Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Robert M McClure]

Same as before System: AMD64 processor, 16GB memory, Windows 7 64 bit 
(up to date), LibreOffice Version: 6.0.3.2 (x64), Firefox 60.0.1 (64-bit).


Bob McClure


On 6/8/2018 12:03 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 08:10:33 -0700
Robert M McClure  wrote:


The Control-C copy failure is beginning to bother me. After I
downloaded the latest version of Firefox I say no failures for a full
day. This morning the failure began again. So I decided to run some
tests. Here are the results:

Please remind us again exactly what operating system and program
versions you are using, and which desktop, if the question makes sense.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[libreoffice-ml . mbourne]

Robert M McClure:
I can assure you that the reported problem, ie, Control-C not copying. 
Is NOT a hardware problem. On my machine it appears to happen quite 
regularly under the following circumstance. Firefox is displaying a web 
page. Control-C click on the URL bar. Open a Writer window. Paste 
(Control-V). This ALWAYS works. Select some text in the Firefox page. 
Control-C click. Go to the Writer page. Paste. About 90% of the time the 
result is the previously copied URL. However, if in the Firefox page, 
you click on Edit, and then Copy, and then paste in the Writer Document, 
it is correct. I have performed this experiment (and similar ones) 
enough times to definitely rule out a keyboard problem on my machine. 
There is something strange in the interaction between Firefox and 
Writer. I have tried the same experiment with the Opera browser and do 
not see this problem.


Not sure if it's the case here, but I have noticed that some 
applications can sometimes take a bit of time to actually perform the 
copy. Particularly with large graphics or a lot of complexly formatted text.


After a failed paste, if you wait 10 seconds or so and try to paste 
again (without copying again) do you then get the expected content pasted?


It could be that Firefox is just taking a while to actually copy the 
content to the clipboard, and in the meantime the clipboard is giving 
you what it currently has. Although there might not appear to be a lot 
to copy, some web pages include a lot of images or are very heavy on 
formatting markup, CSS, JavaScript and suchlike which might perhaps slow 
down the copy. Conversely, a URL is plain text and very short in 
comparison, so does not incur a noticeable delay.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Dave Howorth]

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 08:10:33 -0700
Robert M McClure  wrote:

> The Control-C copy failure is beginning to bother me. After I
> downloaded the latest version of Firefox I say no failures for a full
> day. This morning the failure began again. So I decided to run some
> tests. Here are the results:

Please remind us again exactly what operating system and program
versions you are using, and which desktop, if the question makes sense.

> Here is my test plan
> 
> Launch: Firefox, Opera, Gvim, Notepad, Writer
> 
> Bring up a page in Firefox and Opera.
> 
> Insert some text in Gvim and Notepad
> 
> Select an item in Firefox, Opera, Gvim or Notepad
> 
> Control-C click on selected item in source
> 
> Go to target (Gvim, Notepad, or Writer) and click Control-V
> 
> Record whether the selected item is pasted (OK) or some previous item
> (Fail)
> 
> For browsers, the selected item will be either from the URL line or
> the body text.
> 
> In the following list:  source   target   success or failure
> 
> 
> Firefox page writer OK
> 
> Firefox URL writer OK
> 
> Firefox page writer OK
> 
> Opera page writer Fail
> 
> Opera URL writer OK
> 
> Opera page writer Fail
> 
> Gvim writer OK
> 
> Notepad writer OK
> 
> Opera page Gvim Fail
> 
> Opera URL Gvim OK
> 
> Opera URL notepad OK
> 
> Opera page notepad Fail
> 
> 
> relaunch Firefox and Opera
> 
> 
> Firefox page notepad OK
> 
> Firefox URL notepad OK
> 
> Firefox page writer OK
> 
> Firefox URL writer OK
> 
> Firefox page writer OK
> 
> Firefox URL notepad OK
> 
> Firefox page notepad OK
> 
> 
> no Fails after about 30 additional random trials
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know what to make of this.
> 
> Bob McClure
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Robert M McClure]

The Control-C copy failure is beginning to bother me. After I downloaded 
the latest version of Firefox I say no failures for a full day. This 
morning the failure began again. So I decided to run some tests. Here 
are the results:



Here is my test plan

Launch: Firefox, Opera, Gvim, Notepad, Writer

Bring up a page in Firefox and Opera.

Insert some text in Gvim and Notepad

Select an item in Firefox, Opera, Gvim or Notepad

Control-C click on selected item in source

Go to target (Gvim, Notepad, or Writer) and click Control-V

Record whether the selected item is pasted (OK) or some previous item (Fail)

For browsers, the selected item will be either from the URL line or the 
body text.


In the following list:  source   target   success or failure


Firefox page writer OK

Firefox URL writer OK

Firefox page writer OK

Opera page writer Fail

Opera URL writer OK

Opera page writer Fail

Gvim writer OK

Notepad writer OK

Opera page Gvim Fail

Opera URL Gvim OK

Opera URL notepad OK

Opera page notepad Fail


relaunch Firefox and Opera


Firefox page notepad OK

Firefox URL notepad OK

Firefox page writer OK

Firefox URL writer OK

Firefox page writer OK

Firefox URL notepad OK

Firefox page notepad OK


no Fails after about 30 additional random trials



I don't know what to make of this.

Bob McClure




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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
That is downright weird.

My ex-boss often used to have troubles using Adobe Pdf-reader to open Pdfs
he'd downloaded with Internet Explorer or that were in his Outlook emails.
Switching either variable - such as still using Adobe Pdf reader but
downloading the file using Firefox, or Chrome worked fine - or the other
way around, taking the already downloaded file and using any other Pdf
Reader (such as Foxit) also worked.  He just couldn't seem to understand
that using stuff that may have been reasonably good a few decades ago is
not necessarily good now (although IE was never good imo).  It's quite
normal to have incompatibility issues when using even just 1 proprietary
product but trying to get 2 to co-operate with each other is not always
easy.  Each one wants to be the dominant program on your system and doesn't
like to share = that's the ethos.

