Re: Error uploading .pdf document to Whiteboard in 6.3.0 - additional info:

[info]

Hello,

I tried modifying the file /etc/ImageMagick-6/policy.xml but that didn't 
work (unless that file is still in some kind of OP cache ?) - I noticed 
that there appeared to be errors in the file settings - I have commented 
at the end of line:


  
should this be "anonymous" ?
 this was 
originally "256MiB" - isn't that syntax wrong ?


 this was 
originally "256MiB" - isn't that syntax wrong ?
  this was originally 
"256MiB" - isn't that syntax wrong ?




 this was 
originally "128MiB" - isn't that syntax wrong ?
 this was originally 
"128MiB" - isn't that syntax wrong ?






 
 Do I need to uncomment this and give read|write rights here?






  I commented this out and added:




I have never modified this file before and am unsure of the syntax 
needed and why "anonymous" is placed as a value.


Am I doing the right thing, or making a mistake here?

Best,

Ed

On , Maxim Solodovnik wrote:


Hello Ed,

I guess there is something wrong with PDF and/or ImageMagic 

I would check
1) file 
"/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf" 
exists and it is valid PDF

2) try to run ```
convert -density 150 -define pdf:use-cropbox=true 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf 
+profile '*' -quality 90 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png

``` from terminal at OM server and check the output :)

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 16:41,  wrote:

Hi,

Using 6.3.0 : when I try to upload a very small .pdf file, I receive 
this error (and it does not display on the Whiteboard):


THERE WERE ERRORS WHILE PROCESSING THE FILE

FILE IS NOT FOUND

EXIT VALUE
CONVERSION MESSAGES

1
process: convert PDF to images command: convert -density 150 -define 
pdf:use-cropbox=true 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf 
+profile '*' -quality 90 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png 
exception: null error: convert-im6.q16: no images defined 
`/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png' 
@ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3229. exitValue: 1 optional: 
false out:


Is this a bug?

Best,

Ed


  --

Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Error uploading .pdf document to Whiteboard in 6.3.0

[info]

Hello,

Thanks for your response.

The file exists, and it is a valid .pdf - when downlaoded it opens fine 
on my windows desktop.


Running that command produced this:

root@server1:~# convert -density 150 -define pdf:use-cropbox=true 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf 
+profile '*' -quality 90 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png
convert-im6.q16: no images defined 
`/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png' 
@ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3229.

root@server1:~#

I can try to adjust the settings for Image Magik . If you have any more 
ideas about the problem, please let me know.


Can someone also running 6.3.0 check that this functionality - uploading 
a 385 Kb .pdf file works ?


I have tried this on both a test server with 2 V cores and 4 GB ram as 
well as a production server with more than enough cpu and memory (RAm) 
and both give the same error (on the larger production server I saw a 
different error message with more information about unable to allocate 
memory. When uploading the file, it seems to stall at 50% converting):


THERE WERE ERRORS WHILE PROCESSING THE FILE

EXIT VALUE
CONVERSION MESSAGES

1
 		process: convert PDF to images command: convert -density 150 -define 
pdf:use-cropbox=true 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/e9d51059-d88a-49c5-a45e-ef01ef594a2b/e9d51059-d88a-49c5-a45e-ef01ef594a2b.pdf 
+profile '*' -quality 90 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/e9d51059-d88a-49c5-a45e-ef01ef594a2b/page-%04d.png 
exception: null error: convert-im6.q16: cache resources exhausted 
`/tmp/magick-UGYVgAX4kMaiZEYbG_UUxvTtwTVd8DEa4' @ 
error/cache.c/OpenPixelCache/4095. convert-im6.q16: cache resources 
exhausted 
`/opt/om_data/upload/files/e9d51059-d88a-49c5-a45e-ef01ef594a2b/page-%04d.png' 
@ error/cache.c/OpenPixelCache/4095. convert-im6.q16: memory allocation 
failed 
`/opt/om_data/upload/files/e9d51059-d88a-49c5-a45e-ef01ef594a2b/page-%04d.png' 
@ error/png.c/WriteOnePNGImage/9144. convert-im6.q16: No IDATs written 
into file 
`/opt/om_data/upload/files/e9d51059-d88a-49c5-a45e-ef01ef594a2b/page-.png' 
@ error/png.c/MagickPNGErrorHandler/1642. exitValue: 1 optional: false 
out:


Does this help?

Ed

On , Maxim Solodovnik wrote:


Hello Ed,

I guess there is something wrong with PDF and/or ImageMagic 

I would check
1) file 
"/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf" 
exists and it is valid PDF

2) try to run ```
convert -density 150 -define pdf:use-cropbox=true 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf 
+profile '*' -quality 90 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png

``` from terminal at OM server and check the output :)

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 16:41,  wrote:

Hi,

Using 6.3.0 : when I try to upload a very small .pdf file, I receive 
this error (and it does not display on the Whiteboard):


THERE WERE ERRORS WHILE PROCESSING THE FILE

FILE IS NOT FOUND

EXIT VALUE
CONVERSION MESSAGES

1
process: convert PDF to images command: convert -density 150 -define 
pdf:use-cropbox=true 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf 
+profile '*' -quality 90 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png 
exception: null error: convert-im6.q16: no images defined 
`/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png' 
@ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3229. exitValue: 1 optional: 
false out:


Is this a bug?

Best,

Ed


  --

Best regards,
Maxim

Error uploading .pdf document to Whiteboard in 6.3.0

[info]

Hi,

Using 6.3.0 : when I try to upload a very small .pdf file, I receive 
this error (and it does not display on the Whiteboard):


THERE WERE ERRORS WHILE PROCESSING THE FILE

FILE IS NOT FOUND

EXIT VALUE
CONVERSION MESSAGES

1
process: convert PDF to images command: convert -density 150 -define 
pdf:use-cropbox=true 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a.pdf 
+profile '*' -quality 90 
/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png 
exception: null error: convert-im6.q16: no images defined 
`/opt/om_data/upload/files/d3615d92-6778-4074-a1c6-c441419d024a/page-%04d.png' 
@ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3229. exitValue: 1 optional: 
false out:


Is this a bug?

Best,

Ed

Re: 6.3.0 install / upgrade problems with too many redirects - browser blocks

[info]

 Hello,

I'm just trying to make a few suggestions based on my personal  
experience in installing and / or upgrading 6.3.0 the opther day. I  
think we all want the maximum uptake of this software project, right?  
Well, it was so frustrating not to get the web-based installer to work  
- that I finally gave up trying to use it. The error too many  
redirects from the browser, and the "notinitied" added to the end of  
"openmeetings" in the url - (I assume this is java adding this - and I  
would love to know what it means) - was a bad experience. Since I  
experienced this on firefox, edge and chrome and opera - I feel that  
there must be a real problem somewhere - that is going to alienate the  
average potential user who tries an install. I don't have the  
slightest idea of how to fix it.


As for the terminal command line install - that was very helpful, and  
because it threw so many errors because of: 1) my usage of strong  
passwords (I forgot that special characters had to be escaped in  
bash), and 2) the example wasn't good, and didn't give explanations  
about the order of things. 


I would urge that the text about this method of installing show a note  
that special characters in passwords have to be escaped, with an  
example. Shoud they be enclused in single quotation marks, like pass  
=  'pass=' or can each special character be escaped as in pass =  
pass\= ? 


I tried to follow the example (I am not an advanced bash user), and it  
ended up giving the password that I use for smtp port 587 emal  
authorization as the password of the OpenMeetings admin user! - so the  
order of things wasn't clear enough to me. How about listing something  
like (as a general guide to first time installers via the command line  
that would be sufficient for most purposes, like):


(could someone verify that this is correct, please?): (and give an  
illustration of using a password with special characters, please)?  
(thanks)


replace every [abcde] with your data, omitting the braces:  
  
 ./admin.sh -i -v -tz Europe/Berlin -email [admin email address]  
-group webbase -user [admin user name] --password [admin user  
password] --smtp-server localhost --smtp-port 587 --db-type mysql  
--db-name [openmeeting database name] --db-user [openmeetings database  
user] --db-pass [openmeetings database password] --email-auth-user  
[email user for smtp authentication]  --system-email-address [what is  
this and why necessary?] --email-use-tls yes --db-user root --db-host  
localhost --email-auth-pass [password for smtp authentication]

  

 I think clarifying this guide and fixing the install info so it  
works flawlessly first time would really help with profect adoption by  
the general webmaster user.


Best regards,

 Ed

Quoting Alvaro :


Hello Ed,
Good you got it!

Maxim will answare you.

Best

Alvaro

---

On Tue, 05 Jul 2022 12:00:28 +
i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:


Hello Alvaro,

I installed finally with the command line and I think there is a
mistake that soemone might want to correct. I use very strong
passwords with lots of special characters (like ! _ ) = etc) and I had
to remove all the special characters from my passwords in the command.
Is this normal - not accepting special characters in passwords for a
command line install?

Best,

  Ed

Quoting Alvaro :

...are you try with java 11 or 17?
It depend your OS.
If Java 17 then try java 11

..

On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 10:19:30 +
i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:

I am having to waste a lot of time with the 6.3.0 install - bno
matter what I do with my browser, I get the error:

ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

and  the word  notinited
is added to the url when I try to go through the web based installer:
as in

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings [1][1] redirects to

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings/notinited

I have downloaded completely now browsers, and set them to the most
unsafe settings and to the default settings, I have cleared the
cookies and cache and history ...

This is absurd. Is there a direct path to call the install script ?

Is having coturn installed and / or running during an upgrade - can
that cause this?

I can neither install nor upgrade because of this absurd problem? Why
so may redirects?  

Ed

--

Links:
--
[1] https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings%C2%A0


--



 


Links:
--
[1] https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings%C2%A0

Re: 6.3.0 install / upgrade problems with too many redirects - browser blocks

[info]

 Hello Alvaro,

I installed finally with the command line and I think there is a  
mistake that soemone might want to correct. I use very strong  
passwords with lots of special characters (like ! _ ) = etc) and I had  
to remove all the special characters from my passwords in the command.  
Is this normal - not accepting special characters in passwords for a  
command line install?


Best,

 Ed

Quoting Alvaro :


...are you try with java 11 or 17?
It depend your OS.
If Java 17 then try java 11

..

On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 10:19:30 +
i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:


I am having to waste a lot of time with the 6.3.0 install - bno
matter what I do with my browser, I get the error:

ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

and  the word  notinited
is added to the url when I try to go through the web based installer:
as in

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings [1] redirects to

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings/notinited

I have downloaded completely now browsers, and set them to the most
unsafe settings and to the default settings, I have cleared the
cookies and cache and history ...

This is absurd. Is there a direct path to call the install script ?

Is having coturn installed and / or running during an upgrade - can
that cause this?

I can neither install nor upgrade because of this absurd problem? Why
so may redirects?  

Ed


--




Links:
--
[1] https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings%C2%A0

Re: 6.3.0 install / upgrade problems with too many redirects - browser blocks

[info]

 Hello,

I was trying with Java 17, of course since I am on bullseye and  
installing / upgrading 630 and I followed your tutorial. I have now  
tried with Java 11 and the error is still produced with the same  
/notinited added on to the end of the url, and the same browser error  
message: Too Many Redirects.


Does the fact that the server only has a self-signed ssl cert matter?  

This is pretty sad. Is the exact URL for an install:   
https://example.com:5443/openmeetings/install   ?


Thanks,

Ed

Quoting Alvaro :


...are you try with java 11 or 17?
It depend your OS.
If Java 17 then try java 11

..

On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 10:19:30 +
i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:


I am having to waste a lot of time with the 6.3.0 install - bno
matter what I do with my browser, I get the error:

ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

and  the word  notinited
is added to the url when I try to go through the web based installer:
as in

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings [1] redirects to

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings/notinited

I have downloaded completely now browsers, and set them to the most
unsafe settings and to the default settings, I have cleared the
cookies and cache and history ...

This is absurd. Is there a direct path to call the install script ?

Is having coturn installed and / or running during an upgrade - can
that cause this?

I can neither install nor upgrade because of this absurd problem? Why
so may redirects?  

Ed


--




Links:
--
[1] https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings%C2%A0

6.3.0 install / upgrade problems with too many redirects - browser blocks

[info]

 I am having to waste a lot of time with the 6.3.0 install - bno  
matter what I do with my browser, I get the error:


ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

and  the word  notinited
is added to the url when I try to go through the web based installer:
as in

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings  redirects to

https://ipv4:5443/openmeetings/notinited

I have downloaded completely now browsers, and set them to the most  
unsafe settings and to the default settings, I have cleared the  
cookies and cache and history ...


This is absurd. Is there a direct path to call the install script ?

Is having coturn installed and / or running during an upgrade - can  
that cause this?


I can neither install nor upgrade because of this absurd problem? Why  
so may redirects?  


Ed

Re: Testing OM 7.0.0 #.....

[info]

Ill also try setting this up for a test: 


https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-use-mac-instances-to-build-test-macos-ios-ipados-tvos-and-watchos-apps/

On 19/04/2022 08:47, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

I guess it might be VNC
Or maybe there are some other options for remote controlling Mac (I'm
not sure, I'm not the Mac user)

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 at 14:39, Ali Alhaidary  wrote:
>
> Ready and willing, how?
>
> Ali
>
> On 4/19/22 09:40, Alvaro wrote:
>> Maxim, you know the problem with my hacker :(
>> I am sorry.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 13:15:11 +0700
>> Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
>>
>>> It seems I need help :)
>>>
>>> can anyone give me remote access to the Mac with Safari 15.4 ?
>>>
>>> the access can be very limited I need browser only :)
>>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 at 13:10, Alvaro  wrote:
> is the issue reproducible at demo-next?
 Yes, in the three demo servers.


 --


 On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:19:11 +0700
 Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

> It seems I need to find latest Safari for remote debug :(
>
> BTW is the issue reproducible at demo-next?
>
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 at 01:09, Ali Alhaidary  
wrote:
>> Although we dropped using safari long time ago and advice only using FF
>> or chrome on apple devices, but the room screen still does not show
>> properly on safari 15.4 with build #100.
>>
>> Ali
>>
>> On 4/18/22 08:25, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>> Are you using existing DB? or create default empty DB for each 
installation?
>>>
>>> Can you please check the values of
>>> 1) `header.csp.style`
>>> 2) `header.csp.enabled`
>>>
>>> in Admin -> Config ? :))
>>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 13:53, Alvaro  wrote:
 ...Is the login page looks the same if the page is reloaded (Cmd+R) ?
 yes

 ...Are there any errors in JS console?
 In the five errors that JS Consaole show , say the same:

 "Refuse to load ... because it does not appear in the style-src
 directive of the Content Security Police"

 In the Jira:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2724

 ...can see the capture about it :)


 ---



 On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 13:15:44 +0700
 Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

> Thanks for continuous testing Alvaro!
>
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 01:48, Alvaro  wrote:
>>  OM 7.0.0 #99 
>>
>> # Server OM 7.0.0 #99 - Ubuntu 18.04
>>
>> # Client A:  Firefox 99 - Chrome 99 - Ubuntu 18.04
>>
>> # Client B:  Firefox 99 - Chrome 99 - Safari 15.4 - Yandex 22 - OSx 
12.3.1
>>
>> ...everything i´ve tested works as expected, except
>> Safari 15.4 on OSx 12.3.1. The login page looks unstructured.
>>
> Is the login page looks the same if the page is reloaded (Cmd+R) ?
> Are there any errors in JS console?
>
>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:40:13 +0100
>> Alvaro  wrote:
>>
>>> ### OM 7.0.0 #93 ###
>>>
>>> # Server OM 7.0.0 #93 - Ubuntu 18.04
>>>
>>> # Client A:  Firefox 99 - Chrome 99 - Ubuntu 18.04
>>>
>>> # Client B(1):  Firefox 98 - Chrome 99 - Safari 15.3 - Yandex 22 - 
OSx 11.6.5
>>>
>>>  Client B(2):  Firefox 98 - Chrome 99 - Safari 15.4 - Yandex 22 
- OSx 12.3
>>>
>>> ...everything i´ve tested works as expected, except
>>> Safari 15.4 on OSx 12.3. The login page looks unstructured.
>>> I´ve created a Jira about this with an attached capture.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>> --
>>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
 --

>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim

 --

>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>

playing an m4a filetype

[info]

Hello,

OpenMeetings doesn't play a very common type of audio file: M4a by  
default. Will it play this filetype if I make any configuration  
changes? Is it possible to get OpenMeetings 6.2.0 to play an M4a file?


Best,

Ed

Re: letsencrypt on openmeetings docker

[info]

Have you done this before, any chance I can see your sample ?

Thanks,
Dan 


On 17/01/2022 17:10, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

Yes, sure :)
You can modify 'docker' file and rebuild
Or mount 'conf' folder and perform necessary changes :)


from mobile (sorry for typos ;)

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 23:46 Daniel Baker > wrote:


Are the instructions  for installing lets encrypt on Ubuntu the same
for
your  docker image?

