Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Marion Noel Lodge
Hi Hank,

I haven't been following this thread closely, but it seem like you are
experiencing some of the same problems I had using Base HSQLDB.  I
eventually decided to move my Accounting Project to the H2 Database Engine,
(see http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html).

Some of the many advantages of H2 are -
- Separate files for Data and Project
- Can be run in single or multi-user mode
- Users report successfully running very large databases
- An active users forum

I have found H2 to be very stable and have not regretted making the change.
If you are interested at all, I can point you to a very good tutorial for
replacing HSQLDB with H2.

This may not be what you are looking for, but it's probably worth your
while at least having a look at what H2 has to offer.

Noel
--
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lodg...@gmail.com


On 27 January 2013 17:24, Hank Alper hankal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex, Mark, Tom,
 You guys scare me !  I'm beginning to think I'd better start looking for a
 new back end. I've put a lot of work into this project. Tom, this is not a
 small database like an address book. After normalizing, my design has 16
 tables.( with a few more coming as I've discovered  as I feed more data
 into it.) If I connect to an external server is there any way I can save my
 forms and reports? Or shall I have to start anew ? My tables, queries and
 views were all produced using  SQL and I have text copies of all of them to
 feed any server I might select. Transfer of data becomes a problem, of
 course.
 Hank

 On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood 
 alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:

  Le 21/01/13 16:01, Mark Stanton a écrit :
 
   Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is
  installed and
   used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not the
  default
   setting.
 
  As I mentioned in my answer to Tom, if you use an external version of
  hsqldb, it can only be the same version number as the internal version
  provided with LO, else the old ODB files can no longer be opened. In
  other words, you can not install an external hsqldb jar and expect your
  old ODB(hsqldb) files to keep working, as this will throw an error.
 
  So yes, it still remains a possibility, but one that you may want to
  avoid if you still have old ODB files that use the internal hsqldb with
  an older revision number than the externa jar you plug into LO.
 
  Alex
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Dr. Philipp Walderdorff

Thanks for answer
After several trys to delete and reinstall libreOfficeImpress I looked 
for any file in the computer:

sudo find / -name libreoffice* -print
and deleted all of them and installed  libreOfficeImpress new
from ubuntuSoftwareCenter
And ... its working :-)

In one of these files must have been the wrong configuration, which 
happened through copy and paste the 2 minute long video to 
libreOfficeImpress. I have read, that the correct way to input a video I 
have to use the input-button. Yet I did not try the big video, but I 
can go on working with libreOffice, which makes me happy :-)


If the problem will occure with the big video, I will try H2

Thanks for help


On 2013-01-27 10:36, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:

Hi Hank,

I haven't been following this thread closely, but it seem like you are
experiencing some of the same problems I had using Base HSQLDB.  I
eventually decided to move my Accounting Project to the H2 Database Engine,
(see http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html).

Some of the many advantages of H2 are -
- Separate files for Data and Project
- Can be run in single or multi-user mode
- Users report successfully running very large databases
- An active users forum

I have found H2 to be very stable and have not regretted making the change.
If you are interested at all, I can point you to a very good tutorial for
replacing HSQLDB with H2.

This may not be what you are looking for, but it's probably worth your
while at least having a look at what H2 has to offer.

Noel
--
Noel Lodge
lodg...@gmail.com


On 27 January 2013 17:24, Hank Alperhankal...@gmail.com  wrote:


Hi Alex, Mark, Tom,
You guys scare me !  I'm beginning to think I'd better start looking for a
new back end. I've put a lot of work into this project. Tom, this is not a
small database like an address book. After normalizing, my design has 16
tables.( with a few more coming as I've discovered  as I feed more data
into it.) If I connect to an external server is there any way I can save my
forms and reports? Or shall I have to start anew ? My tables, queries and
views were all produced using  SQL and I have text copies of all of them to
feed any server I might select. Transfer of data becomes a problem, of
course.
Hank

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood
alex.thurg...@gmail.com  wrote:


Le 21/01/13 16:01, Mark Stanton a écrit :


Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is

installed and

used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not the

default

setting.

As I mentioned in my answer to Tom, if you use an external version of
hsqldb, it can only be the same version number as the internal version
provided with LO, else the old ODB files can no longer be opened. In
other words, you can not install an external hsqldb jar and expect your
old ODB(hsqldb) files to keep working, as this will throw an error.

So yes, it still remains a possibility, but one that you may want to
avoid if you still have old ODB files that use the internal hsqldb with
an older revision number than the externa jar you plug into LO.

Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

2013-01-27 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

Den 26.01.2013 22:59, skreiv upscope:

On Saturday, January 26, 2013 08:02:34 PM Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

For some reasons I want to try the upcoming version 4.0. On the web
page, they say ”You are not recommended to use LibreOffice pre-release
builds for mission-critical purposes”. So obviously I need a stable
version as well, like the 3.5.7.2 that I have installed right now.

