Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash

2012-04-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ok, so if you have created parallel installs of LibreOffice without using the 
guide then they might be interacting badly.  I don't think it's that but it 
might be worth uninstalling the downloaded version and then reinstall it but 
following the parallel install guide this time.  
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

There is a chapter about bibliographies and such in the official guides.  
Chapter 12 in the Writer Guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
I don't think that is going to help either but it might be worth a quick flick 
through and perhaps skim read parts.

Frequent crashing usually indicates a bad version of java.  Java 6_21 seems to 
be the best for older versions of LibreOffice but i think you need the 7_3 (or 
around there, most recent is best).  Unfortunately java gets compromised so 
fast nowadays that the last few versions haven't even been released before 
Oracle have had to start working on the next version.  So it takes a bit of 
digging around on the Oracle website (or via java.com).  I found these links 
through a quick googles search but i'm not sure they are the latest or best 
links
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-se-jdk-7-download-432154.html
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java7.xml

On the wiki-page for documentation they have 3rd party documentation alongside 
early releases of official documentation and this section might be useful for 
attcking the problem from a programming perspective
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Programmers

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Jonathan Schultz jonat...@imatix.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 6:35

Unfortunately I'm still not out of the woods.

The TDF version of LibreOffice isn't detected by bibus. Which means no 
bibliography, which is pretty much a deal-breaker.

So I played with the debian/testing version again, and managed to get it 
to not crash with my file by deleting my user profile. Then I rebuilt 
the profile... and it started crashing again. And now if I start again 
with a virgin profile, it still crashes.

I tried to look at the source for bibus (it's all in python) to work out 
how it detects whether Libre/Open-Office is present, but don't know 
enough about the LibreOffice API to know what I'm really looking for.

So I still have a basically unusable system. :(

On 08/04/12 11:34, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Phew, i'm glad to hear you solved it.  Presumably you copied the old User 
 Profile to the new place to get your previous settings and Extensions back?  
 You can always try the repo version another time and then perhaps do a 
 parallel install after that maybe.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com  wrote:

 From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11

 You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't
 mention it.  Can you download the TDF's official version instead of
 using one from the repos?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB

 I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed with
 my desktop integration a little and put the configuration files in a
 different place, but when I'd worked that out it all looked good.

 I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually didn't notice 
 that you'd shown me that link until it was too late. I guess I can go back to 
 the debian distro when they get 3.4.6?

 Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm instead
 of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable 3.4.6 instead
 of the 3.5.2.

 It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation.

 Cheers,
 Jonathan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT: Happy easter from Brazilian LibreOffice Community

2012-04-08 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Eliane,

Le 2012-04-06 10:46, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit :

Dear all,

Happy easter

This is my gift for all of you
https://plus.google.com/photos/109302841731362777691/albums/5728293174264405281 



Best

Eliane Domingos de Sousa
gtalk/skype: elianedomingos
twitter: eliane_domingos
identica/facebook: elianedomingos


Nice! A great Easter to everyone!

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash

2012-04-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There are likely to be differences between the official TDF version and any 
version in any distros repos because they tend to tweak them a little to fit in 
better.  It doesn't usually make things go wonky but appears to have broken 
something for you  this time.  

Noob-friendly gateway distros such as Ubuntu/Debian family are great for 
starting out with GnuLinux but once you get into tweaking things yourself you 
might enjoy giving Arch or Slackware a try.  There are a lot of distros in 
between the 2 extremes.  Slackware usually tries to do the least amount of 
tweaking for most packages but apparently Arch has better documentation to help 
set the whole thing up.  If i went this route i would dual-boot with 
Ubuntu/Debian for a while by installing Arch or Slackware on a new partition.  
I don't think i would go this route at all tho.  I prefer sticking with Ubuntu 
as articles appear in fairly mainstream media about it and i bump into people 
that are using it.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultz jonat...@imatix.com wrote:

From: Jonathan Schultz jonat...@imatix.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 5:26

 Presumably you copied
 the old User Profile to the new place to get your previous settings
 and Extensions back?

Yes, did that and it worked fine. I also do some strange things like 
replace the dictionary files with symbolic links into my working 
directories so that they get shared and synchronised between my 
different devices.

  You can always try the repo version another
 time and then perhaps do a parallel install after that maybe.

