+1 aside Fw: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions]
Hi :) Traditionally a binary digit is usually thought of as +1 or 0, on or off, that sort of thing. So i hadn't really thought of what the opposite of a +1 is but voting is not binary anyway and -1 makes more sense. Regards from Tom :) - Forwarded Message - From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 7:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions] On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Brian Barker wrote: At 08:23 22/11/2012 -0500, Virgil Aonly wrote: The fact that the original questioner on this thread had to ask how to disable so many autocorrect features, I think, proves my point. No - it just shows that he now knows about automatic correction *and* how to control it. A user simply trying to type a document should never have to ask why the program is making unintended changes to his work. Saying you don't want *unintended* changes is tautologous: you don't want what you don't want. No-one can argue with that. But that may require the program to read your mind. It all depends on what you mean by changes. If I type a complete sentence on one line of my document, the program *changes* what I typed by flowing the text onto multiple lines. I've typed a page or two and then decide to increase the font size of all my text; the program now *changes* what I had by reflowing the text to fit. I type a new value into a spreadsheet cell, the program *changes* all the cells with formulae depending on it - without my going near them! If you don't want a program to make any automatic changes, you probably want a typewriter. ;^) the emoticon is appropriate as the argument is obviously a strawman. everyone expects text to 're-flow', no one expects that in the sequence (a) ... (b) ... (c) ... the last value will become the copyright symbol. I've learned to turn this bit of buggery off after long travails but why 'long travails'? 'cause you forget about it until the next time you do a sequence and there the darned thing is again! I also '+1' or whatever (how high is one allowed to go?) that (i) should not generate (I). you certainly cannot argue this is as natural as paragraph reflowing. but your point about tautologies is well-taken ((+2)?) since the sense of it is diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, that is, some may want some autocorrections that are abominations to others. I would vote for limiting autocorrections to frequent misspellings and leave 'fancy formatting' out of it. anyone who mistypes a word will notice the autocorrection utility so there is no danger the resource will go unnoticed. is there such a thing as -1? F. -- Felmon Davis Birds are entangled by their feet and men by their tongues. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions]
Hi :) I never use a (c) in a list. It would be a bit of a pain for me if the easy way to create a copyright symbol was lost. When i do bulleted or numbered lists i use the tool that is designed to do that because then it's easier for me if i need to re-arrange or delete or add items to the list. Different people have different requirements and the defaults seem just about perfect for the vast majority so far. However, there are clearly a lot of people that would prefer much more basic settings and i kinda figured the Extensions site might be a good place to store a script or something to offer those people a whole set of reduced functionality. Vive la difference and Diversity breeds serendipity. Regards from Tom :) From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 7:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions] On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Brian Barker wrote: At 08:23 22/11/2012 -0500, Virgil Aonly wrote: The fact that the original questioner on this thread had to ask how to disable so many autocorrect features, I think, proves my point. No - it just shows that he now knows about automatic correction *and* how to control it. A user simply trying to type a document should never have to ask why the program is making unintended changes to his work. Saying you don't want *unintended* changes is tautologous: you don't want what you don't want. No-one can argue with that. But that may require the program to read your mind. It all depends on what you mean by changes. If I type a complete sentence on one line of my document, the program *changes* what I typed by flowing the text onto multiple lines. I've typed a page or two and then decide to increase the font size of all my text; the program now *changes* what I had by reflowing the text to fit. I type a new value into a spreadsheet cell, the program *changes* all the cells with formulae depending on it - without my going near them! If you don't want a program to make any automatic changes, you probably want a typewriter. ;^) the emoticon is appropriate as the argument is obviously a strawman. everyone expects text to 're-flow', no one expects that in the sequence (a) ... (b) ... (c) ... the last value will become the copyright symbol. I've learned to turn this bit of buggery off after long travails but why 'long travails'? 'cause you forget about it until the next time you do a sequence and there the darned thing is again! I also '+1' or whatever (how high is one allowed to go?) that (i) should not generate (I). you certainly cannot argue this is as natural as paragraph reflowing. but your point about tautologies is well-taken ((+2)?) since the sense of it is diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, that is, some may want some autocorrections that are abominations to others. I would vote for limiting autocorrections to frequent misspellings and leave 'fancy formatting' out of it. anyone who mistypes a word will notice the autocorrection utility so there is no danger the resource will go unnoticed. is there such a thing as -1? F. -- Felmon Davis Birds are entangled by their feet and men by their tongues. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] using jodconverter to call libreoffice, to convert xlsx files to PDF file
Hi :) I don't know why but the message got really badly garbled at this end. I copypasted into the Gedit text-editor to decypher it and got this as the original message I am using jodconverter to call libreoffice, to convert xlsx files to PDF file, if the xlsx file is empty documents, will the conversion failed. If the xlsx file contains the content, will be successful conversion. How can I convert empty excel document? Thanks you very much. Regards from Tom :) From: 银子 616198...@qq.com To: users users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 7:21 Subject: [libreoffice-users] using jodconverter to call libreoffice, to convert xlsx files to PDF file DIV P style=MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt class=MsoNormalSPAN style=FONT-SIZE: 16pt lang=EN-USFONT face=CalibriHi:?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office /o:p/o:p/FONT/SPAN/P P style=MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt class=MsoNormalSPAN style=FONT-SIZE: 16pt lang=EN-USFONT face=Calibrinbsp; I am u/FONT/SPANISPAN style=FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #525252; FONT-SIZE: 16pt lang=EN-USsing jodconverter to call libreoffice, to convert xlsx files to PDF file, if the xlsx file is empty documents, will the conversion failed./SPAN/ISPAN style=FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt lang=EN-US /SPANISPAN style=FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #525252; FONT-SIZE: 16pt lang=EN-USIf the xlsx file contains the content, will be successful conversion.o:p/o:p/SPAN/I/P P style=MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt class=MsoNormalISPAN style=FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #525252; FONT-SIZE: 16pt lang=EN-USnbsp;How can I convert empty excel document? Thanks you very much.o:p/o:p/SPAN/I/P/DIV -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] regression: some changes to documents in MS format (doc) aren't saved
Hi! I'm new to the LO community. We encountered a bug which wasn't in OO and which is in my biased opinion quite serious. A quick Google led me to an uncomfirmed bug filed in July: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52515 It seems the bug got no attention. Maybe I can't search... is it actually an obscure duplicate? Or was the bug ignored because it's improperly categorized or described? Is there anything I can do raise awareness of this issue? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/regression-some-changes-to-documents-in-MS-format-doc-aren-t-saved-tp4020425.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO Base Colour settings in Form design.
Hi All I have a Membership Database running on MySQL 5.1 with an LO Base Front end Ver 3.6.2.2. All running on PCLOS 2012. My Members fall into two or three different Categories and I would like to be able to show this on screen. SO - Is it possible to add in a statement to the Form design so that the background colour of the Form will change depending on the value set in a field called 'Cat'? Something like IF 'Cat'=abc THEN Bgd Colour = colour string1 OR IF 'Cat'=cde THEN Bgd Colour = colour string2 Thanks for any help!! IanW Pretoria RSA -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base Colour settings in Form design.
Ian , When using macro's to add the data to your form it can easly been done, without macro's ?? Greetz Fernand Hi All I have a Membership Database running on MySQL 5.1 with an LO Base Front end Ver 3.6.2.2. All running on PCLOS 2012. My Members fall into two or three different Categories and I would like to be able to show this on screen. SO - Is it possible to add in a statement to the Form design so that the background colour of the Form will change depending on the value set in a field called 'Cat'? Something like IF 'Cat'=abc THEN Bgd Colour = colour string1 OR IF 'Cat'=cde THEN Bgd Colour = colour string2 Thanks for any help!! IanW Pretoria RSA -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base Colour settings in Form design.
