Re: [libreoffice-users] Lost Ability To Open Hybrid PDF in Writer

[DaveB]

On 01/01/2024 14:54, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Dave,

may be this one:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158442

Seems it is fixed for version LO 24.2, but is waiting for review in LO 7.6.

Regards

Robert


Thanks Robert,

Yes, it definitely seems to be that one. I don't know how I missed it in 
my search of Bugzilla.


Regards
Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Lost Ability To Open Hybrid PDF in Writer

[DaveB]

On 31/12/2023 18:34, DaveB wrote:
For a many years I have made use of the facility to export Writer 
(ODT) files as Hybrid PDF (embed ODF files) and later reopen them in 
Writer for editing. I have tried numerous options, including a new 
profile, but the Hybrid PDF always opens in Draw.
Any thoughts or pointers about how to recover this facility would be 
welcome.

Dave


I found a "disappointing" solution, by uninstalling 7.6.4.1 and 
installing 7.5.9.2so now opening Hybrid PDFfiles in Writer works 
perfectly, even with my original profile. Not that I have any problem 
using 7.5.9.2, but I would like to find out why the issue only occurs on 
this one machine and not 2 other Win 10 machines I have tested.


Dave

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[libreoffice-users] Lost Ability To Open Hybrid PDF in Writer

[DaveB]

For a many years I have made use of the facility to export Writer (ODT) 
files as Hybrid PDF (embed ODF files) and later reopen them in Writer 
for editing. I have tried numerous options, including a new profile, but 
the Hybrid PDF always opens in Draw.
Any thoughts or pointers about how to recover this facility would be 
welcome.

Dave
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VCL: win

Locale: en-IE (en_IE); UI: en-US
Calc: CL threaded

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 7.6 and Win7pro

[DaveB]

 Original Message 
From: Pat Brown [mailto:mistyha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2023 at 19:41 UTC
To: Libre Office
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 7.6 and Win7pro


Are there any issues with running the latest version of LO on a Win 7
machine?

None that I have encountered, running version 7.6,2.1 on both a Win 7 
real and virtual machine. For me the performance and functionality are 
the same as on Win 10 and 11.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

[DaveB]

On 21/08/2023 14:35, Martin /Nightowl/
  Byttebier wrote:
Op Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:13:12 +
DaveBschreef:On 20/08/2023 09:06, Martin /Nightowl/ 
Byttebier wrote:Op Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:59:11 +
DaveBschreef:
Hi Martin,


This is how I would do something like you are looking for under Win
10. See attached ODT document.


Hope that helps.This is exactly I've tried. But this seems not to work at all. 
The
only thing that I can change this way is the font and font size.


Thanks,
MartinYou can definitely remove the underline by changing it in the
Hyperlink Style dialog, but it appears that the only  way to change
the color is in Options> Application Colors.


You should make up a suitable template and apply it to your existing 
spreadsheets.Hello Dave,


I don't know how you do it but here on my pc I can't remove the
underlining at all using the Hyperlink  Style dialog. The best I can do
is set the colour of underlining to white but then in dark colored
cells I see white underlining. Not really a solution.


MartinHi Martin,OK In a little while I will send you a couple of small ODT files
  off-list. Please open them and tell me if this is what you want to
  achieve.Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

[DaveB]

On 20/08/2023 10:13, DaveB wrote:

On 20/08/2023 09:06, Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier wrote:

Op Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:59:11 +
DaveB  schreef:




Hi Martin,

This is how I would do something like you are looking for under Win
10. See attached ODT document.

Hope that helps.


This is exactly I've tried. But this seems not to work at all. The only
thing that I can change this way is the font and font size.

Thanks,
Martin


You can definitely remove the underline by changing it in the Hyperlink 
Style dialog, but it appears that the only  way to change the color is 
in Options> Application Colors.


You should make up a suitable template and apply it to your existing 
spreadsheets.


Dave



From: Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier [mailto:tos4e...@telenet.be]
Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 14:54 UTC
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

   I have 24 calc files containing some 600+ hyperlinks each in here.
   Up to version 7.5.x.x.x, the hyperlinks were as I wanted them, black
   text without underlining.
   See screenshot:
   
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZNFuaVZ4e3Ctwtp39fw77s6Md8rdjeizYSV

   The latest version or Libreoffice 7.6.0.2 (openSUSE Tumbleweed)
however shows all those hyperlinks in pale blue and underlined.
   See screenshot:
   
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ72ONVZ8m3P6VShLYyjtIRuYLfVNu0y0SwV

   I have already tried using formatting profiles/text/hyperlink to
change the links back to black text without underlining, but I can't
manage that. It seems the only thing that can be changed this way is
font and font size.
   I managed to change the color of the link to black by using tools -
   Options - Libre Office - application colours - unvisited link: color
   black
   Is there a way to alter the appearance of the hypertext the way I
want it?
   ps. This happens not only on openSUSE tumbleweed but also under W10.
   Kind regards,
   Martin


Upon reflection, I think you should file a bug report, because there is 
no justifiable reason why a document/spreadsheet style should be 
prevented from overriding global preferences. In fact it defeats and 
contradicts the software's styles concept.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

[DaveB]

Yep, I held on with 60.7.2 for ages, but now I am stuck with 102.14.0 
until 115.x.x matures and hopefully improves, or something better shows 
up. Some here and in other forums are recommending Claws Mail, so I 
might give it a whirl to see if offers what I need.


Sorry my side note has taken this thread somewhat off-topic.

On 20/08/2023 10:06, Steve Edmonds wrote:

I have just stuck with TB 102.

On 20/08/23 08:13, Lois Shumaker wrote:

Any recommendations for a different email client to run with Windows 10?

On 8/19/2023 9:49 AM, DaveB wrote:

On 19/08/2023 17:34, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:59:11 +
DaveB  wrote:

Hello DaveB,


See attached ODT document

*All* attachments get stripped on this ML.

Yes Brad I am aware of that and have been for many years. I had 
intended to send the email off-list to Martin, but the new 
Thunderbird is such a screw up it didn't indicate it was also sending 
to the list as well. Pity Mozilla have destroyed a great email client.












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Re: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

[DaveB]

On 20/08/2023 09:06, Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier wrote:

Op Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:59:11 +
DaveB  schreef:




Hi Martin,

This is how I would do something like you are looking for under Win
10. See attached ODT document.

Hope that helps.


This is exactly I've tried. But this seems not to work at all. The only
thing that I can change this way is the font and font size.

Thanks,
Martin


You can definitely remove the underline by changing it in the Hyperlink 
Style dialog, but it appears that the only  way to change the color is 
in Options> Application Colors.


