Re: [ANN] vector to pdf v02b
Inform to the mail list about any incompabilities and error messages with Acrobat 6 and Readers from Mac OS X and Linux. Since v02 and v02b, PDF files will not open in Reader 6.0 with or without ascii85 or hex encoding. Reader 6 gives no error message and displays an empty square page. The page size is reported as 0 x 0 in Reader 6. All encodings open fine in Acrobat 5.0, and it allows saving. Oddly, after saving from Acrobat 5.0, Reader 6.0 still will not open the file. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Jim Hurley wrote: Now after your triumph with Vector to AI and a Vector to PDF, what will you do for an encore? Maybe Vector to IPod? I do not have an IPod, but accept any mp3 player from the participants of this list... ;-) But, i do not feel too triumphant. This is more a scratchy start, than a problem solved. The pdf file BARELY opens in Acrobat. ;-)) There is a problem with line graphics with an open segment in the PDF converter. For example, a line graphic with following points: 139,109 402,59 476,242 214,361 65,244 appears as if the open line were closed, i.e. as if the empty line were absent. Did I make myself clear? Ah, yes. This is an exceptional case that will require some new code to handle. Thanks for pointing this, Jim! It'll be needed to represent each segment as a new vector graphic. I'll start working on this today, with the vector figures from the stack Rotater. If you could add this code, Jim, then please do. Probably you are working in the graphics for your book and need this now or as soon as possible. If you need more specific help, then write me off-list. I think that some custom code to save a sequence of vector animation as : file01.pdf,file02.pdf,etc could be really useful later on the road. I should have said: it appears closed in FreeHand. When I try to open it it Acrobat I get a error message: Too few operands. I suspect that Acrobat is complaining about empty lines. FreeHand uses a very relaxed interpretation of pdf files, closely related to the way the program PackEdge deals with pdf files, extracting only the objects useful for screen representation. Pierre Sahores wrote: Your vector2pdf stack works fine there under both Panther 10.3.4 and Suse-Linux 8.2 Pro (MC 2.5 in both cases). The exported PDF files opens OK under Apercu and Acrobat Reader 6 (MacOS) and under Acrobat 5 (Linux). Good news!!! :-)) They don't open under KGhostView 0.13.2 / KDE 3.1.1 (Linux) and under Ghostscript 7.05.6 (Linux), witch popups an error message saying that the file has a corrupted %EOF marker or gaberage after the %EOF. An error message! This is as valuable as gold, given that most readers do not returns useful information when they found an error. Probably there is two or more chars after %EOF I bet they are linefeeds. Roger.E.Eller wrote: Vector to DXF would make it possible to make CAD compatible software. Actually, i do not have CAD software to test this conversion. Is DXF written as ascii text? I imported vector2pdf.pdf, and PackEdge converted the color pallette from RGB to CMYK because this program is designed for commercial printing. Not only changed from rgb to cmyk, but it literally rebuild the pdf around the objects. This is a great pdf fixer application! Then I exported the file out as pdf2PackEdge2pdf.pdf. Thanks for sending this file. Now I have 8 different pdf files from the same set of vector graphics. Actually, i have almost solved the ascii85 encoding issue. More important is that i've found and downloaded the pdf reference 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5 from diverse websites. First reference manual (1.1) is a must read to understand the format. Thanks to everyone for their feedback. i'll keep you posted on fixes to this code. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Alejandro, Actually, i do not have CAD software to test this conversion. Is DXF written as ascii text? In its simplest form, DXF can be ascii only. The DXF CAD file format appears to be well documented at myfileformats.com. http://myfileformats.com/search.php?name=dxf There are numerous freeware and/or shareware CAD programs that will import DXF files that would serve well as a viewer during development. Regards, Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Alejandro, Your vector2pdf stack works fine there under both Panther 10.3.4 and Suse-Linux 8.2 Pro (MC 2.5 in both cases). The exported PDF files opens OK under Apercu and Acrobat Reader 6 (MacOS) and under Acrobat 5 (Linux). They don't open under KGhostView 0.13.2 / KDE 3.1.1 (Linux) and under Ghostscript 7.05.6 (Linux), witch popups an error message saying that the file has a corrupted %EOF marker or gaberage after the %EOF. Kind Regards, Pierre Le 5 août 04, à 05:59, Alejandro Tejada a écrit : on Wed, 4 Aug 2004 Jim Hurley wrote: Actually you have solved my needs for a PDF exporter within RunRev with your generous work allowing us to export RunRev graphics as an Illustrator file. I'm glad that you find useful that handler. Notice, Jim, the pdf export handler is almost identical to the AI export handler. If you are using FreeHand, then i suggest that you use the pdf export handler because it solves some errors in the AI handler. FreeHand opens the PDF without problems. Ilustrator warns about an error and does not opens the PDF. Read a previous post on this topic Pierre Sahores wrote: Will spend a couple of hours with it (Linux, Panther). Thanks Pierre. I'll look forward to your review. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 WEB/EAI services ACID DB over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
If you are using FreeHand, then i suggest that you use the pdf export handler because it solves some errors in the AI handler. Al, Thanks for this update. I will follow your advice. Now after your triumph with Vector to AI and a Vector to PDF, what will you do for an encore? Maybe Vector to IPod? Jim Vector to DXF would make it possible to make CAD compatible software. That would be a nice encore! But let's achieve one dream at a time. ;-) Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Let me know if I can assist with testing or providing sample PDF files created with various programs. Of course, if you could save these same set of vectors graphics as pdf from other applications, like ghostscript, corel, indesign, open office, etc..., you could compress all of them and send to my mail for inspection. Alejandro, I do not have the applications mentioned above, but I just tested your vector2pdf.pdf in the graphics software we use. It is called PackEdge by Esko Graphics. http://www.esko-graphics.com I imported vector2pdf.pdf, and PackEdge converted the color pallette from RGB to CMYK because this program is designed for commercial printing. Then I exported the file out as pdf2PackEdge2pdf.pdf. When both files are viewed in Acrobat Reader 6, the size, position, and layering of objects is retained. The colors display differently because of the RGB to CMYK conversion though. Over all, it worked great! Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Al, There is a problem with line graphics with an open segment in the PDF converter. For example, a line graphic with with following points: 139,109 402,59 476,242 214,361 65,244 appears as if the open line were closed, i.e. as if the empty line were absent. Did I make myself clear? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Al, There is a problem with line graphics with an open segment in the PDF converter. For example, a line graphic with with following points: 139,109 402,59 476,242 214,361 65,244 appears as if the open line were closed, i.e. as if the empty line were absent. Did I make myself clear? Jim P.S. Al, I should have said: it appears closed in FreeHand. When I try to open it it Acrobat I get a error message: Too few operands. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:28:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Alejandro Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANN] vector to pdf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Developers, After a lot of discussion about the need of pdf in this platform, i get surprised that no interest showed to this handler to export the vector graphics of a stack as pdf. It's a humble start to learn to write pdf from within RR/MC. Hi Al, Actually you have solved my needs for a PDF exporter within RunRev with your generous work allowing us to export RunRev graphics as an Illustrator file. What I do now is use your utility to export any RR graphic as an Illustrator file, open it it FreeHand, complete my work in FreeHand and export the FreeHand document as PDF. A little cumbersome, but certainly workable. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Thanks Alejandro, Will spend a couple of hours with it (Linux, Panther). Best, Pierre Le 4 août 04, à 02:28, Alejandro Tejada a écrit : Hi Developers, After a lot of discussion about the need of pdf in this platform, i get surprised that no interest showed to this handler to export the vector graphics of a stack as pdf. It's a humble start to learn to write pdf from within RR/MC. I just ask for feedback on PDF readers error messages on linux and mac os x. Just in case that the original message get lost in the mail, i'll post here again: on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Developers, Download the stack vector2pdf: _http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf.zip_ http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf.zip This shows a handler to export vector graphics as pdf. When Acrobat Reader 5 opens the file, it still shows the message Rebuilding reference table, but at least the file opens... :-)) Inform to the mail list about any incompabilities and error messages with Acrobat 6 and Readers from Mac OS X and Linux. If you want to help to write the code needed to write text and images with this handler, download the PDF reference manual. Look in Google for PDF reference manual. Thanks a lot to Richard Gaskin for his help with the colornames funtions. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 WEB/EAI services ACID DB over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