So I presume that I can use both versions at the same time, that they
are ”isolated” from each other as long as 4.0 is a pre-release, right?

But before I'm going to install it, I want to know rather than just assume…

So, is it possible? If so, can I just install the debs (operating
system=Ubuntu 12.04) and it will just work? Will I be able to run both
versions at the same time safely?


Johnny Rosenberg

In the Linux enviroment I have 3.6.3 (openSUSE verssion), 3.6.4 and 4.0-dev
(from libreoffice download page0 all installed and running together at times.
install generated the icons and i Just select the one for the version I want.
Will as long at each version has a different name.

Not sure about the windows versions, I'll leave that to one of the Windows
users.
Russ

No problem in Windows.
As a translator I am running version 3.6.4.3 and version 4.0.0.0.beta2 
(together with MS Excel) at the same time without any conflicts.

Kolbjoern


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
And to allay your fears a little Hank,

the job of moving your *data* to a new back end can be as easy as 
dragging and dropping tables.  Setting up the new back end might 
introduce you to some new ideas so it might take a little to get your 
head around it, but once that's done it might not be hugely 
difficult.

It's possible, of course, that there will be some little niggling 
problems that need to be resolved manually, but it's possible that 
the move can go relatively smoothly and easily.

Regards
Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
That is something that has been said by quite a fe people so i'm kinda happy to 
rely on it for migrating the database i'm vaguely working on.  

At the moment my main worry is getting a couple of the smaller tables into 
Base's internal back-end and if i manage that then i hope to just simply copy 
the rest of the tables out of Access and directly into something more sensible. 
 There was an excellent post about doing that eons ago.  Although i might have 
problems finding it, at least i know it's around.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013, 11:34
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder
 
And to allay your fears a little Hank,

the job of moving your *data* to a new back end can be as easy as 
dragging and dropping tables.  Setting up the new back end might 
introduce you to some new ideas so it might take a little to get your 
head around it, but once that's done it might not be hugely 
difficult.

It's possible, of course, that there will be some little niggling 
problems that need to be resolved manually, but it's possible that 
the move can go relatively smoothly and easily.

Regards
Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

2013-01-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It should be fine in Ubuntu 12.04.  I'm not sure why people are talking about 
Windows but this guide covers both anyway
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

(to answer my own questions it's probably because there's been a lot of traffic 
on-list so people have to skim through quickly and most questions tend to be 
about Windows)
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Kolbjørn Stuestøl kolbjo...@stuestoel.no
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013, 11:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5
 
Den 26.01.2013 22:59, skreiv upscope:
 On Saturday, January 26, 2013 08:02:34 PM Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 For some reasons I want to try the upcoming version 4.0. On the web
 page, they say ”You are not recommended to use LibreOffice pre-release
 builds for mission-critical purposes”. So obviously I need a stable
 version as well, like the 3.5.7.2 that I have installed right now.

 So I presume that I can use both versions at the same time, that they
 are ”isolated” from each other as long as 4.0 is a pre-release, right?

 But before I'm going to install it, I want to know rather than just assume…

 So, is it possible? If so, can I just install the debs (operating
 system=Ubuntu 12.04) and it will just work? Will I be able to run both
 versions at the same time safely?


 Johnny Rosenberg
 In the Linux enviroment I have 3.6.3 (openSUSE verssion), 3.6.4 and 4.0-dev
 (from libreoffice download page0 all installed and running together at times.
 install generated the icons and i Just select the one for the version I want.
 Will as long at each version has a different name.

 Not sure about the windows versions, I'll leave that to one of the Windows
 users.
 Russ
No problem in Windows.
As a translator I am running version 3.6.4.3 and version 4.0.0.0.beta2 
(together with MS Excel) at the same time without any conflicts.
Kolbjoern



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
Preferably before trying the big video please go to 
Tools - Options - Memory
and radically increase the various settings in there so that the program can 
cope with the video.  Does the whole video really have to be embedded in the 
slide-show/file or could it just be linked to and then the 2 files carried 
around together?  It might seems a little clunkier that way but it does 
increase flexibility for the longer-term or if the show needs to appear on 
lower-spec machines (such as netbooks or tablets or hand-helds).   It's not 
always possible easily so don't worry too much about it.  It's just a thought.  

Several assumptions there that 'need' to be demolished.  
1.  LibreOffice is one single program/application with several different parts 
to it.  Those parts should really be called modules rather than apps but we 
tend to use the wrong word to minimise endless repetitions of explanations and 
discussions which are mostly irrelevant to whatever problems the original 
poster had. Obviously it back-fires sometimes as in this case.  So, Writer, 
Draw, Impress, Calc and Math are all 'just' modules within the program and the 
1 single program is LibreOffice.  You dealt with that just fine in the end but 
sometimes it's a struggle to explain.  

