Re: [libreoffice-users] French popup
Bill, On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 22:22 -0700, Bill.M wrote: On 26/08/11 09:06 PM, planas wrote: Bill On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 17:38 -0700, Bill.M wrote: Hi folks, I'm experiencing a problem with a popup in the English version of LibreOffice. I keep getting the Aide du Correcteur Terminologique popping up IN FRENCH. At least this is what title of the help screen in french. I don't read french so Googling is no help either. The actual popup has the term remplacement des terms 'etranger on the top display and I simply wish to either delete or disable this feature. thanks, b. Which version of LO are you using? And what is your OS? Also, can you be more specific about when the French pop-up occurs so we can try to mimic the behavior. Personally I have not seen this behavior some I am puzzled why this happened. LO v.3 Debian Linux Sometimes it doesn't occur in new documents. When it does occur it happens about 2-4 times per sentence. For example, if I type Now is the time it will pop up on the word time in the context Now is the. It doesn't seem to recognize the word time or has a problem with it and activates. I hope this is helpful. I'm sorry I can't provide more specifics. Can you tell me where to disable/uninstall it? b. Do you have multiple languages installed or the French help pack installed? I assume you installed LO from the repository. I am guessing that having multiple languages or help packs is possibly confusing LO. The only other possibility is I can think of is to check the language settings (TOOLSOPTIONSLanguage SettingsLanguages and make sure all the settings are correct for your location. Truthfully, i am very puzzled because I could not find an obvious feature or bug that relates to this. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Suggestions to PTB
In news:j39a1l$oeo$1...@dough.gmane.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net typed: On 08/26/2011 10:14 AM, Twayne wrote: In news:4e577895.1020...@krackedpress.com, ... As for releasing software with bugs, this is normal, even with MS products. But MS fixes their bugs and will continue to do so until 2014 in my case. I am trying to get them to think about the problem that lost them a lof of people in OOo, most of which are still in LO, and if you read over to Alexander's post to me, there seems to be no plans to pick up the bugs and fix them. They're dangerously close to repeating OOo's mistakes. LO is better IMO but what it does not do is what it says it'll do. Many bugs are found in real world testing that happens on some systems, but not others. When these bugs are reported, they are placed on some type of bug needing to be fixed list. According to Alexander, no, that's not so. Again, see his post to me. Devs only want to write new code, not fix code, apparently not even their own. On the OOo releases list you could nominate a bug as a 'blocker' on the list. LO doesn't have the same (that I'm aware of), but they do have a 'most annoying bug' bug report for releases going forward. As far as I can tell anyone can add to that bug report with their own bug report addition. See: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37361 [LibreOffice 3.5 most annoying bugs] quote from first comment This is the Meta issue to track most annoying bugs for the release of LibreOffice 3.5.x releases. It helps developers to concentrate on bugs that are important for users. Also it helps users to be aware of potential problems. If anyone wants to raise an Bug for the release, please add the Bug ID as dependent Bug here to the Meta Bug in field Depends on. Additionally please leave a comment here why you think that the bug should be privileged. See also http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan /quote from first comment So if you've a particular bug that you'd like to see fixed add it there... of course after first reading: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria That does include information on blockers, but I've not found any wiki pages on 'most annoying bug' criteria (yet). So I reckon that until someone defines the MAB criteria, add your MAB to 37361. ... Thanks, Noop; I'll look into that tomorrow. Twayne` -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: strikethrough feature
In news:cado7t4fptxqvhz5bnkswhgdgapffcznrro43phwsb1bs52h...@mail.gmail.com, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com typed: 2011/8/25 Maria Rechnitzer rrrah...@gmail.com: Dear Support, This is the LibreOffice users' list. It's not a real support. We are just users who help each other out. You can ask questions and you can reply to other people's question if you like. I'm well aware of maling lists, forums and newsgroups etc.. I use NNTP instead of the mailing list for what are normally obvious reasons to most, not the least of which is not getting a mass of unrelated to anything I care about from a mailing list. A mailing list can be great for a newbie just trying to pull as much info as they can about as many subjects as they can, but you can't beat NNTP for its conciseness and ablity to easly pick responsed to a post almost instantly. Mailinig lists can quickly become irritating. Add to that the management capabilities and no gui waste as with forums, and you have what I still consder the best listing tool around. As long as the list vs newsgroup processes to work, it's the best of all worlds due to the many displays possible in a group reader. If you plan to write here again, you should subscribe to the list. That's fine for you, but realize that what you like isn't necessarly anyonre/everyone else's cup of tea. Then you will get all the replies to your questions directly in your inbox, also from those who didn't added your email address in the b To:b field manually, like I just didb You will also get other peoples questions, but that is how email lists work. Some people, who are subscribed to many email lists, like myself, have a special email account for email lists only. That's probably not necessary in most cases, I just mentioned it as a tipb No, not for me. I have more to do than scan mailing lists looking for my post responses when I can have them pointed out to me automatically and all grouped together. When I have a question, I DO NOT CARE to see other answers; I might if I were a newbie and had lots of time avalable, but I don't. This is only my opinion, but some of the advice you gave leaves a little to be desired. when word processing in microsoft office (doc or xls) there is a strikethrough feature that allows you to mark words that you want to delete but stIll keep them in the text, e.g. strikethrough. I was not able to find this feature in Libre Office (also not in former Open Office). Is there such a feature? If not I suggest to add it next to the bold, italic and underline feature. You can do that yourself. Here is how: As I said in my prevous posting, you can underline, overline, strike-thru,double-strike-thru, use colors with them and so on in Writer at the program's location I gave. Also note how clunky your post looks below because I only read posts in Plain Text and nothing else. I respectfully advise that you should post and e-mail also in Plain Text unless there is some compelling reason not to. It's even a good idea to have anything that's 8-bit dropped to the floor just to prevent any type of unintended code execution in the body of an e-mail. With Plain Text, you don't get the Unicode or Mime problems that go along with 8-bit e-mails. HTH, Twayne` Tools b Customizeb b Toolbars. LibreOffice Writer Toolbars b Toolbar: Select b Formattingb In the b Commandsb list, scroll down to b Underlineb and highlight it. Click the b Addbb button. In the b Categoryb list of the b Add Commandsb dialogue, select b Formatb . In the b Commandsb list of the b Add Commandsb dialogue, scroll down and select b Strikethroughb (they are listed in alphabetic order, so it's easy to find). Click the Add button b the b Add Commandsb dialogue is closed. In the Customize dialogue, b Strikethroughb is now available and checked (b). You can move it up and down with the b, and b, buttons at the right of the b Commandsb list if it's not in the b rightb place. Click OK. You now have a strike through button available in your Formatting toolbar. In the Customize dialogue you can also customise your menues and keyboard shortcuts, and you can assign macros to different events, such as Open Document, Save Document and more. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg c8c'c cc;c-ccc3ccc0 THANKS FOR PROVIDING THIS SEVICE! I kindly ask you to let me know if the strikethrough feature exists in Libre Office. Yes it does, and in quite a few places. Best regards, Maria -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: strikethrough feature