on Wed, 4 Aug 2004 Jim Hurley wrote: Actually you have solved my needs for a PDF exporter within RunRev with your generous work allowing us to export RunRev graphics as an Illustrator file. I'm glad that you find useful that handler. Notice, Jim, the pdf export handler is almost identical to the AI export handler. If you are using FreeHand, then i suggest that you use the pdf export handler because it solves some errors in the AI handler. FreeHand opens the PDF without problems. Ilustrator warns about an error and does not opens the PDF. Read a previous post on this topic Pierre Sahores wrote: Will spend a couple of hours with it (Linux, Panther). Thanks Pierre. I'll look forward to your review. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
I just ask for feedback on PDF readers error messages on linux and mac os x Alejandro, I for one am very appreciative of your work in this area. PDF output needs to become as easy as printing. As a matter of fact, that is one way of getting a PDF out of a Rev stack (if you own Adobe Acrobat - not reader). That is a costly solution, and cannot be bundled as a part of our own creations, making it even more important to achieve this capability within Rev. I tested your vector2pdf with Acrobat 5 (full) and Acrobat Reader 6 on Win2000. In both cases the PDF files opened and displayed correct color filled objects. I look forward to text functionality, even in its simplest form would be S useful! Let me know if I can assist with testing or providing sample PDF files created with various programs. Thanks. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
On Aug 3, 2004, at 10:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of fact, that is one way of getting a PDF out of a Rev stack (if you own Adobe Acrobat - not reader). Or, a Mac. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
As a matter of fact, that is one way of getting a PDF out of a Rev stack (if you own Adobe Acrobat - not reader). Or, a Mac. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. Yet another cost-prohibitive factor. ;-p Also, did you know that PDF files from the rendering engine bundled in OS X are not Adobe compliant? For simple document exchange, they are ok. but in commercial prepress we have to rely on Adobe Distiller to convert postscript files to a usable format. ~Roger ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
On Aug 3, 2004, at 10:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another cost-prohibitive factor. ;-p Also, did you know that PDF files from the rendering engine bundled in OS X are not Adobe compliant? For simple document exchange, they are ok. but in commercial prepress we have to rely on Adobe Distiller to convert postscript files to a usable format. Oh yeah. I have Acrobat Pro for those instances too. I know what you mean. But the ability to just print a pretty decent PDF from anything that can print is pretty handy. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
on Tue Aug 3 2004 Roger.E.Eller wrote: I tested your vector2pdf with Acrobat 5 (full) and Acrobat Reader 6 on Win2000. In both cases the PDF files opened and displayed correct color filled objects. This is great to know! Thanks! Did you try to print or save as pdf from Acrobat? These are my results in informal test: In Acrobat 5, when i modify and try to save the file it warns about an error that could not be repaired. And the file do not save... In Adobe ilustrator, this pdf is dismissed as damaged and is not opened. Freehand opens this pdf without problems. I look forward to text functionality, even in its simplest form would be S useful! I agree. Because of the encodings required by text it takes more time to test and implement correctly. Let me know if I can assist with testing or providing sample PDF files created with various programs. Of course, if you could save these same set of vectors graphics as pdf from other applications, like ghostscript, corel, indesign, open office, etc..., you could compress all of them and send to my mail for inspection. If we want to make this adaptation happen faster, everybody could grab a copy of the pdf reference and start reading and experimenting. ;-) Thanks in advance. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
