Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Draw and Writer

[jomali]

Open the jpeg in Google Photos and use its OCR capabilities to produce a
text file which you can then edit in Writer.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 4:36 AM Kenneth Groninga <
winema...@eaglecitywinery.com> wrote:

> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Kenneth Groninga 
> Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 1:25 PM
> Subject: Draw and Writer
> To: 
>
>
> I am still having a problem.  I scan a document as jpeg or pdf and save it
> in documents. When I try to open the document in Writer to edit it , it
> open in Draw and I can not edit it.  How do I solve this problem? If I copy
> and paste the document the resulting document is much darker. I have never
> had theis problem before with my computer.
>
> Kenneth Groninga
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with find & replace.

[jomali]

I just looked at LibreOffice help, searched for Regular Expressions,
selected the list of regular expressions, and found all of the info you are
looking for..

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dave Barton  wrote:

>
> Fantastic, but why does the LO project *_NOT_* inform it's users about
> this *_HIDDEN_* option?
>
> Please provide links to the the TDF/LO Help/Documentation files that
> provide this information to our users.
>
>  Original Message 
> From: Michael D. Setzer II [mailto:msetze...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 20:53 UTC
> To: Dave Barton; users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Help with find & replace.
>
> > On 16 Mar 2022 at 20:41, Dave Barton wrote:
> >
> > Subject:  Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with find &
> > replace.
> > To:   users@global.libreoffice.org
> > From: Dave Barton 
> > Date sent:Wed, 16 Mar 2022 20:41:43 +
> >
> >> On 16/03/2022 20:01, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 17/03/2022 08:34, Dave Barton wrote:
>  On 16/03/2022 18:27, Brian Barker wrote:
> > At 16:29 16/03/2022 +, Dave Barton wrote:
> >> I am looking for a find & replace solution in Writer, where there
> is a
> >> blank space as the last character of a paragraph (eg. last word
> >> ). In the original OOo and most of the text editors I
> >> use the simple solution that worked/works perfectly is: Find =
> >> $ Replace = $ (Note: I use  here to represent a single
> >> space character). This does not work in LO Writer, so I am forced to
> >> fiddle around copying from LO and pasting into AOO, running F in
> >> AOO, then copy/paste back again. Any pointers would be welcome.
> > I'm surprised that exactly what you say works in OpenOffice. Don't
> you
> > need to find space-dollar, just as you describe, but to replace with
> > nothing? Replacing with dollar will surely insert an unwanted dollar
> > character?
> >
> > Or have you forgotten to click "Other options" in the Find and
> Replace
> > dialogue and to tick "Regular expressions"?
> >
> > I trust this helps.
> >
> > Brian Barker
>  Hi Brian,
> 
>  After 22 Years of you and I being involved in this project, I
> genuinely
>  bow to your superior knowledge in this area. However, I do assure you
>  that the convoluted LO->AOO->LO� nonsense works for me, exactly as it
>  did in the days of OOo.
> 
>  No, I have not forgotten to click "Other options in the Find and
> Replace
>  dialogue and to tick "Regular expressions", please see my screen
> capture:
>  https://www.mediafire.com/view/80552jkp3qw6o8x/F%2526R_LO.png/file
> 
>  Here is a very simplistic file illustrating the 
>  paragraph endings:
>  https://www.mediafire.com/file/vmixa9r4dhjpc9e/F%2526R_LO.odt/file
> 
>  Version: 7.3.1.3 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
>  Build ID: a69ca51ded25f3eefd52d7bf9a5fad8c90b87951
>  CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: default; VCL:
>  win
>  Locale: es-ES (en_IE); UI: en-US
>  Calc: threaded
> 
>  If you can please show me where I am going wrong, I would be extremely
>  grateful.
> 
>  Dave Barton
> 
> 
> >>> May be this is sorted and I have received the emails out of order, but
> >>> assuming you just want to remove the trailing space from each line,
> both
> >>> Johnny's and Michael's methods work for me on your sample file.
> >>>
> >>> Find= [:space:]{1,}$
> >>> Replace= empty
> >>>
> >>> Find= $
> >>> Replace= empty
> >>>
> >>> Use regular expression= checked
> >>> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Steve, but no it's NOT sorted.
> >>
> >> You have "Kinda" given me 1/2 a clue.
> >>
> >> What does {.1.} mean?
> >
> file:///opt/libreoffice7.3/help/en-US/text/shared/01/0211.html?=WRITER
> >
> > {N}
> >
> > The post-fix repetition operator that specifies an exact
> > number of occurrences ("N") of the regular expression
> > term immediately preceding it must be present for a
> > match to occur. For example, "tre{2}" matches "tree".
> >
> > {N,M}
> >  The post-fix repetition operator that specifies a range
> > (minimum of "N" to a maximum of "M") of occurrences of
> > the regular expression term immediately preceding it
> > that can be present for a match to occur. For example,
> > "tre{1,2}" matches "tre" and "tree".
> >
> > {N,}
> >
> > The post-fix repetition operator that specifies a range
> > (minimum "N" to an unspecified maximum) of
> > occurrences of the regular expression term immediately
> > preceding it that can be present for a match to occur.
> > (The maximum number of occurrences is limited only by
> > the size of the document). For example, "tre{2,}"
> > matches "tree", "treee", and "tre".
> >
> > So, [:space:]{1,}$ matches one or more spaces at end of
> > line.
> > {1,}$ does the same with  actually
> > being a single space.
> >>
> 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress Remote

[jomali]

If you click the links at the bottom of the guide page, you will  go right
to the "LibreOffice Impress Remote" page on the Google Play Store or
"LibreOffice Remote for Impress" page for iOS.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:56 PM John Kaufmann  wrote:

> Since the latest update, I have left on "Show tips on startup" for the
> "Tip of the day".  Today's was about Impress Remote.  I was not aware of
> it, so looked at the link <
> https://help.libreoffice.org/6.0/he/text/simpress/guide/impress_remote.html>,
> which says:
>
> > "Download Impress Remote from the Google Play Store or the Apple Store
> by searching for “Impress Remote” in the search box. Be sure that the
> results bring Impress Remote from The Document Foundation (TDF)."
> So I tried for my iPhone, but nothing: nothing from "Impress Remote”,
> nothing from "The Document Foundation”.  Anyone tried this?
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Word counting in LO Writer

[jomali]

A simple experiment shows that LO writer considers a new word to have begun
when any character occurs after a whitespace character. Do you disagree
with this algorithm? I certainly don't. It's straightforward, easy to
understand and unambiguous.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 3:36 PM Dave Howorth  wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 20:57:55 +0100
> Krunose  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > is it ok for LO to find five words in 'This is < a word.' as
>
> I'd have thought the answer was either 4 or 6 depending on whether you
> ignore '<' or pronounce 'less than'. :)
>
> > https://www.countofwords.com/
> >
> > finds only four. Don't know how that reflects on this like 'This is 4
> > words' and not sur so on. It's hard to anticipate every possible
> > variant
> > - is that the reason?
> >
> > Is there more information about this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kruno
> >
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO

[jomali]

I don't remember the details of the sxw format. Perhaps reveal codes were
appropriate then. However, ODF files have a complex SGML or HTML or XML
type format, along with a form of CSS, unlike WordPerfect and similar
programs, which used embedded code to delineate format changes. That is,
there are no format codes to reveal in ODF documents. Any program that
pretended  to show some kind of "format code" would be hopelessly
misleading.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 2:01 AM Uwe Brauer  wrote:

> Hi
>
> >From time to time the question pops up whether LO could support
> Wordperfects reveal code. The developer are not too keen, and sometimes
> it is stated that this feature could be implemented by a
> macro/extension.
>
> Now I remember that long time ago such macros existed and using the
> wayback machine I found them. They were written around 2005 for OO 1.2,
> using the sxw format.
>
> I tried them out in LO 6.2 and they don't work.
>
> Is there somebody with enough knownledge in macros to translate those
> macros to LO 6.2?
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Uwe Brauer
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't prevent Calc from modifying the number I type into a column

[jomali]

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how spreadsheets work.
When you enter a number into a numeric cell, the software converts it into
an internal format, which it then displays in the format you specify for
the cell. It does not remember the form in which you entered it. Thus,
127.700 and 127.7 are the same number.

If you really want to remember the input format, change the format of the
cells in the input column (or row) to text before you enter the data. The
result will be a textual representation of the number. You can then search
for the "number" in the input format.

 To perform calculations on those numbers, you would then create another
column (or row) containing the formula "=value(input cell)" and do the
calculations on the resulting values.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:36 AM Art  wrote:

> I have a column of numbers I want to enter into a calc column.
>
> One of the numbers is 127.700 (for instance).
>
> So, I copy the number and paste it into the desired column. But, when I
> go back and check the contents of the column, it reads 127.7 instead!!!
>
> And, if I search the spreadsheet for 127.700, there are no hits
>
> I tried formatting the column to show 3 significant numbers after the
> decimal point, which looks goodbut when I check the actual contents
> of that cell, it is still 127.7!!! And, I still can't search for 127.700
> (no hits)!
>
> I tried turning off the autocomplete, no change.
>
> It seems like calc has some sort of deliberate action to inhibit
> entering of trailing zero's (after the decimal point).
>
> How do I turn off this "feature"???
>
> When I copy and paste 117.000 into a cell, I expect to see 117.000 when
> I examine the contents of the cell. I actually don't have a problem with
> how the number is displayed in the spreadsheet, but when I search for
> the number I entered into the column, I need to get hits on 117.000 when
> I search for 117.000.
>
> TY
>
> Art
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[jomali]

I just did exactly what you described, using a document in a text editor
and LO 6.0.1.1 on a Mac, and the copy-paste from the text editor to LO
worked perfectly. The second text selected was the text pasted the second
time. I can only conclude that there is something wrong with your personal
setup.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:

> On 2018/05/12 2:11, Brian Barker wrote:
>
>> At 20:04 10/05/2018 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Problem: Select a text portion in one application -> move to Writer ->
>>> Ctrl+V (paste).
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, most likely my explanation was not good enough.
> So, I will try it again. My home computer is now on 6.0.4 - which did NOT
> improve things.
> (if anything, the apparent lack of scaling capability for the interface
> font makes work only harder)
>
> Use any piece of text: let's use A = help / B = rescue
> * Suppose now I have a text editor open and select "A" on the editor
> screen and press Ctrl+C (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * switch to Writer
> * press Ctrl+V (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * I get "A"
> So far so good.
> * Next I select a different word, like B and perform the same procedure.
> * Having done this a trillion times on "countless" computers using equally
> "countless" different applications ->
> * I DO expect to get "B" in Writer.
> * However, Writer insists on copying "A". It does not matter how many
> times I repeat the procedure.
> * This morning it even continued to insist in copying "A" instead of "B"
> AFTER I shut Writer down and reopened it.
> * When I use the "Ctrl+C" + "Ctrl+V" routine to copy either "A" or "B"
> into software OTHER than Libreoffice, it works as expected.
>
> I am definitely NOT a computer expert, but I believe I can perform a "copy
> and paste" action.
> In particular when I do this deliberately and with great care.
> One might argue, that "A" is still on the (Windows) clipboard.
> But if that were true, copying it to other applications should also give
> me an "A", but I actually get the requested "B".
>
> For that reason I cannot help but assume, that there is something strange
> going on in Writer.
> While working in Writer I use Calc in parallel to create a list of term
> and their translations.
> Copying either A or B from other applications into Cals DOES NOT give me
> this grief. (at least not yet)
> This is a recent event and I don't thing I have had this problem with the
> computer in my little clinic.
> Even though this may not be any sort of "fatal error", it is nonetheless
> very annoying during work.
>
> Is this explanation a little better?
> Thomas
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fontworks, how to change font

[jomali]

I just tried Dave's method, and it worked flawlessly (LO 5.2.6.2 on Mac
OSX).