2011/8/27 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: On 08/26/2011 04:03 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: ... You can do that yourself. Here is how: Tools → Customize… → Toolbars. LibreOffice Writer Toolbars – Toolbar: Select ”Formatting” In the ”Commands” list, scroll down to ”Underline” and highlight it. Click the ”Add…” button. In the ”Category” list of the ”Add Commands” dialogue, select ”Format”. In the ”Commands” list of the ”Add Commands” dialogue, scroll down and select ”Strikethrough” (they are listed in alphabetic order, so it's easy to find). Click the Add button → the ”Add Commands” dialogue is closed. In the Customize dialogue, ”Strikethrough” is now available and checked (☒). You can move it up and down with the ⬆ and ⬇ buttons at the right of the ”Commands” list if it's not in the ”right” place. Click OK. You now have a strike through button available in your Formatting toolbar. In the Customize dialogue you can also customise your menues and keyboard shortcuts, and you can assign macros to different events, such as Open Document, Save Document and more. ... Johnny, your replicating Brian Barker's already clear instructions on how to do exactly that. Yes I did, sorry. Somehow I missed Brian's post, don't know why. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ quote You can do this yourself: o Click the down-arrow at the right end of the Formatting toolbar and select Customize toolbar... | Toolbars. o Under Toolbar Content, click Add... . o Under Category select Format, under Commands select Strikethrough, and click Add and Close. o Click the up and down arrows to move your new button to where you want it - apparently below Underline. o Click OK. I trust this helps. Brian Barker /quote -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: strikethrough feature
2011/8/27 Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com: In news:cado7t4fptxqvhz5bnkswhgdgapffcznrro43phwsb1bs52h...@mail.gmail.com, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com typed: 2011/8/25 Maria Rechnitzer rrrah...@gmail.com: Dear Support, This is the LibreOffice users' list. It's not a real support. We are just users who help each other out. You can ask questions and you can reply to other people's question if you like. I'm well aware of maling lists, forums and newsgroups etc.. I use NNTP instead of the mailing list for what are normally obvious reasons to most, not the least of which is not getting a mass of unrelated to anything I care about from a mailing list. A mailing list can be great for a newbie just trying to pull as much info as they can about as many subjects as they can, but you can't beat NNTP for its conciseness and ablity to easly pick responsed to a post almost instantly. Mailinig lists can quickly become irritating. Add to that the management capabilities and no gui waste as with forums, and you have what I still consder the best listing tool around. As long as the list vs newsgroup processes to work, it's the best of all worlds due to the many displays possible in a group reader. Well, I don't think my comment was meant for you, but maybe I totally misunderstand what you are saying here (English is of course not my native language, that's why it look very strange sometimes). If you plan to write here again, you should subscribe to the list. That's fine for you, but realize that what you like isn't necessarly anyonre/everyone else's cup of tea. I guess I should have written ”could” instead of ”should” or something, I don't know. Anyway, I have always said that if someone is not subscribed it's not my problem that he or she doesn't receive my replies. People didn't like that kind of attitude, so now I changed that; I even added that address to the ”To:” field, to make sure that my reply would reach the right person. I guess I now need to find a third way of doing it, but I'm not sure what's left. Well, I know one thing: Not replying at all. That's quick and easy and doesn't annoy anyone. I think I'll go with that until I find something better. Thanks for your advice. Then you will get all the replies to your questions directly in your inbox, also from those who didn't added your email address in the b To:b field manually, like I just didb You will also get other peoples questions, but that is how email lists work. Some people, who are subscribed to many email lists, like myself, have a special email account for email lists only. That's probably not necessary in most cases, I just mentioned it as a tipb No, not for me. I have more to do than scan mailing lists looking for my post responses when I can have them pointed out to me automatically and all grouped together. When I have a question, I DO NOT CARE to see other answers; I might if I were a newbie and had lots of time avalable, but I don't. This is only my opinion, but some of the advice you gave leaves a little to be desired. I'm not even sure it's right to call it advice. I just throw my crap at the nearest place, obviously. when word processing in microsoft office (doc or xls) there is a strikethrough feature that allows you to mark words that you want to delete but stIll keep them in the text, e.g. strikethrough. I was not able to find this feature in Libre Office (also not in former Open Office). Is there such a feature? If not I suggest to add it next to the bold, italic and underline feature. You can do that yourself. Here is how: As I said in my prevous posting, you can underline, overline, strike-thru,double-strike-thru, use colors with them and so on in Writer at the program's location I gave. Also note how clunky your post looks below because I only read posts in Plain Text and nothing else. I respectfully advise that you should post and e-mail also in Plain Text unless there is some compelling reason not to. It's even a good idea to have anything that's 8-bit dropped to the floor just to prevent any type of unintended code execution in the body of an e-mail. I guess I totally misunderstood what's ”plain text”. I thought it was the same as ”not formatted” text. Only enter text, not formatted in any way. Everything I type is plain UTF-8 text, which is 8 bits in the most common cases, but a lot of characters requires two or even three bytes. Are you really suggesting to use 7-bit text? In that case you can only write in English, so what about when I write to the LibreOffice mailing list in my language? Three of our letters in our alphabet doesn't exist in 7-bit text, and they are VERY commonly used in my language. And with 7 bits none of the eastern Asian countries, like China, Japan and more, could write to a mailing list. For me it is UTF-8 or nothing, so I guess I just have to unsubscribe to all mailing lists then. Well, I could do that. It might
Re: [libreoffice-users] French popup