You should make up a suitable template and apply it to your existing 
spreadsheets.


Dave



From: Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier [mailto:tos4e...@telenet.be]
Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 14:54 UTC
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

   
   I have 24 calc files containing some 600+ hyperlinks each in here.

   Up to version 7.5.x.x.x, the hyperlinks were as I wanted them, black
   text without underlining.
   
   See screenshot:

   https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZNFuaVZ4e3Ctwtp39fw77s6Md8rdjeizYSV
   
   The latest version or Libreoffice 7.6.0.2 (openSUSE Tumbleweed)

however shows all those hyperlinks in pale blue and underlined.
   
   See screenshot:

   https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ72ONVZ8m3P6VShLYyjtIRuYLfVNu0y0SwV
   
   I have already tried using formatting profiles/text/hyperlink to

change the links back to black text without underlining, but I can't
manage that. It seems the only thing that can be changed this way is
font and font size.
   
   I managed to change the color of the link to black by using tools -

   Options - Libre Office - application colours - unvisited link: color
   black
   
   Is there a way to alter the appearance of the hypertext the way I

want it?
   
   ps. This happens not only on openSUSE tumbleweed but also under W10.
   
   Kind regards,
   
   Martin
   







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Re: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

[DaveB]

On 19/08/2023 17:34, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:59:11 +
DaveB  wrote:

Hello DaveB,


See attached ODT document

*All* attachments get stripped on this ML.

Yes Brad I am aware of that and have been for many years. I had intended 
to send the email off-list to Martin, but the new Thunderbird is such a 
screw up it didn't indicate it was also sending to the list as well. 
Pity Mozilla have destroyed a great email client.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext

[DaveB]

Hi
  Martin,This is how I would do something like you are looking for
  under Win 10. See attached ODT document.Hope that 
helps.RegardsDaveFrom:Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier
  [mailto:tos4e...@telenet.be]
Sent:
  Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 14:54 UTC
To:users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject:[libreoffice-users] alter appearnce hypertext




I have 24 calc files containing some 600+ hyperlinks each in here.
Up to version 7.5.x.x.x, the hyperlinks were as I wanted them, black
text without underlining.


See 
screenshot:https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZNFuaVZ4e3Ctwtp39fw77s6Md8rdjeizYSVThe
 latest version or Libreoffice 7.6.0.2 (openSUSE Tumbleweed) however
shows all those hyperlinks in pale blue and underlined. 


See 
screenshot:https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ72ONVZ8m3P6VShLYyjtIRuYLfVNu0y0SwVI
 have already tried using formatting profiles/text/hyperlink to change
the links back to black text without underlining, but I can't manage
that. It seems the only thing that can be changed this way is font and
font size. 


I managed to change the color of the link to black by using tools -
Options - Libre Office - application colours - unvisited link: color
black


Is there a way to alter the appearance of the hypertext the way I want
it?


ps. This happens not only on openSUSE tumbleweed but also under W10.


Kind regards,


Martin
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[libreoffice-users] Re: MY DOCX WAS AUTOMATICALLY REDECTED

[DaveB]

Reposted - Originally sent from non-subscribed address.

Swatee Garsa Wrote:
Hey, I Need your support. Yesterday i had saved a file as odt format 
today when I opened the file, it also completely changed pages were 
reduced, font style and size was changed. I am a freelancer, I need 
this file asap. Please give your support.


There is no conversion of the original file when you open a non-native 
file type and Libre|Office does not have the facility to redact or 
delete documents. Possibly, what you did was to open a .docx file then 
save it in .odt format, which means your original .docx file is still 
somewhere on your computer. If your original .docx file has been 
deleted/redacted, then you would have to have done that with another 
program (eg. your OS file manager). If you are saying that the new .odf 
document does not render with exactly the same appearance as the 
original .docx file it could be that the original had a complex 
structure that the save/export filter was unable to accurately translate 
it with the same appearance as the original. Unfortunately, the newer MS 
formats are something of a moving target for the creators of our 
save/export filters and there can be no guarantee of a a perfect 
translation.


Note: When posting for support on this mailing list, it is very helpful 
for our volunteers if you give as much information as possible, at least 
your OS (Operating System - eg. Linux, Mac, Solaris, Windows, etc.) and 
and the version of LibreOffice you are using.


Regards Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I rejoin this list please?

[DaveB]

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To: Budge; LibreOffice Users
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How can I rejoin this list please?


On 2023-07-06 05:15, Budge wrote:
I disconnected a year ago and now wish to subscribe.  Please advise 
how I can join. ...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Can't highlight a column and set background shading

[DaveB]

Hi David

Can't recall ever seeing a "Highlight" button in Calc, I think you mean 
that you previously added the "Background Color" to the toolbar with the 
"Customise Toolbar" facility.


I can't offer much to help you restore your original settings, other 
than to rename/delete your user profile (last resort) but as an alternative:

1. Click the column header.
2. Right click in the highlighted area to open the context menu.
3. Select "Format cells" from the context menu.
Keyboard alternative to steps 2 & 3 is Ctrl + 1
4. In the "Format Calls" dialog click the "Background" tab.
5. Click the "Color" button and choose the required color.
Obviously click OK.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Dave

 Original Message 
From: David Carter [mailto:dcarter204...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023, 14:42 UTC
To: LibreOffice User problems, questions
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Can't highlight a column and set 
background shading


Been using Open Office and then LibreOffice since 1993.  Used to use 
Bugzilla occasionally in the past.
. . . This is my first post to this mailing list, to seek support from 
the community.


I have a spreadsheet I've been using for 3 years.  I modify it 
occasionally.


I have previously selected a column and clicked the "background 
highlight" icon with color of yellow selected - that would turn the 
entire column yellow - it no longer works!


I suspect I "thrashed around" and changed something about the Toolbars 
that has caused this problem.


I just uninstalled and re-installed Libre Office on my Windows 7 
Professional desktop computer - LibreOffice 7.5.4.2.  I did this to get 
away from any "unintended" changes I may have made.  It did not fix any 
of the problems noted in the next paragraph.


I also seem to have changed how the toolbars display:  They have the 
"system blue" background color, the icons seem larger or different, and 
the "background highlight" tool seems to be different - has black "ab" 
over yellow line.  See attached screen shot.
*_. . . I can no longer highlight a cell or column of cells and change 
the background to yellow._**_

_**_
_**_This is the problem I am reporting and for which I am asking for 
help._**_

_*
Urgency:  I am "dead in the water" on my number one priority task.