2.  Reinstalling does not reset settings nor configurations.  You fixed a much 
more serious issue with the reinstall.  The program/package itself 'must' have 
been broken in some way.  Perhaps a corrupted download or something.  

Generally if you have weird problems and want to get back to factory defaults 
just to see if it was somethign in the settings or perhaps some 3rd party 
Extension struggling then just rename the User Profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

Actually on Friday i was able to rapidly fix a broken Gimp session on a 
colleague's machine by following that familiar link rather than trying to find 
my way through Gimp's own documentation.  Not that Gimp's is bad, just that i 
had under a minute to findfix.  

So, welcome in and regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Dr. Philipp Walderdorff ph.walderdo...@gmx.at
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013, 11:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Report Builder
 
Thanks for answer
After several trys to delete and reinstall LibreOfficeImpress I looked 
for any file in the computer:
sudo find / -name libreoffice* -print
and deleted all of them and installed  LibreOfficeImpress new
from Ubuntu Software Center
And ... its working :-)

In one of these files must have been the wrong configuration, which 
happened through copy and paste the 2 minute long video to 
LibreOfficeImpress. I have read, that the correct way to input a video I 
have to use the input-button. Yet I did not try the big video, but I 
can go on working with LibreOffice, which makes me happy :-)

If the problem will occure with the big video, I will try H2

Thanks for help


On 2013-01-27 10:36, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:
 Hi Hank,

 I haven't been following this thread closely, but it seem like you are
 experiencing some of the same problems I had using Base HSQLDB.  I
 eventually decided to move my Accounting Project to the H2 Database Engine,
 (see http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html).

 Some of the many advantages of H2 are -
 - Separate files for Data and Project
 - Can be run in single or multi-user mode
 - Users report successfully running very large databases
 - An active users forum

 I have found H2 to be very stable and have not regretted making the change.
 If you are interested at all, I can point you to a very good tutorial for
 replacing HSQLDB with H2.

 This may not be what you are looking for, but it's probably worth your
 while at least having a look at what H2 has to offer.

 Noel
 --
 Noel Lodge
 lodg...@gmail.com


 On 27 January 2013 17:24, Hank Alperhankal...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi Alex, Mark, Tom,
 You guys scare me !  I'm beginning to think I'd better start looking for a
 new back end. I've put a lot of work into this project. Tom, this is not a
 small database like an address book. After normalizing, my design has 16
 tables.( with a few more coming as I've discovered  as I feed more data
 into it.) If I connect to an external server is there any way I can save my
 forms and reports? Or shall I have to start anew ? My tables, queries and
 views were all produced using  SQL and I have text copies of all of them to
 feed any server I might select. Transfer of data becomes a problem, of
 course.
 Hank

 On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood
 alex.thurg...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Le 21/01/13 16:01, Mark Stanton a écrit :

 Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is
 installed and
 used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not the
 default
 setting.
 As I mentioned in my answer to Tom, if you use an external version of
 hsqldb, it can only be the same version 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Dan Lewis
 Many of these advantages also apply to HSQLDB if you know what 
you are doing. I refer to using Base to connect to the database rather 
than it be embedded. In this case, tables, queries, forms, and reports 
can be copied from the embedded database to the external one. This is 
done using HSQLDB 1.8 database engine in Base. Then you should be able 
to upgrade Base to using HSQLDB 2.8 which includes features not 
available in the 1.8 version. This does require having a version of 
LibreOffice dedicated for this purpose (for example, using 3.6.5.2 for 
HSQLDB 2.8, and 4.0.0 for embedded databases).
 The draft of chapter 3 of the Base contains discussion of this in 
the last section.


--Dan

On 01/27/2013 04:36 AM, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:

Hi Hank,

I haven't been following this thread closely, but it seem like you are
experiencing some of the same problems I had using Base HSQLDB.  I
eventually decided to move my Accounting Project to the H2 Database Engine,
(see http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html).

Some of the many advantages of H2 are -
- Separate files for Data and Project
- Can be run in single or multi-user mode
- Users report successfully running very large databases
- An active users forum

I have found H2 to be very stable and have not regretted making the change.
If you are interested at all, I can point you to a very good tutorial for
replacing HSQLDB with H2.

This may not be what you are looking for, but it's probably worth your
while at least having a look at what H2 has to offer.

