[libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal

2011-06-11 Thread plino
Hi Cour
(none of the following criticisms are directed at you, who are one of the
few (only?) members of the SC who sees this project as a productivity tool
for the users)

I don't know if you are aware that installing LibO 3.4.0 under Windows
silently uninstalls 3.3 without asking (even if the installer is run in
customized mode). Therefore it is not possible to have both versions
installed under Windows. I know this is possible under Linux but this
project doesn't care a f*ck about Windows users (even though they are the
majority of users, but hey, who cares?) so one can only recommend one
version OR the other.

Given the degree of regression and bugs added (I totally agree with Tom that
3.4.0 sounds more like a beta-release) and that the developers are not too
worried about regressions, in my opinion if someone is using 3.3.2 for work
(and believe me: even if the LO site has a disclaimer about 3.4 being
experimental, all other download sites/mirrors don't, so expect a LOT of
angry users in the near future) I will not recommend 3.4 for anything other
than playing around.

In my opinion, releasing 3.4.0 as Stable was a major error and a shot on the
foot for this project.

But the all-mighty Release Schedule as to be met, no matter what comes out
of it...

Regards,
Pedro

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[libreoffice-users] Re: hide white space

2011-06-10 Thread plino
A quick Google search provides the answer

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/show-or-hide-white-space-in-print-layout-view-HP003072013.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297564

Does anyone know if this feature exists in LO? If not a feature request
could be added ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-08 Thread plino
Hi Stephan

I will test this one later. With don't you simply name the range Jack?
It's much easier to use and modify ;)

I think that there is no need to know the second, third, etc text celss. You
only need to know the first error to go there and fix it. One error at a
time :)

Thanks!

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[libreoffice-users] Release dates/versions

2011-06-08 Thread plino
Can someone explain why  the latest daily build is named

libreoffice-3-4~2011-06-07_11.47.03_LibO_3.4.0rc1_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
?

This was compiled yesterday but it is still named 3.4.0rc1?

Build 3.4.0 final was announced on June 3rd while the files are dated from
May 26th (because the final build is in fact RC2 so there was no point in
re-uploading).

Why rc1?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice

2011-06-08 Thread plino
I just inserted the arrow.svg into a ODS using OOo 3.4 Beta.

The interesting results are:
1) Opening the ODS in LibreOffice shows the blur (while if I insert the svg
in LO it won't)
2) Exporting to PDF has higher quality in LO than OOo

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-07 Thread plino

Jack wrote:
 
 array formulas in LibO/OOo are a little tricky (little more so than in
 Excel).  If you've entered the formula correctly and pressed ENTER
 (instead of CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER), then obviously it does not work.  If you
 then select the cell/formula again and press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER, then it
 *still* won't work, because it doesn't register that you've changed the
 formula (thus won't take the CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER).  You'll need to physically
 change the formula again and then press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER (I usually type
 and erase a space).
 

I pasted your formula so there were no typing errors. Of course that
triggered the bug you have already found a workaround. Well done ;)
But that is definitely a BUG. I have reported it here
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38014
and I will use your explanation to provide further details. Thanks!

Even with the array working it's not detecting non-numeric cells properly.
Can you upload your spreadsheet somewhere so I can see what I'm doing wrong?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread plino
Actually I am almost sure LibreOffice added that feature first

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/new-features-and-fixes/

I don't know if the code was shared with both projects but OpenOffice does
that too :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread plino

Nuno J. Silva wrote:
 
 Like this one?
 
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Arrows_bend.svg
 
 So if I understand you correctly, the blurred shadow is correctly
 imported in OOo.
 

I can confirm that inserting the linked SVG into a OOo 3.4 Beta Writer
document does show up a blurred shadow (looks the same as opening the SVG in
Firefox or Inkscape)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: A huge bug in Calc (writting/reading xls files)

2011-06-07 Thread plino
Hi Ismael

You can't attach files to this mailing list. You have to upload the files
somewhere and post the link here.

LibreOffice 3.4.0 was released on June 3rd. But if someone manages to fix
the bug you are reporting it will be incorporated in a future release
(3.4.1, 3.5.0,etc )

In any case bugs that apply to a single file format (i.e. don't apply to all
file formats) are not considered a priority.

Version 3.4.0 is extremely buggy. I would advise you to test and use
3.3.3RC1

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Manager disc usage

2011-06-07 Thread plino
From my experience and from reports here at the Users list, the MS filters
are much more stable in version 3.3.x

If you want to test a new version I would recommend 3.3.3RC1

(Go to Download, Pre-Releases on the libreoffice.org site)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-06 Thread plino
Nabble just LOOKS like a forum.

Functionally, it's not. You have to subscribe to each section because each
is a separate mailing list.

If Mono works in the same way, then it's not an alternative.