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Edmonds 
wrote:

>
>
> On 09/06/17 00:01, Dave wrote:
>
>> On 08.06.2017 12:41, Steve Edmonds wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> Trying to imitate a layout from MS word (words around a circle) in
>>> writer.
>>>
>>> I can enter the words, get the shape, colour, etc. but in writer can't
>>> change the font.
>>> If I do the same in draw the properties side bar has Character where I
>>> can change the font.
>>> In writer the sidebar does not have Character.
>>> LO 5.1.4.2
>>> Am I missing something, help appreciated.
>>> Steve
>>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Double click on the Fontworks object to access the underlying text.
>> Select/highlight (eg. Shift + Home keys) the displayed text and choose
>> the required font from the style drop-down or that sidebar thing.
>> Click  outside of the Fontworks object to finish.
>> Note: Fontworks is converting normal fonts into vector shapes, so some
>> results may not always be pleasing.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Dave
>>
> Thanks Dave, but that didn't work. The highlighted text changes (and stays
> changed) but the changes don't go show in the fontwork text. LO 5.1 and
> 5.2, OSX, Win and Linux.
> steve
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Strange line spacing

[jomali]

Sorry for top posting, but I didn't have a reply to the post, except to say
that I tried to reproduce your problem on LO 5.2.2.2 on MacOS and couldn't
get the behavior you describe using any combination of order of entering
and formatting characters. Perhaps if you describe your sequence of steps
to get the problem, someone could help.

By the way, this shows how typewriter thinking still pervades the word
processing world. The preferable way of working is to enter your text
first, then format it to look the way you want, instead of formatting along
the way. (No flames, please. Of course, there are exceptions.)


On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 5:35 AM, James Wilde 
wrote:

> Thanks, Remi, for taking the time to answer.
>
> It is definitely a font problem, but not of the nature you hypothesized.
> We
> managed to get her document finished by the simple expedient of inserting
> one letter on the blank lines before making the second carriage return - or
> whatever it is called in the post-typewriter age.  We could then remove
> these extra letters when the document was finished without losing the
> single
> line spacing she wanted.
>
> I have now experimented on a copy of her file.  She is, btw, using version
> 5.2.2.2.
>
> Near the start of her document, after the title, she had written the letter
> 'A' (to indicate the first section of the exam) and increased the size of
> this from 12 pt to 26 pt.  She had then continued with explanatory text in
> 12 pt text on the same line and the following one.  When she then did her
> two carriage returns, the first one placed her one standard line down, the
> second one gave her a huge line space, which I suspect is the line spacing
> she would get with 26 pt text.  It looked like this (I'll use underscores
> to
> show the 26 pt letter).
>
> _A_ Instructions on what to do in the exam which wrapped over onto a second
> line which I'm trying desperately to make this example show.
> (first line would appear 12 pt below the word 'show')
>
> (Second line would appear 26 pt below the first line)
>
> (All subsequent text shows the same problem)
>
> I found that, if I changed the size of this initial letter to 12 pt, the
> problem went away.  If I reinstated the 26 pt letter, it returned.  Moving
> the letter 'A' to its own line did not affect the situation, that is to say
> when I went to the end of the explanatory paragraph, I still got  26 pt
> line
> spacing, even if I had changed the font size to 12 pt after the letter 'A'
> but on the same line.
>
> So problem is explained, if not solved.  It seems as though the document
> has
> somehow absorbed the fact that this paragraph started with a letter in 26pt
> and starts all subsequent paragraphs the same way.  The style was Standard.
>
> If anyone has anything to add, I'd very much appreciate it.  My wife was
> hopping mad last night and threatening to buy Microsoft Office, but had
> calmed down a bit today, and I hope I'll be able to keep her on LibreOffice
> after my explanation.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Website security and encryption

[jomali]

That's odd. When I log on to Libreoffice.com, I use (e.g)
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/, which is, of
course, encrypted.

On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Eric Scherer 
wrote:

> I'm amazed and surprised none of your webpages -- including the downloads
> -- are via secure/encrypted connections ("https://; or otherwise).
>
> There's absolutely no reason ANY website should be doing this.
>
> I refuse any site, not to mention download anything from them, if
> connections aren't secure and encrypted.
>
> BIG oversight on your behalf.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] about libreoffice and tables:

[jomali]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:38 PM, nasrin khaksar 
wrote:

> hi.
> because docx is compress format and needs less space.
> for this reason, they send me all documents in docx format.
>



> So have them save as doc format and zip them, sending you the zip file!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] about libreoffice and tables:

[jomali]

Since you have contact with the originator of the document, and he/she sent
you a modified document, why don't you ask them to send you the document in
.doc format? It should open flawlessly.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:56 AM, nasrin khaksar 
wrote:

> hi every one.
> one person gave me a very important .docx documents and i wanted to
> open it with libreoffice 4.4.6
> when i press enter on my document, unfortunately libreoffice
> immediately crashed and said the message about crash with unexpected
> error and tried to recovered it.
> but unfortunately after recovery, imediately again and again crashed!
> i tested with libreoffice 4.3.5, 4.3.7 and 4.4.6 and its crash in all
> versions 4.3 and 4.4 i think!
> i tested with version 5.0.5.2 and i did not observe any crash!
> but for many reasons the version 4.3.5.2 is the best version for me
> and i prefer to only use this version.
> i called that personed and mentioned this issue.
> he replyed: its maybe of the table which is on the last page of document.
> maybe your program is not compatible with tables.
> he removed the table and i could open it with my favorite version
> without any problem.
> can you please help me whats the problem in this regard and why
> libreoffice my favorite version faced crash in the time of openning my
> very valuable document?
> any help is appreciated and i ask god devine mercy and blessings for you.
>
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> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Double Underline in Calc

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Jim Byrnes  wrote:

> Using LO vers 4.2.8.2 on Ubuntu 14.04
>
> If I go Format Cells--> Line Styles --> double underline all I see in the
> cells I am trying to format is a thick dark line.
>
> Is there a way to fix this?
>
> Regards,  Jim
>
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Using 5.0.5.2 on OS X El Capitan, I see this only when the focus is on the
cell. When I move the focus to another cell, the double underline appears.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] anyone knows how to find/replace not-printable glyphs?

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On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016, Remy Gauthier wrote:
>
> If you need to search and replace paragraph marks and others, you can
>> use AltSearch (http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/alter
>> native-dialog-find-replace-for-writer). If have it installed on LO5.1
>> and it works fine. You look for two end of paragraph characters (select
>> from the drop-down or type in \p\p)
>> and replace with just one; repeat until there no more replacements.
>> Cheers!
>> Rémy Gauthier.
>>
>
> I wonder about simply using search/replace and remove all end of paragraph
> marks ('\n\), replacing them with a mark of one's own like '#' (as long as
> it doesn't occur elsewhere in the text); then remove all consecutive "##'
> and replace with '\r' or '\r\r'?
>
> f.
>
> This won't work because there are no end of paragraph marks ("\n"). The
Open Document format is a form of XML, in which paragraphs are denoted by
[Content].

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: question about the best version of libreoffice - MY God is better!

[jomali]

Please note that the original message by Nasrin was on a topic germane to
this list. One member with an excessively tender sore spot objected to
something in Nasrin's signature that expressed his sincerely held faith.
There was no intent on Nasrin's part to proselytize or to demean another's
faith, as Phil's diatribe does.

In my opinion, Nasrin has a perfect right to express his personal beliefs
anywhere he chooses, including on this list, if it is not the subject of
the post.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

> Nasrin (and others),
>
>
> On 2016-01-21 21:38, nasrin khaksar wrote:
>
>> hi every one.
>> i thank you for your time and answering my question.
>> i was waiting to see all comments and after that reply them.
>> i recieved my answer from tom and also i i appreciate him specially.
>>
>> On 1/21/16, Andreas Säger  wrote:
>>
>>> Am 21.01.2016 um 01:42 schrieb Tom Davies:
>>>
 Hi :)
 Many people on this mailing list have had signatures that include
 Bible quotes or such-like without anyone grumbling or anything.  I
 thought it was nice to see something similar from a different religion
 for a change.

 Regards from
 Tom :)

>>>
>>> And I tend to ignore all of them instinctively. I would not have
>>> answered this topic if I had noticed that sermon.
>>> Interesting how the least relevant null topics trigger the most
>>> extensive discussions on this list. Trolls at work.
>>>
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>> O people! there has come to you indeed an admonition from your Lord
>> and a healing for what is in the breasts and a guidance and a mercy
>> for the believers.
>> Say: In the grace of Allah and in His mercy-- in that they should
>> rejoice; it is better than that which they gather.
>> holy quran, chapter 10.
>>
>> please visit al-islam.org
>>
>
>
> Since it appears that it is OK to proselytise on this list I will tell you
> about MY God - who is better than your gods (since your gods don't really
> exist):
>
> MY God is Jibbers Crabst and was revealed to the world in a great sermon
> by the Muchly High Priest and First Prophet, Matt Inman:
>
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ_BtZ-5O60
>
> Jibbers is a fire-breathing lobster who lives behind the rings of Saturn.
> Jibbers is THE ONE TRUE GOD and replaces all previous false gods.  Everyone
> who is believer in other false gods should immediately repent of their
> mistaken beliefs and adore and commit their lives to Jibbers - our Lord and
> Saviour.
>
> The Yankee People are the chosen people of Jibbers (see the sermon for
> details - I am Australian BTW but that does not affect my belief in Jibbers
> as the ONE TRUE GOD) and will dwell forever in The House of Jibbers.
>
> If you do not see the light and immediately switch your belief from your
> false gods to Jibbers, the soldiers and children of Jibbers, giant
> Bombardier Beetles, will rise up and send flaming balls down all of your
> unbelieving throats for the rest of eternity!  After that eternity, giant
> Brazilian Wandering Spiders will inject you all with venom that will cause
> more pain than is imaginable for another eternity!
>
> So Nasrin, and others, repent of your erroneous faiths and before it is
> too late, pledge your lives to the ONE TRUE GOD - Jibbers Crabst! and be
> saved from eternal pain and damnation!  and live with Jibbers forever
> around the most beautiful planet in the Solar system!
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> Phil.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Vertical Ruler

[jomali]

Works fine for me (LO 5.0.3.2 on OS X El Capitan)

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Joe Conner  wrote:

> Thanks for your speedy reply.
>
> Unfortunately, the check box at Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Writer ->
> View: panel; check-box for "Vertical ruler" and combo box for units seems
> to have no effect.
>
> I have no vertical rulers whether or not the check box is checked. I
> suspect this is a regression bug.
>
> Thanks again.
> Joe
>
> On 01/16/2016 12:24 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>
>> @Joe, *
>>
>> Not lost, just set to not show by design.
>>
>> Simple to activate if you prefer.
>>
>> Writer: Tools -> Options ->  LibreOffice Writer -> View:  panel;
>> check-box
>> for "Vertical ruler" and combo box for units.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com

[jomali]

When I click the link in either Chrome or Firefox, I go to a Libreoffice
5.0 review dated August 17, 2015.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk
wrote:

 On 19/08/15 12:07, James Knott wrote:

 On 08/18/2015 04:24 PM, zed wrote:

 James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

 I just came across this article.



