[libreoffice-users] Python

2016-03-19 Thread Mark Stanton
Does the Python macro interface work?
Does it work well if it does work?

Mark

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Python

2016-03-19 Thread Mark Stanton
On Friday 18 March 2016 10:39:07 Jim Byrnes wrote:
> On 03/18/2016 09:44 AM, Mark Stanton wrote:
> > Does the Python macro interface work?
> 
> Yes

Gr8!  Many thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Use KAddressBook As LibreOffice Resource

2015-12-13 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Don,

> I want to use KAddressBook as the resource for my LibreOffice mailmerge.
> Unfortunately, the only way this seems possible is by exporting the
> contacts from KAddressBook to a CSV file.

That sucks.
It *should* be quite easy since Kontact uses Akonadi which uses MySQL, so you 
should be able to use the MySQL connector to link directly to the database...

No, I've not done it, but... :)

I'm not surprised at the lack of either documentation or chat about it, 
unfortunately.

Regards
Mark

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[libreoffice-users] Shortcut for Recent documents

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Stanton
Does anyone here know why, in version 4.4(.5.2) is the shortcut for 
Recent Documents on the File menu U? It always (?) Used to be 
R. There doesn't appear to be any clash which would stop it being 
R now, not in Writer at least.

Anyone?

Mark



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[libreoffice-users] Writer mailmerge functionality changed?

2015-07-31 Thread Mark Stanton
I've just upgraded (I assume, it was actually an OS upgdate) to 
4.4.4.3 running under Fedora 22 and a mailmerge document that's been 
working quite happily for a few years fails to work now.

The problem is conditional statements in hidden paragraphs where the 
condition is EQ or == fail to evaluate table fields unless I  
qualify them. Being in a rush I fully qualified them 
(Database.Table.Field).  I don't know if they would've worked 
without the database qualifier.

Other qualifiers that merely test for the field being non empty 
(NOT(field)) still work.

Has this been a conscious change or simply an unwanted side-effect?

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base, connect to map/grid ?

2015-05-14 Thread Mark Stanton
MySQL comes with mapping capabilities, I believe.
There is, or used to be, a large section in its manual about how that 
works.

I don't know how it works because I've never taken the time to read 
those sections, but it might give you an idea on how to implement 
something.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Multi-source Mail Merge

2015-05-10 Thread Mark Stanton
This sounds like an interesting problem.

So, just doing it manually, how do *you* know how many spreadsheets are 
required for any particular result?

Mark Stanton
One small step for mankind...

In article 554e54ba.9070...@bak.rr.com, A wrote:
 I have multiple spreadsheet files that each represent one unique item.  
 As an analogy, think of the spreadsheet as a basket that contains a 
 variety of eggs (both calculated and hand-entered data). I have multiple 
 baskets each with multiple eggs.  Each basket (spreadsheet) is 
 associated with one person.  Each person can have multiple baskets 
 (although that's probably not relevant).
 
 I also have a letter, with which I want to do a mail merge - against 
 each spreadsheet.  i.e. each letter needs to draw multiple pieces of 
 data (eggs) from each spreadsheet, one letter per spreadsheet.
 
 Normally to do a mail merge you have one data source.  The problem of 
 course is that I don't have one data source, I have an unknown number - 
 each spreadsheet is a data source.  So I'm at a loss as to how to mail 
 merge against multiple data sources in an automated fashion.
 
 Thank you in advance.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] And while I'm here, data extraction

2015-02-03 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks all.

I've been thinking about this.

Firstly, the cut'n'paste solution isn't working here for me on the 
results (23 rows, perhaps ten columns) of a query in SQL view with 
Fedora Linux (20) and LO 4.2.8.2 (please don't suggest I upgrade to 
the latest as I'm using the OS repos, and there hasn't been any work 
on Base in that time anyway)(has there?). It doesn't work in design 
view either I now find.

To be clear selecting all the data in the result and pressing ^C (or 
selecting Copy from the edit menu) then selecting a blank Calc 
spreadsheet and pressing ^V (or selecting Paste from the edit menu) 
doesn't produce any data whatsoever in the spreadsheet.  I little 
experimentation has shown me that selecting either a complete column 
or a single cell in the result set, pressing ^C and then pressing ^V 
in the spreadsheet *both* give me a single cell output to the 
spreadsheet.

Something does seem to be copying into the spreadsheet. Trying to past 
multiple cells like this clears the previous contents of the cell but 
there is nothing to see. Saving the sheet, which looks empty, produces 
a file of 10.2kb where saving an a truly empty sheet is 10.1kb.

Is there some setting I've miss-set?

Stope Press Pasting a small table (35 rows five cols) works, 
although, strangely, it brings in an extra row for column names. Not 
much use bringing in a table. That's what we need databases for in the 
first place, to manipulate tables to produce results.

Having said all of that, is it ideal that the only way to get a data 
output from Base is C'n'P?

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] And while I'm here, data extraction

2015-02-03 Thread Mark Stanton
Hmm

 You must not copy any opened table or query. You copy and paste the _icon_ of
 a query or table.

That's not what the three answers above said, nor indeed what is intuitive (to 
me), 
and  indeed cutting and pasting small amounts of data from the result set does 
work, which I would expect/hope for (without the small), but I'll give it a 
go...
Wow! *That* works really well. I'd say that it requires a very odd intuitive
leap, and I don't remember seeing it written in the docs anywhere, did I just 
miss it?


 You can also link record sets to spreadsheet ranges and pivot tables which
 gives quite a powerful report engine.

