Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

2011-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 30/07/2011 04:07, Cliff Scott a écrit :
 At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing 
 unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for
 unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just
 changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe
 the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the
 get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct
 unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT
 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org. 

Please read more carefully the text of the footer. It does not tell you
the address where to send a message to unsubscribe but the address where
to write to get the instructions how to unsubscribe. I guess this
indirect procedure is useful because you need to be informed that you
will have to answer to the confirmation request.

Best regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering? SOLVED

2011-07-30 Thread planas
Hi

On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 19:25 -0700, JeepNut wrote: 

 Because I really like closure, thought I would post the resolution to the
 problem of the file I lost.
 Admittedly a fairly unsophisticated user of the office suite, I overlooked a
 very easy answer to the problem of recovering the file that crashed and
 ended up being completely empty
 
 Find the backup copy.
 
 I didn't even realize one existed!  But after continuing to review posts in
 this excellent forum and getting a few ideas here and there about how to
 stabilize my also-frequently-crashing office suite, I became aware of the
 option in the Tools / Options menu that allows for a backup copy to be
 saved.  Once I found the Paths option and located the hidden subfolders
 where backups and various other LibreOffice system files are saved, I
 discovered (to my great joy!) the most recent backed up copy of that trashed
 file!
 
 I thank all the folks that attempted to recover the document and offered
 suggestions.
 But in this case, the simplest answer of all seems to have been just
 overlooked by everyone.
 It's a complex set of tools and software, so it's not surprising that there
 is a lot to learn if one wants to become a proficient user.  The experience
 and subsequent follow-up has taught me a lot.
 
 I just really appreciate the hard work and dedication of the entire team of
 folks who have made this open source solution even POSSIBLE and I thank you
 all for your continued efforts at improving it.
 
 Overall satisfactory and very beneficial results have been achieved.
 
 
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Thanks for the comments, sometimes one needs to look for the simplest
answer first.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Turning Off Numbering/Outlining/Bullets

2011-07-30 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Hal,

Hal Vaughan wrote (30-07-11 07:32)

Okay, I think it's cool that LO, like so many editors now, will jump
into an outline or bullet mode automatically, but what if you don't
want that?


 - Ctrl-Z immediately after the unwanted change
 - Tools  Autocorrect options  tab Options  Apply numbering/symbol

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[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

2011-07-30 Thread Cliff Scott
At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing 
unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for
unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just
changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe
the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the
get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct
unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT
users+h...@global.libreoffice.org. 

Is there a way to get whomever is in charge of the mail list program put the
correct information in the footer? It would save a lot of hassle for people.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO3.3.1-Older OO Feature still in LO - How to disable pop-up Menus?

2011-07-30 Thread Mahesh T Pai
JeepNut jeep...@zoho.com writes:

  emarkay wrote:
 
 Ya' know the Table one that appears sometimes when you click something
 in a table.
 
 This also happens with other operations; ...snipped if I wanted this
 menu, I'd already have it there...snipped
 

  Bump on this.  Exactly what I was looking for an answer to.
  Doesn't anyone know how to keep those pop-outs from popping?




I simply drag the pop ups to a menu bar, where they become a part of
the menu. They never pop up again. 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 I think it's more a case of working on several fronts within TDF.
 1.   joining the Steering-Discuss mailing list and promoting the cause there.

Tom's right. I can definitely recommend taking time out to join the
SC's twice-weekly call conferences and raising the issue there. At all
the confcalls I've attended, there has almost never been a member of
the user community there to raise questions, yet that was one of the
central things that the confcalls were designed to cater to. The SC
people are very approachable and eager to listen to people, so you
will find interested ears. You can participate in the calls via phone
or Skype (Skype has always worked for me). Details are here:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Dial-in_Details

Like you guys, I'm very keen to see Base well-maintained. There's a
confcall today, Saturday, July 30, and I'll raise the question. If
others do the same, it will add weight to the issue...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

2011-07-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi,

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote:
 At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing 
 unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for
 unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just
 changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe
 the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the
 get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct
 unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT
 users+h...@global.libreoffice.org.

 Is there a way to get whomever is in charge of the mail list program put the
 correct information in the footer? It would save a lot of hassle for people.

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You're perfectly right, and I've forwarded a message to one of the ML admins.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering? SOLVED

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
Congrats at fixing it and thanks for posting the right answer back into this 
thread.  There are a lot of people working hard on LibreOffice and they seldom 
get much thanks so it's great to hear it.
Thanks and congrats from
Tom :)





From: planas jsloz...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 8:04:33
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering? SOLVED

Hi

On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 19:25 -0700, JeepNut wrote: 

 Because I really like closure, thought I would post the resolution 

snip /

 Find the backup copy.
 
 I didn't even realize one existed!  But after continuing to review posts in
 this excellent forum and getting a few ideas here and there about how to
 stabilize my also-frequently-crashing office suite, I became aware of the
 option in the Tools / Options menu that allows for a backup copy to be
 saved.  Once I found the Paths option and located the hidden sub-folders
 where backups and various other LibreOffice system files are saved, I
 discovered (to my great joy!) the most recent backed up copy of that trashed
 file!
 
 I thank all the folks that attempted to recover the document and offered
 suggestions.

snip /

 I just really appreciate the hard work and dedication of the entire team of
 folks who have made this open source solution even POSSIBLE and I thank you
 all for your continued efforts at improving it.
 

snip /

 View this message in context: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/help-recovering-tp3191906p3211104.html
 Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
 

Thanks for the comments, sometimes one needs to look for the simplest
answer first.

Jay Lozier
jsloz...@gmail.com
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-07-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi,

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Are you suggesting that if you log out of or shut down Windows when you have
 some component part of Microsoft Office 2010 open then it will just abort
 and complain next time it is opened?  Are you joking?  Even if you have an
 unsaved document open, Word (or whatever) - being closed by Windows - will
 challenge you to save or discard your changes.  You may have a good reason
 to choose your operating system and application software, but made-up
 stories about others is not.