Best wishes,

David Carter
Temple, Texas
409-718-2268



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reopening document at last saved position

[DaveB]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for taking the time to check. It seems there might have been a
glitch on the Windows machine yesterday, because I couldn't replicate
the condition on a Linux machine, but after booting up the Windows
machine today the load at last saved position works as expected.

Best Regards
Dave

On 15/10/2020 19:17, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> Hi Dave, on my 6.4.6.2 it is working as expected.
> I have "Use data for document properties" checked. Not sure if it needs
> to be.
> steve
> 
> On 14/10/2020 02:02, DaveB wrote:
>> Clean installs of 6.4.6.2(x64) and 7.0.2.2(x64) on Win 10Pro(2004). User
>> Data in Options has been filled in both cases.
>>
>> For several versions it has been the case that if User Data has been
>> filled, Writer documents would reopen at the same point within the
>> document when it was last saved. Has this changed and if so is there
>> alternative setting to have Writer documents reopen at the same position
>> as when last saved?
>>
>> Regards
>> Dave


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[libreoffice-users] Reopening document at last saved position

[DaveB]

Clean installs of 6.4.6.2(x64) and 7.0.2.2(x64) on Win 10Pro(2004). User
Data in Options has been filled in both cases.

For several versions it has been the case that if User Data has been
filled, Writer documents would reopen at the same point within the
document when it was last saved. Has this changed and if so is there
alternative setting to have Writer documents reopen at the same position
as when last saved?

Regards
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Access Edit Mode

[DaveB]

On 25/09/2020 18:40, aln wrote:
> I wish to edit a Read-Only spreadsheet document, but cannot find the Edit
> Mode button - it is not displayed under the Edit tab. How do I get to it?
> libreoffice01.JPG
> 
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I am trying to assist aln off-list.

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[libreoffice-users] Seeking Documentation Contributors

[DaveB]

A new post regarding the Documentation Team Status has been added to TDF
Blog:
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/24/documentation-team-status/

The post indicates that good progress has been made towards keeping pace
with updating and publishing our documentation in line with software
releases. Even better progress can be made with just a few more
contributors joining the Docs Team.

Please read the blog post and if you would like to help, contact us at
documentat...@global.libreoffice.org

Best Regards
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc] Keyboard shortcut to delete current row when focus on one of its cells?

[DaveB]

On 22/09/2020 14:17, Philip Jackson wrote:
> On 21/09/2020 22:48, Dave Howorth wrote:
>> Well the diagram in the book also has the buttons at the bottom in a
>> different order. Either they used a different version of the software,
>> or maybe a different desktop environment. The joy of linux:)
>>
>> But no, there are no underlines on the selections in [my] real life.
> 
> Nor mine -  on 6.4.5.2
> 
> Philip

That suggests you are running Linux.

The image Dave is referring to was taken from a Windows 7 install of the
Calc Guide 6.2. We (The Documentation Team) always take captures of the
guide we are writing about. As much as we would like to, we cannot cover
every possible visual difference between each operating system.

The conclusion to this thread is that Ctrl+- opens the dialog in both
Linux and Windows (cannot speak for macOS), but the D key only functions
as described by Brian under Windows, which is why Linux users don't see
the underline. Although less convenient, Linux users can use the up and
down arrow keys can be used to select the required option.

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create a relative hyperlink to file?

[DaveB]

 Original Message 
From: Stephan Bergmann [mailto:sberg...@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020, 13:35 UTC
To: LibreOffice Users
Cc: Dave Barton
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Create a relative hyperlink to file?

> On 19/09/2020 16:33, Dave Barton wrote:
>> I am trying to create a Writer document with a number of links to files
>> in the same directory as the odt file itself. Using absolute paths
>> everything works perfectly, but relative links (eg. file://abc.xyz)
>> always fail with a "not an *absolute* URL" error.
> 
> What version of LibreOffice are you using, and what is the exact wording
> of the error message?  At least with recent versions of LibreOffice, the
> wording of the error message when clicking the link should be:
> "'file://abc.xyz/' cannot be passed to an external application to open
> it (e.g., it might not be an absolute URL, or might denote no existing
> file)."
> 
> And note that  is not a relative URL, it is an absolute
> file URL with an "abc.xyz" authority, which is interpreted by
> LibreOffice at least on Windows to denote the root directory of some
> (most likely non-existing) abc.xyz UNC share.

Hi Stephan,

Thanks for taking the time to reply, but as I said in response to Regina
and others later in this thread: "Today I started the computers
(Win 10-2004 x64 & Linux Kernel 5.8 x64) running LO 7.0.1.2, opened the
odt file and the relative links worked perfectly." I am unable to
discover or explain why it did not work initially.

My issue now is to find a way to get those relative links working in an
exported PDF copy of the file. I have tried several different export
options, but clicking the links in the PDF file always returns the "File
 not found" error.

Best Regards
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create a relative hyperlink to file?

[DaveB]

Hi Regina & all,

Even though I was following instructions to the letter I must have been
doing something wrong wrong yesterday. Today I started the computers
(Win 10-2004 x64 & Linux Kernel 5.8 x64) running LO 7.0.1.2, opened the
odt file and the relative links worked perfectly. I am still unsure of
how to explain the appearance of absolute paths over the links when
writing up the user guides, but that is a different issue.

Having got the odt file working, I am now looking for a way to get those
relative links working in an exported PDF copy of the file. I have tried
several different export options, but clicking the links in the PDF file
always returns the "File  not found" error.
Any thoughts or suggestions about this would be welcome.

Thanks for all your help.

Best Regards
Dave

On 19/09/2020 23:05, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I have now used an English UI, and now the correct fields. Open
> Hyperlink-dialog, click Document. Click "Open File" button at the ride
> side of the Document Path field.
> 
> I have tried with system open file dialog and with LO's own dialog. It
> works in both cases. Ctrl-click opens e.g. a linked .odt file in
> LibreOffice.
> 
> I work on Windows 10. What OS do you use? Perhaps there is an error in
> Linux?
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina
> 
> DaveB schrieb am 19-Sep-20 um 23:22:
>> On 19/09/2020 20:01, Robert Großkopf wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>> I am trying to create a Writer document with a number of links to files
>>>> in the same directory as the odt file itself. Using absolute paths
>>>> everything works perfectly, but relative links (eg. file://abc.xyz)
>>>> always fail with a "not an *absolute* URL" error.
>>>
>>> The links will be saved als relative links in the file. Try to move the
>>> file to another folder - together with the other documents. It will
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Have a look in the *.odt-file in content.xml:
>>> >> will open the document Bilder_gross.odt, which is in a subfolder of the
>>> document I have created.
>>>
>>> For documents you could set in the further settings for a Hyperlink:
>>> Text: "My Document". Then there will be shown only the name "My
>>> Document" for the document. Not the absolute path to the file, which is
>>> saved only for the shown text in the document, not for the real path to
>>> the file. This information of the path is misleading.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Many thanks for taking the time to reply.
>>
>> If you look at my original post and my reply to Regina the odt file and
>> the hyperlinked files are are already in the same directory, so I see no
>> reason why moving them to another location would change anything.
>>
>> It really doesn't matter what appears in content.xml. The critical point
>> is that keyboard Ctrl+click on the hyperlink in the odt file generates a
>> "not an *absolute* URL" error.
>>
>> Sorry if I have misunderstood or misinterpreted the explanation you and
>> Regina have kindly given, but I need to clearly explain this for
>> inexperienced users in the next edition of the official LibreOffice
>> Writer Guide.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Dave
>>
>>
> 
> 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create a relative hyperlink to file?

