[libreoffice-users] calc cells spacing to contents not working as it should

2012-10-04 Thread hormuzd Irani
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29.jpg
 
After typing content inside cells and changing spacing to contents under
format cells and border (tab), the size of the cell increased if the
synchronise check-box was checked, and the contents of the cells were
repositioned inside the cell as shown above.

after saving and opening the file the cell size remains enlarged but the
contents of the cell are positioned as if no change was made: Format cells
- border -spacing to contents 
all setting retain default spacing of 2.0pt
as shown below in image
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29after_saving.jpg
 

if synchronise check-box was unchecked and only right value was changed, the
cell size remained unchanged but the contents of the cell were repositioned 
as shown below:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29-2.jpg
 

after saving the file (synchronise unchecked), and opening it the contents
showed up as if no formatting was done using: format cell - border -
spacing to contents

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29_-_2_after_saving.jpg
 

I am using libreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) under windows XP
is it a bug ??
should i post this as a bug ??
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] calc cells spacing to contents not working as it should

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I would post it as a bug-report but make it clear that it's the xls format that 
is affected.  Actually the screen-shots show it's xls if you look up at the 
title-bar in the screen-shots.  The taskbar at the bottom shows it's running on 
Xp.  

It would be interesting to know if you get the same results using the native 
format, .ods for spreadsheets.  

Gimp or something could be used to edit the image to crop out bits you don't 
want to pass on but actually you seem to have quite a nice layout and nothing 
embarrassing open and showing in the taskbar.  I found it awkward to take 
screen-shots in Windows.  In most GnuLinux you just press the PrtScn button 
and doing that gives a Save As ... type dialogue-box offering to save a Png 
in your Pictures folder.  No messing around pasting the copied picture into 
Paint or something.  

Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: hormuzd Irani hormuzdir...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 10:45
Subject: [libreoffice-users] calc cells spacing to contents not working as it 
should
 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29.jpg
 
After typing content inside cells and changing spacing to contents under
format cells and border (tab), the size of the cell increased if the
synchronise check-box was checked, and the contents of the cells were
repositioned inside the cell as shown above.

after saving and opening the file the cell size remains enlarged but the
contents of the cell are positioned as if no change was made: Format cells
- border -spacing to contents 
all setting retain default spacing of 2.0pt
as shown below in image
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29after_saving.jpg
 

if synchronise check-box was unchecked and only right value was changed, the
cell size remained unchanged but the contents of the cell were repositioned 
as shown below:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29-2.jpg
 

after saving the file (synchronise unchecked), and opening it the contents
showed up as if no formatting was done using: format cell - border -
spacing to contents

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4010934/calc_cell_padding_%28spacing_to_contents_under_borders%29_-_2_after_saving.jpg
 

I am using libreOffice Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512) under windows XP
is it a bug ??
should i post this as a bug ??




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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
As well as existing guides by Andrew Pitonyak and others.

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Have you tried with a recent release of LibO? 3.4.6 is pretty old

It's the current release from the Fedora repo.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update SQL does nothing using Run SQL directly button

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
And, as a stylistic suggestion, don't use a separate field for 
transaction year, calculate it from transaction date.  The reason is 
that you've created a new classs of issue for yourself by doing this, 
keeping two fields in step.

In general it's best to store basic data and calculate subsidiary 
data from it, don't store subsidiary data.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks for that Steve.

It looks like this is saying that OO/LO needs a specific template for a 
specific input, is that the case?
I hope not, XML is supposed to be a self defining file format surely?  A 
general importer ought to be easy, no?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes, but LO develops so fast that even a version just a couple of months old is 
'ancient'.  

I think it would be nice to see an LTS that has all security and bug-fixes 
back-ported to it so that people could stick to one version for a year or more 
rather than having to re-install every month or so.  Unfortunately the BoD are 
fairly committed to making sure we don't get one.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk
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Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 11:29
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?
 
 Have you tried with a recent release of LibO? 3.4.6 is pretty old

It's the current release from the Fedora repo.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Some 3rd party guides can be found listed on the LO Publications page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Base
but i agree with Dan that the Getting Started chapter about Base, the first 2 
chapters of the official guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide
 
and the Faq 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
are probably the best places to start.  

I think the  guide that you are thinking of, by Andrew Pitonyak, is his 
excellent macro guide?  I'm not sure he has done one for Base but if he has and 
if we haven't listed it then it would be excellent to add or if there are other 
guides by other people then they might be good to add too.  Some 3rd party 
guides cost money and/or if you want to buy the official LO guides in printed 
form then they can be bought from Lulu (as linked to from the Publications 
page).  

Regards from
Tom :)  






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As well as existing guides by Andrew Pitonyak and others.

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update SQL does nothing using Run SQL directly button

2012-10-04 Thread Jay Lozier
On 10/04/2012 06:29 AM, Mark Stanton wrote:
 And, as a stylistic suggestion, don't use a separate field for 
 transaction year, calculate it from transaction date.  The reason is 
 that you've created a new classs of issue for yourself by doing this, 
 keeping two fields in step.

 In general it's best to store basic data and calculate subsidiary 
 data from it, don't store subsidiary data.

 Regards
 Mark Stanton
 One small step for mankind...



The function is Year(name) = year. For best results store the date in 
-mm-dd format,

Typical use is

Selectcolumn list
From  table list
WhereYear(column) =  AND month = mm

There are other date/time functions available.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] errors in file translation

2012-10-04 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 10/03/2012 03:48 PM, Roland Graham wrote:

Please read the attached file in both Excel and Libre Office. The (what
I assume are) hard coded integers in the cells are coming out with
grossly inflated values, almost 10 time as big as they are in Excel.

I am using a Ubuntu supplied version 3.5.4.2 BuildID:350m1(Build:2).

Thanks,
Roland Graham


Sorry, but there is no ability to attach files with this list.

Which Ubuntu?  10.xx, 11.xx, 12.04?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Andreas Säger
The ultimate guide by Mariano Casanova:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48635562/Base-Tutorial-OOo



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Andreas Säger
Mark Stanton wrote
 I hope not, XML is supposed to be a self defining file format surely?