 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418419,00.asp?mailing_id=1431647mailing=whatsnewnowmailingID=E2768DCC83E0602F9C1DB70A73032992


 The review seems to be of LibreOfice v4.0.  So, a little out of date :-)

 David


 Someone else, possibly from Australia also saw 4.0, whereas I see 5.0.
 I guess that's what happens when you're upside down.  ;-)


 Well, it looks like a 4.0 review to me. Firefox gives page info as
 published time: 2013-05-01T16:57:00+00:00
 and the page says Version 4.0, recently released, looks a lot like the
 long-running 3.x series, but 

 I'm definitely in the northern hemisphere, unless continental drift has
 increased :-)


 I wish these guys would date their reviews!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] No releases of my extension on the LO extension site

[jomali]

Save it as Flat XML ODF document (Text or other). You will get an unzipped
XML document that will open in LibreOffice like a zipped file, but can be
opened in a text editor to view or edit the contents.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:02 AM, X Roemer x-roe...@web.de wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm the author of the Writer extension Organon for LO/OO. I tried to keep
 it up to date on the LO extensions site, but compared to OO's extensions
 site and its mechanism, I found it really hard to manage it for LO. I
 think, LO's mechanism is a bit overwhelming.

 The releases of my extension are disappearing every once in a while and I
 can't see any reason for that. Two days ago I updated it and I could see
 the release. Yesterday it was gone. After logging in, I found the release,
 changed something and it appeared again. Today it once more disappeared.
 http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/organon-1

 Can anyone tell me what might go wrong? Any common mistakes I'm trapped by?

 And one more question: Is there any possibility to see how often the
 extension was downloaded? As a developer it would be nice to see.

 Regards,
 Xaver

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Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility with Microsoft Access

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It depends on what you mean by coding and what the requirements of the
course are. If she is to be coding in VBA, only Access will do. If she will
be required to use Access on tests, only Access wil do. Even the SQL that
Access uses has some differences from the SQL used in Base, since Base does
not use the Jet engine that Access uses. The reporting system in Access is
quite unique, and learning the Libreoffice equivalents would be confusing
to a beginner.

So, sadly, it looks like you'll have to use Access.

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wrote:

 Hi,
 My daughter's in need of Microsoft access for her homework - she's studying
 computer
 technology at high school, and she needs Access for coding.  Anyone knows
 if
 liber office should do the job?
 Thanks in advance.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] What is the current best ODF editing Android Package?

[jomali]

If you are satisfied with the capabilities of Google documents, you can
download Google Docs for Android and
- Create new documents or edit any that were created on the web or on
another device.
- Share documents and work together with others in the same document at the
same time.
- Open, edit, and save Microsoft Word documents.
- Get stuff done anytime -- even without an internet connection.
- Add and respond to comments.
- Never worry about losing your work -- everything is automatically saved
as you type
as they say in their advertising. Note that you can work without an
internet connection, and then, when you do have a connection, upload to
Google Docs.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


 Just wondering . . .

 For non-ODF editing [ .doc and .docx ] . . . Which Android app would you
 use?  I do not want Cloud computing since most of the time the tablet will
 not have access to the Net.

 I looked at some reviews for AOO and EuroOffice for Android and the review
 was all over the place from good to bad.

 I do want to keep the page format, font usage, and other page items kept
 intact.

 Sure I would prefer to deal with ODF, but if I am going to email the
 document to a user or hand over my microSD card for them to copy the
 document to their system, I would need to be able to keep the page
 formatting intact and be able to read/write the document to/from the
 microSD card [32 gig card will be used].  I just wish the tablet has a USB
 port - but the only one I could afford did not have as many feature as the
 tablet I expect to be delivered today.

 So it would be nice to finalize the Android app list today or tomorrow,
 since I plan on installing what I currently use now on my old Nook tablet
 this afternoon - if the tablet actually is delivered today.





 On 01/14/2015 01:12 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


 Thanks.

 I doubt I will create many documents - with images - on the tablet, since
 I would not have access to my image selection I have on my desktop drive
 system [not online] or the one I have on a 64GB flash drive that I take
 with me when I need an image/graphic while using the laptop.

 I need to keep the document formatting with the included image placement.

 As for Google Docs, I never tried to use them on a system that is offline.



 On 01/14/2015 10:47 AM, Cley Faye wrote:

 2015-01-14 16:09 GMT+01:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com:

  I am worried that MS Office now has apps for their Office packages
 that
 runs on Android 4.4 [and better].  I do not want to see LO and AOO loose
 out of the mobile market.

  ​From the (quick) glimpse I just had about Office on Android, I
 wouldn't
 say that they are better or worse​. It *will* open your document, but say
 goodbye to almost all of your formatting; even text size is inconsistent
 with the original. Images are nowhere to be found, no pagination, no
 header/footer... and that's for the viewing functionnality. When
 hitting
 the edit button, I get a message saying that it can NOT edit .doc
 files.
 Opening a .docx got me a sorry, this file can not be opened, it might be
 damaged (this same file works on the desktop version).
 And it could not open a file with a dash in its name, be it on the
 device,
 or from either dropbox and onedrive.

 Just to be complete on this short, somewhat negative review, I did
 create a
 new docx from the app. There's not much more, still no pictures, and no
 style support at all.

  From this short experience, you're better of loading Andropenoffice, at
 least the document sort of looks like what you expect. I'll admit such a
 quick test is not enough to get all the possibilities of the application,
 but from it I'm not too worried about their presence on Android.


  I do not know if I want to deal with Google Docs either.

  ​Are you sure about that? From what I've read about open document
 suite on
 Android, and from what I got when trying the msoffice stuff​, it sound
 way
 more reliable and you get roughly the same editing capabilities than
 msoffice.



  What I really want is a package that does not need to be connected to
 the
 cloud to use.  Most places I would be using the tablet will not have
 any
 guest access for me to use.  I want to be able to modify my documents
 -
 Word or Calc - at meetings or while I am waiting for appointments.  That
 way, I can show the modifications then and there for approval.

  ​All the options (Andropenoffice, MSOffice, and Google Docs) can manage
 offline documents. For GDocs you have some planning to do (mark some
 files
 as available offline), but it's also a possibility.

 Just to be clear, I'm not saying that one product is better than another;
 it's more that none of them is complete as it is today. For now you'll
 have
 to cut on your expectations if you want to edit real documents on a
 pure
 Android tablet. I made all three options choke at various 

Re: [libreoffice-users] ODS question

[jomali]

If the 2015 file is not yet populated, I would simply duplicate the 2014
file, rename the duplicate to 2015 and then delete any extraneous content
in the renamed duplicate.

If the 2015 file is populated, I would open both files, and, one by one,
select the sheet i want to copy and use the Edit-Sheet-Move/Copy function
to copy the sheet to the 2015 file.

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net
wrote:

 OS: Mageia 4, 64bit (if that makes a difference?)
 LibreOffice: 4.1.6.2

 I have two separate ODS files:  2014 and 2015

 I want to copy a sheet (the entire sheet) from 2014 to 2015.

 Is this possible, and if so, what is the recommended method?

 Actually, there are a few sheets I want to copy from 2014 to 2015, but one
 at a time.

 Thank you
 Regards
 Fred James


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: rtf files

[jomali]

Sorry, Tom, that is plain text, just like HTML is plain text. Yes, it
contains special codes, but it does not contain anything but plain ASCII
characters.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 I'm really not getting plain text.  When i right-click and open in a
 text-editor i get this sort of thing;

 {\rtf1\ansi\deff3\adeflang1025
 {\fonttbl{\f0\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Times New
 Roman;}{\f1\froman\fprq2\fcharset2 Symbol;}{\f2\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0
 Arial;}{\f3\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Liberation Serif{\*\falt Times New
 Roman};}{\f4\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0 Liberation Sans{\*\falt
 Arial};}{\f5\fnil\fprq2\fcharset0 Droid Sans
 Fallback;}{\f6\fnil\fprq2\fcharset0 FreeSans;}{\f7\fswiss\fprq0\fcharset128
 FreeSans;}}
 {\colortbl;\red0\green0\blue0;\red128\green128\blue128;}

 {\stylesheet{\s0\snext0\nowidctlpar{\*\hyphen2\hyphlead2\hyphtrail2\hyphmax0}\cf0\kerning1\dbch\af5\langfe2052\dbch\af6\afs24\alang1081\loch\f3\fs24\lang2057
 Normal;}

 {\s15\sbasedon0\snext16\sb240\sa120\keepn\dbch\af5\dbch\af6\afs28\loch\f4\fs28
 Heading;}
 {\s16\sbasedon0\snext16\sl288\slmult1\sb0\sa140 Text Body;}
 {\s17\sbasedon16\snext17\sl288\slmult1\sb0\sa140\dbch\af7 List;}
 {\s18\sbasedon0\snext18\sb120\sa120\noline\i\dbch\af7\afs24\ai\fs24
 Caption;}
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 On 19 November 2014 16:16, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:

  2014-11-19 16:58 GMT+01:00 Virgil Arrington arringto...@gmail.com:
 
   That's one of the things I've always liked about RTF. In a pinch, one
   could open an RTF file in Notepad and strip out all of the RTF coding
 and
   be left with a document's contents. I've never had to do it, but it's
  nice
   that it can be done. With a binary file, you're left with smiley faces
  and
   no visible content.
 
 
  ​Now, add a picture to your rtf file and see how fun it is to have all
  things in a plaintext, notepad friendly​ file format...
 
  More recent format like odt (and docx for that matter) are *WAY* better.
  (is there a way to emphasis this more?). They are in fact a collection of
  files in a simple ZIP, but the core of it (the text and structure) is in
 a
  straightforward XML file which is as plaintext as an RTF file. In fact,
  it's easier to strip the extra tags out of an XML file, since tools to
  manipulate/reformat XML are extremely common.
 
  With recent format, you get the possibility, should an issue arise, to
  ​extract the plaintext content, and even the attached files (pictures and
  other embedded OLE stuff) with common tools. This is even demonstrated on
  this list, when sometime someone get a corrupted file, and it is possible
  to recover it with stuff like notepad and windows' zip file explorer.
 
  There's no comparison between these format, heavily documented in case of
  ODT, that put a clear separation between content and format, and an RTF
  file that want to cram everything (content, format, and binary blobs for
  image) in a single plaintext file.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab defaults change when pasting into Writer from some other applications

[jomali]

Couldn't be simpler. Simply create a personal template containing your
personal default styles and save a new default template for styles you want
all users on that machine to use. See
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Changing_the_Default_Template to see
how to do it.

John

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 It's be nice if certain users could set the style for all users on that
 machine.  So 2 option rather than just the one, maybe.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 5 November 2014 16:31, Paul D. Mirowsky p_mirow...@bentaxna.com
 wrote:

  Correction: Change this style permanently? should be Change your
  personal style permanently?.
 
  That way the user does not assume that they are changing the default
  setting, but unique to them.
 