Am I right this is only almost great? I don't see how to define a datasource,
it just seems to be picking up data from the last icon I dragged to the sheet.


 [Tutorial] Using registered datasources in Calc
 https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75t=18511  

That is very good, thank you. I must remember to look in the OpenOffice areas
more often.


 You do not tell us which database you are using (no, Base is _not_ a
 database). 

With over thirty years of database coding and consulting I'm very well aware 
that Base isn't a database. In the previous thread I said, MariaDb (under
Fedora).


 If it happens to be an embedded HSQLDB 

Yes, I saw this, but decided to ignore it. Given the trouble it causes, surely
it's not a good idea to recommend embedded HSQLDB for any purpose, is it?


 Finally you can drag a record set from the data source window into a Writer
 document and choose Text export. In that dialog you can concatenate the
 wanted fields in one line with some delimiter between the fields. Then save
 as plain text.

Wild! I don't see a text export though, other than saving the Writer file as
a text file.

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[libreoffice-users] And while I'm here, data extraction

2015-02-02 Thread Mark Stanton
There seems to be no way to output *data* from Base, is that right?

For my purposes at the moment, what would be perfectly acceptable 
would be a csv file but I can't find a way to do that, is there 
something?

Yes, I know I can produce a report, but you don't want to see what 
that looks like when you force the output into a text file, and a 
merged writer document will not produce raw data like this (will it?)

Again, have I missed the answer?

Mark



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[libreoffice-users] JDBC params - the J null date problem

2015-02-02 Thread Mark Stanton
I'm accessing a MariaDb (howzatt Tom? ;-) ) database through a JDBC 
connection on Linux (the native connector doesn't work, not sure why, 
yet). When accessing a datetime column with some rows set to 
'-00-00 00:00:00' Base complains and refuses due to this being an 
invalid (js) date.

I note from a quick search that this is a well known problem. There 
are some solutions involving to the JDBC connector load string, which 
seems to not be accessible from Base. Is that a good idea?

The only solution that I've found involves casting the field to a 
string. It works, but I'd prefer not to have to.

Is there something I've missed?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] JDBC params - the J null date problem

2015-02-02 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 54cf6b6e.6030...@aon.at, Heinrich Stöllinger wrote:
 Also - one obviously specify MORE than just ONE parameter in the connection
 string, such as
 dbname?autoReconnect=truezeroDateTimeBehavior=convertToNull
 Heinrich
 Alex Thurgood schrieb:
  The way is to add the parameter in the field where you specify which
  database to connect to :
 
  nameofmydb?zeroDateTimeBehavior=convertToNull

Thanks both!
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[libreoffice-users] Base knows SQL functions?

2014-11-28 Thread Mark Stanton
It seems that Base has a list of keywords and functions for SQL, is 
that right?

On the one hand it might be a good thing, on the other, unless the 
list is kept up to date then it's a real pain.

For example, ADD_DATE (or DATEADD) in MariaDb, doesn't seem to be on 
its list. That means that, even though it's perfectly acceptable SQL 
for the backend, and even though Base does no querying itself, it 
won't pass on a query with this function in it.  There are (many) 
other examples.

Any thoughts?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base knows SQL functions?

2014-11-28 Thread Mark Stanton
 If you decide to use function(s) that are database specific, you tie the 
 application you are creating to that database. It will no longer be 
 functional if yout switch from i.e. MariaDB to MSSQL.

That's a good point, but not the one I was making. If I choose to change 
database then I would of course have to change any product specific 
funtionality but

 If you are using Base, you can use function in Base, no mather what 
 database you attach to it.

Ok, having tested a bit further, it in fact seems to be my problem. A 
difference between the documentation I was looking at and the version of 
MaraDb on my machine.

So, to explain it fully, the (very prety and worthwhile) design mode *does* 
appear to have a list of what it knows about... Perhaps it has to... Even 
with that switched off Base still checks and only accepts code it knows 
about, but pressing the SQL button puts it into passthrough mode and it 
*doesn't* check (hurrah!). I think I should've know all that before :-(

If course if, like me, you use stuff your database server doesn't recognise 
it still won't work :-(

The way to check is to put the query into the server directly through its 
own console, or something like phpMyAdmin if you're also running a 
webserver.

Regards
Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base knows SQL functions?

2014-11-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Tom,

 Time for a bug-report?

I thought I'd just test the water here first. I've not had time to work with 
Base for a (very) long time now, but this might bring me back (and other 
situations are easing) if I'm right.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Help Anyone

2014-11-19 Thread Mark Stanton
Tom, I'm not entirely sure, when you said

 So, it's only Base that loses data

that you properly comunicated what you meant. What did you mean?

I would absolutely agree with the comments made about not storing binaries in 
the database. It's not a good idea, whatever database you use.

And don't use the standard HSQLdb included setup, it's really too prone to 
errors.

Regards
Mark



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[libreoffice-users] Properties Toolbar?

2014-09-25 Thread Mark Stanton
What is this thing and why can't I get rid of it?

In Writer, 4.2.6.3 I now seem to have a properties toolbar. It insists 
on docking on the right hand side of my LO window and won't go away. I 
can undock it, but subseqiently closing it just makes it appear back 
in the LO main window.

What is it? Where does it come from? Where can I turn it off? I don't 
want it.

Mark Stanton
(Clearly feeling a little grumpy)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Properties Toolbar?

2014-09-25 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks both.
Yes, I found it as sidebar. In hindsight not difficult to identify, 
but rather different from the way they're normally named, so it didn't 
strike me at first.

What's the thinking behind that then?