It's a meta-file format. You (who defines all the XML tags) are the one and
only person able to develop import and export software for your particular
flavour of XML.

xml
BLAH foo=bar
blub x=121.43/blub
scramble crucifix=Trueertzuiopdfghjklöxcvbnm/scramble
/BLAH
/xml
How would you translate this into a spreadsheet? Is BLAH a row, a column?
What is scramble? How to deal with the attributes?

Nobody ever tells us anything about his/her user-defined file formats such
as CSV or XML. So most of the topics becaome lengthy and some remain
unsolved.

   A general importer ought to be easy, no?

 Google reveals plenty of examples about how to write XLST scritpts to
import/export user-defined XML formats into/from ODF. This is development
work just like writing macros or setting up a database.
In all those years since OOo 1.0 nobody wrote a generic XML-to-Calc tool. I
would search in the database world for existing XML tools for database
engines. Once you have the data in a connectable database, you have it it in
Calc and Writer as well.



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[libreoffice-users] Can someone on OS X verify a writer bug? (bugzilla-link inside)

2012-10-04 Thread SteveBell
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53924

Very annoying bug. Testing document is in the ticket. Would be great if
someone could verify and confirm the bug.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: errors in file translation

2012-10-04 Thread Tom
Hi :)  
Errr you can upload files to Nabble of course.  Just use the links in this
email or navigate to Nabble from the official LO website, something like
Get Help - Nabble
and then navigate through to the right thread.  Most recent thread replied
to tends to bubble-up to the top of the list.  

Just reply to a post in the right thread and then click the More button.  

E, i always make this sound much more complicated than it really is. 
Really it's just a couple of obvious clicks.  I can make opening a door
sound complicated too by going into too much detail.
Regards from
Tom :)  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Dan Lewis

On 10/04/2012 06:29 AM, Mark Stanton wrote:

As well as existing guides by Andrew Pitonyak and others.

Mark
 Could we have some links for the locations for these please. I 
personally would like to have a list of these resources for personal 
references. Perhaps others would also.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


I think one of the guys who is writing the Base documentation for 
OpenOffice, and converting it to LO, is a very busy person and it is 
taking him a lot of time to do the work for OpenOffice and does not have 
as much time to convert each finished chapter to LO.  It also takes 
other people to look over the work and proofread and test out what is 
stated.  There seems not to be enough Base people who are able/willing 
to help with this hard process.


It seems that Draw and Base are the two more difficult modules to 
write guides for, with Base being the hardest.


Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use 
Base?  Then ask the same for Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, and then 
Math.  I rarely use anything other than Writer or Calc, for LO's suite.


On 10/04/2012 09:01 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks :)  I just added it to the list in the Publications page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Base
Regards from
Tom :)








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The ultimate guide by Mariano Casanova:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48635562/Base-Tutorial-OOo



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[libreoffice-users] Opening hybrid pdf in LO 3.6.0.2 results in gibberish

2012-10-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
I downloaded the hybrid pdf from here 
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/07/17/libreoffice-infographics/ 
and tried to open in LO as it said at the bottom of the page. All I get 
is a load of gibberish.

The hybrid pdf opens OK in a PDF reader
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening hybrid pdf in LO 3.6.0.2 results in gibberish

2012-10-04 Thread John Clegg
I did exactly what it says - ie downloaded it, then ran LO and did File
Open and selected the downloaded file. It opened in Draw and was all there
and legible. LO 3.6.1 on Win7

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, I'll put it on the list.

Visual FoxPro (for example) has a built in function, XMLTOCURSOR, 
which takes a string or filename and produces a table.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use 
 Base?

Whilst there is some quite valid criticism of Base, I don't think answering 
this question says as much about Base as it does about the general usage
of databases.  They are less familiar than word processors, spreadsheets or 
drawing packages.

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Ken Brucker
thanks to all for your answers and consideration

K

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Jay Lozier
On 10/04/2012 11:04 AM, Mark Stanton wrote:
 Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use 
 Base?
 Whilst there is some quite valid criticism of Base, I don't think answering 
 this question says as much about Base as it does about the general usage
 of databases.  They are less familiar than word processors, spreadsheets or 
 drawing packages.

 Mark



I use databases at work, primarily MS SQL Server. My observation is to
be good at using databases (Base included) takes more time and effort up
front than most realize. Most people have a very rudimentary
understanding, if any, of databases. Often, they think of and use
spreadsheets as databases, which only works at a very rudimentary and
simple level (table of contact information for mailing list generation).
Any marginally more sophisticated use and spreadsheets fail as databases.

Database design is less obvious to most. I think most people do not
understand that databases are a type of model of the real world. The
accuracy of the model for the user's needs is what is important and this
not always easy to determine or model.

Beyond the conceptual problems with databases, they use a querying
language. Most (all?) relational databases like Base use a variant of
SQL. So to move beyond the wizards and have more control and
understanding one eventually needs to learn some SQL, another level
learning with more time and effort.

Word processors, spreadsheets, presentation packages, drawing packages,
etc. conceptually tend to follow how one would do the task manually.
Fundamentally, writing a document in Write at its most basic level is a
much nicer way of typing it than on typewriter. Because the program can
do more than just display the text, such spell check, auto format, auto
number lists, etc., the program adds considerable value beyond simply
typing. The early word processing programs had one feature that
typewriter could never do; save the document for later editing without
have to retype it in part or in entirety.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Joel Madero
I'm only catching bits and pieces of this conversation but if someone is
interested in doing documentation on base I'd recommend joining the
documentation mailing list. I'm sure they could use some help :)


Regards,
Joel

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/04/2012 11:04 AM, Mark Stanton wrote:
  Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use
  Base?
  Whilst there is some quite valid criticism of Base, I don't think
 answering
  this question says as much about Base as it does about the general usage
  of databases.  They are less familiar than word processors, spreadsheets
 or
  drawing packages.
 
  Mark
 
 
 
 I use databases at work, primarily MS SQL Server. My observation is to
 be good at using databases (Base included) takes more time and effort up
 front than most realize. Most people have a very rudimentary
 understanding, if any, of databases. Often, they think of and use
 spreadsheets as databases, which only works at a very rudimentary and
 simple level (table of contact information for mailing list generation).
 Any marginally more sophisticated use and spreadsheets fail as databases.

 Database design is less obvious to most. I think most people do not
 understand that databases are a type of model of the real world. The
 accuracy of the model for the user's needs is what is important and this
 not always easy to determine or model.

