[Neo] Neo4j RESTful traversal API

2010-03-22 Thread Alastair James
HI there.

Loving Neo4j, but been putting off using because was no * straightforward*
way to use from PHP. I even started writing my own RESTful API, but never
found the time to finish it off! However, I am excited that there is now a
(semi?) official one in the works, even if it is early days.

I have started a PHP library for accessing neo4j via the REST API... I will
share when its ready.

I can see how most of the functionality works from the Java functional tests
and the application.wadl index. However, there is no mention of any way to
access neo4j's traversal features.

I was wondering how this is planned to work?

In my API I had something like:

node/1/traverse?relationship_type=KNOWS

Which would traverse from node 1 along relationship type 'KNOWS' etc...
However, it started to get complex very quickly as you need separate return
and stop evaluators.

I suppose, the most beautiful method would to to traverse via Gremlin:

/node/1/outE/i...@age27] (obviously URI encoded)

That would be dead sexy. However, I know the gremlin guys seem a little
reluctant to offer a RESTful API (they seem to be stuck in their Java
ways)...

Whats the plan?

Cheers

Alastair
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Re: [Neo] Neo4j RESTful traversal API

2010-03-22 Thread andrew . potter
Alastair,

that sounds very cool. I'm very interested in getting Neo4j to workwith PHP as 
well. And like you I've had to put development onto the back burner for a 
while. I'd like to help somehow but with your specific question about 
traversal, I'm not sure I can be of much help.

I don't know if you've considered the other alternatives. I've added quite a 
bit of info to the Neo-Wiki about using PHP. Maybe you have seen it already. 
I'd give you the direct link but the neo4j website is currently down :(

Mainly I did some testing to show that it is feasible to access ne4j from PHP 
using javabridge. I thionk Peter has developed this further (there is a post 
somewhere in the mailing list). 

Javabride is one alternative. there are two others. One the RESTful API and 
another would be direct integration into the PHP language similar to the way 
MongoDB is integrated. I wanted to experiment with both of theses but haven't 
gotten around to it. I'm glad your'e working in this direction also.

Andy Potter

On Monday 22 March 2010 10:12:38 Alastair James wrote:
 HI there.
 
 Loving Neo4j, but been putting off using because was no * straightforward*
 way to use from PHP. I even started writing my own RESTful API, but never
 found the time to finish it off! However, I am excited that there is now a
 (semi?) official one in the works, even if it is early days.
 
 I have started a PHP library for accessing neo4j via the REST API... I will
 share when its ready.
 
 I can see how most of the functionality works from the Java functional
  tests and the application.wadl index. However, there is no mention of any
  way to access neo4j's traversal features.
 
 I was wondering how this is planned to work?
 
 In my API I had something like:
 
 node/1/traverse?relationship_type=KNOWS
 
 Which would traverse from node 1 along relationship type 'KNOWS' etc...
 However, it started to get complex very quickly as you need separate return
 and stop evaluators.
 
 I suppose, the most beautiful method would to to traverse via Gremlin:
 
 /node/1/outE/i...@age27] (obviously URI encoded)
 
 That would be dead sexy. However, I know the gremlin guys seem a little
 reluctant to offer a RESTful API (they seem to be stuck in their Java
 ways)...
 
 Whats the plan?
 
 Cheers
 
 Alastair
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Re: [Neo] Neo4j RESTful traversal API

2010-03-22 Thread Peter Neubauer
Guys,
we are working on getting the site up again - our provider changed
servers on us! Sorry for the inconvenience!

Regarding REST, we are back on it starting this week, shortly Mattias
will outline our way forward and ask for input from you all, so tune
in and contribute! Good to see some early testers emerging here :)

Cheers,

/peter neubauer

COO and Sales, Neo Technology

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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM,  andrew.pot...@gmx.net wrote:
 Alastair,

 that sounds very cool. I'm very interested in getting Neo4j to workwith PHP as
 well. And like you I've had to put development onto the back burner for a
 while. I'd like to help somehow but with your specific question about
 traversal, I'm not sure I can be of much help.

