Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
More people know what ODF is. They realise they don't have to buy microsoft office at home to do school work and on it goes... On 23/07/14 15:26, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Even if it doesn't do anything else, at least it might force Microsoft into adding proper support for ODF into Office... ;-) On 22/07/14 23:21, Tim Lloyd wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Chart data
Hi! I'm trying to create a chart where when I add data I don't have to edit the data range each time to include the new row. I can't see how to do that. (Probably something I've missed). Can anyone help? Ta! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
Hmm, a huge public response and A rigorous process was undertaken which included considering over 500 public comments and talking directly to users. I'd hoped huge was much bigger than that. Oh well, at least the message got across. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Chart data
You are not missing anything, this has always been an OOo/LO/AOO limitation. As usual there is a workaround though :) See Comment 2 on this Enhancement request https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66250 -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Chart-data-tp4116442p4116449.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues Two governments in less than a week's time. Very good news! :) Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2014 07:29 PM, Anivar Aravind wrote: You can also make use of Pictures of Kerala Legislature complex from this wikimedia commons category http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Niyamasabha_Mandiram Thanks, but finally I've already posted your picture at [1] and is used at [2]. I shouldn't have done this in practice, but as soon you got the authorization, could you confirm the license I specified is correct? What is great is that the wiki used by the Document Foundation is using the InstantCommons Wiki feature, so that I don't need to reupload images from Wikipedia Commons and I can use them directly. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LOWN_3_Kerala_Legislative_Assembly_migares_to_Free_Software.png [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3#Yet_another_migration_to_LibreOffice The best reports so far are http://www.medianama.com/2014/07/223-kerala-legislature-foss/ and http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece Also Zyxware Blog post http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4358/zyxware-helps-kerala-state-legislative-assembly-move-to-free-software - -- William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTz7K6AAoJEA595SwE1xaDwJMQANheM078M3SR3Q2wQmYppNFP Uym1/2BHG1F/gCFV5cay7P1F5XFCfzzH0zasqJStwF1O1P95LDaHif9KsE3JU2Bu mN8RpP2pwvjZvhKvLPoLZWo+q5xEdhuiUrIiqpVGq0NPrDX24ZZHCs+m7lLxjUK1 DtmQjjlr6QS7jyhCGx78KQ2dHB5m5wjJ5ovRzB1s2IyC1osoaC4LUtLQt2HomCKw UUM1+DbMaLDmu10vamVJQN7P3tPNCxkBYetCyLpcqwg3AQOiuB1sYiKos8Os/ZRK r2oj95iSdMDQDbhgQwb1D+SViAR89xanBOtu5B/JvQoB2wt/ct9zcHL1hG/0fYZi rgUlajcytBd8vQvL9LeCakLs7wAIbx9dlO5uxUamUti3BboF18X92IIgdSlS8t2A 5/vGJrd+mBEnC/7Mmm+B4alLkVDpjmabZH+jn69ZIrrxYOpGOgd1BSShjM0I8bo2 GOwcxjK5WjB4KpqknLJx7DY4dTpt+f7Me2VsrS9jMT3zP0m8OS5fnEbtm/DdxdMX r3UoCk4Lzm5nh5++y+4Y8SKci0wsNvbN3v4z18Nv6cJ5YgJA7LEBg1POFcy/eqH4 85Bzv5XEjMMEcLIM+TAqtpbFXO6u34xXC7Yfd1TkChgq7EzqxKUsnnKpcTs09X43 7A8J8rJF1HKyWt8QyM81 =UNEl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice
Great news! Congrats to everyone that worked to make this happen. I shared this with the minister of innovation of Albania as a case study worth checking out (at least). Best, *---* *Redon Skikuli* *e-mail: **re...@skikuli.com re...@skikuli.com* * web: **www.skikuli.com http://www.skikuli.com* On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) This is all pretty fantastic! Congrats to anyone involved. Please can we just drop all the threads that have an Urmas in them? Just ignore the obvious FUD and avoid engaging. If doing a migration with any kind of assessment of hardware requirements or with any advice from almost anyone familiar with OpenSource then it's highly likely that little or no new hardware needs to be bought except where hand-helds are seen as more useful than a desktop. Without guidance people might have ended up buying new kit but will soon find that new kit lasts forever. Staying with proprietary systems means fairly frequent hardware upgrades just in order to keep doing the same stuff. If people have upgraded to new hardware they will also begin to realise they can bring the old stuff back into use, or give to worthy causes such as those with charitable aims. Regards from Tom :) On 19 July 2014 06:24, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Best News report so far http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece use this for sharing /case studies On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: A more detailed note by Zyxware is published on their Blog http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4358/zyxware-helps-kerala-state-legislative-assembly-move-to-free-software -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