It is unusual to have that sort of problem with OpenSource things because
each thing needs to work smoothly with a wide variety of other tools and
gets it's own major advantages by avoiding being monolithic.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 7 June 2018 at 15:18, Robert M McClure  wrote:

> Yes, I did try renaming the user-profile, to no effect.
>
> However, last night I downloaded the latest version of Firefox (60.0.2)
> and the problem seems to have gone away. I have not yet tried extensive
> testing, but in about 8 tries have not yet gotten a failure. This one
> baffles me.
>
> Bob McClure
>
>
> On 6/7/2018 12:17 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>> Hi:)
>> Here is another "waggle the wires" suggestion...
>>
>> Have you tried renaming the user-profile?
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
>>
>> I've not seen it suggested or mentioned earlier in this thread but I could
>> easily have missed it.
>>
>> Regards from
>> a Tom:)
>>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Robert M McClure]

Yes, I did try renaming the user-profile, to no effect.

However, last night I downloaded the latest version of Firefox (60.0.2) 
and the problem seems to have gone away. I have not yet tried extensive 
testing, but in about 8 tries have not yet gotten a failure. This one 
baffles me.


Bob McClure


On 6/7/2018 12:17 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi:)
Here is another "waggle the wires" suggestion...

Have you tried renaming the user-profile?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

I've not seen it suggested or mentioned earlier in this thread but I could
easily have missed it.

Regards from
a Tom:)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Here is another "waggle the wires" suggestion...

Have you tried renaming the user-profile?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

I've not seen it suggested or mentioned earlier in this thread but I could
easily have missed it.

Regards from
a Tom :)



On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 00:27 Dave Howorth,  wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:18:33 +1200
> Steve Edmonds  wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> > Is this then a problem of Ctl-C not working in Firefox.
> > If you open notepad along with writer and Ctl-V in Firefox, Ctl-C
> > writer, Ctl-C notepad, does paste in notepad work while not in writer.
> > It seems hard to get this issue reproducible.
> > Steve
>
> Note that Robert is using Windows whilst you are using Linux. The copy
> and paste mechanisms are different between Windows and X and whichever
> desktop you are running. It's quite a complex area that's not well
> understood.
>
> > On 07/06/18 05:25, Robert M McClure wrote:
> > > I can assure you that the reported problem, ie, Control-C not
> > > copying. Is NOT a hardware problem. On my machine it appears to
> > > happen quite regularly under the following circumstance. Firefox is
> > > displaying a web page. Control-C click on the URL bar. Open a
> > > Writer window. Paste (Control-V). This ALWAYS works. Select some
> > > text in the Firefox page. Control-C click. Go to the Writer page.
> > > Paste. About 90% of the time the result is the previously copied
> > > URL. However, if in the Firefox page, you click on Edit, and then
> > > Copy, and then paste in the Writer Document, it is correct. I have
> > > performed this experiment (and similar ones) enough times to
> > > definitely rule out a keyboard problem on my machine. There is
> > > something strange in the interaction between Firefox and Writer. I
> > > have tried the same experiment with the Opera browser and do not
> > > see this problem.
> > >
> > > System: AMD64 processor, 16GB memory, Windows 7 64 bit (up to
> > > date), LibreOffice Version: 6.0.3.2 (x64), Firefox 60.0.1 (64-bit).
> > >
> > > And for the record, I have a PhD in Electrical Engineering and
> > > have been designing digital logic, computers, and writing software
> > > since 1957.
> > >
> > > Bob McClure
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/6/2018 3:45 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> > >> On 2018/06/03 17:09, Brian Barker wrote:
> > >>> At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> >  I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to
> >  those described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint
> >  18.
> > 
> >  Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting
> >  text from one slide to another within a single Impress
> >  presentation file. Every now and then, the copy function
> >   does not copy the new text, so that when I press
> >  , instead of getting the text I just copied, I get a
> >  previous copy. It also happened when I tried copying text from
> >  another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of
> > >>> you
> > >>> - and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that
> > >>> your copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards
> > >>> do fail or become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising.
> > >>> Pardon my asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat
> > >>> hair, biscuit crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard?
> > >>> Gravity is effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C"
> > >>> key often? Are you perhaps a member of the Caius College
> > >>> Cambridge Cricket Club?
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of
> > >>> the process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same
> > >>> whether the operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot
> > >>> tell. This is different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit
> > >>> menu disappears when the click is successful, but not otherwise.
> > >>> Similarly, using right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears
> > >>> only when your click is successful. Just test by using either of
> > >>> these techniques instead. If you can reproduce the problem with
> > >>> the *Copy* operation performed in either of these ways, there may
> > >>> be some underlying software problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is
> > >>> simply not working.
> >  I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy
> >  of LO. It not only happened when copying and pasting from
> >  another program to LO, but also from one slide to another within
> >  LO itself. I'll keep an eye on it and try to see any consistency
> >  in the behavior. So far, it has been intermittent.
> > >>>
> > >>> Again, this is all consistent with a hardware problem.
> > >>>
> > >>> I trust this helps.
> > >>>
> > >>> Brian Barker
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Good evening
> > >> I do not want to be awkward, but this behavior seems to affect
> > >> ONLY Libreoffice.
> > >> (it 

Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Dave Howorth]

On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:18:33 +1200
Steve Edmonds  wrote:

> Hi.
> Is this then a problem of Ctl-C not working in Firefox.
> If you open notepad along with writer and Ctl-V in Firefox, Ctl-C  
> writer, Ctl-C notepad, does paste in notepad work while not in writer.
> It seems hard to get this issue reproducible.
> Steve

Note that Robert is using Windows whilst you are using Linux. The copy
and paste mechanisms are different between Windows and X and whichever
desktop you are running. It's quite a complex area that's not well
understood.