Hi Bill, On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Bill.M bi...@uniserve.com wrote: On 26/08/11 09:06 PM, planas wrote: Bill On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 17:38 -0700, Bill.M wrote: Hi folks, I'm experiencing a problem with a popup in the English version of LibreOffice. I keep getting the Aide du Correcteur Terminologique popping up IN FRENCH. At least this is what title of the help screen in french. I don't read french so Googling is no help either. The actual popup has the term remplacement des terms 'etranger on the top display and I simply wish to either delete or disable this feature. thanks, b. Which version of LO are you using? And what is your OS? Also, can you be more specific about when the French pop-up occurs so we can try to mimic the behavior. Personally I have not seen this behavior some I am puzzled why this happened. LO v.3 Debian Linux Sometimes it doesn't occur in new documents. When it does occur it happens about 2-4 times per sentence. For example, if I type Now is the time it will pop up on the word time in the context Now is the. It doesn't seem to recognize the word time or has a problem with it and activates. I hope this is helpful. I'm sorry I can't provide more specifics. Can you tell me where to disable/uninstall it? Could you check if you have the extension Language Tool installed, that may come from here. Otherwise, could you also check for the language of the document or paragraphe when the dialog pop up. Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Suggestions to PTB
Le 26/08/11 19:14, Twayne a écrit : Hi Twayne, But MS fixes their bugs and will continue to do so until 2014 in my case. I am trying to get them to think about the problem that lost them a lof of people in OOo, most of which are still in LO, and if you read over to Alexander's post to me, there seems to be no plans to pick up the bugs and fix them. They're dangerously close to repeating OOo's mistakes. LO is better IMO but what it does not do is what it says it'll do. Oh bugs do get fixed, just not necessarily the ones that any given (sub)set of users might want fixing. An example : Base bugs - of the more than one hundred Base bugs declared on bugzilla since the inception of LibreOffice, only a very few have actually been fixed. The reasons for this are multiple, but nonetheless the reality is there. As for the longstanding OOo bugs, well like I said, a developer might decide to try and fix one or the other because he/she has encountered its annoying behaviour and is so hacked off about it that he/she decides to try and sort it out. According to Alexander, no, that's not so. Again, see his post to me. Devs only want to write new code, not fix code, apparently not even their own. Yes and no. It is more motivating to develop one's own code/features, than to fix other people's bugs, especially ones where the origins of the bug's birth may be obscur or go back to a time where programming decisions or decision rationale was poorly documented. As for fixing their own bugs, usually I would say that most of the devs on this project actually take pride in doing so. However, the bugs you seemed to be referring to as I understood it are ones that occurred during Sun/Oracle OOo stewardship. Who is to know whence those bugs came, Sun kept a very tight lid on outside submissions, refusing quite a few from other contributing bodies, going so far as to even write replacement code for that previously submitted by others to be in line with its stewardship policy of the moment. When a final release is targeted to go public, a list of stopper bugs is drawn up in the hope that some will be easy to fix and thereby cleared up rapidly. This is often the case with bugs introduced during development since the inception of LibreOffice. However, where some of the bugs are very old, the investment needed to correct them is often perceived as greater than the benefit to be obtained, in fact greater even than rewriting the whole corresponding code module. As such large rewrites are more future oriented than bug catch-up, it is normal then for such bugs to be placed on standby, pending further new development. I might not like that any more than you (especially with respect to Base in my particular case), but I can understand it from both a human motivation and ressource allocation point of view. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] French popup
On 26/08/11 11:06 PM, planas wrote: Do you have multiple languages installed or the French help pack installed? I assume you installed LO from the repository. I am guessing that having multiple languages or help packs is possibly confusing LO. The only other possibility is I can think of is to check the language settings (TOOLSOPTIONSLanguage SettingsLanguages and make sure all the settings are correct for your location. Truthfully, i am very puzzled because I could not find an obvious feature or bug that relates to this. I had to install an English dictionary (Canadian) and probably installed a few others for occasional use of a foreign word. So I probably have a French dictionary installed. I can't see where to see what dictionaries and options are installed. Under Tools/Options/Language Settings/ I have the default settings for US and Canadian English. Under Writing Aids there is the Light Proof Grammar Checker (dicollect_fr_FR) which was turned on and I have since turned off without any effect. Also there is a Grammar Checking French option which seems to be present but there's no way to turn that off. Also under Tools/Add Ons/ there is a Correcteur Terminologique submenu with a lot of options in French. No way to know what that's about. Is this any help? b. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro Questions
It looks to me that your question is about clarification with the documentation written by our Documentation Writers. Sometimes things are clear to one, when it is not clear to others. I am not a Macro person so I cannot help you, but these things do happen from time to time. I sure admire your keeping your testing records for so many years. With several family members testing 2 and 3 times a day to deal with knowing their proper injection doses, It can be important to see the history of your tests and maybe the doses of fast acting and slower acting meds injected. This document may be of use to you in writing Macros. OpenOffice.org Macros Explained - Andrew D. Pitonyak - third edition - July 26, 2011 He has stated that there should be a LibreOffice version in the future, but he initially wrote this when LibreOffice was not available. I have been told that this is the best documentation for this subject material. http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation-PDF-and-other/Base/OOME_3_0.pdf This document is 495 pages long, so it might have some useful information about Macros. I know some people have problems with referring LibreOffice users to OOo documentation, but sometimes there are not any related documents written specifically for LO yet, so we have to use the original OOo version until they get re-written for LO. On 08/27/2011 12:36 AM, 20rdj04 wrote: Hello, I am writing this off line, as I expect it will be overly long. I have a record, going back to 2008, of my daily blood testing. Over time, I have changed the format of the lines. Today I am making the columns narrower, and putting the columns into a different order. I used to indicate the finger that I was using, and then the day, and then the date. Blood pressure and time of day were next; and finally glucose reading and pulse. Today I want day, date, glucose, time, b/p, and pulse. Since the former record was pretty uniform, it was easy enough to write a macro, ReArrange. Today I found Chapter 13 Getting Started with Macros Using the Macro Recorder … and beyond On page 5, there are these 2 lines: 8) Select the Module1, or the new module that you created, and click Edit to open the Integrated Debugging Environment (IDE). 9) The IDE is a text editor for macros that allows you to edit and create macros. Copy the macro into the IDE. Since I had already written 7 macros, by clicking on Tools, Macros, Record, I don't understand these 9 lines. And I found Tools, Macros, Organize, Basic, Run by going out a little farther. NOW for the important questions. Page 12, Running the Macro Quickly. I have modified Main thus: Sub Main ReArrange End Sub On the edit screen I find Run Basic. But of what value is that? To get there I still need to press Alt-T, M, O, B. So what is the difference between Enter (to Run) and clicking on Run Basic? I need a button (Run Basic) or a function key (F5) on my main document window. (I know F5 currently opens a Navigator window, whatever that is.) Also, near the end of ReArrange, I want to CALL TabSet, and align the columns properly. Putting TabSet into ReArrange does nothing. I have also tried copying the TabSet macro into ReArrange. This also does nothing. I know I'm doing something wrong, but what? And I know that I ask very few questions. I expect you to read between the words, never mind the lines, and answer the questions that I imply. :) The e-mail that I got had my earlier question properly formatted. Thanks, and bless you. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Macro-Questions-tp3288593p3288593.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: working on a CD distribution disc for LO