Ian , or maybe just place a listener on the filed who contains Cat data. on changing the field content place a event who run a macro: The eventlistner produce a oEvent object who contains the source = field object and the source.context = Form object IF Oevent.source.model.text = abc THEN Oevent.source. context . backgroundcolor == colour string1 OR ... hope it helps Hi All I have a Membership Database running on MySQL 5.1 with an LO Base Front end Ver 3.6.2.2. All running on PCLOS 2012. My Members fall into two or three different Categories and I would like to be able to show this on screen. SO - Is it possible to add in a statement to the Form design so that the background colour of the Form will change depending on the value set in a field called 'Cat'? Something like IF 'Cat'=abc THEN Bgd Colour = colour string1 OR IF 'Cat'=cde THEN Bgd Colour = colour string2 Thanks for any help!! IanW Pretoria RSA -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base Colour settings in Form design.
On 11/23/2012 10:24 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote: Hi All I have a Membership Database running on MySQL 5.1 with an LO Base Front end Ver 3.6.2.2. All running on PCLOS 2012. My Members fall into two or three different Categories and I would like to be able to show this on screen. SO - Is it possible to add in a statement to the Form design so that the background colour of the Form will change depending on the value set in a field called 'Cat'? Something like IF 'Cat'=abc THEN Bgd Colour = colour string1 OR IF 'Cat'=cde THEN Bgd Colour = colour string2 Thanks for any help!! IanW Pretoria RSA To do this you will have to create a macro. Use the Events tab of the Control tool to assign the macro to 'Cat'. I don't know how well you understand macros nor how to create them. I don't have any experience in using macros, so I can not make any suggestions as to the required macro's content. From what little I have seen, it may contain some lengthy lines of code. Others with macro experience may be able to point you in the right direction. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Base Colour settings in Form design.
Le 23/11/12 16:24, Ian Whitfield a écrit : Hi Ian, SO - Is it possible to add in a statement to the Form design so that the background colour of the Form will change depending on the value set in a field called 'Cat'? No, not directly. As others have said, you can only change colour settings via macro. The colour of the form background is a property of the document, which means that everytime you change that property, e.g. because you have displayed a data entry that sets off the macro, then you close the Form document, you will be asked if you want to save your changes (logical, because you have in effect changed the document, even if you have not changed the data bound from the database). This can lead to confusion/irritation with the users of the form who think that they either have to save something they possibly didn't change, or else the next user when opening the form finds it in a strange colour (unless of course your macro also fires on the upon open event to check whether the data of the first field corresponds to a doesn't meet the colour set criteria of the other macro). For questions like this, you really ought to be trawling the forums, especially the OOo forums, where you are more likely to be able to find someone who might have tried something similar, but unless you know OOoBasic/LOBasic, then you will make slow progress. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
I just finished uploading the new dictionaries and edited the new NA-DVD 3.6 dictionary page. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/dictionary.html#english en_CA - Canadian English - 674,277 words kpp-canadian-english-dictionary-674277-word-list.oxt [added 35,164 words] en_GB - British English - 674,039 words kpp-british-english-dictionary-674039-word-list.oxt [added 34,923words] en_US - American English - 797,865 words kpp-american-english-dictionary-797865-words-list.oxt [added 24,458 words] -- All of the dictionaries I have created are shown here http://www.libreoffice-na.us/KPP-dictionaries/dictionary.html --- Still have to wade through the Extensions site's system to upload them there, but that is for another day. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling?
Can I lock a row in spread sheet so it doesn't move out of view when I scroll down in long documents. I can do this in Excel but I haven't been able to find a way to do this in LibreOffice Calc. I have set up the first row in the spread sheet as a column titles row and I have over a 150 lines in the spread sheet. I would like that first row to remain in view as I scroll down the rows. Hope that makes sense. If there is a better way to set up column headers I welcome tips and tricks. -- StevenD So you want it fast, good, and cheap. Choose any two. A bad day at the beach is better than a good day at work. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling?
Hi :) Exactly the same way as it happens. Select the cell below and to your right of the column(s) that you also want to freeze. From the Menu Bar choose Window - Freeze Regards from Tom :) From: Steven Dayton daytonmeis...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 17:18 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling? Can I lock a row in spread sheet so it doesn't move out of view when I scroll down in long documents. I can do this in Excel but I haven't been able to find a way to do this in LibreOffice Calc. I have set up the first row in the spread sheet as a column titles row and I have over a 150 lines in the spread sheet. I would like that first row to remain in view as I scroll down the rows. Hope that makes sense. If there is a better way to set up column headers I welcome tips and tricks. -- StevenD So you want it fast, good, and cheap. Choose any two. A bad day at the beach is better than a good day at work. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling?
It works similarly to Excel. Select the cell that is just below the rows you want repeated as row headings and just to the right of the columns you want repeated as column headings. On the toolbar select Window | Freeze To change it or remove it, just select Window | Freeze (it will show as checked, this unchecks it). You can now scroll around and any frozen columns and rows stay in the display. This is independent of the printing of column and row headings. For that, you need to use the Format | Print Ranges | Edit dialog. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steven Dayton [mailto:daytonmeis...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 09:19 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling? Can I lock a row in spread sheet so it doesn't move out of view when I scroll down in long documents. I can do this in Excel but I haven't been able to find a way to do this in LibreOffice Calc. I have set up the first row in the spread sheet as a column titles row and I have over a 150 lines in the spread sheet. I would like that first row to remain in view as I scroll down the rows. Hope that makes sense. If there is a better way to set up column headers I welcome tips and tricks. -- StevenD So you want it fast, good, and cheap. Choose any two. A bad day at the beach is better than a good day at work. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling?
On 11/23/2012 12:18 PM, Steven Dayton wrote: Can I lock a row in spread sheet so it doesn't move out of view when I scroll down in long documents. I can do this in Excel but I haven't been able to find a way to do this in LibreOffice Calc. I have set up the first row in the spread sheet as a column titles row and I have over a 150 lines in the spread sheet. I would like that first row to remain in view as I scroll down the rows. Hope that makes sense. If there is a better way to set up column headers I welcome tips and tricks. Steve Yes, after selecting the columns or rows to be included then under Window select Freeze -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: +1 aside Fw: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions]
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Traditionally a binary digit is usually thought of as +1 or 0, on or off, that sort of thing. So i hadn't really thought of what the opposite of a +1 is but voting is not binary anyway and -1 makes more sense. Regards from Tom :) yeah, I've seen '+2', I've never seen '+10'. people used to say 'me too' but that got pooh-poohed. bad form. F. - Forwarded Message - From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 7:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions] On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Brian Barker wrote: At 08:23 22/11/2012 -0500, Virgil Aonly wrote: The fact that the original questioner on this thread had to ask how to disable so many autocorrect features, I think, proves my point. No - it just shows that he now knows about automatic correction *and* how to control it. A user simply trying to type a document should never have to ask why the program is making unintended changes to his work. Saying you don't want *unintended* changes is tautologous: you don't want what you don't want. No-one can argue with that. But that may require the program to read your mind. It all depends on what you mean by changes. If I type a complete sentence on one line of my document, the program *changes* what I typed by flowing the text onto multiple lines. I've typed a page or two and then decide to increase the font size of all my text; the program now *changes* what I had by reflowing the text to fit. I type a new value into a spreadsheet cell, the program *changes* all the cells with formulae depending on it - without my going near them! If you don't want a program to make any automatic changes, you probably want a typewriter. ;^) the emoticon is appropriate as the argument is obviously a strawman. everyone expects text to 're-flow', no one expects that in the sequence (a) ... (b) ... (c) ... the last value will become the copyright symbol. I've learned to turn this bit of buggery off after long travails but why 'long travails'? 'cause you forget about it until the next time you do a sequence and there the darned thing is again! I also '+1' or whatever (how high is one allowed to go?) that (i) should not generate (I). you certainly cannot argue this is as natural as paragraph reflowing. but your point about tautologies is well-taken ((+2)?) since the sense of it is diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, that is, some may want some autocorrections that are abominations to others. I would vote for limiting autocorrections to frequent misspellings and leave 'fancy formatting' out of it. anyone who mistypes a word will notice the autocorrection utility so there is no danger the resource will go unnoticed. is there such a thing as -1? F. -- Felmon Davis Birds are entangled by their feet and men by their tongues. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Felmon Davis Birds are entangled by their feet and men by their tongues. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling?