It will not *abort*, but the next time Word, for instance, opens you
will definitely be prompted to check whether you want to recover the
last doc(s) you were working on, even if you carefully saved the
doc(s) before ending your last session. Try it and see. Microsoft
Office and LibreOffice function fairly similarly from this viewpoint,
and it does help to prevent data loss when crashes or accidents
happen.

BTW, I am *not* getting into a Word versus Writer stand-off here... :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Both things happen.  Windows sometimes makes a bit of a fuss about not shutting 
down when asked to.  It prefers to find excuses and panicks about open 
documents.  If you did have an open document then it will often tend to have a 
problem and want you to recover it even if you dealt with those error pop-ups 
neatly during shut-down.  Neither thing always happens but one or the other or 
both do happen fairly often.  


I once shut-down halfway through writing something in a GnuLinux, got a brief 
warning that i ignored and it quickly timed out and continued with the 
shut-down.  Then i installed a completely different gnulinux over the top of 
my 
OS and opened the  text-editor to find it reopened the unsaved text-file with 
only a few words missing.  Sadly it was a very unimportant note and i've not 
repeated the experiment because it's too risky to do stuff like that.  It 
shouldn't work so it was quite a surprise.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 10:41:33
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
need recovery

Hi,

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Are you suggesting that if you log out of or shut down Windows when you have
 some component part of Microsoft Office 2010 open then it will just abort
 and complain next time it is opened?  Are you joking?  Even if you have an
 unsaved document open, Word (or whatever) - being closed by Windows - will
 challenge you to save or discard your changes.  You may have a good reason
 to choose your operating system and application software, but made-up
 stories about others is not.

It will not *abort*, but the next time Word, for instance, opens you
will definitely be prompted to check whether you want to recover the
last doc(s) you were working on, even if you carefully saved the
doc(s) before ending your last session. Try it and see. Microsoft
Office and LibreOffice function fairly similarly from this viewpoint,
and it does help to prevent data loss when crashes or accidents
happen.

BTW, I am *not* getting into a Word versus Writer stand-off here... :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to add watermark in a presentation?

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I don't know.  There is some documentation in the Getting Started Guide
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
But the full Impress Guide is still being worked on.  

Are you looking for something like a master slide so that the watermark is 
shown 
on all pages?  Have you explored styles and templates?
Regards from
Tom :)





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Subject: [libreoffice-users] how to add watermark in a presentation?

is there any way to add a watermark to the slides of a presentation from
menu directly?i could not find anything.
i mean the ability to select something from the menu to add a watermark with
custom text and be in something like 80% transparent black by default or
similar.
is it possible?
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[libreoffice-users] Shrinking buttons

2011-07-30 Thread bill

On 07/28/2011 01:23 PM, planas wrote:
Please file a bug, I do not what the issue is. I have never seen any 
behavior like this myself.




If you could give more details may be (very may be) someone monitoring 
the list may know what is happening.


Here's more detail. I did quite a bit of experimentation on this so please 
bear with me. 

I developed the spreadsheet on a large laptop with a very high res display. 
When I run the spreadsheet on a low res netbook (1024x600) at 100% scaling 
factor everything starts out fine, but as the spreadsheet is used, the 
buttons I have on the 21 sheets start getting smaller and smaller vertically 
(Height) until some are so small you can't hit them. Width stays as 
originally intended. I have no code that attempts to manipulate the buttons. 

I created the buttons (3 of them) on one sheet and then copied them to the 
other 20 sheets on my development laptop. Even stranger is the fact that as 
these buttons are arranged one above the other vertically, within 1 large 
merged cell, its always the bottom button that shrinks to near invisibility. 
The middle button also shrinks but not as much, and the top button shrinks 
even less. Once the bottom button gets to its minimum size, (.02cm) 
shrinking seems to cease. 

If the spreadsheet is saved and reopened, the buttons are still shrunken. 
Something is rewriting the height of the buttons and a save keeps the 
shrunken height. The spreadsheet becomes unusable until I blow the buttons 
away and recreate them as that's easier than fixing them individually. After 
12 hours of continuous use, with periodic saves, the bottom button on every 
one of the 21 sheets is invisible on a netbook. If I use the original 
undamaged spreadsheet on my laptop or a higher res desktop, this does not 
occur. 

This happens across 21 sheets and many of those sheets never get used as its 
slow season here and we only use about 5 sheets a day that represent the 
dining room tables for restaurant guests. I suspect its because I copied the 
3 buttons from one sheet to the other 20 that they are somehow tied together 
and whatever is shrinking one shrinks them all. Having said that, a contra 
indication is that not all buttons shrink to the same size. There appears to 
be some randomness to the process that gets one button down to .02cm and the 
same button on another sheet down to only .06cm. 

Some other anomalies. 

In the same .ods file, I have a sheet that provides a composite view of the 
other 21 sheets to a limited extent. I have 21 buttons on that sheet 
arranged vertically that when hit bring up that particular sheet (dining 
room tables order). The last 7 buttons, shrink in height so that the bottom 
button is the smallest (but not completely invisible) and each above it is 
just a bit greater in height until we hit the 8th button from the bottom 
which is full height. 

These last 7 buttons represent dining room tables we're not using. We never 
hit those sheets and yet something is shrinking the last 7 buttons on my 
overview sheet. The difference in height between button 21 to button 20, 
between button 20 and button 19, ... towards the full size button is a 
constant. Its as though some loop is subtracting a constant height from the 
bottom 7 buttons. 

On my development machine, the above does not occur. It has something to do 
with the low res on the netbook. However, even on my mighty development 
laptop, if I delete any one of the 21 sheets, I loose every button on every 
remaining sheet. They all disappear. If I move a sheet from one position to 
another position, everything is OK till I save and reacquire the 
spreadsheet. At that point the entire spreadsheet is trashed as it won't 
open with some bogus internal password error. 

The unbroken spreadsheet is 254KB. I can upload it and provide the passwords 
used in it via a private email as I don't want the whole world knowing my 
business. 