 
  On 11/5/2014 10:44 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
 
 
  On 11/5/2014 10:30 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
 
 
  So, it begs the question, when you are using Writer, should there be a
  menu item that asks Change this style permanently? so the your world
  grows instead of trying to predetermine everything?
 
 
  MS Word has a setting in its Styles dialog that allows one to save a
  modified style to the template upon which the loaded document is based.
  I've always thought a similar shortcut in Writer would be nice.
 
  It would also be nice to assign a shortcut key to a style from within
 the
  Styles dialogs rather than through the more cumbersome Tools/Customize
  dialogs. (Interestingly, the contextual Help screen for the Styles
  Organizer tab states there is an Assign Shortcut Key option, but
 I've
  never seen it.)
 
  Virgil
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab defaults change when pasting into Writer from some other applications

[jomali]

I can't say I agree with Virgil. You can't help working with styles.
Whenever you create a document, the default set of styles is automatically
applied. When you create a numbered or bulleted list, you are applying the
associated styles automatically. The other styles (e.g., heading styles)
are there for you to use if you need them, no matter how short or one-off
your document is. Learning to use the style system pays off handsomely,
even if you only need the defaults.

John

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you; your explanation makes sense.



 From: Virgil Arrington arringto...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab defaults change when pasting into
 Writer from some other applications
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org


 Styles work best if you are creating the same types of documents over and
 over again. But, if each document is unique and relatively short, you'll
 spend more time setting up your styles than just getting your work done.

 Indeed, one of the drawbacks of using styles is that they take considerable
 investment of time and effort to create and/or maintain. To me, the
 investment has been worth it, and I would consider it essential to really
 good output, but I fully understand when other people say they just want to
 get their work done without fiddling with the program itself.

 Virgil



 On 11/01/2014 04:19 PM, anne-ology wrote:

  Wow, you're really bringing your students up to date;
  congratulations!
 
  Maybe I should start using 'styles'  ;-)
 
 
 
  From: Virgil Arrington arringto...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab defaults change when pasting into
  Writer from some other applications
  To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
  Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
 
 
 
  On 11/1/2014 9:33 AM, anne-ology wrote:
 
   I agree with your method ...  congratulate you on obviously
 being
 
  a bright teacher.
 
  Now ...
  I'm curiously wondering how using 'styles' differs from the
  'select all' then changing the font, or whatever;
  that method takes me mere seconds as well  ;-)
 
  Also, I'm curiously wondering what method(s) your students would
  be
  using which would take them so long ???
 
 
   If the *only* thing you want to change is the font document-wide, then
  your
  select all method will work. But formatting goes far beyond changing a
  font.
 
  The documents I typically create (as simple as they are) have many
  different types of paragraphs including the following:
 
  - A Title, set in 20 point, bold, Linux Biolinum G, centered, with 12
  points of white space below the paragraph.
 
  - A Subtitle, the same as the Title, except with 16 point, bold type.
 
  - Several Section Heading paragraphs, each with Linux Biolinum G in ever
  reducing sizes, flush left, with 12 points of white space above the
  paragraph, and with automatic numbering through the Outline Numbering.
  Also, I have them set to keep with the next paragraph, which is
 important
  when creating heading styles to ensure that you don't have a random
 heading
  by itself at the bottom of the page with the following paragraph on the
  next page. If I need a Chapter Title paragraph, I can create it to
 always
  begin on a new page.
 
  - A main Body paragraph, with 12 point Linux Libertine G, set flush left,
  single spaced, with 12 points of white space above it.
 
  - A main Body paragraph, the same as the above, but with an indented
 first
  line (2 picas) and no white space above the paragraph.
 
  - Main Body paragraphs set double-spaced for legal briefs and scholarly
  paragraphs.
 
  - A Blockquote paragraph, which is single spaced and indented 2 picas on
  the left margin with additional white space above and below the
 paragraphs.
 
  To generate all of this formatting without styles requires the user to
  format each paragraph or set of paragraphs directly, selecting each
  formatting characteristic separately, including font, size, line spacing,
  paragraph indents, and on and on. Doing it directly takes a lot of time,
  and then you have to be careful to make sure all your section headings
 are
  formatted consistently (was that 16 points or 18 points?). But, to do it
  with styles is super quick. And the consistency throughout the document
  almost brings tears of joy to my eyes.
 
  Virgil
 
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Writer - Bold activates by itself

[jomali]

You have to realize that ODF uses an xml-based markup system, not a
formatting codes system, as Wordperfect did. When you apply a bold style to
a snippet of text, you are essentially creating a markup (greatly
simplified) span style=boldsnippet/span. When you change the style to
normal, you are telling LO make the next snippet on this line normal.
When you hit the return button, you are essentially saying to LO, close
this paragraph, causing LO to add a /p piece of markup. However, LO also
remembers the style of the last entry on the line, and applies it to the
next paragraph as well. To see this in action, perform jerryb's procedure,
but type some text in normal style after the bold text on the first line.
You will see the normal style applied to the next paragraph.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Graham Luffrum grhmlf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tom,

 yes, I switch off bold.  What is not clear to me at all in Writer (and in
 Word) is to what character the codes switching on and off bold etc. are
 attached.  I write every now and then texts with mathematics in them and
 variable names are always in italics.  Sometimes I want to change a name,
 say from x (italic) to ax (italic).  The way I did it in WordPerfect was to
 put the cursor before the x and type an a - very easy.  In Writer you
 cannot do that, as you get a normal a and not an italicised one.  I would
 then guess that the on and off codes are stuck to the next character, which
 might explain the behaviour mentioned by the OP.  I doubt somehow that this
 is a bug.

 Graham

 On 4 November 2014 09:36, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi :)
  Ahh, you reminded me!  Yes i used to like that feature of Wordperfect a
  LOT too.  With Writer and Word i've always tended to switch on the
  backwards P to show all non-printing characters.  It doesn't go quite as
  far as Wp did but it's still a huge help.
 
  Errr, most people seem to hate seeing those characters and seem to think
  Writer is broken when they see them on my screen or see it as proof that
  Writer is unusable.  So i have to switch them off a lot of the time, when
  working with others :(
 
  You seem to be the first person saying that you have seen the odd
  behaviour in other versions of LibreOffice.  Are you sure you switched
 Bold
  off?
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
  On 4 November 2014 07:49, Graham Luffrum grhmlf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I seem to recall that this has always been the case, at least under
 Linux
  Mint with various versions of LibreOffice.  Interestingly, if on the
  second
  line one puts some text (not in bold as one would expect) and then do
  newline and move the cursor back up to before the text on line two it
  shows
  bold as being off.  (I have to say that one thing which I miss in Writer
  and also in Word, when I used it, is the approach that WordPerfect used
  (or
  maybe still does if it still exists) whereby one could see the codes
 that
  switched bold, and underlining etc. on and off.  One could then see
  exactly
  where the bolding started and stopped.)
 
  Graham
 
  On 4 November 2014 01:17, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   I have verified this in 4.4.0.0 alpha and 4.3.2.2 under Fedora 21
  
   I can also see that the problem is NOT apparent under XP on 4.2.0.4.
  
   What OS are you using?
  
   Cheers
  
  
   On 04/11/14 10:41, jerryvb wrote:
  
   I have found a strange action by Writer. I think it might be a bug,
 but
   I'm
   not sure. At the moment I'm using LibreOffice Writer 4.2.6.3. But, I
  have
   verified this also in 4.3.1.1, 4.3.1.2, 4.3.2.2, and 4.3.3.2.
  
   In a Writer text document, on a blank line, do this:
  
   1. Turn on Bold either by Ctr+B or by toolbar button.
   2. Type some text in bold font.
   3. Before pressing Enter, Type Ctl+B to turn bold off.
   4. Press Enter two times.
   5. Press the Up arrow one time.
   6. Look at the Bold toolbar button, Bold will be back on.
  
   I just tested LibreOffice 3.5.4.2, and OpenOffice 4.3.1, both of
 those
  do
   not act this way.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Making horizontal lines in Writer

[jomali]

My preferred way to insert horizontal lines is to insert a right tab after
the explanatory text, format the tab with a bottom border, and move it to
the place I want the line to end. The tab position and formatting hold for
subsequent paragraphs, so you can make as many new lines as you need. When
you need to change the tab position, you can do so freely. You also can
insert as many right tabs on a line as you need.

I haven't tested it, but I believe tab formatting and position is preserved
when exporting to word.



On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:27 PM, J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I'm using 4.3.1.2 on Xubuntu Linux.

 I am creating some lesson handouts for a class I'm going to be teaching. I
 have to email them to our secretary, who has to read them in MS Office for
 printing.
 ​
 The ​documents are formatted in landscape mode.

 In the document I enter a short text line, press Enter, then I type in
 three dashes, press Enter, and waula, I have a horizontal line for the
 students to  write their answers on.
 ​Sometimes I continue pressing Enter to automatically create as many lines
 as I need.
 ​
 This works fine as ling as I stay in .odt format. But if I save the
 document in .doc format, and then open the .doc file in LibreOffice, some
 of the horizontal lines are missing. I have tried everything I can think
 of, but I can't get all of the lines to stick from .odt to .doc format.

 I have read the Help page here:
 https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Drawing_Lines_in_Text
 ​ .
 But ​those tips don't work either.

 ​I am being forced to work in Win​broke using BS Word. Help!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Turn Off All Automated Functions

[jomali]

It's sad that you went to all that trouble. The only thing you had to do
was to learn that, when the automatic correction was made was to
immediately hit Ctrl-z (or Cmd-z on a Mac) or Edit-Undo to reverse the
automatic change. Had you consulted the Help, you would have found this
under Autocorect - While Typing.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote:

 Well, I must say, I'm a little puzzled myself...

 I'm running LO 4.1.1.2, and after reading this mail, I just tried this
 myself, thinking it should be easy. And for some reason, almost nothing
 I did prevented LO Writer from automatically capitalizing the first
 letter of the word cat when I typed the space (or enter) after the
 word.

 Things I tried:

 * Turned off the AutoSpellcheck button on the toolbar
 * Tools | Language | For Selection | None (Do not check spelling)
 * Tools | Language | For Paragraph | None (Do not check spelling)
 * Tools | Language | For all Text | None (Do not check spelling)
 * Tools | Options | Language Settings | Writing Aids | Options | Check
   spelling as you type
 * Tools | Options | Language Settings | Writing Aids | Options | Check
   grammar as you type
 * Tools | Options | Language Settings | Writing Aids | Available
   language modules - Unchecked all

 What did finally work was:

 * Tools | AutoCorrect Options | Options | Capitalize first letter of
   every sentence - Unchecked [T]

 Things this shows me (in no particular order):

 * There are too many places that such options can be set. Not only all
   the places I found options to twiddle, but also all the other places
   where I didn't find any relevant options (but still had to look).
 * Trying to find any given option is harder than it should be (as a
   consequence of the above).
 * It is confusing to the user as to which set of options operates at
   any given time (as a consequence of the above).
 * There is no easy way to toggle this behaviour on and off in its
   entirety, you can only do it for options individually.

 I think the language settings need an overhaul and consolidation, and
 at least a way to toggle it all off and on in one shot, for people that
 occasionally need to enter some text that should stay verbatim and
 uncorrected.


 Just my thoughts.

 Paul



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 kajdna palmspring...@gmail.com wrote:

  *My*
 
  My gripe with libreoffice are its stupid algorithims that
  constantly find false errors in what I type.
 