Thanks everyone for the input. If I had spend more time poking around I might have checked the Window menu. As a novice I wasn't expecting to go to that menu since I was working with cells and rows I was expecting to go to format or cell properties. Come to think of it I had to poke around Excel some time ago to figure out how to do this. And since I don't work with spread sheet much I forgot where to poke around. Anyway I hope I can remember for future reference. Thanks so much for the help. I hit reply to all. If that is not what I should do in the future please let me know. StevenD On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/2012 12:18 PM, Steven Dayton wrote: Can I lock a row in spread sheet so it doesn't move out of view when I scroll down in long documents. I can do this in Excel but I haven't been able to find a way to do this in LibreOffice Calc. I have set up the first row in the spread sheet as a column titles row and I have over a 150 lines in the spread sheet. I would like that first row to remain in view as I scroll down the rows. Hope that makes sense. If there is a better way to set up column headers I welcome tips and tricks. Steve Yes, after selecting the columns or rows to be included then under Window select Freeze -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- StevenD So you want it fast, good, and cheap. Choose any two. A bad day at the beach is better than a good day at work. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Hi webmaster, I think we can all contribute to this Quick Start Guide/FAQ/chart so it does not devolve down to just you developing it. For organizational purposes, maybe we can start by sharing/compiling a list of the most frequent tasks we use Libre Writer for and then each of us share how we accomplish those task in LW? There are a few options we can follow. For example, we could make this Quick Guide partly with shortcuts for the easy ones - e.g. Strikethrough - Right Click mouse, Style. choose Strikethrough We could have them listed alphabetically so if you're searching for a particular task you can search it by task name - e.g. from Auto-correct to Word Count. This shortcut enables newbies to grasp tasks easily and quickly. For the more complicated tasks, we could include a graphic(s) of where and how to accomplish the task. Ex. Mail merges, etc. or Page Numbering Inserting Page Numbers of Continuation Pages You can easily insert the page number of the next page in a footer by using a field. The page number is only displayed if the following page exists. 1. Choose Insert - Footer and select the page style that you want to add the footer to. 2. Place the cursor in the footer and choose Insert - Fields - Other. 3. In the Fields dialog, click the Document tab. 4. Click 'Page' in the Type list and 'Next page' in the Select list. 5. Click a numbering style in the Format list. If you select 'Text' in the Format list, only the text that you enter in the Value box is displayed in the field. 6. Click Insert to insert the field with the page number. I have no idea how many users are subscribed this list but let’s just say arguendo there are 10. If each of us 10 users contributed just 5 tasks they performed regularly in LW (and how those tasks are accomplished) then we would have 50 tasks. I dare say that would be very helpful to anyone transitioning from another word processor to LW in helping them get up to speed quickly and easily. That would also serve new subscribers in that if they had a question the could be referred to the Quick Guide/FAQ and then if the solution was not in that compilation they could follow up post for a solution and we could then add that to the Quick Guide/FAQ. Over time that Quick Guide/FAQ would grow with more solutions so users weren’t constantly answering the same questions and newbie’s could learn the value of LW very quickly. But, this task should not be shouldered by just one or two people since we will all benefit by it either directly or our family, friends neighbors, co-workers who can access this resource quickly and for free. Hi Tom - I've never worked on a Wiki page but maybe that's an option? We could add links to Youtube videos but I think newbie’s might find it faster for the easier tasks to just take a quick glance at the cheat sheet or shortcuts rather than watching a whole video. On the more complicated tasks, I like watching hw it’s done rather than trying to envision it, especially when I'm working a new environment like LW or Calc. So, let’s continue sharing, shall we? I'm still searching for the solutions to these tasks which we can then add to this Quick Guide: 1. Keep a dotted line across a page without it automatically becoming a solid line 2. Suppressing hyperlinks 3. Turn on/off Fast Save 4. Turn on/off the Track Changes tool 5. Print file list of file names in a sub-directory - this is where you have a sub-directory of file names and you wish to print just the names of the files (not the files themselves). Ex. Sub-directory is Football and in there are separate files for each of the NFL teams. You want to print the list of all the names of those files (each team name) but not the contents of each of those files. - Eliminating hard returns I am using non printable characters being visible. thus delete the character Webmaster? I’m nit sure what that means? - Indents - where and how to change Either looking in style or Format menu or Tool menu and search for the required menu item. - Is there a way to change indents without resorting a specific style? Maybe you just wan to make certain indents for that document and not keep it for other documents? I'm concerned abut the situation where, for whatever reason, you have hard returns in a document and you wish to remove them - maybe with a résumé where you want a soft return instead? - Line spacing - you can right click on any line or paragraph and choose Line Spacing but you're limited to single, 1.5 or double. What if you want to set your line spacing to something other than those 3 choices? Thanks so much, Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:52:38 -0500 To:users@global.libreoffice.org I am not the best person to create a final chart/guide/sheet. Due to the 3 strokes, my communication skills were affected so I do not have an easy time trying to get
[libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
FYI, I think Tom has also indicated that these are also available on the extensions site. Tom: Thanks for this as well as the work you do on the EN DVD. Awesome! Cheers, Marc Le 2012-11-23 11:56, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : I just finished uploading the new dictionaries and edited the new NA-DVD 3.6 dictionary page. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/dictionary.html#english en_CA - Canadian English - 674,277 words kpp-canadian-english-dictionary-674277-word-list.oxt [added 35,164 words] en_GB - British English - 674,039 words kpp-british-english-dictionary-674039-word-list.oxt [added 34,923words] en_US - American English - 797,865 words kpp-american-english-dictionary-797865-words-list.oxt [added 24,458 words] -- All of the dictionaries I have created are shown here http://www.libreoffice-na.us/KPP-dictionaries/dictionary.html --- Still have to wade through the Extensions site's system to upload them there, but that is for another day. -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
Hi :) The devs team has a list of Easy Hacks. The docs team are working at producing something similar. The marketing team have a list of specific tasks from fairly simple to quite complexinvolved. I imagine the design team have something similar but you never know with artists. The website team almost certainly has a list of things they wish they had time for. Translations teams seem to have a list of the chapters with completed, work-in-progress and unclaimed ones clearly identified. Translations and docs teams always appreciate someone stepping in to proof-read. QA has a list of bug-reports that haven't been triaged yet (probably best to treat as multiple choice and avoid getting bogged down in ones you can't handle yet (return to them later)). Each team has something but it might not be immediately obvious without joining the specific team and asking for their jobs (or whatever) list. Regards from Tom :) From: Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012, 13:34 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? Thanks, Regina. I know there are other ways to contribute, but I don't necessarily know what they are. Templates is one way, but the real issue I see is going from MSO to LO/OO. We can't control the other end. So is there a simple list of SPECIFIC ways users can contribute (templates is a good example) that is easily found? I've seen some general lists of how to contribute, but I haven't searched much for more specifics. In any case it should probably be front and center on the website (again, not the develop, donate $$, etc. generic list, but more specifics). Carl On 11/19/12 8:09 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi, Carl Paulsen schrieb: In practical use, I would NOT say LO (or OOo) has a high file compatibility with MS Office. Virtually every file I receive from MS Office users has some kind of problem (bullet lists almost NEVER convert correctly, at least from MSO to LO). I'm only an occasional Office suite user so I put up with it (plus I'm on a Mac), but I've never been able to convince others to use LO for this reason alone. And I mostly work with non-profits who, for several reasons, should be avid LO users. I also realize MSO, with it's market share, stands only to gain from keeping it's formatting a moving target. With that in mind, I just can't imagine how a project like LO could hope to keep up and make inroads. Wish I could help with making it work better, but I know nothing about contributing to development. You do not need to be a developer to help. One idea for interoperability I heard on LibOCon, is to make templates, that can be converted nicely. So if you have access to MSO, then examine, what kind of things are dangerous for converting and what kind of things convert without problems. Make a Wiki site with your observations and create good templates based on this rationale. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
Hi :) Thanks :D I think you meant Tim@KrackedPress. Tim's the one that really deserves the praise and +1 from me too :) Nicely done Tim! :) Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: market...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 19:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online FYI, I think Tom has also indicated that these are also available on the extensions site. Tom: Thanks for this as well as the work you do on the EN DVD. Awesome! Cheers, Marc Le 2012-11-23 11:56, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : I just finished uploading the new dictionaries and edited the new NA-DVD 3.6 dictionary page. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/dictionary.html#english en_CA - Canadian English - 674,277 words kpp-canadian-english-dictionary-674277-word-list.oxt [added 35,164 words] en_GB - British English - 674,039 words kpp-british-english-dictionary-674039-word-list.oxt [added 34,923words] en_US - American English - 797,865 words kpp-american-english-dictionary-797865-words-list.oxt [added 24,458 words] -- All of the dictionaries I have created are shown here http://www.libreoffice-na.us/KPP-dictionaries/dictionary.html --- Still have to wade through the Extensions site's system to upload them there, but that is for another day. -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling?