[DaveB]

On 19/09/2020 20:01, Robert Großkopf wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
>> I am trying to create a Writer document with a number of links to files
>> in the same directory as the odt file itself. Using absolute paths
>> everything works perfectly, but relative links (eg. file://abc.xyz)
>> always fail with a "not an *absolute* URL" error.
> 
> The links will be saved als relative links in the file. Try to move the
> file to another folder - together with the other documents. It will work.
> 
> Have a look in the *.odt-file in content.xml:
>  will open the document Bilder_gross.odt, which is in a subfolder of the
> document I have created.
> 
> For documents you could set in the further settings for a Hyperlink:
> Text: "My Document". Then there will be shown only the name "My
> Document" for the document. Not the absolute path to the file, which is
> saved only for the shown text in the document, not for the real path to
> the file. This information of the path is misleading.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Robert

Hi Robert,

Many thanks for taking the time to reply.

If you look at my original post and my reply to Regina the odt file and
the hyperlinked files are are already in the same directory, so I see no
reason why moving them to another location would change anything.

It really doesn't matter what appears in content.xml. The critical point
is that keyboard Ctrl+click on the hyperlink in the odt file generates a
"not an *absolute* URL" error.

Sorry if I have misunderstood or misinterpreted the explanation you and
Regina have kindly given, but I need to clearly explain this for
inexperienced users in the next edition of the official LibreOffice
Writer Guide.

Kind Regards
Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create a relative hyperlink to file?

[DaveB]

On 19/09/2020 19:56, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> please excuse, same in English:

No problem. Your English is a million times better than my tiny
understanding of German.

> Regina Henschel schrieb am 19-Sep-20 um 20:47:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Dave Barton schrieb am 19-Sep-20 um 16:33:
>>> I am trying to create a Writer document with a number of links to files
>>> in the same directory as the odt file itself. Using absolute paths
>>> everything works perfectly, but relative links (eg. file://abc.xyz)
>>> always fail with a "not an *absolute* URL" error.
>>
> 
> You create the hyperlink with Ctrl+K and then Document?
> 
> Do not try to manually enter the link, but _always_ use the button at
> the right side of the Target input field. Of cause the target needs to
> be already in the same folder as the text file.
> 
> Be not confused by the shown text. It does not show, what is stored in
> the file. The link is stored as relative. Such links are usually stored
> as relativ, even if not in the same folder. Only if a target is on a
> different drive, the link is absolute.
> 
> If you are unsure about the saved text, open the file e.g. with 7Zip and
> look into the content.xml. You will find the link starting with ../
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina

Hi Regina,

Many thanks for taking the time to reply.

The odt document and the linked files are all in the same local directory.

I open the hyperlink dialog either by the menu, toolbar or keyboard
Ctrl+K. I do not manually enter the link. In the hyperlink dialog I
select the "Open File" button to the right of "Document > Path", see:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/33hc7qwbjtc7dlp/Hyperlink_Dialog.png/file
Selecting the file from the open file dialog ALWAYS adds the full
(ABSOLUTE) path to the hyperlink in the document.

Maybe I have misunderstood or misinterpreted your explanation, but I
cannot find anything in the hyperlink dialog that provides an option to
create a RELATIVE hyperlink to to another file.

I should add that part of my reason for asking this question is that if
I can get this to work it will form the basis of a section in the next
edition of our official Writer Guide, so so telling our readers to unzip
odt files is definitely not an acceptable option.

Thanks & Kind Regards
Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with chapter numbering and TOC.

[DaveB]

On 18.11.2019 19:51, Krunose wrote:
> 
> If I were you, I would make it like this: In Outline and Numbering...
> set Level 1 so filed 'Number' is empty. In filed 'before' enter word
> 'Chapter' in filed 'After' put 'space'. Click OK.
> 
> Now, leave empty paragraph, next paragraph style as Heading one, and
> then leave another empty paragraph.
> 
> Middle paragraph (Heading 1) will have 'Chapter '. Now follow
> instructions at
> 
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/4331/how-can-i-have-a-custom-numbered-field/
> 
> 
> Now you will have 'Chapter 1'.
> 
> Next step is to select all three paragraphs (Heading 1 being in the
> middle) and hit CTRL + F3 as that will open AutoText dialog. Add name
> for new AutoText and go AutoText → New.
> 
> On every page you wish to add 'Chapter #' just entery shortcut you
> defined when naming new AutoText and hit F3.
> 
> Benefit: Having word 'Chapter ' followed by auto incremented numbers and
> all appearing in TOC.
> 
> Kruno

Thanks Krono, but this is way too complicated and inconvenient for the
people I am training. Plus it is a workaround, not documented in our
help and documentation facilities.

Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with chapter numbering and TOC.

[DaveB]