  If I type *** as a break between sections I get a bold line
 
  If I type cat --help
 
  I get Cat --(dash)help
 
  Is there ONE place where I can turn off ALL automatic overrides?
 
  If I can't type what I want to type, libreoffice is a deal-breaker. I
  have carefully searched all menus.
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

[jomali]

Joel,

The NumberOfBooksByAuthor and ReadBooksByAuthor fields are unnecessary.
They can be derived from a simple query for a report.

Since there has to be a one-to-one relation between the ReadStatus table
and the BookInformation table, you might as well merge them. When you do
merge them, a NotRead field is superfluous. If the Read field is binary,
when it is true the book has been read and when it is false it is not read.
Also, you left out a DateRead field, corresponding to the Year, Month, Day
fields of your original spread sheet.

Similarly, since there has to be a one-to-one relation between the
BookInformation table and the Rankings table, you might as well merge them
as well.

The NumberOfBooksInSeries, the ReadInSeries and the RemainingInSeries
fields are unnecessary. Such information is readily obtained through
queries for reports.

By the way, carefully consider how you intend to import the data from your
original spreadsheet to the database. There are various ways to do it, and
how you structure your database will impact how you import your data.




On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 So I went back to planning stage. Link to what I think might work - hoping
 to get the planning stage done today so I can start actually putting
 together the db - I have 3 days off so now's a good time for me to get the
 basic structure together :) Thanks in advance!

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdbGJIQ1M3NWtrdmc/
 edit?usp=sharing

 Best,
 Joel


  I havne't used Base, but I have taken a very complex spreadsheet and
 designed an SQL database from it when it became unwieldy. Key things I'd
 suggest, more tables is not bad, in fact the more the better if it clearly
 separates data into one table. Do not duplicate data. If you have a field
 whose contents are duplicated then that really probably needs to be a
 separate table.

 2 books I found invaluable for helping me design my system are

 Beginning Database Design by Clare Churcher and Beginning SQL Queries
 also by Clare Churcher. They were the most readable and understandable of
 the lot.

 If I were doing your system I'd do the following:
 Book table
 Title
 number of pages
 Foreign key links to an authors table and a series table
 boolean read or not or else a link to a table read status see
 below
 Authors
 Name
 Series
 Name of series like Dragons of Pern or Harry Potter
 Read status
 started
 finished
 wanted

 Linking should be by query.

 On Aug 8, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

  Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone has thoughts. Worst case I'm
 going to just dive into Database and see what I can learn but I'm hoping
 to
 get a little feedback before spending time which might be totally
 pointless
 as I really don't have the time to just throw away ;) Thanks again in
 advance!


  Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire
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 LambTracker - Open Source SW for Shepherds http://www.lambtracker.com
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base questions

[jomali]

Actually, it's just as easy to use Access as a front end to external DBMS'
as it is to use Base. As long as an ODBC driver is available and registered
in Windows, the external database looks like the native database. Just as
in Base, the features of the external DBMS have to be exposed by the driver
to be available to the front end. I know, because I've done it with more
than one external DBMS.


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 i think that could get really confusing!  At the moment internal means
 within Base itself and external means anywhere else.

 However the anywhere else is really quite a vast range of places!  And
 the back-end could even be moved from one place to another with very little
 change in Base.  Such places as

 1.  Same folder as Base  (might seem a no-brainer at first)
 2.  Same machine (desktop?) but different folder
 3.  A shared folder on a local network, such as on a company file-server

 I think back-ends can also be on;

 4.  A remote folder on an off-site machine
 5.  A database on a website
 6.  Up on a Cloud (err that is really 4 again, right?)

 This is one way Base is more powerful than Access.  Of course it one that
 keeps being kept quiet in the race to try to make it seem as limited as
 Access (because weeus only know Access, right??).

 It's possible to use different programs to access the same data and use it
 in different ways.  Can Access be easily set-up as a networked database and
 able to be read by multiple different users on different machines at the
 same time as each other?  I think it can but needs someone seriously
 geeky.  Base is designed to do it by default.

 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 6 August 2014 15:44, Paul D. Mirowsky p_mirow...@bentaxna.com wrote:

  So, what appears to be happening is consensus that other database
  back-ends should be used.
 
  What is implied, is that Base does not have the ability to generate from
 a
  package, the selected external database of choice.
 
  1. Is this correct?
  2. Should it be corrected?
  3. When generated, should 'internal' mean in the same folder, 'external'
  mean somewhere else?
 
  Thanks
  Paul
 
  On 8/4/2014 10:36 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
 
  Average end-user is challenged enough just installing an O/S and
  productivity suite, and learning how to use them, much less a real
  RDBMS.
 
  PostgreSQL is pretty foolproof to install and use. I know what I am
  talking about since I am the reference fool.
 
  It may be something different if you need to maintain it for running a
  huge database that gets a serious load of queries and transactions and
  needs to be fault-tolerant, accessible from the public Internet etc.
  But for home or small business use cases it's really simple.
 
   Plus: MS Office (Pro) has one, so LibréOffice and relatives
  have to have one.
 
  Access is a dangerous heap of junk.
I know of Access users who get their database corrupted roughly every
  four weeks on average.
 
   Yes: Such tools should never, ever be used for anything very
  important.
 
  Base looks and feels like a perfectly credible CRUD and
  reporting frontend for a database. It's just the choice of an embedded
  database for storage that's a mistery for me.
 
  At best, it's useless to include HSQL. At worst, it might discredit LO
  as a whole.
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Wolfgang
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File corruption on OSX and LO 4252

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I am working with OSX 10.9.4

I just created a test writer document in 4.2.4.2, saved it to a FAT-32
fomatted memory stick, opened it in 4.2.5.2, made some modifications and
re-saved it. I then opened it in 4.2.5.2. It opened flawlessly. I don't
have a FAT-32 USB hard drive to test it on, but since LO only sees the
drive through the OS, I don't see what difference it would make.

Just another data point.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac Upgrade error?

[jomali]

I was running 4.1.6 and just downloaded 4.2.3. I opened the DMG, dragged
the file to the Applications folder and opened it on an oder document. It
worked fine, so I would recommend you do the same.


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Phil skegg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys

 Im running OSX 10.6.8, running Version 4.0.0.0.beta1 (Build ID:
 87906242e87d3ddb2ba9827818f2d1416d80cc7)
 TinderBox: MacOSX TDF Release, Branch:libreoffice-4-0, Time:
 2012-12-05_22:13:37

 I believe it was one of the first beta release's, and decided to upgrade
 when i saw the little notification to download the updated version, after
 having put it off for a while. The version i downloaded was 4.2.2

 First off i just dragged the file over, and ran LO, checked to make sure
 it was updated, just by checking about, and it still said running the above
 version? So put LO in the trash (in a nice way), copied the file again from
 the DMG and ran LO, and it still says the above version?

 Anyone any ideas?

 Cheers
 Phil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MSO for iPad, big deal or big yawn

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Note that the Android app is free only for home use. A business use
requires an Office 365 account. I have no idea how they check on how it is
used, though.

Jomali


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Ra ravi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apparently it is. Has been for a few days now. :)


 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.officehub

 Haven't tried it myself (and I don't plan to). Running Android 2.3 whereas
 it requires 4.0+.



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  Hi :)
  Hmm, even if MSO have got there first and LibreOffice follows i think
  that's not hugely different from the desktop.
 
  I'm not convinced that MSO is available for Android.  I've seen
  announcements that it is available for iPads but iPads are different
  from Androids.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  On 1 April 2014 17:59, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Stuart
  
  
   V Stuart Foote wrote
   It's a shame none of the Open Source office's has the manpower to
 build
   an
   Android version. Now it's too late ;)
  
   Seriously, Pedro?  Actually, TDF and the LibreOffice Devs, notably Tor
   Lillqvist, have been hard after an Android build.
  
   Not sure of its fitness for use, but  daily builds of Master for
 Android
   are here:
   TinderBox 24 -- Android-ARM
   
 
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@24-Bytemark-Hosting/
  
  
   Seriously. I'm well aware of that. That is why I mentioned manpower.
 I
   didn't say no one.
   The Android build simply doesn't do anything (at least the last time I
  tried
   about a month ago...)
   Unless there were some fantastic progresses I doubt that it's up to par
  with
   Kingsoft (haven't tried MSO yet)
  
   Pedro
  
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Connect Base to External HSQLDB

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On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote:

 snip
 Hey Alex,

 So what you are saying is that I can create a LO Base DB that references
 tables stored in the standalone HSQLDB database with the JDBC connector,
 and use that .odb file as a back end to another LO Base DB which acts as
 a front end?  I've read, and been told on this mail list that LO Base
 can't do that.  If I could do that I wouldn't need the standalone
 HSQLDB, just a plain .odb file with some tables in it.

 I've been trying to get this set up for months with no success.  I could
 have done all this and more with Microsoft Access in just a few days.
 This really shouldn't be this hard.

 I think I need someone to hold my hand through the creation of just one
 very simple LO Base DB with just two tables in it.


 Mark,

I think your confusion lies in equating an .odb file with an Access
database. The .odb file never contains the data. It is a sort of registry
that points to wherever the data is. Thus, Base is the front end, a real
database is the back end, and the .odb file serves as the intermediary (to
oversimplify).

John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Connect Base to External HSQLDB

[jomali]

Thanks, Alex, for the clarification. Since I have never used the internal
hsqldb database, I was unaware that it kept its data in the .odb file. The
last internal database I used was Adabas D in Staroffice. I quickly went to
JDBC or ODBC connectors to other external datbase engines (e.g., MySQL).
John


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 11/03/2014 13:23, jomali wrote:

 Hi John,

  I think your confusion lies in equating an .odb file with an Access
  database. The .odb file never contains the data. It is a sort of registry
  that points to wherever the data is. Thus, Base is the front end, a real
  database is the back end, and the .odb file serves as the intermediary
 (to
  oversimplify).

 I agree with everything you have written, except that, by default, if
 you use the wizard to create a standard (and I use that term very
 loosely) ODB file, LO creates an ODB file which embeds its own
 hsqldb-compatible data into the file and then uses the LO-shipped
 hsqldb.jar to be the db engine. This is where it gets confusing for
 people wanting to split out their data from their forms, queries,
 reports, etc.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Query

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On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Ernest Dale ernest.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 I run an important database on Lotus Approach and I have found that
 Approach will not install on a fresh version of Windows.
 To surmount the problem I have downloaded Libre Office and attempted to
 transfer the database on to it. I appear to have succeeded but the result
 is what looks like a spreadsheet and I cannot find a way to display one
 record at a time.
 I am pretty computer savvy even though ninety years of age. I could do with
 a simpler manual than the one I have found on the web which is hundreds of
 pages long and I cannot copy the sections which look as thought they might
 be helpful. Can you help?
 Ernest Dale
 ernest.dal...@gmail.com

 Ernest,

Since Approach used the dBase file format as its default, did you import
the data using the LO dBase import filter? If you did, it's likely that you
imported it into LO Calc, which is a spreadsheet program. You can open the
spreadsheet in LO Base, but it will be read-only.

Please let us know the operating system us are using and the version of LO
you are using, along with more details, such as whether you really need the
capabilities of a relational database and the kind of reports you need to
produce.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Row height inexplicably changes after various innocuous operations

[jomali]

I don't see Default value anywhere on my sheet. Where do you see it?


