I can't say I agree with Virgil. You can't help working with styles. Whenever you create a document, the default set of styles is automatically applied. When you create a numbered or bulleted list, you are applying the associated styles automatically. The other styles (e.g., heading styles) are there for you to use if you need them, no matter how short or one-off your document is. Learning to use the style system pays off handsomely, even if you only need the defaults.
John On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM, anne-ology <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you; your explanation makes sense. > > > > From: Virgil Arrington <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab defaults change when pasting into > Writer from some other applications > To: [email protected] > > > Styles work best if you are creating the same types of documents over and > over again. But, if each document is unique and relatively short, you'll > spend more time setting up your styles than just getting your work done. > > Indeed, one of the drawbacks of using styles is that they take considerable > investment of time and effort to create and/or maintain. To me, the > investment has been worth it, and I would consider it essential to really > good output, but I fully understand when other people say they just want to > get their work done without fiddling with the program itself. > > Virgil > > > > On 11/01/2014 04:19 PM, anne-ology wrote: > > Wow, you're really bringing your students up to date; > > congratulations! > > > > Maybe I should start using 'styles' ;-) > > > > > > > > From: Virgil Arrington <[email protected]> > > Date: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab defaults change when pasting into > > Writer from some other applications > > To: anne-ology <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > > > > > > > On 11/1/2014 9:33 AM, anne-ology wrote: > > > > I agree with your method ... & congratulate you on obviously > being > > > >> a bright teacher. > >> > >> Now ... > >> I'm curiously wondering how using 'styles' differs from the > >> 'select all' then changing the font, or whatever; > >> that method takes me mere seconds as well ;-) > >> > >> Also, I'm curiously wondering what method(s) your students would > >> be > >> using which would take them so long ??? > >> > >> > >> If the *only* thing you want to change is the font document-wide, then > > your > > "select all" method will work. But formatting goes far beyond changing a > > font. > > > > The documents I typically create (as simple as they are) have many > > different types of paragraphs including the following: > > > > - A Title, set in 20 point, bold, Linux Biolinum G, centered, with 12 > > points of white space below the paragraph. > > > > - A Subtitle, the same as the Title, except with 16 point, bold type. > > > > - Several Section Heading paragraphs, each with Linux Biolinum G in ever > > reducing sizes, flush left, with 12 points of white space above the > > paragraph, and with automatic numbering through the Outline Numbering. > > Also, I have them set to "keep with the next paragraph," which is > important > > when creating heading styles to ensure that you don't have a random > heading > > by itself at the bottom of the page with the following paragraph on the > > next page. If I need a "Chapter Title" paragraph, I can create it to > always > > begin on a new page. > > > > - A main Body paragraph, with 12 point Linux Libertine G, set flush left, > > single spaced, with 12 points of white space above it. > > > > - A main Body paragraph, the same as the above, but with an indented > first > > line (2 picas) and no white space above the paragraph. > > > > - Main Body paragraphs set double-spaced for legal briefs and scholarly > > paragraphs. > > > > - A Blockquote paragraph, which is single spaced and indented 2 picas on > > the left margin with additional white space above and below the > paragraphs. > > > > To generate all of this formatting without styles requires the user to > > format each paragraph or set of paragraphs directly, selecting each > > formatting characteristic separately, including font, size, line spacing, > > paragraph indents, and on and on. Doing it directly takes a lot of time, > > and then you have to be careful to make sure all your section headings > are > > formatted consistently (was that 16 points or 18 points?). But, to do it > > with styles is super quick. And the consistency throughout the document > > almost brings tears of joy to my eyes. > > > > Virgil > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