 Beyond the conceptual problems with databases, they use a querying
 language. Most (all?) relational databases like Base use a variant of
 SQL. So to move beyond the wizards and have more control and
 understanding one eventually needs to learn some SQL, another level
 learning with more time and effort.

 Word processors, spreadsheets, presentation packages, drawing packages,
 etc. conceptually tend to follow how one would do the task manually.
 Fundamentally, writing a document in Write at its most basic level is a
 much nicer way of typing it than on typewriter. Because the program can
 do more than just display the text, such spell check, auto format, auto
 number lists, etc., the program adds considerable value beyond simply
 typing. The early word processing programs had one feature that
 typewriter could never do; save the document for later editing without
 have to retype it in part or in entirety.

 --
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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
i think the point was that if more people use a thing then more people care 
about how well it works.  

If we start with the premise that only a fraction of people that use a thing 
are likely to be involved with fixing it (or even just reporting a problem) 
then it helps to have more people using it because that may lead to more people 
being involved in fixing it.  

Once you start adding in extra factors such as average skill level of the 
different users of the different apps then Base is still heavily out-gunned by 
Writer and Calc.  I kinda disagree about Draw tho.  I think Impress needs a lot 
more help than Draw.  Draw has some quite fancy features and i've been really 
happy using on the rare occasions i've needed something other than Gimp.  
Impress is embarrasing.  Base is more important than either of those imo but 
gets a LOT less attention, except on this list 'recently'.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 16:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base
 
 Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use 
 Base?

Whilst there is some quite valid criticism of Base, I don't think answering 
this question says as much about Base as it does about the general usage
of databases.  They are less familiar than word processors, spreadsheets or 
drawing packages.

Mark



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[libreoffice-users] loadComponentfromUrl

2012-10-04 Thread Walther Koehler
Hi,

When I open a document in writer (by menu/open or recently used or new), it 
opens a frame with full window size. bingo.

When I open the same document via a basic makro using
loadComponentfromUrl(sURL, _blank, 0, args())
it opens in a frame maximised vertically but not horizontally.

All further open commands (menu/open AND basic) give the same reduced window 
frame. I assume that somehow an internal variable has been changed by the 
loadComponentfromUrl command.

of course I fiddled around with the parameters/args() of loadComponentfromURL 
and the KDE windows configuration, does _blank start a new (wrong) parent 
frame?, never Problem up to 3.4.

Any idea?

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Wolfgang Keller
 Is there any documentation for LibreOffice Base?

In german language, yes.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/06_BH_Gesamtband_V35_einseitig.pdf

It's probably in the process of being translated.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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[libreoffice-users] Help in LibreOffice 3.5.6

2012-10-04 Thread Eliane Domingos de Sousa
Hi all,

I have a situation under LibreOffice 3.5.6 with a dialog that has several
steps. In the LibreOffice IDE, I see only the last page of the dialog.

The module that invokes the dialog uses the property Step as

oDialog.Model.Step = 1 ' (...2,...3, or whatever page number)

How do I edit the dialog pages in the IDE? . Is there a trick to see all
the dialog pages? If not how do I change them?
Thank you

Eliane Domingos

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Andreas Säger
FoxPro export exports database fields like this:
?xml version=1.0?Document  OrderUpdate
OrderId12345/OrderId
OrderDate01/01/2004/OrderDate
Confirmation123/Confirmation
Storage
  StorageId01/StorageId
  Quantity1450/Quantity
/Storage
Storage
  StorageId02/StorageId
  Quantity2480/Quantity
/Storage
  /OrderUpdate
/Document
It might be comparatively easy to write a Base driver for structures like
this one. A spreadsheet does not imply any such structure.

As far as I know, Excel imports arbitrary flavours of tabular XML through a
wizard analog to a CSV import wizard. You specify the column tags, the row
tags and get raw data in a spreadsheet.
In the following example each record represents one consecutive
spreadsheet row (starting at row#1) and each value represents a
consecutive column value within that row (starting at column A). First row
has column labels.
xml
record
 value type=StringID/value
 value typ=StringOrder Date/value
 value typ=StringValue/value
/record
record
 value type=Number13/value
 value type=Date2010-12-28/value
 value type=StringSome Text/value
/record
record
 value type=Number14/value
 value type=Date2010-12-31/value
 value type=StringSome Other Text/value
/record
/xml

This one represents the very same data in German tags:
xml
zeile
 wert typ=ZeichenID/wert
 wert typ=ZeichenOrder Date/wert
 wert typ=ZeichenValue/wert
/zeile
zeile
 wert typ=Zahl13/wert
 wert typ=Datum2010-12-28/wert
 wert typ=ZeichenSome Text/wert
/zeile
zeile
 wert typ=Zahl14/wert
 wert typ=Datum2010-12-31/wert
 wert typ=ZeichenSome Other Text/wert
/zeile
/xml

Other flavours of xml may describe rows within columns, railway connections
in time tables, articles and clients in invoices, ... Any tool to import
arbitrary XML into sheets needs to import text, numbers, special numbers
and blanks into columns and rows even if there is no rectangular structure
of records and fields.
If there is a database structure (like the above FoxPro XML) it needs to
import each value (number, text, date, blank) under its given field name.

Most people who ask for XML import into Calc mean the XML flavour produced
by Excel 2003. But they do not know that this particular flavour of XML is
specifically made for that particular application. Other applications to
read Excel-XML can be written easily but they need to be written. XML is not
a file format on its own right. XML lets you define your own file formats.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening hybrid pdf in LO 3.6.0.2 results in gibberish

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Did work for me on Win Xp Sp3, LO 3.5.4

Not working on Ubuntu 12.04, LO 3.5.4 = asks for Utf encoding and defaults to 8 
and guesses at font = Times New Roman.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening hybrid pdf in LO 3.6.0.2 results in 
gibberish
 
I did exactly what it says - ie downloaded it, then ran LO and did File
Open and selected the downloaded file. It opened in Draw and was all there
and legible. LO 3.6.1 on Win7

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  tried to open in LO as it said at the bottom of the page. All I get is
 a load of gibberish.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] loadComponentfromUrl

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Hopefully someone more experienced will give a decent answer but until then it 
might be worth acquiring Andrew Pitonyak's Macro Guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Programmers

There are a few chapters and things in official documentation (and therefore 
free) but i suspect you have already gone through those.  
Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 17:42
Subject: [libreoffice-users] loadComponentfromUrl
 
Hi,

When I open a document in writer (by menu/open or recently used or new), it 
opens a frame with full window size. bingo.