Its occurred on Fedora 14 as Open Office  15 as Libre Office. We don't use 
Windows at all. 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Turning Off Numbering/Outlining/Bullets

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think that when you get a new number (or bullet) after hitting the enter key 
you just press the back-space key (usually just above enter)?  I'm not sure tho
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 6:32:55
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Turning Off Numbering/Outlining/Bullets

Okay, I think it's cool that LO, like so many editors now, will jump into an 
outline or bullet mode automatically, but what if you don't want that?

I'm taking a written test and I want to number the items like this:

1) Question one text: (And here is the answer)

2) Question two text: (And here is answer 2)

But with the automated bullets and lists, there is no way I can do that and hit 
RETURN at the end of a paragraph without it going into outline mode.

I looked this up in Help and basically it looks like I turn it off AFTER I type 
what I need to.

Is there any way to turn off this mode in a  document?  This is totally absurd 
if you don't want it!




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

2011-07-30 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr on Sat, 30
Jul 2011 08:54:08 +0200

 Le 30/07/2011 04:07, Cliff Scott a écrit :
  At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing 
  unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for
  unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just
  changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe
  the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the
  get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct
  unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT
  users+h...@global.libreoffice.org. 
 
 Please read more carefully the text of the footer. It does not tell you
 the address where to send a message to unsubscribe but the address where
 to write to get the instructions how to unsubscribe. I guess this
 indirect procedure is useful because you need to be informed that you
 will have to answer to the confirmation request.

Thank you. That was also pointed out to me by someone else. I took it to mean
the actual address which it is not. Possibly it could be clarified by putting
it similarly to this: For unsubscribe instructions email to:
users+h...@global.libreoffice.org or something to that effect. From all the
hassle I've seen others go through in the past I'm not the only one to
misinterpret the present wording.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
I'm sure the documentation team would appreciate your input on building up a 
guide for Base.  It's a major challenge tho!
Regards from
Tom :)




From: planas jsloz...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 2:30:00
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

Hi

On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 17:55 -0700, ponsiarceds wrote: 

 .
 tomcloyd wrote:
  
  , On 07/28/2011 12:53 AM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
  
  Ug. This is getting ugly really fast. I'm really not on home ground  
  here at all.
  
 
 FWIW, here is a relatively painless way to install an older JRE along side
 the default Ubuntu one.
 ( I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 64bit )
 
 It definitely sped up my Base table browsing, but then I don't have any
 binaries embedded in my tables. It has the bonus of not messing with the
 existing JRE
 
 Overview:
 
 1. Download the JRE archive (approx. 20 mb)
 2. Extract in /tmp
 3. as root, copy the extracted directory to /usr/lib/jvm
 4. set this JRE as the JRE of choice in LO (ToolsOptionsJava)
 5. Exit LO  restart
 
 Instructions:
 
 1.Download jdk-6u21-linux-i586.bin (for i386) or jdk-6u21-linux-x64.bin for
 x86_64 from 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html#jdk-6u21-b07-oth-JPR
R
 JRE archive at ORACLE . Save to /tmp
 2.run it using: sh jdk-6u21-linux-i586.bin . The JRE is now extracted to
 /tmp/jre1.6.0_21/
 3. copy to /usr/lib/jvm sudo cp -a jre1.6.0_21/ /usr/lib/jvm
 4. Exit  restart office.  In ToolsOptionsJava, choose 1.6.0_21. Exit 
 restart office
 5. Load you Base file  compare the speed.
 
 If you want to remove it simply set the JRE back to the old one in 
 ToolsOptionsJava  sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_21/
 
 
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Thank you for the step by step instructions, I am sure many will find
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New User: Three Questions

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I get the impression that the different distros are not that hugely different 
under the bonnet even the ones that are in different families (ie Slackware 
family vs Debian family).  Agreed that it's worth being aware that there might 
be differences tho.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 0:53:45
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: New User: Three Questions

On 07/28/2011 05:13 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 07/27/2011 06:46 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, NoOp wrote:
 
 I only referred to that as it shows making a ~/.fonts folder etc. Please
 create and put the BakerSignet font in there  see if LO picks it up.
 
 Not really, as I don't know what the astrisk is in '1152a___.*' - I know
 of no fonts that are listed as .* Nor are there any fonts that use a
 .atm extension. .atm is used for the Adobe Type Manager font
 catalog/file  ATM fonts are generally Type 1 fonts with an .pfb, .afm
 and .pfm (and possibly .pfa) files. So I'm still confused.
 
The asterisk means multiple suffixes. In this case, 1152a___.afm,
 1152a___.inf, 1152a___.pfb, and 1152a___.pfm. I mistyped afm as atm.
 
 Got it.
 
 
Well, I guess LO is different from other apps in that it cannot see fonts
 in /usr/share/fonts, but does in ~/.fonts. Very strange. Regardless, I will
 make softlinks in ~/.fonts to the directories in /usr/share/fonts.
 ...
 
 Might be an issue with the slackware build - you might consider filing a
 bug report.
 
 It gets even more interesting; I was experimenting with some old Adobe
 FrameMaker .pfb files  used FontForge to convert a .pdb to the
 respective .pfa  .afm files. Placed those in ~/.fonts and LO 3.3.3 and
 OOo 3.2.1 pick up the font just fine. However, LO 3.4.2 rc2
 (pre-release) and OOo-Dev 3.4.0 do not. I'll file a bug on those if I
 get time in the next few days.

Even stranger... I created .afm files for 400 postscript fonts (licenced
of course) and had those in ~/.fonts (the .pfb and .afm files) and LO
3.3..x picked them up fine, but LO 3.4.x did not. So I moved them to
/usr/share/fonts/PSFONTS, updated the fc-cache, and now LO 3.4 is
picking them up as well. Duplicated on a different machine w/o issue, so
I reckon that I'll pass on filing the bug. Note that my system is Ubuntu
(debian based) and not slackware, so this info may not be of use to Rich
and his system.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I agree that moving the : does make it much clearer.  I think there must have 
been some sort of morphic field as i had just posted that in the moderators 
list 
at the same time you were posting the idea in here.
Regards from
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From: Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 13:16:58
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

** Reply to message from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr on Sat, 30
Jul 2011 08:54:08 +0200

 Le 30/07/2011 04:07, Cliff Scott a écrit :
  At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing 
  unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for
  unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just
  changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe
  the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the
  get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct
  unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT
  users+h...@global.libreoffice.org. 
 
