Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font
I use the Ubuntu OS, and I have noticed that the Default font setting is Ubuntu which got me to thinking. Is Base using the OS font settings? It seems that it is. I changed the Ubuntu OS font settings from Ubuntu to Liberation Sans and then checked the default fonts in Base. They also were changed to Liberation Sans. So, change your OS fonts to what you want the Base fonts to be. --Dan On 01/12/2013 07:48 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I am not well versed in the Styles department, but that may be more towards what you want. Make a style and use it to make Base workings use a font style. Yes, there has to be a Font control for Base. There is a Font settings for HTML, Basic, and SQL sources under Tools Options LibreOffice Fonts Have you looked there to see if changing that from Automatic to a specific font name and size will work for you? I am just wondering if Base would use the default font setting for Basic and SQL. On 01/12/2013 07:27 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Tom, I was able to multi-select the controls and change the font as you suggested. Using ctrl-shift-click also only selected the control, not the captions, however, I can see that getting tricky if the controls and their captions are all over the form, as mine are. If they were all in one or two columns, that would be easy. This procedure may be a work-around. Ummm. Changing the default font is a wish-list or feature request? Not being able to do so sounds more like a bug or a slip-up to me. There is also the matter of being able to change back to the default. IMHO, what should be done is to enable the toolbar font styles and/or font selection when a control is selected. They seem pretty useless otherwise. Thanks fro the help. Girvin Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmm, so perhaps an Enhancement Request (wish-list or feature-- request) might be a good idea with the request asking for the fonts to be in Tools - Options - Base It 'should' be possible to select quite a few elements on a Form or Report and change various things for all those that are selected. In Access i think i used to be able to select an area and any controls that were completely inside the area would be selected. Any that were partly outside wouldn't be. I think Shift click and Ctrl click also resulted in selecting more than 1 element at a time. Dunno if it works and even if it does work i dunno if it actually helps. Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: LibreOffice Users users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013, 21:24 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font Tom, I don't think I am over-complicating it. Here is what I found: In Tools - Options - Writer - Basic fonts, I have Default listed as Liberation Sans, Size 12. (This is correct, for my Writer.) In the example Base form I mentioned, when I have no control selected (edit mode) , the toolbar shows Default, DejaVu Serif, size 12.If I select a control the toolbar options are greyed out and in the control's properties dialog under Font, it lists (Default), and when I click on the [...] button to the right to get the font selection dialog, it first highlights DejaVu Sans, with size of 10. I am assuming that since it is highlighted first, it is what (Default) is set to. These are three different fonts! So, your comment that Base does not have a separate default font does not appear true. Base does not seem to track the Writer Default font as its (Default) font. Keep in mind, this form was created way back with an early version of OpenOffice, probably 2.4, so these font definitions may be embedded in the form file somewhere from then. However, the form's (Default) font should be changeable somewhere, as is Writer's, since it can't seem to be changed in the Base form's style dialog. I just had another idea and looked at the form's character style (no control selected). There is a Default character style, but when I right-click on it, all I get is New, no Modify option. Weird! In the big picture, what I am trying to do is change (Default) to the font I want without changing each and every one of the numerous controls in numerous forms that I have. That will be painful, as I discovered already on one form, which I will have to return to (Default) when I learn the secret of changing the (Default) font. That is why I asked question #2 - how to return a control font to (Default) after is has been changed to something else. Thanks. Girvin Herr Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Are you over-complicating the default font? Tools - Options - Writer - Basic Fonts should set the defaults for most things. There isn't a different one for Base. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Girvin R
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font