Thanks,
Dan

Re: log4j vulnerability

[info]

A search on our open meetings server (6.2.0) for apache log4j 
vulnerabilities:


find / -type f -print0 |xargs -n1 -0 zipgrep -i log4j2 2>/dev/null

produced these results:

  com/hazelcast/logging/Logger.class:Binary file (standard input) 
matches

  com/hazelcast/logging/Log4j2Factory$Log4j2Logger.class:Binary file
(standard input) matches
  com/hazelcast/logging/Log4j2Factory.class:Binary file (standard
input) matches
  META-INF/maven/com.hazelcast/hazelcast/pom.xml:Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â
${log4j2.version}
  META-INF/maven/com.hazelcast/hazelcast/pom.xml:Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â
${log4j2.version}
  io/netty/util/internal/logging/Log4J2Logger$2.class:Binary file
(standard input) matches
  io/netty/util/internal/logging/Log4J2Logger.class:Binary file
(standard input) matches
  io/netty/util/internal/logging/Log4J2LoggerFactory.class:Binary file
(standard input) matches
  io/netty/util/internal/logging/Log4J2Logger$1.class:Binary file
(standard input) matches
  io/netty/util/internal/logging/InternalLoggerFactory.class:Binary
file (standard input) matches
  com/mchange/v2/log/MLog$1.class:Binary file (standard input) matches
  com/mchange/v2/log/log4j2/MLogAppender.class:Binary file (standard
input) matches
  com/mchange/v2/log/log4j2/Log4j2MLog$Log4jMLogger.class:Binary file
(standard input) matches
  com/mchange/v2/log/MLogClasses.class:Binary file (standard input) 
matches

  com/mchange/v2/log/log4j2/Log4j2MLog.class:Binary file (standard
input) matches

META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties:org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory
org.apache.maven.cli.logging.impl.Log4j2Configuration
  org/apache/maven/cli/logging/impl/Log4j2Configuration$1.class:Binary
file (standard input) matches
  org/apache/maven/cli/logging/impl/Log4j2Configuration.class:Binary
file (standard input) matches

This is 6.2.0 which hasn't changed in months. Can you be sure that
there isn't a  problem in 6.2.0 ?

Best,


  Ed

Le 2021-12-13 01:50, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit :

Yes,
We are not affected

To get most updated version you can use  latest SNAPSHOT :)

from mobile (sorry for typos ;)

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 04:21 Thomas Scholzen 
wrote:


Hi Sebastian,

thank you for your assessment and quick response.

Best regards,
Thomas

Am 12.12.21 um 22:05 schrieb seba.wag...@gmail.com:

Afaik we are not using the native log4j library. I think the
vulnerability is only in the actual log4j.jar file.

log4j-over-slf4j is merely a bridge that mimics log4j APIs in order
to redirect the log stream into slf4j without rewriting the existing
log4j logging statements. The bridge ensures old dependencies that
have not been migrated to SLF4J can work with Openmeetings.

So OpenMeetings is not using or distributing the native log4j JAR
library. Also the Tomat version we are using that bundles
OpenMeetings into a Java Servlet Container is not affected since
it's not using the native log4j jar file.

So as far as I can see this vulnerability should not impact
OpenMeetings.

However OpenMeetings regularly ships updates with the latest
libraries and dependencies, so if you are not using the latest
version, you should update. There have been other CVE's fixed in
recent versions.

Thanks
Sebastian

Sebastian Wagner

Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/

https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
[1] [2]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 07:29, Thomas Scholzen 
wrote:

Openmeetings has, among others, the following dependencies:

log4j-over-slf4j-1.7.32.jar
slf4j-api-1.7.32.jar
jcl-over-slf4j-1.7.32.jar

Does anyone know, whether these are affected by the log4j
vulnerability CVE-2021-44228 and have to be updated?

Thanks,
Thomas



Links:
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[1]
https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
[2]
https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url

Re: New installation tutorials OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on different OSes

[info]

Just exploring how containers can help. 


On 31/10/2021 09:39, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:



from mobile (sorry for typos ;)

On Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 14:47 > wrote:


Can you not host 1 updated container ? Then we pull from that ?


I have no storage for this :(
And no free time :(
Is it too hard to run one build command?



On 28/10/2021 09:57, Maxim Solodovnik mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 > Each Docker image is about 2Gb
 > too much for nightly build
 >
 > you can build the dockerized version yourself :)))
 > The instructions are here:
 >

https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker#instructions-for-developers



 >

>
 >
 >
 > On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 14:53, Daniel Baker
mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>
 > >> wrote:
 >
 >� � �Can you do that for a nightly build ?
 >
 >� � �On 28/10/2021 08:36, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
 > >� � �There is dockerized OM with KMS bundled :)))
 > >� � �(will try to add 6.2.0 this week)
 > >
 > >� � �should be super-easy to start :)))
 > >
 > >� � �On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 14:34, Daniel Baker
 > >� � �mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>
>>
 > >� � �wrote:
 > >
 > >� � � � �So can we make the process of using docker� easier ? On a
 > >� � � � �broader note I do wonder if containerization makes life
easier
 > >� � � � �for� us.
 > >
 > >� � � � �On 27/10/2021 08:25, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
 > >>� � � � �I do remember we were working with some folks from
ArchLinux
 > >>� � � � �on OM installation automation
 > >>� � � � �I have no experience with writing configs for `apt` :(
 > >>� � � � �(might be non-trivial due to KMS is dockerized )
 > >>
 > >>� � � � �On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 14:05, Daniel Baker
 > >>� � � � �mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>
 > >>� � � � �>> wrote:
 > >>
 > >>� � � � � � �That would be really convenient to use apt-get. Look
 > >>� � � � � � �forward to this :-)
 > >>
 > >>� � � � � � �Thanks,
 > >>
 > >>� � � � � � �Dan
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>� � � � � � �On 27/10/2021 00:48, seba.wag...@gmail.com

 > >>� � � � � � �> wrote:
 > >>� � � � � � �> That's awesome!
 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �> Do you think it would be possible to publish
 > >>� � � � � � �OpenMeetings directly to
 > >>� � � � � � �> the Debian repository (or others) ?
 > >>� � � � � � �> So you can do "apt-get install openmeetings" ? :)
 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �> That could also make the installation easier
(e.g. you
 > >>� � � � � � �can define
 > >>� � � � � � �> dependencies for the package)
 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �> You think that might be a good idea?
 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �> Thanks
 > >>� � � � � � �> Sebastian
 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �> Sebastian Wagner
 > >>� � � � � � �> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
 > >>� � � � � � �> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/

 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �> https://om-hosting.com 
> - Cloud
 > >>� � � � � � �& Server Hosting for HTML5
 > >>� � � � � � �> Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �>
 > >>� � � � � � �> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 22:05, Alvaro
 > >>� � � � � � �mailto:zurca...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
 > >>� � � � � � �>> Excuse me please to send three times the same
email,
 > >>� � � � � � �>> but Google every time put me differents
conditions :)
 > >>� � � � � � �>>
 > >>� � � � � � �>> Sorry!
 > >>� � � � � � �>>
 > >>� � � � � � �>>
 > >>� � � � � � �>> 
 > >>� � � � � � �>>
 > >>� � � � � � �>>
 > >>� � � � � � �>>
 > >>� � � � � � �>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:43:13 +0100
 > >>� � � � � � �>> Alvaro mailto:zurca...@gmail.com>
 > >>� � � � � � �>> wrote:
 > >>� � � � � � �>>
 > >>� � � � � � �>>> Hello,
 > >>� � 

Re: New installation tutorials OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on different OSes

[info]

Can you not host 1 updated container ? Then we pull from that ? 


On 28/10/2021 09:57, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

Each Docker image is about 2Gb
too much for nightly build

you can build the dockerized version yourself :)))
The instructions are here: 
https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker#instructions-for-developers 




On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 14:53, Daniel Baker > wrote:


Can you do that for a nightly build ?

On 28/10/2021 08:36, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> There is dockerized OM with KMS bundled :)))
> (will try to add 6.2.0 this week)
>
> should be super-easy to start :)))
>
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 14:34, Daniel Baker
> mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>>
> wrote:
>
> So can we make the process of using docker� easier ? On a
> broader note I do wonder if containerization makes life easier
> for� us.
>
> On 27/10/2021 08:25, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> I do remember we were working with some folks from ArchLinux
>> on OM installation automation
>> I have no experience with writing configs for `apt` :(
>> (might be non-trivial due to KMS is dockerized )
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 14:05, Daniel Baker
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> That would be really convenient to use apt-get. Look
>> forward to this :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On 27/10/2021 00:48, seba.wag...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> > That's awesome!
>> >
>> > Do you think it would be possible to publish
>> OpenMeetings directly to
>> > the Debian repository (or others) ?
>> > So you can do "apt-get install openmeetings" ? :)
>> >
>> > That could also make the installation easier (e.g. you
>> can define
>> > dependencies for the package)
>> >
>> > You think that might be a good idea?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Sebastian
>> >
>> > Sebastian Wagner
>> > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
>> > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> 
>> > https://om-hosting.com  - Cloud
>> & Server Hosting for HTML5
>> > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 22:05, Alvaro
>> mailto:zurca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> Excuse me please to send three times the same email,
>> >> but Google every time put me differents conditions :)
>> >>
>> >> Sorry!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:43:13 +0100
>> >> Alvaro > > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> Maxim, with the invaluable collaboration of Sebastian
>> Wagner on this
>> >>> occasion,
>> >>> have created the new OpenMeetings 6.2.0 release so
>> that we can surf and
>> >>> reach
>> >>> other people with words, images and writing.
>> >>> Thanks to both.
>> >>>
>> >>> The installation tutorials for this on differents
>> OSes can find them in:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+installing+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>> 

>> >>>
>> >>> ...called:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Arch Linux
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Centos 7
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Centos 8
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Debian 10
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Debian 11
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Fedora 34
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on openSUSE Leap 15.2
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on openSUSE Leap 15.3
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Ubuntu 18.04 lts
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation OpenMeetings 6.2.0 on Ubuntu 20.04 lts
>>

Re: HTTP Status 404 – Not Found

[info]

Hello Maxim,

My mistake - the spam - a couple of them -  was sent to the email 
address I use on this list.


Please Aleksandr take me off of your list - I'm not interested, and I 
don't read Russian.


Thanks,

Ed

Le 2021-02-19 01:56, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit :

Hello Ed,

I don't see any spam on the list
could you please share the link to mail-archives?

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 23:53,  wrote:


Hello,

This user "Aleksandr" is SPAMMING the maillist and my email address,
and
he should be removed. I do not want him to ever spam me agin.
Recently
his messages have been commercial, not just lame.

Ed


--

Best regards,
Maxim

Re: HTTP Status 404 – Not Found

[info]

Hello,

This user "Aleksandr" is SPAMMING the maillist and my email address, and 
he should be removed. I do not want him to ever spam me agin. Recently 
his messages have been commercial, not just lame.


Ed

errors in upgrade backup and import functionality ?

[info]

Hi,

I just updated to 5.1.0 from 5.0.3 and when I followed the upgrade guide 
and clicked on the system backup button, nothing seemed to happen and I 
couldn't find a backup that had been generated anywhere on the server! 
But I had a funny named file in my downloads directory a 
"notconfirmed+sting_of_numbers.crdownload" file. Is this the OM backup?


When I tried importing it on a test instance of OM 5.1.0 it threw an 
error stating "configs.xml missing"


What to do?

Ed

Re: best practice to autostart kms in docker container and tomcat3 for Om 5.1.0 ?

[info]

Hello,

Thanks - is that the best way?   I think a best practice is to add 
--restart unless-stopped  to your tutorial docker run command so it 
looks like:


docker run -d --restart unless-stopped --name kms -p : --mount 
type=bind,source=/opt/open510/webapps/openmeetings/data,target=/opt/open510/webapps/openmeetings/data 
kurento/kurento-media-server


This is on debian buster. Thus kms won't automatically restart if you 
stop it, but it will auto-restart if the server is rebooted or docker 
itself is restarted.


I have tested this and it works great!

Ed

Le 2021-02-01 20:34, Alvaro a écrit :

For docker:

sudo systemctl enable docker.service

...and for kms you can add it in the script we
made. Then the script will look so:

#!/bin/bash
docker start kms
/etc/init.d/tomcat3 start

...am thinking you are in Ubuntu 20.04 ???

..


El lun, 01-02-2021 a las 19:07 +, Alvaro escribió:

Hi Ed,

It i do to run OpenMeetings when turn on the machine
or reboot it is:

sudo nano /etc/init.d/boot

...paste the 2 following lines:

#!/bin/bash
/etc/init.d/tomcat3 start

...push Ctrl+X, will ask to save then press Y,
and Enter to exit nano editor.

Now give execution permission to this script:

sudo +x /etc/init.d/boot

...and now a symlink:

ln -s /etc/init.d/boot /etc/rc3.d/S98boot


Works for me.




El lun, 01-02-2021 a las 18:18 +0100, i...@bureau-de-poste.net
escribió:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone have a best practice for autostarting kms inside
> docker
> whenever there is a docker or server restart?
>
> Could you share it please?
>
> Also, for tomcat3 to restart automatically on reboot I had to add
> the
> following symlinks:
>
> ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc0.d/K01tomcat3
> ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc1.d/K01tomcat3
> ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc6.d/K01tomcat3
> ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc2.d/S01tomcat3
> ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc3.d/S01tomcat3
> ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc4.d/S01tomcat3
> ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc5.d/S01tomcat3
>
> Does anyone ahve abetter way to enable tomcat autorestart on
> server
> reboot?  If so, could you share it please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed

best practice to autostart kms in docker container and tomcat3 for Om 5.1.0 ?

[info]

Hello,

Does anyone have a best practice for autostarting kms inside docker 
whenever there is a docker or server restart?


Could you share it please?

Also, for tomcat3 to restart automatically on reboot I had to add the 
following symlinks:


ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc0.d/K01tomcat3
ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc1.d/K01tomcat3
ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc6.d/K01tomcat3
ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc2.d/S01tomcat3
ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc3.d/S01tomcat3
ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc4.d/S01tomcat3
ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat3 /etc/rc5.d/S01tomcat3

Does anyone ahve abetter way to enable tomcat autorestart on server 
reboot?  If so, could you share it please?


Thanks,

Ed

Re: How to erase chat history ?

[info]

Hello,

I will create an issue in JIRA. I should say, however, that I  
"dragged" the chat vertical column a little to the left in one room,  
and the 5th tab (the important one with the save and delete icons)  
appeared; and since that moment, the 5th tab appears in ALL rooms  
without having to drag the chat column to the left at all. It must be  
VERY close to perfect.


Another idea would be to move the important tab that contains the  
delete and save icons to the left in the order of the tabs, so that if  
this ever happens again, then only the least important tab would not  
be shown. (For me the least important tab is the tab that allows bold,  
underline and crossout and italics - or the emoticons). So, I request  
a re-ordering of the tabs above the chat text area.


Best,

Ed

Maxim Solodovnik  a écrit :


Now I see ...
can you please create JIRA?
meanwhile you can enlarge chat area width by dragging it's left side

On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 22:42,  wrote:


Hello,

On Chrome (Win 10), on your snapshot, I have the same error on Chrome:
Immediately above the text area in which you write your chat messages,
there are only 4 tabs, and I have already described them. The 5th tab,
which contains the all-important icons to save and to delete the chat
history does NOT appear at all on my 1920 x 1080 screen on chrome.

Screenshot in attachment.

Best regards,

Ed


Maxim Solodovnik  a écrit :

> You can always check the latest SNAPSHOT at
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
> I'm not sure what do you mean by 5 tabs
> I'm using the latest Chrome on Ubuntu, can you share a screenshot
> describing where should I look :)
>
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 19:11,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It is a spacing problem that only affects chrome latest for Windows
>> 10. The 5th tab shows on Opera, Edge and Firefox (I don't use Safari,
>> so I don't know).  Is anyone using Chrome latest that can state this
>> problem no longer exists in latest 5.1.0?
>>
>> My screen is full hd - 1920 x 1080 and there isn't room for Chrome to
>> display all 5 tabs next to each other in the chat column. IS there an
>> easy way to make the chat column 5 px wider? (it might be the width of
>> the text area for chat input that should be increased a few pixels- I
>> am not a css expert.)
>>
>> Should we be using build 129 at this point? Is that the best stable
>> 5.1.0 build?
>> Alvaro  a écrit :
>>
>> > ...only an user with administrator rights
>> > can see the chat delete icon and use it.
>> >
>> > Before i said first moderator, but think
>> > must be administrator.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > El dom, 01-11-2020 a las 14:36 +0300, Ali Alhaidary escribió:
>> >> latest snapshot 5.1.0
>> >>
>> >> On 11/1/20 2:34 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
>> >> > What version of OM are you using? 5.0.1 or a build of 5.1.0 ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Ed
>> >> > Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 11/1/20 2:24 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
>> >> > > > it is bellow chat area, above text area
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On 11/1/20 2:20 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
>> >> > > > > Hello,
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Thank you for your response. I don't have those tabs above
>> >> > > > > the
>> >> > > > > chat. I am using 5.0.1 - are you using the same version of
>> >> > > > > OM? I
>> >> > > > > have 4 tabs above the chat text entry area. A smilyface
>> >> > > > > (many
>> >> > > > > emoticons) on the left, then the letter A (text size), then
>> >> > > > > the
>> >> > > > > gear symbol (only has 4 sub-tabs - underline, bold, italics
>> >> > > > > and
>> >> > > > > sub-script), and on the right the link (url add) tab.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Best,
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Ed
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On 11/1/20 11:44 AM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > Hello,
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I can't find how to erase the chat history of a given
>> >> > > > > > > room. What
>> >> > > > > > > must be done, please?
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > thanks,
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Ed
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim





--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: How to erase chat history ?