Please TDF consider setting up an OFFICIAL forum!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-06 Thread plino
Hi Jack

I couldn't make it work. In fact I just found out that array functions don't
work in Lib (3.3 or 3.4) nor in OOo (3.4 beta)

I don't know if it ever worked (I use it every now and then, so I couldn't
say if I used it before in OOo/LO) but if it did, someone broke it :)

Another bug to fix for 3.5 :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-04 Thread plino

Caesar wrote:
 
 On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:10:39 -0700, Robert Holtzman lt;hol...@cox.netgt;
 
Which is precisely the reason I dislike forums. Way too many brainless
questions from users (and I use the term loosely) who barely know how to
turn on their computer. 
 
 +1 on that.  They certainly don't know how to read simple unsubscribe
 instructions.
 

So, you two guys stick to the mailing list. 

Those who are brave enough will bother to answer the brainless questions.

 I think that a project that wants to be an alternative to MS Office can not
afford to snob on anyone.

(In fact that shouldn't happen in any project, but that is just my opinion)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino
It must be a new feature :)

I advise you to test 3.3 RC1 and update to 3.3 when it is released. Version
3.4 is not ready for real work as stated in the release announcement

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/The-Document-Foundation-announces-LibreOffice-3-4-0-tt3019206.html

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino
Actually I had never noticed that spreadsheets (all including Excel) ignore
text values mixed with numbers. This worries me a lot!

I work with 300.000+ line spreadsheets and if one line has a text value
(because of a typo) I wouldn't notice that.

Is there any setting that triggers a warning (instead of ignoring the
cell(s)) in this situation?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino

Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 
 If you use count on a range it only counts numeric cells, but 
 counta counts numeric and non-empty cells, so if they don't give 
 the same results for the same range, there is an error?
 

Yes, that would work but it forces me to do this verification for each
column. And still it won't tell me where the error is (although I can find
it with some filters)

It would be much better if there was some AI in these functions warning me
that Data in Cell A12345 is not a number.  What do you want to do? A) Jump
to cell A12345 and manually fix it or B) Ignore this warning and Sum all
other cells?

Why not use the computing power of the PC to help us?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino

Brian Barker wrote:
 
 One useful facility in this case is Value Highlighting.  Go to View | 
 Value Highlighting or press Ctrl+F8.  The font colour for text 
 (temporarily) becomes black, for numbers and other values blue, and 
 for formulae green.  (Formulae should be no problem, since it's 
 possible to construct them sufficiently carefully that you can be 
 sure of the type of the result, of course.)  Repeat the process to 
 toggle the facility back off.
 

I didn't know that. Could be useful sometime ;)

If I wanted to visually check I would use Conditional formatting and set
Font to Red and Bold and the Background to Bright Yellow :)

But as you said, I really don't want to browse 300.000 lines to spot errors
;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: no 3.4.0 Windows all-language link

2011-06-03 Thread plino
No, it's not.

The branch 3.4 no longer has the ALL Languages pack.

This means there is only one pack for Windows users: the Multi pack which
includes all languages that are still maintained (many of the languages had
been so neglected that most of the items were in English, so they were
removed).

Hope this helps ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-03 Thread plino
Hi Tom ;)


Tom Davies wrote:
 
 Some kind user did kindly develop a Forum but people here seem more
 interested 
 in creating blockages and creating restrictions rather than diversifying
 to suit 
 a variety of different people's needs.
 Relax bud and have a good weekend :)
 

I'm not stressed ;) Just saying that there should be an Official Forum for
those who prefer it, and maintain this mailing list for those who prefer it.

(Actually I think someone did build a Drupal site which included all tools
but it was rejected by the SC or some members)

There is no point in arguing which is best. It is better to offer
alternatives IMO.

Have a great weekend too ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: TDF - Novos membros em 31-05-2011

2011-06-03 Thread plino
I agree with you Vitorio.

The list should in fact be sorted alphabetically (I think that the date is
irrelevant)

I would suggest that a third column with Nationality should be added just to
show off how international this project is ;)

Greetings from the other side of the Atlantic ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-02 Thread plino
It is benevolently moderated in the sense that real spam and commercial
spammers are eliminated. 

But I haven't noticed any post from a real user being eliminated or any user
banned.

I guess some of the off-topic can be annoying but that is the price of
freedom of speech ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue

2011-06-01 Thread plino

Earl Melton wrote:
 
 I thought Lotus 1-2-3 used the Shift+2 (or @ character), i.e.,
 @SUM(A1..A12). 
 Did I think wrong? Maybe we're talking about different flavors of Lotus.
 Or 
 maybe I'm having another one of those darned senior moments.
 

No you didn't. It was my mistake (I noticed the minute I posted and since
this isn't a forum I couldn't edit it :) ). I meant using + to start a
formula. Lotus functions started with an @ indeed (which on the Portuguese
keyboard is Alt Gr + 2 :( )

In any case, people who used Lotus (for DOS) are entitled to forget some
things :)

Have a great week! ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue

2011-05-31 Thread plino
You can use an old school trick: type +1/3 ;)

(In fact Lotus used + as an indicator for a formula which was much more
practical than = since it's already on the Num Pad... But everybody started
following Excel... :( )

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Dollars Cents in Spreadsheet

2011-05-30 Thread plino

Cor Nouws wrote:
 
 Simply FormatCells
 Or via the Styles window (F11) you can also define styles for 
 (different) cells
 

That wouldn't work, Cor ;)
It's not a question of formatting. The OP wants to type 123 and for the cell
to display $1.23

The only solution I can see is to have a column where you type the values
with no point (e.g. 123, 300, 98) and have it divided by 100 in  another
column and formatted as currency. These calculated values can even be on a
separate worksheet so that you have one column for quick data entry and
another worksheet where all is presented neatly :)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Dollars Cents in Spreadsheet

2011-05-30 Thread plino
 (can even give a clumsy work around).