 I don't know if you've considered the other alternatives. I've added quite a
 bit of info to the Neo-Wiki about using PHP. Maybe you have seen it already.
 I'd give you the direct link but the neo4j website is currently down :(

 Mainly I did some testing to show that it is feasible to access ne4j from PHP
 using javabridge. I thionk Peter has developed this further (there is a post
 somewhere in the mailing list).

 Javabride is one alternative. there are two others. One the RESTful API and
 another would be direct integration into the PHP language similar to the way
 MongoDB is integrated. I wanted to experiment with both of theses but haven't
 gotten around to it. I'm glad your'e working in this direction also.

 Andy Potter

 On Monday 22 March 2010 10:12:38 Alastair James wrote:
 HI there.

 Loving Neo4j, but been putting off using because was no * straightforward*
 way to use from PHP. I even started writing my own RESTful API, but never
 found the time to finish it off! However, I am excited that there is now a
 (semi?) official one in the works, even if it is early days.

 I have started a PHP library for accessing neo4j via the REST API... I will
 share when its ready.

 I can see how most of the functionality works from the Java functional
  tests and the application.wadl index. However, there is no mention of any
  way to access neo4j's traversal features.

 I was wondering how this is planned to work?

 In my API I had something like:

 node/1/traverse?relationship_type=KNOWS

 Which would traverse from node 1 along relationship type 'KNOWS' etc...
 However, it started to get complex very quickly as you need separate return
 and stop evaluators.

 I suppose, the most beautiful method would to to traverse via Gremlin:

 /node/1/outE/i...@age27] (obviously URI encoded)

 That would be dead sexy. However, I know the gremlin guys seem a little
 reluctant to offer a RESTful API (they seem to be stuck in their Java
 ways)...

 Whats the plan?

 Cheers

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Re: [Neo] Unable to memory map

2010-03-22 Thread Tobias Ivarsson
Hi,

We have seen this message before emitted as a warning from Neo4j. Are you
seing this as a warning as well, or are you getting an exception thrown to
your application code?

It's hard to deal with these errors since nio only throws IOException, and
not any more semantic information than that, I believe we deal with all
cases by issuing a warning and then falling back to another method of
performing the same operation, but if you are getting exceptions we need to
resolve it. If you are indeed getting exceptions, some code that triggers it
would be very helpful.

Cheers,
Tobias

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Marc Preddie mpred...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've look at the mailing list and found 1 similar situation, but no real
 solution. So I was hoping someone could shed some light on this.

 I seem to have an issue with neo4j being able to use memory mapped files.
 I've run my service on Win XP 64bit, Mac OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.2 and Centos
 5.x 64bit and always get the same error when launching. I'm using APOC 1.0
 and have a DB of approx 600M. In my neo config I allocate about 5M more for
 each type of file than the actual file size (I've tried multiple different
 settings). On each machine I also leave at least 1.5G for the OS and have
 at
 least 2.5G heap for the Java process. I'm also using the
 classes EmbeddedReadOnlyGraphDatabase and LuceneReadOnlyIndexService to
 access and browse DB.

 Neo config

 neostore.nodestore.db.mapped_memory=10M
 neostore.relationshipstore.db.mapped_memory=110M
 neostore.propertystore.db.mapped_memory=85M
 neostore.propertystore.db.index.mapped_memory=10M
 neostore.propertystore.db.index.keys.mapped_memory=10M
 neostore.propertystore.db.strings.mapped_memory=320M
 neostore.propertystore.db.arrays.mapped_memory=10M