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice on Linux does not see network shares

2014-09-03 Thread Mark Stanton
Same thing happens on Fedora (x86).
I don't think I've ever been able to access files from a Samba share.

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-24 Thread Mark Stanton
As I understand it this is now official government procedure, ie 
law. Isn't that the case? I also understand that not all government 
necessarily wants to abide by its own laws, but this directive seems 
to be binding. Or have I misunderstod the intention?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-23 Thread Mark Stanton
Hmm, a huge public response and A rigorous process was undertaken 
which included considering over 500 public comments and talking 
directly to users. I'd hoped huge was much bigger than that. Oh 
well, at least the message got across.

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[libreoffice-users] Other LO email lists

2014-07-08 Thread Mark Stanton
Even following the unsubscribe instructions on the how to 
unsubscribe web page, I still get the message user unknown.

I'm trying to get off the QA, Devs, Documentation  Marketing lists, 
but two of them appear to be taking no notice, complaining that they 
don't know my address (Recipient address rejected: User unknown). 
I've sent unsubscribe messages according to what it says in the 
website from the accounts that the messages appear to be coming to, 
but no luck.

Any help much appreciated.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other LO email lists

2014-07-08 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Charles, 

 Did you actually subscribe with your current email address? Maybe it
 was a different alias of yours?


Exactly. Which is why I was careful to mention from the accounts that 
the messages appear to be coming to, as detailed in the how to 
unsubscribe web page.

I imagine you're right in thinking that this may be linked to the 
cause, but trying to get the right account doesn't seem to be working.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [MariaDB Announce] MariaDB Galera Cluster 10.0.12 GA and MariaDB 10.1.0 Alpha now available

2014-07-04 Thread Mark Stanton
And, to give an example, Fedora has moved from distributing MySQL as 
default to MariaDb.

Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Dan,

Thanks, yes I know William was mistaken. My post was slightly 
tongue-in-cheek ( long enough ago now that actually I'd forgotten 
about it ;) ).

My guess is that the dBase connection only supports one file because 
it's a file connection not a process connection, there's no database 
engine running for the connector to ask to do the complicated work.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Company Move: Need to Know

2014-04-03 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Sqwuiddy,

I think you'd be best hiring someone in for a few days to help you 
with this. There are several questions that need answers to help 
further.

In general you should be ok on many of these things, I'm not certain 
about all of them.

Nested IF statements do work.

Where is the data that you're merging? How are you accessing it? It 
sounds like you know what you're doing with data in general, so it 
might just be an LO-related issue. Incorrectly accessing that data 
often results in not merging. When you say none of the merge fields 
merged, what, precisely, happened?

Sorry, I don't have time for more.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-02-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 I think that is what Anne-ology is alluding to.

Ah, ok, I didn't know that, thanks.

However, the situation is that if I save the output of the mailmerge directly 
as a pdf (good 
LO, I didn't know that was a possibility) I get this behaviour, whereas if I 
save the exact 
same mailmerge output as an odt document and then save *that* as a pdf, all the 
pages are, 
correctly, landscape.

It is a single page document that I mailmerge from, tho' I s'pose that could 
still have a 
first page options set.  However, the fact that there is a difference between 
the two 
different save strategies, surely, indicates a bug. Doncha think?

Sounds like no-one else has come across this behaviour though.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Stanton
Doh!

I meant, of course, only the first sheet was *portrait* all the 
others were, correctly, *landscape*.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-02-01 Thread Mark Stanton
Err, what settings do you mean?
I tried this twice.  Both times only the first sheet was landscape, 
all the others were portrait, which is the layout of the Writer merge 
document.  What settings should I check?

It's a mailmerge of a single address sheet with a query that holds 
(at the moment) 223 rows.

This is LO 4.1.4.2 under Fedora 19 x86_64

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[libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Stanton
I was amazed to find that the save document option at the end of 
the mailmerge will save directly to a pdf file if I put that in as 
the file extension.

Unfortunately, the first page is portrait when all the rest are 
(correctly) landscape :-(

Has anyone else had this problem or have I done something wrong?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] MariaDB 5.5.33 Now Available

2013-09-19 Thread Mark Stanton
Fedora has also switched.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] eastern font in new version

2013-08-02 Thread Mark Stanton
All quiet on the eastern font, then... :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

2013-07-14 Thread Mark Stanton
Google

When you spell it right, with just those two words you'll get, if 
it's the same as for me, 116k hits.

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[libreoffice-users] Calc bug?

2013-07-11 Thread Mark Stanton
I'm not a frequent Calc user, so this might be just plain wrong, 
however...

With a very wide table I can (as is standard in most GUIs) go a page 
right (or probably left) at a time by clicking in the scrollbar 
between the end stop and the current position indicator.

However, if the column wider than the Calc window, this doesn't work. 
 The cell is placed with its left side at the left of the window and 
and further page clicking to continue scolling doesn't move the 
page.

The page can be moved by using the arrow at the end of the scrollbar, 
or by dragging the position indicator.

Checking actions to write this message pretty much confirms it for 
me.  Or have I made a mistake?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems

2013-05-10 Thread Mark Stanton
How are we to see this thread in the marketing list Tom?  Just 
joining the list won't give it, will it?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base stuck in Read Only mode??

2013-03-27 Thread Mark Stanton
The usual reason for Base being in read only mode is not having 
defined a primary key for your tables.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base stuck in Read Only mode??