If it's better than having calculations in another column, please do.
I could use a trick that saves me from typing the dot (because I often type
the dot twice and then have to go back to correct it...)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Dollars Cents in Spreadsheet

2011-05-30 Thread plino
:)

In fact, after a quick search in Google, I found out that there is such a
feature in a competing product ;)
http://www.teachexcel.com/excel-help/ev.php?i=2957

Maybe this could be added as a feature request for Calc?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation

2011-05-29 Thread plino
Excellent post, Alexander.

I agree that it is essential to have written rules of what to expect and
what not to expect from a project.

I totally disagree with LO's philosophy of Even if we broke something we
might not fix it but it is better to know that than for users to complain
and demand pointlessly.

And the advice for people to get support from LO supporting companies is
also an excellent point.

I think TDF should use your post to make things clear to everybody instead
of leaving it all in the grey area

Kudos!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word?

2011-05-27 Thread plino
Are you aware that, at least
in Win. that you can move between documents using Alt+tab? I find that much
faster than trying to use a mouse. If you have a bunch of tasks running
it's
not so handy, but normally you are only switching between a few windows and
it is very quick. 

Are you aware that if you press Ctrl+Tab you can do the same between
documents (or tabs) within the same program? :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word?

2011-05-27 Thread plino
@toki, thank you for the tip.

The extension does work with LO version 3.4. It's a shame it has no options.
I would rather have the tabs on top (like in Firefox :) )

Maybe one of the developers (I heard there are nearly 200 :) ) can do a
quick fix to this extension ;)

It would surely be useful when I have 6 or 7 spreadsheets open at once...

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[libreoffice-users] Yay! Parallel dev builds at last :)

2011-05-26 Thread plino
Actually for a few days now (since the 19th)

You can get an installer (for Windows and Mac currently) for the current
code on the master (trunk).

Browse here
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/

This includes the fix that allows to install a dev version simultaneously
with a stable build.

WARNING: this is available for en_US only. If you need a localized version
stick with the 3.4 branch

Congratulations to Dev Team for listening to the users!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: set page number

2011-05-26 Thread plino
Format, Page, Sheet tab, in the Page Order section change First Page Number
to 26 ;)

Enjoy ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Odt size difference between MS Office 11 and LO 3.3.2

2011-05-25 Thread plino
The simple explanation is that the MSO file is missing many ODF features ;)

Interestingly both your files fail the ODF validation on this site

http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/

Does it make any sense that only when I create an identical file under OOo
3.4 Beta the file is valid?

Should LibreOffice worry about this?

Is the validator an accurate tool? Shouldn't OASIS be providing such a
tool???

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Odt size difference between MS Office 11 and LO 3.3.2

2011-05-25 Thread plino
Hi Tom ;)

If you re-write the document from scratch using exactly the same formatting
 in
 both then i would guess that LibreOffice generates the best and possibly
 smallest .odt.


I did. It is not :) Since the MS ODF is so incomplete it manages to be the
smallest. And the OOo file is the second smallest (and in addition, valid!)

My only concern here is that TDF makes sure that the ODF files created with
LibreOffice are valid. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

And since Oracle seems to be dropping the ball on OpenOffice it would make
sense to have a validation tool on the TDF or LibreOffice site (I wouldn't
wait for OASIS...)

MSO's odf is inherently broken apparently (as mentioned fairly often by a
 variety of people) so it's not really a fair contest.  A broken jug in
 millions
 of pieces can take up a lot less space than a full jug but it probably
 can't
 hold water.


TBH I'm glad that MS Office 2007/2010 even has ODF support. Of course they
aren't going to make it that good... After all it is in their best interest
that you use their proprietary file formats :)

Cheers!


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Odt size difference between MS Office 11 and LO 3.3.2

2011-05-25 Thread plino
But, it is clear that

 OOo/LO could use some 'fine tuning' in the file size/image
 compression/conversion area - at least with respect to Impress. If I get
 time  if it is interest to anyone I can just build a 1 slide Impress
 presentation using the extracted .ppt jpg  compare. I've only MS Office
 2003 on a virtual machine, so I wouldn't be able to test with anything
 later in that department.


I don't mind doing a comparison if you post a link to the PPS file.

But this only has any usefulness if LO developers consider that optimizing
the ODF files is an interesting task.