Hi :) Reply to all is the new way so you did that perfectly. Everyone that answered got your thanks from 1 message so that's good on at least 2 counts :) If you don't remember you can always ask again. There is some documentation at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications and even the inbuilt Help menu can be useful sometimes but we enjoy having a quick question that we can race each other to solve to see who gets there 1st. Regards from Tom :) From: Steven Dayton daytonmeis...@gmail.com To: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 18:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can I lock a row so it doesn't move when scrolling? Thanks everyone for the input. If I had spend more time poking around I might have checked the Window menu. As a novice I wasn't expecting to go to that menu since I was working with cells and rows I was expecting to go to format or cell properties. Come to think of it I had to poke around Excel some time ago to figure out how to do this. And since I don't work with spread sheet much I forgot where to poke around. Anyway I hope I can remember for future reference. Thanks so much for the help. I hit reply to all. If that is not what I should do in the future please let me know. StevenD On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/2012 12:18 PM, Steven Dayton wrote: Can I lock a row in spread sheet so it doesn't move out of view when I scroll down in long documents. I can do this in Excel but I haven't been able to find a way to do this in LibreOffice Calc. I have set up the first row in the spread sheet as a column titles row and I have over a 150 lines in the spread sheet. I would like that first row to remain in view as I scroll down the rows. Hope that makes sense. If there is a better way to set up column headers I welcome tips and tricks. Steve Yes, after selecting the columns or rows to be included then under Window select Freeze -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- StevenD So you want it fast, good, and cheap. Choose any two. A bad day at the beach is better than a good day at work. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
This is useless as a spell checker. It has both US and Canadian spelling for many words. o vs. ou, -ise vs. -ize. Double l vs. single l when adding suffixes. Use of s or c in spelling. Absolutely useless for checking the spelling of documents. A Canadian English dictionary should have only the correct Canadian English spellings. On 2012-11-23 10:56 AM webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: en_CA - Canadian English - 674,277 words kpp-canadian-english-dictionary-674277-word-list.oxt [added 35,164 words] -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
For now the 3 new versions of my dictionaries will be only found on the NA-DVD dictionary page. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/dictionary.html#english In a few days or a week or so from now, I will go and wade through the process to upload the new versions to the http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/american-british-canadian-spelling-hyphen-thesaurus-dictionaries page. Right now, that page shows a warning that my extensions may not be still supported. Well I am still supporting them as well as I can. The three dictionaries are created from lists of words that are separated into American English, British English, and Canadian English. The dictionaries have their versions of English, en_US, en_GB, and en_CA. A poster has stated that there may be problems with the Canadian dictionary. Something about some specific word spellings that they do not think is pure Canadian words, but American word spellings. For my part, I did not choose the words in each of the set of word lists. What I can say is that the words for the Canadian dictionary has come from sources that state that the words are Canadian words. The British and American words are from word lists that come from lists stating that these are British words and American words. I am not a authority in what is the differences between each of the versions of the English language. So, I look to other groups and organizations that know much more about these things than I do. If someone does not like the spelling words I use, please take my dictionaries and edit out the words they thing that are not words that are not pure English for their version of the language. So, I do not have answers on what is or is not pure and proper words for American/en_US, British/en_GB, and Canadian/en_CA, English. I rely on these more authoritative groups and agencies. If individual people have a degree in linguistics, then I will pass along their problems with specific words in questions. I will change my word lists based on their updated lists. NO, I will not give out my resources or places where I get my word lists. Everyone can find my sources, if they look for them. They seem to have new ones every year or two, or so I have seen. On 11/23/2012 03:08 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Thanks :D I think you meant Tim@KrackedPress. Tim's the one that really deserves the praise and +1 from me too :) Nicely done Tim! :) Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: market...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 19:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online FYI, I think Tom has also indicated that these are also available on the extensions site. Tom: Thanks for this as well as the work you do on the EN DVD. Awesome! Cheers, Marc Le 2012-11-23 11:56, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : I just finished uploading the new dictionaries and edited the new NA-DVD 3.6 dictionary page. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/dictionary.html#english en_CA - Canadian English - 674,277 words kpp-canadian-english-dictionary-674277-word-list.oxt [added 35,164 words] en_GB - British English - 674,039 words kpp-british-english-dictionary-674039-word-list.oxt [added 34,923words] en_US - American English - 797,865 words kpp-american-english-dictionary-797865-words-list.oxt [added 24,458 words] -- All of the dictionaries I have created are shown here http://www.libreoffice-na.us/KPP-dictionaries/dictionary.html --- Still have to wade through the Extensions site's system to upload them there, but that is for another day. -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
How about someone go and deal with creating a Wiki page[s] that will be the place to place all of the things people will want to see on a 6 page worth of shortcuts and other things that could be, should be, on the quick guide sheets. I have just completed the creation of the new versions of my English dictionaries. They are on the NA-DVD site, but it will be a while before they are on the LO Extension site. After they are on that site, I will start looking at the guide sheet. I also want to wait till I receive a professional laminated sheet for Word, so I can see what they include. At that point I may publish the types of information that they include in their sheet[s]. On 11/23/2012 02:27 PM, charles meyer wrote: Hi webmaster, I think we can all contribute to this Quick Start Guide/FAQ/chart so it does not devolve down to just you developing it. For organizational purposes, maybe we can start by sharing/compiling a list of the most frequent tasks we use Libre Writer for and then each of us share how we accomplish those task in LW? There are a few options we can follow. For example, we could make this Quick Guide partly with shortcuts for the easy ones - e.g. Strikethrough - Right Click mouse, Style. choose Strikethrough We could have them listed alphabetically so if you're searching for a particular task you can search it by task name - e.g. from Auto-correct to Word Count. This shortcut enables newbies to grasp tasks easily and quickly. For the more complicated tasks, we could include a graphic(s) of where and how to accomplish the task. Ex. Mail merges, etc. or Page Numbering Inserting Page Numbers of Continuation Pages You can easily insert the page number of the next page in a footer by using a field. The page number is only displayed if the following page exists. 1. Choose Insert - Footer and select the page style that you want to add the footer to. 2. Place the cursor in the footer and choose Insert - Fields - Other. 3. In the Fields dialog, click the Document tab. 4. Click 'Page' in the Type list and 'Next page' in the Select list. 5. Click a numbering style in the Format list. If you select 'Text' in the Format list, only the text that you enter in the Value box is displayed in the field. 6. Click Insert to insert the field with the page number. I have no idea how many users are subscribed this list but let’s just say arguendo there are 10. If each of us 10 users contributed just 5 tasks they performed regularly in LW (and how those tasks are accomplished) then we would have 50 tasks. I dare say that would be very helpful to anyone transitioning from another word processor to LW in helping them get up to speed quickly and easily. That would also serve new subscribers in that if they had a question the could be referred to the Quick Guide/FAQ and then if the solution was not in that compilation they could follow up post for a solution and we could then add that to the Quick Guide/FAQ. Over time that Quick Guide/FAQ would grow with more solutions so users weren’t constantly answering the same questions and newbie’s could learn the value of LW very quickly. But, this task should not be shouldered by just one or two people since we will all benefit by it either directly or our family, friends neighbors, co-workers who can access this resource quickly and for free. Hi Tom - I've never worked on a Wiki page but maybe that's an option? We could add links to Youtube videos but I think newbie’s might find it faster for the easier tasks to just take a quick glance at the cheat sheet or shortcuts rather than watching a whole video. On the more complicated tasks, I like watching hw it’s done rather than trying to envision it, especially when I'm working a new environment like LW or Calc. So, let’s continue sharing, shall we? I'm still searching for the solutions to these tasks which we can then add to this Quick Guide: 1. Keep a dotted line across a page without it automatically becoming a solid line 2. Suppressing hyperlinks 3. Turn on/off Fast Save 4. Turn on/off the Track Changes tool 5. Print file list of file names in a sub-directory - this is where you have a sub-directory of file names and you wish to print just the names of the files (not the files themselves). Ex. Sub-directory is Football and in there are separate files for each of the NFL teams. You want to print the list of all the names of those files (each team name) but not the contents of each of those files. - Eliminating hard returns I am using non printable characters being visible. thus delete the character Webmaster? I’m nit sure what that means? - Indents - where and how to change Either looking in style or Format menu or Tool menu and search for the required menu item. - Is there a way to change indents without resorting a specific style? Maybe you just wan to make certain indents for that document and not keep it for other documents? I'm concerned abut the situation where, for whatever
[libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 2012-11-23 3:07 PM webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: A poster has stated that there may be problems with the Canadian dictionary. Something about some specific word spellings that they do not think is pure Canadian words, but American word spellings. For my part, I did not choose the words in each of the set of word lists. What I can say is that the words for the Canadian dictionary has come from sources that state that the words are Canadian words. The British and American words are from word lists that come from lists stating that these are British words and American words. I never used the word pure. I am referring to the standard Canadian spelling, not the alternate spellings some people may use. A spell checker is only of use if it gives the standard spelling for a word. Having many different spellings of a word indicated as correct renders it useless as a spell checker. You need better sources. I am not a authority in what is the differences between each of the versions of the English language. So, I look to other groups and organizations that know much more about these things than I do. If someone does not like the spelling words I use, please take my dictionaries and edit out the words they thing that are not words that are not pure English for their version of the language. If you do not know what the standard spelling is for a version of English you have no business putting out a spell checker for that version. Are you seriously suggesting that I go through 674,277 words and correct their spelling? That is what I use a spell checker for, and for doing that yours is useless NO, I will not give out my resources or places where I get my word lists. Everyone can find my sources, if they look for them. They seem to have new ones every year or two, or so I have seen. Since you do not give credit to your sources you are guilty of plagiarism. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 23/11/2012 at 22:27, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Since you do not give credit to your sources you are guilty of plagiarism. I believe that you really can't plagiarize language. These are just words. They are common good (or public domain, if you prefer more strict term). But yes, not giving credit for sources seems not fair. On the other hand, Tim (webmaster) said that his sources are easily findable, so maybe he does, after all, give credits? -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Collate print option not working
Greetings, I finally got time to work on this problem. As a result of some helpful replies to my original posting, I have made some progress with this subject problem and I am making this posting in case it may help others. I changed my CUPS printer driver from the HP Laserjet 8150 Series Postscript (en) to the HP Laserjet 8150 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.2 driver and now I can print the LO-generated PDF file of my 3-page document in Adobe Acrobat reader 9 perfectly. Collation and number of copies (2) are correct. Since Reader 9 now prints the correct number of copies and collation, the problem is no longer the CUPS driver. With that baseline said, LO printing now prints double the number of copies (4 in this case of specifying 2), but the collation is now correct (1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3). So, there still seems to be something wrong with LO printing in this area. I just tried specifying the number of copies at 3 and got 9 copies!! So this is not merely doubling, it is squaring!! In deference to the forests of the world, I am not going any higher in copies with this testing. This problem is not a show-stopper for me. I have other ways to print multiple copies. I just found this LO printing action as something unexpected. Thanks to everyone who replied to my original posting. Girvin Herr Girvin R. Herr wrote: Webmaster, See below for answers to your questions. webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: snip What version of Linux are you using? Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, Opensuse, etc., etc.? Slackware 12.2 (K2.6.27) Since you run Linux, can you try creating a PDF file for your document and then use the default viewer package for PDF to open it. Then go to your printer's options and try to print 2 or 3 copies of the document with the collate option. Now that got interesting! I tried this using Adobe Acrobat Reader to print the PDF file and although I selected 2 copies, collated, I got one copy! I then tried 3 copies and still only got one copy. snip What printer are your using? Which driver set? Original-manufacture-style, CUPS-style or GhostScript-style? Manually installed or did the Linux version find the printer driver and installed it automatically? I am using an HP Laserjet 8150DN, CUPS 1.3.11, on AppSocket/HP JetDirect and the HP Laserjet 8150 Series Postscript (en) driver. When I installed it, CUPS found the printer on my network automagically with the Find New Printers option, but I continued to install it manually using the CUPS wizard. I did not opt for the Foomatic or Gutenprint drivers, thinking they would not be needed, since the printer has Postscript emulation, and a simple Postscript driver should suffice. Now I may go back and rethink that decision. I noticed there are two other drivers I may try: Foomatic and CUPS Gutenprint v5.2.2. snip Try the Export to PDF for one copy of the document and then try and print the duplex and collated document that way. If it works, then it is a LO printer option issue. If it does not work properly, then it is a printer/driver issue. My Epson has a problem with LO and my HP has a driver issue, the last time I tried it - which was a few months back when I was still running Ubuntu 10.04. snip Thanks for the help. You may be onto something with the driver. I will try the other drivers and report back. Girvin Herr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 2012-11-23 4:01 PM Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 23/11/2012 at 22:27, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Since you do not give credit to your sources you are guilty of plagiarism. I believe that you really can't plagiarize language. These are just words. They are common good (or public domain, if you prefer more strict term). Every book, essay, article, etc. written is just words. Any dictionaries I have looked at are copyrighted, included the ones that are distributed in LibreOffice. But yes, not giving credit for sources seems not fair. And is contrary to the copyright on the sources. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
You cannot own a copyright on words or your language. You copyright the order they are used in a document. The published definition type of dictionaries copyright the text of their definitions, and not the words themselves. You copyright War and Peace but not the words used in that very large book. The authors of the books would be very put out if they have to get permission to use English words if a publisher of a definition dictionary could own the words in their books. - You want one source, try looking at the published lists of words that many Linux distros state are part of American, British, Canadian versions of English. How about their French lists, or Spanish lists. I looked and found where they are published and they are there for all to see and use under open source. You want another, try googling for free word lists for the various English languages. There are places out there, or were out there, since the Internet/WWW has been more than a Educational play thing. Also, over the years I have collected many sets of words. When I started was with a dictionary project from my college days for a 177,000 spelling word dictionary. Then have you ever data-mined the words used in published articles and other documents? Ever looked into an Unabridged dictionary that weighs 10-15 pounds of paper? How do you want me to declare all of these sources? By words found where or by the year I found them? How about I look for who had the authority to include it in that version of the English language [that would very hard to find]? Well, I do not have a list since I have been doing this word collecting for well over 20 years and with many different computers. Many times I have lost files and had to rebuild them. Since I have had my 3 strokes, I have been looking into ways to find more and more places that have correctly spelled words in their documents. Now, you call me guilty of plagiarism. I take published documents and data-mine what words are being used. I do my best to find sources that are linguistically correct. Purists for standards have created the following versions of the French language: Classique-Reforme--1990 Classique Moderne Reforme I did not make up those names, but they came from the people who created the French dictionaries for LO and AOO. I think that if a person writes in French and uses a spelling of a word that is part of their written history, that those words and their spellings are valid. When I see a document published in Canada, I assume that they are words used in Canadian English. If the document is published in the UK, then those words are British English. If the document is published in the USA, then that document uses words in American English. Now we are not a isolated societies anymore. The English language has added words from French, Spanish, and German sources. Actually words are being added to the language from peoples and cultural sources all over the world. We