On 18.11.2019 14:23, Philip Jackson wrote:
> Hi Dave:
> 
> Of course, my note was written before I saw your reply to Regina. It
> hadn't been received by the list at that time.
> See below for other thoughts:
> 
> On 18/11/2019 10:35, DaveB wrote:
>> On 17.11.2019 16:26, Philip Jackson wrote:
>>> On 14/11/2019 07:58, Dave Barton wrote:
>>>> I have set up chapter numbering as per the help page
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/vsq77lu and created a "New Chapter" page style.
>>>>
>>>> After inserting a manual page break with the "New Chapter" page style I
>>>> set the first paragraph style to "Heading 1" and the correct chapter
>>>> name/number is displayed both on the page and in Navigator.
>>>>
>>>> However, when I insert a TOC into the document no chapters appear in
>>>> the
>>>> index.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts or pointers would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking at your original document, it is clear that in the chapters you
>>>> have created, all that appears in the heading of each chapter is the
>>>> 'Before' and 'After' elements that you have specified in the dialog box
>>>> of Tools > Chapter Numbering. As Regina states in her reply, you have
>>>> not typed anything of your own invention.
>> Look at my reply to Regina. My own invention is the word "Chapter" plus
>> a single space in the Before field.
> 
> When I  said 'your own invention' I wasn't explicit enough. I didn't
> take the 'Before' and 'After' fields' contents as 'your invention'. I
> took them as fields already prescribed as adjuncts to the Chapter number
> (the subject of the dialog box).  I was instead wishing to refer to
> material that the author would 'normally' write in the H1 heading at the
> top of his new chapter.
> 
> Here 'normally' is used, I admit, in reference to what I would do and
> what I have seen in many other books, that is some sort of short
> description of the order of one to five words. To this group of 'one to
> five words', LO's chapter numbering would add the number plus the
> contents of the 'Before' and 'After' fields either side of the number
> and before your choice of short description.
> 
> Example for a possible first chapter of a book :   "1 - Introduction"
> 
> where the 'Before' field has been left empty, the digit 1 is the number
> automatically supplied, the 'After' field contains
> - and 'Introduction' is my invention for the first
> chapter description.
> 
> This is what Regina meant when she said your headings have no content
> and you should supply some text even if only a blank space.
> 
> [Sorry, I cannot find your short one page example anymore - only the
> longer "World's Most Amazing Book" file]
> 
> As a check and demonstration, go to the page in your 'TOC test.odt' file
> where the new chapter 2 starts and highlight the heading on the page by
> clicking after the figure 2 and dragging to the beginning of the line.
> You'll see that nothing is selected - you can't drag to the start of the
> line. 'Chapter 2' is just the 'Before' and 'After' fields surrounding
> the figure 2 and with no other content.I have unzipped both the origin
> documents that brought this issue to my
> 
>> attention and the simplified example I created, but I have been unable
>> to find any issue with their internal structure.
>>
>> I am having some difficulty working out what you mean by adding space
>> between the TOC and the (first line ?). Could I ask you to send me a
>> copy of your example file off list please?
> 
> As I said, I couldn't identify what was causing the lack of correct
> display of the first chapter in your short example document. I assumed
> that it was somehow connected with the proximity to the TOC but I didn't
> exhaust the checking I just made my own example doc which I'll be
> pleased to send you by PM. I'm not sure it's useful to spend much time
> on it. And in any case, I didn't keep your file and the only one I can
> find today is the Word's Most Amazing Book file.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Philip

Hi Philip,

Thanks for coming back on this. There was only ever one "TOC test.odt"
sample document, which had a title page "World's Most Amazing Book" and
a few "New Chapter" styled pages.

Thanks to Regina's explanation and your further clarification here, I
now understand the situation.

While it is IMO totally wrong to require the user to add ANYTHING to the
outline style generated content to obtain a working TOC, that is the way
it has been coded and we users just have to live with it.

Best Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with chapter numbering and TOC. {SOLVED}

[DaveB]

 Original Message 
From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019, 12:27 UTC
To: DaveB
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem with chapter numbering and TOC.

> Hi Dave,
> 
> answer below.
> 
> 
> DaveB schrieb am 18-Nov-19 um 10:35:
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019, 11:55 UTC
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem with chapter numbering and TOC.
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Dave Barton schrieb am 17-Nov-19 um 09:19:
>>>>
>>>> I have created a sample document with a near identical structure and
>>>> made it available at:
>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/file/4dqiurp1sv9z1zk/TOC_Test.odt/file
>>>>
>>>> It would be much appreciated if someone could take a look at this
>>>> document and offer any suggestions about why the automatically
>>>> generated
>>>> chapter headings are not appearing in the TOC.
>>>
>>> Your headings have no content. You need to write at least a blank.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>
>> Sorry Regina, can you explain what you mean by "no content". The chapter
>> headings are auto-generated by the "Heading 1" paragraph style and are
>> clearly visible in the first paragraph of each chapter break in the
>> document and also in the Navigator.
>>
>> When the Chapter Numbering dialog is first opened both the Before and
>> After fields are empty. I filled the Before field with the word
>> "Chapter" plus one space.
>>
> 
> The heading in the text is e.g. "Chapter 1". The part "Chapter " is
> generated by the outline style and the part "1" is generated by the
> outline style too. So the heading in the text has no own content, but
> what you see is totally generated by the outline style.
> 
> "True" headings would be for example
> Chapter 1 Introduction
> Chapter 2 Examples
> Chapter 3 Experiments
> Chapter 4 Conclusions
> where "Introduction", "Examples", "Experiments", "Conclusions" are the
> content of the respective heading.
> 
> To be shown in the TOC, there need to be some content in the heading.
> And because you decide to have no content there, I have suggested to use
> a blank instead of a real content. So your heading in the text would be
> "Chapter 1 "
>   ^-- blank
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina

Many thanks for the perfect explanation Regina.

While it's unclear why it was coded that way and is definitely not
intuitive, it does provide a solution.

When I have the time I will add a not to the on-line help and ask
Olivier to make a note for the help file in the next release. I will
check out the Getting Started and Writer Guides to ensure this point is
made clear in the next revisions.

Kind Regards
Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with chapter numbering and TOC.

[DaveB]

My apologies Regina. I meant to post
to the list not to you directly.


Regards


Dave
On 18.11.2019 09:35, DaveB wrote:
 Original Message 
From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019, 11:55 UTC
To:users@global.libreoffice.orgSubject: [libreoffice-users] Problem with 
chapter numbering and TOC.Hi Dave,


Dave Barton schrieb am 17-Nov-19 um 09:19:I have created a sample document with 
a near identical structure and
made it available 
at:http://www.mediafire.com/file/4dqiurp1sv9z1zk/TOC_Test.odt/fileIt would be 
much appreciated if someone could take a look at this
document and offer any suggestions about why the automatically generated
chapter headings are not appearing in the TOC.Your headings have no content. 
You need to write at least a blank.


Kind regards
ReginaSorry Regina, can you explain what you mean by "no content". The chapter
headings are auto-generated by the "Heading 1" paragraph style and are
clearly visible in the first paragraph of each chapter break in the
document and also in the Navigator.


When the Chapter Numbering dialog is first opened both the Before and
After fields are empty. I filled the Before field with the word
"Chapter" plus one space.


Thanksregards
Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with chapter numbering and TOC.

[DaveB]

Hi Philip,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. My responses are given in-line.