Otherwise it's an academical waste of time ;)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Odt size difference between MS Office 11 and LO 3.3.2

2011-05-25 Thread plino
Hi Gary

I don't have a link for it - M. Henri Day sent it to me directly. But
 I'll be happy to email it to you if you'd like. Note: I had to do
 considerable timing adjustments to get it to sync with the external .wav
 file in order to get it to work in OOo with gstreamer.


I meant upload it somewhere and send me the link :)
But email is fine.

I'm a Windows user so I hope it will be considerably easier to handle the
pps ;)

Cheers,
Pedro


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Test for Error Conditions in Calc

2011-05-24 Thread plino
Here is an example:

=IF(ISNA(A1); None; A1)

See the Information Functions on this page for more
http://www.techonthenet.com/excel/formulas/index.php

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: [tdf-announce] failure notice

2011-05-23 Thread plino
This is a polite way of telling you that you were NOT selected as one of the
ESC members :)

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[libreoffice-users] RE: using libre office with portable apps

2011-05-20 Thread plino
Probably the files in the pen are badly fragmented.

Since that is a pen (and not a hard disk) the easiest, fastest and most
efficient way to defrag is simply to MOVE all contents to a folder in
another disk (preferably a HDD) and then move them back.

Since files are moved sequentially they will be written in consecutive
clusters and therefore defragmented.

HTH ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: lower part of dialog boxes not visible

2011-05-18 Thread plino
Hi NoOp


 You didn't say he was what? It is helpful if you'd quote what you are
 replying to. Snipping is good, but simply replying without some quote 
 attribution isn't helpful - particularly if someone is sorting through
 the archives.


I didn't snip anything. I simply replied through Nabble, which doesn't quote
or append the message I'm replying to. Since it works in Threads my answer
was linked to your post
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/lower-part-of-dialog-boxes-not-visible-tt2951830.html#none
To answer as I am doing now, I have to use Gmail which for me is not so
practical ;)

We finally figured out that Thomas is using the 'Medium - 125%' setting
 in Win7 (Control Panel|All Control Panel Items|Display). There is a
 warning when setting that in Win7, it states:
 quote
 Some items may not fit on your screen if you choose this setting while
 your display is set to this resolution
 /quote


Actually many (all?) Asus netbooks use this setting as default. So they will
not see that warning :)


 Did/can you replicate on a netbook? I can't on an HP Mini
 w/Win7-Starter. If you can, then I agree  it would be a good idea for
 you to file a bug report.


Since the extended dialog is well over 500 pixels high I know it won't fit
at least on any of the 7 inch netbooks which have a screen resolution of
800x480. On 10 inch netbooks it will depend on the DPI (as you mentioned)
but also on the Theme font size

Of course LO can't predict all these situations but in this particular case
there is a lot of vertical space wasted on the dialog which could be
optimized.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: lower part of dialog boxes not visible

2011-05-18 Thread plino


  In the Ubuntu version of LibreOffice, some of the taller dialogs have
  been rearranged so the bottom half is to the side, so they fit better
  into a widescreen display such as found on many netbooks and laptops.
  (PDF Options is an example.) AFAIK, the standard version of LibO
  (downloaded from the website) does not use this side-by-side layout.

 Great to know - thanks for sharing !
 (I usually work with all kind of betas and test stuff, hardly with
 default installed versions.)

 Would be good to have that in the vanilla LibreOffice too, IMO


That is really interesting. It shows that Ubuntu has people concerned and
working on usability.

Since that is a modification of the open source code (and since Canonical IS
a LO Supporter) shouldn't these modifications be contributed back to the
source repository (or whatever the name is) in the spirit of Open Source
Software (maybe it is and it's not incorporated?)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: lower part of dialog boxes not visible

2011-05-18 Thread plino
Hi again Thomas

I think this is a pretty good solution:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/fp-winmngr/

Just download and unpack the program in any folder. Execute FP Windowmanager
and press the Hide button. From now on, to move the top window anywhere just
press Win+Alt+Cursor keys

It does work perfectly with the LO Find  Replace dialog ;)

(I apologize for recommending Winsize 2 without testing it first... I
couldn't make it work...)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: lower part of dialog boxes not visible

2011-05-18 Thread plino
  Of course LO can't predict all these situations but in this
  particular case there is a lot of vertical space wasted on the dialog
  which could be optimized.
 ...

 Agree.



Just for fun I re-organized the dialog (this is a mock-up screen)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2347109/Find_Replace.png

Without too much effort I was able to reduce nearly 100 pixels in the 500
pixels high dialog ;)

Now we just need a developer to do the same in the code :)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: lower part of dialog boxes not visible

2011-05-17 Thread plino
@Thomas

You can use this Open Source program to solve your problem

http://winsize2.sourceforge.net/en/index.html

But I think that the options in the dialog should be rearranged. There is a
lot of empty space on the dialog and this creates a problem with low
resolution devices such as netbooks.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: lower part of dialog boxes not visible

2011-05-17 Thread plino
@NoOp

I didn't say he was. I said this should be fixed because this will affect
netbook users (and it is quite easy since there is a lot of wasted space on
the dialog)

Maybe Thomas is simply using a Theme with a Large Font...