2013-03-27 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 5152bfd4.7050...@telkomsa.net, Ian Whitfield wrote:
 Thanks Mark
 
 I think you are right!! I DON'T see a Primary Key!! (I'm sure I DID set it!!)
 BUT - If I try to set it in Base it does not accept the setting.
 
 If I try in MyAdmin to set my first column (RecordID) as Primary I get the 
 error
 #1062 - Duplicate entry '' for key 'PRIMARY' 
 
 I can not see any Primary Key in the list of fields
 So I ran ..
 
 SELECT EXISTS(
   SELECT 1
   FROM information_schema.columns
   WHERE table_schema = 'FedSaintsNew'
  and table_name='TABLE 2'
  and column_key = 'PRI'
 ) As HasPrimaryKey
 
 I get HasPrimaryKey 0
 
 What is stopping me setting the key or how do I get round this??!!

Hi Ian,

Are you saying that phpMyAdmin doesn't show a primary key?  But won't let you 
enter one?  That sounds very odd.

Personally I would do most of the setup in phpMyAdmin rather than Base.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] definition of flat/relational database

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Stanton
Dan, 

As I said in my response above, the distinction that LO is making is 
database engine call or manipulate file directly.

If it manipulates files directly it does it with simple, slightly 
extended, text manipulation.  LO has no database functionality 
itself, for such functions it can only make calls to a database 
engine (ie another program) when it has anything other than simple 
single file manipulation to do.

DBase (for example) has no engine that LO can call to.

Flat file databases are those where there is no ability to  relate 
different tables.  In that respect, outside its correct 
environment, I suppose you could say that dBase files are flat, but 
that is because of the lack of correct environment rather than any 
shortcoming in the files themselves.

That, I think, points to flat file being a misleading term, not 
only because it's not just to do with the file, but also because, at 
least in the beginning, many databases didn't store their data in 
operating-system-recognisable files.

So, my suggestion is to remove the term flat file and instead refer 
to calls to a relational database system engine or direct file 
manipulation.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] definition of flat/relational database

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Thank God Linux came arround when it did...
I am still waiting for a database program that will allow me to 
 create applications

I feel your pain.  I was a professional VFP developer and have now moved to 
Linux and have the same problem.
However, I am wondering if the one solid lump approach is the only way to 
go or if a collection of pieces will do the job as well (or better?)  The 
pieces in Base are actually (potentially) pretty good).  I'm hoping to get 
some time to develop this idea in the not-too-distant future.

C, or its derivatives, would be a very poor database application 
environment imnvho.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill Writer document with MySQL Query.

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Very easy to do.

Use Base to map to the data you want.  If all the fields aren't one 
table then create a query that does generate the data you want and 
save the query.

Use the mailmerge facility to create a document and connect to the 
data you want.  Create fields for the data fields.

Run the mailmerge and step something-or-other (four?) gives you 
opportunity to save your results, save the mailmerged result as 
separate Writer documents.  Simples!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] definition of flat/relational database

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Stanton
I think the (incorrect) definition that is being used is whether LO 
manipulates files directly or talks to a database engine.

I don't think there is a dBase or FoxBase engine.  I'm pretty sure 
there is a Visual FoxPro engine (John doesn't mention VFP, whyzatt 
then? ;) ), however it'll be a Windoze only thing I expect.

So, to answer the original question, LO is calling dBase files flat 
because it can't access a database engine for them and it won't do 
any engine work itself.

A flat database?  Errr, can't think of one, although I know there 
have been such things.

You only had to ask ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Development of Extensions for LibreOffice

2013-02-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Qt isn't a programming language Tom, it's a UI framework (written in 
C++).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
And to allay your fears a little Hank,

the job of moving your *data* to a new back end can be as easy as 
dragging and dropping tables.  Setting up the new back end might 
introduce you to some new ideas so it might take a little to get your 
head around it, but once that's done it might not be hugely 
difficult.

It's possible, of course, that there will be some little niggling 
problems that need to be resolved manually, but it's possible that 
the move can go relatively smoothly and easily.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder

2013-01-21 Thread Mark Stanton
 If you really need to rely on your data keeping its coherency and
 consistency, my advice would be not to use the default hsqldb/ODB pair
 that is provided as the default. It is a shame really, as hsqldb in
 itself, certainly in its 2.0 version, is a capable db engine. It is just
 the integration with AOO/LO that is one of the root causes of many of
 the problems that users experience.

Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is installed and 
used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not the default 
setting.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Compact and Shutdown

2012-12-31 Thread Mark Stanton
Even if it existed, I would be quite surprised if such a thing is 
necessary for MySQL.

Looking through the (5.1) manual, the only references to compact 
(as a verb) as to do with dumping data and a storage structure 
option.  There is nothing (that I can see) listed for it as a 
shutdown option.

It's the difference between an embedded database file and a 
database engine.  MySQL is a database engine.  You only need to send 
it requests and get answers back from it.  Otherwise it does all its 
own housekeeping and management.  You don't tell it to compact its 
data.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Form behavior.

2012-12-06 Thread Mark Stanton
Hank Alper wrote:
 I have observed some strange behavior, however,when using the triangular
 widgets in the navigation bar at the bottom of the forms. For example, when
 I open a form which maintains tables currently containing  201 records, the
 navigation bar indicates 1 of 41 records.As I click my way toward the end

It should (?) be easy to find the number of rows without having a big time 
consuming operation to do it, database engine APIs often provide a function 
for this.  Yes, please put in a change request.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot add primary key after saving without primary key.

2012-10-23 Thread Mark Stanton
Whilst it is recommended that every table should have a primary key 
field, as far as I know HSQLDB is the only engine to enforce this by 
refusing to allow changes to tables not having one.