> On 07/06/18 05:25, Robert M McClure wrote:
> > I can assure you that the reported problem, ie, Control-C not
> > copying. Is NOT a hardware problem. On my machine it appears to
> > happen quite regularly under the following circumstance. Firefox is
> > displaying a web page. Control-C click on the URL bar. Open a
> > Writer window. Paste (Control-V). This ALWAYS works. Select some
> > text in the Firefox page. Control-C click. Go to the Writer page.
> > Paste. About 90% of the time the result is the previously copied
> > URL. However, if in the Firefox page, you click on Edit, and then
> > Copy, and then paste in the Writer Document, it is correct. I have
> > performed this experiment (and similar ones) enough times to
> > definitely rule out a keyboard problem on my machine. There is
> > something strange in the interaction between Firefox and Writer. I
> > have tried the same experiment with the Opera browser and do not
> > see this problem.
> >
> > System: AMD64 processor, 16GB memory, Windows 7 64 bit (up to
> > date), LibreOffice Version: 6.0.3.2 (x64), Firefox 60.0.1 (64-bit).
> >
> > And for the record, I have a PhD in Electrical Engineering and
> > have been designing digital logic, computers, and writing software
> > since 1957.
> >
> > Bob McClure
> >
> >
> > On 6/6/2018 3:45 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:  
> >> On 2018/06/03 17:09, Brian Barker wrote:  
> >>> At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:  
>  I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to
>  those described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint
>  18.
> 
>  Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting
>  text from one slide to another within a single Impress
>  presentation file. Every now and then, the copy function
>   does not copy the new text, so that when I press
>  , instead of getting the text I just copied, I get a
>  previous copy. It also happened when I tried copying text from
>  another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.  
> >>>
> >>> I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of
> >>> you  
> >>> - and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that
> >>> your copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards
> >>> do fail or become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising.
> >>> Pardon my asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat
> >>> hair, biscuit crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard?
> >>> Gravity is effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C"
> >>> key often? Are you perhaps a member of the Caius College
> >>> Cambridge Cricket Club?
> >>>
> >>> Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of
> >>> the process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same
> >>> whether the operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot
> >>> tell. This is different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit
> >>> menu disappears when the click is successful, but not otherwise.
> >>> Similarly, using right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears
> >>> only when your click is successful. Just test by using either of
> >>> these techniques instead. If you can reproduce the problem with
> >>> the *Copy* operation performed in either of these ways, there may
> >>> be some underlying software problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is
> >>> simply not working. 
>  I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy
>  of LO. It not only happened when copying and pasting from
>  another program to LO, but also from one slide to another within
>  LO itself. I'll keep an eye on it and try to see any consistency
>  in the behavior. So far, it has been intermittent.  
> >>>
> >>> Again, this is all consistent with a hardware problem.
> >>>
> >>> I trust this helps.
> >>>
> >>> Brian Barker
> >>>
> >>>  
> >> Good evening
> >> I do not want to be awkward, but this behavior seems to affect
> >> ONLY Libreoffice.
> >> (it did not bother me for 1-2 weeks now)
> >>
> >> Trying to copy one word selected in a text editor works just fine
> >> in ALL softwares I tried EXCEPT Writer - which insists on
> >> inserting some earlier selection (when it is in the mood to).
> >> How can this be a hardware problem?
> >>  
> >
> >  
> 
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Robert M McClure]

I have tried about a dozen times (about 5 or 6 with Notepad, and a few  
more with VIM) without seeing the failure. As I noted earlier, the  
combination of Opera browser and Libreoffice seems to work for me. Very odd.


Bob McClure


On 6/6/2018 1:18 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.
Is this then a problem of Ctl-C not working in Firefox.
If you open notepad along with writer and Ctl-V in Firefox, Ctl-C  
writer, Ctl-C notepad, does paste in notepad work while not in writer.

It seems hard to get this issue reproducible.
Steve 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
Is this then a problem of Ctl-C not working in Firefox.
If you open notepad along with writer and Ctl-V in Firefox, Ctl-C  
writer, Ctl-C notepad, does paste in notepad work while not in writer.

It seems hard to get this issue reproducible.
Steve

On 07/06/18 05:25, Robert M McClure wrote:
I can assure you that the reported problem, ie, Control-C not copying.  
Is NOT a hardware problem. On my machine it appears to happen quite  
regularly under the following circumstance. Firefox is displaying a  
web page. Control-C click on the URL bar. Open a Writer window. Paste  
(Control-V). This ALWAYS works. Select some text in the Firefox page.  
Control-C click. Go to the Writer page. Paste. About 90% of the time  
the result is the previously copied URL. However, if in the Firefox  
page, you click on Edit, and then Copy, and then paste in the Writer  
Document, it is correct. I have performed this experiment (and similar  
ones) enough times to definitely rule out a keyboard problem on my  
machine. There is something strange in the interaction between Firefox  
and Writer. I have tried the same experiment with the Opera browser  
and do not see this problem.


System: AMD64 processor, 16GB memory, Windows 7 64 bit (up to date),  
LibreOffice Version: 6.0.3.2 (x64), Firefox 60.0.1 (64-bit).


And for the record, I have a PhD in Electrical Engineering and have  
been designing digital logic, computers, and writing software since 1957.


Bob McClure


On 6/6/2018 3:45 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2018/06/03 17:09, Brian Barker wrote:

At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to those  
described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint 18.


Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting text  
from one slide to another within a single Impress presentation  
file. Every now and then, the copy function  does not copy  
the new text, so that when I press , instead of getting the  
text I just copied, I get a previous copy. It also happened when I  
tried copying text from another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.