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Draw extra slow with 4 slides

2011-05-14 Thread plino
I assume you are adding notes to a PDF (since you mention Adobe Acrobat)

Since you are using Windows I would recommend for such a task the free
program PDF Xchange Viewer.

It is a lightweight PDF reader with annotation tools. The advantage over
Draw is that it doesn't convert the PDF. The disadvantage is that you are
adding object over the PDF (so you can't actually modify the objects in the
PDF, if that is important for you).

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[libreoffice-users] Re: No Help

2011-05-08 Thread plino
Hi Jeff

The help pack is in a separate RPM.
If you go to http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ and choose Linux x86 there
are two downloads: the 147Mb installer which you already have, and a 8.6Mb
helppack.

Just get this and install it (don't ask me how because I'm a Windows user :)
)

Enjoy ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Pronunciation of LibreOffice in English

2011-05-08 Thread plino
Actually if you read Libre as a Spanish word (instead of French) then the
closest pronunciation for English speakers is probably Lee-Brea : Lee as
Bruce and Brea as the word Bread but without pronouncing the final d

This means that there are (at least) two correct pronunciations :)

Just my 2 cents ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening/converting a Lotus wk4 file for Calc?

2011-05-06 Thread plino
FYI Symphony doesn't open Lotus spreadsheets (to Lotus users dismay)

According to this page I found, Openoffice 3.2 does?
http://www.ehow.com/how_6462332_convert-wk4-xls.html

Then LO should do it too...

(Can you link to one of this files?)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening/converting a Lotus wk4 file for Calc?

2011-05-06 Thread plino
I use Gnumeric and I couldn't find any information on opening wk4. It does
mention that it opens wk1 and wks but I suspect that wk4 is quite different.

Yes, there is a Windows version and it is kept up-to-date. TBH if Gnumeric
had a Pivot Table/Data Pilot function it would be light years ahead of Calc
;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening/converting a Lotus wk4 file for Calc?

2011-05-06 Thread plino
I'm glad you solved your problem ;)

That is why Microsoft makes sure that it is easy to get and use irregular
copies: when other programs fail you can always go back to MS Office :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: .docx can't be read

2011-05-05 Thread plino
Could this be simply because LibO (and OOo) is not handling correctly windows
OLE objects in the docx format?

See my post on the previous page (on the nabble site for this topic) about
Equations.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: List of download mirrors

2011-04-30 Thread plino
I have been looking for such a page for ages. Thanks!

It would be easier to find a mirror if they were simply sorted
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[libreoffice-users] Re: -convert-to command line option on Windows

2011-04-27 Thread plino
There is no problem with this function if you use the installed LibreOffice.

The problem is that you are passing the parameters to the PortableApps
executable which is probably not passing it correctly to soffice.exe

So, if you intend to use the Portable LOffice you need to report this to
whoever is creating the portable version ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Chart how to

2011-04-27 Thread plino
CohoMike, actually if you do that in Excel and open the file in Calc, the
Chart tab will show up as a regular spreadsheet tab  with a large chart on
top of the cells :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Chart how to

2011-04-27 Thread plino
If you used Excel you would know what CohoMike is talking about.

Excel allows to create a special type of Sheet named Chart where the only
object is a Chart using data from one of the other Sheets. It is
particularly useful when you have large spreadsheets with many tabs. It
makes it easy to locate a chart and it is very easy to switch to/from this
mode and to create Chart tabs.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Opening a PPS file in not-presentation mode

2011-04-19 Thread plino
Double clicking a PPS opens the file in slideshow as expected.

The problem is that starting Impress and then opening a PPS file should open
it in Edit mode (as PowerPoint does).  

Instead it opens it in slideshow mode and closes Impress on ESC. This is
indeed a bug which makes it impossible to edit a PPS file (without using the
rename hack which is not a solution ;) )

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Update Mechanism

2011-04-19 Thread plino
Hi Arief

Yes, it is planned but there is no schedule for when it will be available

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/update-service-td2479818.html

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ellison's Oracle washes hands of OpenOffice

2011-04-18 Thread plino
@Wayne

I think that the BEST option would be to have 3 options available: 1)
Classic menu 2) Ribbon and 3) the Future ;)

(By the Future I'm referring to this topic
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Impressive-mockups-td2389105.html)

The UI could be selected on first use (or later in some configuration
option) by presenting the user with a screenshot of each of the
possibilities ;)

Returning to the topic, I think that if there isn't a paid version with
professional support, the future looks dark for OOo/LO. 
So, Oracle dropping support for OOo is extremely bad for LO as well.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Spreadsheet Problem

2011-04-17 Thread plino
It's hard to guess what happened to the file or what format it is in...

If the data is not confidential, please upload it somewhere (e.g.
http://depositfiles.com/en/) and post the link here.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ellison's Oracle washes hands of OpenOffice

2011-04-16 Thread plino
Good morning Tom ;)

Although I agree with most of your arguments, Microsoft's position on Office
has changed a lot lately.