Noel
--
Noel Lodge
lodg...@gmail.com


On 27 January 2013 17:24, Hank Alper hankal...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Alex, Mark, Tom,
You guys scare me !  I'm beginning to think I'd better start looking for a
new back end. I've put a lot of work into this project. Tom, this is not a
small database like an address book. After normalizing, my design has 16
tables.( with a few more coming as I've discovered  as I feed more data
into it.) If I connect to an external server is there any way I can save my
forms and reports? Or shall I have to start anew ? My tables, queries and
views were all produced using  SQL and I have text copies of all of them to
feed any server I might select. Transfer of data becomes a problem, of
course.
Hank

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood 
alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:


Le 21/01/13 16:01, Mark Stanton a écrit :


Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is

installed and

used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not the

default

setting.

As I mentioned in my answer to Tom, if you use an external version of
hsqldb, it can only be the same version number as the internal version
provided with LO, else the old ODB files can no longer be opened. In
other words, you can not install an external hsqldb jar and expect your
old ODB(hsqldb) files to keep working, as this will throw an error.

So yes, it still remains a possibility, but one that you may want to
avoid if you still have old ODB files that use the internal hsqldb with
an older revision number than the externa jar you plug into LO.

Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

2013-01-27 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2013/1/27 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:
 Hi :)
 It should be fine in Ubuntu 12.04.  I'm not sure why people are talking about 
 Windows

That felt strange to me too, since I mentioned my operating system in
my original post. Even stranger is that I received that message at
all, since I have a filter that is supposed move all messages that
contains the word ”Windows” (or any of some other words) from my inbox
so I never have to read them, but obviously this does not work, which
doesn't have anything to do with LibreOffice anyway, so this is way
off topic…

 but this guide covers both anyway
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

Thanks. I'll take a look at it later.


Johnny Rosenberg


 (to answer my own questions it's probably because there's been a lot of 
 traffic on-list so people have to skim through quickly and most questions 
 tend to be about Windows)
 Good luck and regards from
 Tom :)






 From: Kolbjørn Stuestøl kolbjo...@stuestoel.no
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013, 11:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

Den 26.01.2013 22:59, skreiv upscope:
 On Saturday, January 26, 2013 08:02:34 PM Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 For some reasons I want to try the upcoming version 4.0. On the web
 page, they say ”You are not recommended to use LibreOffice pre-release
 builds for mission-critical purposes”. So obviously I need a stable
 version as well, like the 3.5.7.2 that I have installed right now.

 So I presume that I can use both versions at the same time, that they
 are ”isolated” from each other as long as 4.0 is a pre-release, right?

 But before I'm going to install it, I want to know rather than just assume…

 So, is it possible? If so, can I just install the debs (operating
 system=Ubuntu 12.04) and it will just work? Will I be able to run both
 versions at the same time safely?


 Johnny Rosenberg
 In the Linux enviroment I have 3.6.3 (openSUSE verssion), 3.6.4 and 4.0-dev
 (from libreoffice download page0 all installed and running together at 
 times.
 install generated the icons and i Just select the one for the version I 
 want.
 Will as long at each version has a different name.

 Not sure about the windows versions, I'll leave that to one of the Windows
 users.
 Russ
No problem in Windows.
As a translator I am running version 3.6.4.3 and version 4.0.0.0.beta2
(together with MS Excel) at the same time without any conflicts.
Kolbjoern



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[libreoffice-users] Filtered or Conditionally Defined Data Ranges in Charts?

2013-01-27 Thread Matt Price
Hello,

I'm having a lot of trouble doing something that I figure is actually
pretty simple to do -- I hope folks can help me out!

I have a simple dataset (this is from my duaghter's homework
assignment actually!)  which I've uploaded to a google doc just so you
can see what it looks like:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqhzp2yOOf0zdGc1MHozTm1XblZTdWVLN2JkcE4ySUE

I want to be able to make one simple scatter plot of one column (Time
of Day) against another column (Response Time in Minutes).  But I
want to use the value of a third column (Company) to FILTER the
results, and graph the filtered results against each other.

So, in this case, we have two companies, Metro and Arrow.  I want
my graph to display the Arrow Datapoints in (say) Blue, and the Metro
datapoints in (say) red.  I feel like this ought to be easy to do, by
defining a filter condition in the data range.  This doesn't seem
possible though. And if I try to do it through the graphical
interface, using filters, say, then I can only ever graph one filter
condition at a time.

The only workaround I've found is to sort the data by company name,
then define the data ranges of 2 data series based on that.  But if I
happen to resort my data, or add new rows, then the chart won't update
dynamically in an appropriate way.

Is there a good way to do what I'm trying to do?

Thank you for your help!

Matt

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[libreoffice-users] Reset the profile

2013-01-27 Thread C. H. D.


Hello! Regarding this bug report:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59270

What steps should I follow to reset the profile?

I have already done:

rm -r ./.config/libreoffice/4

on Debian Linux.