I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of you  
- and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that your  
copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards do fail  
or become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising. Pardon my  
asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat hair, biscuit  
crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard? Gravity is  
effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C" key often? Are  
you perhaps a member of the Caius College Cambridge Cricket Club?


Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of the  
process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same whether  
the operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot tell. This is  
different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit menu disappears  
when the click is successful, but not otherwise. Similarly, using  
right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears only when your click  
is successful. Just test by using either of these techniques  
instead. If you can reproduce the problem with the *Copy* operation  
performed in either of these ways, there may be some underlying  
software problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is simply not working.


I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy of  
LO. It not only happened when copying and pasting from another  
program to LO, but also from one slide to another within LO itself.  
I'll keep an eye on it and try to see any consistency in the  
behavior. So far, it has been intermittent.


Again, this is all consistent with a hardware problem.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



Good evening
I do not want to be awkward, but this behavior seems to affect ONLY  
Libreoffice.

(it did not bother me for 1-2 weeks now)

Trying to copy one word selected in a text editor works just fine in  
ALL softwares I tried EXCEPT Writer - which insists on inserting some  
earlier selection (when it is in the mood to).

How can this be a hardware problem?







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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Steve Edmonds]

On 06/06/18 22:45, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2018/06/03 17:09, Brian Barker wrote:

At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to those 
described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint 18.


Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting text 
from one slide to another within a single Impress presentation file. 
Every now and then, the copy function  does not copy the new 
text, so that when I press , instead of getting the text I 
just copied, I get a previous copy. It also happened when I tried 
copying text from another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.


I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of you - 
and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that your 
copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards do fail 
or become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising. Pardon my 
asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat hair, biscuit 
crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard? Gravity is 
effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C" key often? Are 
you perhaps a member of the Caius College Cambridge Cricket Club?


Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of the 
process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same whether 
the operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot tell. This is 
different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit menu disappears when 
the click is successful, but not otherwise. Similarly, using 
right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears only when your click 
is successful. Just test by using either of these techniques instead. 
If you can reproduce the problem with the *Copy* operation performed 
in either of these ways, there may be some underlying software 
problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is simply not working.


I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy of 
LO. It not only happened when copying and pasting from another 
program to LO, but also from one slide to another within LO itself. 
I'll keep an eye on it and try to see any consistency in the 
behavior. So far, it has been intermittent.


Again, this is all consistent with a hardware problem.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



Good evening
I do not want to be awkward, but this behavior seems to affect ONLY 
Libreoffice.

(it did not bother me for 1-2 weeks now)

Trying to copy one word selected in a text editor works just fine in 
ALL softwares I tried EXCEPT Writer - which insists on inserting some 
earlier selection (when it is in the mood to).

How can this be a hardware problem?

Hi.I also have experienced the same issue and only with LO, but not 
(touch wood) since the last update from the OpenSuse repository.
Because I use Klipper in KDE everything I select gets put on the 
clipboard. I also use Ctl-Ins/Sft-Ins as that is easier one handed. 
(mouse left hand -  number pad, copy-cut-paste right hand).
I noticed that occasionally nothing pasted after a copy, or very rarely 
something I had copied previously, even from another application but it 
was no issue because I just pasted the copy on Klipper.

steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Brian Barker]

At 10:25 06/06/2018 -0700, Robert M McClure wrote:
I can assure you that the reported problem, ie, Control-C not 
copying. Is NOT a hardware problem. On my machine it appears to 
happen quite regularly under the following circumstance. Firefox is 
displaying a web page. Control-C click on the URL bar. Open a Writer 
window. Paste (Control-V). This ALWAYS works. Select some text in 
the Firefox page. Control-C click. Go to the Writer page. Paste. 
About 90% of the time the result is the previously copied URL. 
However, if in the Firefox page, you click on Edit, and then Copy, 
and then paste in the Writer Document, it is correct.


That was one of the tests I was suggesting, so you have provided new 
evidence. Thank you.


I have performed this experiment (and similar ones) enough times to 
definitely rule out a keyboard problem on my machine. There is 
something strange in the interaction between Firefox and Writer. I 
have tried the same experiment with the Opera browser and do not see 
this problem.


Again, new evidence. I don't have any clever answers.


And for the record, I have a PhD in Electrical Engineering ...


I imagine that there are plenty of people with PhDs who are not 
overly competent with computers! (I've met some.) But - for the 
avoidance of doubt - I was and am in no way suspecting that of you.


Brian Barker  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Brian Barker]

At 19:45 06/06/2018 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2018/06/03 17:09, Brian Barker wrote:

At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to 
those described by Thomas. [...]


I do not want to be awkward, ...


You are not being in any way awkward!

... but this behavior seems to affect ONLY Libreoffice. Trying to 
copy one word selected in a text editor works just fine in ALL 
softwares I tried EXCEPT Writer - which insists on inserting some 
earlier selection (when it is in the mood to). How can this be a 
hardware problem?


In that case, it is not.

(But you don't mention whether you find the same effect with Edit | 
Copy and right-click | Copy as with Ctrl+C.)


Brian Barker 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Robert M McClure]

I can assure you that the reported problem, ie, Control-C not copying.  
Is NOT a hardware problem. On my machine it appears to happen quite  
regularly under the following circumstance. Firefox is displaying a web  
page. Control-C click on the URL bar. Open a Writer window. Paste  
(Control-V). This ALWAYS works. Select some text in the Firefox page.  
Control-C click. Go to the Writer page. Paste. About 90% of the time the  
result is the previously copied URL. However, if in the Firefox page,  
you click on Edit, and then Copy, and then paste in the Writer Document,  
it is correct. I have performed this experiment (and similar ones)  
enough times to definitely rule out a keyboard problem on my machine.  
There is something strange in the interaction between Firefox and  
Writer. I have tried the same experiment with the Opera browser and do  
not see this problem.


