate .txt file for each line, saved as the first item as the file name. e.g Say I have two lines as follows John Doe|16|Blue|Fishing Cars Computers|DogCat Bird Jane Doe|14|Pink|Shopping Boys|Canary Goldfish I want to save file as below; Text file 1: Name: John Doe Age: 16 Favorite Color: Blue Hobbies:Fishing, Cars, Computers Pets:Dog, Cat, Bird saved as John Doe.txt Text file 2: Name: Jane Doe Age: 14 Favorite Color: Pink Hobbies:Shopping, Boys Pets:Canary, Goldfish saved as Jane Doe.txt - Here is the code I have so far that doesnt work properly! put John Doe cr Jane Doe into tNames put URL (file: list.txt) into tList set itemDel to | repeat for each line x in tNames put x into tName get lineOffset(tName, tList) put line it of tList into tListData put item 1 of tListData into tName put item 2 of tListData into tAge put item 3 of tListData into tColor put item 4 of tListData into tHobby put item 5 of tListData into tPet set itemDel to TAB repeat for each line x in tHobby put x comma space after tHobbies end repeat repeat for each line x in tPet put x comma space after tPets end repeat Put Name: tName cr cr into tDataFile Put Age: tAge cr cr after tDataFile Put Favorite Color: tColor cr cr after tDataFile Put Hobbies: tHobbies cr cr after tDataFile Put Pets: tPets cr cr after tDataFile put tDataFile into URL (file: tName .txt) end repeat This writes only one file! Any help would be great!!! Thanx D.Rothe ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Exporting multiple files#1
Dwayne, Also you need to clear out the tHobbies and tPets variables, or the items will get added to with every repeat. i.e. after the set itemDel to TAB line you could put put into tHobbies put into tPets Pat - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: Exporting multiple files#1 Hello Dwayne, The item delimiter is still set to TAB - set it back to | before the last end repeat line. Regards Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dwayne Rothe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: Exporting multiple files#1 Hi All, I need help writing multiple files from a list! I have a text file with items delimited by | Amongst those items I have have more data delimited by TAB eg. Name|Age|Favorite Color|Hobby1Hobby2 Hobby3|Pet1 Pet2 Pet3 the fourth fifth items may contain hobbies pets which could be of any quantity! What I am trying to do is write a seperate .txt file for each line, saved as the first item as the file name. e.g Say I have two lines as follows John Doe|16|Blue|Fishing Cars Computers|DogCat Bird Jane Doe|14|Pink|Shopping Boys|Canary Goldfish I want to save file as below; Text file 1: Name: John Doe Age: 16 Favorite Color: Blue Hobbies:Fishing, Cars, Computers Pets:Dog, Cat, Bird saved as John Doe.txt Text file 2: Name: Jane Doe Age: 14 Favorite Color: Pink Hobbies:Shopping, Boys Pets:Canary, Goldfish saved as Jane Doe.txt - Here is the code I have so far that doesnt work properly! put John Doe cr Jane Doe into tNames put URL (file: list.txt) into tList set itemDel to | repeat for each line x in tNames put x into tName get lineOffset(tName, tList) put line it of tList into tListData put item 1 of tListData into tName put item 2 of tListData into tAge put item 3 of tListData into tColor put item 4 of tListData into tHobby put item 5 of tListData into tPet set itemDel to TAB repeat for each line x in tHobby put x comma space after tHobbies end repeat repeat for each line x in tPet put x comma space after tPets end repeat Put Name: tName cr cr into tDataFile Put Age: tAge cr cr after tDataFile Put Favorite Color: tColor cr cr after tDataFile Put Hobbies: tHobbies cr cr after tDataFile Put Pets: tPets cr cr after tDataFile put tDataFile into URL (file: tName .txt) end repeat This writes only one file! Any help would be great!!! Thanx D.Rothe ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Win convention question
Richard, I don't know if this is of any use. Interesting reading, anyway. A lot of apps seem to break these specs. Design Specifications and Guidelines - Integrating with the System http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwue/html/ch11d.asp Then click: Installation (covers uninstalling) Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: [OT] Win convention question On a Mac, you customarily install an app by dragging the app or a folder from a DMG to your drive. Uninstalling means simply dragging it to the trach, and any preferences files are left behind. On Windows I use Wise Install to copy the app into its own folder in /Program Files/, and when the app is run it puts its prefs data in a folder within the user's Documents and Settings folder. Historically I've treated everything in the Documents and Settings folder as belonging to the user, and do not bother with uninstalling. Moreover, on multi-user systems I may not know where to find all of the user Documents and Settings folders for everyone who may have run the app. So what is the normal convention for uninstall on Win XP? Should I: a) leave prefs in the user's Documents and Settings files as is common with files in the Mac's Preferences folder? b) Delete only the prefs data in the current user's Documents and Settings folder? c) Attempt to delete prefs from the Documents and Settings folders for all users on the computer? Extra bonus points for Win HIG verse and chapter; I couldn't find the section on how to handle such things. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: employee database tutorial
