Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer doc not going back to where I exited

2022-12-16 Thread RealNameTBA
+1

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 9:06 PM, Chuck Stuettgen  wrote:

> I hope so too.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:58 PM MR ZenWiz  wrote:
>
>> I have an open bug on this that has been promised a fix in 7.5.0.
>>
>> I hope they make good on that.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:46 PM Chuck Stuettgen 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The cursor not returning to a document's last edited location still
>> occurs
>> > in Libreoffice version 7.3.7 which is included in the Ubuntu release
>> 22.04
>> > and Linux Mint 21.
>> >
>> > I uninstalled version 7.3.7 provided by Linux Mint, then downloaded and
>> > installed version 7.4.3.2 directly from the LibreOffice Downloads site.
>> >
>> > After installing version 7.4.3.2 some documents would open at the correct
>> > last edited location and others would still open at a random location.
>> >
>> > I finally eliminated the problem by uninstalling 7.4.3.2 and installing
>> > version 7.0.6.2. Every document I tried would reopen properly at the
>> last
>> > edited location.
>> >
>> > I am going stick with version 7.0.6.2 until the issue is resolved once
>> and
>> > for all on the latest releases.
>> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] hyphenation

2022-12-16 Thread RealNameTBA
said aguador:
| El vie, 16-12-2022 a las 01:17 +, W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.
|
| escribió:
| > My assumption is that Chris is looking for help on when to hyphenate
| > compound adjectives (like 'the red-brown dog' but 'the big brown
| > dog'), similar to how LO has rules about when to hyphenate words at
| > the ends of lines. Hyphenation of compound adjectives involves a lot
| > of judgment and personal taste. As far as I know, there's nothing
| > about it in LO.
| > - Robert
| > 
|
| This does not affect just adjectives, but some nouns -- and evolves
| over time, such that the phrasal verb "follow up" is hyphenated as
| adjective ("follow-up report"), but appears either hyphenated or as one
| word (followup) when used as a noun. The trend in the latter case,
| AFAIK, is to make the noun a single word -- or maybe it is just my
| personal taste.
|
| Even the LanguageTool plugin provides only limited help. Testing with:
|
| "I would like you to followup on this issue. The follow-up should be
| complete and presented in the form of a follow up report."
|
| LanguageTool highlighted the hyphenated form and reported: "When
| ‘follow-up’ is used as a noun or modifier, it needs to be hyphenated."
| It also reported the instance without a hyphen noting: "‘follow up’
| seems to be a compound adjective before a noun. Use a hyphen: «follow-
| up»." However, it did not flag the single-word form used as a verb.
|
| The other positive in this example is that LanguageTool notes that
| "follow up" should be hyphenated before a noun. Predicate adjectives
| are excluded: "He is a well-known author." "The author is well known."
|
| The problem in implementing this is we can expect not only temporal,
| positional and personal variation, but dialectical as well with, in my
| experience, en_GB being more conservative (although the case cited
| above with LanguageTool was for en_US).
|
| All of this makes the implementation of such help a minefield
| (something I am sure was once a "mine field")!
|
| In short, using LanguageTool or even adding examples to a dictionary is
| not foolproof and you must be prepared to reject some "corrections" and
| accept that some errors will be missed.

It comes down, really, to there being no substitute for learning how to
write. Software can do some things, but it cannot read your mind. Which is
a feature, not a bug.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Threading [was: Header beginning on page 2?]

2022-11-29 Thread RealNameTBA
Truly don't know. It's never been an issue. And for a long time now replyto: 
has had issues such that I considered its use to be bad practice -- indeed, it 
screws up many mailing lists. (For example, this is the one list I'm on that 
seems to reply to both the original poster and to the list, resulting in 
duplicates. There may be sound reasons for this, but elsewhere it's been seen 
as a misconfiguration and has been eradicated almost immediately.) Not 
complaining, just explaining why my mailer is configured as it is.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:51 PM, John Kaufmann  wrote:

> Dear RealNameTBA-as an aside to questions about LO operation: One can't help 
> notice that none of your posts are threaded (because of the absence of 
> In-reply-to and References headers). Does ProtonMail not support (a) 
> Reply-to-List and (b) threading generally?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Header beginning on page 2?

2022-11-29 Thread RealNameTBA
said Remy Gauthier:
| Greetings,
|
| You can start on the second page by editing the default page style if
| your document has consistent page setup. You can do this with Format >
| Page Style... From there, go on the Footer tab, and select Footer ON (or
| Header/Header ON if you want to place the page number on the header) and
| deselect the "Same content on first page".  Hit OK. You will now have
| the ability to insert the page number on the second page of your
| document.  To insert the page number, go to the footer of the second
| page (once you have a second page) and use Insert > Page Number. If you
| want to have this number to be 1 (it will come in as 2 since it will be
| on the second page), you will need to use Insert > Field > More Fields.
| Once the panel is up, select the Document tab, then the Type "Page
| number (unstyled)", Select "Page number", and Format "As Page Style".
| Then put -1 in the Offset box and press Insert.