Since I noticed that the debian testing repository is allegedly the same 
version as TDF's (3.4.6-602) I tried using it but the problem came back. 
So I'll stick with TDF's version for now and wait for a new release.

Cheers,
Jonathan

  Regards
 from Tom :)


 --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com  wrote:

 From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re:
 [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To:
 users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11

 You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't
 mention it.  Can you download the TDF's official version instead
 of using one from the repos?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB

 I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed
 with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration files
 in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all looked
 good.

 I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually
 didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late. I
 guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6?

 Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm
 instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable
 3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2.

 It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation.

 Cheers, Jonathan




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[libreoffice-users] Remove Macro from spreadsheet

2012-04-08 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

LO 3.5.2.2.
I tried setting a Macro in a particular spreadsheet that didn't work.
I have deleted everything I can find in Tools-Macros-Organise 
Macros-Libre Office Basic but there are still two entries of Standard 
under My Macros and the name of the spreadsheet that have no Delete 
option when selected.
Every time the sheet opens I get a message about either allowing or 
disabling Macros.
How do I delete this macro completely so there is no message on opening 
the sheet?


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[libreoffice-users] GMane -- can't connect

2012-04-08 Thread Marc Paré
It looks like there could be problems with GMane again. I can't seem to 
connect to the NNTP server. It could be related to my version of 
Thunderbird. I am using Thunderbird v.11.0.1


Is there anyone else having the same problems to confirm?

Cheers,

Marc

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[libreoffice-users] Smartquotes Libre Office 3.5.2.2

2012-04-08 Thread Rogier F. van Vlissingen
I have not been able to figure how to get smart quotes for single quotes,
while for double quotes I just get smart quotes automatically. Does anyone
know the answer? The help text does not seem to know what smart quotes even
are.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash

2012-04-08 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


I prefer to always use TDF's version of LO.  Of course my version of 
Linux is Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, so the repository tends to not get the most 
up-to-date version of the packages I use.


I also am using 3.4.6 now.  I am waiting for some issues to be resolved 
in the 3.5.x line that are show-stoppers for me.


I ALWAYS have a working user profile in backup, for when my profile get 
corrupted by something.  That tends to happen about every 6 months or so.


As for Distros, well I like the GNOME desktop used by Ubuntu 10.xx.  I 
have tried 11.xx classic GNOME options but I cannot get the panels on 
both the top and bottom of the desktop, like I really want/need them to 
be used for.  Maybe when 12.04 LTS gets going, it would have what I 
need.  I do not like the tablet style of desktop environments that 
seem to the the distros are going.  I have had to have GNOME as my 
default desktop with KDE installed so I can use many of its system tools 
that work better for me than GNOME's version.  So I use a combination of 
GNOME and KDE packages.  Until I can get a modern distro to give me 
enough of what I need, I cannot switch.  Actually, I use a dual boot 
laptop to test out Ubuntu's newest version to see if I can get it to do 
what I want/need.




On 04/08/2012 06:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There are likely to be differences between the official TDF version and any version in any distros repos because they tend to tweak them a little to fit in better.  It doesn't usually make things go wonky but appears to have broken something for you  this time. 

Noob-friendly gateway distros such as Ubuntu/Debian family are great for starting out with GnuLinux but once you get into tweaking things yourself you might enjoy giving Arch or Slackware a try.  There are a lot of distros in between the 2 extremes.  Slackware usually tries to do the least amount of tweaking for most packages but apparently Arch has better documentation to help set the whole thing up.  If i went this route i would dual-boot with Ubuntu/Debian for a while by installing Arch or Slackware on a new partition.  I don't think i would go this route at all tho.  I prefer sticking with Ubuntu as articles appear in fairly mainstream media about it and i bump into people that are using it. 


Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com  wrote:

From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 5:26


Presumably you copied
the old User Profile to the new place to get your previous settings
and Extensions back?

Yes, did that and it worked fine. I also do some strange things like
replace the dictionary files with symbolic links into my working
directories so that they get shared and synchronised between my
different devices.


   You can always try the repo version another
time and then perhaps do a parallel install after that maybe.

Since I noticed that the debian testing repository is allegedly the same
version as TDF's (3.4.6-602) I tried using it but the problem came back.
So I'll stick with TDF's version for now and wait for a new release.

Cheers,
Jonathan

   Regards

from Tom :)


--- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com   wrote:

From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com  Subject: Re:
[libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To:
users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11


You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't
mention it.  Can you download the TDF's official version instead
of using one from the repos?
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB

I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed
with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration files
in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all looked
good.