System: AMD64 processor, 16GB memory, Windows 7 64 bit (up to date),  
LibreOffice Version: 6.0.3.2 (x64), Firefox 60.0.1 (64-bit).


And for the record, I have a PhD in Electrical Engineering and have been  
designing digital logic, computers, and writing software since 1957.


Bob McClure


On 6/6/2018 3:45 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2018/06/03 17:09, Brian Barker wrote:

At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to those  
described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint 18.


Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting text  
from one slide to another within a single Impress presentation file.  
Every now and then, the copy function  does not copy the new  
text, so that when I press , instead of getting the text I  
just copied, I get a previous copy. It also happened when I tried  
copying text from another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.


I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of you -  
and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that your  
copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards do fail  
or become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising. Pardon my  
asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat hair, biscuit  
crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard? Gravity is  
effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C" key often? Are  
you perhaps a member of the Caius College Cambridge Cricket Club?


Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of the  
process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same whether  
the operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot tell. This is  
different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit menu disappears when  
the click is successful, but not otherwise. Similarly, using  
right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears only when your click  
is successful. Just test by using either of these techniques instead.  
If you can reproduce the problem with the *Copy* operation performed  
in either of these ways, there may be some underlying software  
problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is simply not working.


I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy of  
LO. It not only happened when copying and pasting from another  
program to LO, but also from one slide to another within LO itself.  
I'll keep an eye on it and try to see any consistency in the  
behavior. So far, it has been intermittent.


Again, this is all consistent with a hardware problem.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



Good evening
I do not want to be awkward, but this behavior seems to affect ONLY  
Libreoffice.

(it did not bother me for 1-2 weeks now)

Trying to copy one word selected in a text editor works just fine in  
ALL softwares I tried EXCEPT Writer - which insists on inserting some  
earlier selection (when it is in the mood to).

How can this be a hardware problem?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

On 2018/06/03 17:09, Brian Barker wrote:

At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to those 
described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint 18.


Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting text 
from one slide to another within a single Impress presentation file. 
Every now and then, the copy function  does not copy the new 
text, so that when I press , instead of getting the text I 
just copied, I get a previous copy. It also happened when I tried 
copying text from another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.


I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of you - 
and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that your 
copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards do fail or 
become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising. Pardon my 
asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat hair, biscuit 
crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard? Gravity is 
effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C" key often? Are you 
perhaps a member of the Caius College Cambridge Cricket Club?


Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of the 
process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same whether the 
operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot tell. This is 
different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit menu disappears when 
the click is successful, but not otherwise. Similarly, using 
right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears only when your click 
is successful. Just test by using either of these techniques instead. 
If you can reproduce the problem with the *Copy* operation performed 
in either of these ways, there may be some underlying software 
problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is simply not working.


I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy of LO. 
It not only happened when copying and pasting from another program to 
LO, but also from one slide to another within LO itself. I'll keep an 
eye on it and try to see any consistency in the behavior. So far, it 
has been intermittent.


Again, this is all consistent with a hardware problem.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



Good evening
I do not want to be awkward, but this behavior seems to affect ONLY 
Libreoffice.

(it did not bother me for 1-2 weeks now)

Trying to copy one word selected in a text editor works just fine in ALL 
softwares I tried EXCEPT Writer - which insists on inserting some 
earlier selection (when it is in the mood to).

How can this be a hardware problem?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Virgil Arrington]

On 06/03/2018 04:09 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>> I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to those 
>> described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint 18.
>>
>> Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting text 
>> from one slide to another within a single Impress presentation file. 
>> Every now and then, the copy function  does not copy the new 
>> text, so that when I press , instead of getting the text I 
>> just copied, I get a previous copy. It also happened when I tried 
>> copying text from another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.
>
> I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of you - 
> and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that your 
> copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards do fail or 
> become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising. Pardon my 
> asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat hair, biscuit 
> crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard? Gravity is 
> effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C" key often? Are you 
> perhaps a member of the Caius College Cambridge Cricket Club?
>
> Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of the 
> process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same whether the 
> operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot tell. This is 
> different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit menu disappears when 
> the click is successful, but not otherwise. Similarly, using 
> right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears only when your click 
> is successful. Just test by using either of these techniques instead. 
> If you can reproduce the problem with the *Copy* operation performed 
> in either of these ways, there may be some underlying software 
> problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is simply not working.

Thank you for the suggestions. As to the dirty keyboard, that doesn't 
seem to be the problem. If it were a bad "C" key, I would have problems 
just typing "C" which I don't. If it were a dirty Ctrl key, then I'd 
have a whole host of other problems with Ctrl key combinations, which I 
don't. But, to be safe, I'll clean it out real well, as it has been a while.

I had also tried your other suggestion. This was a few days ago when I 
first reported the problem. What happened then, if I recall correctly, 
is that I was experiencing the copy/paste problems using the keyboard. I 
then tried selecting text and, using my touchpad, I clicked on the Edit 
menu. At that point, the "Cut" and "Copy" options were greyed out. It's 
as if the program didn't recognize that I had even selected the text. I 
believe at the time, I just closed out of LO and restarted it and all 
was well, and since I sent that email, I haven't had any additional 
copy/paste issues.

So, I'll just keep an eye on things to see if the problem comes up 
again. If/when it does, I'll take some very good notes about what I'm 
doing and see if I can figure out some consistent reproducible 
behaviors. As it stands, this just may have just been a one-off 
occurrence that may never repeat itself. I was just excited at the time 
to be able to confirm what Thomas was experiencing.

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Brian Barker]

At 20:50 29/05/2018 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to those 
described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint 18.


Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting text 
from one slide to another within a single Impress presentation file. 
Every now and then, the copy function  does not copy the new 
text, so that when I press , instead of getting the text I 
just copied, I get a previous copy. It also happened when I tried 
copying text from another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.