Thanks Tom, but to clarify - top 20 should say top 20%. I have 11 in the top 20% ranking As of this morning: Current Credit (based on incremental update)5,169,445.20 BOINC World position based on credit (based on incremental update)12,399 out of 2,247,227 BOINC World position based on RAC (based on incremental update) 8,034 out of 2,247,227 [RAC - recent average credits] Accumulated more credit than % of all BOINC users99.448% From yesterdays printable award/notice, Cobblestones is our credit system: Tim Lungstrom has contributed 5,501,710 Cobblestones of computation (4.75 quintillion floating-point operations) to the following scientific research projects: BOINC volunteers are totaling 5,471.08 TeraFLOPS of computational work done on a daily average. If you total all the work BOINC volunteers do, collectively, on a daily basis, we could be considered the distributive computing version of a supercomputer ranked between the first and second fastest supercomputers in the world. below is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOP500 #1 K computer [Japan] - 8,162 TeraFLOPS. #2 Tianhe-1A [China] - 2566 TeraFLOPS #3 Jaguar [USA - Oak Ridge National Laboratory] - 1759 TeraFLOPS We volunteers, whether you believe the numbers or not, do a good thing by volunteering our spare CPU and GPU processing time toward helping projects out that need a great deal of number crunching. I myself support form time to time over a half-dozen medical and biomedical projects that need number crunching to do computer modeling in their research for treatments or cures for such things as Cancer, Alzheimer's, and AIDS. Then there are all the other mathematical, cosmological, and other scientific research project that need BOINC volunteers and our spare computing time to be able to do their research. To be honest, I am passionate about Cancer and Alzheimer's research, since I have had too many friends and families affected by these two nasty illnesses. So, please do not take offense about my strong views on this subject. --- On 08/26/2011 08:35 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Ahh, Tim had Cc'd me a screen-shot of Boinc or wherever that showed me the stats. The 1% is an average of all the projects they monitor and there is a vast number of them. I seem to remember Tim was in the top 20 or higher for quite a few. Regards from Tom :) From: Twaynetwa...@twaynesdomain.com To:users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 26 August, 2011 16:57:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: working on a CD distribution disc for LO Innews:CAGRdvMSNYeu30-vWhTOPaB8=Ymgif=5pqr=di8jnj0kx8zt...@mail.gmail.com, soumalya raydrsouma...@gmail.com typed: you are doing a great job.best wishes On 26 August 2011 03:34, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: ... I am now in the top 1% worldwide for this computer-volunteering. I would like to see an unbiased evidence to your claim that you are in the top 1% WW for this computer volunteering. From whom did you receive this? How was data acquired, etc. etc.. I'd like to know who is doing the tallying for such information/ percentages. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
Hi! Has anyone seen this behavior?https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40273GoAheadAndLogIn=1If so, could the user figure out the solution?I'm surprised it's been over a week without even a bug assignment, so I decided to post on the mail list, which seems fairly more active.Regards,Nicols -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Suggestions to PTB
Le 26/08/11 18:55, Twayne a écrit : Hi Twayne, Thanks for the comeback. Please try to read this with the understanding that every word is meant to be positive and assstive to the LO project. I apprecate your come-back and don't expect a reply but if you wish to, feel free. I'm simply tryng to indicate the other side of the coin and I don't believe I'm alone in this. LO is in danger of going the same route as OOo did. I'm at times a very open critic of the project myself. My comments are in no way to denigrate any one in the development area specifically but one of the high hopes I had for LO was a very early-on promise from TDF/the LO grroup that such things wouldn't be tolerated in LO. Yes, I think initial marketing spin when the project started made users of OOo who switched to LO have very high expectations - some of which have clearly not been met IMO. I like that the envelope issues were sort of taken care of by including templates for the most popular envelope sizes, but it's still several trips around Hogan's Barn if the templates one needs don't exist and if the center/left/right position of text for the addressee doesn't match what the prnter wants, it's still using oddball dimensonal references instead of simply a dimension from the top left side of the envelope. Agreed, it is worse on Mac OSX, where within LO certain printer options are crippled, making printing envelopes and anything bar a normal letter like jumping through rings of fire. And though I haven't looked on 3.4, having to set BOTH printer AND program paper sizes shouldn't be a requirement, ever. I only know of a few different hi-end processors, but none of them require touchng the printer paper size Settings. But I have learned to work out the how-to for envelopes should I need to, so t's not a huge issue to me personally, more like a big annoyance and time-waster. Others though ... Agreed. The above and at least 6 more have been in OOo and continued on into LO without beiing fixed. Do you REALLY feel it's unfair to expect those things to have been fixed? Not at all. I started going through the envelope bug issues the other day checking to see what I could or could not reproduce. Like I said above, print options within LO on Mac are somewhat limited compared to other platforms it seems, so that makes testing/reproducing for me nigh on impossible. Has there ever been a CALL for anyone to the dev masses to dig into these things? LO is an excellent program but it's stuck in the 80-20% rule; and that 20% makes it impossible for me to drop Word for the large files. Not good: I lose not only the ability to do away with Word or WP but I can't make LO a production-use app because of those things. Which I perfectly understand, and as a pragmatic business user myself, I still recommend OOo 3.2.1 for many things because the progress that has been made in LO does not yet outweigh in my eyes the perceived or real disadvantages and bugs that existed in OOo 3.2.1 (mailmerge being one of them). I think I understand how the project functions but of course have no experience in same. The real problem is, LO does not do what it says/implies/menus it can do and still has OOo bugs in it. Yes, I would agree partially - but then, with a truly free, open source project, you can not make anyone do anything. Ultimately, as you say, it will be a law of the jungle thing. If too many niche circumstance users drop the product, then LO will shrink to be just another