I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually
didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late. I
guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6?


Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm
instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable
3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2.

It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation.

Cheers, Jonathan







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Make a form that allows user to drag and drop in an image

2012-04-08 Thread drew jensen
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 21:11 -0700, avamk wrote:
 Thanks for the link! Looks like the Base Guide is still in its very early
 stages of development, are there comparable guides/books out that that I can
 start studying now??
 
 Also, I've downloaded the example database and have been able to add new
 images to it, and am trying to play around with it now. 

Hi Avamk,

Wonderful, I was hoping you had done so.

Didn't make it back to this yesterday, having a quite coffee after the
Easter bustle here now and a good time to do so.

I noted in the first mail that I'll just stub in the code to handle
relative path from the perspective of the directory the ORB is stored
in, meaning that I'm flaking out on you ;) and only handling sub-dirs as
relative. 

Everything you need to handle more is of course there, it would just
take a bit more time - also, basic isn't the only scripting tool
available with LibreOffice, you could use python, javascript, rexx even.

Anyhow, I digress - off to add another half dozen lines of basic and
I'll update the example file.

Happy Easter and Shalom,

//drew

 If you could provide
 any tips on making the form enter relative paths (relative to the database
 file) that would be great!!
 
 Thank you so much.
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: GMane -- can't connect

2012-04-08 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/8/12 6:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

It looks like there could be problems with GMane again. I can't seem to
connect to the NNTP server. It could be related to my version of
Thunderbird. I am using Thunderbird v.11.0.1

Is there anyone else having the same problems to confirm?

Cheers,

Marc



Just read your post via Gmane, and replying using Gmane.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Remove Macro from spreadsheet

2012-04-08 Thread Joachim Otahal (privat)

If you have enough courage:
The .odt files are internally zip files with a specific structure. You 
can unpack them with i.e. 7-zip and check the .xml (with a usable .xml 
editor, LO packs the .xml code in one text line) and check for the macro 
which should be gone. If you find it file a bug report.


Jou

Gordon Burgess-Parker schrieb:

LO 3.5.2.2.
I tried setting a Macro in a particular spreadsheet that didn't work.
I have deleted everything I can find in Tools-Macros-Organise 
Macros-Libre Office Basic but there are still two entries of Standard 
under My Macros and the name of the spreadsheet that have no Delete 
option when selected.
Every time the sheet opens I get a message about either allowing or 
disabling Macros.
How do I delete this macro completely so there is no message on 
opening the sheet?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Make a form that allows user to drag and drop in an image

2012-04-08 Thread drew jensen
On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 11:34 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 A google search gave me these for OpenOffice.org's Base which is almost 
 exactly the same
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Database
 http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=82025
 http://sheepdogguides.com/fdb/fdb1main.htm

hi Tom,

Thanks for that - I hadn't looked over the stuff at sheedogguides in a
while, that's gotten better over time.

I noticed an example db's about birds, wouldn't be surprised if that
handles images, did you by chance check to see if it, or any of the
others there do what Avamk is looking for?

Also - I'd be nice to have a link to the sheepdog site somewhere on the
wiki perhaps, what do you think?

Best wishes,

//drew

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Make a form that allows user to drag and drop in an image

2012-04-08 Thread drew jensen
Howdy avamk,

Alright updated the file and added it as new file, (different URL on the
wiki) this is a zip file now.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Linkme.zip

It will extract to a sub-dir named, linkme whith:
linkme.odb
lo-client-libo-wallpaper.jpg
images/basicorganizer.png

In the database the first two records should display a graphic from the
remote server, as before. The next two will display using the relative
path from the perspective of the odb file. 

You can use the file picker (which I wish would just start in the last
dir..arrgh) to select files from anywhere on the disk, if they are in
the directory of the odb or a sub-dir then a relative path, where the
base file directory is root

Off to a supper, I'll come back and try to write a decent explanation of
the basic lines, tonight.

//drew

On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 21:11 -0700, avamk wrote:
 Thanks for the link! Looks like the Base Guide is still in its very early
 stages of development, are there comparable guides/books out that that I can
 start studying now??
 
 Also, I've downloaded the example database and have been able to add new
 images to it, and am trying to play around with it now. If you could provide
 any tips on making the form enter relative paths (relative to the database
 file) that would be great!!
 