[info]

It is a spacing problem that only affects chrome latest for Windows  
10. The 5th tab shows on Opera, Edge and Firefox (I don't use Safari,  
so I don't know).  Is anyone using Chrome latest that can state this  
problem no longer exists in latest 5.1.0?


My screen is full hd - 1920 x 1080 and there isn't room for Chrome to  
display all 5 tabs next to each other in the chat column. IS there an  
easy way to make the chat column 5 px wider? (it might be the width of  
the text area for chat input that should be increased a few pixels- I  
am not a css expert.)


Should we be using build 129 at this point? Is that the best stable  
5.1.0 build?

Alvaro  a écrit :


...only an user with administrator rights
can see the chat delete icon and use it.

Before i said first moderator, but think
must be administrator.



...



El dom, 01-11-2020 a las 14:36 +0300, Ali Alhaidary escribió:

latest snapshot 5.1.0

On 11/1/20 2:34 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
> What version of OM are you using? 5.0.1 or a build of 5.1.0 ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
> Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :
>
> > On 11/1/20 2:24 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
> > > it is bellow chat area, above text area
> > >
> > > On 11/1/20 2:20 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your response. I don't have those tabs above
> > > > the
> > > > chat. I am using 5.0.1 - are you using the same version of
> > > > OM? I
> > > > have 4 tabs above the chat text entry area. A smilyface
> > > > (many
> > > > emoticons) on the left, then the letter A (text size), then
> > > > the
> > > > gear symbol (only has 4 sub-tabs - underline, bold, italics
> > > > and
> > > > sub-script), and on the right the link (url add) tab.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/1/20 11:44 AM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't find how to erase the chat history of a given
> > > > > > room. What
> > > > > > must be done, please?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: How to erase chat history ?

[info]

Hello,

Thanks for your help,

I'm using 5.0.1 stable, and I new see that the missing tab IS present  
in Firefox, and in Edge - it is the 5th tab. This is a problem with  
Chrome browser! If anyone else has this problem I will JIRA.


Thanks for your help,

Ed

Alvaro  a écrit :


...only an user with administrator rights
can see the chat delete icon and use it.

Before i said first moderator, but think
must be administrator.



...



El dom, 01-11-2020 a las 14:36 +0300, Ali Alhaidary escribió:

latest snapshot 5.1.0

On 11/1/20 2:34 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
> What version of OM are you using? 5.0.1 or a build of 5.1.0 ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
> Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :
>
> > On 11/1/20 2:24 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
> > > it is bellow chat area, above text area
> > >
> > > On 11/1/20 2:20 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your response. I don't have those tabs above
> > > > the
> > > > chat. I am using 5.0.1 - are you using the same version of
> > > > OM? I
> > > > have 4 tabs above the chat text entry area. A smilyface
> > > > (many
> > > > emoticons) on the left, then the letter A (text size), then
> > > > the
> > > > gear symbol (only has 4 sub-tabs - underline, bold, italics
> > > > and
> > > > sub-script), and on the right the link (url add) tab.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/1/20 11:44 AM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't find how to erase the chat history of a given
> > > > > > room. What
> > > > > > must be done, please?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

Re: How to erase chat history ?

[info]

That gear symbol for my version (5.0.1 stable) says "font style" and  
only has font style buttons.


Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :


On 11/1/20 2:24 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:

it is bellow chat area, above text area

On 11/1/20 2:20 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:

Hello,

Thank you for your response. I don't have those tabs above the  
chat. I am using 5.0.1 - are you using the same version of OM? I  
have 4 tabs above the chat text entry area. A smilyface (many  
emoticons) on the left, then the letter A (text size), then the  
gear symbol (only has 4 sub-tabs - underline, bold, italics and  
sub-script), and on the right the link (url add) tab.


Best,

Ed

Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :


On 11/1/20 11:44 AM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:

Hello,

I can't find how to erase the chat history of a given room. What  
must be done, please?


thanks,

Ed

Re: How to erase chat history ?

[info]

What version of OM are you using? 5.0.1 or a build of 5.1.0 ?

Thanks,

Ed
Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :


On 11/1/20 2:24 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:

it is bellow chat area, above text area

On 11/1/20 2:20 PM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:

Hello,

Thank you for your response. I don't have those tabs above the  
chat. I am using 5.0.1 - are you using the same version of OM? I  
have 4 tabs above the chat text entry area. A smilyface (many  
emoticons) on the left, then the letter A (text size), then the  
gear symbol (only has 4 sub-tabs - underline, bold, italics and  
sub-script), and on the right the link (url add) tab.


Best,

Ed

Ali Alhaidary  a écrit :


On 11/1/20 11:44 AM, i...@bureau-de-poste.net wrote:

Hello,

I can't find how to erase the chat history of a given room. What  
must be done, please?


thanks,

Ed

How to erase chat history ?

[info]

Hello,

I can't find how to erase the chat history of a given room. What must  
be done, please?


thanks,

Ed

Action Icons for non-moderators are action icons not state icons

[info]

Hello,

I am suing the stable 5.0.1 and I notice that the superuser or the  
main user that is logged-in has the camera and microphone icons in  
green if they are enabled and in orange if they are disabled. Thus,  
these are icons that show their state.


When I look at the little icons for users in the same room as me, I  
see that they are not icons that show their state, but rather they are  
"action icons" - just the opposite of the "state icons" that we  
changed a few months ago.


Why don't we change this, too, so that all icons show their "state" ?  
Thus, foor the non-moderator users in a room, if their cameras are  
enabled the little icon will show green, and if it is disabled, it  
will show orange.


This will give consistency to the screen - all colored icons should be  
"state" not "to-do action" icons.


I really believe we need consistency here - everywhere, and I truly  
believe that "state" is MUCH better than "action" - as most of the  
users thought a few months ago.


Can this be done?

Best,

Ed

Re: Call for Logo

[info]

 Hello,

If we're voting, I like:

1, then 9, for the full logo, and 1 only for the square logo. I don't  
like anything else at all.


Best regards,

ed

Quoting Thomas Scholzen :


https://openmeetings.apache.org/CallForLogo.html

  Dear All,

  I would like to get the discussion about the logos going a bit. In  
general, I think the logos should be kept as simple as possible  
while at the same time having a high recognition factor.


  Numbers 1, 5, 6, 8, 9 of the big and most of the square logos I  
like in this respect. Also, matching pairs of large and square logos  
would be good.


  Like some others, in my sketch I tried  to include the colors of  
the Apache feather. This is quite good for corporate identity,  
although a blue/yellow version might look good, too. I tried to show  
the “openness” of OpenMeetings through the transparency of the  
circles and the “meeting” through the overlapping circles.


  Apart from my own suggestion, I really like the current logo by  
Denis Kandrov. However, for the square version, one might find  
something with more similarity to the big version.


   

  What do you think?

   

  Many greetings,
Thomas

  @Maxim Thanks for uploading my corrected logo

TCP socket error: Connection reset by peer 195.54.161.237:16836 ( ? Saint Petersburg IP ?)

[info]

 Hello, We are getting a tcp connection error in coturn that is from  
a Saint Petersburg IP address. What is this?:


root@server1:~# service coturn status
 ● coturn.service - coTURN STUN/TURN Server
    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/coturn.service; enabled;  
vendor preset: enabled)
    Active: active (running) since Sat 2020-09-26 16:21:41 CEST; 1  
weeks 6 days ago

      Docs: man:coturn(1)
            man:turnadmin(1)
            man:turnserver(1)
   Process: 2052 ExecStart=/usr/bin/turnserver --daemon -c  
/etc/turnserver.conf --pidfile /run/turnserver/turnserver.pid  
(code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

   Process: 2054 ExecStartPost=/bin/sleep 2 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
  Main PID: 2053 (turnserver)
     Tasks: 15 (limit: 4915)
    Memory: 20.9M
    CGroup: /system.slice/coturn.service
            └─2053 /usr/bin/turnserver --daemon -c  
/etc/turnserver.conf --pidfile /run/turnserver/turnserver.pid

  
 Oct 09 02:04:58 server1 turnserver[2053]: 1071799: session  
007469: TCP socket error: Connection reset by peer  
195.54.161.237:16836
 Warning: Journal has been rotated since unit was started. Log output  
is incomplete or unavailable.


Best,
Ed

A question about running Tomcat alongside of Apache or NginX

[info]

 Hello All,

I have a general question about installing and running OM on an  
existing server serving web pages with Apache or NginX server. Does  
this type of congiruataion cause any known problems for OM? ( For  
example having apache or NginX running - could that possible cause a  
part of OM to go down, when it wouldn't have if OM had been installed  
on a stand alone server. I don't mean because of not enough resources  
available.)?


We have some existing web servers running apache 2.4 or NginX latest  
which have a lot of free resources, and I have installed OM on them  
and it appears to run fine alongside the web sites we server with  
Apache or NginX. Once I had coturn stop unexpectedly, but couldn't  
determine why.  


In any case, can anyone point out any obvious problems or potential  
pitfalls to this approach? It has advantages (such as the automatic  
creation and renewal of Let's Encrypt certificates (with open source  
hosting management panels), hosting a moodle site - or other website  
to sell managed OM servies, for example - alongside the OM site, cost,  
resource and time savings,  etc.


Thanks for any heads up on this approach.

Best,

Ed

Recent ApacheCon

[info]

 Hello All,

Was OpenMeetings used at all for any part of the recent ApacehCon?  I  
mean to host virtual lectures, meetings, discussions, etc.


Best,

Ed

Re: There is no Asterisk configured

[info]

 Hello Maxim,

Would FreeSWITCH be easier to integrade than asterixk? Would it do the  
same thing?


Best,

 ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


 

   On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 22:32, Ali Alhaidary  
 wrote:


I know that product very well, we used to implement it in call  
centers that we build. Is it implemented in 5.1.0 ?


not yet
not sure if i can integrate KMS and Asterisk 


 
  On 9/29/20 6:27 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:


https://www.asterisk.org/

   On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 22:24, Ali Alhaidary  
 wrote:



Thanks, are you talking about PBX Asterisk ?
  On 9/29/20 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

Since you are asking I guess you haven't configured Asterisk  
integration :)And it is not working in  
5.0.x

hopefully will be able to implement it ...

   On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 21:25, Ali  
Alhaidary  wrote:



Hi,

I get this warning in openmeetings.log, should I ignore it? Am I not
configuring something or what?

WARN 09-29 14:18:05.176 o.a.o.d.d.r.SipDao:77 [nio-5443-exec-2] - There
is no Asterisk configured
 


    
--
Best regards,
Maxim


    
--
Best regards,
Maxim


    
--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [DISCUSSION] Additional room menu

[info]

 Hello,

If I understand the request correctly, you want a name for the 5th top  
level menu item once a user has chosen a room and is inside that room.  
If my understanding is correct, I would suggest:


"Settings"

or "Room Settings"

"Display" or "Room Display" might also work.

Best,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All,

We have some requests like this one:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2397

to add more actions to the room
I believe the Room->Actions menu is huge enough
Can someone suggest the name for another top level menu in the room?

--
Best regards,Maxim

General question about docker

[info]

 Hello,

I followed the install on debian buster instructions. 
I would like to know how to make the kms service start automatically  
within docker upon a server restart. 
For all other services, adding the appropriate entry to the /etc/rcx  
files does the trick, but not for a service that only docker can  
start. I believe that we need to add a line to the command to start  
docker (thus we need to modilfy the installation instructions). Docker  
restarts autmatically upon a server restart, as it should, but it  
doesn't automatically restart kms. Can I jsut modify a simple file  
within docker (a config file, for example?)?


Furthermore, I was surprised that you changed the installation  
instructions from  the release candidate 3 and rc4 (which had kms as a  
simple install from different apt repos)? Why add the complexity of  
docker at all ?


However if you really want to keep docker as the way to serve kms, why  
not put the entire install into a docker container, so that it can  
scale endlessly by spinning up new containers on other servers, etc?  
This would be my recommendation, without knowing too much about docker.


I'd love to be involved in this discussion, even though I am only  
testing and using OpenMeetings and not developping it.


Ed

Installation alongside apache2 webserver and postfix/dovecot mail server ?

[info]

 Hello,

Do I run any risk following the debian buster instructions with coturn  
on an existing server running apache2.4, mariadb 10.3, php 7.4-fpm,  
postfix and dovecot, etc. ?  


In other words, could enabling the coturn server affect the smtp tls  
with postfix and the apache2 https port 443?


Will the coturn server ONLY apply to the OpenMeetings, etc?

Thanks, I can't afford another dedicated server right now, and I don't  
want to mess up an existing server (which has a lot of free resources,  
thus I thought I could add openmeetings).


Thanks for any advice or heads-up.
 

 Ed

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[info]

 Hi,

I vote for immediate release of OM 5.0.0 stable. The entire world  
needs this now, and we cannot wait for a few special cases to be  
resolved. Those special casis, squid proxies, how to's  behind various  
firewalls and different server setups - that's all post-release support.


Please release stable 5.0.0 now.

thanks,

ed

Quoting seba.wag...@gmail.com:

There is a vote open right now, Apache Foundation recommends to have  
the vote open for some time for community members to respond.   

   There is some docs on how voting and agreeing works in Apache projects at:
   https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
    
   Cheers
   Seb

Sebastian Wagner
  Director Arrakeen Solutions
  http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/

 [1][2]

 On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 06:51, ratatouille  
 wrote:



Hi!

When will it be released?

  Andreas

Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.08.20 um 13:34:20 Uhr:


Hello All,

I'm ready to start release process
Could someone check
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500
Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> It seems well established that the Safari issue is a  
webkit/Apple bug. Not

> OpenMeetings code issue.
>
> So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything. There is
> nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.
>
> So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug ticket or
> something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
>  

>  


>
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:
> 
>> Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
>>
>> Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
>>
>>
>> ..
>>
>>
>>
>> El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> what is the current status?
>> shall I start the release process?
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Juan,
>>
>> did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious
>>
>> Have fun,
>>
>> kaffeesurrogat
>>
>> On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote: 
>> >
>> > Hi all.
>> >
>> > I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
>> > could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
>> > prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
>> > The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
>> > Dick' and the audio file is read in English.
>> >
>> > I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
>> > interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
>> > useful the test will be.
>> >
>> > I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
>> > room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
>> > The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).
>> >
>> > What do you think about?
>> > We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
>> > half, with users who can attend at that time.
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: 
>> >> How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
>> >>
>> >> I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
>> >> was in 4.x.
>> >>
>> >> But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
>> >> if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
>> >>
>> >> Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
>> >> Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
>> >> production ?
>> >>
>> >> Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
>> >> low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Seb
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> >> < 
>>  
https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url 

>> >< 
>>  
https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url 

>> > 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     Please can someone explain?
>> >>     I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
>> >>     what does that mean to OM functionality?
>> >>     Best K.
>> >>
>> >>     Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
>> >>     > >>     >:
>> >>
>> >>         Hello Maxim,
>> >>
>> >>         at this moment two things are important for me:
>> >>         - calling a room 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[info]

_Then  __use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"_



Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello Ed,

   On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 18:13,  wrote:


_Hello,

I know that you don't mean this type of thing, but just for what  
it's worth - a few English improvements (I'm a former English  
teacher!):_


_README contains the most valuable changes from  
CHANGELOG https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#release-notes---openmeetings---version-500_
_So the first thing to check is: what can be added to let users  
know they should update to this version :)_

 
_improvements in English are much appreciated :)_
_ _

_- Flash plugin (is no more required) in the browser --> "is no  
longer required ..."

- Libraries are updated (with latest versions) --> "to latest versions"
- Front camera (is being used by default) --> "is used by default"_


_Will apply these ASAP, Thanks!_
_ _


_and finally, 

- "Camera resolution is taken over immediately"  (I don't know what  
this means!)._


_This actually means if you will start setup dialog in the room  
and change camera or resolution these changes will be applied as  
soon as you will press the Save button_

_(previously browser restart was required ...)

Then  __use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"_



_ _

_Do you mean "Camera resolution is changed immediately" or "is set  
immediately" ? If you mean that when a logged-in user changes the  
camera resolution that the new resolution takes effect immediately,  
use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"


Thanks for the great work; I will be installing 5.0.0 as soon as  
its ready to test on buster as well as on ubuntu low latency  
kernel, which might help a few things.


Best regards,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :_


_Hello All, _   _ _
_I'm ready to start release process_
_Could someone  
check https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500_

_Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?_

   _On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22,  
seba.wag...@gmail.com  wrote:_


_It seems well established that the Safari issue is a  
webkit/Apple bug. Not OpenMeetings code issue. _   
 _ _
  _So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix  
anything. There is nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code._

  _ _
  _So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the  
webkit bug ticket or something, but we could release OpenMeetings  
5.0.0_

  _ _
  _Thanks_
  _Seb_

  
_Sebastian Wagner_

   _Director Arrakeen Solutions_
   _http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/_

  _[1][2]_

   _On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  
 wrote:_



_Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255._
_ _
_Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great._
_ _
_ _
_.._
_ _
_ _
_ _
_El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim  
Solodovnik escribió:_



_Hello All, _   _ _
  _what is the current status?_
  _shall I start the release process?_

   _On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10,  
kaffeesurrogat  wrote:_



_Hi Juan,

did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious

Have fun,

kaffeesurrogat

On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:


Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
Dick' and the audio file is read in English.