When I open the same document via a basic makro using
loadComponentfromUrl(sURL, _blank, 0, args())
it opens in a frame maximised vertically but not horizontally.

All further open commands (menu/open AND basic) give the same reduced window 
frame. I assume that somehow an internal variable has been changed by the 
loadComponentfromUrl command.

of course I fiddled around with the parameters/args() of loadComponentfromURL 
and the KDE windows configuration, does _blank start a new (wrong) parent 
frame?, never Problem up to 3.4.

Any idea?

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Extracting info from calc cell

2012-10-04 Thread Dan Lewis

On 10/04/2012 02:23 PM, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:

Have a huge users list with the form 'lastname', 'middle-name'
'first-name'. I need to extract initials and I can't figure out how
to do that.
Following the example, expected result should be mflastname
Any clue?
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 If the first three columns (A-C) are 'lastname' (A), 
'middle-name'(B), and 'first-name(C) and column D contains that the 
initials plus the last name, the equation for this is: =CONCATENATE( 
LEFT(B1),LEFT(C1),A1).


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Extracting info from calc cell

2012-10-04 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
 Have a huge users list with the form 'lastname', 'middle-name'
 'first-name'. I need to extract initials and I can't figure out how
 to do that.
 Following the example, expected result should be mflastname
 Any clue?

 If the first three columns (A-C) are 'lastname' (A), 'middle-name'(B),
 and 'first-name(C) and column D contains that the initials plus the last
 name, the equation for this is: =CONCATENATE( LEFT(B1),LEFT(C1),A1).


that's why I love LibO, things are easier than what we can see some users



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ZOOM: strange or bug??

2012-10-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Did this ever get solved?  It took me so long to work out what the problem was 
that i didn't even notice whether a decent answer solved it in the end!
Apols and regards from
Tom :)  







 From: manuel_songo...@yahoo.it manuel_songo...@yahoo.it
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Cc: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012, 16:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ZOOM: strange or bug??
 
I wanted to say this:
normally, when you go near zoom horizontal bar on the bottom of the screen 
with the arrow of your mouse, without clicking on it, it does nothing.
In my situation, it is sufficient to go near horizontal bar and commands 
behave as if i'm clicking and moving it on the left or right side, but I'm 
absolutely not requesting the function in that moment.
Is as if the function is activated all the times I interact with the 
horizontal bar, but without clicking on it.
How can I solve the problem?
My doubt is that it is specifically associated to touch-screen monitor 
features. So, perhaps I need to (de)activate some hidden option?






Da: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
A: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Inviato: Sabato 29 Settembre 2012 14:41
Oggetto: [libreoffice-users] Re: ZOOM: strange or bug??

Hi :)
Ok, so you are using LO 3.5.4(?) definitely 3.5.something on openSUSE.  

I'm not sure how to record your desktop on openSUSE, it's probably the same
way i would do it on Ubuntu but i don't know that either.  

I'm still not clear what the problem is.  
1.  Is it that when you move the mouse arrow over the screen it gets stuck
over the zoom controls at the bottom right of the screen?  or does it move
away from there but stay stuck with the same controls?  Is the problem that
once you start zooming then you can't do anything except zoom?

2.  Is it that the zoom goes rapidly from minimum to max or vice-versa
without allowing you to just zoom in (or out) just a small amount?

Regards from
Tom :)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Writer] Data to Fields is not working

2012-10-04 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
Dan, 

Thanks for your reply.

On 04/10/2012 at 01:50, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

   You need to use both Data to Text and Data to Fields buttons
 for the later to work.
 
 1. Open new Writer document
 2. Press F4 (or View ? Data Sources)
 3. Select bibliography table biblio
 4. Press left-most cell of any row to select entire row (without this step
 Data to Text nor Data to Fields button is not clickable).
 5. Click the Data to Text button to select what will be copied from the
 selected row in the Data Sources window to the text documents. 6. A dialog
 opens giving three choices: paste the data in table format, as fields, or
 as text. The first and third choices are result in text being pasted. 7.
 The Data to Fields button works only if you have selected Fields in
 the dialog. To change the data showing in the fields in the text document,
 select another row. Then click this button.
 
   In other words, you have to use Data to Text button to create the
 fields before you can put any other data in these fields using the Data
 to Text button.

I am afraid it still does not work as described.
When I click Data to Text, new window appears. I check Fields and then 
move (using arrow button) field from left column to right one. When I click 
OK, this window disappears, but field appears right in my document. Clicking 
Data to Fields still does not do anything visible.

What version of LO are you using? It might be that mine is buggy or your 
outdated and that's why we see different behaviors.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2012-10-05 02:22, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 10/04/2012 08:11 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Mark Stanton wrote

I hope not, XML is supposed to be a self defining file format surely?

It's a meta-file format. You (who defines all the XML tags) are the one and
only person able to develop import and export software for your particular
flavour of XML.

xml
BLAH foo=bar
blub x=121.43/blub
scramble crucifix=Trueertzuiopdfghjklöxcvbnm/scramble
/BLAH
/xml
How would you translate this into a spreadsheet? Is BLAH a row, a column?
What is scramble? How to deal with the attributes?

Nobody ever tells us anything about his/her user-defined file formats such
as CSV or XML. So most of the topics becaome lengthy and some remain
unsolved.


   A general importer ought to be easy, no?

  Google reveals plenty of examples about how to write XLST scritpts to
import/export user-defined XML formats into/from ODF. This is development
work just like writing macros or setting up a database.
In all those years since OOo 1.0 nobody wrote a generic XML-to-Calc tool. I
would search in the database world for existing XML tools for database
engines. Once you have the data in a connectable database, you have it it in
Calc and Writer as well.



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Andreas,

My understanding the problem with importing a generic XML file is that
the document definition does not a (defacto) standard that one can
write an import script for? If the XML file uses a known definition (ODF
for example) then it is easier to write an import script because there
is a standard defining the document internals.

The extension of this is, if the file format is well documented, even if
it is proprietary, then writing an import script is possible because
there exists a specification for the format. The only issue then is
whether one has the complete format specification.