I certainly think that the code ought to be fixed so that database 
engines that require the field shouldn't allow table creation without 
it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base - need to re-point a form

2012-10-18 Thread Mark Stanton
Is this after you've switched to using a different copy?
It sounds like you have had read/write access in the past, is that 
right?  If so, what changed?

How do you know it's read only?
If your form won't let you change the data it's a local issue, if you 
can save but it makes no difference presumably thems who are 
administering the MySQL have set something.

Often the reason for having read only access through Base is that the 
table in question doesn't have a primary key defined, but if you've 
had write access before and nothing else has changed that would be 
unlikely.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
As well as existing guides by Andrew Pitonyak and others.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Have you tried with a recent release of LibO? 3.4.6 is pretty old

It's the current release from the Fedora repo.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update SQL does nothing using Run SQL directly button

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
And, as a stylistic suggestion, don't use a separate field for 
transaction year, calculate it from transaction date.  The reason is 
that you've created a new classs of issue for yourself by doing this, 
keeping two fields in step.

In general it's best to store basic data and calculate subsidiary 
data from it, don't store subsidiary data.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks for that Steve.

It looks like this is saying that OO/LO needs a specific template for a 
specific input, is that the case?
I hope not, XML is supposed to be a self defining file format surely?  A 
general importer ought to be easy, no?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, I'll put it on the list.

Visual FoxPro (for example) has a built in function, XMLTOCURSOR, 
which takes a string or filename and produces a table.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use 
 Base?

Whilst there is some quite valid criticism of Base, I don't think answering 
this question says as much about Base as it does about the general usage
of databases.  They are less familiar than word processors, spreadsheets or 
drawing packages.

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[libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-03 Thread Mark Stanton
I've got an XML file (I've generated myself, programmatically).

I thought it ought to be easy to import it in LO (3.4.6), somehow.  I 
thougth Calc would be a good bet, but it just gives me General I/O 
error.  Base does the same.

The website 
(help.libreoffice.org/Common/About_Import_and_Export_Filters) 
suggests it ought to be doable but gives no details whatsoever.

Anyone got any pointers I could use?

Regars
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Don,

I'll have a scout about.

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[libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Using a mailmerge document that worked fine in the previous version 
(no, I don't know the number, but very recent, I'm getting updates 
through the Fedora repos) hardly works at all now.

The document is an address sheet with three of images.  It uses 
hidden paragraphs for almost every line, and the images.  

The data navigator shows the correct data, the result of a query.

Mailmerge gets the first line of the address correct, and nothing 
else.

Some fields appear as field names (eg Address1)(yes, I do have 
View Fieldnames turned off), some fields appear as data from a row 
(always the same one) that isn't even in the result set...

This is very peculiar.  Is this is a known issue?  Surely not.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, a little more information, because I've now fixed the problem and 
have a bit more idea of the scope of the mess, which is huge, I'd 
say.

This mailmerge is linked to a query in a MySQL database.

My query couldn't use the query wizard (Andreas won't be surprised).  
In coding the query I wrote the field names in camelcase (eg 
Address1, PersonName), the actual database fields are all in 
lowercase.  Changing this made the mailmerge show data.
However, the query worked prior to that, and in fact the hidden 
paragraph conditions worked correctly, even though they were also in 
camelcase.

Interestingly, calculated fields given camelcase names with AS 
work!  Uncalculated fields given names (eg `Address1` AS `Address1`) 
don't.

Interestingly, again, it seems that some conditional statements don't 
work the way they used to, either.

Am I talking complete rubbish here, or are others finding similar 
things?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Dan,

The only language I'm aware of that has a difference between single 
and double quotes is PHP, and that's only between what it does with 
strings rather than whether it recognises them as strings or not.  I 
expect there will be some, my preference is single to reduce screen 
clutter.  I'm certainly not aware that SQL makes any distinction.  
The query with single quotes, is producing the correct results (as 
verified against a separate system).

I only do this run once every couple of months so I don't rememebr 
the conversations, but I don't think mailmerge can use a view, can 
it?

Yeah, I've seen what they've done to camelcase.  I've not seen any 
camels with lower case heads... ;-)

I can't imagine that the Fedora repo has caused a problem either.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
If we're not a database, and we're not a mailmerge engine, we're 
running out of functionality... :-s

I've managed to get it doing this non-trivial task without error, so 
I'm fairly pleased.  I haven't got the pinpoint accuracy requirement, 
so I don't know if it's playing me about there.

Really it shouldn't accept case-incorrect fieldnames, so at least 
it's halfway to being good, it's just that that progression broke my 
code :-(

Thanks for the other references too.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks for that Girvin.

In fact my query does have the quotes around field names.
I've included it at the bottom here.

I haven't noticed any difference between  `  (backtick) or either 
usual type of quotation mark either.

I appear to be using the MySQL JDBC driver, com.mysql.jdbc.Driver, 
which *may* be new since I last ran this query, so it might be Java 
causing the problem.