close runner up to Word/Excel/Powerpoint, along with KOffice, Calligra and all the other wannabes. But again, has a CALL ever gone out for people to work on the old bugs? Of course and some of them do get fixed, eventually. Like the ones that carried over from OOo? Doesn't anyone realize that the project cannot actually become a leader in the processor industry while it has those and other bugs? There is a tendency within the developer community to admit the phenomenon known as bit-rot over time (which personally I find rather worrying), and that the effort fixing an old bug may not be worth it when a whole new module of code could be developed that would also deal with the underlying problems having caused the old bug in the first place. However, the new code development will only take place in the future as and when resources can be made available. Catch 22 :-/ You seem to be saying that volunteers will write the original code but then won't stand behind it when parts of it don't function properly or at all. I WANT LO to succeed, but it cannot while such bugs are ignored and figured instead to be good enough for government work. No that is not what I said, or at least not what I meant. Within the framework of LibreOffice, most developers who create bugs through their own coding efforts take pride in fixing the bugs they cause too. Bear in mind however, that the
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
On 27-08-2011 16:42, Nicolás Adamo wrote: Hi! Has anyone seen this behavior?https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40273GoAheadAndLogIn=1If so, could the user figure out the solution?I'm surprised it's been over a week without even a bug assignment, so I decided to post on the mail list, which seems fairly more active.Regards,Nicols maybe you should also provide a sample C:\LINCEV3\ARTICULO.DBF file? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
On 08/27/2011 12:05 PM, Luuk wrote:On 27-08-2011 16:42, Nicols Adamo wrote:Hi! Has anyone seen this behavior?https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40273GoAheadAndLogIn=1Ifso, could the user figure out the solution?I'm surprised it's been over a week without even a bug assignment, so I decided to post on the mail list, which seems fairly more active.Regards,Nicolsmaybe you should also provide a sample C:\LINCEV3\ARTICULO.DBF file?Hi! It's not necessary, since importing any sheet from any other book causes the same result.Thanks -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
The only thing that seems broken is the page preview (FilePage Preview). In LibO 3.3 and 3.4. it shows the print pages of the current sheet only. ViewPageBreak Preview shows all the pages on each sheet. The new FilePrint... dialog shows all printable pages and they do print actually. When I insert a sheet from dbf, the disturbing thing is that these data get printed as well. I can not reproduce any removal of print ranges. Off topic: processing database data in this way far from optimal. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spreadsheet-3-4-2-Bug-tp3289122p3289245.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Macro Questions
Today is Saturday. I wrote the long letter on Friday. The Main-ReArrange-End Sub routine now works. And the TabSet imbedded in ReArrange is also working. I have both the sub and the line 'Call TabSet' imbedded. I don't know which is working, but, on the other hand, who cares? Thanks, and Bless you. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Macro-Questions-tp3288593p3289266.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
Additional note: When I open your template preciosPlantillaOO3v1.6.ots, the Model* sheets have no print ranges from the start, so I can not see that any print ranges are deleted. I added print ranges to all Model* sheets, inserted a dbf sheet, proved that the print ranges are still there saved, closed, reopened and the print ranges remain in place. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spreadsheet-3-4-2-Bug-tp3289122p3289277.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] French popup
Hi Bill, On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Bill.M bi...@uniserve.com wrote: [...] Also under Tools/Add Ons/ there is a Correcteur Terminologique submenu with a lot of options in French. No way to know what that's about. Is this any help? Yes, we are making some progress :) This one might be what you're searching for. Under Tools Extensions manager, you should find one called Correcteur Terminologique. Click on it and you should normally be able to disable or uninstall it, if not, please come back here and we will tell you how to remove it. Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
Le 27/08/11 18:19, Andreas Säger a écrit : Hi Andreas, Additional note: When I open your template preciosPlantillaOO3v1.6.ots, the Model* sheets have no print ranges from the start, so I can not see that any print ranges are deleted. I added print ranges to all Model* sheets, inserted a dbf sheet, proved that the print ranges are still there saved, closed, reopened and the print ranges remain in place. I just reported the exact same behaviour that you describe in the issue, i.e. there are no default page ranges set when the Calc file is opened from the template. I tried this in all in various different versions of OOo/LO/NeoOffice from OOo 3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4-dev, LO 3.3.4, LO 3.4.2, Neo 3.2p5. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Macro Questions
On 08/27/2011 12:12 PM, 20rdj04 wrote: Today is Saturday. I wrote the long letter on Friday. The Main-ReArrange-End Sub routine now works. And the TabSet imbedded in ReArrange is also working. I have both the sub and the line 'Call TabSet' imbedded. I don't know which is working, but, on the other hand, who cares? Thanks, and Bless you. You care, and hopefully someone with the proper skill set will answer your questions. Everyone here is someone who wants to help, when they have some free time in their schedules. It can take a few days for the person with the right skill level to read your email and know what the answer it. Please be patient. Macros are something that many of us do not do. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Macro-Questions-tp3288593p3289266.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.
The things that are notable are: 1) The stonetest.odg created in Libreoffice loads, displays, and prints correctly in Openoffice 3.2. 2) It prints incorrectly in two different windows operating systems on two different printers (so it's not a specific driver issue). 3) The libra office exported PDF exports and displays and prints correctly. It has to be a bug introduced to the printer rendering engine between 3.2 and 3.4.2. I can't get a libreoffice 3.2 to test. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libre-Office-Draw-Printing-Incorrectly-tp3280018p3289372.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.
LibreOffice started out with its first version numbered 3.3.0, so no 3.2 version. I do not have a 3.3.x version installed to test that line. On 3.4.1 - 64-bit Ubuntu - Export to PDF has jagged image issues. Printing to the CUPS-PDF [and two different inkjet printers] show smooth [not jagged] outlines, but the background image outlined but not filled in with any color. On 08/27/2011 01:32 PM, maxo wrote: The things that are notable are: 1) The stonetest.odg created in Libreoffice loads, displays, and prints correctly in Openoffice 3.2. 2) It prints incorrectly in two different windows operating systems on two different printers (so it's not a specific driver issue). 3) The libra office exported PDF exports and displays and prints correctly. It has to be a bug introduced to the printer rendering engine between 3.2 and 3.4.2. I can't get a libreoffice 3.2 to test. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libre-Office-Draw-Printing-Incorrectly-tp3280018p3289372.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.