Bob, You could go to: ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/distributions/ and download Rev 2.2.1 and get the employee database from there. (unfortunately you'd have to download the whole 11mb) Failing that, I could email you the stacks or put them on the revonline space? Just let me know. Pat - Original Message - From: Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:59 AM Subject: Re: employee database tutorial At 11:02 16/01/2005, you wrote: At 00:47 16/01/2005, you wrote: Bob- Hi Mark Thanks for the tip, however, I have already seen the contact manager. I also found it very usefull when originally designing the basic database primer series. I now need some more functionality and would like to get the other one for the searching and filtering help. Anyone got the employee database tutorial? I've been searching for this for 3 hours today and not written a thing to my app. Al the best Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: employee database tutorial
Bob, I uploaded (I hope) the stacks (4) to my user space: Pat or category general: EmpDB EmpDB splash empDB about empDB DocTemplate. Pat - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: employee database tutorial Bob, You could go to: ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/distributions/ and download Rev 2.2.1 and get the employee database from there. (unfortunately you'd have to download the whole 11mb) Failing that, I could email you the stacks or put them on the revonline space? Just let me know. Pat - Original Message - From: Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:59 AM Subject: Re: employee database tutorial At 11:02 16/01/2005, you wrote: At 00:47 16/01/2005, you wrote: Bob- Hi Mark Thanks for the tip, however, I have already seen the contact manager. I also found it very usefull when originally designing the basic database primer series. I now need some more functionality and would like to get the other one for the searching and filtering help. Anyone got the employee database tutorial? I've been searching for this for 3 hours today and not written a thing to my app. Al the best Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: For Newbies The Basic Database Primer V2)
Hi Bob, First, you forgot to set the backgroundBehaviour of the group to true in the stack you posted. Sort of thing I do all the time. The hilitedLine gives the line number not the card's name. Hopes this helps a bit. Pat. patrendATbigpond.com - Original Message - From: Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 7:45 AM Subject: For Newbies The Basic Database Primer V2) Hi All. Version 2 of the basic database primer series is now on revonline. It is in general categories. Now I know it is for newbies, however, could some of the rev gurus please have a look at the search-List popup and the way is modifies the list. Once the list is filtered with this popup it wont allow double clicking of the listfield entry to go to the corresponding card. If I get this sorted I can get on with the rest of the demo app. Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Docs Online? -- Web Notes?
Yes, I can see both your annotations. Pat patrendATbigpond.com - Original Message - From: Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Rev Docs Online? -- Web Notes? I just discovered Web Notes in the Rev docs. Does it really work? If so, maybe I don't need to look any further for a way to annotate the existing docs. Could somebody please tell me if they see the brief notes I added today to the show command and/or the formattedText property? If you see them, well... that's pretty exciting! Thanks - Phil Davis Phil Davis wrote: Is there a web site where Rev docs can be viewed? And hopefully edited? Thanks - Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: from list to card via double click
on mouseUp if the hilitedLine is not empty then go card (the hilitedLine of me) end if end mouseUp Pat - Original Message - From: Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: from list to card via double click Hi All. My wee database tutorial work is stuck again. (no great shakes there) :-). I have button that sticks the text fo a field item into a list ItemList. The script is this and works perfectly... on mouseup repeat with n = 1 to the number of cds in this stack put fld Item of cd n return after theList end repeat delete last char of theList -- clear trailing return put theList into fld ItemList end mouseup Now that i have my list I can sort it using on mouseUp sort lines of field ItemList by word 1 of each end mouseUp This works perfectly... Now what I want to do is to double click on a list entry and go to the card that produced this entry. I can't see how this si done. Searched the docs and the list archive without any clear answer. Lots of clues though... linktext etc Any Ideas folks. Cheers Bob I -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: from list to card via double click
I was hoping Bob would know what the double click thing was, because I couldn't remember. (actually I didn't know) But Iwasinahurrytoanswerthequestion because I rarely know the answer and by the time I've checked it out sixotherpeoplehavegotinbeforeme. There's many a slip between mouse and click - less haste with cut and paste. But apart from that I got it right. Wow! Pat - Original Message - From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Use Revolution List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: Re: from list to card via double click On 1/9/05 4:19 PM, Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on mouseUp if the hilitedLine is not empty then go card (the hilitedLine of me) end if end mouseUp Actually, that's mouseDoubleUp if you want to trap the double-click... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cookbook location in the documentation?
