Re: Logback and Apache Karaf

2013-03-14 Thread Gareth
Isn't it though a separate bundle (pax-logging-service vs.
pax-logging-logback)? From looking at the code it looks like whilst it uses
the same pid as the pax-logging-service, pax-logging-logback works a little
differently (the org.ops4j.pax.logging configuration contains a pointer to
the real logback configuration).

I can do all this myself (download pax-logging-logback to the embedded
repository, change startup properties to use pax-logging-logback instead of
pax-logging-service, change the default org.ops4j.pax.logging.properties
file and add a logback.xml). It would be nice though if karaf could make it
easier (like it does with the equinox/felix switch).

I am actually surprised that no-one else asked for this. Is logback not used
much?

thanks,
Gareth






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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf

2013-03-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I suppose people find the enhanced log4j version sufficient.
A bunch of sutff has been added to the basic log4j embedded in paxlogging,
such as MDCSiftingAPpender, ZipROllingFileAppender, MDCMatchFilter and
missing property based configuration for hierachical bits.


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Gareth gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Isn't it though a separate bundle (pax-logging-service vs.
 pax-logging-logback)? From looking at the code it looks like whilst it uses
 the same pid as the pax-logging-service, pax-logging-logback works a little
 differently (the org.ops4j.pax.logging configuration contains a pointer to
 the real logback configuration).

 I can do all this myself (download pax-logging-logback to the embedded
 repository, change startup properties to use pax-logging-logback instead of
 pax-logging-service, change the default org.ops4j.pax.logging.properties
 file and add a logback.xml). It would be nice though if karaf could make it
 easier (like it does with the equinox/felix switch).

 I am actually surprised that no-one else asked for this. Is logback not
 used
 much?

 thanks,
 Gareth






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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf

2013-03-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set command
which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.comwrote:

 No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
 Service way of configuring the logger.
 But I think you're able to configure it in the org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
 file to use a logback config.

 regards, Achim


 2013/3/14 Gareth gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
 bundled
 with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:

 karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback

 I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
 log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).

 thanks in advance,
 Gareth



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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf

2013-03-14 Thread Ryan Moquin
FYI, I tried the pax-logging-logback library (not sure if it was 1.7.0 or
1.7.1 or something), but it went crazy when I installed it.  Literally just
about every bundle version of logback that was ever made ended up installed
and activated there were some other weird things.  I ended up deciding
just to stick with what's there by default though I would like to use
logback somehow.


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set command
 which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.


 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck 
 bcanh...@googlemail.comwrote:

 No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
 Service way of configuring the logger.
 But I think you're able to configure it in the org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
 file to use a logback config.

 regards, Achim


 2013/3/14 Gareth gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
 bundled
 with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:

 karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback

 I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
 log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).

 thanks in advance,
 Gareth



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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf

2013-03-14 Thread Gareth
Hi Ryan,

I am curious - How did you install it?

thanks,
Gareth

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Ryan Moquin [via Karaf]
ml-node+s922171n4028206...@n3.nabble.com wrote:
 FYI, I tried the pax-logging-logback library (not sure if it was 1.7.0 or
 1.7.1 or something), but it went crazy when I installed it.  Literally just
 about every bundle version of logback that was ever made ended up installed
 and activated there were some other weird things.  I ended up deciding
 just to stick with what's there by default though I would like to use
 logback somehow.


 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Guillaume Nodet [hidden email] wrote:

 Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set command
 which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.


 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck [hidden email] wrote:

 No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
 Service way of configuring the logger.
 But I think you're able to configure it in the org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
 file to use a logback config.

 regards, Achim


 2013/3/14 Gareth [hidden email]

 Hi,

 Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
 bundled
 with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:

 karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback

 I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
 log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).

 thanks in advance,
 Gareth



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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf

2013-03-14 Thread Ryan Moquin
Hm let me remember.  I think I included it as a maven dependency on my
bundles and it was installed from the generated feature file.  It was a few
months back so I forget all the details.  I wasn't really sure what the
underlying issue was and if maybe it was a first version of it and had a
few quirks to work out.  Either way, it was very weird what happened.  I
think all the versions of logback might have showed up in the features file
as well.  I can't remember though, it might have been a karaf-maven-plugin
issue as well.  I will have to give it another try.

Ryan


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Gareth gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ryan,

 I am curious - How did you install it?

 thanks,
 Gareth

 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Ryan Moquin [via Karaf]
 ml-node+s922171n4028206...@n3.nabble.com wrote:
  FYI, I tried the pax-logging-logback library (not sure if it was 1.7.0 or
  1.7.1 or something), but it went crazy when I installed it.  Literally
 just
  about every bundle version of logback that was ever made ended up
 installed
  and activated there were some other weird things.  I ended up
 deciding
  just to stick with what's there by default though I would like to use
  logback somehow.
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Guillaume Nodet [hidden email] wrote:
 
  Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set
 command
  which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck [hidden email] wrote:
 
  No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
  Service way of configuring the logger.
  But I think you're able to configure it in the
 org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
  file to use a logback config.
 
  regards, Achim
 
 
  2013/3/14 Gareth [hidden email]
 
  Hi,
 
  Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
  bundled
  with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:
 
  karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback
 
  I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features
 (e.g.
  log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).
 
  thanks in advance,
  Gareth
 
 
 
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