Some of the XML files I import have nested lists, i.e not flat. I like 
to define how these are imported.
The file also has a lot of fields I don't want imported (not shown). So 
by using a filter I get what I want displayed how I want.


?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
customers type=array
  customer
saltc9bf86ac97d3f742f85e9811d338a594af727dbc/salt
updated-at type=datetime2010-02-16T17:03:57-05:00/updated-at
valid-access-count type=integer0/valid-access-count
customer-visibility-groups type=array
  customer-visibility-group
id type=integer10/id
nameAll Customers/name
the-parent-record-id type=NilClass1/the-parent-record-id
  /customer-visibility-group
  customer-visibility-group
id type=integer11/id
nameOIML customers/name
the-parent-record-id type=NilClass1/the-parent-record-id
  /customer-visibility-group
  customer-visibility-group
id type=integer258/id
nameAE-United Arab Emirates/name
the-parent-record-id type=NilClass1/the-parent-record-id
  /customer-visibility-group
  customer-visibility-group
id type=integer21/id
nameMNA-Middle East amp; N Africa/name
the-parent-record-id type=NilClass1/the-parent-record-id
  /customer-visibility-group
/customer-visibility-groups
  /customer
/customers

Steve

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[libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

2012-10-04 Thread anne-ology
   Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
follow these steps -
   but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
   Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(

   After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
   a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.

   When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was some
joke;
   I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
explanation to this;
  I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed on
that log-in page  ;-)




From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Triaging
To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com


   I've been attempting to sign in -
  clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various problems:
  the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
answering some math question -
 I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
located the problem nor the blank to fill in???

   I don't understand.




On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
 appreciate the help :)

 I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:

 1. Go here,
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order,
 and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see who is
 volunteering

 2. Go here,
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1,
 pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our biggest
 project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog of
 about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.

 I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your sheet
 gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully be
 doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start whenever you
 have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or add
 me on gchat/skype/etc...

 Thanks again,
 Joel


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[libreoffice-users] help needed ...

2012-10-04 Thread anne-ology
   ... how were you able to log-in and get your names posted on that
list?
   what am I doing wrong?



From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Subject: query re. volunteering w/ LO
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: Joel jmadero@gmail.com


   Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
follow these steps -
   but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
   Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(

   After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
   a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.

   When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was some
joke;
   I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
explanation to this;
  I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed on
that log-in page  ;-)




From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Triaging
To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com


   I've been attempting to sign in -
  clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various problems:
  the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
answering some math question -
 I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
located the problem nor the blank to fill in???

   I don't understand.




On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
 appreciate the help :)

 I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:

 1. Go here,
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order,
 and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see who is
 volunteering

 2. Go here,
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1,
 pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our biggest
 project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog of
 about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.

 I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your sheet
 gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully be
 doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start whenever you
 have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or add
 me on gchat/skype/etc...

 Thanks again,
 Joel


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Writer] Data to Fields is not working

2012-10-04 Thread Andreas Säger
You can not do anything useful with a blank new document.

1. Open your letter template with fields.
2. Hit F4 and get your row set (query or table)
3. Click a grey row selector left of the first column to select the record
that represents the receipient of your letter.
4. Click data-to-fields which fills out the fields with actual data.
5. Print and deny printing a serial letter.




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[libreoffice-users] attempting to find an answer and instead ...

2012-10-04 Thread anne-ology
   ... merely receive this  :-(

   I don't believe I deserve to be ignored ... nor to be abused -
   therefore I think this list should be made aware of this
person's behaviour -
   because if he's treating me in this manner, I'm sure others have
received and/or will be receiving this same treatment?

   BTW - just what is a ping???




On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

I'm sorry but this is completely inappropriate. An email directly to me
 would have been much better. I've tried to figure out what the problem is
 and as I have mentioned, I work full time and am getting ready for law
 school, I also do about 10 other things for LibO so my time is stretched. I
 honestly have no idea what the problem is, every other volunteer has had no
 problem following the instructions. You specifically told you I couldn't
 figure out what you were facing, a screenshot, or something, would have
 been a helpful thing to give me. Furthermore, you could have sent me a ping
 to ask if there was an update.

 A few of the things in the email that particulary were not written well.
 This Joel, you didn't say that I EXPLAINED that I am incredibly busy,
 that I emailed the list as a joke or a ruse also isn't okay.

 Regards,
 Joel


 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:43 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
 follow these steps -
but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
 which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
 error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(

After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
 wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
 received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.

When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
 I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was some
 joke;
I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
 explanation to this;
   I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed
 on that log-in page  ;-)




 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Triaging
 To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com


I've been attempting to sign in -
   clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
 problems:
   the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
 answering some math question -
  I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
 located the problem nor the blank to fill in???

I don't understand.




 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
 appreciate the help :)

 I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:

 1. Go here,
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order,
 and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see who is
 volunteering

 2. Go here,
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1,
 pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our biggest
 project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog of
 about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.

 I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your sheet
 gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully be
 doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start whenever you
 have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or add
 me on gchat/skype/etc...

 Thanks again,
 Joel




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Re: [libreoffice-users] attempting to find an answer and instead ...

2012-10-04 Thread Joel Madero
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:09 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

... merely receive this  :-(

I don't believe I deserve to be ignored ... nor to be abused -
therefore I think this list should be made aware of this
 person's behaviour -
because if he's treating me in this manner, I'm sure others have
 received and/or will be receiving this same treatment?

BTW - just what is a ping???



Again not appropriate and you'll find a hard time getting involved with ANY
open source project if you make clearly private messages public. I
apologize that you are struggling so much with getting a wiki account BUT
there are generally accepted ways of going about communicating and one of
those is not making private conversations public. Since you went ahead and
did so I'll keep it public so that you aren't spamming users with my
personal replies.

A ping is just a quick email (or IRC message, etc...) that says hey, any
updates, some users even just say ping in IRC basically saying hey, you
around?


I hope you find the assistance you need from another user and or volunteer.


Regards,
Joel






 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sorry but this is completely inappropriate. An email directly to me
  would have been much better. I've tried to figure out what the problem is
  and as I have mentioned, I work full time and am getting ready for law
  school, I also do about 10 other things for LibO so my time is
 stretched. I
  honestly have no idea what the problem is, every other volunteer has had
 no
  problem following the instructions. You specifically told you I couldn't
  figure out what you were facing, a screenshot, or something, would have
  been a helpful thing to give me. Furthermore, you could have sent me a
 ping
  to ask if there was an update.
 
