RE: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
+1 -Original Message- From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:38 PM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List +1 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Sean Thayne s...@skyseek.com wrote: I think it would be very beneficial for Flex developers if you also included some advanced Air/Flash techniques as well. Like Workers, Modules, and Native Extensions. Even just small section on each of these would be awesome. I think it's important so show these, because they really make Flex systems capable of doing anything and everything. Thanks! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.com wrote: On 1/23/2014 12:28 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Source? -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
He means there is no one working on it. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.comwrote: On 1/23/2014 12:28 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Source? -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
1. Skinning and styling. 2. Making a Flex application without a framework (ie i've seen via view stacks, states, etc). On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:53 AM, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: This is great news. Would love to buy a copy of the book. My comments: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder 2. Integration with BlazeDS. This was a lifesaver for me. If I recall correctly, Sencha charges a lot of money to use BlazeDS if you're a single developer, even though it's open source. So that's a big plus for Flex. 3. Mobile development. Bring desktop Flex users into their first mobile development. 4. Example of setting up at least one general-purpose MVC framework. 5. Advanced Spark datagrid features not covered in other books. The datagrid is one of the most popular components. Even the more obscure features would find an audience. 6. I struggled for a long time to figure out how to pass variables between custom components. - Original Message - From: Joseph Balderson n...@joeflash.ca To: users@flex.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:54:37 PM Subject: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List I'm starting this thread so people can list their wish list items for the upcoming Apache Flex book. The other thread is specifically for discussion on the status of the possible O'Reilly book. This book may not be an O'Reilly book (we'll see), but I'll definitely be writing an Apache Flex book of some sort for one of the tech major publishing houses this year. I'm modelling the book on the Programming Adobe Flex series of books by O'Reilly, so if you have the Flex 3 or 4 one, that's the template, with a few differences in topic coverage. As I mentioned in the other thread, there will be an emphasis on the Spark portion of the framework, and what's been updated since Adobe Flex 4.6, i.e. emphasis on the Apache side of Flex, rather than going over everything, considering the wealth of information already published on Flex 3 and 4. Although there will be a rudimentary overall coverage of things, so this won't be an upgrade book. There will be a few advanced nuggets tucked in here and there to keep it interesting, but for the most part it will be a beginner-to-intermediate book. There will be some coverage of IDEs (so pls tell me what your fav IDEs are) and plugin/desktop/mobile deployment strategies (i.e. Flash AIR), but we won't be getting into exotics like HaXe or HFCD or Alchemy, or advanced topics like Ant and Maven integration. Space will probably rule out getting into 3rd party MVC frameworks, which might be a blessing in disguise considering how many have been orphaned in the last few years (I'll leave that topic to blog posts). As far as FlexJS goes, it's still very early days, and things could change from now till publication, so there probably won't be much about it other than to talk about it in the introduction. When FlexJS is in Alpha, it will probably warrant its own micro-book. For future reference, wish list ideas on what I had to learn the hard way when learning Flex is more in line with topics to be found in this book. Very specific applications such as printing from flex, would be better suited to a cookbook-style book, which this isn't. But list them anyways at the bottom of your wish list separately, and I'll see what I can do with the space available. Thanks all, -- ___ Joseph Balderson, Flex Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
I'd plus one on workers and also add an introduction to Stage3D and AGAL programming. Cheers all, Simon On 23 January 2014 19:38, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Sean Thayne s...@skyseek.com wrote: I think it would be very beneficial for Flex developers if you also included some advanced Air/Flash techniques as well. Like Workers, Modules, and Native Extensions. Even just small section on each of these would be awesome. I think it's important so show these, because they really make Flex systems capable of doing anything and everything. Thanks! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.com wrote: On 1/23/2014 12:28 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Source? -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773 -- *flexmonkey.co.uk http://flexmonkey.co.uk | @FlexMonkey https://twitter.com/FlexMonkey | +44 (0) 7973 669691*
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