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:41 AM, whatever 
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 I  previously posted
 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Pasting-plain-text-into-Calc-changes-row-height-and-undo-doesn-t-revert-td4086328.html
 
 about an issue with row height, but the problem is even more basic than I
 realized at the time. Pasting isn't required at all to trigger it. This is
 still in a vanilla install of LibreOffice v 4.1.3.2 installed via
 PortableApps.com in Windows 7 Home Premium x64

 Create a new spreadsheet. Already there's a problem: row #1 has height
 0.17
 with Default value unchecked. All other rows (presumably) have height
 0.18 with Default value checked.

 You can now perform one of a variety of innocuous operations and the row
 height inexplicably changes. Examples:

 * Enter a character, say x, in cell A2 and press Enter. Row height is
 unchanged. Enter the same character in cell A2 and press Enter again. Row
 height is unchanged.  Perform an Undo operation (reverting A2 content from
 x to x) -- row height changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked.

 * Select cell A3, and click Format  Change Case  lowercase -- row height
 changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked.

 I'm sure there are many more examples.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug report -- Libre Ofice version 4.1.3.2 (again)

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On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Robert Baker korax1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Version: 4.1.3.2
 Build ID: 70feb7d99726f064edab4605a8ab84
 0c50ec57a

 Libre Office Writer:

 The ability to draw and erase lines in tables is missing, hence for
 instance it is not possible (that I know of) to use Writer to create an
 echelon table such as a table of dominoes (see attached image for an
 example of what I mean), even though Writer will correctly load such a
 document created in Word.


Very easy to do. Remove all borders from the table, then use the borders
button to apply borders to each cell you want to outline.


 Libre Office Calc:

 The END key functionality is not implemented correctly; pressing END causes
 an immediate jump to the last active column of the current spreadsheet.
 What is *supposed* to happen is that END acts as a shift key; pressing END
 and then an arrow key causes one of the following to happen:

 1) If currently on a non-empty cell, move to the last non-empty cell in the
 current block in the direction pressed.

 2) If currently on an empty cell, move to the next non-empty cell in that
 direction; or if there are none, to the start/end a appropriate.


True if Excel is your standard of correct implementation. The LO
implementation is different. You can find out the LO implementation by
looking up Shortcut Keys in help.



 It is not possible to edit an Excel template (.xlt); attempting to do so
 causes a new document to be created based on the template. If trying to
 open a template, rather than explicitly requesting a new document, one
 should be asked whether editing the template itself, or a new document
 based on it, is what is required.


That is correct functionality. The point of creating a template is to not
have it editable, rather to have it open to a new document. When it does
so, edit the new document and save it over the old template, if that is
what you want to do.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

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Once again, Umas, you set up a straw man and demolish him!

FOSS means Free and Open Source Software. It doesn't necessarily refer to
software created by some pure amateur in his garage. As long as the creator
(commercial firm, university or private individual) releases the source at
no cost, it is FOSS.


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter West:

 Non-FOSS (BSD-licensed software):

 Mac OS X  (based on BSD and the Mach kernel)
 Linux
 gcc

 Developed by commercial companies:
 Android (based on Linux)
 apache
 Firefox
 OpenJDK
 saxon
 LibreOffice

 So far FOSS 'community' created nothing successful. Everything was
 designed and implemented by real software developers or universities.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using_LibreOffice_in_a_Web_Browser

[jomali]

Can't you use LogMeIn.com to do what you want?


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM, David Lastovicka da...@lastovicka.czwrote:

 bill william at techservsys.com writes:

 
  On 2/23/2013 3:00 PM, Luuk wrote:
   Not any good answers, and not any bad answers.
   No answers at all. ;(
  
   Seems no one is interested in being able to edit via a browser
 
  I can not imagine why I would want to.
  Why would I want to ?
 

 Because from anywhere I could connect to my home computer and edit my
 libreoffice documents directly on this home computer without caring about
 their synchronization or about
 the fact whether libreoffice is installed on the computer that I happened
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using_LibreOffice_in_a_Web_Browser

[jomali]

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl
kolbjo...@stuestoel.nowrote:

 Den 12.11.2013 16:47, skreiv jomali:

 Can't you use LogMeIn.com to do what you want?

 I am using Dropbox for that purposes. It is free up to a few Gb of storage.
 Kolbjoern


Dropbox != LogMeIn. Dropbox just stores files. LogMeIn accesses your remote
computer, allowing you to control it as if you were sitting at its
keyboard. It, too, is free.

snip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open fails, looks like chinese

[jomali]

Works fine for me.

How are you trying to import the data? What are the settings on the Text
Import Dialog?

jomali

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Re: [libreoffice-users] macro to search and replace from a table?

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.comwrote:

 2013/10/16 T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.com

  I want to do a Romanization of a text.


 What does that mean (sorry if that's a stupid question)?


Google (or Bing) is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization



 Johnny Rosenberg


  I know I can write a (lengthy!)
  macro to look for each possible character and substitute accordingly,
  but was wondering if it would be possible to have a macro refer to a
  substitution table which could be changed from time to time and do a
  substitution for all the characters in a text according to the table?
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting pdf into writer document

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On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM, william drescher
will...@techservsys.comwrote:

 I have a pdf file that is 233 pages long.  Some is native pdf, other pages
 are apparently images scanned into the document.

 Is there any way I can take pages from the pdf and insert them into writer
 ?

 win 7

 bill


 1. Open new writer text document.
2. Highlight text in pdf you want to insert into writer document.
3. Copy
4. Paste in to writer document
5. Format as desired.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] MariaDB 5.5.33 Now Available

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When it includes an OSX installer, I'll consider it.

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)

 Another stable release from MariaDb.


 Last time a few of the BoD slapped my wrists for posting 'irrelevant' and
 'off-topic' posts and cited forwarding the last MariaDb announcement as an
 example, meanwhile a few  people here suggested that it was good to hear
 about because so many GnuLinux distros are swapping out MySql (Oracle's)
 and replacing with MariaDb (which i thought had recently merged with
 another fork of MySql or something).

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

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On Friday, August 16, 2013, jack wallen wrote:


  On 14/08/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com javascript:;
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  display graphics, it's not very elegant. I've found that books with
  anything
 
  more than a stream of text create issues for the Kindle.

 Ultimately, in the end, you have to export (save as) to HTML anyway (to
 import into Calibre). Once you've done that, you can arrange your graphics
 as you see fit. But just taking a LibreOffice doc (with images) and
 getting into a format the meatgrinder of various ebook sites will accept
 (such as Amazon, BN, Smashwords, Kobo, etc) will be a challenge.

 Wrong! Calibre does a great job of converting .odt to ePub without an
intermediate conversion to HTML.


 
 
  Thankfully there are a multitude of other devices available with the
  better advantage of epub support.
 
  I have to wonder if the LO user guides are simply too complex for
  elegant
  translation to e-reader format.
 
 
  They should be; if an academic article with maths and graphics (e.g.
  http://downloads.hindawi.com/journals/jtc/2013/349870.epub) can be
  created, the LO user guides should be possible.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 4.0.3

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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote:

 And some more info and statics with charts, to refudiate your claims of
 Windows XP and Vista (the latter also a disaster for MS) of combined market
 share.

 http://www.statista.com/**topics/823/microsoft/chart/**
 799/market-share-of-selected-**windows-operating-systems/http://www.statista.com/topics/823/microsoft/chart/799/market-share-of-selected-windows-operating-systems/

 And it shows what you know of Linux. FACT, it along with various flavours
 of Unix, power the known global Internet servers, Observatories,
 MET/weather offices, Space exploration, the Mars machines, the majority of
 military machines/equipment, medical equipment, and lo and behold a good
 number of desktop, laptops around the world, and the no.1 O/S for mobile -
 Android, followed shortly by Firefox O/S and Ubuntu Touch.

You might also include iOS, which is a stripped-down version of OSX, a
flavor of BSD.


 You like many, incorrectly and simply refer to the desktop/laptop use of
 an O/S, yes where MS currently dominates, but not for long.

 Good Day

 Andrew Brown


 On 31/07/2013 10:20 AM, Andrew Brown wrote:

 Again, you troll with no supply of facts. My response was out by 2%
 WOW!!! but this article includes tablets and Windows RT

 http://www.winbeta.org/news/**windows-8-and-windows-rt-**
 account-45-global-tablet-**market-share-q2-2013http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-8-and-windows-rt-account-45-global-tablet-market-share-q2-2013

 Andrew Brown

 On 31/07/2013 04:45 AM, Urmas wrote:

 Just know that they are taking a knock, what with Windows 8 only
 migrating into less than 2% of the world market of their existing XP and
 Windows 7 base

 Windows 8 already has a market share of Windows XP and Vista combined on
 newer hardware (It's about 9 times of Linux marketshare, btw.).






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Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz tho...@s7.dion.ne.jpwrote:

 Good afternoon
 The last few days I upgraded from 3.6 something to 4.0.4.
 And this morning I noticed the template menu is gone.

 One of my computers has still 3.6 on it and there it is under Files -
 Templates.
 That's also where the extension items for the extension template
 changer appeared.

 After along search I found, that the template changer can now only be
 found in an unmarked grave
 = empty white space with a black triangle at its right margin BELOW File
 - Exit.

 But so far I was not able to find anything like Templates - Organize
 anywhere.

 Where is this now???
 Or has the software advanced so far, that creating, deleting, organizing
 templates etc. is now a thing of the past?

 Thank you.
 Thomas

snip
 The opening screen contains a Templates... icon that opens the Template
Manager. I presume the developers considered the availablity of the
capability to manage templates here and in the File-New-Templates
sufficient and eliminated what they considered a redundant approach.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Horizontal lines (rules) disappeared from Insert menu

[jomali]

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Krunoslav Šebetić kruno0...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have to insert a horizontal rule to separate document content - but the
 horizontal rule disappeared from menu. I checked in Help file and it should
 go like this: Insert  Horizontal rule ( plain), but there is no
 Horizontal rule under Insert menu.

 Probably doing something wrong...

 Debian Squeeze, LO 4.0.4.2


No, the command is missing in 4.0.4. Instead, just type ---enter

John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL Backup??

[jomali]

mysqldump database name  filename (with authentication) is the best backup
method. You can look up the details in the docs.

On Monday, May 27, 2013, Ian Whitfield wrote:

 Hi All

 I'm now using the MySQL back-end (5.1.55) with LO Base (3.6.5.2) as my
 front-end - all on PCLOS 2013.

 I've been messing around since late last year getting this all right,
 (with lots of GREAT help from the Forum!!)

 My question now is - Where does MySQL store the Database and how do I
 track it down to make a backup?? Because of all my messing around I have
 several different files in the system that may be the right one but I'm not
 sure which is which.

 I lost my whole Database at the beginning of the year when I re-installed
 my OpSys so DON'T want that to happen again and need a reliable backup
 method.

 Any suggestions would be most welcome.

 Thanks a lot

 IanW
 Pretoria RSA

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 1st steps with a different OS, was: No answers to my question

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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


 Hi :)
 Ahh, i didn't need to create new workspaces.  I just liked that i
 seemed to be able to navigate to existing ones using an easy key
 combination.  Something like;
 Ctrl/Apple-key/Alt and keyboard arrows


Apple calls Workspaces spaces. To find out how to go from one space to
another via tha keyboard just look at the Help Center, which shows:
Do any of these:

   - Swipe left or right with three fingers to scroll through your spaces.
   - Enter Mission Control, and then click the space you want to use.
   - Press the Control key and the number key for the space you want. For
   example, press Control-3 to go to Desktop 3.
   - Press the Control key and an arrow key to scroll through the spaces.