 Please read more carefully the text of the footer. It does not tell you
 the address where to send a message to unsubscribe but the address where
 to write to get the instructions how to unsubscribe. I guess this
 indirect procedure is useful because you need to be informed that you
 will have to answer to the confirmation request.

Thank you. That was also pointed out to me by someone else. I took it to mean
the actual address which it is not. Possibly it could be clarified by putting
it similarly to this: For unsubscribe instructions email to:
users+h...@global.libreoffice.org or something to that effect. From all the
hassle I've seen others go through in the past I'm not the only one to
misinterpret the present wording.

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[libreoffice-users] help

2011-07-30 Thread Cliff Scott


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Re: [libreoffice-users] help

2011-07-30 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi Cliff, 

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:35:37 -0500
Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net wrote:

help with what? 
Can you be a bit more verbose please? 

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO3.3.1-Older OO Feature still in LO - How to disable pop-up Menus?

2011-07-30 Thread David B Teague sr

On 7/29/2011 11:33 PM, Mahesh T Pai wrote:

JeepNutjeep...@zoho.com  writes:

emarkay wrote:

Ya' know the Table one that appears sometimes when you click something
in a table.

This also happens with other operations; ...snipped  if I wanted this
menu, I'd already have it there...snipped

Bump on this.  Exactly what I was looking for an answer to.
Doesn't anyone know how to keep those pop-outs from popping?

I simply drag the pop ups to a menu bar, where they become a part of
the menu. They never pop up again.

HTH.

I have never found these pop up menus to be useful. But that's just me.

Your solution works, but it eats up screen real estate. Does anyone have 
a way to stop the menus from popping up without losing screen space?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] spellcheck in calc

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi ?
Sorry but i have completely lost track.  Have you managed to solve this problem 
yet?
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jp
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 28 July, 2011 3:38:08
Subject: [libreoffice-users] spellcheck in calc

Good morning
I have noted this in the past already several times, but since this is
not something I use frequently just ignored it.

I am trying to spellcheck in Calc.
Set the language to German (English seems to (?) work).
Start spelling.
Speller encounters unknown term - instruct to ignore once
For reasons unknown it hangs up here.
Where the button ignore once was, now Resume is displayed.
Click Resume - unknown term - instruct to ignore once - Resume


Once this cycle starts the speller NEVER gets out of that cell again.
And if this happens say in the third cell of a 5,000-cell sheet ---
it renders the spell checker completely useless.

Is there a way of telling the spell checker it has more work to do?


*** Also - sorry for the confusion - but, ...
the function ignore all seems not to be working.
Since I constantly get those funny viscious cycles mentioned above I am
not really sure about Calc,
but in Writer this is a constant + persistant behavior.
Regarding THIS behavior, I have to admit I was very much annoyed by it
in Wordperfect, Word and other software too.

I wish there were a magic spell that could fix these very
counterproductive ticks.

Thank you in advance
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO3.3.1-Older OO Feature still in LO - How to disable pop-up Menus?

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
In MS Office you can drag them to be the 2nd half of an existing toolbar.  By 
half i mean a variable amount down to perhaps just a thumbs width.
Regards from
Tom :)

PS
Q.  Is your glass half full or half empty?

Zaphod.  Hey!!! That's not my glass!  Mine was much larger!  And it was 
full.





From: David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 16:54:23
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO3.3.1-Older OO Feature still in LO - 
How to disable pop-up Menus?

On 7/29/2011 11:33 PM, Mahesh T Pai wrote:
 JeepNutjeep...@zoho.com  writes:

 emarkay wrote:
 Ya' know the Table one that appears sometimes when you click something
 in a table.

 This also happens with other operations; ...snipped  if I wanted this
 menu, I'd already have it there...snipped
 Bump on this.  Exactly what I was looking for an answer to.
 Doesn't anyone know how to keep those pop-outs from popping?

 I simply drag the pop ups to a menu bar, where they become a part of
 the menu. They never pop up again.

 HTH.
I have never found these pop up menus to be useful. But that's just me.

Your solution works, but it eats up screen real estate. Does anyone have 
a way to stop the menus from popping up without losing screen space?

--David

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Re: [libreoffice-users] help

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ctrl Z a few times to undo?
Reboot?
Ulp.
Regards from
Tom :)






From: Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 15:35:37
Subject: [libreoffice-users] help



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO3.3.1-Older OO Feature still in LO - How to disable pop-up Menus?

2011-07-30 Thread toki

On 07/30/2011 03:54 PM, David B Teague sr wrote:

Your solution works, but it eats up screen real estate. Does anyone have
a way to stop the menus from popping up without losing screen space?


Drag the offending menu to the middle of the page.
Then select View Toolbars;
Uncheck the offending menu;

You may have to repeat this three or four times, before LibO gets the 
idea that you really don't want those menus to be displayed.


Sometimes you have to guess as the name of the menu. (I have more than 
fifty menus for extension that are of the pattern Add On ##, where 
## is a number between 1 and 50. Personally, I think that extensions 
whose menu is of that pattern, should be pulled from distribution until 
the developer learns how to create extensions that don't require users 
to write their own documentation, to determine which menu goes with 
which functionality they were looking for.)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Don C. Myers
Magnificent!!! Thank you, ponsiarceds! I followed your 
instructions for having an older version of Java along side the present 
one. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 with the LibreOffice version of 3.4.1. Now 
base works really fast like it always did. Then only thing I did 
differently was I used the 1.6.0_22 version since I knew it worked well.


Thank you again so much!

On 07/29/2011 08:55 PM, ponsiarceds wrote:

sudo cp -a jre1.6.0_21/ /usr/lib/jvm


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Cloyd
I may have seen this too late to join in, but I'll make the next one for 
sure. Thanks very much for the tip.