It'll get to the top of my todo list eventually ;-)

Mark Stanton
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SELECT LTRIM( CONCAT( `people`.`Title`, ' ', 
LTRIM( `people`.`Firstname` ), ' ', 
LTRIM( `people`.`Surname` ) ) ) AS `PersonName`,
`people`.`PersonId`, `issues`.`iId` AS `iiID`, `issues`.`Issue`,  
  `people`.`LastIssue`, `subscription`.`iId` AS `subiId`, 
`subscription`.`Type`, `subscription`.`AdType`, 
`subscription`.`Delivery`, `subscription`.`Issues`, 
`subscription`.`StartingAt`, `address`.`Company` AS `Co`,   
`Address1` AS `Address1`, `Address2`, `Address3`, `City`, 
LTRIM( `Area` ) AS `Area`, `Country`, `PostalCode`, 
`sent`.`iId` AS `SendId`, `sent`.`NumberSent`, 
LEFT( `textvalues`.`Text`, 1 ) AS `Text`, 
LastIssue=Issue AND Type=2 AS RenewalDue 
FROM `people` 
JOIN `subscription` ON `people`.`iId` = `subscription`.`iPeopleId` 
JOIN `sent` ON `sent`.`iSubId` = `subscription`.`iId` 
JOIN `issues` ON `sent`.`iIssueId` = `issues`.`iId` 
JOIN `address` ON `people`.`iId` = `address`.`iParentId` 
JOIN `textvalues` ON `textvalues`.`Id` = `subscription`.`Type` 
WHERE `issues`.`Issue` = '74' AND `sent`.`sent` = 0 AND 
`Delivery` = 1 AND `textvalues`.`Field` = 'CBOSUBTYPE' 
ORDER BY `FirstName`, `Surname`



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot access my database file!

2012-08-25 Thread Mark Stanton
I suspect Dan is saying that memory per object needs to be bigger 
than the biggest picture you've got in there.

For future reference, it's not a good idea to store big binary data, 
or, imnvho, any binary data, in database tables, certainly not in the 
hsqldb tables that LO uses as internal.  Store names of files not 
the files themselves.  You can get trouser pockets big enough for 
beach balls, but it's not a great idea.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-31 Thread Mark Stanton
I'm listening very closely.

Your strategy is based on the assumption that consecutive readings 
have consecutive primary keys.  Not even just being in the right 
order, they have to be consecutive integers for your strategy to 
work.  This elevates the primary key from internal workings to 
data.  Your strategy is based on the specific values of those 
numbers.

That's not what table primary keys are intended for in the relational 
database model.

As I said in my previous post, it sort of works, and happens to work 
reliably enough for you in your situation.  That's fine.

You say you're a mathematician.  Does coincidental relationship bear 
mathematical scrutiny as a general strategy in that context?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Stanton
As far as I remember it's explicitly stated in the SQL definitions

Id fields should not contain data entered by users

You can't rely on them not least because often they're automatically 
generated by the system.  They bear no necessary relationship to the 
data.

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, this is, then, quite an interesting idea.

The problem is that you've got nothing reliable in your data to 
relate one date to the next (by the looks of it).  You're only taking 
readings at roughly monthly intervals.

A good, purely SQL, solution to this would be to code a stored 
procedure that is guaranteed to hand out successive numbers, and then 
you can use that to do the arithmetic you've done already.  You'd 
want another table that stores the current value of your counter, and 
your entry data process would get the next number for your next entry 
and update the table.  You could do it by finding the maximum number 
already allocated in your table and add one (or whatever).

If you're prepared to bet the ranch on having one reading every month 
without fail, you could find the lowest date and then generate an 
integer singly increasing index on month's since first date.  That'd 
be two more SQL selections.

The problem with what you've done is that there's no guarantee that 
it'll continue to work.  It probably will, by the looks of it, but 
it's only a fortunate side effect of something that is not 
guaranteed.

In a business environment you'd get fired for something like that, 
and quite rightly!  In an amateur environment, you're getting away 
with it, which might be good enough for you.

The next alternative is pulling the data in date order (yes, I know 
it's almost certainly in date order already, but if you don't make 
sure then you can never enter historical data [you're sure to miss 
entry for some reason some day]), and then run through the table 
doing the sum between last month's data and this month's.

Of course, if you do ever enter data out of order the first strategy 
here won't work, or you'd have to manually reallocate your sequence 
numbers.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Keys are intended for the internal workings of the database, they are 
not meant to be used like this.

What you want is the WHERE clause, or occasionally the HAVING clause, 
matching or excluding rows based on their data.

Keys are NOT data and should not be used as such.

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[libreoffice-users] BASE SQL problem

2012-07-29 Thread Mark Stanton
BASE's pre-processing, of MySQL at least, prevents the perfectly 
legal SQL field specifier


field1 = field2 AS ConditionName

Does it really need to pre-process, or is this more a shortcoming of 
its pre-processing?

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] BASE SQL problem

2012-07-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi!

 It works when you turn off the parser (direct SQL mode) but then you 
 don't have an editable record set anymore.

Ah yes, silly me.  Because it complained that it had to use SQL view I 
assumed it was in SQL mode, it wasn't.

Yes, selecting SQL mode got it to work, but only in a (too) limited 
sense.  It (my stored query) doesn't work when I call it from a Writer 
document.  Worse than that it doesn't work in a silent, partial, sense! 
:-(
Not very happy about that.


 I wish they would drop all the pre-processing and the extremely stupid 
 query designer.

I think it's REALLY important to have tools like this, so less able 
people can use more powerful application.  However, the tools mustn't 
stop the more able from using the application.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] SQL statement in Base query

2012-07-24 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 500ea6e8.4030...@gmail.com, Jay Lozier wrote:
 Actually most users of different backend db will be familiar with the 
 SQL version of that backend. What users need are two things: a connector 
 between Base and the backend and instructions on connecting to that backend.