 Here is the error

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.MappedMemException: Unable to map
 pos=3005872 recordSize=33 totalSize=1153416
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.MappedPersistenceWindow.init(MappedPersistenceWindow.java:59)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.PersistenceWindowPool.allocateNewWindow(PersistenceWindowPool.java:530)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.PersistenceWindowPool.refreshBricks(PersistenceWindowPool.java:430)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.PersistenceWindowPool.acquire(PersistenceWindowPool.java:122)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.CommonAbstractStore.acquireWindow(CommonAbstractStore.java:459)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.RelationshipStore.getChainRecord(RelationshipStore.java:248)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.xa.NeoReadTransaction.getMoreRelationships(NeoReadTransaction.java:103)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.xa.NioNeoDbPersistenceSource$ReadOnlyResourceConnection.getMoreRelationships(NioNeoDbPersistenceSource.java:275)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.persistence.PersistenceManager.getMoreRelationships(PersistenceManager.java:93)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeManager.getMoreRelationships(NodeManager.java:585)
 at
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.getMoreRelationships(NodeImpl.java:332)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.ensureFullRelationships(NodeImpl.java:320)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.getAllRelationshipsOfType(NodeImpl.java:129)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.getSingleRelationship(NodeImpl.java:179)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeProxy.getSingleRelationship(NodeProxy.java:98)

 Caused by: java.io.IOException: Access is denied
 at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.truncate0(Native Method)
 at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.map(FileChannelImpl.java:728)
 at

 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.MappedPersistenceWindow.init(MappedPersistenceWindow.java:53)
 ... 78 more


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Re: [Neo] Problems installing neo4j.py

2010-03-22 Thread Erik Ask
No, but I haven't tried especially hard either. Quick check now, the
contents of jython2.5/Lib/site-packages/classes is:
geronimo-jta_1.1_spec.jar
junit.jar
lucene_core.jar
neo4j-commons.jar
neo4j-index.jar
neo4j-kernel.jar
neo4j-remote-graphdb.jar


import works fine, its not until i actually do something that i get
errors, so it seems to find the installed wrappers, jython
site-packages is added to my pythonpath.

I haven't installed any pure java version of Neo4j. I do have a jvm. I
am however using python 2.6 instead of 2.5, Due to the lack of
packaged python2.5 for opensuse.

The working instance i have of neo4j.py is using Jpype/Cpython method
on an Ubuntu based machine, haven't tried the other way around (jython
on ubuntu, Jpype on suse).

btw
I just realized that I'm probably switching back and forth using my
work mail and private mail in this and other discussions, hope that
doesn't cause problems.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Tobias Ivarsson
tobias.ivars...@neotechnology.com wrote:
 Did you make any progress on this? I haven't been able to reproduce the
 problem.

 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Erik Ask ask.e...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm away from the computer in question now, but I did have that
 directory, and it did contain files. I've also tried installing to a
 directory in my home directory, i.e. no sudo involved, and everything
 seemed to install just fine. But still no backend when actually
 running.

 Is there a list of the files needed to be in that directory



 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Tobias Ivarsson
 tobias.ivars...@neotechnology.com wrote:
  Your previous error indicated that the dependencies directory could not
 be
  created during the setup, this is where all the java libraries gets
  downloaded to. Could you make sure that your Neo4j python install
 directory
  (seems to be /usr/local/jython/Lib/site-packages/neo4j in your case)
  contains a directory called classes, and that it contains the necessary
  jar-files? Since this directory contains jar-files and not class-files,
 it
  will not work as CLASSPATH, so your CLASSPATH setting does not add
 anything.
  The Neo4j python bindings will automatically discover the jar files in
 this
  directory and add them to sys.path in Jython, so you don't have to manage
  the CLASSPATH on your own.
 
  -Tobias
 
  On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Erik Ask erik...@maths.lth.se wrote:
 
  Tobias Ivarsson wrote:
   It looks very strange. Which version of Jython are you using?
  