I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
useful the test will be.

I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).

What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
half, with users who can attend at that time.

Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
was in 4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
low 

Re: [DISCUSSION] next release

[info]

 Hello,

I know that you don't mean this type of thing, but just for what it's  
worth - a few English improvements (I'm a former English teacher!):
- Flash plugin (is no more required) in the browser --> "is no longer  
required ..."

- Libraries are updated (with latest versions) --> "to latest versions"
- Front camera (is being used by default) --> "is used by default"

and finally, 

- "Camera resolution is taken over immediately"  (I don't know what  
this means!).
Do you mean "Camera resolution is changed immediately" or "is set  
immediately" ? If you mean that when a logged-in user changes the  
camera resolution that the new resolution takes effect immediately,  
use --> "Camera resolution changes take effect immediately"


Thanks for the great work; I will be installing 5.0.0 as soon as its  
ready to test on buster as well as on ubuntu low latency kernel, which  
might help a few things.


Best regards,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All,   
   I'm ready to start release process
   Could someone  
check https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/README.md#500

   Shall some other fixed be mentioned in README/main page ?

 On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com  
 wrote:


It seems well established that the Safari issue is a webkit/Apple  
bug. Not OpenMeetings code issue.   
 So I don't see why waiting for our release would fix anything.  
There is nothing wrong with the OpenMeetings code.

  
 So I would think, maybe adding a note/link to the webkit bug  
ticket or something, but we could release OpenMeetings 5.0.0

  
 Thanks
 Seb

Sebastian Wagner
  Director Arrakeen Solutions
  http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/

 [1][2]

 On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 06:09, Alvaro  wrote:


Right now i've finished to test OM 5.0.0 - 3255.
    
   Please, ahead with the new release. It is really great.
    
    
   ..
    
    
    
   El sáb, 15-08-2020 a las 09:35 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:


Hello All,   
 what is the current status?
 shall I start the release process?

 On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 20:10, kaffeesurrogat  
 wrote:



Hi Juan,

did this happen ?  What were the results ? Just curious

Have fun,

kaffeesurrogat

On 14/05/2020 20:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona wrote:


Hi all.

I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation that we
could use to do those tests. But I have to count on you. I have
prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound file (an .ogg file).
The pdf document is the third chapter of Hermann Melville's book 'Moby
Dick' and the audio file is read in English.

I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that they are
interested in attending this presentation. The more we are, the more
useful the test will be.

I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open the
room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00 and 19:00.
The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am at GMT + 2 (CET).

What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an hour and a
half, with users who can attend at that time.

Regards.

El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:

How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?

I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating what
was in 4.x.

But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production ready
if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.

Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready for
production ?

Are there any users on this list that can help us and that can run a
low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation conference room ?

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/



On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea mailto:kamha...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

     Please can someone explain?
     I understand that SIP has something to do with IP telephones, but
     what does that mean to OM functionality?
     Best K.

     Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
     mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>:

         Hello Maxim,

         at this moment two things are important for me:
         - calling a room directly with room-name
         - SIP-support

         Best regards,

         René


         Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


         On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
         mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:

             Maxim,

              

             cool, you are coming forward…

              

              

         

Request for help testing / benchmarking low-latency kernel for 5.0.0

[info]

 Hello,

We are testing the linux low latency kernel (which is more forgiving  
than the real-time kernel. It also permits a broader set of uses more  
suitable for a normal vps or dedicated server which is not 100%  
dedicated to KMS). We are testing this on a vps serving web paegs with  
tomcat, as well as on a small dedicated serving web pages with apache  
2.4 (without a TURN server and with UFW and iptables as firewall -  
which seems to work fine for us).


The idea is that the low latency kernel will be more responsive. It is  
often used in audio / video recording applications where latency can  
be a real problem, so it should improve responsiveness on KMS. We  
can't really benchmark this easily - so if anyone can, and wants to,  
I'd like to have their results as to whether or not the low latency  
kernel improves connectiveness and responsiveness as the end user see  
them.


Here are instructions for switching to the low latency kernel, should  
anyone wish to test it. As I said, we have moved to it, and it hasn't  
created any problems, and appears to be as fast or faster. Please  
don't try this on a production server (even though we did and it's  
OK). We can't guarantee that this will work for you, but these are  
standard working instructions for upgrading or changing kernels. 


If you wish to try the low latency kernel:  (We assume you are using  
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS)


* update your sources
# apt update

* show dependencies of upgrading linux-headers
# apt-cache show linux-lowlatency-hwe-18.04 | grep Depends

* install the low-latency headers
# apt install linux-headers-lowlatency-hwe-18.04

* choose yes to also install the other headers, low-latency headers  
and low-latency hwe

# y

* now install the low latency image
# apt install linux-image-lowlatency-hwe-18.04

* choose yes to also install the low-latency modules and image
# y

* reboot  your system once your system load will safely allow it -  
check using top or htop

# reboot

* after you reboot, check that everything is working properly, and iff  
(if and only if) you wish to keep the low-latency kernel, clear out  
old kernel etc


* (once you've fully tested the low latency system and have decided to  
keep it)

# apt autoremove  

If you test this, please let me know if you are able to do real  
benchmarks on the before and after under load conditions.


Regards,

 Ed

 

Re: [DISCUSSION] Plans for the next release

[info]

 Wonderful! I think we are ready. If there is a problem with  
recording - it looks to be a firewall issue - that is something  
different than the release. We already have all the features that are  
absolutely necessary and we really need a stable release. I suggest  
that any additional features, and cosmetic (appearance) isses be moved  
to a 5.1 future release.


Best regards,

 Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All,

I would like to discuss the plans for next release
Can it be long waited "5.0.0 without M"?
What features are absolutely necessary?

p.s. be realistic please :)))

--
Best regards,Maxim

Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release - Character String Translations - EN, PT, FR, ES, IT

[info]

 Hello,

just change "=2E" to a period "."

I speak some German.

Best,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


=2E looks weird :(

 On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 17:28 Marcus Wellnitz  
 wrote:


German: Mikrofon ist eingeschaltet=2E Klicken zum ausschalten=2E  
Kamera ist eingeschaltet=2E Klicken zum ausschalten=2E Mikrofon ist  
ausgeschaltet=2E Klicken zum einschalten=2E Kamera ist  
ausgeschaltet=2E Klicken zum einsschalten=2E  Am 18.04.20 um  
10:36 schrieb i...@bureau-de-poste.net:


Hello,  Here are the new English, Portugese and French (not a  
native Portguese or French speaker, so OK to review this - but  
should be good):


EN

The microphone is on. Click to turn off.
  The camera is on. Click to turn off.
   
  The microphone is off. Click to turn on.
   
  The camera is turned off. Click to turn on.

FR

   Le microphone est activé. Cliquez pour désactiver.
    
   La caméra est allumée. Cliquez pour désactiver.
    
   Le microphone est éteint. Cliquez pour activer.
    
   La caméra est éteint. Cliquez pour allumer.

PT


O microfone está ligado. Clique para desligar.
 
A câmera está ligada. Clique para desligar.
 
O microfone está desligado. Clique para ativar.
 
A câmera está desligada. Clique para ativar.

Here's an attempt at Spanish and Italian - not my best languages  
so please review:


ES
---
 El micrófono está encendido. Haga clic para apagar.
  
 La camara esta encendida. Haga clic para apagar.
  
 El micrófono está apagado. Haga clic para encender.
  
 La cámara está apagada. Haga clic para encender.

IT
---

  Il microfono è acceso. Fare clic per disattivare.
   
  La fotocamera è accesa. Fare clic per disattivare.
   
  Il microfono è spento. Fare clic per accendere.
   
  La fotocamera è spenta. Fare clic per accendere.

Best,
 

Ed

    


Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello Andres, 
Thanks for asking :)
The easiest way is to use Admin->Labels then export  
language XML and attach it JIRA
If you know what you are doing you can edit on  
github https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/tree/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app

 
I plan to create project here https://poeditor.com/[1] to  
improve translations

 
 

   On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 01:51, ratatouille  
 wrote:


Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.04.20 um  
11:02:10 Uhr:



> 1)  In the left column user column when I mouse-over the nice green
> microphone icon and the nice green video camera icon, the  
text states "Turn

> off microphone" and "Turn off camera".  Since we decided to have these
> icons represent "states" rather than "to-do actions", I  
recommend that the

> text be changed to:
>
> "Microphone is on. Click to turn off." and "Camera is on.  
Click to turn

> off."
> 

I personally very very hard to avoid changing text labels
Every change need to be done for all 32 languages
And then hope someone can translate these labels
Will do it :(

p.s. thanks for English text
p.p.s @All if if speak any language and can translate couple of  
OM labels:

please contribute :)))


What's the way to go to translate the labels?

  Andreas


> The same should be done for the mouse-over text when these icons are
> orange (that is in the "off" state): the text should read:  
"Microphone is

> off. Click to turn on" and "Camera is off. Click to turn on".


    
--
Best regards,
Maxim



 


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Links:
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Re: [DISCUSS] Why OpenMeetings needs a Style Guide

[info]

 Hello,

Let's NOT let this style guide idea block the forthcoming 5.0.0  
release - which we have been waiting for for so long, please. If  
people want to have a style guide - let's do it for the 5.0.1 or 5.1  
release, please. This will take too long to do before the 5.0.0 release.


best,

 Ed

Quoting seba.wag...@gmail.com:


Hi,   
   I would like to establish a Style Guide for OpenMeetings.
    
   WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE A STYLE GUIDE
   A Style guide helps to make consistent design decisions. A  
reference to agree on before doing try-and-error discussions that  
can be costly and frustrating. In the end it may not really matter  
if the colour of the alert modal is red or orange. And it may not  
matter if the OK and Cancel button is left and right. Or the opposite.


But what matters is that once you decide for one of those patterns  
you do it consistently! Not come up with alternating patterns or  
have various different versions of a UI/UX of similar functionality.


Further material and examples on what a typical Style Guide (and  
StoryBooks) would contain and solve:



  *  https://www.toptal.com/designers/ui/ui-styleguide-better-ux
  *  http://styleguides.io/examples.html
SO I MADE A START HERE:
 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/OpenMeetings+UI+and+UX+Style+Guide

 
AND I STARTED WITH 2 TOPICS:


  *   HIDING VS DISABLING OF  
ELEMENTS: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/OpenMeetings+UI+and+UX+Style+Guide#OpenMeetingsUIandUXStyleGuide-HidingvsDisablingelements
  *   PRIMARY VS SECONDARY CALL TO ACTIONS  
BUTTONS: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/OpenMeetings+UI+and+UX+Style+Guide#OpenMeetingsUIandUXStyleGuide-PrimaryvsSecondarycalltoactionsbuttons 


NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT
If you could please add some feedback on those topics.
And also if you could help adding more topics where you feel  
like there is some inconsistency that would be worth agreeing on.

 
I appreciate this could be a long process and seems tedious to  
discuss this in such detail. But it will be much faster to discuss  
this in theory and agree (or disagree) on a style guide than  
refactor things later.
As well as it will help to discover inconsistencies that make  
the application hard to use.

 
Thanks,
Seb
--
 Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
seba.wag...@gmail.com

Re: change password encoding MD5

[info]

 Hello,

About all this work you are doing on the manual, I hope you are making  
a manual for  the current M4 and not M3 - as some of the symbols have  
changed, etc.


Best regards,

Ed

Quoting "K. Kamhamea" :

You are right we should not invest to much time and efforts here. It  
is rather a negligibility. I just want to keep the manual as  
detailed as possible. But there are many other more pressing things  
to solve. I will create a new thread for that.

   K.

 Am Sa., 18. Apr. 2020 um 03:31 Uhr schrieb Maxim Solodovnik  
:


I can create example project for this (please ping me if i will be  
too silent)   

 According to MD5 as password hash function: this is bad idea
  
https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/52461/how-weak-is-md5-as-a-password-hashing-function


 On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 02:42, K. Kamhamea  
 wrote:


OMG. I'm not experienced with Java. We are doing python mostly and  
Javascript and rarely some C++ but never Java.

 
I tried to compile your MD5implementation file
 
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/5.0.0-M3/openmeetings-util/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/util/crypt/MD5Implementation.java
but it failed because of missing dependencies. It probably  
requires the whole source of the project being downloaded and  
properly installed.
So for the moment I decided I wouldn't spend my time to  
test all this I'm just going to copy your detailed instruction  
into the Manual.

 
The reason why I was so interested in this topic is  
because of compatibility problems. I haven't found yet a python  
encryption library that is compatible. By contrast, MD5 is a  
standard that is widely used.

 
Thank you again so much for your help
K.
 
 

 Am Fr., 17. Apr. 2020 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Maxim  
Solodovnik :



 

   On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 18:54, K. Kamhamea  
 wrote:



I was just about testing other encryption methods as described
https://openmeetings.apache.org/CustomCryptMechanism.html


   
  I doubt anyone ever try this :)
   


 
Here I run into the following undocumented problems
1. Where to copy the MD5Implementation.java[1] file  
into my file system


   
  This is basic JAVA question :)
  Java programs need to be compiled
  i.e. After you have created class (which MUST implement  
interface) you need to 

  1) compile this class
  2) Pack into JAR file
  3) Put jar to webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/lib
   

2. How to set the CLASSPATH so that it can be found anywhere in  
my filesystem


   
  jars from webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/lib are being  
loaded automatically

   

3. What is actually the text string to be added into the  
configuration variable " crypt.class.name[2] "


   
  In JAVA classes are usually being created in packages  
(to resolve possible name clashes)

  so You need to write something like:
   
  package com.googlemail.kamhamea;
   
  public class MySecureCryptProvider implements ICrypt {
     your secure algorithm here ..
  }
   
  In config value you should write:  
"com.googlemail.kamhamea.MySecureCryptProvider"

   
   


 
Alternatively I tried this class
 
http://openmeetings.apache.org/openmeetings-util/apidocs/org/apache/openmeetings/util/crypt/MD5.html

 
But changing the configuration variable to "  
org.apache.openmeetings.util.crypt.MD5 " creates but an error.


   
   
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/5.0.0-M3/openmeetings-util/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/util/crypt/MD5.java

  Can't be used due to it doesn't implements ICrypt
   
   


 
Best K.


  
--
  Best regards,
Maxim


 
--
   Best regards,
Maxim




Links:
--
[1]  
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/256e5cd11e5af8f422688dfc1d01ac66b370d7a0/openmeetings-util/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/util/crypt/MD5Implementation.java

[2] http://crypt.class.name

Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release - Character String Translations - EN, PT, FR, ES, IT

[info]

 Hello,  Here are the new English, Portugese and French (not a native  
Portguese or French speaker, so OK to review this - but should be good):


EN

The microphone is on. Click to turn off.
 The camera is on. Click to turn off.
  
 The microphone is off. Click to turn on.
  
 The camera is turned off. Click to turn on.

FR

  Le microphone est activé. Cliquez pour désactiver.
   
  La caméra est allumée. Cliquez pour désactiver.
   
  Le microphone est éteint. Cliquez pour activer.
   
  La caméra est éteint. Cliquez pour allumer.

PT


   O microfone está ligado. Clique para desligar.
    
   A câmera está ligada. Clique para desligar.
    
   O microfone está desligado. Clique para ativar.
    
   A câmera está desligada. Clique para ativar.

Here's an attempt at Spanish and Italian - not my best languages so  
please review:


ES
---
El micrófono está encendido. Haga clic para apagar.
 
La camara esta encendida. Haga clic para apagar.
 
El micrófono está apagado. Haga clic para encender.
 
La cámara está apagada. Haga clic para encender.

IT
---

 Il microfono è acceso. Fare clic per disattivare.
  
 La fotocamera è accesa. Fare clic per disattivare.
  
 Il microfono è spento. Fare clic per accendere.
  
 La fotocamera è spenta. Fare clic per accendere.

Best,
 

   Ed

   


Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello Andres,   
   Thanks for asking :)
   The easiest way is to use Admin->Labels then export language XML  
and attach it JIRA
   If you know what you are doing you can edit on  
github https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/tree/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app

    
   I plan to create project here https://poeditor.com/[1] to improve  
translations

    
    

 On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 01:51, ratatouille  
 wrote:



Maxim Solodovnik  schrieb am 17.04.20 um 11:02:10 Uhr:


> 1)  In the left column user column when I mouse-over the nice green
> microphone icon and the nice green video camera icon, the text  
states "Turn

> off microphone" and "Turn off camera".  Since we decided to have these
> icons represent "states" rather than "to-do actions", I  
recommend that the

> text be changed to:
>
> "Microphone is on. Click to turn off." and "Camera is on. Click to turn
> off."
> 

I personally very very hard to avoid changing text labels
Every change need to be done for all 32 languages
And then hope someone can translate these labels
Will do it :(

p.s. thanks for English text
p.p.s @All if if speak any language and can translate couple of OM labels:
please contribute :)))


What's the way to go to translate the labels?