  A few of the things in the email that particulary were not written well.
  This Joel, you didn't say that I EXPLAINED that I am incredibly busy,
  that I emailed the list as a joke or a ruse also isn't okay.
 
  Regards,
  Joel
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:43 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
  follow these steps -
 but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
  which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
 Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
  error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(
 
 After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
  wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
 a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
  received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.
 
 When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
  I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was
 some
  joke;
 I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
  explanation to this;
I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed
  on that log-in page  ;-)
 
 
 
 
  From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
  Subject: Re: Triaging
  To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 
 
 I've been attempting to sign in -
clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
  problems:
the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
  answering some math question -
   I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
  located the problem nor the blank to fill in???
 
 I don't understand.
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
  appreciate the help :)
 
  I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:
 
  1. Go here,
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order
 ,
  and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see
 who is
  volunteering
 
  2. Go here,
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1
 ,
  pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
 biggest
  project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog
 of
  about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.
 
  I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your
 sheet
  gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully
 be
  doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start
 whenever you
  have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or
 add
  me on gchat/skype/etc...
 
  Thanks again,
  Joel
 
 
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Writer] Data to Fields is not working

2012-10-04 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
Andreas,

On 04/10/2012 at 23:08, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 1. Open your letter template with fields.

What fields do you refer to? How do I place them?

I know I can place fields from database using Insert → Fields → Other → 
Database → Mail merge fields.

But after placing these fields I can open Mail merge and go directly to last 
step and generate final document. So, Mail merge will be able to use these 
fields without ever clicking Data to Fields button, which purpose I am 
failing to understand. 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] MS renting office products

2012-10-04 Thread anne-ology
   Exactly.

   But for some reason, common sense seems to be dead; and with it
disappeared learning from the past  ;-(

   With hope, maybe folks will listen to your well-phrased message  ;-)



On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Tim Deaton t...@timdeaton.org wrote:

I don't think we need to remove existing features.  But I DO think we need
 to focus on the 90% of average users.  Basically, I think LO should be
 making sure it can do everything that MS Office 97 (15-year-old software)
 could do, and do it just as well and just as easily.  If LO could do THAT,
 it would eat Microsoft's lunch.

 -- Tim Deaton
 ===


 On 10/2/2012 2:45 AM, Marcello Romani wrote:

 Il 24/09/2012 17:15, Mirosław Zalewski ha scritto:

 On 24/09/2012 at 16:48, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com
 wrote:

We need to keep it with the
 needed options for the 90% average users and not for those that are in
 the last 10% or even those in the last 1% or less users that do so
 complex work that the average user could not figure out why this is
 being done or even how to do such a thing even with the needed
 documentation.


 I totally disagree.

 If user is unable to do something he wants with open documentation, then
 this
 is documentation fault. It should be fixed (made clear, verbose, use
 screenshots or anything), not feature should be disabled.

 There are many ways to speed up opening of programs. Some features may be
 delayed or loaded on request. Application can be modularized - core
 features
 are loaded by default, other are loaded only if user wants them (take a
 look
 at LaTeX, GNU R, Miranda (instant messenger), even Mozilla Firefox to
 some
 avail).

 *Removing* features is total no-go, because it will drive away these
 users who
 need them. And I don't think that LO is application only for 90% of it's
 current users.


 As much as I hate me too! e-mails...

 ;P



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Andreas Säger
MySQL can import your customer-visibility-groups:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/load-xml.html

If there is any reason why you want customer-visibility-groups in a
calculator software, connect a registerd Base document to your MySQL server
and dump the imported data from the data source pane into a sheet which
creates a refreshable link.

XSLT and ODF office suites:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-oocalc/
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-xsltopenoff/index.html [9
pages]

There are various topics on the OOo forums:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=67906
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3490f=45



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Re: [libreoffice-users] attempting to find an answer and instead ...

2012-10-04 Thread Girvin R. Herr



Joel Madero wrote:
snip


A ping is just a quick email (or IRC message, etc...) that says hey, any
updates, some users even just say ping in IRC basically saying hey, you
around?

  

snip
Joel,
ping, another overloaded word:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping

But those of us in the computer networking field assume:

   Ping, a computer network tool used to test whether a particular host
   is reachable across an IP network

Colloquially, it is used as you define it - to send a quick message to 
someone to see what's going on in their life. As in
I haven't heard from him for a while - I'm going to ping him to see 
what he's up to.

Girvin Herr


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Re: [libreoffice-users] help needed ...

2012-10-04 Thread Mas
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

... how were you able to log-in and get your names posted on that
 list?
what am I doing wrong?



 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM
 Subject: query re. volunteering w/ LO
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Cc: Joel jmadero@gmail.com


Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
 follow these steps -
but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
 which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
 error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(

After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
 wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
 received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.

When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
 I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was some
 joke;
I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
 explanation to this;
   I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed on
 that log-in page  ;-)




 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Triaging
 To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com


I've been attempting to sign in -
   clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various problems:
   the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
 answering some math question -
  I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
 located the problem nor the blank to fill in???

I don't understand.




 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
  appreciate the help :)
 
  I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:
 
  1. Go here,
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order
 ,
  and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see who
 is
  volunteering
 
  2. Go here,
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1
 ,
  pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
 biggest
  project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog of
  about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.
 
  I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your sheet
  gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully be
  doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start whenever
 you
  have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or
 add
  me on gchat/skype/etc...
 
  Thanks again,
  Joel
 



You will need to sign into the wiki and add your name to the list on the
page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order

Once you have done this , please open the Google Docs spreadsheet and
select a tab to add your name to it. I recommend using Google Chrome to
access the google docs page

hope this helps

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Writer] Data to Fields is not working

2012-10-04 Thread Dan Lewis

On 10/04/2012 03:55 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

Dan,

Thanks for your reply.

On 04/10/2012 at 01:50, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:


   You need to use both Data to Text and Data to Fields buttons
for the later to work.