   On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Erik Ask ask.e...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   Hello, I'm having trouble installing neo4j.py
  
  
   sudo jython setup.py install
  
   root's password:
   warning: /root/.jython is a directory, not a file
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar, '/usr/local/jython/jython.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/resources.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/rt.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/jsse.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/jce.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/charsets.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/ext/localedata.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/ext/sunpkcs11.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/ext/dnsns.jar'
   *sys-package-mgr*: processing new jar,
   '/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun-1.6.0/jre/lib/ext/sunjce_provider.jar'
   Traceback (most recent call last):
    File setup.py, line 146, in module
      main()
    File setup.py, line 104, in main
      for dependency,include in
  pom.download_dependencies(dependencies_path):
    File /usr/matematik/erikask/python/neo4j-python/pom.py, line 67,
   in download_dependencies
      os.mkdir(destination)
    File /usr/local/jython/Lib/os.py, line 309, in mkdir
      raise OSError(err, msg, path)
   OSError: [Errno 0] couldn't make directory: 'dependencies'
  
   Does this look familiar to anyone??
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  2.5.1 Just installed it from their homepage
 
  I was actually able to finish the installation by rerunning it without
  sudo, checking what directories weren't created
  (/usr/local/jython/Lib/site-packages/neo4j in this case) crating them,
  sudo chmod a+w. I'm guessing it relates to the system setup I have with
  some discs being nfs mounted with other root accounts (although none of
  those were involved in this so I'm not sure)
 
  Now I'm getting another error instead (while running a script):
 
  Traceback (most recent call last):
    

Re: [Neo] Neo4j RESTful traversal API

2010-03-22 Thread Peter Neubauer
Btw,
the wiki etc is up again - sorry for the inconvenience!

Cheers,

/peter neubauer

COO and Sales, Neo Technology

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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Peter Neubauer
neubauer.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guys,
 we are working on getting the site up again - our provider changed
 servers on us! Sorry for the inconvenience!

 Regarding REST, we are back on it starting this week, shortly Mattias
 will outline our way forward and ask for input from you all, so tune
 in and contribute! Good to see some early testers emerging here :)

 Cheers,

 /peter neubauer

 COO and Sales, Neo Technology

 GTalk:      neubauer.peter
 Skype       peter.neubauer
 Phone       +46 704 106975
 LinkedIn   http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer
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 http://www.tinkerpop.com      - Processing for Internet-scale graphs.
 http://www.thoughtmade.com - Scandinavias coolest Bring-a-Thing party.



 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM,  andrew.pot...@gmx.net wrote:
 Alastair,

 that sounds very cool. I'm very interested in getting Neo4j to workwith PHP 
 as
 well. And like you I've had to put development onto the back burner for a
 while. I'd like to help somehow but with your specific question about
 traversal, I'm not sure I can be of much help.

 I don't know if you've considered the other alternatives. I've added quite a
 bit of info to the Neo-Wiki about using PHP. Maybe you have seen it already.
 I'd give you the direct link but the neo4j website is currently down :(

 Mainly I did some testing to show that it is feasible to access ne4j from PHP
 using javabridge. I thionk Peter has developed this further (there is a post
 somewhere in the mailing list).

 Javabride is one alternative. there are two others. One the RESTful API and
 another would be direct integration into the PHP language similar to the way
 MongoDB is integrated. I wanted to experiment with both of theses but haven't
 gotten around to it. I'm glad your'e working in this direction also.

 Andy Potter

 On Monday 22 March 2010 10:12:38 Alastair James wrote:
 HI there.

 Loving Neo4j, but been putting off using because was no * straightforward*
 way to use from PHP. I even started writing my own RESTful API, but never
 found the time to finish it off! However, I am excited that there is now a
 (semi?) official one in the works, even if it is early days.

 I have started a PHP library for accessing neo4j via the REST API... I will
 share when its ready.

 I can see how most of the functionality works from the Java functional
  tests and the application.wadl index. However, there is no mention of any
  way to access neo4j's traversal features.

 I was wondering how this is planned to work?