I agree with Tom, too, in theory. The problem is that my resource 
account is already overdrawn. I have nothing left with which to make a 
heavy investment, anywhere. If it's just a matter of joining a call, 
well, I can do that, and I'll have no problem with articulating my 
concerns re: Base.


T.
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On 07/30/2011 03:25 AM, David Nelson wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  wrote:

I think it's more a case of working on several fronts within TDF.
1.   joining the Steering-Discuss mailing list and promoting the cause there.

Tom's right. I can definitely recommend taking time out to join the
SC's twice-weekly call conferences and raising the issue there. At all
the confcalls I've attended, there has almost never been a member of
the user community there to raise questions, yet that was one of the
central things that the confcalls were designed to cater to. The SC
people are very approachable and eager to listen to people, so you
will find interested ears. You can participate in the calls via phone
or Skype (Skype has always worked for me). Details are here:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Dial-in_Details

Like you guys, I'm very keen to see Base well-maintained. There's a
confcall today, Saturday, July 30, and I'll raise the question. If
others do the same, it will add weight to the issue...




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Re: [libreoffice-users] help

2011-07-30 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com on
Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:47:41 +0200

 Hi Cliff, 
 
 On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:35:37 -0500
 Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net wrote:
 
 help with what? 
 Can you be a bit more verbose please? 
 
 Sigrid

Sigrid,

Thanks for asking. That email was not supposed to go to this list. I was just
seeing what the Unsubscribe email address in the message footers would do and
found that the format of the email address is not read correctly by my email
client so it takes the +help off the address and puts it into the subject. I
didn't catch that until it went. 

Cliff

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

2011-07-30 Thread Libre User

At 06:16 AM 7/30/2011, you wrote:
** Reply to message from Jean-Baptiste Faure 
jbf.fa...@orange.fr on Sat, 30 Jul 2011 
08:54:08 +0200  Le 30/07/2011 04:07, Cliff 
Scott a écrit :   At the risk of starting 
another round of arguments regarding subscribing 
   unsubscribing I would like to point out 
that the information for   unsubscribing in 
the footer of messages on this list is 
incorrect. I just   changed my email address 
so I had to unsubscribe the old one and 
subscribe   the new one. It all went without a 
hitch because I checked first at the   
get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and 
found out that the correct   unsubscribe 
address is 
users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, 
NOT   users+h...@global.libreoffice.org.   
Please read more carefully the text of the 
footer. It does not tell you  the address where 
to send a message to unsubscribe but the address 
where  to write to get the instructions how to 
unsubscribe. I guess this  indirect procedure 
is useful because you need to be informed that 
you  will have to answer to the confirmation 
request. Thank you. That was also pointed out to 
me by someone else. I took it to mean the actual 
address which it is not. Possibly it could be 
clarified by putting it similarly to this: For 
unsubscribe instructions email to: 
users+h...@global.libreoffice.org or something 
to that effect. From all the hassle I've seen 
others go through in the past I'm not the only 
one to misinterpret the present wording


I think this problem illustrates the same mindset 
that a lot us of find bothersome in most MS 
products.  That is the inability of Developers to 
put themselves in the place of Users.


The developer knows the line means: Here is how 
you obtain the instructions on how to unsubscribe.
The less sophisticated user, seeing the same line 
reads it as: Here are your instruction on how to unsubscribe.


Instead of the developers insisting that the 
information is correct and not changing it, they 
should realize that the less sophisticated users 
ARE interpreting it erroneously and that they 
need to change the wording to reflect how users are actually seeing it.


Jerry

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.4.2 plus Native MySQL connection

2011-07-30 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 29/07/11 11:10, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit :

Hi Heinrich,


 My favourite connector to my MySQL-DB is the native connector. I hoped
 that it
 might work under 3.4.2, but it seems that this might not be the case -
 would be
 a pity. 

That's because according to MySQL, it is recommended to recompile the
library for the libmysql Connector, each time a version change is made
to the app on which the integrated library is supposed to run.

AFAIK, the connector extension is not built by anyone from the dev group
for LibreOffice, it is entirely left up to the distros to do this as
part of their non-bundled extensions package offer.

I have built a recent version of the mysql connector from master on Mac,
but unfortunately it is OS specific, i.e. it won't work on other OSes.
You can see this from the OOo extensions site where there is a download
for 32 and 64 bit Linux, Mac OSX and Windows.

You need to be able to find someone who builds LibreOffice on Linux, and
add the build switch with the connector so that it gets compiled and an
up to date version is released.


If I had the time, I'd set this up, but am rather busy and short of disk
space on my Linux box at the moment.

Alex




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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to add watermark in a presentation?

2011-07-30 Thread soumalya ray
yeah,i have tried master slide.but that's not what i am talking about.i am
talking about an option under,say insert,named,say watermark.on clicking
it,a pop-up will open with an option of text/image entry  transparency
option.the text entered into the box will become the watermark for the
slide.something like that.

On 30 July 2011 17:42, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 I don't know.  There is some documentation in the Getting Started Guide
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
 But the full Impress Guide is still being worked on.

 Are you looking for something like a master slide so that the watermark is
 shown
 on all pages?  Have you explored styles and templates?
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: soumalya ray drsouma...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 6:35:29
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] how to add watermark in a presentation?

 is there any way to add a watermark to the slides of a presentation from
 menu directly?i could not find anything.
 i mean the ability to select something from the menu to add a watermark
 with
 custom text and be in something like 80% transparent black by default or
 similar.
 is it possible?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Don C. Myers
One thing to be careful of. You can use either the jre or the jdk. The 
jdk is basically for developers and not needed by most folks. Make sure 
when you follow the instructions below you use one or the other.


On 07/29/2011 08:55 PM, ponsiarceds wrote:

.
tomcloyd wrote:

, On 07/28/2011 12:53 AM, Tom Cloyd wrote:

Ug. This is getting ugly really fast. I'm really not on home ground
here at all.