Hi :) It is lack of government support for ODF that is one of the biggest blockers to my company migrating to LibreOffice/OpenOffice/Anything-other-than-MSOffice. It is going to be interesting to see if anyone in government takes any notice of this proposal. I'd really kinda like to know what can be done if people carry on sending documents in other formats after this is in place! Mainly because i would like to follow whatever the procedure is when they carry on. Regards from Tom :) On 23 July 2014 12:14, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues Two governments in less than a week's time. Very good news! :) Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Chart data
Hi: I could suggest you to select a greatter range than you are going to use at the begining. For example. Imagine you need make a chart with the information of all the months of the year but at this moment you have only seven mounth, like this: Row A B 1 J 10 2 F 20 3 M 30 4 A 40 5 My 40 6 J 50 7 Jy 60 But you expect five additional months: Row A B 8 A ? (Keep in blank) 9 S ? (Keep in blank) 10 O ? (Keep in blank) 11 N ? (Keep in blank) 12 D ? (Keep in blank) When you select the initial range you can select: A1:B12 as complete series In this case the chart only show elements graphics for months that have numbers...the others only by referens...but if you dont want show these in the chart you can hide its part of range-rows-(Partial or Total), and the chart adjusts automatically its range. I hope this help you to make your chart better and easier, Regards, Jorge Rodríguez El mié, 23-07-2014 a las 10:48 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker escribió: Hi! I'm trying to create a chart where when I add data I don't have to edit the data range each time to include the new row. I can't see how to do that. (Probably something I've missed). Can anyone help? Ta! -- Atentamente, Jorge Rodríguez -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?
Greetings, When I wrote this, almost 10 years ago, things didn't looking too good for inter-suite macro compatibility: http://archive09.linux.com/feature/47935 today, I have the feeling thing's haven't really improved, when it comes to macros inserted in ODF files, even considering only the FOSS-based suites, i.e. AOO, LO, Calligra... but I am not sure. What's your opinion, or reports from the trenches? Any feedback is welcome. Thanks, Marco -- M. Fioretti http://mfioretti.com http://stop.zona-m.net Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
Hi :) I have just forwarded this to the international translators co-ordination mailing list as they were discussing the Kerala case, i've copied some of the posting under this email Regards from Tom :) Anivar Araind said: The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17, 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free Software platform using Libreoffice . Hon. Speaker announced in Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt The migration process is implimented with the support of Zyxware Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote foss and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer community working on Indian Language support and localizations See below poster . https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557 Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language press and it is available here http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716 http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/ The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments, institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP. [5] International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has brought out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6] Related Links [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/ [2] http://www.zyxware.com/ [3] http://icfoss.in [4] http://smc.org.in [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf Then these links were added; Some news links in English from today's coverage http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/thiruvananthapuram/Software-Migration-ICFOSS-Hails-State-Govt/2014/07/18/article2335680.ece http://freepressjournal.in/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/ http://www.mathrubhumi.com/english/news/kerala/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-149244.html http://www.newswala.com/India-National-News/Kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-for-its-business-68287.html http://www.bgr.in/news/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/ and from various people; http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4358/zyxware-helps-kerala-state-legislative-assembly-move-to-free-software http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3 On 23 July 2014 12:14, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues Two governments in less than a week's time. Very good news! :) Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice
Hi :) The Users Support mailing list had this post sometime yesterday from Tim Lloyd; https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues Later in the thread Jim Seymour said Two governments in less than a week's time. Very good news! :) Regards, Jim William that looks like a good way of handling it. For online stuff it's quite easy to adapt or change if someone does object and in this case it's difficult to imagine they would object anyway. Printed Documentation that gets widely distributed might need to be a bit more careful when uncertain but that is a different bottle of crisps altogether. Thanks Tim, Jim and William! Regards from Tom :) On 23 July 2014 14:03, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2014 07:29 PM, Anivar Aravind wrote: You can also make use of Pictures of Kerala Legislature complex from this wikimedia commons category http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Niyamasabha_Mandiram Thanks, but finally I've already posted your picture at [1] and is used at [2]. I shouldn't have done this in practice, but as soon you got the authorization, could you confirm the license I specified is correct? What is great is that the wiki used by the Document Foundation is using the InstantCommons Wiki feature, so that I don't need to reupload images from Wikipedia Commons and I can use them directly. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LOWN_3_Kerala_Legislative_Assembly_migares_to_Free_Software.png [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3#Yet_another_migration_to_LibreOffice The best reports so far are http://www.medianama.com/2014/07/223-kerala-legislature-foss/ and http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece Also Zyxware Blog post http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4358/zyxware-helps-kerala-state-legislative-assembly-move-to-free-software - -- William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTz7K6AAoJEA595SwE1xaDwJMQANheM078M3SR3Q2wQmYppNFP Uym1/2BHG1F/gCFV5cay7P1F5XFCfzzH0zasqJStwF1O1P95LDaHif9KsE3JU2Bu mN8RpP2pwvjZvhKvLPoLZWo+q5xEdhuiUrIiqpVGq0NPrDX24ZZHCs+m7lLxjUK1 DtmQjjlr6QS7jyhCGx78KQ2dHB5m5wjJ5ovRzB1s2IyC1osoaC4LUtLQt2HomCKw UUM1+DbMaLDmu10vamVJQN7P3tPNCxkBYetCyLpcqwg3AQOiuB1sYiKos8Os/ZRK r2oj95iSdMDQDbhgQwb1D+SViAR89xanBOtu5B/JvQoB2wt/ct9zcHL1hG/0fYZi rgUlajcytBd8vQvL9LeCakLs7wAIbx9dlO5uxUamUti3BboF18X92IIgdSlS8t2A 5/vGJrd+mBEnC/7Mmm+B4alLkVDpjmabZH+jn69ZIrrxYOpGOgd1BSShjM0I8bo2 GOwcxjK5WjB4KpqknLJx7DY4dTpt+f7Me2VsrS9jMT3zP0m8OS5fnEbtm/DdxdMX r3UoCk4Lzm5nh5++y+4Y8SKci0wsNvbN3v4z18Nv6cJ5YgJA7LEBg1POFcy/eqH4 85Bzv5XEjMMEcLIM+TAqtpbFXO6u34xXC7Yfd1TkChgq7EzqxKUsnnKpcTs09X43 7A8J8rJF1HKyWt8QyM81 =UNEl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Scan documents?
Is it possible to scan an older printed document directly into LO? I have an old 2 page document that I want to reproduce and modify with LO but don't find any entries in the menus for scanning directly into LO. This is in a Linux system and would probably use xine for the scanning. I suppose I could scan into a pdf and bring that into LO but would prefer to work on an *.odt format. Thanks, Tom list moderator -- To be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. - Nelson Mandela ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Hi :) Similarly DocX promises to be cross-platform and able to be used by any relevant program. So did Rtf. Whenever these things are in the hands of single profit-making companies they don't seem to live up to promises or expectations. Ownership through a committee of a large number of profit-making companies and others seems to make things more stable as long as it's possible to pull any errant company back in-line if it fails to implement it as per agreements. Regards from Tom :) On 19 July 2014 12:50, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:16:49 +0100 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Oddly i still see a LOT of job adverts for programmers who can write Java. I'm hoping that is to help companies migrate away or to re-write existing java packages! [snip] How sad :( Java had such great promise. Java was *supposed* to be immune to all this. Instead, due to the realities of market pressures and the scourge of poor design and coding, Java has become at least as bad a word in the I.T. community as ActiveX -- possibly worse. Plus it's a PITA to code in, has horrible load times, and write once, run anywhere never did become fully real. It was bad enough under Sun. Now that Oracle owns it, I think it's doomed. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?