Hi :) Ahah, trust Dan to know the answer :D Feature-request, wish-list and enhancement-request are all the same thing. Different projects prefer different terms and i can never remember which is the one that gets used in LibreOffice so i just try to cover the most likely choices. I guess ideally i would prefer it if it did use the fonts set in Writer by default but would also allow Styles (so i guess the style called default or body-text would be the one set in the Writer section Tools - Options - Writer - Basic fonts but it would make even more sense if the options in there were moved to Tools - Options - Fonts I wonder why that hasn't been done already though? There might be a really good reason why not. So, the way i see uit there are perhaps 3 or 4 enhancement-requests (or whatever) that might be worth posting. I don't think any count as proper bugs and i wouldn't want to put it on tooo high a priority because there are a lot more serious issues that would be best done sooner. At least this issue is just cosmetic. For example better back-ends and tighter integration with more back-ends would be great (apparently the people from postgresql (and the liaison chap) here did a great job and Alex sorts out MySql/MariaDb quite often). Pruning Base right back to get rid of some of those troublesome wizards would be fantastic. Regards from Tom :) From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2013, 11:26 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font I use the Ubuntu OS, and I have noticed that the Default font setting is Ubuntu which got me to thinking. Is Base using the OS font settings? It seems that it is. I changed the Ubuntu OS font settings from Ubuntu to Liberation Sans and then checked the default fonts in Base. They also were changed to Liberation Sans. So, change your OS fonts to what you want the Base fonts to be. --Dan On 01/12/2013 07:48 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I am not well versed in the Styles department, but that may be more towards what you want. Make a style and use it to make Base workings use a font style. Yes, there has to be a Font control for Base. There is a Font settings for HTML, Basic, and SQL sources under Tools Options LibreOffice Fonts Have you looked there to see if changing that from Automatic to a specific font name and size will work for you? I am just wondering if Base would use the default font setting for Basic and SQL. On 01/12/2013 07:27 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Tom, I was able to multi-select the controls and change the font as you suggested. Using ctrl-shift-click also only selected the control, not the captions, however, I can see that getting tricky if the controls and their captions are all over the form, as mine are. If they were all in one or two columns, that would be easy. This procedure may be a work-around. Ummm. Changing the default font is a wish-list or feature request? Not being able to do so sounds more like a bug or a slip-up to me. There is also the matter of being able to change back to the default. IMHO, what should be done is to enable the toolbar font styles and/or font selection when a control is selected. They seem pretty useless otherwise. Thanks fro the help. Girvin Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmm, so perhaps an Enhancement Request (wish-list or feature-- request) might be a good idea with the request asking for the fonts to be in Tools - Options - Base It 'should' be possible to select quite a few elements on a Form or Report and change various things for all those that are selected. In Access i think i used to be able to select an area and any controls that were completely inside the area would be selected. Any that were partly outside wouldn't be. I think Shift click and Ctrl click also resulted in selecting more than 1 element at a time. Dunno if it works and even if it does work i dunno if it actually helps. Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: LibreOffice Users users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013, 21:24 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font Tom, I don't think I am over-complicating it. Here is what I found: In Tools - Options - Writer - Basic fonts, I have Default listed as Liberation Sans, Size 12. (This is correct, for my Writer.) In the example Base form I mentioned, when I have no control selected (edit mode) , the toolbar shows Default, DejaVu Serif, size 12. If I select a control the toolbar options are greyed out and in the control's properties dialog under Font, it lists (Default), and when I click on the [...] button to the right to get the font selection
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font
On 01/11/2013 09:28 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am running Base in LO 3.6.4.3. In a form, I am trying to change the (Default) font without any progress. I do not know where this (Default) font setting is located and the styles icon on the toolbar, along with the font window on the toolbar are grayed out if I have a control selected. They are not grayed out if I do not have any control selected and then I can change the Default style font to another font. However, when I select a control, the control properties dialog still has (Default) selected and the font displayed in the control is not the font I changed to in the style dialog. Does anyone know where to set the font assigned to the (Default) font? Second, related question: Once the control's font is changed in the control properties dialog to something other than (Default), how does one get it back to (Default)? The (Default) option is not available in the font selection dialog. Thanks in advance. Girvin Herr Tools Options LibreOffice Writer Basic Fonts (Western) It shows: Default Heading List Cation Index You can change the font name and size. Just make sure you press the Default buttonif you want to change the default font so it will be the new one next time you open LibreOffice. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font