On 17.11.2019 16:26, Philip Jackson wrote:
> On 14/11/2019 07:58, Dave Barton wrote:
>> I have set up chapter numbering as per the help page
>> https://tinyurl.com/vsq77lu and created a "New Chapter" page style.
>>
>> After inserting a manual page break with the "New Chapter" page style I
>> set the first paragraph style to "Heading 1" and the correct chapter
>> name/number is displayed both on the page and in Navigator.
>>
>> However, when I insert a TOC into the document no chapters appear in the
>> index.
>>
>> Any thoughts or pointers would be welcome.
>>
>> Thanks Dave
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Looking at your original document, it is clear that in the chapters you
> have created, all that appears in the heading of each chapter is the
> 'Before' and 'After' elements that you have specified in the dialog box
> of Tools > Chapter Numbering. As Regina states in her reply, you have
> not typed anything of your own invention.

Look at my reply to Regina. My own invention is the word "Chapter" plus
a single space in the Before field.

> Directly after Chapter 1, in the H1 heading above your text, type for
> example 'The Start'. Then right click in the TOC and select 'Update
> Index' and watch 'The Start' appear directly after Chapter 1 and before
> the long line of dots leading to the page number (3).

Yes I am fully aware of how to create a TOC. However, I stumbled over
this issue when preparing a LibreOffice training session for a group of
novice authors and I wanted to work "by the book" so that they could
accurately use our help files and documentation for future reference.

> The instructions you repeated from the help pages do work. Your later
> specially created test doc has a problem between the TOC and the first
> line - don't know what it is but when I created a similar file, leaving
> lots of space between the TOC and the body, it works perfectly.

I have unzipped both the origin documents that brought this issue to my
attention and the simplified example I created, but I have been unable
to find any issue with their internal structure.

I am having some difficulty working out what you mean by adding space
between the TOC and the (first line ?). Could I ask you to send me a
copy of your example file off list please?

> But you must, as Regina says, add some sort of title to your chapter
> heading, even a blank space.

See my reply above.

> hth
> Philip

Again thank you for trying to help.

Regards
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personas

[DaveB]

Hi Jean-Francois,

You are a champion. After making a couple more changes and taking note
of your note about the path (I keep forgetting Linux case sensitivity)
IT WORKED!!! :) A bit more below.

On 27.09.2018 21:38, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Le 27/09/2018 à 20:25, DaveB a écrit :
>>
>> Sadly, it did not work. My results are in-line with your previous
>> message.
>
> I have had situations where it didn't work at once but did finally.
>
> The symptom is, indeed, that the Expert settings are not saved.

Yes, it does seem to require a few retries.

>
> Here's my current setting:
> libreoffice_4_light_ambience/header.png;libreoffice_4_light_ambience/header.png;#00;#F5F5F5
>
>
> (guess which Firefox theme I have chosen ;)

Snap! I think it was probably one of your previous posts that put me
onto the light_ambience.png It is so much nicer than the LO "battleship
grey/gray" of the standard header background. Many people who see it,
make good comments.

>
>> [...] I changed the directory and file name to exactly match yours.
>> My path =
>> /home/dave/.config/libreoffice/4/user/gallery/Persona/MyPersona/MyHeader.png
>>
>
> /!\ this should read:
>
> /home/dave/.config/libreoffice/4/user/gallery/personas/MyPersona/MyHeader.png
>
>
> -> "personas" with a lower case initial and with a final S
>
> my bad /o\
>
> Should work on your side now. Sorry for the misleading.

No apology necessary. I am thankful you continued to work with me.

>
> Best,

Best Regards
Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personas

[DaveB]

Hi Jean-Francois,

Sadly, it did not work. My results are in-line with your previous message.

On 27.09.2018 17:06, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Le 27/09/2018 à 16:38, DaveB a écrit :
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Firefox Personas (renamed Themes) no longer work in LO and there is a
>> proposal [1] to deprecate or replace them. However, I have 2 in my LO
>> profile on Windows, which I would like to have them in LO on a new Linux
>> install. I have copied the images into the equivalent Linux directory
>> and edited the advanced configuration file, but I cannot get LO under
>> Linux to show either of the personas. Obviously there is something else
>> it is necessary to configure.
>>
>> Any thoughts or pointers would be welcome.
>>
>
> I'm using personas under Linux without problem (LibO 5.4.6.2).
>
> Here's how I do that. FWIW I don't temper with the configuration file,
> just using the advanced configuration options.
>
> 1. The personas are stored as subdirs within the user's profile,
> Gallery/Persona directory.
>
> Say I add a "MyPersona" subdir there.
> In this subdir, I add the persona graphic file (for instance, a .png).
> Say its name is MyHeader.png.

I changed the directory and file name to exactly match yours.
My path =
/home/dave/.config/libreoffice/4/user/gallery/Persona/MyPersona/MyHeader.png

>
> 2. In LibO, Tools > Options, LibreOffice, Advanced, Open expert
> configuration.

No problem.

>
> 3. I enter "persona" (without quotes) in the search bar.
>
> LibO finds the org.openoffice.Office.Common > Misc branch, with two
> keys: Persona and PersonaSettings

OK, so far.

>
> 4. Set Persona to "own" (without quotes)

OK, I set it to "own" (without quotes)

>
> 5. Set PersonaSettings to follow the sequence mask:
>
> ;;;
>
> Where
>
> : the path to your header file within the personas
> profile subdir.
> Using the example above would give
> MyPersona/MyHeader.png
>
> : same as for header file name.
> You may repeat using the header file name.
>
> : RGB in hex with a "#" prefix.
> For a black front color, it gives: #00
> This color is used for menu character painting.
>
> : same as for front color. AFAIK, unused.
>
> 6. Wrap up
>
> The whole string in this example would give:
>
> MyPersona/MyHeader.png;MyPersona/MyHeader.png;#00;#F5F5F5

Since I had changed my path and file name to exactly match yours, I
simply copied and pasted the above line into the edit field.
OK'd out of Expert Configuration and Options.

>
> Once validated, the new theme is propagated to new documents (the
> current file environment is not changed yet).

Not sure I fully understand what the above line means, but:

  * I tried immediately opening a new document. No persona.
  * I went back into Expert Configuration and my previous settings were
gone.
  * I again edited the settings and tried closing and restarting LO. No
persona.
  * Next, I went back into Expert Configuration and again edited the
settings, OK'd out of Expert Configuration and immediately when back
in again to find that my settings had already been lost.


>
> To get to these grips, I read a blog article that I'm totally unable
> to find right now. Too bad I couldn't cite the author.
>
>
> HTH,

If it had worked, it would have been a fantastically simple solution.
Maybe something has changed between your 5.4.6.2 and my 6.1.1.2 which
cases LO to ignore or drop Expert Configuration changes. Guess I will
just have to learn to love LO's boring "battleship grey" colors.