Hi :) I have a feeling that macros were OK between LO and AOO a couple of years ago but there have been huge developments in LO during that time so compatibility has probably suffered a bit. What happens to a macro written for LO that calls functionality which doesn't exist in other suites? Also what happens if the functionality does exist in another suite but is handled differently? If written for AOO then i suspect it'll probably work in LO. Or if written for LO and manages to avoid the newer features then presumably it'll work in AOO too (but cross your fingers jic!). Obviously this is also going to be a problem with macros that people try to run in older versions of LibreOffice. So if compatibility is a main concern then avoid using newer functionality! All this is also a problem in MS Office, of course. However they have the additional problem that even sticking to basic functionality is often a problem between different versions and that happens even if the version of MSO is newer than the one the macro was written for. At my workplace we are stuck on MS Office 2010 and can't upgrade or move to 365 due to this issue. Rewriting the macros each time we need to upgrade is a pain. At least with the LO macros the languages used are the same in each upgrade/update and the same as those used in other office suites. So re-writing is less of an issue. It would be better for us to re-write to LO macro-code because then we would only have to do the re-write just the 1 time. However all this is only my own opinion and could easily be wrong. I do my best to avoid macros. Regards from Tom :) On 23 July 2014 16:40, M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: Greetings, When I wrote this, almost 10 years ago, things didn't looking too good for inter-suite macro compatibility: http://archive09.linux.com/feature/47935 today, I have the feeling thing's haven't really improved, when it comes to macros inserted in ODF files, even considering only the FOSS-based suites, i.e. AOO, LO, Calligra... but I am not sure. What's your opinion, or reports from the trenches? Any feedback is welcome. Thanks, Marco -- M. Fioretti http://mfioretti.com http://stop.zona-m.net Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] news about LibreOffice
Hi :) Wow!! Just found this excellent page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3 by William Gathoye It is not always 100% perfect English but it's a great read and has some quite compelling sections. For example; https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3#LibreOffice_for_Mobile_will_be_soon_a_reality which i really hadn't realised at all. I thought there was a major blocker preventing this and that on-top of having to re-write 100% of the coding first. However it now seems that only 10% of the code needs re-writing! The UI issue seems a lot less of a problem too! I wish that instead of the issues being 1, 2, 3 they gave the date, perhaps in reverse order such as 2014-07-07 2014-07-14 2014-07-21 but it is MUCH easier to see those things in hindsight and it probably wouldn't have occurred to me at the time either. Luckily it is fairly easy to set-up new pages, copypaste contents and then set-up redirects from the old pages. The bit i never figure out is how to get the table-of-contents at the beginning of the page. Just out of curiosity can it be floated off to a different side? (Even if it can it's probably better to keep it where it is to make it consistent with the other wiki-pages) It looks like a huge amount of work has gone into this and it's really great to see it collect together information from so many mailing lists. Good work William! Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] news about LibreOffice
2014-07-23 18:10 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) Wow!! Just found this excellent page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3 by William Gathoye It is not always 100% perfect English but it's a great read and has some quite compelling sections. For example; https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3#LibreOffice_for_Mobile_will_be_soon_a_reality which i really hadn't realised at all. I thought there was a major blocker preventing this and that on-top of having to re-write 100% of the coding first. However it now seems that only 10% of the code needs re-writing! The UI issue seems a lot less of a problem too! I wish that instead of the issues being 1, 2, 3 they gave the date, perhaps in reverse order such as 2014-07-07 2014-07-14 2014-07-21 but it is MUCH easier to see those things in hindsight and it probably wouldn't have occurred to me at the time either. Luckily it is fairly easy to set-up new pages, copypaste contents and then set-up redirects from the old pages. The bit i never figure out is how to get the table-of-contents at the beginning of the page. Just out of curiosity can it be floated off to a different side? (Even if it can it's probably better to keep it where it is to make it consistent with the other wiki-pages) It looks like a huge amount of work has gone into this and it's really great to see it collect together information from so many mailing lists. Good work William! Regards from Tom :) It does indeed look like an excellent source of information, Tom - thanks for the heads-up ! Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Cannot change spacing in Math
Hello! I have a problem: it is impossible to reduce the spacing in the LO Math settings. I go to Format -- Spacing... , then choose Borders in the Category drop-down list, and see that the settings are: Left: 125.93mm Right: 249.32mm Top: 249.37mm Bottom: 1.03mm and I cannot reduce them (see attached screenshot). Is this a bug? And what is more important -- is there a way out of this terrible situation? Regards, Vladimir - v...@ukr.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Scan documents?