FWIW, here is a relatively painless way to install an older JRE along side
the default Ubuntu one.
( I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 64bit )

It definitely sped up my Base table browsing, but then I don't have any
binaries embedded in my tables. It has the bonus of not messing with the
existing JRE

Overview:

1. Download the JRE archive (approx. 20 mb)
2. Extract in /tmp
3. as root, copy the extracted directory to /usr/lib/jvm
4. set this JRE as the JRE of choice in LO (ToolsOptionsJava)
5. Exit LO  restart

Instructions:

1.Download jdk-6u21-linux-i586.bin (for i386) or jdk-6u21-linux-x64.bin for
x86_64 from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html#jdk-6u21-b07-oth-JPR
JRE archive at ORACLE . Save to /tmp
2.run it using: sh jdk-6u21-linux-i586.bin . The JRE is now extracted to
/tmp/jre1.6.0_21/
3. copy to /usr/lib/jvm sudo cp -a jre1.6.0_21/ /usr/lib/jvm
4. Exit  restart office.  In ToolsOptionsJava, choose 1.6.0_21. Exit
restart office
5. Load you Base file  compare the speed.

If you want to remove it simply set the JRE back to the old one in
ToolsOptionsJava  sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_21/


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is some discussion about this on the moderators list
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Instructions-on-how-to-unsubscribe-td3016239.html#a3211580


Feel free to add suggestions and/or indicate which options you would prefer to 
see.  TDF is about finding answers and making progress rather than  getting 
bogged down in entrenched opinions.  People do work hard and develop loyalties 
in the teams but hopefully are often open to new developments.
Regards from
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From: Libre User libreu...@earthlink.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 19:10:05
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer

At 06:16 AM 7/30/2011, you wrote:
 ** Reply to message from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr on Sat, 30 
Jul 2011 08:54:08 +0200  Le 30/07/2011 04:07, Cliff Scott a écrit :   At 
the 
risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing
unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for   
unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just   
changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe   
the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the   
get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct  
 
unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT   
users+h...@global.libreoffice.org.   Please read more carefully the text of 
the footer. It does not tell you  the address where to send a message to 
unsubscribe but the address where  to write to get the instructions how to 
unsubscribe. I guess this  indirect procedure is useful because you need to 
be 
informed that you  will have to answer to the confirmation request. Thank 
you. 
That was also pointed out to me by someone else. I took it to mean the actual 
address which it is not. Possibly it could be clarified by putting it 
similarly 
to this: For unsubscribe instructions email to: 
users+h...@global.libreoffice.org or something to that effect. From all the 
hassle I've seen others go through in the past I'm not the only one to 
misinterpret the present wording

I think this problem illustrates the same mindset that a lot us of find 
bothersome in most MS products.  That is the inability of Developers to put 
themselves in the place of Users.

The developer knows the line means: Here is how you obtain the instructions on 
how to unsubscribe.
The less sophisticated user, seeing the same line reads it as: Here are your 
instruction on how to unsubscribe.

Instead of the developers insisting that the information is correct and not 
changing it, they should realize that the less sophisticated users ARE 
interpreting it erroneously and that they need to change the wording to reflect 
how users are actually seeing it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Turning Off Numbering/Outlining/Bullets

2011-07-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
That undoes or stops the numbering.  It doesn't stop it from happening every 
time I type something like:

1) Question 1
2) Question 2

and so on.


Hal

On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 I think that when you get a new number (or bullet) after hitting the enter 
 key 
 you just press the back-space key (usually just above enter)?  I'm not sure 
 tho
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 6:32:55
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Turning Off Numbering/Outlining/Bullets
 
 Okay, I think it's cool that LO, like so many editors now, will jump into an 
 outline or bullet mode automatically, but what if you don't want that?
 
 I'm taking a written test and I want to number the items like this:
 
 1) Question one text: (And here is the answer)
 
 2) Question two text: (And here is answer 2)
 
 But with the automated bullets and lists, there is no way I can do that and 
 hit 
 RETURN at the end of a paragraph without it going into outline mode.
 
 I looked this up in Help and basically it looks like I turn it off AFTER I 
 type 
 what I need to.
 
 Is there any way to turn off this mode in a  document?  This is totally 
 absurd 
 if you don't want it!
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Turning Off Numbering/Outlining/Bullets

2011-07-30 Thread Hal Vaughan

On Jul 30, 2011, at 4:21 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

 Hi Hal,
 
 Hal Vaughan wrote (30-07-11 07:32)
 Okay, I think it's cool that LO, like so many editors now, will jump
 into an outline or bullet mode automatically, but what if you don't
 want that?
 
 - Ctrl-Z immediately after the unwanted change
 - Tools  Autocorrect options  tab Options  Apply numbering/symbol

I never thought it'd be in Autocorrect -- found it and fixed it.

Thank you -- and I like that I can turn it on and off so easily.  I kind of 
wish there were a way to make that preference stay with the document, though -- 
that way I could specify that on some documents and levee the rest the other 
way.


That fixes it -- help is appreciated!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Le 29/07/2011 10:41, Andreas Säger a écrit :


As a matter of fact you can disable/remove Java, hit F4 ... connect,
query, edit and dump.
If I would convert our Java databases and remove Java from our systems
nobody would notice the change.


Could you elaborate, please?

If I remove Java, can I open the Base module and create a query in 
design mode? I happen to think I can't but I might be mistaken.


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[libreoffice-users] Code snippet

2011-07-30 Thread Bill Gradwohl
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I've searched and can't figure out how to specify the height of a button
at execution time via a basic macro.

If Sheet1 contains a button name OK, how would I specify a button
height of 0.5cm?

The only examples I can find are for buttons on forms, not on a sheet
itself.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-07-30 Thread planas
Hi,

On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 12:34 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: 

 Hi :)
 Both things happen.  Windows sometimes makes a bit of a fuss about not 
 shutting 
 down when asked to.  It prefers to find excuses and panicks about open 
 documents.  If you did have an open document then it will often tend to have 
 a 
 problem and want you to recover it even if you dealt with those error 
 pop-ups 
 neatly during shut-down.  Neither thing always happens but one or the other 
 or 
 both do happen fairly often.  
 