Any ideas? :)

(Basically, I would like to confirm a bug but I do not know how to reset the 
profile except that rm command.)

Are there other things I should do to confirm the bug? What are they? :)

Regards,
C. H. D.






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[libreoffice-users] Left Justification in Stacked Scalable Braces

2013-01-27 Thread Taang Zomi
Writer → Insert → Object → Formula

At the Equation Editor at the bottom of the screen, type the following:


left lbrace alignc stack {-continuant # -nasal # +voiced } right rbrace


And the following will appear in the box in your document:


{- continuant}

{   - nasal}

{  * voice }

Regard the braces as continuous vertically.



The preceding appears:


 - continuant

- nasal

   + voice


 How can I make -continuant, -nasal, and +voice left-justified, as follows?


 {- continuant}

{- nasal   }

{+ voice  }


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reset the profile

2013-01-27 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 27/01/2013 at 16:19, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

 (Basically, I would like to confirm a bug but I do not know how to reset
 the profile except that rm command.)

You can use this command:
  soffice -env:UserInstallation=file:///tmp/lo-userprof/
It will tell LO to start with /tmp/lo-userprof/ as profile. Since it does not 
exist, it will create it with default package settings.

Of course you should change soffice part to path to soffice binary on your 
system 
(especially if you downloaded LO from website, then this binary probably isn't 
in your $PATH).

(C. H. D.: sorry for sending this reply off-list, directly to you. This was due 
to stupid setting of this mailing list, that any replies are by default sent 
to poster, not to mailing list.)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Left Justification in Stacked Scalable Braces

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:16 27/01/2013 -0500, Taang Zomi wrote:

Writer  Insert  Object  Formula
At the Equation Editor at the bottom of the screen, type the following:
left lbrace alignc stack {-continuant # -nasal # +voiced } right rbrace
And the following will appear in the box in your document:
{- continuant}
{   - nasal}
{  * voice }
Regard the braces as continuous vertically.
The preceding appears:
- continuant
- nasal
   + voice

How can I make -continuant, -nasal, and +voice left-justified, as follows?
{- continuant}
{- nasal   }
{+ voice  }


Easy: just change one letter.  For alignc (align centre) read 
alignl (align left).



Attachment: Left Justification in Stacked Scalable Braces.odt (16K)


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I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Left Justification in Stacked Scalable Braces

2013-01-27 Thread Taang Zomi
*Brian,

Thank you very, very  much for your help.  You saved my day.

Sincerely,

Taang Zomi*

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Date: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Left Justification in Stacked Scalable
Braces
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


At 11:16 27/01/2013 -0500, Taang Zomi wrote:

 Writer  Insert  Object  Formula
 At the Equation Editor at the bottom of the screen, type the following:
 left lbrace alignc stack {-continuant # -nasal # +voiced } right rbrace
 And the following will appear in the box in your document:
 {- continuant}
 {   - nasal}
 {  * voice }
 Regard the braces as continuous vertically.
 The preceding appears:
 - continuant
 - nasal
+ voice

 How can I make -continuant, -nasal, and +voice left-justified, as follows?
 {- continuant}
 {- nasal   }
 {+ voice  }


Easy: just change one letter.  For alignc (align centre) read alignl
(align left).


 Attachment: Left Justification in Stacked Scalable Braces.odt (16K)


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distributed, so no-one will have seen this.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Hank Alper
Hi Noel,
Thank you for pointing me to H2. It appears to offer so many advantages
over the embedded HSQLDB in LO Base that I shall certainly spend some time
examining
its possibilities.  I'd definitely like to see the tutorial for replacing
HSQLDB with H2.
Hank

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Marion  Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Hank,

 I haven't been following this thread closely, but it seem like you are
 experiencing some of the same problems I had using Base HSQLDB.  I
 eventually decided to move my Accounting Project to the H2 Database Engine,
 (see http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html).

 Some of the many advantages of H2 are -
 - Separate files for Data and Project
 - Can be run in single or multi-user mode
 - Users report successfully running very large databases
 - An active users forum

 I have found H2 to be very stable and have not regretted making the change.
 If you are interested at all, I can point you to a very good tutorial for
 replacing HSQLDB with H2.

 This may not be what you are looking for, but it's probably worth your
 while at least having a look at what H2 has to offer.

 Noel
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 On 27 January 2013 17:24, Hank Alper hankal...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Alex, Mark, Tom,
  You guys scare me !  I'm beginning to think I'd better start looking for
 a
  new back end. I've put a lot of work into this project. Tom, this is not
 a
  small database like an address book. After normalizing, my design has 16
  tables.( with a few more coming as I've discovered  as I feed more data
  into it.) If I connect to an external server is there any way I can save
 my
  forms and reports? Or shall I have to start anew ? My tables, queries and
  views were all produced using  SQL and I have text copies of all of them
 to
  feed any server I might select. Transfer of data becomes a problem, of
  course.
  Hank
 
  On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood 
  alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Le 21/01/13 16:01, Mark Stanton a écrit :
  
Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is
   installed and
used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not the
   default
setting.
  