Hi. I have scanned to file with xine and then used OCR to convert the image to text I can then edit in LO. Steve On 2014-07-24 06:30, Thomas Taylor wrote: Is it possible to scan an older printed document directly into LO? I have an old 2 page document that I want to reproduce and modify with LO but don't find any entries in the menus for scanning directly into LO. This is in a Linux system and would probably use xine for the scanning. I suppose I could scan into a pdf and bring that into LO but would prefer to work on an *.odt format. Thanks, Tom list moderator -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Scan documents?
I just tried this for the first time on my Slackware Linux system and it does seem to be broken. (LO 3.6.7.2) I used Insert - Picture - Scan - select source to verify it was using my Epson USB flatbed scanner. The problem with my version is that it defaults to the existing, but unconnected video device (v4l:/dev/video0). When I select my scanner in the Device used option, it shows the epson2:libusb:00, which I assume is correct. However, it still will not scan and the About Device button results in the info for the video device even though I changed the device. It will not run the scanner and results in a garbage block (probably the unconnected video card). LO does not seem to support USB scanners. I would do a separate scan with Xsane and save it in whatever format you want. I usually use jpeg, but others could work also. Just do _not_ use encapsulated Postscript. Then insert that file into your document. I have had good success with that process. HTH. Girvin Herr On 07/23/2014 11:30 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote: Is it possible to scan an older printed document directly into LO? I have an old 2 page document that I want to reproduce and modify with LO but don't find any entries in the menus for scanning directly into LO. This is in a Linux system and would probably use xine for the scanning. I suppose I could scan into a pdf and bring that into LO but would prefer to work on an *.odt format. Thanks, Tom list moderator -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Scan documents?
I used tesseract to OCR. Here are a couple references. http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/442456-how-to-scan-and-ocr-like-a-pro-with-open-source-tools http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2010-06/15-linux_ocr_software_comparison steve On 2014-07-24 06:30, Thomas Taylor wrote: Is it possible to scan an older printed document directly into LO? I have an old 2 page document that I want to reproduce and modify with LO but don't find any entries in the menus for scanning directly into LO. This is in a Linux system and would probably use xine for the scanning. I suppose I could scan into a pdf and bring that into LO but would prefer to work on an *.odt format. Thanks, Tom list moderator -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot change spacing in Math
I found a solution. Well, maybe not a solution, but a quick workaround. In order to set the sane values for the borders in the formula one should go to Tools -- Options... -- LibreOffice -- Advanced -- Expert Configuration And find the items /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - LeftSpace /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - TopSpace /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - BottomSpace /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - RightSpace then press Edit and set the values in hundredth of mm (100 - is 1mm). Still, this way seems a very very unobvious to me. And the question of why isn't it possible to change these values in the respective dialog window remains. Should I report to Bugzilla about this issue? Regards, Vladimir On 23 July 2014 20:21, v...@ukr.net wrote: Hello! I have a problem: it is impossible to reduce the spacing in the LO Math settings. I go to Format -- Spacing... , then choose Borders in the Category drop-down list, and see that the settings are: Left: 125.93mm Right: 249.32mm Top: 249.37mm Bottom: 1.03mm and I cannot reduce them (see attached screenshot). Is this a bug? And what is more important -- is there a way out of this terrible situation? Regards, Vladimir - v...@ukr.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Scan documents?