 
 I once shut-down halfway through writing something in a GnuLinux, got a 
 brief 
 warning that i ignored and it quickly timed out and continued with the 
 shut-down.  Then i installed a completely different gnulinux over the top of 
 my 
 OS and opened the  text-editor to find it reopened the unsaved text-file with 
 only a few words missing.  Sadly it was a very unimportant note and i've not 
 repeated the experiment because it's too risky to do stuff like that.  It 
 shouldn't work so it was quite a surprise.  
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 10:41:33
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents 
 constantly 
 need recovery
 
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
  Are you suggesting that if you log out of or shut down Windows when you have
  some component part of Microsoft Office 2010 open then it will just abort
  and complain next time it is opened?  Are you joking?  Even if you have an
  unsaved document open, Word (or whatever) - being closed by Windows - will
  challenge you to save or discard your changes.  You may have a good reason
  to choose your operating system and application software, but made-up
  stories about others is not.
 
 It will not *abort*, but the next time Word, for instance, opens you
 will definitely be prompted to check whether you want to recover the
 last doc(s) you were working on, even if you carefully saved the
 doc(s) before ending your last session. Try it and see. Microsoft
 Office and LibreOffice function fairly similarly from this viewpoint,
 and it does help to prevent data loss when crashes or accidents
 happen.
 
 BTW, I am *not* getting into a Word versus Writer stand-off here... :-)
 
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I think the default is to assume there was a problem that caused an
unexpected shutdown of any open documents. I think it is more when
power goes off or the OS decides it must reboot than when a user forgot
to shutdown the application correctly. It is very difficult for an
application to know why it shutdown unexpectedly so good practice is
to assume a problem occurred and any open files need to be recovered.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The main thing is that you found a way to solve your current problem.  
Congrats and regards from
Tom :)





From: Tom Cloyd t...@tomcloyd.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 18:51:02
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

I may have seen this too late to join in, but I'll make the next one for sure. 
Thanks very much for the tip.

I agree with Tom, too, in theory. The problem is that my resource account is 
already overdrawn. I have nothing left with which to make a heavy investment, 
anywhere. If it's just a matter of joining a call, well, I can do that, and 
I'll 
have no problem with articulating my concerns re: Base.

T.
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On 07/30/2011 03:25 AM, David Nelson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  wrote:
 I think it's more a case of working on several fronts within TDF.
 1.   joining the Steering-Discuss mailing list and promoting the cause there.
 Tom's right. I can definitely recommend taking time out to join the
 SC's twice-weekly call conferences and raising the issue there. At all
 the confcalls I've attended, there has almost never been a member of
 the user community there to raise questions, yet that was one of the
 central things that the confcalls were designed to cater to. The SC
 people are very approachable and eager to listen to people, so you
 will find interested ears. You can participate in the calls via phone
 or Skype (Skype has always worked for me). Details are here:
 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Dial-in_Details
s
 
 Like you guys, I'm very keen to see Base well-maintained. There's a
 confcall today, Saturday, July 30, and I'll raise the question. If
 others do the same, it will add weight to the issue...
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

It might be time to cut Base loose.  Most versions of MS Office don't include 
Access.  Gnome Office doesn't have a database program.  Perhaps Office Suites 
just don't need an integrated program to do this sort of stuff.  Maybe Calc is 
enough.  There are a few alternatives on the market for people that really need 
a database.  To move forwards Base needs a serious commitment and a strong 
vision of where it wants to get to.  If we cut it loose then LibreOffice as a 
whole is freed from a lot of dependencies and stuff that the other apps don't 
need.  So, lets just drop Base.  


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 9:41:30
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

Am 29.07.2011 03:22, NoOp wrote:

 Hit F4 in Writer or Calc, right-clickOpen the dBase Bibliography.
 All the functionality of a flat (unrelational) dBase connection is
 there. You can connect, query, edit data through forms and dump any row
 set into office documents.



 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/
 quote
 For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required.
 Java is notably required for Base.
 /quote




As a matter of fact you can disable/remove Java, hit F4 ... connect, 
query, edit and dump.
If I would convert our Java databases and remove Java from our systems 
nobody would notice the change.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Cloyd
What I like about this idea is that it frees it up to be picked up by 
anyone who wants to take it and run with it, and THAT just might work.


I do fear for what it might do with people who need an integrated solution.

t.
~~
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On 07/30/2011 06:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

It might be time to cut Base loose.  Most versions of MS Office don't include
Access.  Gnome Office doesn't have a database program.  Perhaps Office Suites
just don't need an integrated program to do this sort of stuff.  Maybe Calc is
enough.  There are a few alternatives on the market for people that really need
a database.  To move forwards Base needs a serious commitment and a strong
vision of where it wants to get to.  If we cut it loose then LibreOffice as a
whole is freed from a lot of dependencies and stuff that the other apps don't
need.  So, lets just drop Base.


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 9:41:30
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

Am 29.07.2011 03:22, NoOp wrote:


Hit F4 in Writer or Calc, right-clickOpen the dBase Bibliography.
All the functionality of a flat (unrelational) dBase connection is
there. You can connect, query, edit data through forms and dump any row
set into office documents.



http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/
quote
For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required.
Java is notably required for Base.
/quote




As a matter of fact you can disable/remove Java, hit F4 ... connect,
query, edit and dump.
If I would convert our Java databases and remove Java from our systems
nobody would notice the change.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Вячеслав Лебедев



-Исходное сообщение- 
From: Tom Cloyd

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:40 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

On 07/29/2011 06:55 PM, ponsiarceds wrote:

.
tomcloyd wrote:

, On 07/28/2011 12:53 AM, Tom Cloyd wrote:

Ug. This is getting ugly really fast. I'm really not on home ground
here at all.