1. Open new Writer document
2. Press F4 (or View ? Data Sources)
3. Select bibliography table biblio
4. Press left-most cell of any row to select entire row (without this step
Data to Text nor Data to Fields button is not clickable).
5. Click the Data to Text button to select what will be copied from the
selected row in the Data Sources window to the text documents. 6. A dialog
opens giving three choices: paste the data in table format, as fields, or
as text. The first and third choices are result in text being pasted. 7.
The Data to Fields button works only if you have selected Fields in
the dialog. To change the data showing in the fields in the text document,
select another row. Then click this button.

   In other words, you have to use Data to Text button to create the
fields before you can put any other data in these fields using the Data
to Text button.

I am afraid it still does not work as described.
When I click Data to Text, new window appears. I check Fields and then
move (using arrow button) field from left column to right one. When I click
OK, this window disappears, but field appears right in my document. Clicking
Data to Fields still does not do anything visible.

What version of LO are you using? It might be that mine is buggy or your
outdated and that's why we see different behaviors.
Question: Did you click a different row to highlight the whole row 
before clicking Data to Text button? (Click the rectangle at the left 
end of the row.) Unless you select another row, you will see no changes. 
Step 4 of your original email is the process you need to use here.
My LO versions in which it works: 3.4.6, 3.5.6, AND 3.6.2.2. All of them 
are Debian 64 bit downloaded and installed from the LO website. (I don't 
use the versions found in Linux distribution repositories.)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2012-10-05 10:27, Andreas Säger wrote:

MySQL can import your customer-visibility-groups:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/load-xml.html

If there is any reason why you want customer-visibility-groups in a
calculator software, connect a registerd Base document to your MySQL server
and dump the imported data from the data source pane into a sheet which
creates a refreshable link.

XSLT and ODF office suites:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-oocalc/
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/tutorials/x-xsltopenoff/index.html [9
pages]

There are various topics on the OOo forums:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=67906
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3490f=45

Hi Andreas. The file with that XML snippit is uploaded to a MySQL 
database behind Rails every 15 minutes.
From time to time I load it into calc to provide quick lists of 
extracted data to our sales guys who cope fare easier with a spread sheet.

Steve

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 03.10.2012 20:54, Mark Stanton wrote:
 I've got an XML file (I've generated myself, programmatically).
 
 I thought it ought to be easy to import it in LO (3.4.6), somehow.  I 
 thougth Calc would be a good bet, but it just gives me General I/O 
 error.  Base does the same.
 
 The website 
 (help.libreoffice.org/Common/About_Import_and_Export_Filters) 
 suggests it ought to be doable but gives no details whatsoever.
 
 Anyone got any pointers I could use?
 
 Regars
 Mark Stanton
 
 
 

Well, if you implemented your own XML format then you should know the
appropriate software for your particular data structures.
If there is some reason why you want to open your file format in this
office suite then you have to write an XSLT script translating your
specific XML flavour into ODF for import and possibly vice versa for export.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 03/10/12 20:54, Mark Stanton a écrit :

Hi Mark,


 I've got an XML file (I've generated myself, programmatically).
 
 I thought it ought to be easy to import it in LO (3.4.6), somehow.  I 
 thougth Calc would be a good bet, but it just gives me General I/O 
 error.  Base does the same.
 

Without a filter to transform it into something readable/formattable by
one of the apps of the suite, at best you could possibly open it in
Writer as plain text.

The installed XML/XSLT filters that come with LO are :

Docbook from SXW (old binary StarOffice/OOo format) - import/export
MediaWiki - export
Mediawiki_web - export
MS Excel 2003 XML - import/export
MS Word 2003 XML - import/export
UOF Presentation - import/export
UOF Spreadsheet - import/export
UOF Text - import/export
XHTML Calc - export
XHTML Writer - export
XHTML Draw - export
XHTML Impress - export



Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] attempting to find an answer and instead ...

2012-10-04 Thread anne-ology
   Thanks for this explanation.

   Just thinking ... before the 'phone, folks would ring the doorbell
...
 after the 'phone, folks would ring the
'phone ...
so I guess ping is the cross between
ring and pc -
   interesting that's it's ping rather than p-ring p-ring p-ring ...



On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.netwrote:



 Joel Madero wrote:
 snip


 A ping is just a quick email (or IRC message, etc...) that says hey, any
 updates, some users even just say ping in IRC basically saying hey,
 you
 around?



 snip
 Joel,
 ping, another overloaded word:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Pinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping

 But those of us in the computer networking field assume:

Ping, a computer network tool used to test whether a particular host
is reachable across an IP network

 Colloquially, it is used as you define it - to send a quick message to
 someone to see what's going on in their life. As in
 I haven't heard from him for a while - I'm going to ping him to see what
 he's up to.
 Girvin Herr



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Re: [libreoffice-users] help needed ...

2012-10-04 Thread anne-ology
   Ok, thanks, I'll try it using Chrome - I've been using FireFox.

   The problem has been some box which does not seem to appear anywhere
-
some 'math problem' with a 'box for an answer' to prove I'm not
a robot
   [I've encountered these on other sites, but have not been
able to locate it on this site  ;-( ]



On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Mas tier3supp...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

 ... how were you able to log-in and get your names posted on that
  list?
 what am I doing wrong?
 
 
 
  From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM
  Subject: query re. volunteering w/ LO
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Cc: Joel jmadero@gmail.com
 
 
 Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
  follow these steps -
 but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
  which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
 Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
  error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(
 
 After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
  wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
 a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
  received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.
 
 When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
  I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was some
  joke;
 I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
  explanation to this;
I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed
 on
  that log-in page  ;-)
 
 
 
 
  From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
  Subject: Re: Triaging
  To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 
 
 I've been attempting to sign in -
clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
 problems:
the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
  answering some math question -
   I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
  located the problem nor the blank to fill in???
 
 I don't understand.
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
   appreciate the help :)
  
   I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:
  
   1. Go here,
  
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order
  ,
   and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see
 who
  is
   volunteering
  
   2. Go here,
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1
  ,
   pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
  biggest
   project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog
 of
   about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.
  
   I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your
 sheet
   gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully
 be
   doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start whenever
  you
   have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or
  add
   me on gchat/skype/etc...
  