  Andreas


> The same should be done for the mouse-over text when these icons are
> orange (that is in the "off" state): the text should read: "Microphone is
> off. Click to turn on" and "Camera is off. Click to turn on".


   
--
 Best regards,
Maxim




Links:
--
[1] https://poeditor.com/projects/

Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release

[info]

 Hello Maxim and others,

This is a very serious suggestion. I am seeing the following on the  
public video and whiteboard room on latest Chrome on Windows 10:


https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/#room/4

My suggestions:

1)  In the left column user column when I mouse-over the nice green  
microphone icon and the nice green video camera icon, the text states  
"Turn off microphone" and "Turn off camera".  Since we decided to have  
these icons represent "states" rather than "to-do actions", I  
recommend that the text be changed to:


"Microphone is on. Click to turn off." and "Camera is on. Click to turn off."

The same should be done for the mouse-over text when these icons are  
orange (that is in the "off" state): the text should read: "Microphone  
is off. Click to turn on" and "Camera is off. Click to turn on".


Can we vote on this if you are unsure if this change is needed, please?

Best regards,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Demo-next is updated with latest build :)

 On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 15:24, Rohrbach, Gerald  
 wrote:



Maxim,

  ___ ___

  I will test the actual snapshot today, when the build is  
finished in 40 minutes.


  ___ ___

  Gerald

  ___ ___

  _ _

  __VON: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
GESENDET: Donnerstag, 16. April 2020 10:06
AN: Openmeetings user-list 
BETREFF: Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release__

  _ _

   __Hello All,__

_ _


__I plan to start VOTE on M4  
tomorrow,__



Please stop me if you will see any  
blockers :)


  __ __

___On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 20:00, Peter  
Dähn  wrote:___



_Hi Maxim,

no blockers found yet. Yesterday I tested clustering in my
test-environment. Seemed to work so far.

Greetings Peter

Am 14.04.20 um 08:33 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello All,

I would like to start a VOTE for new release ASAP
Are there any blockers?

_


   

   _ _

  __-- __

 Best regards,
Maxim


   
___-- ___
 ___Best regards,
Maxim___

Invitation to: Test of Room 4 (public video and whiteboard room) tomorrow, Thursday APril 16 at 19:00 UTC (London time)

[info]

Hello All,

I have an interesting idea, I think. The test server  (5.0.0 M4)  
at https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/signin seems to me to  
be very fast. Why don't many of us testers agree to meet  
tomorrow, Thursday, April 16 in a specific room - I suggest the  
Public Video and Whiteboard Room (room no. 4), and if we have 5  
or more people, we can see for ourselves how fast it is, and  
whether or not video conference participants need to exit and  
re-login to actively participate in a conference. I had a problem  
with 5.0.0 M3 with only 2 users, and I had to either refresh one  
user every once in a while, or - what worked better - re-login at  
least once. 


There are already two of us who will be there - can anyone else  
meet virtually in room number 4 to test it? tomorrow, Thursday at  
19:00 UTC (London, England time).


Best regards,

Ed


  

Re: Feedback: Today conference

[info]

 Hello,

I only want to meet in a test room if there are a minimum of 4  
simultaneous users, so I won't be available today. Why don't we try to  
do this on Thursday, at 19:00 UTC (London) time. That will give others  
a chance to plan this. If others have a better time, please say so .


Regards,

 Ed

Quoting "R. Scholz" :


Hello,

I use a "solid" version - when CEO's will make a meeting I am too  
anxious to change only parts.


OM
Version 5.0.0-M4-SNAPSHOT
Revision 47fe95a
Builddate 2020-04-04T17:02:12Z

Kurento is version 6.10.

€Ed: A very nice idea. I try to be at home today in the evening - I  
hope I can participate at 19h UTC.


Best regards,

René

  Am 14.04.2020 um 14:12 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


@Rene, 
what version of Om are you using?
is it "solid" build or some build with updated "parts"?
what version of KMS are you using?
 
@Ed,
demo-next server has been started for this :)
I'm not sure if I can participate, too much work right now :(

   On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 18:19,  wrote:


Hello All,

I have an interesting idea, I think. The test server  
at https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/signin seems to me to be  
very fast. Why don't many of us testers agree to meet at a  
specific time in a specific room - I suggest the Public Video and  
Whiteboard Room (room no. 4), and if we have 5 or more people, we  
can see for ourselves how fast it is, and whether or not video  
conference participants need to exit and re-login to actively  
participate in a conference. I had that problem with 5.0.0 M3 with  
only 2 users, and I had to either refresh one user every once in a  
while, or - what worked better - re-login at least once. 


I am available to test this at 19h UTC or Grenwich Mean Time  
(London Time) most days - for example today, Tuesday April 14, or  
tomorrow, Wednesday April 15th.


Can anyone agree on a date and time and meet virtually in room  
number 4 to test it?


Best regards,

Ed

Quoting "R. Scholz" :


Hello,

today we had a video-conference with 7 people. All had a small  
video-size with 120x90 and microphone switch on (default, 22050  
rate, 32k bitrate).


While the 1,5h conference every participant must from time to  
time make a new login. At first the video goes slwoly (end stand  
still), the voice
is clanking, than they must login new. After that all is OK. Good  
video, good sound.


I use a 100MBit synchronous Fiberchannel for our OM-server.

It was a conference between the CEO's from me and another "global player".
It bugs me that the CEO's from the other side said that "Zoom  
runs better". (They hat tested Zoom the last weeks.)




Is there a possibility to make our OM "more tolerant"?

Best regards,
René



 


    
--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: Feedback: Today conference

[info]

 Hello All,

I have an interesting idea, I think. The test server  
at https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/signin seems to me to be  
very fast. Why don't many of us testers agree to meet at a specific  
time in a specific room - I suggest the Public Video and Whiteboard  
Room (room no. 4), and if we have 5 or more people, we can see for  
ourselves how fast it is, and whether or not video conference  
participants need to exit and re-login to actively participate in a  
conference. I had that problem with 5.0.0 M3 with only 2 users, and I  
had to either refresh one user every once in a while, or - what worked  
better - re-login at least once. 


I am available to test this at 19h UTC or Grenwich Mean Time (London  
Time) most days - for example today, Tuesday April 14, or tomorrow,  
Wednesday April 15th.


Can anyone agree on a date and time and meet virtually in room number  
4 to test it?


Best regards,

Ed

Quoting "R. Scholz" :


Hello,

today we had a video-conference with 7 people. All had a small  
video-size with 120x90 and microphone switch on (default, 22050  
rate, 32k bitrate).


While the 1,5h conference every participant must from time to time  
make a new login. At first the video goes slwoly (end stand still),  
the voice
is clanking, than they must login new. After that all is OK. Good  
video, good sound.


I use a 100MBit synchronous Fiberchannel for our OM-server.

It was a conference between the CEO's from me and another "global player".
It bugs me that the CEO's from the other side said that "Zoom runs  
better". (They hat tested Zoom the last weeks.)




Is there a possibility to make our OM "more tolerant"?

Best regards,
René

Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release

[info]

 Hello again,

I have now seen the text in the mouse-over "Mute microphone of others"  
in the dragable user rectangle in the center of the whiteboard, so I  
withdraw my earlier suggestion number 2 - I think this can be left  
exactly as it is.  Sorry about that confusion.


Best regards,

 ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All,
    
   I would like to start a VOTE for new release ASAP
   Are there any blockers?
    
    
--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release

[info]

 Hello Maxim and others,

This is not a "blocker", but a suggestion. I am seeing the following  
on the public video and whiteboard room on latest Chrome on Windows 10:


https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/#room/4

My suggestions:

1)  In the left column user column when I mouse-over the nice green  
microphone icon and the nice green video camera icon, the text states  
"Turn off microphone" ande "Turn off camera".  Since we decided to  
have these icons represent "states" rather than "to-do actions", I  
recommend that the text be changed to:


"Microphone is on. Click to turn off." and "Camera is on. Click to turn off."

2)  In the dragable user rectangle in the middle of the whiteboard -  
which is working fine - I see an orange microphone icon when I  
mouse-over it. Since the microphone is "on", it should be green, not  
orange. Also, since there is no grren camera icon, perhaps neither is  
necessary (since these indicators and controls are already in the  
above-mentioned left hand user column. So I recommend:


either

a) eliminating the microphone symbol in the dragable user rectangle;

or

b) changing its color to green to indicate an "on" state, and adding  
an icon for the camera next to it.


I think these minor changes will help to avoid confusion for users,  
and provide more consistency.


 Since we really want and need a stable 5.0.0 release right now, I  
won't call these release blockers, but I strongly suggest them.


Great work. I don't see any other problems.

best,

 Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All,
    
   I would like to start a VOTE for new release ASAP
   Are there any blockers?
    
    
--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: M4 release date? low-latency kernel?

[info]

 Hello,

You must have NVMe disks on your demo next server - it is so fast. :)

 We'll then I'll test the latest build of M4 ona low-latency kernel.  

Ubuntu makes a few low-latency kernels for audio and video recording  
(for example Ubuntu Studio) - because they have very low latency -  
like 1-2 ms - so I'll test that too on M4, adn I'll let the group know  
if there is a noticable improvement in response time.


I'm going to have to use either the M3 or latest M4 in production  
starting on Monday!


Best,

 ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello Ed,

   On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 16:33,  wrote:


  Hello Maxime,

Do you have a date planned for the M4 release?


 
In case all blockers will be resolved
And there will be none of new blockers
I hope to perform M4 release in couple of weeks
 


Do you have a tentative date for the 5.0.0 stable release?  


 
This actually depends on critical issues reported
I was hoping M2 will be the last one 
we will see :))
 


Is M4 actually a release candidate ? the last one?


 
please see above
 


Lastly, I notice that your test server (demo-next) is very fast and 
very responsive. Are you using a low-latency kernel there? If not, has 
anyne tested ubuntu low-latency kernel with OpenMeetings 5.0.0 M3 or M4?


 
Well,
It is dedicated server with 24G RAM and 8cores CPU
I'm not sure what low-lanency kernel is :(
 
 


Thank you,

  Ed

Quoting Daniel Baker :


 

   I installed it  with a new mysql database   (no backup and import 
) and  get this :

   I have not set  up letencrypt yet so the cameras won't turn on 
which might explain bottom right error.

    

   I am aiming to test the new   Moodle  Plugin
      Name OpenMeetings

      Version 5.0.0-M4-SNAPSHOT

      Revision fd1ca91

      Build date 2020-03-31T08:53:30Z

    

    


    
--
   WBR
Maxim aka solomax

M4 release date? low-latency kernel?

[info]

 Hello Maxime,

Do you have a date planned for the M4 release?

Do you have a tentative date for the 5.0.0 stable release?  

Is M4 actually a release candidate ? the last one?

Lastly, I notice that your test server (demo-next) is very fast and  
very responsive. Are you using a low-latency kernel there? If not, has  
anyne tested ubuntu low-latency kernel with OpenMeetings 5.0.0 M3 or M4?


Thank you,

 Ed

Quoting Daniel Baker :


 

  I installed it  with a new mysql database   (no backup and import  
) and  get this :


  I have not set  up letencrypt yet so the cameras won't turn on  
which might explain bottom right error.


   

  I am aiming to test the new   Moodle  Plugin
 Name OpenMeetings

 Version 5.0.0-M4-SNAPSHOT

 Revision fd1ca91

 Build date 2020-03-31T08:53:30Z

   

   

Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release

[info]

 Hi,

If you mean this, it doesn't exist - file not found error:

https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/demo-next/

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Yep   
   Build server will serve you with the most recent version  
(demo-next has one of the latest builds ...)


 On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 18:10,  wrote:


_Hello,

I want to move my M3 test instance to  M4 (or is there a 5.0.0  
stable alpha or something like that which incorporates nightly the  
M4 changes you are committing?) - I shoudl take the latest 3076 at :


https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/lastBuild/

is that right?

thanks,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :_

_Can you try to update Tomcat to 9.0.33 _ _like  
this https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/pom.xml#L85_

   _ _
   _Most probably it will help with upload_

 _On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 18:02, Peter Dähn  
 wrote:_



_here you are..._


  _Revision__81e95ac_
  _Builddate_   _2020-02-21T14:27:26Z_

_rotating balls are not my issue, I will ask the one. But as far  
as I understand, this doesn't happen any time..._


 _Am 29.03.20 um 12:01 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:_

_can you share revision of your version?  While you have  
"endless rolling balls" do you have any error requests in Dev  
console->Network? anything with status 500 or so?  On Sun, 29  
Mar 2020 at 16:07, Peter Dähn [1] wrote:  _
_Hi Maxim,  1. latest build isn't an option yet. Bootstrap  
changes does't work with our coustom.css. I would prefer to  
"repair" current installation (latest build without   
bootstrap).  Upload wors on demo.  2. There ist also  
*ReferenceError: sipKeyDown is not defined* But this one I  
ignored.  Greetings PeterAm 29.03.20 um 03:14 schrieb Maxim  
Solodovnik:  Are you using most recent version of M4?   Do you  
have these upload issues on demo? (If yes - please share  
problem doc)  * there was an issue in Wicket fixed recently,  
could you update and re-build (new Wicket SNAPSHOT should be  
used automatically)  2) `group/customcss` can be ignored Any  
other errors (in browser console or server log)?  (chat is  
missing sounds like JS error)   On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 08:00,  
Peter Dähn [1] [1] wrote:   Hi  
Maxim,  there are two issues left. Maybe my installation. But  
it is the same behaviour on test and on production.  1. I have  
upload problems. Not specific by time ore size. Same file might  
work or not.  I get an error in the logs, but no recommended  
solution helped.  *WARN  03-28 00:57:13.083  
o.a.w.m.h.f.Form:1469 [io-5080-exec-23] - Upload failed:  
Processing of multipart/form-data request failed.  
java.io.IOException: Stream reset*  
*org.apache.commons.fileupload.FileUploadBase$IOFileUploadException:  
Processing of multipart/form-data request failed.  
java.io.IOException: Stream reset* *at  
org.apache.commons.fileupload.FileUploadBase.parseRequest(FileUploadBase.java:350)* *at org.apache.wicket.protocol.http.servlet.MultipartServletWebRequestImpl.parseFileParts(MultipartServletWebRequestImpl.java:196)* *at org.apache.wicket.markup.html.form.Form.handleMultiPart(Form.java:1419)* *at org.apache.openmeetings.web.room.sidebar.UploadDialog$1.handleMultiPart(UploadDialog.java:83)* *at org.apache.wicket.markup.html.form.Form.onFormSubmitted(Form.java:771)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.ui.widget.dialog.AbstractFormDialog.internalOnClick(AbstractFormDialog.java:215)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.ui.widget.dialog.AbstractDialog$2.onClick(AbstractDialog.java:440)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.ui.widget.dialog.DialogBehavior.onAjax(DialogBehavior.java:188)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.core.ajax.JQueryAjaxBehavior.respond(JQueryAjaxBehavior.java:174)* *at org.apache.wicket.ajax.AbstractDefaultAjaxBehavior.onRequest(AbstractDefaultAjaxBehavior.java:597)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.internalInvoke(ListenerRequestHandler.java:306)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.invoke(ListenerRequestHandler.java:280)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.invokeListener(ListenerRequestHandler.java:222)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.respond(ListenerRequestHandler.java:208)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle$HandlerExecutor.respond(RequestCycle.java:917)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.RequestHandlerExecutor.execute(RequestHandlerExecutor.java:63)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle.execute(RequestCycle.java:283)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle.processRequest(RequestCycle.java:254)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle.processRequestAndDetach(RequestCycle.java:222)* *at org.apache.wicket.protocol.ws.AbstractUpgradeFilter.processRequestCycle(AbstractUpgradeFilter.java:71)* *at 

Re: A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier user experience with the software

[info]

 That's great! Either the orange or red with a slash through it for  
the devices that are off.  That's all I wanted. Personally I do NOT  
like the "EXIT" highlighted in orange - I think that should stay the  
same color as the other text links. That is my opinion.


Best,

 ed

Quoting Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona :


Hi all.

  Maybe you mean something like that. The first image when the  
camera and microphone are activated and other users can see/hear me.  
The second image when the camera and microphone are off, nobody can  
see/hear me.


  Regards.
  El 29/3/20 a las 13:06, i...@bureau-de-poste.net escribió:


 


 Hello,

I'll put my answers prefaced like this -->

--> I don't know javascript and don't use it!  I saw the sandstone  
colors and I would suggest using the green  (success) color for the  
icons to show when the camera and microphone are enabled, and use the  
orange (warning) with the slash through it to show that the camera and  
mike are disabled. That's the only color change I wanted.


 I answered one other thing - the user rectangle volume control  
should be persistent even through a refresh. This would be good, but  
it's not critical, it's easy to reset.  Thanks


Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All, 
I'll try to answer in one email :)

    


 
- The symbol and the text for leaving the room should be  
highlighted (in color?).


 
Could you please color this using color scheme from  
here https://bootswatch.com/sandstone/

And Share the result as picture?
 
(I'm not a designer, and have no imagination, but I believe too  
much colors can ruin everything) 

 


 
- The character > should be inverted in the chat bar. That  
would correspond to the same logic as with the new camera and  
microphone symbol.


 
Will do
 


 
- The color selection dialog should open near the tools  
properties window.
At the moment the color selection appears in the top left corner  
and makes long movements with the mouse.