I have to say that the simplest explanation of this for both of you - 
and consequently the one recommended by Occam - is still that your 
copy operation - using Ctrl+C - failed to happen. Keyboards do fail 
or become unreliable, so this would hardly be surprising. Pardon my 
asking this, but when did you last remove dust, cat hair, biscuit 
crumbs, paper clips, and so on from your keyboard? Gravity is 
effective at adding these items. Do you use the "C" key often? Are 
you perhaps a member of the Caius College Cambridge Cricket Club?


Here's a suggestion. When you use Ctrl+C you see no feedback of the 
process. In other words, the behaviour is exactly the same whether 
the operation has succeeded or failed, so you cannot tell. This is 
different from using Edit | Copy, where the Edit menu disappears when 
the click is successful, but not otherwise. Similarly, using 
right-click | Copy, the context menu disappears only when your click 
is successful. Just test by using either of these techniques instead. 
If you can reproduce the problem with the *Copy* operation performed 
in either of these ways, there may be some underlying software 
problem; if not, your Ctrl+C is simply not working.


I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy of 
LO. It not only happened when copying and pasting from another 
program to LO, but also from one slide to another within LO itself. 
I'll keep an eye on it and try to see any consistency in the 
behavior. So far, it has been intermittent.


Again, this is all consistent with a hardware problem.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Virgil Arrington]

On 05/14/2018 06:44 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> Sorry, most likely my explanation was not good enough.
> So, I will try it again. My home computer is now on 6.0.4 - which did  
> NOT improve things.
> (if anything, the apparent lack of scaling capability for the  
> interface font makes work only harder)
>
> Use any piece of text: let's use A = help / B = rescue
> * Suppose now I have a text editor open and select "A" on the editor  
> screen and press Ctrl+C (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * switch to Writer
> * press Ctrl+V (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * I get "A"
> So far so good.
> * Next I select a different word, like B and perform the same procedure.
> * Having done this a trillion times on "countless" computers using  
> equally "countless" different applications ->
> * I DO expect to get "B" in Writer.
> * However, Writer insists on copying "A". It does not matter how many  
> times I repeat the procedure.
> * This morning it even continued to insist in copying "A" instead of  
> "B" AFTER I shut Writer down and reopened it.
> * When I use the "Ctrl+C" + "Ctrl+V" routine to copy either "A" or "B"  
> into software OTHER than Libreoffice, it works as expected.
>
> I am definitely NOT a computer expert, but I believe I can perform a  
> "copy and paste" action.
> In particular when I do this deliberately and with great care.
> One might argue, that "A" is still on the (Windows) clipboard.
> But if that were true, copying it to other applications should also  
> give me an "A", but I actually get the requested "B".
>
> For that reason I cannot help but assume, that there is something  
> strange going on in Writer.
> While working in Writer I use Calc in parallel to create a list of  
> term and their translations.
> Copying either A or B from other applications into Cals DOES NOT give  
> me this grief. (at least not yet)
> This is a recent event and I don't thing I have had this problem with  
> the computer in my little clinic.
> Even though this may not be any sort of "fatal error", it is  
> nonetheless very annoying during work.
>
> Is this explanation a little better?
> Thomas
>

I am starting to experience more copy/paste issues similar to those  
described by Thomas. I am using LO 6.0.3.2 with Linux Mint 18.

Today, I was working in Impress. I've been copying and pasting text from  
one slide to another within a single Impress presentation file. Every  
now and then, the copy function  does not copy the new text, so  
that when I press , instead of getting the text I just copied, I  
get a previous copy. It also happened when I tried copying text from  
another program (LyX) into my LO Impress.

I must say this is an entirely new behavior for me and my copy of LO. It  
not only happened when copying and pasting from another program to LO,  
but also from one slide to another within LO itself.

I'll keep an eye on it and try to see any consistency in the behavior.  
So far, it has been intermittent.

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Eddie]

Here's a report from LO 6.0.3.2 (x64) on Windows 10, just after a brand
new Spring Update. The copy 'n paste works fine; it even retrieved the
clipboard contents accurately in between two LO sessions. I also have
LO and Windows 10 (without the spring update, so far) on a Surface. I
have never looked for this specific problem, but I proofread several
articles a month for a magazine (and did during LO 5's tenure as well),
and I would have noticed by now if text had gotten spliced into odd
places.

I wish I could give more insight into Thomas's unusual situation. Maybe
the list would like to know if Thomas is running any background
processes/utilities that aren't standard to Windows (like Dropbox, for
example), or any other applications simultaneously with LO?

Eddie

On Mon, 14 May 2018 23:52:45 +0200
"Roy Reese"  wrote:


> Since the problem does not appear on either Mac or Linux, this would
> seem to be specific to the Windows version of LO. I will try to test
> this on the Win7 side of my machine tomorrow. Perhaps some other
> Windows users (especially Win10) could do the same?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Roy Reese]

> A las 12:44 lunes 14 de mayo de 2018 Thomas Blasejewicz escribió:
> De: "Thomas Blasejewicz" 
> 
> In particular when I do this deliberately and with great care.
> One might argue, that "A" is still on the (Windows) clipboard.
> But if that were true, copying it to other applications should also give 
> me an "A", but I actually get the requested "B".
> 
> For that reason I cannot help but assume, that there is something 
> strange going on in Writer.
> 
Since the problem does not appear on either Mac or Linux, this would seem to be 
specific to the Windows version of LO. I will try to test this on the Win7 side 
of my machine tomorrow. Perhaps some other Windows users (especially Win10) 
could do the same?

As I recall from the original post this is an intermittent problem? If that is 
the case, might other processes running be interfering somehow?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Virgil Arrington]

I have had a similar problem, but it's different enough that I doubt 
that they are the same.