 In my API I had something like:

 node/1/traverse?relationship_type=KNOWS

 Which would traverse from node 1 along relationship type 'KNOWS' etc...
 However, it started to get complex very quickly as you need separate return
 and stop evaluators.

 I suppose, the most beautiful method would to to traverse via Gremlin:

 /node/1/outE/i...@age27] (obviously URI encoded)

 That would be dead sexy. However, I know the gremlin guys seem a little
 reluctant to offer a RESTful API (they seem to be stuck in their Java
 ways)...

 Whats the plan?

 Cheers

 Alastair
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Re: [Neo] Neo4j RESTful traversal API

2010-03-22 Thread Alastair James
Cheers Peter.

Al

On 22 March 2010 15:26, Peter Neubauer neubauer.pe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Btw,
 the wiki etc is up again - sorry for the inconvenience!

 Cheers,

 /peter neubauer

 COO and Sales, Neo Technology

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 Skype   peter.neubauer
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 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Peter Neubauer
 neubauer.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
  Guys,
  we are working on getting the site up again - our provider changed
  servers on us! Sorry for the inconvenience!
 
  Regarding REST, we are back on it starting this week, shortly Mattias
  will outline our way forward and ask for input from you all, so tune
  in and contribute! Good to see some early testers emerging here :)
 
  Cheers,
 
  /peter neubauer
 
  COO and Sales, Neo Technology
 
  GTalk:  neubauer.peter
  Skype   peter.neubauer
  Phone   +46 704 106975
  LinkedIn   http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer
  Twitter  http://twitter.com/peterneubauer
 
  http://www.neo4j.org - Your high performance graph database.
  http://www.tinkerpop.com  - Processing for Internet-scale graphs.
  http://www.thoughtmade.com - Scandinavias coolest Bring-a-Thing party.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM,  andrew.pot...@gmx.net wrote:
  Alastair,
 
  that sounds very cool. I'm very interested in getting Neo4j to workwith
 PHP as
  well. And like you I've had to put development onto the back burner for
 a
  while. I'd like to help somehow but with your specific question about
  traversal, I'm not sure I can be of much help.
 
  I don't know if you've considered the other alternatives. I've added
 quite a
  bit of info to the Neo-Wiki about using PHP. Maybe you have seen it
 already.
  I'd give you the direct link but the neo4j website is currently down :(
 
  Mainly I did some testing to show that it is feasible to access ne4j
 from PHP
  using javabridge. I thionk Peter has developed this further (there is a
 post
  somewhere in the mailing list).
 
  Javabride is one alternative. there are two others. One the RESTful API
 and
  another would be direct integration into the PHP language similar to the
 way
  MongoDB is integrated. I wanted to experiment with both of theses but
 haven't
  gotten around to it. I'm glad your'e working in this direction also.
 
  Andy Potter
 
  On Monday 22 March 2010 10:12:38 Alastair James wrote:
  HI there.
 
  Loving Neo4j, but been putting off using because was no *
 straightforward*
  way to use from PHP. I even started writing my own RESTful API, but
 never
  found the time to finish it off! However, I am excited that there is
 now a
  (semi?) official one in the works, even if it is early days.
 
  I have started a PHP library for accessing neo4j via the REST API... I
 will
  share when its ready.
 
  I can see how most of the functionality works from the Java functional
   tests and the application.wadl index. However, there is no mention of
 any
   way to access neo4j's traversal features.
 
  I was wondering how this is planned to work?
 
  In my API I had something like:
 
  node/1/traverse?relationship_type=KNOWS
 
  Which would traverse from node 1 along relationship type 'KNOWS' etc...
  However, it started to get complex very quickly as you need separate
 return
  and stop evaluators.
 
  I suppose, the most beautiful method would to to traverse via Gremlin:
 
  /node/1/outE/i...@age27] (obviously URI encoded)
 
  That would be dead sexy. However, I know the gremlin guys seem a little
  reluctant to offer a RESTful API (they seem to be stuck in their Java
  ways)...
 
  Whats the plan?
 