 Thank you so much.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Make a form that allows user to drag and drop in an image

2012-04-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I haven't had a look to see if it would help Avamk's issue about showing images 
in forms.  It's not something i have tried doing before and it looked like the 
question was going well.  Avamk, have you had a look through?

Sure, add the link if it's a good one.  I wasn't involved with OpenOffice.org 
and it's the first time i have seen those guides.  The wiki's are for anyone 
and everyone to update so anyone could add the link if they think it might help 
people.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Make a form that allows user to drag and 
drop in an image
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 21:49

On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 11:34 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 A google search gave me these for OpenOffice.org's Base which is almost 
 exactly the same
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Database
 http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=82025
 http://sheepdogguides.com/fdb/fdb1main.htm

hi Tom,

Thanks for that - I hadn't looked over the stuff at sheedogguides in a
while, that's gotten better over time.

I noticed an example db's about birds, wouldn't be surprised if that
handles images, did you by chance check to see if it, or any of the
others there do what Avamk is looking for?

Also - I'd be nice to have a link to the sheepdog site somewhere on the wiki 
perhaps, what do you think?

Best wishes,

//drew

snip


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Remove Macro from spreadsheet

2012-04-08 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Chapter 13 of the Getting Started Guide might help
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice
I guess you have already tried that.  

Andrew Pitonyak's guides about Macros are fairly brilliant apparently but
might need a lot of wading through to find what you need
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Programmers

Regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Remove Macro from spreadsheet

2012-04-08 Thread drew jensen
On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 13:06 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 LO 3.5.2.2.
 I tried setting a Macro in a particular spreadsheet that didn't work.
 I have deleted everything I can find in Tools-Macros-Organise 
 Macros-Libre Office Basic but there are still two entries of Standard 
 under My Macros and the name of the spreadsheet that have no Delete 
 option when selected.
 Every time the sheet opens I get a message about either allowing or 
 disabling Macros.
 How do I delete this macro completely so there is no message on opening 
 the sheet?

The items are modules.

Open the Organize macors dialog again
Select the Module tab
Hightlight and delete each module
close the dialog
Save the file

Now the library 'Standard' is still part of the document, but with zero
modules the security message will not trigger.

best wishes,

//drew


 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash

2012-04-08 Thread Jonathan Schultz

Hi,

Thanks for all the feedback.

The good news for me is that uninstalling then reinstalling libreoffice 
3.4.6 from Debian/testing seems to have fixed things.



Ok, so if you have created parallel installs of LibreOffice
without using the guide then they might be interacting badly.


I don't think that was the issue. In each ease I uninstalled libreoffice 
before reinstalling, whether from the TDF archives or the Debian 
repository. That said, there are a lot of packages to install and 
uninstall and I didn't pay attention to each of them.



Frequent crashing usually indicates a bad version of java.  Java 6_21
seems to be the best for older versions of LibreOffice but i think
you need the 7_3 (or around there, most recent is best).


Do you actually *need* Java? Or should I say, do I actually need Java to 
use libreoffice for my purposes. In any case, I don't think my crashes 
are related to Java because disabling Java in libreoffice settings never 
made any difference.


Cheers,
Jonathan


--- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com  wrote:

From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re:
[libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To:
users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 6:35

Unfortunately I'm still not out of the woods.

The TDF version of LibreOffice isn't detected by bibus. Which means
no bibliography, which is pretty much a deal-breaker.

So I played with the debian/testing version again, and managed to get
it to not crash with my file by deleting my user profile. Then I
rebuilt the profile... and it started crashing again. And now if I
start again with a virgin profile, it still crashes.

I tried to look at the source for bibus (it's all in python) to work
out how it detects whether Libre/Open-Office is present, but don't
know enough about the LibreOffice API to know what I'm really looking
for.

So I still have a basically unusable system. :(

On 08/04/12 11:34, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :) Phew, i'm glad to hear you solved it.  Presumably you copied
the old User Profile to the new place to get your previous settings
and Extensions back?  You can always try the repo version another
time and then perhaps do a parallel install after that maybe.
Regards from Tom :)


--- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com   wrote:

From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re:
[libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11


You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't
mention it.  Can you download the TDF's official version instead
of using one from the repos?
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB


I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed
with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration
files in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all
looked good.

I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually
didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late.
I guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6?


Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm
instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable
3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2.


It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation.