I use a Bible program called Xiphos Bible Guide on Linux Mint 18, with 
LO 6.0.3.

Like you, I typically use Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V for copy and paste. I often 
copy and paste Bible verses from the Bible program to LO. I once found 
that, with the first copy and paste using keyboard shortcuts, everything 
went fine, but with the second copy/paste attempt, I would get Bible 
verse "A" rather than Bible verse "B" (using your nomenclature).

What I concluded was that the Bible program wasn't using Ctrl-C with 
successive copy operations. After the first copy with Ctrl-C, and for 
later text copying, I would have to right-click on the selected text and 
mouse-click on "Edit" > "Copy" to get the second copied text to the 
clipboard.

This behavior was consistent no matter what program I was copying to, so 
I concluded that there was nothing wrong with LO.

Virgil




On 05/14/2018 06:44 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> On 2018/05/12 2:11, Brian Barker wrote:
>> At 20:04 10/05/2018 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
>>>
>>> Problem: Select a text portion in one application -> move to Writer 
>>> -> Ctrl+V (paste).
>>
> Sorry, most likely my explanation was not good enough.
> So, I will try it again. My home computer is now on 6.0.4 - which did 
> NOT improve things.
> (if anything, the apparent lack of scaling capability for the 
> interface font makes work only harder)
>
> Use any piece of text: let's use A = help / B = rescue
> * Suppose now I have a text editor open and select "A" on the editor 
> screen and press Ctrl+C (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * switch to Writer
> * press Ctrl+V (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * I get "A"
> So far so good.
> * Next I select a different word, like B and perform the same procedure.
> * Having done this a trillion times on "countless" computers using 
> equally "countless" different applications ->
> * I DO expect to get "B" in Writer.
> * However, Writer insists on copying "A". It does not matter how many 
> times I repeat the procedure.
> * This morning it even continued to insist in copying "A" instead of 
> "B" AFTER I shut Writer down and reopened it.
> * When I use the "Ctrl+C" + "Ctrl+V" routine to copy either "A" or "B" 
> into software OTHER than Libreoffice, it works as expected.
>
> I am definitely NOT a computer expert, but I believe I can perform a 
> "copy and paste" action.
> In particular when I do this deliberately and with great care.
> One might argue, that "A" is still on the (Windows) clipboard.
> But if that were true, copying it to other applications should also 
> give me an "A", but I actually get the requested "B".
>
> For that reason I cannot help but assume, that there is something 
> strange going on in Writer.
> While working in Writer I use Calc in parallel to create a list of 
> term and their translations.
> Copying either A or B from other applications into Cals DOES NOT give 
> me this grief. (at least not yet)
> This is a recent event and I don't thing I have had this problem with 
> the computer in my little clinic.
> Even though this may not be any sort of "fatal error", it is 
> nonetheless very annoying during work.
>
> Is this explanation a little better?
> Thomas
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[jomali]

I just did exactly what you described, using a document in a text editor
and LO 6.0.1.1 on a Mac, and the copy-paste from the text editor to LO
worked perfectly. The second text selected was the text pasted the second
time. I can only conclude that there is something wrong with your personal
setup.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:

> On 2018/05/12 2:11, Brian Barker wrote:
>
>> At 20:04 10/05/2018 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Problem: Select a text portion in one application -> move to Writer ->
>>> Ctrl+V (paste).
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, most likely my explanation was not good enough.
> So, I will try it again. My home computer is now on 6.0.4 - which did NOT
> improve things.
> (if anything, the apparent lack of scaling capability for the interface
> font makes work only harder)
>
> Use any piece of text: let's use A = help / B = rescue
> * Suppose now I have a text editor open and select "A" on the editor
> screen and press Ctrl+C (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * switch to Writer
> * press Ctrl+V (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
> * I get "A"
> So far so good.
> * Next I select a different word, like B and perform the same procedure.
> * Having done this a trillion times on "countless" computers using equally
> "countless" different applications ->
> * I DO expect to get "B" in Writer.
> * However, Writer insists on copying "A". It does not matter how many
> times I repeat the procedure.
> * This morning it even continued to insist in copying "A" instead of "B"
> AFTER I shut Writer down and reopened it.
> * When I use the "Ctrl+C" + "Ctrl+V" routine to copy either "A" or "B"
> into software OTHER than Libreoffice, it works as expected.
>
> I am definitely NOT a computer expert, but I believe I can perform a "copy
> and paste" action.
> In particular when I do this deliberately and with great care.
> One might argue, that "A" is still on the (Windows) clipboard.
> But if that were true, copying it to other applications should also give
> me an "A", but I actually get the requested "B".
>
> For that reason I cannot help but assume, that there is something strange
> going on in Writer.
> While working in Writer I use Calc in parallel to create a list of term
> and their translations.
> Copying either A or B from other applications into Cals DOES NOT give me
> this grief. (at least not yet)
> This is a recent event and I don't thing I have had this problem with the
> computer in my little clinic.
> Even though this may not be any sort of "fatal error", it is nonetheless
> very annoying during work.
>
> Is this explanation a little better?
> Thomas
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

On 2018/05/12 2:11, Brian Barker wrote:

At 20:04 10/05/2018 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:


Problem: Select a text portion in one application -> move to Writer 
-> Ctrl+V (paste).



Sorry, most likely my explanation was not good enough.
So, I will try it again. My home computer is now on 6.0.4 - which did 
NOT improve things.
(if anything, the apparent lack of scaling capability for the interface 
font makes work only harder)


Use any piece of text: let's use A = help / B = rescue
* Suppose now I have a text editor open and select "A" on the editor 
screen and press Ctrl+C (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)

* switch to Writer
* press Ctrl+V (or use the mouse to achieve the same thing)
* I get "A"
So far so good.
* Next I select a different word, like B and perform the same procedure.
* Having done this a trillion times on "countless" computers using 
equally "countless" different applications ->

* I DO expect to get "B" in Writer.
* However, Writer insists on copying "A". It does not matter how many 
times I repeat the procedure.
* This morning it even continued to insist in copying "A" instead of "B" 
AFTER I shut Writer down and reopened it.
* When I use the "Ctrl+C" + "Ctrl+V" routine to copy either "A" or "B" 
into software OTHER than Libreoffice, it works as expected.


