Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com To: us...@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 9 June, 2011 14:04:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Zak McKracken zak_mckrac...@openoffice.org wrote: Am 08.06.2011, 22:41 Uhr, schrieb Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) In OpenOffice and LibreOffice the Export to Pdf option allows you to choose lossless compression or change the percentage of jpg compression. Yes, but that applies only to raster graphics, not to vector formats. With EPS images, only the preview image will be dumped in the pdf. To summarize: The built-in pdf export preserves my raster graphics but kill EPS images (for me at least. Some people apparently have very hires preview images inther EPSs). printing it .ps file and using ps2pdf will preserve the EPS images and reduce the raster images. This behaviour has not changed since OOo 1.0 It is also an issue in impress, where there is no printing involved. EPS images don't show up, SVG images tend to be horribly broken. Todd Hi :) Is this only problem with 3.4.0? I thought one of the remaining problems was the non-vector images getting compressed so i was hoping to help you get around that. Sorry it didn't help. Good luck and regards from Tom :) I haven't tried 3.4, but the EPS images stopped working in 3.3 and SVG images have never worked. After dicussing the problem, I am not sure how the EPS images ever worked, perhaps they had embedding that was stripped somehow. Of course, using the embedded raster image completely defeats the purpose of using vector artwork in the first place. Most of the programs I use for vector artwork can produce EPS or SVG files just fine, but being able to properly display some sort of vector artwork in impress seems critical to me. Differences in projector resolution can seriously degrade the appearance of raster artwork. Todd Hi :) Have bug-reports been posted? I think the issues are quite important to get fixed. Yes, a bunch: svg (LibreOffice Bugzilla): 36511, 36520, 37895, 37994, 34720, 36154, 36890, 37072, 31460, 33554, 32248 eps (OpenOffice.org Bugzilla): 12059, 117071, 93629, 84177, 24254 The discussion in the first eps bug I listed I took to basically be saying that the developers were happy enough with the existing functionality (rendering previews) so this bug was not going to be fixed, so I never bothered making a new one in the LibreOffice bugzilla. Is there any point requesting support for native eps rendering, or are the LibreOffice developers of the same opinion as the one stated in this bug? -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice
Hi :) Have bug-reports been posted? I think the issues are quite important to get fixed. Yes, a bunch: svg (LibreOffice Bugzilla): 36511, 36520, 37895, 37994, 34720, 36154, 36890, 37072, 31460, 33554, 32248 eps (OpenOffice.org Bugzilla): 12059, 117071, 93629, 84177, 24254 The discussion in the first eps bug I listed I took to basically be saying that the developers were happy enough with the existing functionality (rendering previews) so this bug was not going to be fixed, so I never bothered making a new one in the LibreOffice bugzilla. Is there any point requesting support for native eps rendering, or are the LibreOffice developers of the same opinion as the one stated in this bug? Todd Hi :) I would post again but to the LibreOffice bug-team this time. OpenOffice had different owners and had to deal with different constraints. A high percentage of devs in LibreOffice are new and the ones that aren't have finally been freed to get on with stuff. Regards from Tom :) Done: Bug 38161 So what is the decision on the svg embedding? For me at lest SVG support is even more important than EPS support. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Zak McKracken zak_mckrac...@openoffice.org wrote: Am 08.06.2011, 22:41 Uhr, schrieb Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) In OpenOffice and LibreOffice the Export to Pdf option allows you to choose lossless compression or change the percentage of jpg compression. Yes, but that applies only to raster graphics, not to vector formats. With EPS images, only the preview image will be dumped in the pdf. To summarize: The built-in pdf export preserves my raster graphics but kill EPS images (for me at least. Some people apparently have very hires preview images inther EPSs). printing it .ps file and using ps2pdf will preserve the EPS images and reduce the raster images. This behaviour has not changed since OOo 1.0 It is also an issue in impress, where there is no printing involved. EPS images don't show up, SVG images tend to be horribly broken. Todd Hi :) Is this only problem with 3.4.0? I thought one of the remaining problems was the non-vector images getting compressed so i was hoping to help you get around that. Sorry it didn't help. Good luck and regards from Tom :) I haven't tried 3.4, but the EPS images stopped working in 3.3 and SVG images have never worked. After dicussing the problem, I am not sure how the EPS images ever worked, perhaps they had embedding that was stripped somehow. Of course, using the embedded raster image completely defeats the purpose of using vector artwork in the first place. Most of the programs I use for vector artwork can produce EPS or SVG files just fine, but being able to properly display some sort of vector artwork in impress seems critical to me. Differences in projector resolution can seriously degrade the appearance of raster artwork. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Same-line headings? (feature discussion)
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Ryan Jendoubi ryan.jendo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I've seen in certain textbooks a style where a 'heading' will take the form of the first sentence of a paragraph. This seems impossible to do in LO, since all Heading styles used for Outline purposes are paragraph styles. Is there any way around this? I can't think of one; I think it would be a feature to add. I think it could potentially be achieved by making the 'newline' after paragraph styles optional. I know that could possibly break a lot of logic, but in the process of implementing it it would be interesting to look into another problem people have, whereby they would like the spacing after a paragraph to only appear when the following paragraph is a different style - in essence, to have attributes of paragraph styles conditional on context. It's been noted elsewhere that this ability would remove the need to have a set of three styles for list paragraphs (Start, Cont, End). This is just daydreaming but it seems to me these two features might have some relation to each other. Thoughts? Cheers, --Ryan I think a good solution would be some sort of invisible paragraph break, a break that is interpreted by the program as a paragraph break but doesn't actually show up as a paragraph break in the document. This is also useful, for instance, for captions. Currently the whole first paragraph of a caption is used when generating the list of figures. But this is not a good approach