First it is almost impossible to buy a new Win7 machine which doesn't have
some version of Office bundled. It varies from a Trial version to a Starter
version and sometimes even the whole Office is included.

On a second (and probably more important) front, Microsoft silently retired
the Office Genuine Advantage check which prevented illegal copies to be
updated
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/microsoft-quietly-shuts-down-office-genuine-advantage-program/2798

I think that Microsoft is taking measures to prevent it's users to shift to
an Open Source Office suite ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: Importing multiple pictures, one per slide?

2011-04-07 Thread plino
This add-on does exactly what you asked and works perfectly under LibreOffice
3.3.2 (tested in Windows XP)

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/PhotoAlbum

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Calc very slow and freezes

2011-03-21 Thread plino
Gnumeric supports up to 16777216 lines (yes, 16 million...)

Maybe you are using an older version. The current build is 1.10.13

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Day zero is 1904-01-01 for new spreadsheets

2011-02-27 Thread plino
This is puzzling: 

if day Zero is 0-Jan-1900 and day 1 is 1-Jan-1900 for Excel and day Zero is
30-12-1899 and day 1 is 31-12-1899 for both  LibO 3.3.1 and OOo Dev101, how
come =now() returns the same value in both spreadsheets?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Day zero is 1904-01-01 for new spreadsheets

2011-02-27 Thread plino
Very interesting, Andreas.

Today I learned something about leap years thanks to you ;)

http://kalender-365.de/leap-years.php

I'm glad I don't have any time series of data going back to the 19th century
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc trumps Excel

2011-02-26 Thread plino
T.R. Valentine

When you open a tab delimited file in Excel it automatically recognizes the
data types. Therefore your string e.g. 2011-02-26 10:23:47 is correctly
interpreted as a value. Therefore it is natural that using FIND, VALUE, LEFT
or any other functions would not work.

As I said in the previous post you need to use other functions.

LibO and OOo don't have any problem with tab delimited files. The only
difference is that you can not Open a tab delimited file (otherwise it is
loaded in Writer). You need to Insert, Sheet from File.

Luuk

Indeed there is a lot of work... I just found another bug: typing =now() in
a cell shows the value instead of a date (of course you can format it
yourself...)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc trumps Excel

2011-02-26 Thread plino
That doesn't make any sense, does it? The format of the values depends on the
width of the cell??? 

There are only two logical options: 1) the cell width is automatically
adjusted to show the whole data (as Excel does) or 2) the data is correctly
formatted (in this case in the DATE TIME format) and only part is shown
(depending on the width of the column). The user must manually adjust the
column width.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc trumps Excel

2011-02-26 Thread plino
Hi Tom

I'm sorry to say but you are wrong on this one. LibO and OOo don't
auto-resize but Excel does.

Just type =now() on any cell and watch one of the reasons why Excel is the
number one spreadsheet bar none ;)

Cheers,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc trumps Excel

2011-02-25 Thread plino

VALUE and TIMEVALUE apply to TEXT strings ONLY both in Excel and LibO

If you want to parse a value field you have to use different functions

How did you import the Tab delimited file to LibO?
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Missing function: Bankers Rounding

2011-02-19 Thread plino

What I meant was:  if the original numbers have a mixed number of decimal
cases you can't apply my solution because of the base 2 calculations.

But I assume that in a table you don't have values with 3 decimal cases
mixed with one decimal case?

Therefore you could go from 4 decimal cases to 1 in 3 steps using my
method...


In any case, the short answer is: there isn't such a round function in any
of the 3 spreadsheets.

Apparently the round() function in Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) does
a bankers' rounding.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.excel.charting/msg/107fce6145b70d69?pli=1

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Missing function: Bankers Rounding

2011-02-18 Thread plino

I had never heard of bankers rounding before. Interesting concept.

There is no such function in OOo/LO, Excel or Gnumeric...

But you can easily create a function

=IF(A1-INT(A1)=0.5;IF(ISEVEN(INT(A1));A1-0.5;A1+0.5);ROUND(A1))

(Adjust if your separator is a comma instead of a  semi-colon)

What this does is check if the fractional part is 0.5 and adds 0.5 to the
number if the integer is odd and subtracts if it is even. If  it is not 0.5
then it uses the regular Round() function ;)

Hope this helps!
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-16 Thread plino

Yes, that does work.

But I was looking for a solution that didn't involve manually downloading,
unpackaging, etc... In theory, adding the PPA options would not only install
the current version but also allow updates when available.

What puzzles me is that unless Hit means something different, most of the
folders and files are there, except for Packages.gz

Am I correct?
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Open pps as ppt

2011-02-16 Thread plino

I did try and the result is the same (starts Slideshow). In any case even if
that did work it would be a workaround, not the expected action ;)
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[libreoffice-users] Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-15 Thread plino

I'm an advanced Windows user but absolute Linux newbie.

I was trying to install Libreoffice under Ubuntu Netbook Edition 9.10 (the
only version that has drivers for my eeePC netbook) following these
instructions
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/new-ppa-makes-installing-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-easy/

But got this error messages
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install libreoffice 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release.gpg

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release.gpg 

Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release 
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release.gpg  
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release 
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages  
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/restricted Sources
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages
  404  Not Found
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/multiverse Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/universe Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Sources
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/restricted Sources
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 
404  Not Found

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
used instead.