  Cheers
 
  Alastair
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[Neo] Indexing on Doubles in Neo4j

2010-03-22 Thread Alex D'Amour
Hello all,

I'm working on an application where it would be nice to perform lookups on a
graph database based on real-valued properties.

For example, if I have a social network, and have assigned real-valued
centrality measures to each node, I'd like to be able to choose all vertices
whose centrality measure is greater than some threshold.

I see that the Timeline index service offers this for integer-valued
properties. Is there something similar (or in the pipeline) for doing the
same with real-valued properties? Is there an easy way to adapt one of the
current indexing utilities to do this (besides multiplying by 10^n for
sufficiently large n and then rounding)?

Thanks,
Alex D'Amour
Harvard Institute for Quantitative Social Science
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Re: [Neo] Indexing on Doubles in Neo4j

2010-03-22 Thread Rick Bullotta
Maybe this?

http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j-graph-algo/apidocs/org/neo4j/graphalgo/cen
trality/package-summary.html


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Subject: [Neo] Indexing on Doubles in Neo4j

Hello all,

I'm working on an application where it would be nice to perform lookups on a
graph database based on real-valued properties.

For example, if I have a social network, and have assigned real-valued
centrality measures to each node, I'd like to be able to choose all vertices
whose centrality measure is greater than some threshold.

I see that the Timeline index service offers this for integer-valued
properties. Is there something similar (or in the pipeline) for doing the
same with real-valued properties? Is there an easy way to adapt one of the
current indexing utilities to do this (besides multiplying by 10^n for
sufficiently large n and then rounding)?

Thanks,
Alex D'Amour
Harvard Institute for Quantitative Social Science
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Re: [Neo] Unable to memory map

2010-03-22 Thread Marc Preddie
Hi,

Previous to the 1.0 release, there was just a warning message, now with the
1.0 release there is a warning message, along with an exception describing
the warning. Everything still works, but we would really like and need the
performance boost that memory mapping may provide.

I'll try to get a small sample (code and db)  to you in the next day or so.

Regards,
Marc

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Tobias Ivarsson 
tobias.ivars...@neotechnology.com wrote:

 Hi,

 We have seen this message before emitted as a warning from Neo4j. Are you
 seing this as a warning as well, or are you getting an exception thrown to
 your application code?

 It's hard to deal with these errors since nio only throws IOException, and
 not any more semantic information than that, I believe we deal with all
 cases by issuing a warning and then falling back to another method of
 performing the same operation, but if you are getting exceptions we need to
 resolve it. If you are indeed getting exceptions, some code that triggers
 it
 would be very helpful.

 Cheers,
 Tobias

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Marc Preddie mpred...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I've look at the mailing list and found 1 similar situation, but no real
  solution. So I was hoping someone could shed some light on this.
 
  I seem to have an issue with neo4j being able to use memory mapped files.
  I've run my service on Win XP 64bit, Mac OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.2 and
 Centos
  5.x 64bit and always get the same error when launching. I'm using APOC
 1.0
  and have a DB of approx 600M. In my neo config I allocate about 5M more
 for
  each type of file than the actual file size (I've tried multiple
 different
  settings). On each machine I also leave at least 1.5G for the OS and have
  at
  least 2.5G heap for the Java process. I'm also using the
  classes EmbeddedReadOnlyGraphDatabase and LuceneReadOnlyIndexService to
  access and browse DB.
 