Cheers, Jonathan






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash

2012-04-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Normally i wouldn't lump them together but you started it! lol.  They are both 
in the same family so there are often similarities but as you point out they 
aim at different markets.  

Good luck with sorting the issue.  I'm curious if just getting the latest java 
would fix it.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Mon, 9/4/12, Jonathan Schultz jonat...@imatix.com wrote:

From: Jonathan Schultz jonat...@imatix.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 9 April, 2012, 0:01

 Noob-friendly gateway distros such as Ubuntu/Debian family are
 great for starting out with GnuLinux but once you get into tweaking
 things yourself you might enjoy giving Arch or Slackware a try.

I know we all have our preferences for distros but I'm curious why you put 
Ubuntu and Debian in the same basket. Apart from the fact that Ubuntu is built 
on Debian they seem to be quite different and aimed at quite different users.

I recommend Ubuntu to friends and family who don't have the patience, 
motivation or experience to set things up manually. I use Debian and tweak it 
extensively. I like the fact that it's almost identical on i386 and arm 
architectures, the quality control is very high, and knowing it well helps me 
when I am called upon to fix broken Ubuntu installations.  I guess the 
attention to quality control and integration is why the Debian distro managers 
tend to tweak the upstream packages. Occasionally I download a package from an 
upstream distributor (like now!) but it rarely gives me much satisfaction.

Anyway about to investigate further what's breaking libreoffice for me.

Cheers,
Jonathan

 There are a lot of distros in between the 2 extremes.  Slackware
 usually tries to do the least amount of tweaking for most packages
 but apparently Arch has better documentation to help set the whole
 thing up.  If i went this route i would dual-boot with Ubuntu/Debian
 for a while by installing Arch or Slackware on a new partition.  I
 don't think i would go this route at all tho.  I prefer sticking with
 Ubuntu as articles appear in fairly mainstream media about it and i
 bump into people that are using it.

 Regards from Tom :)


 --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com  wrote:

 From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re:
 [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To:
 users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 5:26

 Presumably you copied the old User Profile to the new place to get
 your previous settings and Extensions back?

 Yes, did that and it worked fine. I also do some strange things like
 replace the dictionary files with symbolic links into my working
 directories so that they get shared and synchronised between my
 different devices.

 You can always try the repo version another time and then perhaps
 do a parallel install after that maybe.

 Since I noticed that the debian testing repository is allegedly the
 same version as TDF's (3.4.6-602) I tried using it but the problem
 came back. So I'll stick with TDF's version for now and wait for a
 new release.

 Cheers, Jonathan

 Regards
 from Tom :)


 --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com   wrote:

 From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com  Subject: Re:
 [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11

 You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't
 mention it.  Can you download the TDF's official version instead
 of using one from the repos?
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB

 I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed
 with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration
 files in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all
 looked good.

 I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually
 didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late.
 I guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6?

 Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm
 instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable
 3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2.

 It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation.

 Cheers, Jonathan





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Make a form that allows user to drag and drop in an image

2012-04-08 Thread avamk
Wonderful!!

I will download the file and study it further. Thank you again for your
continuous updates. I already know so much more than a few days ago.

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[libreoffice-users] how about 'recent documents?'

2012-04-08 Thread Rogier F. van Vlissingen
This feature has not been working for a while and version 3.5.2.2 brings no
relief either...

What's the status?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: GMane -- can't connect

2012-04-08 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Ken

Le 2012-04-08 10:43, Ken Springer a écrit :

On 4/8/12 6:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

It looks like there could be problems with GMane again. I can't seem to
connect to the NNTP server. It could be related to my version of
Thunderbird. I am using Thunderbird v.11.0.1

Is there anyone else having the same problems to confirm?

Cheers,

Marc



Just read your post via Gmane, and replying using Gmane.



I use Thunderbird as my newsreader. Up until yesterday, I was connecting 
without any problems.


Marc

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[libreoffice-users] [SOLVED] Re: GMane -- can't connect

2012-04-08 Thread Marc Pare

Le 2012-04-08 08:26, Marc Paré a écrit :

It looks like there could be problems with GMane again. I can't seem to
connect to the NNTP server. It could be related to my version of
Thunderbird. I am using Thunderbird v.11.0.1

Is there anyone else having the same problems to confirm?

Cheers,

Marc



It was a mix-up with my ISP. It's fixed now. :-)

Marc

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