FWIW, here is a relatively painless way to install an older JRE along side
the default Ubuntu one.
( I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 64bit )

It definitely sped up my Base table browsing, but then I don't have any
binaries embedded in my tables. It has the bonus of not messing with the
existing JRE

Overview:

1. Download the JRE archive (approx. 20 mb)
2. Extract in /tmp
3. as root, copy the extracted directory to /usr/lib/jvm
4. set this JRE as the JRE of choice in LO (ToolsOptionsJava)
5. Exit LO  restart

Instructions:

1.Download jdk-6u21-linux-i586.bin (for i386) or jdk-6u21-linux-x64.bin 
for

x86_64 from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html#jdk-6u21-b07-oth-JPR
JRE archive at ORACLE . Save to /tmp
2.run it using: sh jdk-6u21-linux-i586.bin . The JRE is now extracted to
/tmp/jre1.6.0_21/
3. copy to /usr/lib/jvm sudo cp -a jre1.6.0_21/ /usr/lib/jvm
4. Exit  restart office.  In ToolsOptionsJava, choose 1.6.0_21. Exit
restart office
5. Load you Base file  compare the speed.

If you want to remove it simply set the JRE back to the old one in
ToolsOptionsJava  sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_21/


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OK, NOW I'm blown away. I had jdk v.22 (from Ubuntu archives) installed
as an attempted improvement, and got about a 25% increase in speed.
Running now with v. 21 Base is unbelievably snappy and crisp. I've NEVER
had it perform like this for me. THIS is exactly what it needs to be.
Wy better than v. 22.

So, dammit, what will it take to get this fixed, I'm wondering...? I'll
follow through with that Steering committee phone call business, but if
the problem's java, then Oracle has to fix it. Well, this is quite a bit
above my pay grade.

What a fascinating thread this has been. Thanks to all.

T.
Tom Cloyd, MS MA
t...@tomcloyd.com
(435) 272-3332
St. George/Cedar City, Utah

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Hi, Tom
I am glad to receive your reply so soon. Tell me please why LibreOffice do 
not want to open RTF document file.

Would appreciate your soonest reply
Regards
Slava

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Don Myers
My first database was a dos version. I then moved to Microsoft Office 
and bought Access to add to it. After a few years I got tired of paying 
Microsoft prices and got Word Perfect Office Pro which included Paradox. 
It worked very well. Once Open Office came out, I figured that would 
ultimately be the end of Word Perfect, so I moved to it, but kept the 
Word Perfect Suite because I needed a database which was not initially 
included in OpenOffice. I was delighted when OpenOffice added base, and 
converted my database from Paradox to Base. My needs are relatively 
basic for a database. It is mainly for keeping records and also mail 
merge with LibreOffice writer. I've never had any issues with mail 
merge. In the back of my mind I really wanted to move to Linux and knew 
that time would happen sometime, so I tried to have as many programs 
cross compatible as possible. Almost 2 1/2 years ago I began my Linux 
journey. I chose Ubuntu because I figured it had the largest user base, 
and therefore if I had a problem somebody else also probably had the 
same problem. I don't have time to play with the different flavors of 
Linux to give them a try, so as long as Ubuntu does the job, I will 
stick with it. With Open Office having a full suite for Window and 
Linux, it made the move to Ubuntu almost painless for the OpenOffice 
programs including Base. I do not know if it is best for Base to stay 
with LibreOffice or not, but it was a tremendous help to me to have 
everything all together.


Don

On 07/30/2011 08:49 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
What I like about this idea is that it frees it up to be picked up by 
anyone who wants to take it and run with it, and THAT just might work.


I do fear for what it might do with people who need an integrated 
solution.


t.
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On 07/30/2011 06:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

It might be time to cut Base loose.  Most versions of MS Office don't 
include
Access.  Gnome Office doesn't have a database program.  Perhaps 
Office Suites
just don't need an integrated program to do this sort of stuff.  
Maybe Calc is
enough.  There are a few alternatives on the market for people that 
really need
a database.  To move forwards Base needs a serious commitment and a 
strong
vision of where it wants to get to.  If we cut it loose then 
LibreOffice as a
whole is freed from a lot of dependencies and stuff that the other 
apps don't

need.  So, lets just drop Base.


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 9:41:30
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

Am 29.07.2011 03:22, NoOp wrote:


Hit F4 in Writer or Calc, right-clickOpen the dBase Bibliography.
All the functionality of a flat (unrelational) dBase connection is
there. You can connect, query, edit data through forms and dump any 
row

set into office documents.



http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/
quote
For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required.
Java is notably required for Base.
/quote




As a matter of fact you can disable/remove Java, hit F4 ... connect,
query, edit and dump.
If I would convert our Java databases and remove Java from our systems
nobody would notice the change.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Code snippet

2011-07-30 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

I expect that you need to set this from the sheets draw page

' Gets the Shape of a Control( e. g. to reset the size or Position of 
the control

' Parameters:
' The 'oContainer' is the Document or a specific sheet of a Calc - Document
' 'CName' is the Name of the Control
Function GetControlShape(oContainer as Object,CName as String)
Dim i as integer
Dim aShape as Object
   For i = 0 to oContainer.DrawPage.Count-1
  aShape = oContainer.DrawPage(i)
  If HasUnoInterfaces(aShape, com.sun.star.drawing.XControlShape) 
then

 If ashape.Control.Name = CName then
GetControlShape = aShape
exit Function
 End If
  End If
   Next
End Function

So, how do I call it?

Sub gcs
  Dim oSize
  oSize = GetControlShape(ThisComponent.Sheets(0), button1).Size
  Print oSize.Height
  Print oSize.Width
End Sub

In this example, I pass the sheet containing the button with the button 
name to the GetControlShape function. I forget the unit of measure. 
Hmm, oh yeas, 1 = oSize.Height / 2540


But wait, your units metric. I think life just got easier for you :-), 
just set to 500 for 1/2 CM I believe.



On 07/30/2011 07:05 PM, Bill Gradwohl wrote:

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I've searched and can't figure out how to specify the height of a button
at execution time via a basic macro.

If Sheet1 contains a button name OK, how would I specify a button
height of 0.5cm?

The only examples I can find are for buttons on forms, not on a sheet
itself.

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Roatan, Honduras

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