 
Seems to be opened as expected
Could you re-check with latest version?
 


 
- The icons in the toolbar could be a little bit smaler.  
They almost touch the chat bar. see attached screenshot.


 
Same remark as above,
Can you share the of the room with this change?
 


 
But this should not slow down the release process.   ;-)


 
Yep,
Dozens of mosquitos can kill an elephant ... :)))
 


 
One last idea - and I understand that I am just a tester /  
user of this and that it is your project in which I participate ( I  
also participate in spark, hadoop, nutch - i love apache projects),  
but since you asked, I would change the color of everythign that is  
"ON" or enabled to green and everything that is "OFF" to red - just  
like the traffic lights!  For what it's worth, and I have nothing  
against the color orange!


    


 Same remark as above,
 Can you share the of the room with this change?
  
  

This is better - personally I would color the camera and mic icons  
that are activated, so they look "ON" - (without the slash of  
course) - and to indicate the "OFF" status - it is fine - with the  
slash.


For example, when you hover over (or mouse over) the tiny speaker  
icon in the dragable user rectangle we see the orange-colored  
old-fashioned microphone  image pop-up - this is excellent. I  
would also have theat tiny speaker icon in the dragable user  
rectangle in orange to indicate its state is "ON" when it is on -  
the other two tiny icons (refresh and minimize) at the top of the  
dragable user rectangle are fine in grey since they are settings  
to change not states and users know what to expect with them.

 


  Same remark as above,
   Can you share the of the room with this change?
    
    
    

This is my advice since you asked - I'm more concerned with  
fonctionality! It is working well.


One question - I have tested this extensively in Chrome adn I  
notice that if one sets the volume of teh microphone different  
than 50 (in the tiny icon in the dragable user rectangle) -each  
time I refres the user it si reset to level 50. Is this desired?  
Wouldn't it be better to keep the last user volumn settings  
through a "refresh" since users will most probably use the refresh  
to see or hear another user who may have changed the state of  
their camera and microphone. This is just an idea - it is OK as it  
is since it's easy to reset it.

 


   Actually I thought of this 
   BUT unfortunately this is not that easy
   Actually there are more than one volume
   1) self volume (actually microphone gain)
   2) volume for each user in the room with microphone
    
   userId -> volume can be stored
   Do you think it worth so?

-->  If you can do no. 2 easily it would be good, but it's not  
critical at all.

 

Thansk 

Re: [HELP NEEDED] 5.0.0 release

[info]

 Hello,

I want to move my M3 test instance to  M4 (or is there a 5.0.0 stable  
alpha or something like that which incorporates nightly the M4 changes  
you are committing?) - I shoudl take the latest 3076 at :


https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/lastBuild/

is that right?

thanks,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :

Can you try to update Tomcat to 9.0.33  like  
this https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/pom.xml#L85

    
   Most probably it will help with upload

 On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 18:02, Peter Dähn  wrote:


here you are...


  Revision  81e95ac
  Builddate 2020-02-21T14:27:26Z

rotating balls are not my issue, I will ask the one. But as far as  
I understand, this doesn't happen any time...


 Am 29.03.20 um 12:01 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

can you share revision of your version?  While you have "endless  
rolling balls" do you have any error requests in Dev  
console->Network? anything with status 500 or so?  On Sun, 29 Mar  
2020 at 16:07, Peter Dähn [1] wrote:
Hi Maxim,  1. latest build isn't an option yet. Bootstrap changes  
does't work with our coustom.css. I would prefer to "repair"  
current installation (latest build without  bootstrap).  Upload  
wors on demo.  2. There ist also *ReferenceError: sipKeyDown is  
not defined* But this one I ignored.  Greetings PeterAm  
29.03.20 um 03:14 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:  Are you using most  
recent version of M4?   Do you have these upload issues on demo?  
(If yes - please share problem doc)  * there was an issue in  
Wicket fixed recently, could you update and re-build (new Wicket  
SNAPSHOT should be used automatically)  2) `group/customcss` can  
be ignored Any other errors (in browser console or server log)?   
(chat is missing sounds like JS error)   On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at  
08:00, Peter Dähn [1] [1] wrote:
Hi Maxim,  there are two issues left. Maybe my installation. But  
it is the same behaviour on test and on production.  1. I have  
upload problems. Not specific by time ore size. Same file might  
work or not.  I get an error in the logs, but no recommended  
solution helped.  *WARN  03-28 00:57:13.083 o.a.w.m.h.f.Form:1469  
[io-5080-exec-23] - Upload failed: Processing of  
multipart/form-data request failed. java.io.IOException: Stream  
reset*  
*org.apache.commons.fileupload.FileUploadBase$IOFileUploadException:  
Processing of multipart/form-data request failed.  
java.io.IOException: Stream reset* *at  
org.apache.commons.fileupload.FileUploadBase.parseRequest(FileUploadBase.java:350)* *at org.apache.wicket.protocol.http.servlet.MultipartServletWebRequestImpl.parseFileParts(MultipartServletWebRequestImpl.java:196)* *at org.apache.wicket.markup.html.form.Form.handleMultiPart(Form.java:1419)* *at org.apache.openmeetings.web.room.sidebar.UploadDialog$1.handleMultiPart(UploadDialog.java:83)* *at org.apache.wicket.markup.html.form.Form.onFormSubmitted(Form.java:771)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.ui.widget.dialog.AbstractFormDialog.internalOnClick(AbstractFormDialog.java:215)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.ui.widget.dialog.AbstractDialog$2.onClick(AbstractDialog.java:440)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.ui.widget.dialog.DialogBehavior.onAjax(DialogBehavior.java:188)* *at com.googlecode.wicket.jquery.core.ajax.JQueryAjaxBehavior.respond(JQueryAjaxBehavior.java:174)* *at org.apache.wicket.ajax.AbstractDefaultAjaxBehavior.onRequest(AbstractDefaultAjaxBehavior.java:597)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.internalInvoke(ListenerRequestHandler.java:306)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.invoke(ListenerRequestHandler.java:280)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.invokeListener(ListenerRequestHandler.java:222)* *at org.apache.wicket.core.request.handler.ListenerRequestHandler.respond(ListenerRequestHandler.java:208)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle$HandlerExecutor.respond(RequestCycle.java:917)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.RequestHandlerExecutor.execute(RequestHandlerExecutor.java:63)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle.execute(RequestCycle.java:283)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle.processRequest(RequestCycle.java:254)* *at org.apache.wicket.request.cycle.RequestCycle.processRequestAndDetach(RequestCycle.java:222)* *at org.apache.wicket.protocol.ws.AbstractUpgradeFilter.processRequestCycle(AbstractUpgradeFilter.java:71)* *at org.apache.wicket.protocol.http.WicketFilter.processRequest(WicketFilter.java:207)* *at org.apache.wicket.protocol.http.WicketFilter.doFilter(WicketFilter.java:300)* *at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193)* *at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:166)* *at 

Re: A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier user experience with the software

[info]

 Hello,

I'll put my answers prefaced like this -->

--> I don't know javascript and don't use it!  I saw the sandstone  
colors and I would suggest using the green  (success) color for the  
icons to show when the camera and microphone are enabled, and use the  
orange (warning) with the slash through it to show that the camera and  
mike are disabled. That's the only color change I wanted.


 I answered one other thing - the user rectangle volume control  
should be persistent even through a refresh. This would be good, but  
it's not critical, it's easy to reset.  Thanks


Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Hello All, 
I'll try to answer in one email :)

    


 
- The symbol and the text for leaving the room should be  
highlighted (in color?).


 
Could you please color this using color scheme from  
here https://bootswatch.com/sandstone/

And Share the result as picture?
 
(I'm not a designer, and have no imagination, but I believe too  
much colors can ruin everything) 

 


 
- The character > should be inverted in the chat bar. That  
would correspond to the same logic as with the new camera and  
microphone symbol.


 
Will do
 


 
- The color selection dialog should open near the tools  
properties window.
At the moment the color selection appears in the top left corner  
and makes long movements with the mouse.


 
Seems to be opened as expected
Could you re-check with latest version?
 


 
- The icons in the toolbar could be a little bit smaler.  
They almost touch the chat bar. see attached screenshot.


 
Same remark as above,
Can you share the of the room with this change?
 


 
But this should not slow down the release process.   ;-)


 
Yep,
Dozens of mosquitos can kill an elephant ... :)))
 


 
One last idea - and I understand that I am just a tester /  
user of this and that it is your project in which I participate ( I  
also participate in spark, hadoop, nutch - i love apache projects),  
but since you asked, I would change the color of everythign that is  
"ON" or enabled to green and everything that is "OFF" to red - just  
like the traffic lights!  For what it's worth, and I have nothing  
against the color orange!


    


 Same remark as above,
 Can you share the of the room with this change?
  
  

This is better - personally I would color the camera and mic icons  
that are activated, so they look "ON" - (without the slash of  
course) - and to indicate the "OFF" status - it is fine - with the  
slash.


For example, when you hover over (or mouse over) the tiny speaker  
icon in the dragable user rectangle we see the orange-colored  
old-fashioned microphone  image pop-up - this is excellent. I  
would also have theat tiny speaker icon in the dragable user  
rectangle in orange to indicate its state is "ON" when it is on -  
the other two tiny icons (refresh and minimize) at the top of the  
dragable user rectangle are fine in grey since they are settings  
to change not states and users know what to expect with them.

 


  Same remark as above,
   Can you share the of the room with this change?
    
    
    

This is my advice since you asked - I'm more concerned with  
fonctionality! It is working well.


One question - I have tested this extensively in Chrome adn I  
notice that if one sets the volume of teh microphone different  
than 50 (in the tiny icon in the dragable user rectangle) -each  
time I refres the user it si reset to level 50. Is this desired?  
Wouldn't it be better to keep the last user volumn settings  
through a "refresh" since users will most probably use the refresh  
to see or hear another user who may have changed the state of  
their camera and microphone. This is just an idea - it is OK as it  
is since it's easy to reset it.

 


   Actually I thought of this 
   BUT unfortunately this is not that easy
   Actually there are more than one volume
   1) self volume (actually microphone gain)
   2) volume for each user in the room with microphone
    
   userId -> volume can be stored
   Do you think it worth so?

-->  If you can do no. 2 easily it would be good, but it's not  
critical at all.

 

Thansk for the good work. I'll test this on FF adn Edge and if  
there are any problems will reply again.


 


  


   
  Thanks for the feedback :))

   
--
  WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Aw: Re: A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier user experience with the software

[info]

 One last idea - and I understand that I am just a tester / user of  
this and that it is your project in which I participate ( I also  
participate in spark, hadoop, nutch - i love apache projects), but  
since you asked, I would change the color of everythign that is "ON"  
or enabled to green and everything that is "OFF" to red - just like  
the traffic lights!  For what it's worth, and I have nothing against  
the color orange!


Best Ed

Quoting i...@bureau-de-poste.net:


Hello,

This is better - personally I would color the camera and mic icons  
that are activated, so they look "ON" - (without the slash of  
course) - and to indicate the "OFF" status - it is fine - with the  
slash.


For example, when you hover over (or mouse over) the tiny speaker  
icon in the dragable user rectangle we see the orange-colored  
old-fashioned microphone  image pop-up - this is excellent. I would  
also have theat tiny speaker icon in the dragable user rectangle in  
orange to indicate its state is "ON" when it is on - the other two  
tiny icons (refresh and minimize) at the top of the dragable user  
rectangle are fine in grey since they are settings to change not  
states and users know what to expect with them.


This is my advice since you asked - I'm more concerned with  
fonctionality! It is working well.


One question - I have tested this extensively in Chrome adn I notice  
that if one sets the volume of teh microphone different than 50 (in  
the tiny icon in the dragable user rectangle) -each time I refres  
the user it si reset to level 50. Is this desired? Wouldn't it be  
better to keep the last user volumn settings through a "refresh"  
since users will most probably use the refresh to see or hear  
another user who may have changed the state of their camera and  
microphone. This is just an idea - it is OK as it is since it's easy  
to reset it.


Thansk for the good work. I'll test this on FF adn Edge and if there  
are any problems will reply again.


Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


The demo is updated 
Is it what you want? :)

   On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:58, Maxim Solodovnik  
 wrote:



donewill update demo as soon build will be ready
   
  Will appreciate if you can test it :)

   On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:08, Maxim Solodovnik  
 wrote:


it seems icons have to be changed ...give me  
couple of minutes


   On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:06, Marcus Schulz  
 wrote:


I experienced the same with these buttons. I had to read the  
tooltip also before clicking.

   
  Am Freitag, den 27.03.2020, 11:31 +0100 schrieb Juan  
Antonio Moreno Carmona:


Well, for my part I agree with the suggestion provided by Ed. I  
think it is more intuitive. Maybe other users can contribute  
their opinion.  El 27/3/20 a las 11:29, BBS Technik  
escribió:

I think it is a good ideal to swap it.   Regards   Ed
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2020 um 11:22 UhrVon:  
"Maxim Solodovnik" An: "Openmeetings user-list" < 
user@openmeetings.apache.org>Betreff:  
Re: A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier user  
experience with the softwareWellTo  
implement this I need to swap 2 lines of codeNo  
problem at all if community will approve thisOn  
Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 17:19, < 
i...@bureau-de-poste.net> wrote:
Hello everyone, I love this software 5.0.0 M3  
(running on Ubuntu 18.04) with KMS 6.13 A few  
questions and an important suggestion: 1) I have  
been unable to install this on debian buster so that it  
works well - can this be done? How? We'd like to  
be able to use this on buster. 2) When having  
inexperienced users test our M3 version (and when testing 
 the M4 version -the same problem exists):
  The left-hand user column symbols for camera and  
microphone indicate to-do action links, and I  
think they should indicate actual states - because this   
   is more intuitive and is what users expect.
  So, I suggest instead of showing a microphone with a red  
circle with a white "x" in it in M3 or an orange  
old-fashion mic symbol with a slash through it  
in M4 to indicate that the mic is "ON" and that you have to   
   click on it to turn it "OFF", I suggest that  
exactly the opposite be shown: the actual state  
of the feature - that a slash through a symbol (perhaps in
  grey to double indicate it is off) indicates that  
it is "OFF" and a colored on symbol or icon  
without a slash indicates that it is "ON" The  
same suggestion for the camera. 95 % of user  
problems that I have encountered result from this. 

Re: Aw: Re: A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier user experience with the software

[info]

 Hello,

This is better - personally I would color the camera and mic icons  
that are activated, so they look "ON" - (without the slash of course)  
- and to indicate the "OFF" status - it is fine - with the slash.


For example, when you hover over (or mouse over) the tiny speaker icon  
in the dragable user rectangle we see the orange-colored old-fashioned  
microphone  image pop-up - this is excellent. I would also have theat  
tiny speaker icon in the dragable user rectangle in orange to indicate  
its state is "ON" when it is on - the other two tiny icons (refresh  
and minimize) at the top of the dragable user rectangle are fine in  
grey since they are settings to change not states and users know what  
to expect with them.


This is my advice since you asked - I'm more concerned with  
fonctionality! It is working well.


One question - I have tested this extensively in Chrome adn I notice  
that if one sets the volume of teh microphone different than 50 (in  
the tiny icon in the dragable user rectangle) -each time I refres the  
user it si reset to level 50. Is this desired? Wouldn't it be better  
to keep the last user volumn settings through a "refresh" since users  
will most probably use the refresh to see or hear another user who may  
have changed the state of their camera and microphone. This is just an  
idea - it is OK as it is since it's easy to reset it.


Thansk for the good work. I'll test this on FF adn Edge and if there  
are any problems will reply again.


Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


The demo is updated   
   Is it what you want? :)

 On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:58, Maxim Solodovnik  
 wrote:



done  will update demo as soon build will be ready
  
 Will appreciate if you can test it :)

 On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:08, Maxim Solodovnik  
 wrote:


it seems icons have to be changed ...  give me couple  
of minutes


 On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:06, Marcus Schulz  
 wrote:


I experienced the same with these buttons. I had to read the  
tooltip also before clicking.

