Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
På Tue, 14 Aug 2012 02:12:33 +0200, skrev Florian Effenberger : Hello everyone, I just wanted to thank everyone for your feedback, and assure you that I read every bit, even if I don't manage to reply to every message in detail. My offer stands valid, let's wait for some more feedback and some more days, and then make a final decision. My feedback is that I don't like the change at all. Most of the mailing lists I subscribe to nowadays (~50 lists) are on Yahoo or Google, and none of them behaves like this, with no Reply-To field. They all have the standard Reply-To list field. And so do the few non-Yahoo/Google lists. LO is now the only exception, and I actually out of old habit replied to your post as I always do to lists (and emails), before I noticed that I was writing to your email instead of to the list. Please switch back! -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed
På Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:31:07 +0200, skrev Florian Effenberger : Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called "Reply to mangling" has been disabled). So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other words, with any e-mail client, replies to e-mails on the list were automatically sent directly to the list. Which is the whole idea of a mailing list IMO. In the past, this lead to two major problems: 1. Several times, people have sent direct replies to the public list, where deleting them is nearly impossible. I remember at least one case where confidential information has been sent out that caused lots of worries for the sender and his employer. This happened because people hit "reply" and thought it would reply to the sender only. That some people send private mail in public can't be a good argument to stop/hamper the flow on a miling list - surely? 2. I have heard complaints in the past from people, stating that working with the non-developer lists of LibreOffice is a pain for them, because of reply-to mangling, resulting in a lack of communication. This also led to the fact that numerous tasks were done by the same people, who needed to spend more and more time, instead of sharing the work burden with others. While I do not fully believe this argument, there's just one way to find out... Therefore, I have applied a change: Replies to e-mails from the list now only go to the original sender. You either need to use the "reply to all" feature of your e-mail program, or - preferably - the "reply to list"/"reply to group" feature, which will direct replies directly to the list. This is common practice on most mailing lists, and even the default setting for our mailing list software, so we did not re-invent the wheel here. Those seeking for details should have a look at http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html I checked every single one of my 52 current mailing lists, and not one single one of them follows that rule (except this one). One of them used the senders email + the list email in the Reply-To field, but that's it. And that list isn't really for discussing, but just for one-way information. I'd like to see some statistics that shows that 'most mailing lists' does not put the list address in the Reply-To field ? And where is the RFC? And the poll? Looks like most people wants to get it back to how it was, which is how all my other 51 lists still are? Using the 'Reply to all' option is not a good idea at all IMO. I know we had numerous discussions on this topic in the past, but the outcome was that roughly 50% were for this change, and 50% refused it, so I am really sitting between two chairs here, for which I beg for your understanding. On the one hand, those complaining the lists are unusable with reply-to mangling, on the other hand, those complaining the lists are unusable without reply-to mangling. Unfortunately, combining those two, even on a per-recipient basis, is not possible, so they are mutually exclusive to each other. In order to find out the real impact, I simply changed the setting, and again, I beg for your understanding. Do not worry: The mailing lists are for the community, so it's the community deciding how they should work. What I'd like to ask all of you is to try out for a few days if that change is good for each list or not. Should we find out it is more harmful than it helps, I will immediately switch back to the old behaviour. Sorry for this short notice, and I beg for your understanding that I'm somehow sitting between two chairs here. Florian -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed
På Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:29:24 +0200, skrev Andrew Brager : Thunderbird has the option. I don't know what other clients have it, if any. Opera have that option too. But it still doesn't make the idea of making the From: the default To: address for replies any better. It is like if the default on a forum would be that you reply with a PM instead of to the thread. Opera automatically detects/filters mailing lists, and whenever I get a mail with both my email and the list address in the To: field it removes the list 'duplicate' and leaves the other one in the Inbox instead of in the list 'folder', which causes the context/thread to be lost. Makes it messy to follow! I believe this is the standard if you use 'Reply to all'? At least that's the way it works if I use that option in Opera. The way anne-ology does it works better, as the second address is placed in the Cc: field instead of 2 addresses in the To: field. On 8/15/2012 5:00 PM, anne-ology wrote: exactly - well, there is a third option [to forward ;-) ] And those are the only options available in the web-based e-mails as well. BTW - I've never seen this supposed 'reply to list' option on any computer. -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to remove a bug report attachment?
I just discovered that a rtf file I attached as an example file when I reported a bug with rtf imports losing the register tags is now *very* available when doing a Google search. The problem is that this file was never meant to be public, as it contains a short genealogical report with living people in it. This is not even legal to publish on the net. I never thought that such file attachements would be made publicly available!!! How is it possible to get this RTF file removed/deleted? The bug was fixed BTW.. -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove a bug report attachment?
På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:23:09 +0200, skrev Dan : Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I just discovered that a rtf file I attached as an example file when I reported a bug with rtf imports losing the register tags is now *very* available when doing a Google search. The problem is that this file was never meant to be public, as it contains a short genealogical report with living people in it. This is not even legal to publish on the net. I never thought that such file attachements would be made publicly available!!! How is it possible to get this RTF file removed/deleted? The bug was fixed BTW.. This may or may not work: Try going to the Bug page and leave a comment that you want your file to be removed. They may or may not do so. Also, it may take a couple of days before anyone sees your message. Thanks! I already did that, but I guess I'll have to wait a few days to see if anything happens. I also managed to remove/change the file name, which shows the rtf with all tags visible. But the Google 'Show as HTML' still shows the fully readable document :( -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove a bug report attachment?