 That seems to be about as easy as in Linux.


 I
  hadn't previously realised Apple even had the workspaces idea
 built-in.  About a decade ago i wouldn't have recognised it nor realised
  how useful it is.  Now that i have used non-Windows OSes i did recognise
 it.

 Hmmm, that just led me to trying similar combinations on
 Ubuntu and i just found that pressing the 'Windows' key and holding it
 down brought up an overlay/pop-up that shows Keyboard Shortcuts.  Is
 that just in Unity?  So i have just learned i can switch workspaces by
 pressing;

 Ctrl Alt arrow-keys
 and that deals with 1 of the problems i've had with Unity.


 'Obviously' in Unity if you just tap the 'Windows' key it brings up the
 Dash Home which shows thumbnails of recently used apps and recently used
 files (potentially embarrassing if you have been working on confidential
 files or some such).  To get the elegant looking pop-up/overlay i held down
 the button for a while.


 I wonder

 1.  Why Ubuntu keyboards still use the MS logo on their 'Windows' key
 2.  If the police (or some such) will burst into my home and arrest me for
 scratching that logo out and painting a penguin on.

 Regards from
 Tom :)





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 To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013, 21:51
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: no answers to my question
 
 
 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  Just in case anyone thought i was sounding unusually knowledgeable (and
  about Macs!) all my stuff was in the snipped out bit.  It was all Alex
 and
  Ken there.
 
  I have just had a few days (1hour/day) on a Macbook but it's the first
  time i have used Mac in about a decade.  Wow though!  It was really nice
  and smooth!  It had some features that i really like GnuLinux for,
 such as
  multiple workspaces/virtual screens.
 
 
 Click on Mission Control, move cursor to the right of the top of the
 screen, click the + sign. Voila - new virtual screen/workspace.
 
 
  Some things were a bit upside down.  When you want to move a page up the
  screen to go on to the next page the gesture is to slide your fingers
 up.
  Hmmm, now i write that it seems more logical than the Windows way!  I'm
 not
  likely to buy one but it's really nice to use.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: no answers to my question

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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Just in case anyone thought i was sounding unusually knowledgeable (and
 about Macs!) all my stuff was in the snipped out bit.  It was all Alex and
 Ken there.

 I have just had a few days (1hour/day) on a Macbook but it's the first
 time i have used Mac in about a decade.  Wow though!  It was really nice
 and smooth!  It had some features that i really like GnuLinux for, such as
 multiple workspaces/virtual screens.


Click on Mission Control, move cursor to the right of the top of the
screen, click the + sign. Voila - new virtual screen/workspace.


 Some things were a bit upside down.  When you want to move a page up the
 screen to go on to the next page the gesture is to slide your fingers up.
 Hmmm, now i write that it seems more logical than the Windows way!  I'm not
 likely to buy one but it's really nice to use.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installation options are remembered?

[jomali]

Note that the Java security problems are only applicable to the Java
browser plug-in, not to the JRE.  You can safely use Java extensions. Just
don't install a Java browser plug-in.

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Thomas Becker tbecke...@tin.it wrote:

 Il 12/05/2013 14.47, Dan Lewis ha scritto:


If you are using Windows as your operating system, do a custom
 install. (The previous installation will not be remembered.)
   Is there a particular reason why you do not want to install Base?
 You could do the default install and not ever use Base. (I do not use
 the Math component even though I have it installed.) If size of the
 install is a problem, the custom install uses about 5 MiB less than the
 default install. LibreOffice is a single integrated program with a core
 section (most of the installation) and the individual components
 (Writer, Calc, Base, Draw, Impress, etc.) which each add 5-10 MiB of
 installed files. All of the components share the core section. They even
 use some of the files from other components. For example, Base forms and
 reports use Writer files to create or modify them. Impress uses Draw and
 Writer functions .


 Thanks for the replies, to you and Tom Davies.

 Yes, I'm using Windows, version 8 Pro 64bit.

 I prefer not to install Base, because I read that it requires Java, and I
 don't trust much Java, since there seem to be a lot of security issues
 appearing.

 Can you confirm that Base requires Java, which will be automatically
 installed during LibreOffice's installation?
 Thanks.

 Thomas



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Side notes aka Side titles

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Put the side note in a frame.


On Monday, March 4, 2013, Farlie A wrote:

 In a number of reports, and especially in  Commonwealth legislation I've
 encountered side titles, which are a form of sidenote which appears in one
 of the margins, with the main text content of the document adjusted
 accordingly.

 In looking through the menu options in Libre Office, I didn't find an
 option to insert these.

 So I am asking if there is a currently a straightforward way to set these
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Re: [libreoffice-users] new version of LO gives gibberish for excel file.

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Opens fine on LO 3.6.5. on my mac.

Jomali

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:18 AM, David B Teague sr 
davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote:

 Hi
 I just downloaded an excel file from
 http://www.taxpolicycenter.**org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?**Docid=205http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=205
 The file is the excel version of Historical Source of Revenue as Share of
 GDP.
 The newest, recommended version of LO opens the file as gibberish:
 LibreOffice Version 3.6.5.2 (Build ID: 5b93205)

 My system runs Windows 7, 64 bit, AMD quad core, 4 GB RAM.

 Can anyone explain or help me fix this?

 A workaround is to fetch MS' Excel Viewer, then copy from that to a table
 in Writer for my document, but I would prefer to use LO for as nearly
 everything as possible.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] calc: method to subdivide individual cells

[jomali]

I've been following this thread and wondering what a use case would be for
subdividing cells.


On Thursday, February 14, 2013, Tanstaafl wrote:

 On 2013-02-14 9:19 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:

 At 08:50 14/02/2013 -0500, Nobody Noname wrote:

 ... but it is much more complicated than if there was the possibility
 to just subdivide a single cell into multiples...


  OK: suppose you divide cell Xn into four cells- two vertically and two
 horizontally.  How do you now refer to the four new cells in formulae?


 Initially, until some method was developed that made sense, it could just
 be a limitation of split cells that you can't use them in formulas.

 And maybe it would have to stay that way. None of the times I wanted to be
 able to do this was it critical that I me able to use them in formulas.

  And which of the now four separate values gets used if you refer to
 plain cell Xn in a formula?


 Pick one (upper left, lower right, etc). Could even be a pref. Or, as
 above, make it unsupported, unless/until a method is developed for
 supporting it that makes sense.

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Re: BUG/FEATURE: Re: [libreoffice-users] --convert-to txt:Text *.odp, *.ods

[jomali]

 snip

 I believe it is a bug that Impress and Calc won't do text export. Yes,
 Calc does .csv, but the commas are a problem. A text export should use
 spaces (if this can be done on the command line then calc works. Impress
 needs a text export.

 In Calc:

1. Save As...
2. Choose to save as csv; tick Edit Filter Settings
3. Accept Use Text CSV Format
4. Tick Fixed Column Width
5 Save file

Saved file is pure text, fixed column width, no commas, no quotes.


 snip



 My feature request: Please, implement conversion to text for Impress and
 Calc as well. As stated, just dump the text out of ODP (use a newline or
 other whitespace character between text objects and slides, otherwise
 just straight text). For ODS, csv export works if the comma can be
 replaced by a space.

 As far as Impress is concerned, a presentation is essentially a set of
drawings with added bells  whistles. A text export would be so rarely used
that I doubt you could get any developer to be interested in adding such a
feature.

John

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Re: BUG/FEATURE: Re: [libreoffice-users] --convert-to txt:Text *.odp, *.ods

[jomali]

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Trever L. Adams trever.ad...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 10/20/2012 12:53 PM, jomali wrote:


   snip

 I believe it is a bug that Impress and Calc won't do text export. Yes,
 Calc does .csv, but the commas are a problem. A text export should use
 spaces (if this can be done on the command line then calc works. Impress
 needs a text export.

  In Calc:

  1. Save As...
 2. Choose to save as csv; tick Edit Filter Settings
 3. Accept Use Text CSV Format
 4. Tick Fixed Column Width
 5 Save file


 That will not work for massive batch/automatic conversions.

 Trever


I'm sorry. I did not understand your requirement. LO provides a programming
interface that can provide such special case functionality. I doubt that it
would ever be provided in LO itself.

John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base - need to re-point a form

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What are you talking about? Of course there is a command line interface to
MySQL in Windows. I use it all the time. Just go to Run and type mysql in
the Open: box. You'll get a Command prompt with mysql command line ready to
go.

John

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:23 AM, John Clegg john.cl...@nailsea.net wrote:

 Hm It isn't quite that simple in Windows (no command line mysql client)
 but I tried HeidiSQL and I can connect and amend data with no problems

 On 19 October 2012 13:44, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   Hi John,
 
 
  Le 19/10/12 14:25, John Clegg a écrit :
 
  OK, thanks for that.
 
   Using LO 3.6.2 on Windows 7SP1 (also linux, but let's get it working
  here first!). Connecting to a database on xeround.com (actually hosted
 on
  Amazon EC2 servers, using port 18993. JDBC driver
  class com.mysql.jdbc.Driver using mysql-connector-java-5.1.22-bin.jar
 
 
  Can you connect to that instance via the mysql client program from the
  command line interface and edit data in your tables on the remote
 instance ?
 
  mysql -h myhost -P myport -d mydb -u myuser -p mypassword
 
 
  Alex
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

[jomali]

But Ooo/LO does use structure markup. All .odt/.ods documents are XML files.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:

   Everything that you get from LaTeX: structure markup instead of
   spaghetti formatting, parameterized formatting, etc...
  
   Instead of clicking through dozens of dialogboxes for each and every
   line of text, slide title, list item, figure, etc. to get
   everything the way you want it, you just change a few parameters
   once for the whole document and that's it.
 
  LibO/OOo already provides this. As did MS Word 5.x for DOS around
  1994.

 MS Word 5.0 for DOS was published in 1989. As the first document
 processing software in history that couldn't print. Because MS was
 unable/too lazy to supply printer drivers in time for the release.

  It's called styles. Which incidentally don't provide only
  formatting information, but also tell the word processor where that
  particular paragraph (or title) sites in the document hierarchycal
  structure.

 The point with MS Word, as (unfortunately) with LO Writer is, that,
 unlike e.g. Wordperfect or FrameMaker their document model is thoroughly
 unstructured (spaghetti), and the way styles are implemented they do
 not allow to emulate structure markup convincingly.

 As soon as you try to author significantly complex documents with it you
 will notice this. At least if you've ever done similar work with
 document processing software that does allow to use structure markup.

 I've used over a dozen different document processing applications over
 the past 20 years, and from day one I have always used structure
 markup without even knowing about the expression since for me it was
 just the natural way to work with documents, but I've never used a
 document processing software that made structure markup as thoroughly
 impossible as MS Word or LO/OO.

   I just cited LaTeX as one example for structure markup. Other
   examples are Wordperfect or Framemaker. My point is that LO should
   not keep the MS Office-style spaghetti content models that were
   already outdated in the 80s and pile up features on top, but
   instead LO should focus on providing a functional concept that
   allows users to work with documents in a more structured and thus
   more efficient way. MS Office is by far the worst example in the
   market. And, as such, the example *not* to follow.
 