The problem is, I think, that Base does some pre-processing to check the SQL, 
which 
causes a problem, particularly in this context (non-standard SQL).  Although 
there are 
some helpful points to it are there enough?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Uninstall Anaphraseus (LibO 3.6 on Mac)

2012-07-23 Thread Mark Stanton
Anaphraseus not working?
It *seems* to be working here, but that might be because I'm not sure 
what to expect from it.

I, too, get the complaint on closing a document (which I've reported 
to the author), but it doesn't seem to cause a problem, does it?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] My story

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Stanton
I have to put my hand up to the breakdown here too.
I was (am) hoping to build this connector but pressure of other work 
has got in the way for the moment.

I'll be back...
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Re: [libreoffice-users] IPad?

2012-05-06 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 1336129306.4334.yahoomailclas...@web171003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com, Tom 
Davies wrote:
 Lol, i meant  virtual machine that could run inside iPad so that you
 could run other OSes on your iPad fairly easily.

Another nice idea ( s'pose), but not the one I had in mind ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] IPad?

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 1336081449.9896.yahoomailclas...@web171005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com, Tom 
Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Is there a virtual machine program for iPad?  Does VirtualBox work? 

A virtual iPad?  What a concept.  I love VirtualBox!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] IPad?

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 A virtual iPad?  What a concept.  I love VirtualBox!

Not VirtualBox but

downloads.phpnuke.org/en/download-item-view-y-y-m-x-l-l/VIRTUAL%2BIPAD.htm

claims to be a try before you buy virtual iPad.

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[libreoffice-users] IPad?

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Stanton
Is there a LO for the iPad?

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] launching app from within base

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Stanton
 The topic says it: is there a way to launch and application from with LO
 base?

Could you be a bit more specific please. What type of application, why, to
do with what?  Presumably something to do with Base, but without a bit more
context it's very hard to know where you're wanting to go with this.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-21 Thread Mark Stanton
 Copying the structure and data in one go, as offered by the import 
 wizard, never creates any auto-ID fields.

Would this be a sensible improvement to make?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary

2012-04-20 Thread Mark Stanton
 Wish I could.
 Nary the knowledge or the time.
 Frustration abounds.

I was afraid you were going to say that :-(

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PS Nice talking to someone with a proper reader ;)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-20 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Perrti,

 From this long and very interesting thread and some other 
 discussions on this mailing list too, together with my own recent 
 experiences, there is only one main conclusion to draw:

 There is no real future forLibO's Base module, perhaps not for the 
 whole LibO suite.

I think you make some interesting points, but are too despondent.

Leaving the whole suite aside, I think there is a very real future 
for database use here.  We have the ability to make it the way we 
want it.  The converation *does* point to the idea that the future of 
this probably needs to be rather different from (at least some of) 
the past.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-20 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Ian,

The easy version is :-

1) Open your database with the HSQLDB embedded data.
2) In a separate window, create a new database with any other kind of 
   data engine.
3) Drag the tables from the embedded database to the new database,
   one by one.
4) Drag any other objects from the old database to the new one, too.

I'm guessing that the important bit that you need there is missed 
out, the how to create and link up to A.N.Other database.

Whilst there are several of those, multiplied by the possible access 
methods, and perhaps even the possible operating systems, we ought to 
be able to produce the details for each type.

If I'm right about this, then I'll go on to turn out step-by-step's 
for those.

Would that be the thing that what make it useful?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary

2012-04-19 Thread Mark Stanton
'S a good idea.  Go for it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary

2012-04-19 Thread Mark Stanton
 Replying without quoting *anything* to maintain context is just as dumb 
 as if not dumber than blindly quoting everything...

Sorry, having a proper email client that links replies correctly, I forget 
that not everybody has that.

I was replying to Paul D. Mirowsky's point (offer to develop?) about 
Intermediate free software

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Stanton
I think Andreas' approach for end users is a very good idea.
I think, furthermore, that it starts to redefine how databases can be 
used.  that's a good thing and going dowm that track will, I'm sure, 
lead to further developments.

As such, yes, I think it would be a great idea to push that approach.

I think that as an additional and separate approach, what is thought 
of as Base now *should* be made more accessible and useful so that 
the general populace *can* start to do things with data themselves.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Stanton
  I'm almost thinking of installing something like MySQL and writing my own
  front-end in Java.

I'm sorry if I'm being slow, or not following the conversation properly (lots 
going 
on here at the moment), but, if you're thinking like that, what's wrong with 
Base?
The things you'd need to do, Base does.
The things that approach won't get you, something to present your data, you'd
use Writer/Calc for.

The two problems I've registered (which have a multitude of subsidiaries, I 
know, 
I'm not trying to say Base is great yet, it's clearly not), is that the whole 
thing 
crashes, the answer is use a back end not the embedded system, and the wizards
are cr*p, building your own front end to (eg) MySQL won't help you there.

Andreas' approach of writing queries and setting up Writer documents to use them
does what you want, doesn't it?

Writing documentation for this approach would be a good idea to broadcase these
ideas.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-16 Thread Mark Stanton
What was it you liked about Approach (I used that too)?

I'm asking for feature ideas.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-16 Thread Mark Stanton
 - multiple table query/update support

Multi-tabe query is available, surely?  Where it's not available is in 
file mode when there's no backing database engine.  Or having I missed 
somthing?

Multi-table update support is an SQL limitation, isn't it?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems importing an OO database into LO

2012-04-16 Thread Mark Stanton
 Sorry, I should have been more precise :
 
 Lotus Approach allowed a user to create a form based on a query of a
 collection of DBF tables and then be able to update them via the form

Yes, because Approach had a database engine.  Base doesn't.