  
 Am Freitag, den 27.03.2020, 11:31 +0100 schrieb Juan  
Antonio Moreno Carmona:


Well, for my part I agree with the suggestion provided by Ed. I  
think it is more intuitive. Maybe other users can contribute  
their opinion. El 27/3/20 a las 11:29, BBS Technik  
escribió:

I think it is a good ideal to swap it.  Regards  Ed
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2020 um 11:22 Uhr   Von:  
"Maxim Solodovnik" <   solomax...@gmail.com
>   An: "Openmeetings user-list" <
user@openmeetings.apache.org   >   Betreff:  
Re: A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier user  
experience with the software   Well   To  
implement this I need to swap 2 lines of code   No  
problem at all if community will approve this   On  
Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 17:19, <
i...@bureau-de-poste.net   > wrote:
Hello everyone,I love this software 5.0.0 M3  
(running on Ubuntu 18.04) with KMS 6.13A few  
questions and an important suggestion:1) I have  
been unable to install this on debian buster so that it works  
   well - can this be done? How? We'd like to be able  
to use this on buster.2) When having  
inexperienced users test our M3 version (and when testing  
   the M4 version -the same problem exists): 
The left-hand user column symbols for camera and microphone  
indicate to-doaction links, and I think they  
should indicate actual states - because thisis  
more intuitive and is what users expect.So, I  
suggest instead of showing a microphone with a red circle  
with awhite "x" in it in M3 or an orange  
old-fashion mic symbol with a slashthrough it in  
M4 to indicate that the mic is "ON" and that you have to   
  click on it to turn it "OFF", I suggest that exactly  
the opposite be shown:the actual state of the  
feature - that a slash through a symbol (perhaps in
 grey to double indicate it is off) indicates that it is  
"OFF" and a coloredon symbol or icon without a  
slash indicates that it is "ON"The same  
suggestion for the camera.95 % of user problems  
that I have encountered result from this. Users see
 something with a slash through it and they think that means  
that it is"OFF" or not activated. Why not give  
users what they expect intuitivelyrather than  
force them to behave different than usual for this app?
 I love this app/project, and this is just a friendly  
suggestion, notcriticism.best to all   
  Ed


-- WBR   Maxim aka solomax


   
--
  WBR
Maxim aka solomax


 
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


   
--
  WBR

Re: unable to get KMS 6.13.0 started on debian buster 5.0.0 M3 tomcat3 running OK

[info]

 resource limits for 
Kurento Media Server.
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] kurento-media-server[7791]: 
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: 122: 
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: Pipe call failed
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: 
kurento-media-server.service: Control process exited, code=exited, 
status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: 
kurento-media-server.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: Failed to start 
LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon.
 

root@server1 ~ # aptitude show kurento-media-server
  Package: kurento-media-server
  Version: 6.13.0-0kurento1.18.04
  New: yes
  State: installed
  Automatically installed: no
  Priority: optional
  Section: video
  Maintainer: Kurento 
  Architecture: amd64
  Uncompressed Size: 2,043 k
  Depends: kms-core (>= 6.7.0), kms-jsonrpc, kmsjsoncpp, 
libboost-filesystem1.65.1, libboost-log1.65.1, 
libboost-program-options1.65.1,
           libboost-system1.65.1, libboost-thread1.65.1, libc6 (>= 
2.24), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.41.1), libglibmm-2.4-1v5 
(>= 2.54.0),
           libgstreamer1.5-0 (>= 1.8.1), libsigc++-2.0-0v5 (>= 2.8.0), 
libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0), libstdc++6 (>= 6), binutils, gstreamer1.5-libav,
           gstreamer1.5-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.5-plugins-base, 
gstreamer1.5-plugins-good, gstreamer1.5-plugins-ugly, kms-elements (>= 
6.7.0), kms-filters
           (>= 6.7.0), libgstreamer-plugins-base1.5-0
  Suggests: kurento-dbg
  Breaks: kurento-media-server-6.0
  Replaces: kurento-media-server-6.0
  Description: Kurento Media Server
   KMS is a WebRTC-compatible server that processes audio and video 
streams, doing composable pipeline-based processing of media.
  Homepage: https://www.kurento.org

this is the output of /opt/log/openmeetings.log:
    INFO 03-14 15:54:38.301 o.s.w.c.ContextLoader:271 [main] - Root 
WebApplicationContext: initialization started
    INFO 03-14 15:54:38.953 o.s.o.j.LocalEntityManagerFactoryBean:416 
[main] - Initialized JPA EntityManagerFactory for persistence unit 
'openmeetings'
    INFO 03-14 15:54:39.170 o.s.s.c.ThreadPoolTaskExecutor:171 [main] 
- Initializing ExecutorService 'taskExecutor'
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.406 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:191 
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Connecting native client
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.409 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:220 
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Creating new NioEventLoopGroup
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.526 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:234 
[ntLoopGroup-2-1] - [KurentoClient]  Initiating new Netty channel. 
Will create new handler too!
    WARN 03-14 15:54:40.579 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:308 
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Trying to close a 
JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket with channel == null
    WARN 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClient:270 
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Error sending heartbeat to 
server. Exception: [KurentoClient]  Exception connecting to WebSocket 
server ws://127.0.0.1:/kurento
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:191 
[main] - [KurentoClient]  Connecting native client
    WARN 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClient:287 
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Stopping heartbeat and closing 
client: failure during heartbeat mechanism
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:220 
[main] - [KurentoClient]  Creating new NioEventLoopGroup
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.582 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:234 
[ntLoopGroup-3-1] - [KurentoClient]  Initiating new Netty channel. 
Will create new handler too!
    WARN 03-14 15:54:40.584 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:308 
[main] - [KurentoClient]  Trying to close a 
JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket with channel == null
    WARN 03-14 15:54:40.585 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:124 [main] - Fail 
to create Kurento client, will re-try in 1 ms
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.707 o.q.i.StdSchedulerFactory:1220 [main] - 
Using default implementation for ThreadExecutor
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.716 o.q.c.SchedulerSignalerImpl:61 [main] - 
Initialized Scheduler Signaller of type: class 
org.quartz.core.SchedulerSignalerImpl
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.716 o.q.c.QuartzScheduler:229 [main] - Quartz 
Scheduler v.2.3.2 created.
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.717 o.q.s.RAMJobStore:155 [main] - RAMJobStore 
initialized.
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.717 o.q.c.QuartzScheduler:294 [main] - 
Scheduler meta-data: Quartz Scheduler (v2.3.2) 
'org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0' with 
instanceId 'NON_CLUSTERED'
     Scheduler class: 'org.quartz.core.QuartzScheduler' -  
running locally.

     NOT STARTED.
     Currently in standby mode.
     Number of jobs executed: 0
     Using thread pool 'org.quartz.simpl.SimpleThreadPool' -  
with 10 threads.

     Using job-store 'org.quartz.simpl.RAMJobStore' - which does not 
support persistence. and is not clustered.

port 888

Re: unable to get KMS 6.13.0 started on debian buster 5.0.0 M3 tomcat3 running OK

[info]

 of course - on both the /etc/init.d/kurento-media-server and  
/etc/default/kurento-media-server files


Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


Do you have START_DAEMON="true" ?

 On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 23:05,  wrote:

_It's true that in /etc/default/kurento-media-server the user was  
set to "kurento" - changing it to "nobody" (which I HAD done before  
but probably forgot to do with update from 6.10 to 6.13 did not help:

 _
 _● kurento-media-server.service - LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon_
 _   Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server; generated)_
 _   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2020-03-27  
17:00:24 CET; 6s ago_

 _     Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)_
 _  Process: 6939 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server  
start (code=exited, status=2)_

 _ _
 _Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: Starting  
LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon..._
 _Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz[1]  
kurento-media-server[6939]: Start Kurento Media Server:Configure  
Kernel resource limits for Kurento Media Serv_
 _Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz[1]  
kurento-media-server[6939]: /etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: 122:  
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: Pipe call_
 _Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]:  
kurento-media-server.service: Control process exited, code=exited,  
status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT_
 _Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]:  
kurento-media-server.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'._
 _Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: Failed to  
start LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon._




_You probably don't have time to help with this now, Maxim, as work  
on getting 5.0.0 to release is more important I understand.  If  
someone else has this up and running  - especially M4 (which I plan  
to move to tomorrow) on buster, please let me know if you can help  
debug om logs.


regards,_

 _ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :_


_/etc/default/kurento-media-server_
   _ _
   _START_DAEMON="true"_
   _DAEMON_USER="nobody"     SAME USER AS STARTED OM_

 _On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 22:15,  
 wrote:_



_    systemctl status kurento-media-server.status returns:
● kurento-media-server.service - LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon
      Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server; generated)
      Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2020-03-21 22:12:26 
CET; 5 days ago
        Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
     Process: 7791 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start 
(code=exited, status=2)
    
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: Starting LSB: 
Kurento Media Server daemon...
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] kurento-media-server[7791]: 
Start Kurento Media Server:Configure Kernel resource limits for 
Kurento Media Server.
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] kurento-media-server[7791]: 
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: 122: 
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: Pipe call failed
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: 
kurento-media-server.service: Control process exited, code=exited, 
status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: 
kurento-media-server.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: Failed to start 
LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon.
 

root@server1 ~ # aptitude show kurento-media-server
  Package: kurento-media-server
  Version: 6.13.0-0kurento1.18.04
  New: yes
  State: installed
  Automatically installed: no
  Priority: optional
  Section: video
  Maintainer: Kurento 
  Architecture: amd64
  Uncompressed Size: 2,043 k
  Depends: kms-core (>= 6.7.0), kms-jsonrpc, kmsjsoncpp, 
libboost-filesystem1.65.1, libboost-log1.65.1, 
libboost-program-options1.65.1,
           libboost-system1.65.1, libboost-thread1.65.1, libc6 (>= 
2.24), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.41.1), libglibmm-2.4-1v5 
(>= 2.54.0),
           libgstreamer1.5-0 (>= 1.8.1), libsigc++-2.0-0v5 (>= 2.8.0), 
libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0), libstdc++6 (>= 6), binutils, gstreamer1.5-libav,
           gstreamer1.5-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.5-plugins-base, 
gstreamer1.5-plugins-good, gstreamer1.5-plugins-ugly, kms-elements (>= 
6.7.0), kms-filters
           (>= 6.7.0), libgstreamer-plugins-base1.5-0
  Suggests: kurento-dbg
  Breaks: kurento-media-server-6.0
  Replaces: kurento-media-server-6.0
  Description: Kurento Media Server
   KMS is a WebRTC-compatible server that processes audio and video 
streams, doing composable pipeline-based processing of media.
  Homepage: https://www.kurento.org

this is the output of /opt/log/openmeetings.log:
    INFO 03-14 15:54:38.301 o.s.w.c.ContextLoader:271 [main] - Root 
WebApplicationContext: initialization started
    INFO 03-14 15:54:38.953 o.s.o.j.LocalEntityManagerFactoryBean:416 
[main] - Initialized JPA En

Re: unable to get KMS 6.13.0 started on debian buster 5.0.0 M3 tomcat3 running OK

[info]

 It's true that in /etc/default/kurento-media-server the user was set  
to "kurento" - changing it to "nobody" (which I HAD done before but  
probably forgot to do with update from 6.10 to 6.13 did not help:

 
 ● kurento-media-server.service - LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon
    Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server; generated)
    Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2020-03-27 17:00:24  
CET; 6s ago

      Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
   Process: 6939 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start  
(code=exited, status=2)

  
 Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]: Starting LSB:  
Kurento Media Server daemon...
 Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz kurento-media-server[6939]:  
Start Kurento Media Server:Configure Kernel resource limits for  
Kurento Media Serv
 Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz kurento-media-server[6939]:  
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: 122:  
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: Pipe call
 Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]:  
kurento-media-server.service: Control process exited, code=exited,  
status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
 Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]:  
kurento-media-server.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
 Mar 27 17:00:24 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB:  
Kurento Media Server daemon.




You probably don't have time to help with this now, Maxim, as work on  
getting 5.0.0 to release is more important I understand.  If someone  
else has this up and running  - especially M4 (which I plan to move to  
tomorrow) on buster, please let me know if you can help debug om logs.


regards,

 ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :


/etc/default/kurento-media-server
    
   START_DAEMON="true"
   DAEMON_USER="nobody"     SAME USER AS STARTED OM

 On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 22:15,  wrote:


    systemctl status kurento-media-server.status returns:
● kurento-media-server.service - LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon
      Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server; generated)
      Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2020-03-21 22:12:26 
CET; 5 days ago
        Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
     Process: 7791 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start 
(code=exited, status=2)
    
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: Starting LSB: 
Kurento Media Server daemon...
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] kurento-media-server[7791]: 
Start Kurento Media Server:Configure Kernel resource limits for 
Kurento Media Server.
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] kurento-media-server[7791]: 
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: 122: 
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: Pipe call failed
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: 
kurento-media-server.service: Control process exited, code=exited, 
status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: 
kurento-media-server.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
   Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz[1] systemd[1]: Failed to start 
LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon.
 

root@server1 ~ # aptitude show kurento-media-server
  Package: kurento-media-server
  Version: 6.13.0-0kurento1.18.04
  New: yes
  State: installed
  Automatically installed: no
  Priority: optional
  Section: video
  Maintainer: Kurento 
  Architecture: amd64
  Uncompressed Size: 2,043 k
  Depends: kms-core (>= 6.7.0), kms-jsonrpc, kmsjsoncpp, 
libboost-filesystem1.65.1, libboost-log1.65.1, 
libboost-program-options1.65.1,
           libboost-system1.65.1, libboost-thread1.65.1, libc6 (>= 
2.24), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.41.1), libglibmm-2.4-1v5 
(>= 2.54.0),
           libgstreamer1.5-0 (>= 1.8.1), libsigc++-2.0-0v5 (>= 2.8.0), 
libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0), libstdc++6 (>= 6), binutils, gstreamer1.5-libav,
           gstreamer1.5-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.5-plugins-base, 
gstreamer1.5-plugins-good, gstreamer1.5-plugins-ugly, kms-elements (>= 
6.7.0), kms-filters
           (>= 6.7.0), libgstreamer-plugins-base1.5-0
  Suggests: kurento-dbg
  Breaks: kurento-media-server-6.0
  Replaces: kurento-media-server-6.0
  Description: Kurento Media Server
   KMS is a WebRTC-compatible server that processes audio and video 
streams, doing composable pipeline-based processing of media.
  Homepage: https://www.kurento.org

this is the output of /opt/log/openmeetings.log:
    INFO 03-14 15:54:38.301 o.s.w.c.ContextLoader:271 [main] - Root 
WebApplicationContext: initialization started
    INFO 03-14 15:54:38.953 o.s.o.j.LocalEntityManagerFactoryBean:416 
[main] - Initialized JPA EntityManagerFactory for persistence unit 
'openmeetings'
    INFO 03-14 15:54:39.170 o.s.s.c.ThreadPoolTaskExecutor:171 [main] 
- Initializing ExecutorService 'taskExecutor'
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.406 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:191 
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Connecting native client
    INFO 03-14 15:54:40.409 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:220 
[rbeatExec-e

unable to get KMS 6.13.0 started on debian buster 5.0.0 M3 tomcat3 running OK

[info]

   systemctl status kurento-media-server.status returns:
● kurento-media-server.service - LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon
     Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server; generated)
     Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2020-03-21 22:12:26  
CET; 5 days ago

       Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
    Process: 7791 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server start  
(code=exited, status=2)

   
  Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]: Starting LSB:  
Kurento Media Server daemon...
  Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz kurento-media-server[7791]:  
Start Kurento Media Server:Configure Kernel resource limits for  
Kurento Media Server.
  Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz kurento-media-server[7791]:  
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: 122:  
/etc/init.d/kurento-media-server: Pipe call failed
  Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]:  
kurento-media-server.service: Control process exited, code=exited,  
status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
  Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]:  
kurento-media-server.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
  Mar 21 22:12:26 server1.searchy.biz systemd[1]: Failed to start  
LSB: Kurento Media Server daemon.

 

root@server1 ~ # aptitude show kurento-media-server
 Package: kurento-media-server
 Version: 6.13.0-0kurento1.18.04
 New: yes
 State: installed
 Automatically installed: no
 Priority: optional
 Section: video
 Maintainer: Kurento 
 Architecture: amd64
 Uncompressed Size: 2,043 k
 Depends: kms-core (>= 6.7.0), kms-jsonrpc, kmsjsoncpp,  
libboost-filesystem1.65.1, libboost-log1.65.1,  
libboost-program-options1.65.1,
          libboost-system1.65.1, libboost-thread1.65.1, libc6 (>=  
2.24), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.41.1), libglibmm-2.4-1v5  
(>= 2.54.0),
          libgstreamer1.5-0 (>= 1.8.1), libsigc++-2.0-0v5 (>= 2.8.0),  
libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0), libstdc++6 (>= 6), binutils, gstreamer1.5-libav,
          gstreamer1.5-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.5-plugins-base,  
gstreamer1.5-plugins-good, gstreamer1.5-plugins-ugly, kms-elements (>=  
6.7.0), kms-filters

          (>= 6.7.0), libgstreamer-plugins-base1.5-0
 Suggests: kurento-dbg
 Breaks: kurento-media-server-6.0
 Replaces: kurento-media-server-6.0
 Description: Kurento Media Server
  KMS is a WebRTC-compatible server that processes audio and video  
streams, doing composable pipeline-based processing of media.