However, I thank you again for taking the time to try and help.

Best Regards
Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personas

[DaveB]

 Original Message  
From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker 
To: DaveB , LibreOffice Users

Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:06:09 +0200


> Hi Dave,
> 
> Le 27/09/2018 à 16:38, DaveB a écrit :
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Firefox Personas (renamed Themes) no longer work in LO and there is a
>> proposal [1] to deprecate or replace them. However, I have 2 in my LO
>> profile on Windows, which I would like to have them in LO on a new Linux
>> install. I have copied the images into the equivalent Linux directory
>> and edited the advanced configuration file, but I cannot get LO under
>> Linux to show either of the personas. Obviously there is something else
>> it is necessary to configure.
>>
>> Any thoughts or pointers would be welcome.
>>
> 
> I'm using personas under Linux without problem (LibO 5.4.6.2).
> 
> Here's how I do that. FWIW I don't temper with the configuration file,
> just using the advanced configuration options.
> 
> 1. The personas are stored as subdirs within the user's profile,
> Gallery/Persona directory.
> 
> Say I add a "MyPersona" subdir there.
> In this subdir, I add the persona graphic file (for instance, a .png).
> Say its name is MyHeader.png.
> 
> 2. In LibO, Tools > Options, LibreOffice, Advanced, Open expert
> configuration.
> 
> 3. I enter "persona" (without quotes) in the search bar.
> 
> LibO finds the org.openoffice.Office.Common > Misc branch, with two
> keys: Persona and PersonaSettings
> 
> 4. Set Persona to "own" (without quotes)
> 
> 5. Set PersonaSettings to follow the sequence mask:
> 
> ;;;
> 
> Where
> 
> : the path to your header file within the personas
> profile subdir.
> Using the example above would give
> MyPersona/MyHeader.png
> 
> : same as for header file name.
> You may repeat using the header file name.
> 
> : RGB in hex with a "#" prefix.
> For a black front color, it gives: #00
> This color is used for menu character painting.
> 
> : same as for front color. AFAIK, unused.
> 
> 6. Wrap up
> 
> The whole string in this example would give:
> 
> MyPersona/MyHeader.png;MyPersona/MyHeader.png;#00;#F5F5F5
> 
> Once validated, the new theme is propagated to new documents (the
> current file environment is not changed yet).
> 
> 
> 
> To get to these grips, I read a blog article that I'm totally unable to
> find right now. Too bad I couldn't cite the author.
> 
> 
> HTH,

Many thanks Jean-Francois, I will try this a little later and report back.

Best Regards
Dave



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[libreoffice-users] Personas

[DaveB]

Hi Folks,

Firefox Personas (renamed Themes) no longer work in LO and there is a
proposal [1] to deprecate or replace them. However, I have 2 in my LO
profile on Windows, which I would like to have them in LO on a new Linux
install. I have copied the images into the equivalent Linux directory
and edited the advanced configuration file, but I cannot get LO under
Linux to show either of the personas. Obviously there is something else
it is necessary to configure.

Any thoughts or pointers would be welcome.

Dave

[1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119868

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Re: [libreoffice-users] centring text boxes

[DaveB]

On 25.09.2018 09:59, Mike Scott wrote:
> Today's daft question.
>
> Why can't you automatically centre up a text box on the page in Writer?
>
> If I have an image, I do R-click, Alignment, and pick from a useful
> selection of options.
>
> Try the same on a text box and I get "".
>
> It makes laying out a page (and I've just started on an order of
> service for a funeral) decidedly frustrating.
>
> (Nor for that matter do styles work in a text box. I fail to
> understand the issues here.)

Hi Mike,

Not a daft question, but Draw might be a better choice for what you are
doing. To center align text boxes in Writer you need to first change the
anchoring. When you initially draw the text box it is, by default,
anchored to the paragraph, which allows the box to be manually
positioned anywhere on the page. Select "Anchor" from the right click
context menu and choose "As Character", then set the paragraph to be
center aligned.

Hope this helps.

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Executable File?

[DaveB]

On 07.06.2018 15:38, Peggy wrote:
> I need to choose the file that opens Libre Office writer for a another
> program's option. I can't recognize which file it is in my progarms. Can
> you tell me the name of the file I should choose?
> Thank you,
> Peggy

Hi Peggy,

Assuming you are using some version of Windows, Look for a file called
swriter.exe

The historical reason for the leading "s" is that the original software,
on which today's code is based, was called StarOffice and the word
processor component was called StarWriter.

Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Style updates in Writer

[DaveB]

On 03.02.2018 12:00, Ianseeks wrote:
> Thanks for that advice, i'll definitely put my head down and learn more about 
> styles especially now i know about Ctrl-M etc.
>
> all the best
>
> Ian

Hi Ian,

I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but if you want to get to
grips with styles and templates I recommend you download and read a copy
of Bruce Byfield's book "Designing with LibreOffice"
http://designingwithlibreoffice.com/. Don't be mislead by the title, IMO
it is one of the best sources of advice about using LibreOffice styles.
Another useful resource is the recently published LibreOffice 5.4 Writer
Guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
which includes some very good chapters on styles and templates.

Hope this helps.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installation of LO 6.0.0.3 (x64) on Win10Pro

[DaveB]

On 02.02.2018 17:27, Philip Jackson wrote:
> On 02/02/18 14:22, DaveB wrote:
>> The problem does not appear when the en_US Help Pack is installed.
> Thanks for that idea, Dave. I just downloaded and installed the en_US
> pack and it all works as expected [at least at first glance. time will
> tell].  I wondered about removing the en_GB help pack first but I didn't
> - thought I'd just try the en_US.
>
> So both are now installed and LO just recogniz(s)es the en_US version.
>
> Maybe the LO help devs are based in the EU and they don't approve of
> Brexit ?
>
> Philip

It doesn't seem to make any difference if you leave the en_GB installed
or not, the en_US edition is recognised and used in both cases.

Not a big issue for me, I've been married to an American for many years,
so I can accommodate their "odd" terminology & spelling ;)

Brexit!!! Who in their right mind could approve of it. This nonsense has
created many problems for me personally, so I sure as  don't approve.

Peter: I was using Win 7_x64 Ult. and Philip gave the information in the
subject line of his original post. I switched to a fully updated Win
10_x64 box and got the same failure as previously reported.