Mark, It's in Rev Online, Learning Centre,Sample Work, Sample Scripts Pat. - Original Message - From: Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Revolution use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:28 AM Subject: Cookbook location in the documentation? Would some kind soul show me where to find the much talked about cookbook in the documentation? I have looked in: Topics, Dictionary, Objects, and FAQ. I am guessing it is buried in there somewhere, but after 20 minutes of poking around, I give up. Thanks. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Audio Only for 2.5 Vids (WinXP)
Yep. Same here. Pat - Original Message - From: Scott Slaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Audio Only for 2.5 Vids (WinXP) Incidentally, I filed this in Bugzilla as bug 2057 before 2.5 shipped. They said there that in the release it would contain the correct codecs. Apparently this wasn't true in your case. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, I should probably reopen that Bugzilla case so that Runtime will get the correct codec in there. Scott Slaugh - Hide quoted text - On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 14:29:28 -0400, Dave LeYanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW! Thanks Scott. That worked! Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 92 SAPI SDK 4
Barry, http://www.microsoft.com/speech/download/old/sdk40a.asp You need to download the SAPI SDK 4 Suite.exe 40 MB (not the other downloads listed there they don't contain the speech engine) Pat - Original Message - From: Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 92 Fair enough but where, pray tell, is one to find version 4.x? A search at ms.com revealed nothing. Thanks, Barry On 8/22/04 10:00 AM, MisterX allegedly flung into the void: Subject: RE: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet? I think there is something about it in the readme... It's in the what's new actually Issue: On Windows systems, the Speech library is not yet compatible with version 5.x of Microsoft's speech software. Workaround: Use version 4.x instead. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?
Ah ...I was just in the middle of composing a very long whingeing email ... Now all I get to say is Thanks!! Pat - Original Message - From: Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tuviah snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:11 AM Subject: Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet? Thank you, Tuviah :-D Judy On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, tuviah snyder wrote: Note revspeech.dll has been updated to support SAPI 5 for 2.5. You will however have to choose between two versions of the external one that is compatible with SAPI 4 and the other one which is compatible between with SAPI 5. The one for SAPI 5 will be included in the distro by default. If your using Win95, note that you will have to use SAPI 4 as SAPI doesn't work with this OS... Best, Tuviah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Desperately seeking help. iconify. uniconify. close from task bar. answer. ms reportable error?
Rev 2.1.2 win32 I've had a lot of problems with iconify, managed to solve them all except this one. Spent nearly two very valuable days trying to get round this. I need to make sure a user gets a chance to save a substack (saved as a separate file) if they minimize and then close the stack from the taskbar. This happens with an empty stack and with just this in the stack script. on iconifystack answer whatever with OK end iconifystack doesn't matter where the script goes - closestackrequest, uniconify. Without answer and I just save and do some other things there's no problem - but there is if the user didn't want to save the changes they've made. This is for a cdrom which my client (my first paid job) has made a deal with a magazine she writes for to review this cdrom, so there's a deadline. Tomorrow. Basically the only way I can solve this problem seems to be to take minimize off the decorations - and that is not going to look good either. Maybe someone has some ideas. Greatly appreciated if you can help here. Pat ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Desperately seeking help. iconify. uniconify. close from task bar.answer. ms reportable error?
