Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Drop Caps pre-dates printing and wikipedia shows an example c.200 on papyrus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial
but i found this link easier to make sense of
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/04/03/drop-caps-historical-use-and-current-best-practices/

Apparently in the early days of printing they would leave a space for the 
letter and an illustrator could be hired to carefully create the letter after 
the book had been printed and sold!  Some were a lot more ornate than others!  
In web-design we sometimes do roughly the same nowadays with that first letter 
being an image that the text wraps around.  Of course it's a lot easier 
nowadays and it's easier to replace the image if it looks a bit wrong and tehre 
are other ways of doing it.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





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> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013, 21:27
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer
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>On 01/27/2013 03:35 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
>> At 14:07 27/01/2013 -0500, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
>>> I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it seems 
>>> mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style does not 
>>> seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I misunderstanding 
>>> something here?
>> 
>> I'm guessing here, but I think I can see its usefulness.  You set drop caps 
>> as a property of your paragraph or paragraph style, of course.  You may not 
>> wish the dropped cap to have the same character style as the rest of the 
>> paragraph text.  So the Drop Caps tab of the Paragraph or Paragraph Style 
>> dialogue gives you the opportunity to select a separate character style to 
>> be applied to the dropped caps themselves.  I'm guessing that the Drop Caps 
>> character style is provided as a convenient style to use for this purpose: 
>> you can select it in the paragraph or paragraph style properties and then 
>> set the character properties that you want in the Drop Caps character style.
>> 
>> You could alternatively create your own character style(s), of course.  But 
>> that's true of all the predefined styles.
>> 
>> I trust this helps.
>> 
>> Brian Barker
>
>I have seen this done with books. the take the first character of the first 
>paragraph of a chapter and use a larger or different font style of character.  
>They have been doing this thing since the early days of printing.  Some people 
>call this "type" of thing "illumination" or something like that.  Many times 
>the that first character is in color or some really fancy font style [as we 
>call it now].
>
>There are some really interesting things that can be done with Writer and its 
>font/text styling, but I know only a few of them.
>
>Sometimes it is easier for me to do it with graphic images or changing the 
>font, but sometimes it is harder that way.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 01/27/2013 03:35 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 14:07 27/01/2013 -0500, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


I'm guessing here, but I think I can see its usefulness.  You set drop 
caps as a property of your paragraph or paragraph style, of course.  
You may not wish the dropped cap to have the same character style as 
the rest of the paragraph text.  So the Drop Caps tab of the Paragraph 
or Paragraph Style dialogue gives you the opportunity to select a 
separate character style to be applied to the dropped caps 
themselves.  I'm guessing that the Drop Caps character style is 
provided as a convenient style to use for this purpose: you can select 
it in the paragraph or paragraph style properties and then set the 
character properties that you want in the Drop Caps character style.


You could alternatively create your own character style(s), of 
course.  But that's true of all the predefined styles.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


I have seen this done with books. the take the first character of the 
first paragraph of a chapter and use a larger or different font style of 
character.  They have been doing this thing since the early days of 
printing.  Some people call this "type" of thing "illumination" or 
something like that.  Many times the that first character is in color or 
some really fancy font style [as we call it now].


There are some really interesting things that can be done with Writer 
and its font/text styling, but I know only a few of them.


Sometimes it is easier for me to do it with graphic images or changing 
the font, but sometimes it is harder that way.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:07 27/01/2013 -0500, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


I'm guessing here, but I think I can see its usefulness.  You set 
drop caps as a property of your paragraph or paragraph style, of 
course.  You may not wish the dropped cap to have the same character 
style as the rest of the paragraph text.  So the Drop Caps tab of the 
Paragraph or Paragraph Style dialogue gives you the opportunity to 
select a separate character style to be applied to the dropped caps 
themselves.  I'm guessing that the Drop Caps character style is 
provided as a convenient style to use for this purpose: you can 
select it in the paragraph or paragraph style properties and then set 
the character properties that you want in the Drop Caps character style.


You could alternatively create your own character style(s), of 
course.  But that's true of all the predefined styles.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread Kevin O'Brien

On 01/27/2013 03:10 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

On 01/27/2013 02:07 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


Thanks,



What are you trying to do?

subscript of a smaller sized character or do the same with a full size 
character?


Uncheck the "Automatic" box next to the "Raise/lower by" box.

The full size character will lower the given persentage with the 
"Subscript" option checked


Ah, thank you. All of that was turned off, but your directions showed me 
how to modify the style to do what I wanted.


Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 01/27/2013 02:07 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it 
seems mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style 
does not seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I 
misunderstanding something here?


Thanks,



What are you trying to do?

subscript of a smaller sized character or do the same with a full size 
character?


Uncheck the "Automatic" box next to the "Raise/lower by" box.

The full size character will lower the given persentage with the 
"Subscript" option checked.





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[libreoffice-users] Drop Caps Character Style in Writer

2013-01-27 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I was working on understanding Character Styles in Writer, and it seems 
mostly straightforward. But I noticed that the Drop Caps style does not 
seem to do anything at all. Is that a bug or am I misunderstanding 
something here?


Thanks,

--
Kevin B. O'Brien
zwil...@zwilnik.com
http://google.me/+kevinobrien


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