  Are you complaining that OpenDocument format (which not long ago
  became an ISO standard) uses a spaghetti content model ?

 Unfortunately, LO/OO is just a 1:1 clone of MS Office. And yes, the MS
 document model is plain spaghetti, as is LO/OO's. It's a pity, but
 that's the way it is and that's why currently I don't use LO Writer for
 anything else than for converting .doc files to .pdf.

 The problem with Calc is the same, btw: Instead of cloning a good,
 well designed example (i.e. Lotus Improv), it is just a 1:1 clone of the
 worst spreadhseet available, i.e. Excel (what an orwellish branding).

 Sincerely,

 Wolfgang


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: IPad?

[jomali]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.comwrote:

 At 08:50 10/05/2012 -0400, Jomali Noname wrote:

 I just open the .docx in LibO, manipulate it in LibO, save it as .odt and
 send it back to them as .doc. They never notice, and then it's a .doc
 forever.


 This not a foolproof solution.  There are new functionalities in Word 2007
 and 2010, of course, that can be saved in .docx but not in .doc format.  If
 the originator of your document has used any of these (whether or not they
 understand the problem) some facet of their document will be missing when
 you return it to them.  In this case they will notice.  They might not
 understand how, but they will know that you broke their document!

 Brian Barker


Maybe so, but it hasn't been a problem yet!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: IPad?

[jomali]

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:33 AM, The Wolfkin wolf...@gmail.com wrote:

 i think i wasn't quite clear on this.. but my annoyance wasn't with people
 using Word. I get that. Believe me I fully understand how complicated it is
 for people to change the file format. My annoyance was with MS for making
 .docx the default because it means anytime someone sends me something for
 help it's going to be .docx and that's frustrating for me to work with.
 Nothing to do about it.

 I just open the .docx in LibO, manipulate it in LibO, save it as .odt and
send it back to them as .doc. They never notice, and then it's a .doc
forever.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: IPad?

[jomali]

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 Am 02.05.2012 23:38, Mark Stanton wrote:

 Is there a LO for the iPad?

 Mark





 Apple does not allow free software on that platform.


On the contrary. There are many free apps for the iPad.  However, creating
a version of LO compatible with iOS is not a trivial task.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to edit words and phrases in a pdf

[jomali]

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Normally when i open a pdf document in LibreOffice each line of text seems
 to be contained in it's own text-box which i can then move around or
 perhaps delete but i can't seem to edit the words inside the line, eg to
 correct typos.

 Is it possible to edit pdfs in the same way that we can edit Odts?  Do i
 need to add an Extension?


No.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access

[jomali]

Not if you're using a Mac.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 MariaDb could presumably be used instead of MySql or is it important to
 support Oracle?
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 12:33

 On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 09:13 +0100, Tony Sumner wrote:
  On Apr 05, 2012, Mark wrote:
  
  
   One method is to find a decent back end such as MySQL and move
 your table across, while temporarily maintaining your front end
 in
 Access. MySQL has a migration assistant which may help here.
 
  I have developed a scheme for migrating an Access database to MySQL.
  Briefly
1. mdb-export generates a CSV file
2. run a program to convert this into a shell script consisting of
  a set of 'insert into' statements
3. run this in MySQL
  There are some small details on the way. I can post the script and
 program
  if you think it would be helpful
 
  Tony

  MySQL uses the command LOAD DATA to insert data from a text file.
 It must be tab deliminated and have \n for each null value. Can this be
 done with what you are describing?

 --Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] fyi Fw: [MariaDB Announce] MariaDB 5.5.21 beta now available

[jomali]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 MariaDb is to MySql as LibreOffice is to OpenOffice except that MySql is
 still owned by Oracle.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Not quite. LibreOffice is going in the direction of being completely
independent of OpenOffice, while MariaDb remains parasitic on MySQL, as
shown by the recent incorporation of MySQL 5.5 into MariaDb. Also, MariaDb
is available on a much more limited spectrum of target servers (e.g., no
OS-X binaries).

snip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base - Phone book ?

[jomali]

Where do you get that idea? You can create a database using a calc document
as your data source and create queries and forms and reports as you would
with any other data source. Your only restriction is that you can't do data
entry, so any changes have to be made in Calc.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:


 You can export the address book in tab or comma delimited format.  You
 can then import that file into Calc and do whatever you want with it.

 No, you can't do anything with database data in Calc. You can not query
 virtual tables nor can you generate reports nor serial letters. The TB
 export to csv is completely pointless.
 Once you connected a Base document to the address book you have the all the
 contained tables plus the groups defined in TB plus database queries in
 Writer and in Calc for multiple purposes without further export/import
 procedures.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: database or spreadsheet

[jomali]

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker
gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 12/02/2012 23:25, Jay Lozier wrote:

 On 02/12/2012 06:09 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

 On 02/12/2012 01:52 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

 On 08/02/2012 12:57, James Knott wrote:

 Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

 On 07/02/2012 13:03, e-letter wrote:

 It is not known from the original poster _why_ the sheets needed to
 be changed.



 Jeeze. DOES IT MATTER? No of course it doesn't MATTER.



 When you try to provide computer support, you'll often find someone is
 trying to solve the wrong problem. When you know what they're trying
 to do, you are then in a position to help them.

 So, yes it does matter.


  Trust me. I'm NOT asking the wrong question, neither am I trying to
 solve the wrong problem. I am an EXPERIENCED (as in 20 years) user of
 all types of spreadsheet, which if you'd read my other ;posts you would
 see.


 We're not remote-sensing mind-readers.

 James Knott has a very valid point, one which I myself have suffered
 through over the decades: power user or newbie developer has skills
 inadequate to the task, but doesn't know it, so asks How do I snagglethrob
 the doohickey? when the correct question is, What's the best way to make
 *this* report run faster? and so let the Expert possibly come up with an
 idea that the power user never would have thought of.

  I think many of us, including myself, have a tendency to try fitting a
 square peg in a round hole because we know the square peg tool and not the
 round hole tool.

  But the point I made in other posts is that the square peg tool isn't
 necessary - that's why I am using the round-peg tool, and it's nobodies
 business but mine!


 With that attitude, you'll be lucky to get any help at all.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph format problem

[jomali]

That won't help because the end-of-line indication is part of the
structure, not the format of the document.

I'm afraid the only way I've ever found to solve this problem is to put a
second hard return at the end of each paragraph, do a find and replace of a
double hard return, replacing it with QQQ (or some other unlikely to occur
character sequence), then doing a find and replace of single hard returns,
replacing them with nothing, then doing a find and replace on QQQ,
replacing the placeholder characters with hard returns. It's a lot of
manual work, but it works.

jomali

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Calvin Kim cal...@4to14window.com wrote:



 On 02/09/2012 05:46 PM, . wrote:


 On 02/09/2012 05:32 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 00:19, 
 .peace@aleksandrsolzhenitsyn.**netpe...@aleksandrsolzhenitsyn.net
  wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 I have a hundreds of paragraphs that need to be fixed so that they fit
 the width of the pages in which they are located.

 Presently, the paragraphs are about 4 wide and all have the
 non-printing character at the end of each text line that looks like a
 backward letter P with a line next to it.

 Is there a quick way to get rid of this problem?

  It sounds to me that the text came from a hard-wrapped text file (like
 an email). A workaround would be to save the paragraph contents to a
 plain text file, open it in a web browser, and then copy the text from
 the browser. Web browsers treat all whitespace as they would treat a
 space.

  I saved the huge file as Plain Text.txt

 The file was then opened in Firefox but the vast amount of white space
 didn't go away even though I cut and pasted it back into Writer.

 It seems that the character at the end of each line is a carriage return.

 Any ideas what to do now?

  When you paste back into LO. Did you use 'Paste Special'?
 Try 'Paste Special' Ctrl+Shift+V and select 'Unformatted Text'

 cK



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[libreoffice-users] Yippee!

[jomali]

 What a nice present http://www.ladonnawest.com/inf.php?Christmas Hope
u enjoy it!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: deleting hard returns

[jomali]

I'd suggest that, before giving advice, people actually try what they are
suggesting.

In OOo and LO, unlike MSO, paragraphs are designated by surrounding the
text with p/p symbols (like html). As a result, there is no paragraph
mark to search for, and using either ^p or \n in the search field will
give you a search key not found error.

On the other hand, if you ended a line with a Shift-enter, no new paragraph
is created. Instead, a \n symbol is inserted into the text. If you enable
regular expressions and put a \n in the find field, the \n will be found
and can be replaced by anything you like (including nothing).

There is no way I've ever found in OOo or LO to use ^p in the search field.
^p works in every version of MSO I've tried, but not in LO.

I verified what I'm saying by actually trying it in LO 3.4.3

jomali

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Bob Houston bob_hous...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Hi to all,
 I use ^p to designate paragraph returns in LO and I think it works in MS
 Word as well.  I have a need to remove blank lines (empty paragraphs) from
 time to time.
 I search for ^p^p and replace with ^p (the ^ (caret) is above the 6 ).
 I'm not sure what a 'soft return' is, but to take out the hard return and
 just let the text flow, I search for ^p and replace with ' ' (one blank)
 assuming there was no blanks after the .  before the hard return.  If you
 need to take out tabs ^t will work.
  Bob
 Bob Houston eBook Formattinghttp://about.me/BobHouston
 http://facebook.com/eBookFormatting


  Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:47:41 -0800
  From: pedl...@gmail.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: deleting hard returns
 
  Hi Tom and e-letter
 
  I think you both missed step number 2 in Miroslaw's answer
 
   2. In More options check Regular expressions.
 
  Although this is not quite user friendly, it works perfectly and it is
 good
  to know that LO has this feature.
 
  I'm keeping this one on my personal Tips and Tricks list ;)
 
  Thank you, Miroslaw!
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[jomali]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 This is why I   r e a l l y   think that it is time to go to regular
 newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user.

 I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to
 subscribe.  It is not worth the bother!

 Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups?  It just
 seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it.


Absolutely not. I receive and read the e-mail messages and find them very
useful. Like many others on this list, I dislike newsgroups and forums
(fora?). If you like newsgroups, stick to gMane.

jomail



 Dave,



 On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com
 wrote:
  On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote:
   Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing.  I've been subscribed
   to:
   gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation
  
   for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something
   needs to get fixed.
 
  A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were
  changed, and there were acknowledged problems.  Eventually, I had to
  completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything
  working.
 
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  Thunderbird 6.0.2
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Navigator and MS .doc files containing Section Breaks

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Jonathon Waterman
peedyswo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 I need to review a .doc document that was created in MS Word 2007.

 This document contains both Page breaks and Section breaks.

 While I can get the Navigator in LO to GOTO the next page - how can I get
 it
 to GOTO where section breaks were used? I want to be able to jump from one
 section to the next - in this case, each section is a different chapter.

 So far, and maybe I'm not doing it wrong - but LO Navigator does not seem
 to
 recognized the MS Word created Section Breaks.

 What I have tried was, I clicked on Navigator - then the icon to browse
 Sections, and then hit the down arrow.


The concept of Sections in LO/Ooo is completely different from the concept
of Sections in MS Word, which is why you cannot navigate to MS Word
sections. Read up on the differences in Help.


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