I suppose this means there is a specific build for Karmic (something similar
as a specific build for Windows 2000) but not all needed files are available
for that specific OS version?

Thank you in advance for any help ;)
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Open pps as ppt

2011-02-14 Thread plino

There is indeed a bug (or at least a different behaviour from MS Office and
OOo) with .pps files

If a user double clicks or opens with a pps file with MS Powerpoint or LO
Impress it is supposed to autostart the presentation.

However if you open Powerpoint and use File Open to open the pps file it
does so in Edit mode. OOo Impress does the same

LO Impress does not. Opening a pps file immediately enters presentation mode
and pressing Esc to stop, exits LO Impress.

It is arguable to say that this is a bug. But it is not the expected
behaviour.

(this was tested under Windows XP SP3 with OOo 3.3.0 and LO 3.3.1 RC1)
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc

2011-02-12 Thread plino

I have four comments on relative paths in OOo/LO:

1) It doesn't work. I changed to relative paths, created a new file with a
relative path, moved both files (source and reference) to another drive and
it kept looking for the file in the original location

2) It doesn't make any sense to save a path as relative and show it as
absolute

3) It doesn't make sense that the option is called Save URLs relative to
file system. I consider myself an advanced user and I would never consider
that this option refers to the location of files my PC. URLs are usually
associated (maybe incorrectly) with resources on the web. In any case it's
not an obvious name.

4) It doesn't make any sense that the OOo/LO default is the opposite of what
users are expecting. If OO / TDF want to create an alternative to the
established Office they should follow the same functionality, improving but
not disrupting.
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[libreoffice-users] RE: Poor formatting and extremely slow performance

2011-02-11 Thread plino

I know this won't help a bit, but it looks as bad under OOo 3.3.0, OOo 3.4.0
m99 and Abiword (all under Windows XP SP3)

If these files are not meant for editing I advise you to export to PDF using
the fantastic FLOSS program PDF Creator.

(BTW the reason most documents work in MS programs is that they have relaxed
rules i.e. ignore errors instead of pointing them out :) )
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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread plino

 IMO the project has the potential to become internationalized.

Are you joking? I can't even understand why the other national teams aren't
taking advantage of this initiative!

Congratulations!

I hope others will follow the German example!

(I'm curious: why is the Slimcase Inlay so low res? Isn't the original an
SVG like for the labels? Can someone post the original?)
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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread plino

Hi Stefan, indeed much better.  I can see now why the original is not shared
;)

In any case you should replace those low res labels ASAP ;)

Here is a much nicer PNG (BTW I have no idea why the corner crop marks grow
inside the light green area in your PDF...)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2347109/libo_dvd_inlet_feb2011_01.png



Thank you for the link, Marc. I can see there are a lot of proposals... :)

Cheers,
Pedro
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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread plino

Yes, you are right. I failed to notice the _de detail but if you read this
thread you are now aware that there is a wiki page on this subject ;)

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing#Documents_and_Resources
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc too slow in opening Excel spreadsheets

2011-02-08 Thread plino

Yes, this has been reported. The problem is not restricted to the xls
format...

See a similar topic

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Why-is-LO-OOo-so-slow-loading-a-spreadsheet-td2006665.html

Cheers,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libreoffice and openoffice issues

2011-01-25 Thread plino

Yes, they are.

And in my (short) experience here at LibreOffice they seem to be more
efficient in solving bugs than the guys at OO.org

That doesn't mean it will be fixed tomorrow ;)

In any case there is a separate bug tracker for LO here
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to sort this dataset in Calc?

2011-01-18 Thread plino

Actually it does work. Just select columns A and B and press the sort icon or
choose Data, Sort for more options.

The only situation where LO and OOo don't accept whole columns is in cell
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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to sort this dataset in Calc?

2011-01-18 Thread plino

Stefan, you can either move the cell or use Data, Sort instead.

I prefer to see the options I'm choosing instead of relying on focus.

Regarding selecting only one column, currently LO and OOo have the same
behaviour as Excel 2003 (I refuse to use newer versions): ask if the user
wants to expand the selection. Which I think is the best solution: ask the
user instead of trying to guess what s/he is doing...
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[libreoffice-users] Dictionaries and Language Packs

2011-01-13 Thread plino

I'm currently installing RC3 (under Windows) and something puzzles me: why is
the list of dictionaries available different from the language packs?

If there is some criteria for including languages in the multi package,
shouldn't it be consistent? E.g. I can choose the Portuguese language pack
but not the Portuguese dictionary. On the other hand I can choose the
Portuguese (Brazil) language pack but the dictionary is for Brazilian
Portuguese

I know that the multi package is temporary due to space restrictions but as
we move up the RC ladder (I know that OOo is currently on RC9) shouldn't
this start to be fixed?
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Including a ods in a odt

2011-01-08 Thread plino

No, it's not equal at all. Your data will be updated dinamically as you
modify if it the ods file.
There is no similarity with a static HTML table.