who speak the English in the USA have started to include words and their spellings that the British have been using for years. Since Canada was founded by British and French speaking people, they get much of their English words from Britain. Now, since Canada and the USA share a border, words and their spellings cross that border in both direction. As I said, I am not a linguist. I rely on other who are publishing documents in their own versions of English to be the proper authority. If I believe that those groups, organizations, or publications have the authority, then I will use the words in the documents produced by them. By-the-way, there are rarely one group that can be called the sole authority for a subject, but one of the many groups that share it. Also, these different groups can state different opinions about the same topic. They do not always agree. Just look at all of the different publishers of Unabridged dictionaries published in the USA. They all include a different total set of words, with some words not included by others even though they all claim to be unabridged versions of the English language. I would like to add to my word lists, the spelling words of most of the English language terms used in Science, Mathematics, Technology, and other things that are taught to our youth from the time they are 5 years old through their college and university education. I will look for those documents that are in English that are part of the written knowledge and try to find words that are not currently included in my current dictionaries. --- SO if you do not think my work is correct, you have the choice not to use it. Find other dictionaries. Actually, the English language dictionary that is included in LO may actually include en_AU, en_CA, en_GB, en_US, and en_ZA. With the 64-bit Debian install of LibreOffice, there are over 10 localized English
Re: [libreoffice-users] Collate print option not working
As I stated many times before [or tried to get the words out with my stroked brain interfering sometimes], LO will not work with the duplex of my Epson Artisan printer, but will for my HP Laserjet 2300n printer that has the duplex option included. I have used several drivers for the Epson both with Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04. But no go. SO, what I do most of the time is create a PDF document from Writer and then open that PDF file and print the duplex document that way. I have, with a few older HP printers and with Windows drivers [Win95-Vista] have had problems with collation one and a while. But with my Ubuntu desktop and the default PDF viewer, I have not seen any collation problems at all. Of course, I hardly ever tell my printers to print many copies or a 2+ page document and NEVER tell it to print 2+ copies of duplex document with an odd number of pages. I have seen page 3 of copy 4 and page 1 of copy 5 on the same sheet of paper. I do know that ever since LO came out, and I have been reading the lists, I have seen people have problems with certain printers not having some of their printing features, like duplex, not work with LO, but work with packages other than LO. It is up to the developers to get the print commands in LO and the commands from the OS commands for the printers to match up. The problem is that the developers do not have all of the 1,000 or more printers to test on. On 11/23/2012 05:25 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I finally got time to work on this problem. As a result of some helpful replies to my original posting, I have made some progress with this subject problem and I am making this posting in case it may help others. I changed my CUPS printer driver from the HP Laserjet 8150 Series Postscript (en) to the HP Laserjet 8150 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.2 driver and now I can print the LO-generated PDF file of my 3-page document in Adobe Acrobat reader 9 perfectly. Collation and number of copies (2) are correct. Since Reader 9 now prints the correct number of copies and collation, the problem is no longer the CUPS driver. With that baseline said, LO printing now prints double the number of copies (4 in this case of specifying 2), but the collation is now correct (1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3). So, there still seems to be something wrong with LO printing in this area. I just tried specifying the number of copies at 3 and got 9 copies!! So this is not merely doubling, it is squaring!! In deference to the forests of the world, I am not going any higher in copies with this testing. This problem is not a show-stopper for me. I have other ways to print multiple copies. I just found this LO printing action as something unexpected. Thanks to everyone who replied to my original posting. Girvin Herr Girvin R. Herr wrote: Webmaster, See below for answers to your questions. webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: snip What version of Linux are you using? Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, Opensuse, etc., etc.? Slackware 12.2 (K2.6.27) Since you run Linux, can you try creating a PDF file for your document and then use the default viewer package for PDF to open it. Then go to your printer's options and try to print 2 or 3 copies of the document with the collate option. Now that got interesting! I tried this using Adobe Acrobat Reader to print the PDF file and although I selected 2 copies, collated, I got one copy! I then tried 3 copies and still only got one copy. snip What printer are your using? Which driver set? Original-manufacture-style, CUPS-style or GhostScript-style? Manually installed or did the Linux version find the printer driver and installed it automatically? I am using an HP Laserjet 8150DN, CUPS 1.3.11, on AppSocket/HP JetDirect and the HP Laserjet 8150 Series Postscript (en) driver. When I installed it, CUPS found the printer on my network automagically with the Find New Printers option, but I continued to install it manually using the CUPS wizard. I did not opt for the Foomatic or Gutenprint drivers, thinking they would not be needed, since the printer has Postscript emulation, and a simple Postscript driver should suffice. Now I may go back and rethink that decision. I noticed there are two other drivers I may try: Foomatic and CUPS Gutenprint v5.2.2. snip Try the Export to PDF for one copy of the document and then try and print the duplex and collated document that way. If it works, then it is a LO printer option issue. If it does not work properly, then it is a printer/driver issue. My Epson has a problem with LO and my HP has a driver issue, the last time I tried it - which was a few months back when I was still running Ubuntu 10.04. snip Thanks for the help. You may be onto something with the driver. I will try the other drivers and report back. Girvin Herr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 24/11/2012 at 00:01, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Every book, essay, article, etc. written is just words. Copyrighted are not words per se, but very specific order of these that creates unique work. And, going further, ideas submitted in these words. Or ideas in general, since they can be expressed through painting, music, performance and other means. Any dictionaries I have looked at are copyrighted, included the ones that are distributed in LibreOffice. Still - this is unique work that is copyrighted, not language. Unless there are certain mistakes copied, you can't really prove that dictionary was plagiarized. Take few dictionaries from different publishing houses. There will be large parts that are exactly the same. Can one publishing house sue other for plagiarism? None will dare. After all, they both plagiarized large parts of some older dictionaries. In printed dictionaries, there is also typographical layout that is copyrighted. But this is not language. Copyrighting words just does not make sense. And since words can not be copyrighted, they can not be plagiarized. It's unique work that can be plagiarized, but in regards of dictionaries proving that something isn't unique work is almost impossible. After all, this is just a list of words that people already use (does prior art ring a bell here?). And please don't confuse copyright with trademark. Common words may be part of trademark. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 2012-11-23 5:20 PM webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Now please do not call someone guilty of plagiarism unless you have proof of that act and not just opinions. You have admitted taking word lists from multiple sources without giving attribution to the sources. That is plagiarism. Your compilation of Canadian English words is useless as a spellchecker. Having both the standard Canadian English and US English variants of the spelling of a word show as correct is ridiculous and makes your lists useless. As you said you are not a linguist. You ignorance of the proper compilation of a useful spell checker is obvious. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions]
At 02:53 23/11/2012 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Brian Barker wrote: At 08:23 22/11/2012 -0500, Virgil Aonly wrote: The fact that the original questioner on this thread had to ask how to disable so many autocorrect features, I think, proves my point. No - it just shows that he now knows about automatic correction *and* how to control it. A user simply trying to type a document should never have to ask why the program is making unintended changes to his work. Saying you don't want *unintended* changes is tautologous: you don't want what you don't want. No-one can argue with that. But that may require the program to read your mind. It all depends on what you mean by changes. If I type a complete sentence on one line of my document, the program *changes* what I typed by flowing the text onto multiple lines. I've typed a page or two and then decide to increase the font size of all my text; the program now *changes* what I had by reflowing the text to fit. I type a new value into a spreadsheet cell, the program *changes* all the cells with formulae depending on it - without my going near them! If you don't want a program to make any automatic changes, you probably want a typewriter. ;^) the emoticon is appropriate as the argument is obviously a strawman. Oh, not at all! The suggestion was that users shouldn't have to see changes they don't expect. My examples were of changes that everyone values. I bet every typewriter user didn't expect reflowing the first time it happened, nor every spreadsheet user recalculation when that happened. The important thing is that such facilities can be disabled - and they can. Our disagreement is whether these facilities should be on by default (so that experienced users who prefer to disable all or some of them simply need to do so), or whether they should be hidden, so they don't trouble experienced users but novice users (and possibly even experienced ones) never discover them. is there such a thing as -1? Now I need a chuckle emoticon ... Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [More questions - but some the same as before]