   As I mentioned in my answer to Tom, if you use an external version of
   hsqldb, it can only be the same version number as the internal version
   provided with LO, else the old ODB files can no longer be opened. In
   other words, you can not install an external hsqldb jar and expect your
   old ODB(hsqldb) files to keep working, as this will throw an error.
  
   So yes, it still remains a possibility, but one that you may want to
   avoid if you still have old ODB files that use the internal hsqldb with
   an older revision number than the externa jar you plug into LO.
  
   Alex
  
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

2013-01-27 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

Den 27.01.2013 15:33, skreiv Johnny Rosenberg:

2013/1/27 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

Hi :)
It should be fine in Ubuntu 12.04.  I'm not sure why people are talking about 
Windows

That felt strange to me too, since I mentioned my operating system in
my original post.

I thought this forum was for *all* users.
I was answering the question because I thought there could be some 
peoples running another OS wondering whether running different versions 
of LibreOffice at the same time is possible.


Kolbjoern


Even stranger is that I received that message at
all, since I have a filter that is supposed move all messages that
contains the word ”Windows” (or any of some other words) from my inbox
so I never have to read them, but obviously this does not work, which
doesn't have anything to do with LibreOffice anyway, so this is way
off topic…


but this guide covers both anyway
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

Thanks. I'll take a look at it later.


Johnny Rosenberg


(to answer my own questions it's probably because there's been a lot of traffic 
on-list so people have to skim through quickly and most questions tend to be 
about Windows)
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)







From: Kolbjørn Stuestøl kolbjo...@stuestoel.no
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013, 11:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

Den 26.01.2013 22:59, skreiv upscope:

On Saturday, January 26, 2013 08:02:34 PM Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

For some reasons I want to try the upcoming version 4.0. On the web
page, they say ”You are not recommended to use LibreOffice pre-release
builds for mission-critical purposes”. So obviously I need a stable
version as well, like the 3.5.7.2 that I have installed right now.

So I presume that I can use both versions at the same time, that they
are ”isolated” from each other as long as 4.0 is a pre-release, right?

But before I'm going to install it, I want to know rather than just assume…

So, is it possible? If so, can I just install the debs (operating
system=Ubuntu 12.04) and it will just work? Will I be able to run both
versions at the same time safely?


Johnny Rosenberg

In the Linux enviroment I have 3.6.3 (openSUSE verssion), 3.6.4 and 4.0-dev
(from libreoffice download page0 all installed and running together at times.
install generated the icons and i Just select the one for the version I want.
Will as long at each version has a different name.

Not sure about the windows versions, I'll leave that to one of the Windows
users.
Russ

No problem in Windows.
As a translator I am running version 3.6.4.3 and version 4.0.0.0.beta2
(together with MS Excel) at the same time without any conflicts.
Kolbjoern






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[libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it seems 
mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style does not 
seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I misunderstanding 
something here?


Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reset the profile

2013-01-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
This link is another way to  reset the user profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013, 15:19
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Reset the profile
 


Hello! Regarding this bug report:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59270

What steps should I follow to reset the profile?

I have already done:

rm -r ./.config/libreoffice/4

on Debian Linux.

Any ideas? :)

(Basically, I would like to confirm a bug but I do not know how to reset the 
profile except that rm command.)

Are there other things I should do to confirm the bug? What are they? :)

Regards,
C. H. D.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 01/27/2013 02:07 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


Thanks,



What are you trying to do?

subscript of a smaller sized character or do the same with a full size 
character?


Uncheck the Automatic box next to the Raise/lower by box.

The full size character will lower the given persentage with the 
Subscript option checked.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread Kevin O'Brien

On 01/27/2013 03:10 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

On 01/27/2013 02:07 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


Thanks,



What are you trying to do?

subscript of a smaller sized character or do the same with a full size 
character?


Uncheck the Automatic box next to the Raise/lower by box.

The full size character will lower the given persentage with the 
Subscript option checked


Ah, thank you. All of that was turned off, but your directions showed me 
how to modify the style to do what I wanted.


Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:07 27/01/2013 -0500, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


I'm guessing here, but I think I can see its usefulness.  You set 
drop caps as a property of your paragraph or paragraph style, of 
course.  You may not wish the dropped cap to have the same character 
style as the rest of the paragraph text.  So the Drop Caps tab of the 
Paragraph or Paragraph Style dialogue gives you the opportunity to 
select a separate character style to be applied to the dropped caps 
themselves.  I'm guessing that the Drop Caps character style is 
provided as a convenient style to use for this purpose: you can 
select it in the paragraph or paragraph style properties and then set 
the character properties that you want in the Drop Caps character style.