Hi all, As mobile and web app world expect really nice graphics and beautiful interfaces, i think the Apache Flex book should have a good section where the reader can have a complete guide about how to customize the Flex graphics interface, effects and so onstarting from the easiest way to the most complex, but performance saver, method. Thanks to everybody makes all of this possible. Angelo Sent from my El Jan 24, 2014, a las 9:39, simon gladman sglad...@gmail.com escribió: I'd plus one on workers and also add an introduction to Stage3D and AGAL programming. Cheers all, Simon On 23 January 2014 19:38, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Sean Thayne s...@skyseek.com wrote: I think it would be very beneficial for Flex developers if you also included some advanced Air/Flash techniques as well. Like Workers, Modules, and Native Extensions. Even just small section on each of these would be awesome. I think it's important so show these, because they really make Flex systems capable of doing anything and everything. Thanks! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.com wrote: On 1/23/2014 12:28 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Source? -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773 -- *flexmonkey.co.uk http://flexmonkey.co.uk | @FlexMonkey https://twitter.com/FlexMonkey | +44 (0) 7973 669691*
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
In case you have not heard on the other thread, the O'Reilly book idea is dead. But not the book itself. I'm in the process of contacting other publishers, and will keep everyone informed of the progress. Meanwhile, keep posting your suggestions of what I had to learn the hard way when I learned Flex to this thread. Again, this will be a beginner-to-intermediate book. More advanced topics will be covered in a following cookbook-style book, so I'm only looking for beginner-to-intermediate topic suggestions at this stage. Thanks all, ___ Joseph Balderson, Flex Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book Joseph Balderson wrote: I'm starting this thread so people can list their wish list items for the upcoming Apache Flex book. The other thread is specifically for discussion on the status of the possible O'Reilly book. This book may not be an O'Reilly book (we'll see), but I'll definitely be writing an Apache Flex book of some sort for one of the tech major publishing houses this year. I'm modelling the book on the Programming Adobe Flex series of books by O'Reilly, so if you have the Flex 3 or 4 one, that's the template, with a few differences in topic coverage. As I mentioned in the other thread, there will be an emphasis on the Spark portion of the framework, and what's been updated since Adobe Flex 4.6, i.e. emphasis on the Apache side of Flex, rather than going over everything, considering the wealth of information already published on Flex 3 and 4. Although there will be a rudimentary overall coverage of things, so this won't be an upgrade book. There will be a few advanced nuggets tucked in here and there to keep it interesting, but for the most part it will be a beginner-to-intermediate book. There will be some coverage of IDEs (so pls tell me what your fav IDEs are) and plugin/desktop/mobile deployment strategies (i.e. Flash AIR), but we won't be getting into exotics like HaXe or HFCD or Alchemy, or advanced topics like Ant and Maven integration. Space will probably rule out getting into 3rd party MVC frameworks, which might be a blessing in disguise considering how many have been orphaned in the last few years (I'll leave that topic to blog posts). As far as FlexJS goes, it's still very early days, and things could change from now till publication, so there probably won't be much about it other than to talk about it in the introduction. When FlexJS is in Alpha, it will probably warrant its own micro-book. For future reference, wish list ideas on what I had to learn the hard way when learning Flex is more in line with topics to be found in this book. Very specific applications such as printing from flex, would be better suited to a cookbook-style book, which this isn't. But list them anyways at the bottom of your wish list separately, and I'll see what I can do with the space available. Thanks all,
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
Theme development - ie: how to develop theme swcs and swfs and how to use them in a project. Its a great feature of Flex from a design point of view but there's not a lot of good source material on the subject (or at least - I had trouble finding good sources). Not long ago I worked on this intensely for a desktop application in AIR . If you're interested in including this subject in the book, and if I can help in any way - especially pointing out pitfalls like not including embedded font registry somewhere ;-) - please let me know. Cheers, Mick On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Joseph Balderson n...@joeflash.ca wrote: I'm starting this thread so people can list their wish list items for the upcoming Apache Flex book. The other thread is specifically for discussion on the status of the possible O'Reilly book. This book may not be an O'Reilly book (we'll see), but I'll definitely be writing an Apache Flex book of some sort for one of the tech major publishing houses this year. I'm modelling the book on the Programming Adobe Flex series of books by O'Reilly, so if you have the Flex 3 or 4 one, that's the template, with a few differences in topic coverage. As I mentioned in the other thread, there will be an emphasis on the Spark portion of the framework, and what's been updated since Adobe Flex 4.6, i.e. emphasis on the Apache side of Flex, rather than going over everything, considering the wealth of information already published on Flex 3 and 4. Although there will be a rudimentary overall coverage of things, so this won't be an upgrade book. There will be a few advanced nuggets tucked in here and there to keep it interesting, but for the most part it will be a beginner-to-intermediate book. There will be some coverage of IDEs (so pls tell me what your fav IDEs are) and plugin/desktop/mobile deployment strategies (i.e. Flash