when the figure captions are very long, and especially not when they contain lists of sub-figures. Making it so someone could insert a break that doesn't show up in the document but is interpreted by the program as the end of the paragraph would allow someone to designate exactly where the caption should end without pushing text onto a new line (which can be very ugly). Ideally, to best satisfy your needs as well this could either be inserted after a given character or after a given line (so when characters are pushed onto a new line they automatically get the correct style). -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, planas jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: Todd On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 22:54 -0400, todd rme wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: On 2011-04-28 11:30, todd rme wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote: I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at a particular location. Is there a way to do this? I can only figure out how to set the top. -Todd I must not be understanding your requirement correctly. Are you talking about Writer or Calc. steve Writer, sorry. I want to have the bottom edge of the page number at a particular, consistent location on every page. I can get it to set the top edge easily enough, but I can't figure out how to get it to work for the bottom edge. -Todd I was able to set the page number location by using tab stops and tabbing the number to the stop. My method was to Insert then Footer and accept default Then Insert Page Number I think that got it to work, but I wish there was an option to do it automatically. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Numbering in contents but not body
Hi, is there a way to have a heading that is numbered in the table of contents but is not numbered in the document? So, for instance, the Table of Contents shows 1. Introduction, but the body of the document shows just Introduction? -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering in contents but not body
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Todd, todd rme schrieb: Hi, is there a way to have a heading that is numbered in the table of contents but is not numbered in the document? So, for instance, the Table of Contents shows 1. Introduction, but the body of the document shows just Introduction? There is no direct way, but you can fake it. For example set the number font color to the background color and set the left indent of the heading paragraph to a negative value, in such a way, that it lines up fine to the page text margin. Thanks. Weird that this isn't possible, it seems to be a pretty basic thing. Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote: I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at a particular location. Is there a way to do this? I can only figure out how to set the top. -Todd I insert a frame in the footer and put the page numbers in that to control position. Not sure if that is what you mean. steve That requires either getting the frame aligned to the bottom of the footer or the text aligned to the bottom of the frame. I can't figure out how to do either. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Align text to bottom of footer
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: On 2011-04-28 11:30, todd rme wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: On 28/04/11 10:21 AM, todd rme wrote: I want to have the bottom of the pager numbers in the footer to be at a particular location. Is there a way to do this? I can only figure out how to set the top. -Todd I must not be understanding your requirement correctly. Are you talking about Writer or Calc. steve Writer, sorry. I want to have the bottom edge of the page number at a particular, consistent location on every page. I can get it to set the top edge easily enough, but I can't figure out how to get it to work for the bottom edge. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] set which part of a caption is actually a caption
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi todd, todd rme schrieb: Is there a way to tell libreoffice where the caption text ends? For example, say I have a caption like such: Figure 1: This is my figure. After making the caption, I add this: Figure 1: The is my figure. A: part 1. B: Part 2 I only want the part I made first to be considered the caption, but any text I add after that is automatically included in the caption as well. So when I try to make a list of figures using the built-in indexes and tables tool, the captions are all 2 or 3 lines instead of 2 or 3 words. Is there a way to tell it to only count a certain portion as the caption? You have to set the additional text into a new line in the caption. Kind regards Regina Is there any other way? It looks awful like that, especially when one word of the caption is on the next line. Then I end up with a line with only one word in it. Is there some sort of separator that doesn't actually cause a line break but is interpreted as a line break for formatting? Sort of like the opposite of ctrl+shift+enter? -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Non-printing page label for table of contents
Hi, I am making a table of contents. I want to have labels for pages, but have those only only appear in the table of contents (they should not be visible on the page they are labeling). I would like these to stick with the content, so if I add a page before a page with a label, the label is moved down one page as well. Is there a way to do this? I tried using a frame and setting it to hidden, but the text in the table of contents was blank. I don't want to manually put custom lines in the table of contents, since that will break if I add or remove changes. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] set which part of a caption is actually a caption
Is there a way to tell libreoffice where the caption text ends? For example, say I have a caption like such: Figure 1: This is my figure. After making the caption, I add this: Figure 1: The is my figure. A: part 1. B: Part 2 I only want the part I made first to be considered the caption, but any text I add after that is automatically included in the caption as well. So when I try to make a list of figures using the built-in indexes and tables tool, the captions are all 2 or 3 lines instead of 2 or 3 words. Is there a way to tell it to only count a certain portion as the caption? -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Different outline numbering in table of contents and document
In my document, I have 3 level of numbering for headings: I. Level 1 1. Level 2 A. Level 3 to make it easier to follow, I made level 3 like show the last two levels I. Level 1 1. Level 2 1.A. Level 3 this works fine for the body, where people can lose track of where they are. But it doesn't make sense for the table of contents. Is there a way to make the table of contents look like the first case but make the headings in the body of the document look like the second case? -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