Xsane sorry, not xine. Hi. I have scanned to file with xine and then used OCR to convert the image to text I can then edit in LO. Steve On 2014-07-24 06:30, Thomas Taylor wrote: Is it possible to scan an older printed document directly into LO? I have an old 2 page document that I want to reproduce and modify with LO but don't find any entries in the menus for scanning directly into LO. This is in a Linux system and would probably use xine for the scanning. I suppose I could scan into a pdf and bring that into LO but would prefer to work on an *.odt format. Thanks, Tom list moderator -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot change spacing in Math
v...@ukr.net schrieb: I found a solution. Well, maybe not a solution, but a quick workaround. In order to set the sane values for the borders in the formula one should go to Tools -- Options... -- LibreOffice -- Advanced -- Expert Configuration And find the items /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - LeftSpace /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - TopSpace /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - BottomSpace /org.openoffice.Office.Math/StandardFormat/Distance - RightSpace then press Edit and set the values in hundredth of mm (100 - is 1mm). Still, this way seems a very very unobvious to me. And the question of why isn't it possible to change these values in the respective dialog window remains. Should I report to Bugzilla about this issue? No, the setting is available in the UI, see chapter Changing the appearance of formulas in MathGuide 4.0. http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot change spacing in Math
Hello! On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 23:18:10 +0200 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: No, the setting is available in the UI, see chapter Changing the appearance of formulas in MathGuide 4.0. http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ As I mentioned in my initial message, it does not work. There *is* the dialog window where the user is supposed to change these values, but it is impossible to change them there for some reason. At least, on my machine. That's the point. Regards, Vladimir - v...@ukr.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with standard filter
Urmas wrote: Rob Jasper: If I unselect ALL, aaa gets unselected too (reasonable, since that the gebaviour for more the one slection values too) If I now select aaa, the ALL mark is also automatically selected!! This looks plain wrong to me since no filtering is different then filtering on 1 value, since there are also empty fields. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46062 Good catch; I had to read it a couple of times to see that the original comments before yours are describing a similar problem. I've added a demo file and more detailed description which is hopefully sufficient for others to reproduce. It is possible to do what is asked, using the more advanced Standard Filter... dialog rather than the immediately visible tick boxes. The way the tick boxes work in this case isn't particularly intuitive though, particularly when they give the impression that the current filter is set to something other than what it is. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with standard filter
The same inconsistency also makes that if one filter on the only one value available by filtering on 'Not empty', and subsequently deletes the value fro the visible rows, it is impossible to switch off the selection (since 'All' doesn't work as being really all). I opened [Bug 81577] for this. Op 23 jul. 2014, om 23:38 heeft Mark Bourne het volgende geschreven: Urmas wrote: Rob Jasper: If I unselect ALL, aaa gets unselected too (reasonable, since that the gebaviour for more the one slection values too) If I now select aaa, the ALL mark is also automatically selected!! This looks plain wrong to me since no filtering is different then filtering on 1 value, since there are also empty fields. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46062 Good catch; I had to read it a couple of times to see that the original comments before yours are describing a similar problem. I've added a demo file and more detailed description which is hopefully sufficient for others to reproduce. It is possible to do what is asked, using the more advanced Standard Filter... dialog rather than the immediately visible tick boxes. The way the tick boxes work in this case isn't particularly intuitive though, particularly when they give the impression that the current filter is set to something other than what it is. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Desidero essere cancellato dalla mailing list. Cordialità. Giorgio -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot change spacing in Math
Hi Vladimir, v...@ukr.net schrieb: Hello! On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 23:18:10 +0200 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: No, the setting is available in the UI, see chapter Changing the appearance of formulas in MathGuide 4.0. http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ As I mentioned in my initial message, it does not work. There *is* the dialog window where the user is supposed to change these values, but it is impossible to change them there for some reason. At least, on my machine. That's the point. Which version do you use. There was the bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75525 and the bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77706. In Version: 4.4.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 4011b74eb7650a0eeb99d3acebb9ef60b0fcaab9 TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2014-07-18_03:54:18 it works. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page
I have a Writer document 22” by 17” (landscape) that I would like to print on one page. How can I scale it to accomplish this? I am using the latest versions of Mac OS and LibreOffice. Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page
Hi. May not be the most elegant way, but use the PDF button to create a PDF and print that to one page. Steve On 2014-07-24 12:55, Truett Bobo wrote: I have a Writer document 22” by 17” (landscape) that I would like to print on one page. How can I scale it to accomplish this? I am using the latest versions of Mac OS and LibreOffice. Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