Mark: You have almost nailed the solution. It's not the interface
language that has to be set, it is setting the global Locale to English
(UK) that allows the en_GB Help to work as expected. Thank you.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installation of LO 6.0.0.3 (x64) on Win10Pro

[DaveB]

On 02.02.2018 12:07, Philip Jackson wrote:
> I'm mostly using LO on linux but I have kept a version [5.4. ish] of LO
> on a Windows box for occasional testing of documents. Having read a
> recent post which spoke enthusiastically about some LO 6 features, I
> thought I would give it go.
>
> I downloaded and installed both these two files from libreoffice.org's
> download page :
>
> LibreOffice_6.0.0_Win_x64.msi
>
> LibreOffice_6.0.0_Win_x64_helppack_en-GB.msi
>
> LibreOffice Writer, Calc and Impress applications appear to work
> correctly but trying to get the LO Help (F1) to work brings up an error
> message -
>
> "The LibreOffice built-in help is not installed on your computer"
>
> I downloaded the help pack a second time and ran the installer. It
> recognised the first installation and offered the repair option, which I
> accepted. But F1 help still does not work.
>
> When looking in C:\Program Files\LibreOffice, the help directory appears
> to be stuffed with lots of files.
>
> Any ideas how to get the applications to recognise the presence of the
> help files?
>
> Philip
>
I am experiencing the same issue. The SHA256 checked download of
LibreOffice_6.0.0_Win_x64_helppack_en-GB.msi installs without any
problem, but calling help (F1 or menu) returns the "Not Installed"
message, although Windows installed programs shows the en_GB Help Pack
as being installed.

The problem does not appear when the en_US Help Pack is installed.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which was the last version of LO able to run on Win XP?

[DaveB]

On 13.10.2017 16:03, Cley Faye wrote:
> 2017-10-13 14:41 GMT+02:00 DaveB :
>
>> Please let's not have discussions about MS having ended support for XP.
>> There are still an enormous number of machines out there running XP SP3
>> POS Ready 2009, which MS are still actively supporting. MS most recent
>> XP update (October 2017) added support for TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 to XP POS
>> Ready 2009, See Microsoft Secure Blog: http://bit.ly/2ylRGDo
>>
>> I have successfully screwed up LO on a client's XP POS Ready machine (my
>> fault for not testing on a VM first), by installing LO 5.4.2 over the
>> previous 4.4.7.2 install. The 5.4 installer completes without any
>> complaint, gleefully removing the old version, but on start up the
>> splash screen flashes and soffice dies without a murmur. Would have been
>> nice if the devs had added the very simple system check call to
>> installer and blocked the install. Yes, the information is there for
>> anyone who wants to dig down into the release notes:
>> http://bit.ly/2yjj2Ir But how many users read software release notes or
>> EULAs? It's also about time we updated the misleading "/System
>> Requirements/" page http://bit.ly/2yh0SHo which still reads
>> "/LibreOffice on a Windows system are as follows: Microsoft _*Windows
>> XP*__*SP3*_, Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows
>> Server 2012, or Windows 10/".
>>
>> Two questions:
>>
>>  1. Which was the last version able to run on Win XP?
>>  2. Are there any known security issues with that version?
>>
> ​After a quick test, I found that the 5.3.7.1 version works fine in XP​.
> The latest 5.4 doesn't, but I'm not sure exactly which subversion started
> to fail. I can confirm however that it doesn't output any error message,
> neither on the GUI or on the command line. The splash screen just flash. No
> error or warning in system logs either.
>
> The website should probably be updated (or, if possible, the issue causing
> a crash fixed instead). I'm tempted to say that losing XP compatibility
> wasn't done on purpose.
>
> I can't provide an answer for known security issues, although common sense
> says that it's more likely to have some (there's always security issues)
> and that they might be fixed in more recent versions. However, not talking
> too much about the end of support of XP, it is itself a large attack vector
> at this point, so I'm not sure that obscure security issues with
> libreoffice would be relevant. Beyond the usual "disable script by default"
> advice, it's most likely safe enough to use in such conditions.
>
After some considerable testing, I came to much the same conclusion and
installed 5.3.7.1 on the client's machine. Surprising how fast and
smooth it runs under XP on a ratty old single core Pentium.

IIRC there was agreement at a fairly recent ESC meeting that XP support
would be dropped, but I wasn't able to track down the minutes of that
meeting to know which was the first version it applied to.

Yes unpatched XP machines are a large attack vector, but when you see
the number of security updates MS rolls out for the XP POS edition each
month it's obvious that MS are really knocking themselves out to keep
that edition patched. There must be a fair number of heavyweight
corporate/government customers MS wants to keep on-side. Let's all hope
that MS are working even harder to keep the UK's "/Windows XP for
Warships/" fully patched http://bit.ly/2ynpmys Could get a bit exciting
to have hacked nuclear submarines popping off Trident missiles.

I've checked LO security advisories http://bit.ly/2ykHcCn and there
doesn't appear to be anything in 5.3.7.1 that might case my client any
major headaches. He has a regularly updated copy of MS Security
Essentials installed, plus a fairly solid firewall and intrusion
monitoring setup.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Is there any way to turn off that splash screen?

[DaveB]

On 13.10.2017 23:37, MR ZenWiz wrote:
> I don't really need to see LO loading and obscuring what happens to be
> on my screen.
>
> Can it be turned off?
>
> Thanks.
> MR

Couple of options:

 1. Command line or shortcut "--nologo"
See:
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Starting_the_Software_With_Parameters

 2. 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/51144/how-do-i-disable-the-splash-screen-in-libreoffice/

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[libreoffice-users] Which was the last version of LO able to run on Win XP?

[DaveB]

Please let's not have discussions about MS having ended support for XP.
There are still an enormous number of machines out there running XP SP3
POS Ready 2009, which MS are still actively supporting. MS most recent
XP update (October 2017) added support for TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 to XP POS
Ready 2009, See Microsoft Secure Blog: http://bit.ly/2ylRGDo

I have successfully screwed up LO on a client's XP POS Ready machine (my
fault for not testing on a VM first), by installing LO 5.4.2 over the
previous 4.4.7.2 install. The 5.4 installer completes without any
complaint, gleefully removing the old version, but on start up the
splash screen flashes and soffice dies without a murmur. Would have been
nice if the devs had added the very simple system check call to
installer and blocked the install. Yes, the information is there for
anyone who wants to dig down into the release notes:
http://bit.ly/2yjj2Ir But how many users read software release notes or
EULAs? It's also about time we updated the misleading "/System
Requirements/" page http://bit.ly/2yh0SHo which still reads
"/LibreOffice on a Windows system are as follows: Microsoft _*Windows
XP*__*SP3*_, Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows
Server 2012, or Windows 10/".

Two questions:

 1. Which was the last version able to run on Win XP?
 2. Are there any known security issues with that version?

Thanks

Dave

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