You could alternatively create your own character style(s), of 
course.  But that's true of all the predefined styles.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 01/27/2013 03:35 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 14:07 27/01/2013 -0500, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


I'm guessing here, but I think I can see its usefulness.  You set drop 
caps as a property of your paragraph or paragraph style, of course.  
You may not wish the dropped cap to have the same character style as 
the rest of the paragraph text.  So the Drop Caps tab of the Paragraph 
or Paragraph Style dialogue gives you the opportunity to select a 
separate character style to be applied to the dropped caps 
themselves.  I'm guessing that the Drop Caps character style is 
provided as a convenient style to use for this purpose: you can select 
it in the paragraph or paragraph style properties and then set the 
character properties that you want in the Drop Caps character style.


You could alternatively create your own character style(s), of 
course.  But that's true of all the predefined styles.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


I have seen this done with books. the take the first character of the 
first paragraph of a chapter and use a larger or different font style of 
character.  They have been doing this thing since the early days of 
printing.  Some people call this type of thing illumination or 
something like that.  Many times the that first character is in color or 
some really fancy font style [as we call it now].


There are some really interesting things that can be done with Writer 
and its font/text styling, but I know only a few of them.


Sometimes it is easier for me to do it with graphic images or changing 
the font, but sometimes it is harder that way.


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[libreoffice-users] Numbering Equations

2013-01-27 Thread Taang Zomi
In LibreOffiice 3.3  Math Guide (0700MG33-MathGuide3.3.odt), on p. 14, the
following is written:

 *Numbering equations*

Equation numbering is one of LibreOffice Math’s best hidden features. The
steps are simple, but obscure:

   1.

   Start a new line.
   2.

   Type *fn* and then press *F3*.

 The *fn* is replaced by a numbered formula:

  [[equation: E = mc2] (2)

()

Now you can double-click on the formula to edit it. For example, here is
the Riemann Zeta function:
[equation: [Rieman Zeta Function]   (3)

You can reference an equation (“as shown in Equation (2)”) with these steps:

   1.

   Choose *Insert  Cross-reference* from the menu bar.
   2.

   On the *Cross-references* tab (Figure 17), under *Type*, select *Text*.
   3.

   Under *Selection*, select the equation number.
   4.

   Under *Format*, select *Reference*.



==

When I typed fn and pressed F3, nothing happened. In the document the fn I
typed appeared, not the desired result.


I do not know whether my F3 key did not work.

Can somebody kindly explain in step-by-step detail  how to number equations.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering Equations

2013-01-27 Thread Robert Funnell
It's possible to do what you're trying to do without the F3 key. Go to 
the Edit menu and select AutoText. You should see a list of 
categories. Expand the one called Standard. If you scroll down the 
resulting list, you should see the entry 'Formula Numbering'. Select 
it and then click on the Insert button. Your equation should appear.


Does this work for you?


On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Taang Zomi wrote:


In LibreOffiice 3.3  Math Guide (0700MG33-MathGuide3.3.odt), on p. 14, the
following is written:

*Numbering equations*

Equation numbering is one of LibreOffice Math’s best hidden features. The
steps are simple, but obscure:

  1.

  Start a new line.
  2.

  Type *fn* and then press *F3*.

The *fn* is replaced by a numbered formula:

 [[equation: E = mc2] (2)

()

Now you can double-click on the formula to edit it. For example, here is
the Riemann Zeta function:
[equation: [Rieman Zeta Function]   (3)

You can reference an equation (“as shown in Equation (2)”) with these steps:

  1.

  Choose *Insert  Cross-reference* from the menu bar.
  2.

  On the *Cross-references* tab (Figure 17), under *Type*, select *Text*.
  3.

  Under *Selection*, select the equation number.
  4.

  Under *Format*, select *Reference*.



==

When I typed fn and pressed F3, nothing happened. In the document the fn I
typed appeared, not the desired result.


I do not know whether my F3 key did not work.

Can somebody kindly explain in step-by-step detail  how to number equations.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Marion Noel Lodge
Hi Hank,

The URL for the HSQLDB to H2 tutorial is -

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=365296#365296

As you will see, I had asked a series of questions and dacm kindly came up
with a very comprehensive set of answers.  The steps he listed worked well
for me.

One point to watch when migrating each table. For Table name enter -
  Database name.PUBLIC.Table name
e.g. ROSTERS.PUBLIC.Availability

I think you can choose an alternative to PUBLIC, but I just went with the
default.