Thanks very much. While I stumbled and hicuped a bit, the first page /
default page distinction got me through. I do wish more of this were
organized more intuitively -- a RMB selector in the header space, for
instance -- but now at least I seem to have a recipe that works. Thanks
again.


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[libreoffice-users] Header beginning on page 2?

2022-11-29 Thread RealNameTBA
Greetings again.

I'm putting together a document which requires page numbers, but in keeping
with the majority of documents the numbers should begin on page 2. I've
looked but found no way to do headers beginning on page 2. Is there one?
If so, how might I invoke it?

(Ideally, there would be a check box, "begins on page 2," but I do
sometimes think that LibreOffice developers, given the choice of ease of
use and tremendous complication, pretty much always choose the latter.)

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer -- SOLVED partially

2022-11-29 Thread RealNameTBA
said Michael H:

| However, I've had similar wrapping issues in LibreOffice 6.3 with
| material I generate automatically when I set hyphenation to OFF, then
| turn every space into a no-break space. I don't see how that could
| happen while 'typing' but I have seen the issue, and you fix it by
| allowing breakpoints. That is turn hyphenation back on, and put in
| normal spaces.

Thanks very much. I've pretty well figured out that the problem here was
when L.O. Writer decided to label paragraphs as being in Japanese (even
though they contained no Japanese kana or kanji characters and most of
them didn't even contain romaji). And if I manually return the paragraphs
to English (USA) the line breaks become sane once again.

What I have not figured out is a.) why this happened -- if someone were,
say, to insert an English word into a document of Japanese Kana, would
L.O. Writer decide the whole document is English? -- and b.) how to
prevent it happening again.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-28 Thread RealNameTBA
The more I poke around, it seems as if the issue is related to this:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=1035

Which is labeled as fixed, but what to do to make it work isn't specified.
I need to figure out where to force it to "English (USA)" everywhere -- as
I look, the offending documents are all shown as being in Japanese, even
though they aren't. I occasionally paste in a Japanese character or word,
though this does not seem necessary to trigger the change to Japanese --
it sometimes happens in documents that have nothing to do with Japanese.
And never have I specifically told Writer I was doing Japanese.

So, is there a place where I can tell it not to do me this particular
favor?

TIA.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-28 Thread RealNameTBA
said John Kaufmann:
| On 2022-11-27 18:45, RealNameTBA wrote:
| > ... [The problem is] this (as illustrated in the small attached
| > screenshot fragment): ...
|
| The first thing to be noted is that by now you are aware that the
attachment did not make it to this list. Sorry, that's just the state of
things, so it's necessary to be as descriptive as possible. To that end:
| > ... at the end of a line the writing jumps to the next line, not
| > hyphenating anything (which is fine) but just simply splitting words
| > in the middle. ...
|
| A little more descriptive: Is the splitting done such that the right
| ends of the line are aligned (or would be aligned with a monospace
| font), as if to put the same number of characters in each line?

No, it's not justified. But where a line runs out and the whole word jumps
to the next line, here it breaks in the middle of the word, no hyphen (and
I have hyphenation turned off) leaving as little as a single letter before
going to the next line. I do notice now that the offending documents seem
to believe they're Japanese, which they're not.

In the screenshot paragraph I sent, the word "what" is divided at
w, "surrender" at surre, "brave" at bra, "involuntarily" at involuntaril
(with only the y bumped to the next line), "there" at th, and "story" at
st. Very weird. Is there a way to assure that the application does not
take it upon itself to change countries?

| Saving the file as .ODT?  If not, in what format?  In what did you open
| it, that presented properly?

Created in LibreOffice Writer and saved as .doc. Opens and siaplays fine in
TextMaker, AbiWord, and Calligra, no issues.

Thanks for your help.



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[libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-27 Thread RealNameTBA
Having poked at this issue for days and being no closer to a solution, I
turn to those on this list. I am doing battle with a line-wrap problem
that defies all attempts to correct it. It's this (as illustrated in the
small attached screenshot fragment): at the end of a line the writing
jumps to the next line, not hyphenating anything (which is fine) but just
simply splitting words in the middle. It was not always thus.

I can't help but think that at some point I must have accidentally clicked
on some configuration option that caused this to happen, but that option
is not apparent to me.

If I save the file and open it in something else, the words are wrapped
normally, leading me to think it's a view or display issue.

Anybody know how I can fix this?

I'm running 7.3.7.2 / LibreOffice Community atop the TDE desktop on Ubuntu
20.04. But the problem has been around for a while.

Thanks in advance.

RNtba



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