  Neo config
 
  neostore.nodestore.db.mapped_memory=10M
  neostore.relationshipstore.db.mapped_memory=110M
  neostore.propertystore.db.mapped_memory=85M
  neostore.propertystore.db.index.mapped_memory=10M
  neostore.propertystore.db.index.keys.mapped_memory=10M
  neostore.propertystore.db.strings.mapped_memory=320M
  neostore.propertystore.db.arrays.mapped_memory=10M
 
  Here is the error
 
  org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.MappedMemException: Unable to map
  pos=3005872 recordSize=33 totalSize=1153416
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.MappedPersistenceWindow.init(MappedPersistenceWindow.java:59)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.PersistenceWindowPool.allocateNewWindow(PersistenceWindowPool.java:530)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.PersistenceWindowPool.refreshBricks(PersistenceWindowPool.java:430)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.PersistenceWindowPool.acquire(PersistenceWindowPool.java:122)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.CommonAbstractStore.acquireWindow(CommonAbstractStore.java:459)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.RelationshipStore.getChainRecord(RelationshipStore.java:248)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.xa.NeoReadTransaction.getMoreRelationships(NeoReadTransaction.java:103)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.xa.NioNeoDbPersistenceSource$ReadOnlyResourceConnection.getMoreRelationships(NioNeoDbPersistenceSource.java:275)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.persistence.PersistenceManager.getMoreRelationships(PersistenceManager.java:93)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeManager.getMoreRelationships(NodeManager.java:585)
  at
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.getMoreRelationships(NodeImpl.java:332)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.ensureFullRelationships(NodeImpl.java:320)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.getAllRelationshipsOfType(NodeImpl.java:129)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeImpl.getSingleRelationship(NodeImpl.java:179)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.core.NodeProxy.getSingleRelationship(NodeProxy.java:98)
 
  Caused by: java.io.IOException: Access is denied
  at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.truncate0(Native Method)
  at sun.nio.ch.FileChannelImpl.map(FileChannelImpl.java:728)
  at
 
 
 org.neo4j.kernel.impl.nioneo.store.MappedPersistenceWindow.init(MappedPersistenceWindow.java:53)
  ... 78 more
 
 
  Regards
  Marc
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Re: [Neo] Something fun to try in neo4j : collatz conjecture

2010-03-22 Thread Laurent Laborde
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Laurent Laborde kerdez...@gmail.com wrote:
 thank you peter.
 Following the various link, i found http://www.cytoscape.org/
 Look very promising !! i'll try this weekend :)

3 days later, i'm still populating neo4j like a crazy, trying to
compute the collatz conjecture up to 100 millions.
i'm at 63.5 millions, but it's now much much slower than at the beginning.

probably because of the insane numbers of index.getSingleNode on
lucene on a growing index.
i'm expecting something like a billion of node when it will reach 100 millions.

the index is 6GB and the base is 9GB.
The cpu usage is now ~10% instead of 25%, i have a grand total of 9+6
GB of data in the neo4j drectory with only 8GB on ram on my windows 7
i'm now (random) IO bound.

My SATA velociraptor 10krpm is fighting at 1MB/s (not so bad;
considering it's highly mixed R/W and purely random IO)

time to buy a 32GB SSD :)

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Re: [Neo] displaying very large graph

2010-03-22 Thread Jonny Wray
A couple I've come across recently that I'd never seen mentioned before:

http://gephi.org/

http://www.ondex.org/

Jonny

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Laurent Laborde kerdez...@gmail.comwrote:

 i found a page that link a lot of graph visualisation tools :
 http://www.mkbergman.com/414/large-scale-rdf-graph-visualization-tools/

 i'll dig it this weekend :)

 --
 Ker2x

 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Laurent Laborde kerdez...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Friendly greetings !
 
  i wish to display very large graph. ( hundreds of thousands of node,
  or many millions of node if possible).
  - graphviz probably won't do it.
  - my processing app is 100% sure to explode
 
  i found that, but didn't tried it yet :
  http://bioinformatics.icmb.utexas.edu/lgl/
  Large Graph Layout
 
  the gallery is impressive, with huge graph and millions of edges.
  But it seems that i have to provide the coordinate of the nodes/edges,
  which is exactly my problem.
  i don't know the math/algorithm to compute the best way to display
  graphs. my processing code use simple physics rule (spring and node
  repulsion) but it's very very very slow :(
 
  Any tought ?
  Thank you :)
 
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