I am definitely NOT a computer expert, but I believe I can perform a 
"copy and paste" action.

In particular when I do this deliberately and with great care.
One might argue, that "A" is still on the (Windows) clipboard.
But if that were true, copying it to other applications should also give 
me an "A", but I actually get the requested "B".


For that reason I cannot help but assume, that there is something 
strange going on in Writer.
While working in Writer I use Calc in parallel to create a list of term 
and their translations.
Copying either A or B from other applications into Cals DOES NOT give me 
this grief. (at least not yet)
This is a recent event and I don't thing I have had this problem with 
the computer in my little clinic.
Even though this may not be any sort of "fatal error", it is nonetheless 
very annoying during work.


Is this explanation a little better?
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Brian Barker]

At 20:04 10/05/2018 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
I am using Ver. 5.2.6.2 (and some other minor variations) on a 
Windows 10 machine and having trouble with "copying text". I think, 
this problem has not yet appeared on other machines.


Problem: Select a text portion in one application -> move to Writer 
-> Ctrl+V (paste).


That's not a "problem" until you say what doesn't happen as you 
expect! And you shouldn't expect to paste anything in LibreOffice 
just because you selected it in another application: you need to 
*copy* it there first.



(copy "text only" does NOT help)


This has to be in the other, unspecified application, so no-one can 
say anything about that. Or do you mean pasting unformatted text?


However, what shows up is a text portion selected earlier and NOT 
the one selected just now.


Applying Occam's razor, the simplest interpretation is merely that 
the copy process did not operate correctly. Since you will normally 
get no visual or audible feedback of the success of a copy operation, 
it is very easy to think you have completed one when it hasn't 
happened properly. Without the copy happening properly, what will be 
on the clipboard is what was previously there, of course: hence your 
observed problem. Many are the times when I have selected required 
material and pasted something else, having forgotten to copy the 
selection or perhaps fumbled doing so. Another easy trick is to copy 
material and then perform minor changes involving copying in the 
target document before pasting it, forgetting that this will 
overwrite the clipboard contents.


Are you performing the copy (if you are doing it at all!) using 
Ctrl+C or using a menu item or toolbar button in the other 
application? The first thing to suspect would be a hardware problem 
making that process flaky. Is your Ctrl key reliable? Does the other 
Ctrl key work better or suffer from the same problem? Is the C key 
problematic? Do you need to empty your keyboard of crumbs? Does it 
need new batteries? Is your left mouse click sometimes unreliable? 
What happens if you try an alternative mouse?


When I do the Ctrl+V (paste) trick in a text editor, the text 
portion in question shows up just fine.


That cannot be explained by the above - except that any such 
intermittent fault will show up confusing results such as this. But 
remember that the clipboard is a facility of the operating system or 
other application, not either of the applications between which you 
are attempting to transfer material. So you shouldn't immediately 
suspect LibreOffice.



This happens SOMETIMES but not always. (it is nevertheless very annoying).


So it is indeed an intermittent problem, either with the hardware or the user.


Currently I have to close Writer and reopen it to "solve" this problem.


I'd strongly suggest that this is a red herring, and merely another 
symptom of intermittent behaviour.



Is there something a little smarter that can be done?


Get someone to watch you work and see exactly what is happening. Can 
you reproduce the problem under such conditions?


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker (who happens just today to have needed to replace the 
batteries in his keyboard)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

On 2018/05/11 16:49, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.
Are you using Ctl-c to copy.
Do you have a clipboard other than the standard windows one  
(equivalent to Klipper in KDE or Clypan on Mac).

Steve

On 10/05/18 23:04, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
I am using Ver. 5.2.6.2 (and some other minor variations) on a  
Windows 10 machine and having trouble with "copying text".

I think, this problem has not yet appeared on other machines.

Problem:
Select a text portion in one application -> move to Writer -> Ctrl+V  
(paste).

(copy "text only" does NOT help)

However, what shows up is a text portion selected earlier and NOT the  
one selected just now.
When I do the Ctrl+V (paste) trick in a text editor, the text portion  
in question shows up just fine.


This happens SOMETIMES but not always. (it is nevertheless very  
annoying).

Currently I have to close Writer and reopen it to "solve" this problem.

Is there something a little smarter that can be done?
Thank you.
Thomas





Yes, MOSTLY I use Ctrl+C -> Ctrl+V.
Since that did not work, I also tried the mouse.
I DO NOT have any of the clipboard things you mentioned.
(I hope find enough time tonight to install a new version ... maybe  
things will improve)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy function not working

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
Are you using Ctl-c to copy.
Do you have a clipboard other than the standard windows one (equivalent  
to Klipper in KDE or Clypan on Mac).

Steve

On 10/05/18 23:04, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
I am using Ver. 5.2.6.2 (and some other minor variations) on a Windows  
10 machine and having trouble with "copying text".

I think, this problem has not yet appeared on other machines.

Problem:
Select a text portion in one application -> move to Writer -> Ctrl+V  
(paste).

(copy "text only" does NOT help)

However, what shows up is a text portion selected earlier and NOT the  
one selected just now.
When I do the Ctrl+V (paste) trick in a text editor, the text portion  
in question shows up just fine.


This happens SOMETIMES but not always. (it is nevertheless very  
annoying).

Currently I have to close Writer and reopen it to "solve" this problem.

Is there something a little smarter that can be done?
Thank you.
Thomas




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