At 14:27 23/11/2012 -0500, Charles Meyer wrote: We could have them listed alphabetically so if you're searching for a particular task you can search it by task name - e.g. from Auto-correct to Word Count. Or we could have the alphabetical list built into the software itself. Oh, look: someone already has done that - it's called Help. Inserting Page Numbers of Continuation Pages You can easily insert the page number of the next page in a footer by using a field. The page number is only displayed if the following page exists. This is a rather obscure requirement. It would be weird to have a book with notices at the bottom of each page such that page 1 had continued on page 2 and so on and on! Better to expect readers to learn how to operate a book before using it. (I gather youngsters can now be seen wiping their finger lightly across the recto in a real book, expecting that to turn the page as it would in an e-book!) I have no idea how many users are subscribed this list but lets just say arguendo there are 10. If each of us 10 users contributed just 5 tasks they performed regularly in LW (and how those tasks are accomplished) then we would have 50 tasks. That's very unlikely. It would happen only if you collaborated carefully to avoid duplication. I'm still searching for the solutions to these tasks which we can then add to this Quick Guide: 1. Keep a dotted line across a page without it automatically becoming a solid line See my earlier answer (of 21 November). 2. Suppressing hyperlinks See my earlier answer (of 21 November). 3. Turn on/off Fast Save I'm not sure we know what you mean by this. That's clear from the attempts at an answer you have been given. 4. Turn on/off the Track Changes tool See my earlier answer (of 21 November). 5. Print file list of file names in a sub-directory ... See my earlier answer (of 21 November). First, this is a task for your operating system, not for an office suite. Second, how you do it depends on what operating system you are using. Eliminating hard returns See my earlier answer (of 21 November). This depends on exactly what you want to do - which is not clear. Do you mean that you want to combine paragraphs into a single paragraph? Search for $ and replace with nothing (or a blank or whatever you want - you don't make that clear either) in Find Replace, with Regular expressions selected. Is there a way to change indents without resorting a specific style? Yes, indents are a paragraph property as well as a paragraph style property. But styles are a Good Idea. Maybe you just want to make certain indents for that document and not keep it for other documents? That shows a misunderstanding. Unless you specifically load styles from one document or template to another, and changes you make to styles or new styles you create apply only to the current document. I'm concerned abut the situation where, for whatever reason, you have hard returns in a document and you wish to remove them - maybe with a résumé where you want a soft return instead? Do you mean you want line breaks instead of paragraph breaks, or something else? (There is nothing specific about a résumé that would require this, is there?) Line spacing - you can right click on any line or paragraph and choose Line Spacing but you're limited to single, 1.5 or double. What if you want to set your line spacing to something other than those 3 choices? Line spacing is a paragraph property as well as a paragraph style property. Look in whichever of those places you require and you will see many, more flexible arrangements. Incidentally, asking questions in this way is not the best way to learn how to use a word processor (or other software). As you will have seen, few people are willing to set about one-to-one teaching of topics that you can easily look up. You should get used to using the embedded Help facility and obtain and peruse the Writer Guide. (Oh look: I said that on 21 November, too!) You may also want to look for local courses on the subject. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [More questions - but some the same as before]
Below texts are from Brian and Charles. I cannot say if 10 people can write about 5 tasks or not. I am willing to write about 3, 5 if I can spare a bit more time. However, it must be organized. We all have other things to do thus duplication must be avoided. This in turn means a working mode needs to be defined. I am open to listen/read. On 2012-11-24 12:24, Brian Barker wrote: I have no idea how many users are subscribed this list but let’s just say arguendo there are 10. If each of us 10 users contributed just 5 tasks they performed regularly in LW (and how those tasks are accomplished) then we would have 50 tasks. That's very unlikely. It would happen only if you collaborated carefully to avoid duplication. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [More questions - but some the same as before]
At 12:51 24/11/2012 +0900, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote: On 2012-11-24 12:24, Brian Barker wrote: I have no idea how many users are subscribed this list but let's just say arguendo there are 10. If each of us 10 users contributed just 5 tasks they performed regularly in LW (and how those tasks are accomplished) then we would have 50 tasks. No, I did *not* write that. Please take care when quoting. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
Can you take this personal argument off the list, please? You are wrong about what constitutes plagiarism, and this is now completely off topic. Thank you. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-11-23 5:20 PM webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Now please do not call someone guilty of plagiarism unless you have proof of that act and not just opinions. You have admitted taking word lists from multiple sources without giving attribution to the sources. That is plagiarism. Your compilation of Canadian English words is useless as a spellchecker. Having both the standard Canadian English and US English variants of the spelling of a word show as correct is ridiculous and makes your lists useless. As you said you are not a linguist. You ignorance of the proper compilation of a useful spell checker is obvious. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] messages returned
Good afternoon I am trying to post a message, or rather repons to another one, but my messages are rejected. Although I DID sent a message from this computer / mail address a few days ago. (I did not change anything here on my computer ...) What is it, that I am making wrong this time? Below the first part of a rather lengthy error message. xx Your mail could not be delivered due to the following error. users@global.libreoffice.org: host bilbo.documentfoundation.org[178.63.91.70] said: 550 5.7.1 users@global.libreoffice.org: Recipient address rejected: Mail appears to be spam or forged and is rejected due to policy. Using cached results - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries. (in reply to RCPT TO command) Thank you. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 2012-11-24 12:04 AM MR wrote: Can you take this personal argument off the list, please? It is not a personal argument. It is a matter of principal You are wrong about what constitutes plagiarism, and this is now completely off topic. Taking someone's work without giving attribution for it is plagiarism. Period That is the minor point about this miserable excuse of a spell checker. The main point is that this word list is complete pile of shite and worthless as a Canadian English spell checker. I pity anyone who actually uses it and ends up using it. They will end up with a lot of misspelled words. If some bloody wanker want to waste his time compiling a worthless compilation of words let him. However, to pretend it is a usable spell checker for Canadian English is reprehensible. Any promotion of it as such should be expunged from all LibreOffice web pages, and it should be denounced on all lists and forums Thank you. You're not welcome. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 11/24/2012 01:23 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2012-11-24 12:04 AM MR wrote: Can you take this personal argument off the list, please? It is not a personal argument. It is a matter of principal What principal? You are wrong about what constitutes plagiarism, and this is now completely off topic. Taking someone's work without giving attribution for it is plagiarism. Period I think you do not what plagiary is. It was always stated that the lists were compiled from a variety of unnamed sources. The original work is the location and compilation from these lists. The issue is not whether the lists are credited but what is the actual claim. that determines plagiary. That is the minor point about this miserable excuse of a spell checker. The main point is that this word list is complete pile of shite and worthless as a Canadian English spell checker. I pity anyone who actually uses it and ends up using it. They will end up with a lot of misspelled words. The issue is what do the sources say having lived in the Toronto suburbs (Buffalo, NY) my observation was there were many American spellings used in informal documents. Official documents tended to follow more closely UK spellings than US. If some bloody wanker want to waste his time compiling a worthless compilation of words let him. However, to pretend it is a usable spell checker for Canadian English is reprehensible. Any promotion of it as such should be expunged from all LibreOffice web pages, and it should be denounced on all lists and forums Thank you. You're not welcome. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Collate print option not working