I'm glad I could help ;)
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Including a ods in a odt

2011-01-07 Thread plino

You can include up to 4000 rows (do you think you will have more than that?)
and it will always be updated. 

Before delivering the report you just need to delete the lines in excess (or
leave them in...)

The other option (mail merge) I was suggesting would require one page per
post instead of a table...
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Including a ods in a odt

2011-01-06 Thread plino

I'm not sure I understand your problem, but if you would refer to the ODS
cells in the ODF document like a mail merge then you could create a document
which will have all your up-to-date cell contents when you print it to a
final document (in addition to what you type in the ODF document, of course)

The only limitation I could find is that you need to have one post per
column and you are currently limited to 1024 columns in the ODS format
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Including a ods in a odt

2011-01-06 Thread plino

Actually that is not what I imagined from your first post.

I thought it would be a spreadsheet with a single column used where each
line would be a new post to your journal. 

Maybe you can upload an example of the ods (two lines of fake data are
enough) and what you expect the final odf to look like (a table within the
text? a quoted post?)

I'm not sure what you mean with merged text: something like C1 cell content
is =A1B1 ?
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Including a ods in a odt

2011-01-06 Thread plino

I thought it was something more complex :)

The easiest way to include it is to open the ods file, select the cells with
data and then switch to the Appendix and choose Paste Special, DDE Link.

From now on, each time you open the file it will ask you if you want to
Update all links. 

You should keep the ods and odf files on the same folder.

Unfortunately relative paths doesn't work (or I can't find the option to
activate it) so you must always work on the same drive and folder otherwise
the table won't be updated.

Hope this helps...
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Including a ods in a odt

2011-01-06 Thread plino

I thought it was something more complex :) 

The easiest way to include it is to open the ods file, select the cells with
data and then switch to the Appendix and choose Paste Special, DDE Link. 

From now on, each time you open the file it will ask you if you want to
Update all links. 

You should keep the ods and odf files on the same folder. 

Unfortunately relative paths doesn't work (or I can't find the option to
activate it) so you must always work on the same drive and folder otherwise
the table won't be updated. 

Hope this helps...

NOTE: I'm not sure if the DDE Link option is available under other OSes.
These instructions apply to the Windows version.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Closing LibreOffice results in a crash

2010-12-22 Thread plino

RC2 is already available for download on selected mirrors...

This one for instance
http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/tdf/libreoffice/testing/
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Idea about Ideas

2010-12-21 Thread plino

 I found Ubuntu Brainstorm very dis-satisfying.  The main problem with it
 (imo)
 is that the first few pages are all old ideas that have received a lot of
 votes.



 If the first page had the most easily viable ideas along with the most
 innovative and interesting ideas then it would work a lot better.  The
 problem
 is how could that be automated??


That is quite simple. If the ideas are outdated they should simply be
dismissed by the devs as Outdated :)

The voting process is the most democratic (anyone can suggest an idea) and
the most meritocratic (the best ideas climb to the top independently of who
suggested them)

Of course this forces the devs to take a look at the list, say once a
month, discuss the top 10 items and classify them as Planned, Outdated,
Portponed, Rejected, etc (this is a mix of options available in Dropbox and
Sourceforge)

As soon as an idea is classified as Completed it is archived and the next
most voted idea will rise to the top 10 automagically ;)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: vlookup is hard to use

2010-12-12 Thread plino

This is a know limitation/feature of OpenOffice and now of LibreOffice.

In my opinion it should be modified to make it consistent with other
spreadsheets.

There is no easy way other than to type a high number (currently it can be
as high as 1048576) or to make it faster just type 1 followed by 6 zeros)

This is faster than selecting with the mouse (given the limitation that you
can't simply select a column or row)
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[libreoffice-users] Re: On Applications Exit

2010-11-24 Thread plino

It had already been reported

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31494

and a workaround has already been committed to the branch (meaning it will
be solved in the next build)

Thanks!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: On Applications Exit

2010-11-23 Thread plino

Same here on two machines. Same Win version, same LO build.

Is this an XP problem only? 

LO 3.3 b2 didn't have this bug.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: sum function in libreoffice calc doesn't seem to work

2010-11-05 Thread plino

Bill,  do the cells in the range contain only natural numbers?

I suspect that you are having a problem with the decimal separator.

Your cells are probably identified as text because of that (are the values
aligned to the left?)

Paste this in cell D2 to check
=VALUE(C2)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: sum function in libreoffice calc doesn't seem to work

2010-11-04 Thread plino

Actually it depends on your Language Settings.

And LibreOffice inherited the problems from OpenOffice...

E.g. for Portuguese (European) the decimal separator is a comma(,)  but if I
prefer to use a point (because most international publications are formatted
according to US notation) when I disable the box Same as locale setting it
will type the point and as soon as I press enter it will convert it to a
date. This is a clear mistake since a point is not a separator in
Portugal... i.e. typing 2.3 is converted to 02-03-2010 which is value 40239
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