Hi :) Are you over-complicating the default font? Tools - Options - Writer - Basic Fonts should set the defaults for most things. There isn't a different one for Base. Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: LibreOffice Users users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013, 2:28 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font Greetings, I am running Base in LO 3.6.4.3. In a form, I am trying to change the (Default) font without any progress. I do not know where this (Default) font setting is located and the styles icon on the toolbar, along with the font window on the toolbar are grayed out if I have a control selected. They are not grayed out if I do not have any control selected and then I can change the Default style font to another font. However, when I select a control, the control properties dialog still has (Default) selected and the font displayed in the control is not the font I changed to in the style dialog. Does anyone know where to set the font assigned to the (Default) font? Second, related question: Once the control's font is changed in the control properties dialog to something other than (Default), how does one get it back to (Default)? The (Default) option is not available in the font selection dialog. Thanks in advance. Girvin Herr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font
Tom, I don't think I am over-complicating it. Here is what I found: In Tools - Options - Writer - Basic fonts, I have Default listed as Liberation Sans, Size 12. (This is correct, for my Writer.) In the example Base form I mentioned, when I have no control selected (edit mode) , the toolbar shows Default, DejaVu Serif, size 12. If I select a control the toolbar options are greyed out and in the control's properties dialog under Font, it lists (Default), and when I click on the [...] button to the right to get the font selection dialog, it first highlights DejaVu Sans, with size of 10. I am assuming that since it is highlighted first, it is what (Default) is set to. These are three different fonts! So, your comment that Base does not have a separate default font does not appear true. Base does not seem to track the Writer Default font as its (Default) font. Keep in mind, this form was created way back with an early version of OpenOffice, probably 2.4, so these font definitions may be embedded in the form file somewhere from then. However, the form's (Default) font should be changeable somewhere, as is Writer's, since it can't seem to be changed in the Base form's style dialog. I just had another idea and looked at the form's character style (no control selected). There is a Default character style, but when I right-click on it, all I get is New, no Modify option. Weird! In the big picture, what I am trying to do is change (Default) to the font I want without changing each and every one of the numerous controls in numerous forms that I have. That will be painful, as I discovered already on one form, which I will have to return to (Default) when I learn the secret of changing the (Default) font. That is why I asked question #2 - how to return a control font to (Default) after is has been changed to something else. Thanks. Girvin Herr Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Are you over-complicating the default font? Tools - Options - Writer - Basic Fonts should set the defaults for most things. There isn't a different one for Base. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net *To:* LibreOffice Users users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Saturday, 12 January 2013, 2:28 *Subject:* [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font Greetings, I am running Base in LO 3.6.4.3. In a form, I am trying to change the (Default) font without any progress. I do not know where this (Default) font setting is located and the styles icon on the toolbar, along with the font window on the toolbar are grayed out if I have a control selected. They are not grayed out if I do not have any control selected and then I can change the Default style font to another font. However, when I select a control, the control properties dialog still has (Default) selected and the font displayed in the control is not the font I changed to in the style dialog. Does anyone know where to set the font assigned to the (Default) font? Second, related question: Once the control's font is changed in the control properties dialog to something other than (Default), how does one get it back to (Default)? The (Default) option is not available in the font selection dialog. Thanks in advance. Girvin Herr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Base: Changing restoring (Default) font
Greetings, I am running Base in LO 3.6.4.3. In a form, I am trying to change the (Default) font without any progress. I do not know where this (Default) font setting is located and the styles icon on the toolbar, along with the font window on the toolbar are grayed out if I have a control selected. They are not grayed out if I do not have any control selected and then I can change the Default style font to another font. However, when I select a control, the control properties dialog still has (Default) selected and the font displayed in the control is not the font I changed to in the style dialog. Does anyone know where to set the font assigned to the (Default) font? Second, related question: Once the control's font is changed in the control properties dialog to something other than (Default), how does one get it back to (Default)? The (Default) option is not available in the font selection dialog. Thanks in advance. Girvin Herr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