Le 24/11/12 00:36, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Hi all, with packages other than LO. It is up to the developers to get the print commands in LO and the commands from the OS commands for the printers to match up. The problem is that the developers do not have all of the 1,000 or more printers to test on. I second those remarks. The origins of most of the print problems that people are experiencing today (the bug list is already quite long) lies in the decision to switch to CUPS as the printing engine rather than Postscript. This decision was made sometime during OpenOffice.org 3.3 development by the then project warden Sun/Oracle. The problem is that CUPS is not homogeneously implemented across all OSes and all distributions, some distribs patch their version of CUPS quite heavily, some use a combination of CUPS and Gutenprint and some just do their own thing. The upshot of this is that many of the printer driver features that could previously be hand-tailored by editing a PPD file are no longer supported for certain printer models. So now, users are dependent on the CUPS printer driver being capable of supporting all those options and that those options are interpreted correctly by the CUPS engine used in LO (which has its own bugs/deficiencies) - sigh. There has been some discussion on the developer list as to what to do about the problems, but unfortunately, I didn't seem to be able to draw any conclusions from what had been decided. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] messages returned
On 11/24/2012 01:19 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good afternoon I am trying to post a message, or rather repons to another one, but my messages are rejected. Although I DID sent a message from this computer / mail address a few days ago. (I did not change anything here on my computer ...) What is it, that I am making wrong this time? Below the first part of a rather lengthy error message. xx Your mail could not be delivered due to the following error. users@global.libreoffice.org: host bilbo.documentfoundation.org[178.63.91.70] said: 550 5.7.1 users@global.libreoffice.org: Recipient address rejected: Mail appears to be spam or forged and is rejected due to policy. Using cached results - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries. (in reply to RCPT TO command) Thank you. Thomas Your message this time made it through to the list. It appears it did not like something in the header such as possibly your time stamp or a time stamp or address of one of the relays. I have no idea how one could reply to fast when manually sending an email. The fact you did send one successfully would indicate that the problem has been corrected or there was a specific problem with the email you were responding to. 5.7.1 is the error code for spam. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Collate print option not working
On 11/23/2012 05:25 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I finally got time to work on this problem. As a result of some helpful replies to my original posting, I have made some progress with this subject problem and I am making this posting in case it may help others. I changed my CUPS printer driver from the HP Laserjet 8150 Series Postscript (en) to the HP Laserjet 8150 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.2 driver and now I can print the LO-generated PDF file of my 3-page document in Adobe Acrobat reader 9 perfectly. Collation and number of copies (2) are correct. Since Reader 9 now prints the correct number of copies and collation, the problem is no longer the CUPS driver. With that baseline said, LO printing now prints double the number of copies (4 in this case of specifying 2), but the collation is now correct (1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3). So, there still seems to be something wrong with LO printing in this area. I just tried specifying the number of copies at 3 and got 9 copies!! So this is not merely doubling, it is squaring!! In deference to the forests of the world, I am not going any higher in copies with this testing. This problem is not a show-stopper for me. I have other ways to print multiple copies. I just found this LO printing action as something unexpected. Thanks to everyone who replied to my original posting. Girvin Herr You might try using localhost:631 to access the CUPS system directly and see if there any settings that you use there. Girvin R. Herr wrote: Webmaster, See below for answers to your questions. webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: snip What version of Linux are you using? Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, Opensuse, etc., etc.? Slackware 12.2 (K2.6.27) Since you run Linux, can you try creating a PDF file for your document and then use the default viewer package for PDF to open it. Then go to your printer's options and try to print 2 or 3 copies of the document with the collate option. Now that got interesting! I tried this using Adobe Acrobat Reader to print the PDF file and although I selected 2 copies, collated, I got one copy! I then tried 3 copies and still only got one copy. snip What printer are your using? Which driver set? Original-manufacture-style, CUPS-style or GhostScript-style? Manually installed or did the Linux version find the printer driver and installed it automatically? I am using an HP Laserjet 8150DN, CUPS 1.3.11, on AppSocket/HP JetDirect and the HP Laserjet 8150 Series Postscript (en) driver. When I installed it, CUPS found the printer on my network automagically with the Find New Printers option, but I continued to install it manually using the CUPS wizard. I did not opt for the Foomatic or Gutenprint drivers, thinking they would not be needed, since the printer has Postscript emulation, and a simple Postscript driver should suffice. Now I may go back and rethink that decision. I noticed there are two other drivers I may try: Foomatic and CUPS Gutenprint v5.2.2. snip Try the Export to PDF for one copy of the document and then try and print the duplex and collated document that way. If it works, then it is a LO printer option issue. If it does not work properly, then it is a printer/driver issue. My Epson has a problem with LO and my HP has a driver issue, the last time I tried it - which was a few months back when I was still running Ubuntu 10.04. snip Thanks for the help. You may be onto something with the driver. I will try the other drivers and report back. Girvin Herr -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Collate print option not working
Hi, Debian 5, CUPS, Brother HL6050D I solved printing problems by 1) add a cups-filter to the ppd, that manipulates the final postscript file (in my case I added a PJL reset command) 2) use a basic makro (see oo bug 88333) arg(1).name=Collate arg(1).value=true arg(0).name=CopyCount arg(0).value=1 oDoc.print (arg()) Have a wonderful day W. Am Samstag, 24. November 2012 schrieb Alexander Thurgood: Le 24/11/12 00:36, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Hi all, with packages other than LO. It is up to the developers to get the print commands in LO and the commands from the OS commands for the printers to match up. The problem is that the developers do not have all of the 1,000 or more printers to test on. I second those remarks. The origins of most of the print problems that people are experiencing today (the bug list is already quite long) lies in the decision to switch to CUPS as the printing engine rather than Postscript. This decision was made sometime during OpenOffice.org 3.3 development by the then project warden Sun/Oracle. The problem is that CUPS is not homogeneously implemented across all OSes and all distributions, some distribs patch their version of CUPS quite heavily, some use a combination of CUPS and Gutenprint and some just do their own thing. The upshot of this is that many of the printer driver features that could previously be hand-tailored by editing a PPD file are no longer supported for certain printer models. So now, users are dependent on the CUPS printer driver being capable of supporting all those options and that those options are interpreted correctly by the CUPS engine used in LO (which has its own bugs/deficiencies) - sigh. There has been some discussion on the developer list as to what to do about the problems, but unfortunately, I didn't seem to be able to draw any conclusions from what had been decided. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: 3 new very large English dictionaries are now online
On 2012-11-24 1:14 AM Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/24/2012 01:23 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: It is not a personal argument. It is a matter of principal What principal? Principle. Stupid typo. Taking someone's work without giving attribution for it is plagiarism. Period I think you do not what plagiary is. I know what plagiarism is. It was always stated that the lists were compiled from a variety of unnamed sources. The original work is the location and compilation from these lists. The issue is not whether the lists are credited but what is the actual claim. that determines plagiary. Try using that argument in an university essay or an academic paper. Most word lists I've looked at, including the LibreOffice spellcheckers, are copyrighted. An usual condition for the reuse of them is that attribution be given. That is the minor point about this miserable excuse of a spell checker. The main point is that this word list is complete pile of shite and worthless as a Canadian English spell checker. I pity anyone who actually uses it and ends up using it. They will end up with a lot of misspelled words. The issue is what do the sources say having lived in the Toronto suburbs (Buffalo, NY) my observation was there were many American spellings used in informal documents. Official documents tended to follow more closely UK spellings than US. No. The issue is what is the correct standard spelling for Canadian English. Some words follow the UK spellings, others the US spellings. And there are uniquely Canadian words. If some bloody wanker want to waste his time compiling a worthless compilation of words let him. However, to pretend it is a usable spell checker for Canadian English is reprehensible. Any promotion of it as such should be expunged from all LibreOffice web pages, and it should be denounced on all lists and forums -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