This doesn't happen in 2.5 but that doesn't help me much. Also I've noticed how minimizing stacks released memory, and what's interesting is that it never goes up as much as when the standalone is first opened. Varies between a half to sometimes a quarter of the original memory usage. If iconic wasn't such a bitch I might think of iconicing/uniconicising at startup - it really cuts down on memory usage ( or maybe its just my bad code) Pat. - Original Message - From: Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Desperately seeking help. iconify. uniconify. close from task bar.answer. ms reportable error? Rev 2.1.2 win32 I've had a lot of problems with iconify, managed to solve them all except this one. Spent nearly two very valuable days trying to get round this. I need to make sure a user gets a chance to save a substack (saved as a separate file) if they minimize and then close the stack from the taskbar. This happens with an empty stack and with just this in the stack script. on iconifystack answer whatever with OK end iconifystack doesn't matter where the script goes - closestackrequest, uniconify. Without answer and I just save and do some other things there's no problem - but there is if the user didn't want to save the changes they've made. This is for a cdrom which my client (my first paid job) has made a deal with a magazine she writes for to review this cdrom, so there's a deadline. Tomorrow. Basically the only way I can solve this problem seems to be to take minimize off the decorations - and that is not going to look good either. Maybe someone has some ideas. Greatly appreciated if you can help here. Pat ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Desperately seeking help. iconify. uniconify. close from task bar. answer. ms reportable error?
Thanks Trevor, Yes you understand right. It is when the user right clicks on the task bar and chooses close. Otherwise, shutdownrequest etc. work OK if the user maximises first. It's only if the user does it from the taskbar. The same thing happens if I try to trap at the shutdownrequest if the stack is minimized. As soon as it hit the answer box I get the error. This happens with an empty stack also(2.1.2) Pat - Original Message - From: Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Desperately seeking help. iconify. uniconify. close from task bar. answer. ms reportable error? On Jul 30, 2004, at 11:07 PM, Pat Trendler wrote: Rev 2.1.2 win32 I've had a lot of problems with iconify, managed to solve them all except this one. Spent nearly two very valuable days trying to get round this. I need to make sure a user gets a chance to save a substack (saved as a separate file) if they minimize and then close the stack from the taskbar. This happens with an empty stack and with just this in the stack script. on iconifystack answer whatever with OK end iconifystack doesn't matter where the script goes - closestackrequest, uniconify. Without answer and I just save and do some other things there's no problem - but there is if the user didn't want to save the changes they've made. Pat, I'm not sure I understand the problem exactly. From what I understand you want to ask the user whether they want to save changes before the app quits but it isn't working when the stack has been iconified? Are you not able to trap the the shutdownRequest message and ask the user? If I'm not understanding this correctly could you provide some more details? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Desperately seeking help. iconify. uniconify. close from task bar. answer. ms reportable error?
Trevor, The error is winxp the Microsoft ..has encountered an problem and need to close. We are sorry for the incovenience...etc. Please tell microsoft about this problem etc win98 95 This program has peformed an illegal operation and will be shut down The shutdownrequest, closestackrequest etc. all get received OK and the handler runs until it reaches the answer box. In any case this problem occurs even if you make an empty stack, with a handler that just has the answer box, to deal with the close from the taskbar. I have tried setting the iconic to true, but of course the answer box is still in the same handler. I could probably just set the iconic to true which would force the user to close the stack from the menu or the close box. They might think it is a bit strange when they close from the taskbar and then the stack opens up. But there doesn't seem to be any other way out. This is obviously some kind of weird bug that nobody has noticed before. As far as I can tell it doesn't happen in 2.5 (I don't know about 2.2) Pat - Original Message - From: Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Desperately seeking help. iconify. uniconify. close from task bar. answer. ms reportable error? On Jul 31, 2004, at 12:27 AM, Pat Trendler wrote: Thanks Trevor, Yes you understand right. It is when the user right clicks on the task bar and chooses close. Otherwise, shutdownrequest etc. work OK if the user maximises first. It's only if the user does it from the taskbar. The same thing happens if I try to trap at the shutdownrequest if the stack is minimized. As soon as it hit the answer box I get the error. What is the error exactly? That the shutdownrequest message is not received? If that is the case might want to check the closeStackRequest message as well. If the shutdownRequest message is being received then you could try setting the iconic property of the stack to true before asking the user to save. That should maximize the stack again. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installers
I use Monte Goulding's installer too. And can vouch that it's safe, simple and fast. Wouldn't be without it. Pat. - Original Message - From: Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 6:06 PM Subject: Re: Installers I use Monte Goulding's installers which work for both Mac and Windows alike. It's great, 'cause all you do is drag/drop your folder full of stuff onto it and it figures out what to do (based on the contents of the folder...ie. if your folder has a 'license.txt' file, then it puts it in the installer.) You can check out an animated preview of it at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/installgadgetanim/default.htm best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