I looked and saw no similar bugs so I created bug 40421. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40421 Thanks for your feedback and suggestions. The PDF suggestion gives me a work around until this is fixed. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libre-Office-Draw-Printing-Incorrectly-tp3280018p3289449.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] French popup
Bill Here might be the solution - it was emailed privately to me Greetings. The Correcteur terminologique is an extension distributed by the french government to normalize texts by replacing english terms by the correct french terms. AFAK the only one time where it was available to public was with the MimOOo dvd image. Just uninstall or deactivate th extensions. Regards, JFL On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 06:07 -0700, Bill.M wrote: On 26/08/11 11:06 PM, planas wrote: Do you have multiple languages installed or the French help pack installed? I assume you installed LO from the repository. I am guessing that having multiple languages or help packs is possibly confusing LO. The only other possibility is I can think of is to check the language settings (TOOLSOPTIONSLanguage SettingsLanguages and make sure all the settings are correct for your location. Truthfully, i am very puzzled because I could not find an obvious feature or bug that relates to this. I had to install an English dictionary (Canadian) and probably installed a few others for occasional use of a foreign word. So I probably have a French dictionary installed. I can't see where to see what dictionaries and options are installed. Under Tools/Options/Language Settings/ I have the default settings for US and Canadian English. Under Writing Aids there is the Light Proof Grammar Checker (dicollect_fr_FR) which was turned on and I have since turned off without any effect. Also there is a Grammar Checking French option which seems to be present but there's no way to turn that off. Also under Tools/Add Ons/ there is a Correcteur Terminologique submenu with a lot of options in French. No way to know what that's about. Is this any help? b. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice
I have one document, with some very simple graphic components in it, which is refusing to load in LibreOffice Writer. It has a few simple boxes in the layout, and it just suppresses them. The problem goes away when I save them as a .doc in lieu of .docx Any suggestions? -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
Hi, This is the intended behaviour as it used to be specified for OOo, and Nicolás document behaves perfectly normal : Default print range is a sheet's used range unless you define anything anywhere in the document. Once you have defined one print range explicitly, all the other used range of the whole document won't be printed anymore. Each new sheet won't be printed unless you define its print ranges explicitly. menu:FileNewSpreadsheet... (assuming that you do not use some default template with preset print ranges) Select all sheets. Select a rectangle of cells. Type =SHEET() and hit Alt+Enter instead of Enter Each sheet shows its sheet index in the selected range. All the rectangles are printed. Insert a new sheet and some content. Its used range will be printed as well. - Select a subset of sheets. Select a rectangle of data. menu:FormatPrintRangesDefine Release the multiple sheet selection. Only the defined ranges are printed. Insert a new sheet and some content. It won't be included in the collection of explicitly defined print ranges. There is a bug is in the print preview. It should always display anything printable. That is either the used ranges of all sheets or the collection of explicitly defined ranges. Currently it shows the used/defined range of the current sheet only. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spreadsheet-3-4-2-Bug-tp3289122p3289545.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
Hi Andreas! Are you sure!?? When I open it and do not import any sheet, print ranges are well! After importing any sheet, they all go wrong (null-deleted). I updated the bug report with a reduced version of the DBF file opened by the macro, and added some explanation of the process before really using the sheet. Thanks 2011/8/27 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de: Additional note: When I open your template preciosPlantillaOO3v1.6.ots, the Model* sheets have no print ranges from the start, so I can not see that any print ranges are deleted. I added print ranges to all Model* sheets, inserted a dbf sheet, proved that the print ranges are still there saved, closed, reopened and the print ranges remain in place. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spreadsheet-3-4-2-Bug-tp3289122p3289277.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] French popup
Le 27/08/2011 21:57, planas a écrit : The Correcteur terminologique is an extension distributed by the french government to normalize texts by replacing english terms by the correct french terms. AFAK the only one time where it was available to public was with the MimOOo dvd image. Just uninstall or deactivate th extensions. +1 Though I am a French civil servant, I can only encourage to uninstall that bloody extension which I find somewhat intrusive. I can confirm the message Bill gets is from that extension specifically. HTH, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice
Hi :) If you can then please stick with the .doc format and avoid the .docX. The newer format is proprietary and was designed to be incompatible with non-MS Office programs including LibreOffice. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 27 August, 2011 21:10:41 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice I have one document, with some very simple graphic components in it, which is refusing to load in LibreOffice Writer. It has a few simple boxes in the layout, and it just suppresses them. The problem goes away when I save them as a .doc in lieu of .docx Any suggestions? --Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Suggestions to PTB
On 08/27/2011 06:48 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: . However, where some of the bugs are very old, the investment needed to correct them is often perceived as greater than the benefit to be obtained, in fact greater even than rewriting the whole corresponding code module. As such large rewrites are more future oriented than bug catch-up, it is normal then for such bugs to be placed on standby, pending further new development. I might not like that any more than you (especially with respect to Base in my particular case), but I can understand it from both a human motivation and ressource allocation point of view. If Ford did to automobiles what you suggest is proper conduct for software development, Ford would be out of business. If during the normal course of using a product (Ford car), the brake pedal would periodically fall off for no apparent reason, consumers would be outraged, Ford would put a team on it and it would get corrected. I'm certain of it. I and many other people use OO/LO and periodically get file corruption rendering the document useless. I'd say that's roughly the equivalent of the brakes falling off a car. I've reported this for years and corruption issues persist with identical symptoms from one release to the next, from OO to LO. I can understand your position for nuisance items, but file corruption is the software having a brain aneurysm. It needs emergency attention right NOW. I'm a professional software developer (mainframes PC's) and I've managed software teams to produce products sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars per copy. The market incentive to produce a reliable product is what is missing in open source. No ones butt is on the line - no accountability. As the old saying goes, Lead, follow or get out of the way. LO has positioned itself as an alternative office suite. It has an obligation to produce a reliable product. Period. If that can't be achieved year after year, then the management of that project, or lack of it is at fault. Stop writing code. Get the project organized, possibly even create a branch for profit, and get on with it or get out of the way. -- Bill Gradwohl Roatan, Honduras -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
LibreOffice 3.4.1 and 3.3.4 under Linux: Your document has not a single print range defined, so no print range gets deleted. Your dispatch macro opens the dbf in a new window. It does not affect the spreadsheet by any means. What you try to do is an awful mess anyway. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spreadsheet-3-4-2-Bug-tp3289122p3289586.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet 3.4.2 Bug