 Homepage: https://www.kurento.org

this is the output of /opt/log/openmeetings.log:
   INFO 03-14 15:54:38.301 o.s.w.c.ContextLoader:271 [main] - Root  
WebApplicationContext: initialization started
   INFO 03-14 15:54:38.953 o.s.o.j.LocalEntityManagerFactoryBean:416  
[main] - Initialized JPA EntityManagerFactory for persistence unit  
'openmeetings'
   INFO 03-14 15:54:39.170 o.s.s.c.ThreadPoolTaskExecutor:171 [main]  
- Initializing ExecutorService 'taskExecutor'
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.406 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:191  
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Connecting native client
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.409 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:220  
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Creating new NioEventLoopGroup
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.526 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:234  
[ntLoopGroup-2-1] - [KurentoClient]  Initiating new Netty channel.  
Will create new handler too!
   WARN 03-14 15:54:40.579 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:308  
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Trying to close a  
JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket with channel == null
   WARN 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClient:270  
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Error sending heartbeat to  
server. Exception: [KurentoClient]  Exception connecting to WebSocket  
server ws://127.0.0.1:/kurento
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:191  
[main] - [KurentoClient]  Connecting native client
   WARN 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClient:287  
[rbeatExec-e1-t0] - [KurentoClient]  Stopping heartbeat and closing  
client: failure during heartbeat mechanism
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.581 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:220  
[main] - [KurentoClient]  Creating new NioEventLoopGroup
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.582 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:234  
[ntLoopGroup-3-1] - [KurentoClient]  Initiating new Netty channel.  
Will create new handler too!
   WARN 03-14 15:54:40.584 o.k.j.c.JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket:308  
[main] - [KurentoClient]  Trying to close a  
JsonRpcClientNettyWebSocket with channel == null
   WARN 03-14 15:54:40.585 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:124 [main] - Fail  
to create Kurento client, will re-try in 1 ms
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.707 o.q.i.StdSchedulerFactory:1220 [main] -  
Using default implementation for ThreadExecutor
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.716 o.q.c.SchedulerSignalerImpl:61 [main] -  
Initialized Scheduler Signaller of type: class  
org.quartz.core.SchedulerSignalerImpl
   INFO 03-14 15:54:40.716 o.q.c.QuartzScheduler:229 [main] - Quartz  
Scheduler v.2.3.2 created.
   INFO 03-14 15:54:4

A general Suggestion from a tester who'd like easier user experience with the software

[info]

Hello everyone,

I love this software 5.0.0 M3 (running on Ubuntu 18.04) with KMS 6.13

A few questions and an important suggestion:

1) I have been unable to install this on debian buster so that it  
works well - can this be done? How? We'd like to be able to use this  
on buster.


2) When having inexperienced users test our M3 version (and when  
testing the M4 version -the same problem exists):


The left-hand user column symbols for camera and microphone indicate  
to-do action links, and I think they should indicate actual states -  
because this is more intuitive and is what users expect.


So, I suggest instead of showing a microphone with a red circle with a  
white "x" in it in M3 or an orange old-fashion mic symbol with a slash  
through it in M4 to indicate that the mic is "ON" and that you have to  
click on it to turn it "OFF", I suggest that exactly the opposite be  
shown: the actual state of the feature - that a slash through a symbol  
(perhaps in grey to double indicate it is off) indicates that it is  
"OFF" and a colored on symbol or icon without a slash indicates that  
it is "ON"


The same suggestion for the camera.

95 % of user problems that I have encountered result from this. Users  
see something with a slash through it and they think that means that  
it is "OFF" or not activated. Why not give users what they expect  
intuitively rather than force them to behave different than usual for  
this app?


I love this app/project, and this is just a friendly suggestion, not  
criticism.


best to all

Ed

Re: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?

[info]

 I was using the old edge. On the new edge the mic is not activated  
by default, but it can be turned on and the icon changes to the  
colored icon with slash, and it works.


Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :

What Edge are you using?  Super new  
Edge https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge or old Edge?

    
   I see the issue with auto-start in Chrome
   please file  
JIRA https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS- will  
investigate ASAP


 On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 20:47,  wrote:

_At https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/#room/9643   -  a public  
audio only room:


On Edge, there is no "x" on the mic icon, and the mic is not "on"  
by default - it can be enabled by clicking on the mic icon, and it  
works when done, however no red-white "x" appears on the mic icon.


On Chrome: the mic is not enabled by default, when I click on it,  
it turns orangish color and has backslash through it, but it still  
doesn't work - even though I can see the green audio level rising  
when I speak. This is with the other user's mic (I am connected as  
two different users using the two different browsers) disabled.


When I enable the other users mike (the user on edge) it still  
doesn't work for the user on Chrome. Additionally, each time I  
click on the mic as the chrome user, another little "speaker" icon  
with its own volume level appears in the user column at the right  
of the user next to the green dot.


I hope this helps,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :_

_Is this reproducible for you at demo server? _  
_https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/_

   _ _
   _(I just have created "Public Audio-Only Conference Room")_

 _On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 20:19,  
 wrote:_



__Hello Again,

I hope I'm not top posting or something like that - I'm new to  
mailing lists.


Once again I made an error describing the problem. Here is  
exactly what happens:


On Chrome, in an audio only room, the mic is not enabled by  
default. It can be enabled, and the red-white "x" appears on the  
mic icon, but it does not work - no sound comes back.


On Edge, in an audio only room, the mic is not enabled by  
default, and clicking on it does not give the red-white "x" on  
the mic icon; even after refreshing, etc; but it does work!


I have verified this twice.

Ed

- Forwarded message from i...@bureau-de-poste.net -
    Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:10:48 +
    From: i...@bureau-de-poste.net
Reply-To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?
      To:_
 _

 __Hello,__

 __Actually I made an error - when I manually click on  
the mic in an audio only room, the mic does work, but the red adn  
white "x" does not appear on the microphone symbol. Do you want  
me to file a bug report on this ?


Thank you.

Ed
- Forwarded message from i...@bureau-de-poste.net -
    Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:08:00 +
    From: i...@bureau-de-poste.net
Reply-To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?
      To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
 __

 __Hello,

thanks, but on Chrome and on Edge (on Wondows 10 Pro) the mic is  
not turned on by default for me. Could this be because my camera  
on this laptop has the mic built-in to it?  For example, Even  
when I manually turn the mic on in an audio only room, I still  
can't hear myself, as I can when both the camera and mic are  
enabled in a regular conference room. So, it is working by  
default, but only if both are enabled in conference type room. Is  
this the intended behavior?


thanks,__

 __Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :__

__this is default for room of type "conference"_ _
  __You can turn on "Audio-only" flag, in this case camera  
will be unavailable for everybody in the room__


 __On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 19:14,  
 wrote:__



___Hello,

Is there a way to configure the microphone and / or the camera  
to be automatically "ON" (activated) for a room, so that all  
connected users have these values set to on by default?  I  
can't find a way to do this.  


This is on 5.0.0 M3

Thank you.

Ed___


  __ __
___--___
  ___WBR
Maxim aka solomax___



__ __



__- End forwarded message -__



__- End forwarded message -__


  _ _
__--__
  __WBR
Maxim aka solomax__



 


   
_-- _
  _WBR
Maxim aka solomax_

Re: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?

[info]

 At https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/#room/9643   -  a public  
audio only room:


On Edge, there is no "x" on the mic icon, and the mic is not "on" by  
default - it can be enabled by clicking on the mic icon, and it works  
when done, however no red-white "x" appears on the mic icon.


On Chrome: the mic is not enabled by default, when I click on it, it  
turns orangish color and has backslash through it, but it still  
doesn't work - even though I can see the green audio level rising when  
I speak. This is with the other user's mic (I am connected as two  
different users using the two different browsers) disabled.


When I enable the other users mike (the user on edge) it still doesn't  
work for the user on Chrome. Additionally, each time I click on the  
mic as the chrome user, another little "speaker" icon with its own  
volume level appears in the user column at the right of the user next  
to the green dot.


I hope this helps,

Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :

Is this reproducible for you at demo server?   
https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/

    
   (I just have created "Public Audio-Only Conference Room")

 On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 20:19,  wrote:


_Hello Again,

I hope I'm not top posting or something like that - I'm new to  
mailing lists.


Once again I made an error describing the problem. Here is exactly  
what happens:


On Chrome, in an audio only room, the mic is not enabled by  
default. It can be enabled, and the red-white "x" appears on the  
mic icon, but it does not work - no sound comes back.


On Edge, in an audio only room, the mic is not enabled by default,  
and clicking on it does not give the red-white "x" on the mic icon;  
even after refreshing, etc; but it does work!


I have verified this twice.

Ed

- Forwarded message from i...@bureau-de-poste.net -
    Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:10:48 +
    From: i...@bureau-de-poste.net
Reply-To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?
      To:_
 

 _Hello,_

 _Actually I made an error - when I manually click on the mic  
in an audio only room, the mic does work, but the red adn white "x"  
does not appear on the microphone symbol. Do you want me to file a  
bug report on this ?


Thank you.

Ed
- Forwarded message from i...@bureau-de-poste.net -
    Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:08:00 +
    From: i...@bureau-de-poste.net
Reply-To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?
      To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
 _

 _Hello,

thanks, but on Chrome and on Edge (on Wondows 10 Pro) the mic is  
not turned on by default for me. Could this be because my camera on  
this laptop has the mic built-in to it?  For example, Even when I  
manually turn the mic on in an audio only room, I still can't hear  
myself, as I can when both the camera and mic are enabled in a  
regular conference room. So, it is working by default, but only if  
both are enabled in conference type room. Is this the intended  
behavior?


thanks,_

 _Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :_

_this is default for room of type "conference" _ _You  
can turn on "Audio-only" flag, in this case camera will be  
unavailable for everybody in the room_


 _On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 19:14,  
 wrote:_



__Hello,

Is there a way to configure the microphone and / or the camera to  
be automatically "ON" (activated) for a room, so that all  
connected users have these values set to on by default?  I can't  
find a way to do this.  


This is on 5.0.0 M3

Thank you.

Ed__


  _ _
__--__
  __WBR
Maxim aka solomax__



_ _



_- End forwarded message -_



_- End forwarded message -_


   
_-- _
  _WBR
Maxim aka solomax_

Fwd: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?

[info]

Hello Again,

I hope I'm not top posting or something like that - I'm new to mailing lists.

Once again I made an error describing the problem. Here is exactly  
what happens:


On Chrome, in an audio only room, the mic is not enabled by default.  
It can be enabled, and the red-white "x" appears on the mic icon, but  
it does not work - no sound comes back.


On Edge, in an audio only room, the mic is not enabled by default, and  
clicking on it does not give the red-white "x" on the mic icon; even  
after refreshing, etc; but it does work!


I have verified this twice.

Ed

- Forwarded message from i...@bureau-de-poste.net -
    Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:10:48 +
    From: i...@bureau-de-poste.net
Reply-To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?
      To:

 Hello,

 Actually I made an error - when I manually click on the mic in an  
audio only room, the mic does work, but the red adn white "x" does not  
appear on the microphone symbol. Do you want me to file a bug report  
on this ?


Thank you.

Ed
- Forwarded message from i...@bureau-de-poste.net -
    Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:08:00 +
    From: i...@bureau-de-poste.net
Reply-To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?
      To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
 

 Hello,

thanks, but on Chrome and on Edge (on Wondows 10 Pro) the mic is not  
turned on by default for me. Could this be because my camera on this  
laptop has the mic built-in to it?  For example, Even when I manually  
turn the mic on in an audio only room, I still can't hear myself, as I  
can when both the camera and mic are enabled in a regular conference  
room. So, it is working by default, but only if both are enabled in  
conference type room. Is this the intended behavior?


thanks,

 Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :

this is default for room of type "conference"  You can turn on  
"Audio-only" flag, in this case camera will be unavailable for  
everybody in the room


 On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 19:14,  wrote:


_Hello,

Is there a way to configure the microphone and / or the camera to  
be automatically "ON" (activated) for a room, so that all connected  
users have these values set to on by default?  I can't find a way  
to do this.  


This is on 5.0.0 M3

Thank you.

Ed_


   
_--_
  _WBR
Maxim aka solomax_



 



- End forwarded message -

- End forwarded message -

How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?

[info]

 Hello,

 Actually I made an error - when I manually click on the mic in an  
audio only room, the mic does work, but the red adn white "x" does not  
appear on the microphone symbol. Do you want me to file a bug report  
on this ?


Thank you.

Ed
- Forwarded message from i...@bureau-de-poste.net -
    Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:08:00 +
    From: i...@bureau-de-poste.net
Reply-To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?
      To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
 

 Hello,

thanks, but on Chrome and on Edge (on Wondows 10 Pro) the mic is not  
turned on by default for me. Could this be because my camera on this  
laptop has the mic built-in to it?  For example, Even when I manually  
turn the mic on in an audio only room, I still can't hear myself, as I  
can when both the camera and mic are enabled in a regular conference  
room. So, it is working by default, but only if both are enabled in  
conference type room. Is this the intended behavior?


thanks,

 Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :

this is default for room of type "conference"  You can turn on  
"Audio-only" flag, in this case camera will be unavailable for  
everybody in the room


 On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 19:14,  wrote:


_Hello,

Is there a way to configure the microphone and / or the camera to  
be automatically "ON" (activated) for a room, so that all connected  
users have these values set to on by default?  I can't find a way  
to do this.  


This is on 5.0.0 M3

Thank you.

Ed_


   
_--_
  _WBR
Maxim aka solomax_



 

- End forwarded message -

Re: How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?

[info]

 Hello,

thanks, but on Chrome and on Edge (on Wondows 10 Pro) the mic is not  
turned on by default for me. Could this be because my camera on this  
laptop has the mic built-in to it?  For example, Even when I manually  
turn the mic on in an audio only room, I still can't hear myself, as I  
can when both the camera and mic are enabled in a regular conference  
room. So, it is working by default, but only if both are enabled in  
conference type room. Is this the intended behavior?


thanks,

 Ed

Quoting Maxim Solodovnik :

this is default for room of type "conference"  You can turn on  
"Audio-only" flag, in this case camera will be unavailable for  
everybody in the room


 On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 19:14,  wrote:


_Hello,

Is there a way to configure the microphone and / or the camera to  
be automatically "ON" (activated) for a room, so that all connected  
users have these values set to on by default?  I can't find a way  
to do this.  


This is on 5.0.0 M3

Thank you.

Ed_


   
_-- _
  _WBR
Maxim aka solomax_

How to set mic default=on for a specific room or user?

[info]

 Hello,

Is there a way to configure the microphone and / or the camera to be  
automatically "ON" (activated) for a room, so that all connected users  
have these values set to on by default?  I can't find a way to do  
this.  


This is on 5.0.0 M3

Thank you.

Ed

questions about enabling https for both versions 5.0.0 M3 and 4.0.10

[info]

 Hello,

Two questions about enabling https properly so the browsers don't  
block the site:


1) I wonder if you have a guide for enabling https on the Debian  
Buster 10 with OpenMeetings 4.0.10 using the red5-2 tomcat server?


There isn't a keystore file in this version like there is for the  
tomcat3 version of OM 5.0.0 M3, which I got working. There is file  
called /opt/red54010/conf/keystore.jmx, but it won't take PKCS  
credentials like tomcat3 will.


We have a valid lets encrypt cert for the domain and just want to  
convert it and import it, but where exactly and how?


-

2) The https guide for 5.0.0 M3 really helped. Thank you. We have  
https working on the Ubuntu 18.04 OM 5.0.0 M3 working ok - but only  
for 1 domain. 


Can this setup be modified so that instead of  
/opt/open503/conf/keystore inwhich the credentials can be stored (only  
one can have an alias of openmeetings, it appears, so only 1 domain  
will be secured) can we create a 
/opt/open503/conf/keystore directory into which we can add a domain1  
directory, and a domain2 directory into which respective keystores can  
be imported if we mant to run openmeetings for more than 1 domain  
securely on the same server?


Thank you for your help, and for a great project!

Ed

New user config question - 1st post

[info]

Hello,

I'm a debian server admin with almost no experience with JAVA (I do  
run solr 5 on jetty9, so have some idea about CATALINA and .jar files,  
etc).


I have installed OM 5.0.0 M3 on Ubuntu 18 with version 6.10 of the  
kurento-media-server; This is on a server running apache 2.4.x  
(latest) etc. [With ISPConfig3 on port 8080 - which includes Let's  
Encrypt certbot ssl certificates with domains installed through  
ISPConfig3 - for what that's worth]!


I have a few general questions that I can't seem to find anwsers to  
anywhere, and a specific problem which I'll start with:


1) I have this working fine for text chat and interactive whiteboard,  
but; although I can see myself and hear myself when logged-in - and  
other users can do the same, we can't see eath other nor can we hear  
each other. I have studied the only manual I could find the old 2.0 OM  
manual - and that gives me an idea that I can administer and use the  
software.  So I guess that it is the browser (all of them) that isn't  
allowing shared audio and video because of self-signed ssl  
certificates. Is this correct? If so, will OM accpet LE (Let's Encrypt  
- dehydrated) certs?


2) Can I (and should I) update:

Kurento to 6.13 ?

tomcat3 - which I assume means the java servlet version 3 which runs  
tomcat7 to a servlet version of 4 which runs tomcat9 - and which I  
believe contains built-in sni or something that might help to secure  
ssl with the browsers?


3) I am trying to test this with apache2 stopped - does OM 5 with KMS  
run better served with just tomcat or will it serve more users, etc.  
faster with apache2 on top?  I have seen some info on proxying with  
apache2.4 but it isn't clear if that is the way to go, if apache2  
isn't really needed on the server. - any advice?


4) Lastly does anyone have it setup with LE (Let's Encrypt) in a  
working production environment so the major browsers don't throw  
insecure errors.


Thanks for any help / advice - I need to get this up and running with  
shared audio and video asap for school to work from home with  
coronavirus ...


Thanks Ed

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Testing page freezed

[Info 3bits]

Hi,

I'm using version 2.1 and getting problems in the test window.

You can test the audio and video but when the countdown shows 0s the screen is 
freezed (the level meter). Then the Start Conference button seems disabled 
and you can't enter in the room. The only way to exit is closing the browser.

If I skip this step then I can enter the room but audio doesn't works.

The Network Testing is Ok.

Any idea what can happens? 


Thanks in advance

 
Regards

-
Fernando
3bits