If you try to do this through Base with MySQL/MariaDB/PostGres/HQLDB.. 
anything that accesses an external (or, only in the case of the internal 
HSQLDB database, an internal) database *engine* not files, it will work.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to format data entry in base table to UPPERCASE only

2012-04-15 Thread Mark Stanton
 Sure, it does exist. It's called pattern field: 

Ah, there y'go.  Isn't that much better than a macro?
Anyway, I think that's what the op was looking for, though, as always, I could 
be 
wrong.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to format data entry in base table to UPPERCASE only

2012-04-14 Thread Mark Stanton
 In this case a form related macro solution might be simple, I guess.

Indeed, but what the op was hoping for (I think) was input masks, as 
exist in dBase products, where at design time the designer specifies  
the format of what can be input.  So you could define a mask for a 
field like 'XXX XXX' which would force entry of two groups of three 
alphanumerics, only allowing numbers and capital letters.

Handy since what appears on screen when entering data is exactly the 
way it is entered into the data, whereas (I think) the suggested 
solution of making the database field case sensitive achieves the same 
end result but doesn't look the same during entry (does it?)

Having said all of that, it doesn't exist in Base (yet :-) ).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to format data entry in base table to UPPERCASE only

2012-04-13 Thread Mark Stanton
Which is also to say that the input filters you're expecting don't 
exist in Base.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Base} Compare contents of similar records on two sheets

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Stanton
Both of these will be easy to do as a query in Base, although the 
first is a little tedious, provided that you can get both tables into 
the same database.

Something along the lines of

SELECT * FROM MasterTable
JOIN MonthlyUpdateTable ON Master.IdField = Month.IdField
WHERE   Master.Column1  Monthly.Column1
OR  Master.Column2  Monthly.Column2
OR ... (The rest of the fields)

If you can't get both into the same database, don't use the embedded 
database (though you wouldn't anyway, would you? ;-) ), And bring 
them into separate databases and then perform that SQL using the data 
engine itself, ie not through Base, even if you use Base to get the 
data there in the first place.

For any database worth its salt 2000 records is tiny.

For records in one but not in the other

SELECT * FROM One version
WHERE IdField NOT IN (SELECT IdField FROM Otherversion)

And then do it the other way around.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: 'Open' Standards dependant on a single company?

2012-04-01 Thread Mark Stanton
 I don't suppose you would be willing to copy your answer to this list
 or the marketing list or perhaps to Ian?

I answered online, so I don't have a handy document, or even any document :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] XML as mailmerge data source?

2012-03-31 Thread Mark Stanton
 and yes, Google claims to have found more than 65,000 results ;)

Yes, as I said, I've been looking, and I found lots of results, but

 But bottom-line will be, convert the XML to CSV or Excel or  ;)

You seem to agree with me that, no, there isn't a way.

Since XML is a wau of structuring data, just like a database is, then this 
seems to be a glaring omission, so glaring I couldn't believe it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: 'Open' Standards dependant on a single company?

2012-03-31 Thread Mark Stanton
It mentions not getting locked in to one vendor several times.  It 
seems to me that this is the point that needs to be used, repeatedly, 
to avoid, errr, getting locked in to one vendor.

I've responded to the first two chapters, at which point I started to 
gibber and couldn't carry on any further :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] XML as mailmerge data source?

2012-03-31 Thread Mark Stanton
That's a sufficiently good-English explanation.

I've got a very simple XML file that I'd like to use, which is why I 
hadn't thought about the wider issue.

Just need to be a database engine that uses XML files... And package 
it with Base... :-s

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Conditions

2012-03-21 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Dan,

Thanks for the very detailed thoughts.  There's some really 
interesting stuff there.  I'll have a bit of a play when I've got 
some time.  At the moment it works, which is enough until I come to 
vary it a little :-)

I don't use HSQLDB, don't like it, sorry.  I use MySQL.  I created 
the database and the tables using pnpMyAdmin.  However, since I don't 
(yet) know how the internals of Base work, I don't know if that's 
important or not.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Conditions

2012-03-20 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Dan  Jean-Francois,

Got to use double quotes?  Whose idea was that? :-S  Mutter mutter 
mutter, yup that works :-(

All working now!  We'll find out how good it is next week when it 
gets used in the production run! :-)

Thanks again
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Urgent Base problem

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Stanton
 I think the point Mark was making was to switch away from using the
 embedded back-end to pretty much any external one.  Which is what
 you often suggest too.  

Yes indeed.
Can HSQLDB be used as an external engine?  I thought not, which is why I didn't 
include it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Urgent Base problem (stability in long term use)

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Stanton
The problem with using dbf files is that you no longer have a 
relational database.  Because Base is then dealing with files not a 
database engine it will only use one file at a time and will not 
relate them.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] More mailmerge woes

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Stanton
Herr Säger, you may have hit the nail on the head, thank you.

Yes, even though my query was correctly displayed as the driving data 
for the document (of course, since I'm using mailmerge, this is a 
Writer document that has the problem), when I went through the 
Change datasource dialogue/wizard, it showed a different database 
as the source, weird!

And that is a *fabulous* feature in Writer, just dragging the column 
onto the page, fabulous.

However, there was still one problem remaining which I have fixed by 
changing the field name Company to Co.
Whether I allowed MySQL to produce the fieldname or explicitly 
speciifed it with an alias, Base would insert the field as company 
(lowercase first letter), and it would therefore display the 
fieldname not the field contents, because the query wasn't producing 
a field with that name!  Company is a reserved word somehow?  
Surely not!

Many thanx
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