   Thanks again,
   Joel
  
 
 
 
 You will need to sign into the wiki and add your name to the list on the
 page

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order

 Once you have done this , please open the Google Docs spreadsheet and
 select a tab to add your name to it. I recommend using Google Chrome to
 access the google docs page

 hope this helps



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[libreoffice-users] seperatiors between cross reference elements

2012-10-04 Thread rost52
When making a cross reference in a WRITER document I typically use [heading 
number] [space] [heading
text]
{heading number] is called in LO number and I choose always number (full 
context)
{heading text] is called LO Reference.

I am looking for a setting that the space (or another character) is added 
automatically between
[heading number] and [heading text] . Any hint is welcome. I am using LO 
3.5.6.on XP.

If such a possibility is not given, where can send an enhancement request to?

Thanks in advance.

ROSt

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

2012-10-04 Thread rost52


On 2012-10-03 11:41, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 02/10/12 19:38, Tim Deaton wrote:
I don't think we need to remove existing features.  But I DO think we need to focus on the 90% 
of average users.  Basically, I think LO should be making sure it can do everything that MS 
Office 97 (15-year-old software) could do, and do it just as well and just as easily.  If LO 
could do THAT, it would eat Microsoft's lunch.


Absolutely agree. Most of the functionality that MS has added to Office 2007/2010 has been 
geared towards the corporate collaborative user, which certainly in my experience (and I have to 
say my last corporate job was over ten years ago so the playing field may well have changed in 
this respect) wasn't a key factor in usage, and certainly has never been in the SOHO sector.
I believe that Office 2013 is even more aimed at cloud and collaborative usage - although it's 
highly probable that I shan't ever find out!
One of the problems that I've come across is that my daughter uses LO and sends as MS Office 
97-2003 documents when emailing. It appears that her recipients get gobbledy-gook so I need to 
find out what's happening there because that shouldn't happen.
IMHO LO is every bit as good as MS Office 97, but then that wasn't a particularly good iteration 
of MS Office! I think the aim should be to match Office 2003, which still seems to be the current 
standard by which Office suites are measured. (The very large international company my Wife works 
for are still on 2003..)

Both comments (Tim, Gorden) are valuable.
I switched to LO about 6 months ago and like it also I am missing (compared to MSO) a few features 
in IMPRESS badly  I am not the expert to really compare LO features with MSO 97 and 2003. Which 
version ever is used to be the comparison standard is not that important to me. But what is IMHO 
important is that all MSO97 features in and all bugs out. But don't take out features which are 
beyond MSO97 only get the bugs out. LO must become a very solid bug free production tool.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: calc cells spacing to contents not working as it should

2012-10-04 Thread hormuzd Irani
Firstly i would like to apologize for having bothered all of you, for if the
file is stored as an .ods file the formatting is retained (xls looses it).

from the .ods file i created a new .xlsx file. The .xlsx file (word
2007-2010 format) also lost the formatting. I think it is excel's inadequacy
(does not support cell spacing)

Free software has gone beyond MS,

Viva Libre Office



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Re: [libreoffice-users] attempting to find an answer and instead ...

2012-10-04 Thread Felmon Davis

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012, anne-ology wrote:


  Thanks for this explanation.

  Just thinking ... before the 'phone, folks would ring the doorbell
...
after the 'phone, folks would ring the
'phone ...
   so I guess ping is the cross between
ring and pc -
  interesting that's it's ping rather than p-ring p-ring p-ring ...


quotation from List of computer term etymologies 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_term_etymologies


'The author of ping, Mike Muuss, named it after the pulses of sound 
made by a sonar called a ping. Later Dave Mills provided the 
backronym Packet Internet Groper.'


probably better to look things up than speculate.

although not sure how reliable wikipedia is. I recall WWII movies 
where the crew of submarines suffered silently through 'pings' from 
enemy warships on the surface trying to locate them.


F.





On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.netwrote:




Joel Madero wrote:
snip



A ping is just a quick email (or IRC message, etc...) that says hey, any
updates, some users even just say ping in IRC basically saying hey,
you
around?




snip
Joel,
ping, another overloaded word:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Pinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping

But those of us in the computer networking field assume:

   Ping, a computer network tool used to test whether a particular host
   is reachable across an IP network

Colloquially, it is used as you define it - to send a quick message to
someone to see what's going on in their life. As in
I haven't heard from him for a while - I'm going to ping him to see what
he's up to.
Girvin Herr







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[libreoffice-users] Help request on CALC charts' features

2012-10-04 Thread Viral Orpe
Hi,

I am new to Open source *.* (OS, environment, office, Banshee, wvdial, the 
works)

I recently moved my excel spread-sheets to calc.
I am still going through files/features-check post the translation.
Most of the data, formula, and formatting are okay, fonts are better. 

In the charts I observed:
1. The full worksheet as chart in excel are converted to embedded charts in 
those sheets (no full charts).
2. Legends are peculiar. They are named as column? and not any text string 
that I would like to give.

Is this the way Libre Calc is implemented or I can get back to chart as 
worksheet in itself and legends of my 
liking without being restricted to the first column/ first row?


Also, is the system info below sufficient for posting here or anything more is 
advised? 


Any pointers would be great help.

Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

2012-10-04 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:43:34 -0500
anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
 follow these steps -
but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
 which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be
 found?] Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating
 this error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(
 
After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times,
 I wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
 received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.
 
When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet
 now I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response
 was some joke;
I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
 explanation to this;
   I happened to notice that some from this list, were
 listed on that log-in page  ;-)
 
 
 
 
 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Triaging
 To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 
 
I've been attempting to sign in -
   clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
 problems: the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
 answering some math question -
  I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
 located the problem nor the blank to fill in???
 
I don't understand.
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
  appreciate the help :)
 
  I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:
 
  1. Go here,
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order,
  and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily
  see who is volunteering
 
  2. Go here,
  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1,
  pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
  biggest project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with
  the backlog of about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and
  haven't been touched.
 
  I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your
  sheet gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll
  hopefully be doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free
  to start whenever you have the time. If you have any questions
  don't hesitate to email me or add me on gchat/skype/etc...
 
  Thanks again,
  Joel
 
 

Have you attempted to create an account per the first link? (Upper
right hand corner)  And do you have cookies enabled?  This is under
Firefox 15.0 on linux.  Where are you getting this math from?  There
is no math involved and no mathematical answer required.

I am just an end user without the knowledge required for QA work but
had no trouble joining the list.  Just followed the directions!.

Tom

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