Regards,

Noel
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On 28 January 2013 04:15, Hank Alper hankal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Noel,
 Thank you for pointing me to H2. It appears to offer so many advantages
 over the embedded HSQLDB in LO Base that I shall certainly spend some time
 examining
 its possibilities.  I'd definitely like to see the tutorial for replacing
 HSQLDB with H2.
 Hank


 On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Marion  Noel Lodge lodg...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Hank,

 I haven't been following this thread closely, but it seem like you are
 experiencing some of the same problems I had using Base HSQLDB.  I
 eventually decided to move my Accounting Project to the H2 Database
 Engine,
 (see http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html).

 Some of the many advantages of H2 are -
 - Separate files for Data and Project
 - Can be run in single or multi-user mode
 - Users report successfully running very large databases
 - An active users forum

 I have found H2 to be very stable and have not regretted making the
 change.
 If you are interested at all, I can point you to a very good tutorial for
 replacing HSQLDB with H2.

 This may not be what you are looking for, but it's probably worth your
 while at least having a look at what H2 has to offer.

 Noel
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 On 27 January 2013 17:24, Hank Alper hankal...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Alex, Mark, Tom,
  You guys scare me !  I'm beginning to think I'd better start looking
 for a
  new back end. I've put a lot of work into this project. Tom, this is
 not a
  small database like an address book. After normalizing, my design has 16
  tables.( with a few more coming as I've discovered  as I feed more data
  into it.) If I connect to an external server is there any way I can
 save my
  forms and reports? Or shall I have to start anew ? My tables, queries
 and
  views were all produced using  SQL and I have text copies of all of
 them to
  feed any server I might select. Transfer of data becomes a problem, of
  course.
  Hank
 
  On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Alexander Thurgood 
  alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Le 21/01/13 16:01, Mark Stanton a écrit :
  
Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is
   installed and
used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not
 the
   default
setting.
  
   As I mentioned in my answer to Tom, if you use an external version of
   hsqldb, it can only be the same version number as the internal version
   provided with LO, else the old ODB files can no longer be opened. In
   other words, you can not install an external hsqldb jar and expect
 your
   old ODB(hsqldb) files to keep working, as this will throw an error.
  
   So yes, it still remains a possibility, but one that you may want to
   avoid if you still have old ODB files that use the internal hsqldb
 with
   an older revision number than the externa jar you plug into LO.
  
   Alex
  
  
  
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

2013-01-27 Thread NoOp
On 01/26/2013 11:02 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 For some reasons I want to try the upcoming version 4.0. On the web
 page, they say ”You are not recommended to use LibreOffice pre-release
 builds for mission-critical purposes”. So obviously I need a stable
 version as well, like the 3.5.7.2 that I have installed right now.
 
 So I presume that I can use both versions at the same time, that they
 are ”isolated” from each other as long as 4.0 is a pre-release, right?
 
 But before I'm going to install it, I want to know rather than just assume…
 
 So, is it possible? If so, can I just install the debs (operating
 system=Ubuntu 12.04) and it will just work? Will I be able to run both
 versions at the same time safely?

Luckily, LODev4 (linux only [1]) installs as a separate install:

$ locate versionrc
/opt/libreoffice/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.4/basis3.4/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.4/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.4/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/versionrc
/opt/lodev4.0/program/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4/program/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/versionrc
/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/versionrc

Install  then create a new generic launcher to
/opt/lodev4.0/program/soffice and you'll be fine. You can run at the
same time as LO 3.x.


[1] NHote to Windows users that are reading this, Please *read*:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
NOTE: This build is in a release configuration and will replace your
existing LibreOffice install on Windows!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering Equations

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Barker

At 18:04 27/01/2013 -0500, Taang Zomi wrote:
In LibreOffice 3.3 Math Guide (0700MG33-MathGuide3.3.odt), on p. 14, 
the following is written:


*Numbering equations*
Equation numbering is one of LibreOffice Math's best hidden 
features. The steps are simple, but obscure:

1. Start a new line.
2. Type *fn* and then press *F3*.
[...]

When I typed fn and pressed F3, nothing happened. In the document 
the fn I typed appeared, not the desired result.  I do not know 
whether my F3 key did not work.


I think what you may be doing (understandably) is to try this in a 
Math document - and I cannot see how it works there.  Instead, it 
works as described in a text (Writer) document.  Indeed, I notice 
that the version of the Math Guide for LibreOffice version 3.5 has 
corrected Equation numbering is one of LibreOffice Math's best 
hidden features to read Equation numbering is one of Writer's best 
hidden features.


In a text document, in a new paragraph or after a space, type fn 
and press F3.  A table with a single row of two columns appears, 
containing a dummy equation and the required number (as a 
field).  You need only to double-click the equation to open the Math 
window at the bottom of the window, where you can remove the dummy 
equation's definition and replace it with your own.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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