2011/8/27 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de: The only thing that seems broken is the page preview (FilePage Preview). In LibO 3.3 and 3.4. it shows the print pages of the current sheet only. ViewPageBreak Preview shows all the pages on each sheet. The new FilePrint... dialog shows all printable pages and they do print actually. When I insert a sheet from dbf, the disturbing thing is that these data get printed as well. I can not reproduce any removal of print ranges. Off topic: processing database data in this way far from optimal. Especially with LibreOffice. Sorry, couldn't help myself… :D -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spreadsheet-3-4-2-Bug-tp3289122p3289245.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice won't display SVG file generated by LibreOffice
I have 2 Freelance Graphics .DRW files that I have been converting to other formats by various means. I have generated SVG files using Inkscape on the mac and Sketch on the mac. I have also generated an SVG file from a ODP presentation produced from one of the .DRW files. The SVG file generated by the ODP presentation won't import into LibreOffice Drawing. You get the lines but not the text. The embedding option Insert-Picture route into Writer is even worse the lines are displayed wrongly and you don't get text. What sort of SVG files does LibreOffice produce? After doing considerable work on this, I am of the conclusion that the SVG format is particularly flakey, or the programs that are supposed to edit it are dreadful. The SVG file generated by LibreOffice looks better in preview on the Mac than the SVG files generated by Inkscape. Another curious thing is that the Inkscape SVG files I have generated are better (Open in more programs and are more reliable) than the Standard SVG files generated by Inkscape. Sketch seems to be worse at SVG import than Inkscape. This is particularly dreadful since Sketch is a paid for program. I am using a trial version. On this basis I won't be paying for it when the trial runs out. Other than that LibreOffice is much better than Open Office. With Open Office on the mac I had to have NeoOffice as well. The fonts in Open Office weren't very good, at low zooms you got screen corruption. NeoOffice corrected this problem, however NeoOffice doesn't use VoiceOver the mac screenreader. I don't use VoiceOver as a rule, but I wan't a program that can use it if necessary. NeoOffice management have said that they don't support VoiceOver, that I think is reprehensible. LibreOffice on the other hand does support VoiceOver and solves the font corruption problem. So I have got rid of NeoOffice. Also sine NeoOffice is a paid for program (where you have to pay before you try) I have gone to the far better free LibreOffice. I really would like to get a proper SVG file generated for these 2 .DRW files, that I can archive, and have confidence that I will find a program that will be able to read this standard format in the future. Note that both the Inkscape and LibreOffice SVG files display in a web browser. I have already got PDF and EPS files from these 2 .DRW files, I just wanted to have more options for the future. Thank you very much for your attention. Declan Moriarty -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice won't display SVG file generated by LibreOffice
Could you tell us what LibreOffice you are using? 3.3.# or 3.4.# Currently 3.3.4 is out for that line, while 3.4.2 is out for its, along with the previous versions. What MAC OS are you using? It is always nice to know that a specific version is working well on a specific OS for one of LO's users. For my part I have only use Windows and Ubuntu/Linux version of it. I also use Inkscape now, but I came from Corel Draw vector graphics when I ran Windows as my default OS, but Ubuntu is my on my desktop as my default OS, with Windows on only one laptop. I did not know about the issues between Inkscape SVG and Standard SVG and other packages, thanks. I wonder if Xara Xtreme supports that .DRW format? On 08/27/2011 05:16 PM, Declan Moriarty wrote: I have 2 Freelance Graphics .DRW files that I have been converting to other formats by various means. I have generated SVG files using Inkscape on the mac and Sketch on the mac. I have also generated an SVG file from a ODP presentation produced from one of the .DRW files. The SVG file generated by the ODP presentation won't import into LibreOffice Drawing. You get the lines but not the text. The embedding option Insert-Picture route into Writer is even worse the lines are displayed wrongly and you don't get text. What sort of SVG files does LibreOffice produce? After doing considerable work on this, I am of the conclusion that the SVG format is particularly flakey, or the programs that are supposed to edit it are dreadful. The SVG file generated by LibreOffice looks better in preview on the Mac than the SVG files generated by Inkscape. Another curious thing is that the Inkscape SVG files I have generated are better (Open in more programs and are more reliable) than the Standard SVG files generated by Inkscape. Sketch seems to be worse at SVG import than Inkscape. This is particularly dreadful since Sketch is a paid for program. I am using a trial version. On this basis I won't be paying for it when the trial runs out. Other than that LibreOffice is much better than Open Office. With Open Office on the mac I had to have NeoOffice as well. The fonts in Open Office weren't very good, at low zooms you got screen corruption. NeoOffice corrected this problem, however NeoOffice doesn't use VoiceOver the mac screenreader. I don't use VoiceOver as a rule, but I wan't a program that can use it if necessary. NeoOffice management have said that they don't support VoiceOver, that I think is reprehensible. LibreOffice on the other hand does support VoiceOver and solves the font corruption problem. So I have got rid of NeoOffice. Also sine NeoOffice is a paid for program (where you have to pay before you try) I have gone to the far better free LibreOffice. I really would like to get a proper SVG file generated for these 2 .DRW files, that I can archive, and have confidence that I will find a program that will be able to read this standard format in the future. Note that both the Inkscape and LibreOffice SVG files display in a web browser. I have already got PDF and EPS files from these 2 .DRW files, I just wanted to have more options for the future. Thank you very much for your attention. Declan Moriarty -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice
Hi Tom! I'm surprised with that: IFAIK, the docx format was just the opposite: the (XML) Open Format reply of Microsoft to the banning of proprietary formats (the old .doc formats were especially targeted...) by the governments of a lot of countries, starting with the USA, Japan, several European countries...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docx I suppose that if Microsoft made available a converter pack (with read and WRITE capabilities), it was also not entirely for avoiding people to buy the new versions of MSO... Best regards, Jean-Louis Le 27/08/2011 20:39, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) If you can then please stick with the .doc format and avoid the .docX. The newer format is proprietary and was designed to be incompatible with non-MS Office programs including LibreOffice. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingenvlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 27 August, 2011 21:10:41 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice I have one document, with some very simple graphic components in it, which is refusing to load in LibreOffice Writer. It has a few simple boxes in the layout, and it just suppresses them. The problem goes away when I save them as a .doc in lieu of .docx Any suggestions? --Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jean-Louis Oneto e-mail: jl.on...@free.fr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice
Hi :) I think it depends on whether you mean the implementation as actually used in MS Office 2007 2010 or the theoretical standard as agreed by various organisations. Why MS do not seem to have followed the standard they drew-up could possibly be a marketing ploy, or at least perceived as such. Either that or they are inept at implementing their own standard. Either way it does not inspire confidence in using their new formats especially when they don't work and their old formats do. Regards from Tom :) From: Jean-Louis Oneto jl.on...@free.fr To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 28 August, 2011 0:38:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice Hi Tom! I'm surprised with that: IFAIK, the docx format was just the opposite: the (XML) Open Format reply of Microsoft to the banning of proprietary formats (the old .doc formats were especially targeted...) by the governments of a lot of countries, starting with the USA, Japan, several European countries...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docx I suppose that if Microsoft made available a converter pack (with read and WRITE capabilities), it was also not entirely for avoiding people to buy the new versions of MSO... Best regards, Jean-Louis Le 27/08/2011 20:39, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) If you can then please stick with the .doc format and avoid the .docX. The newer format is proprietary and was designed to be incompatible with non-MS Office programs including LibreOffice. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingenvlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 27 August, 2011 21:10:41 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice I have one document, with some very simple graphic components in it, which is refusing to load in LibreOffice Writer. It has a few simple boxes in the layout, and it just suppresses them. The problem goes away when I save them as a .doc in lieu of .docx Any suggestions? --Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jean-Louis Oneto e-mail: jl.on...@free.fr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice
Hi :-) ! With all the problems I had with MS software, (one of the las was with Word XP which forced me to migrate to OO then LO), I can easily believe that they unable to implement their own standards, but that doesn't imply that there is not a marketing strategy behind! :-( Regards, Jean-Louis Le 28/08/2011 01:00, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I think it depends on whether you mean the implementation as actually used in MS Office 2007 2010 or the theoretical standard as agreed by various organisations. Why MS do not seem to have followed the standard they drew-up could possibly be a marketing ploy, or at least perceived as such. Either that or they are inept at implementing their own standard. Either way it does not inspire confidence in using their new formats especially when they don't work and their old formats do. Regards from Tom :) From: Jean-Louis Onetojl.on...@free.fr To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 28 August, 2011 0:38:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice Hi Tom! I'm surprised with that: IFAIK, the docx format was just the opposite: the (XML) Open Format reply of Microsoft to the banning of proprietary formats (the old .doc formats were especially targeted...) by the governments of a lot of countries, starting with the USA, Japan, several European countries...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docx I suppose that if Microsoft made available a converter pack (with read and WRITE capabilities), it was also not entirely for avoiding people to buy the new versions of MSO... Best regards, Jean-Louis Le 27/08/2011 20:39, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) If you can then please stick with the .doc format and avoid the .docX. The newer format is proprietary and was designed to be incompatible with non-MS Office programs including LibreOffice. Regards from Tom :) From: Rogier F. van Vlissingenvlisc...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 27 August, 2011 21:10:41 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Document rendering flaw in LibreOffice I have one document, with some very simple graphic components in it, which is refusing to load in LibreOffice Writer. It has a few simple boxes in the layout, and it just suppresses them. The problem goes away when I save them as a .doc in lieu of .docx Any suggestions? --Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jean-Louis Oneto e-mail: jl.on...@free.fr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro Questions
On 08/26/2011 03:18 PM, 20rdj04 wrote: These four statements, and others, stand on their own: dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoToNextPara, , 0, Array()) dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:InsertPara, , 0, Array()) dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoToEndOfLine, , 0, Array()) dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:Delete, , 0, Array()) Parameter 1: a reference to the documents frame object. Parameter 2: The command. Parameter 3: Name of the target frame. In your case, this is always an empty string, which means that it is not specified. No problem, because the first parameter receives it and finds the first contained frame that can handle the command. Parameter 4: Indicates how to search for the named frame. You do not name a frame, so, this is zero and ignored. Parameter 5: Arguments meant for the command. So, when you say that these stand on their own, you mean that you send no arguments to the command that is executed. But moving the cursor Up, Down, Left, or Right requires a DIM set of statements. And if I want to move Up or Down 5 lines, 5 arrays are needed, args1, args2, args3, etc. I recognize that I can change the Value from 1 to 5 and delete the following 4 sets, but why is it necessary? Because move up and move down require arguments that tell them how many. Note that the macro recorder does a rather poor job. One of the initial lead developers mentioned to me one time that he thought that it might have been better if it had been removed. He also mentioned roughly how much money and work it would take to fix. No attempt is made to simplify the generated macro. As each step is recorded, a set of lines is generated. Certainly it is crude. that said, it works fine for many quick and dirty tasks, and then fails for others. I have a macro now (Re Arrange) which requires that I move down 3 lines to get part of the old record, and then up 3 lines to place the part, then down 3 lines, and up... Also, in the set dim args38(1) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue args38(0).Name = Count args38(0).Value = 1 args38(1).Name = Select args38(1).Value = false dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, .uno:GoDown, , 0, args38()) what does Value = false mean; what does Value = true mean? True and False are boolean values in basic. The Select argument takes a true or false, which you can think of as should I select text as I move? I seem to remember hearing that this was broken in LO, however, so you might not see any difference if you set it to true. I have not tested it. In the last line, what is for (a missing parameter, I expect); I mention this above, that is for the targeted frame name if needed or desired. It is not specified. and what is the 0 for? Frame search options. But you did not specify the frame name. Can the zero be replaced by another number upon occasion? Yes. My guess is that these values are specified here: http://api.openoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/frame/FrameSearchFlag.html Thanks, bless you. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro Questions
Are you looking at the version for OOo or for LO. This was very recently redone for LO. On 08/27/2011 12:36 AM, 20rdj04 wrote: Hello, I am writing this off line, as I expect it will be overly long. I have a record, going back to 2008, of my daily blood testing. Over time, I have changed the format of the lines. Today I am making the columns narrower, and putting the columns into a different order. I used to indicate the finger that I was using, and then the day, and then the date. Blood pressure and time of day were next; and finally glucose reading and pulse. Today I want day, date, glucose, time, b/p, and pulse. Since the former record was pretty uniform, it was easy enough to write a macro, ReArrange. Today I found Chapter 13 Getting Started with Macros Using the Macro Recorder … and beyond On page 5, there are these 2 lines: 8) Select the Module1, or the new module that you created, and click Edit to open the Integrated Debugging Environment (IDE). 9) The IDE is a text editor for macros that allows you to edit and create macros. Copy the macro into the IDE. Since I had already written 7 macros, by clicking on Tools, Macros, Record, I don't understand these 9 lines. And I found Tools, Macros, Organize, Basic, Run by going out a little farther. NOW for the important questions. Page 12, Running the Macro Quickly. I have modified Main thus: Sub Main ReArrange End Sub On the edit screen I find Run Basic. But of what value is that? To get there I still need to press Alt-T, M, O, B. So what is the difference between Enter (to Run) and clicking on Run Basic? I need a button (Run Basic) or a function key (F5) on my main document window. (I know F5 currently opens a Navigator window, whatever that is.) Also, near the end of ReArrange, I want to CALL TabSet, and align the columns properly. Putting TabSet into ReArrange does nothing. I have also tried copying the TabSet macro into ReArrange. This also does nothing. I know I'm doing something wrong, but what? And I know that I ask very few questions. I expect you to read between the words, never mind the lines, and answer the questions that I imply. :) The e-mail that I got had my earlier question properly formatted. Thanks, and bless you. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Macro-Questions-tp3288593p3288593.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