AIR), but we won't be getting into exotics like HaXe or HFCD or Alchemy, or advanced topics like Ant and Maven integration. Space will probably rule out getting into 3rd party MVC frameworks, which might be a blessing in disguise considering how many have been orphaned in the last few years (I'll leave that topic to blog posts). As far as FlexJS goes, it's still very early days, and things could change from now till publication, so there probably won't be much about it other than to talk about it in the introduction. When FlexJS is in Alpha, it will probably warrant its own micro-book. For future reference, wish list ideas on what I had to learn the hard way when learning Flex is more in line with topics to be found in this book. Very specific applications such as printing from flex, would be better suited to a cookbook-style book, which this isn't. But list them anyways at the bottom of your wish list separately, and I'll see what I can do with the space available. Thanks all, -- ___ Joseph Balderson, Flex Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
This is great news. Would love to buy a copy of the book. My comments: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder 2. Integration with BlazeDS. This was a lifesaver for me. If I recall correctly, Sencha charges a lot of money to use BlazeDS if you're a single developer, even though it's open source. So that's a big plus for Flex. 3. Mobile development. Bring desktop Flex users into their first mobile development. 4. Example of setting up at least one general-purpose MVC framework. 5. Advanced Spark datagrid features not covered in other books. The datagrid is one of the most popular components. Even the more obscure features would find an audience. 6. I struggled for a long time to figure out how to pass variables between custom components. - Original Message - From: Joseph Balderson n...@joeflash.ca To: users@flex.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:54:37 PM Subject: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List I'm starting this thread so people can list their wish list items for the upcoming Apache Flex book. The other thread is specifically for discussion on the status of the possible O'Reilly book. This book may not be an O'Reilly book (we'll see), but I'll definitely be writing an Apache Flex book of some sort for one of the tech major publishing houses this year. I'm modelling the book on the Programming Adobe Flex series of books by O'Reilly, so if you have the Flex 3 or 4 one, that's the template, with a few differences in topic coverage. As I mentioned in the other thread, there will be an emphasis on the Spark portion of the framework, and what's been updated since Adobe Flex 4.6, i.e. emphasis on the Apache side of Flex, rather than going over everything, considering the wealth of information already published on Flex 3 and 4. Although there will be a rudimentary overall coverage of things, so this won't be an upgrade book. There will be a few advanced nuggets tucked in here and there to keep it interesting, but for the most part it will be a beginner-to-intermediate book. There will be some coverage of IDEs (so pls tell me what your fav IDEs are) and plugin/desktop/mobile deployment strategies (i.e. Flash AIR), but we won't be getting into exotics like HaXe or HFCD or Alchemy, or advanced topics like Ant and Maven integration. Space will probably rule out getting into 3rd party MVC frameworks, which might be a blessing in disguise considering how many have been orphaned in the last few years (I'll leave that topic to blog posts). As far as FlexJS goes, it's still very early days, and things could change from now till publication, so there probably won't be much about it other than to talk about it in the introduction. When FlexJS is in Alpha, it will probably warrant its own micro-book. For future reference, wish list ideas on what I had to learn the hard way when learning Flex is more in line with topics to be found in this book. Very specific applications such as printing from flex, would be better suited to a cookbook-style book, which this isn't. But list them anyways at the bottom of your wish list separately, and I'll see what I can do with the space available. Thanks all, -- ___ Joseph Balderson, Flex Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Tom
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
On 1/23/2014 12:28 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Source? -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
I think it would be very beneficial for Flex developers if you also included some advanced Air/Flash techniques as well. Like Workers, Modules, and Native Extensions. Even just small section on each of these would be awesome. I think it's important so show these, because they really make Flex systems capable of doing anything and everything. Thanks! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.comwrote: On 1/23/2014 12:28 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Source? -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773
Re: Apache Flex Book Topic Wish List
+1 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Sean Thayne s...@skyseek.com wrote: I think it would be very beneficial for Flex developers if you also included some advanced Air/Flash techniques as well. Like Workers, Modules, and Native Extensions. Even just small section on each of these would be awesome. I think it's important so show these, because they really make Flex systems capable of doing anything and everything. Thanks! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.com wrote: On 1/23/2014 12:28 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote: On 23/01/2014 16:53, modjkl...@comcast.net wrote: 1. Favorite IDE=FlashBuilder Which is dead :-) Source? -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773