På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:49:30 +0200, skrev Tom Davies : Hi :) If you uploaded the file to somewhere then try goign back to where you uploaded it and remove it from there. I had a look through the thread http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/rtf-import-broken-in-3-5-1-td3877445.html but i couldn't find the upload link in there. If you did use Nabble then you can go back to your post and edit out the link. Subsequent replies might be more difficult to deal with but people here are usually willing to help. Another way might be to email "postmaster" here but i can't find the right address right now. The postmaster address might be in http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Best first thing to try is fidning where you uploaded the file and see if you can remove it from there. The bug is at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48193 The only thing I could do was to tag it as 'obsolete', which doesn't stop Google from indexing it. I could also change the file name and MIME type, but not remove it :( It still pops up first when Googling for 'Magnus Hildershavn', and the 'Show HTML' still shows the formatted original file :( I've been on several closed and open beta teams through the years, but I have never ever before seen any of my attached/posted example files popping up on Google! IMO it is not a good policy to make such files available to robots. Regards Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 24/8/12, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: From: Bjørn K Nilssen Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove a bug report attachment? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 24 August, 2012, 9:31 På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:23:09 +0200, skrev Dan : Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I just discovered that a rtf file I attached as an example file when I reported a bug with rtf imports losing the register tags is now *very* available when doing a Google search. The problem is that this file was never meant to be public, as it contains a short genealogical report with living people in it. This is not even legal to publish on the net. I never thought that such file attachements would be made publicly available!!! How is it possible to get this RTF file removed/deleted? The bug was fixed BTW.. This may or may not work: Try going to the Bug page and leave a comment that you want your file to be removed. They may or may not do so. Also, it may take a couple of days before anyone sees your message. Thanks! I already did that, but I guess I'll have to wait a few days to see if anything happens. I also managed to remove/change the file name, which shows the rtf with all tags visible. But the Google 'Show as HTML' still shows the fully readable document :( --Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove a bug report attachment?
På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:34:01 +0200, skrev Tom Davies : Hi :)Ahhh. I see. When i tried googling the suggestion it came up 2nd, not 1st. For other people it may appear much lower down. Still the fact it appears at all is the problem, not the exact position. I don't know if the problem has already been sorted out but when i did click on the google link or the bug-report's link i got a mess of what appeared to be fairly garbled coding, such as ... par \pard\fi0\li1832\plain\f3\fs20 Is it possible to further edit the contents of the attachment to make it even more incomprehensible? I made several attempts, but they all ended up as new comments, while the original text was unchanged. Since the attachment is on the bug-reporting site rather than the email-list i don't think postmaster would be able to help. Is there a devs mailing list to ask? I think posting a bug-report and adding a comment to the existing report has been the best way to contact the devs tbh but if there is a list then it might be worth contacting them there too. I guess that after I added the bug comment I'll have to wait a few days to see if anything happens? I also sent a mail/request to that listwrangler@.. address. Problem is that I was contacted by one of those whose data was now made public, wondering how this could have happened, as I've told everybody that info on living persons would not be made public. It is quite embarassing.. Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 24/8/12, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: From: Bjørn K Nilssen Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove a bug report attachment? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 24 August, 2012, 10:17 På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:49:30 +0200, skrev Tom Davies : Hi :) If you uploaded the file to somewhere then try going back to where you uploaded it and remove it from there. I had a look through the thread http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/rtf-import-broken-in-3-5-1-td3877445.html but i couldn't find the upload link in there. If you did use Nabble then you can go back to your post and edit out the link. Subsequent replies might be more difficult to deal with but people here are usually willing to help. Another way might be to email "postmaster" here but i can't find the right address right now. The postmaster address might be in http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Best first thing to try is finding where you uploaded the file and see if you can remove it from there. The bug is at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48193 The only thing I could do was to tag it as 'obsolete', which doesn't stop Google from indexing it. I could also change the file name and MIME type, but not remove it :( It still pops up first when Googling for 'Magnus Hildershavn', and the 'Show HTML' still shows the formatted original file :( I've been on several closed and open beta teams through the years, but I have never ever before seen any of my attached/posted example files popping up on Google! IMO it is not a good policy to make such files available to robots. Regards Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 24/8/12, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: From: Bjørn K Nilssen Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove a bug report attachment? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 24 August, 2012, 9:31 På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:23:09 +0200, skrev Dan : Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I just discovered that a rtf file I attached as an example file when I reported a bug with rtf imports losing the register tags is now *very* available when doing a Google search. The problem is that this file was never meant to be public, as it contains a short genealogical report with living people in it. This is not even legal to publish on the net. I never thought that such file attachements would be made publicly available!!! How is it possible to get this RTF file removed/deleted? The bug was fixed BTW.. This may or may not work: Try going to the Bug page and leave a comment that you want your file to be removed. They may or may not do so. Also, it may take a couple of days before anyone sees your message. Thanks! I already did that, but I guess I'll have to wait a few days to see if anything happens. I also managed to remove/change the file name, which shows the rtf with all tags visible. But the Google 'Show as HTML' still shows the fully readable document :( --Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly ar
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to remove a bug report attachment?
På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:17:40 +0200, skrev Nino Novak : Hi, Am 24.08.2012 12:41 schrieb Bjørn K Nilssen: I guess that after I added the bug comment I'll have to wait a few days to see if anything happens? Nobody will read this comment. Are you sure about that? After a few unsuccessful attempts at removing it I found that a few new comments had been added. Then I received a mail saying that a person who was following the topic had 'unsubscribed' - probably because he received too many nonsense-messages/comments? I also sent a mail/request to that listwrangler@.. address. hopefully you used the right destination address (it's sitewranglers@..., not listwranglers...) Sorry about that - yes, I did use the right address, and so far I have received a message saying that it will be moderated because I'm not a subscriber to that list - but eventually will be posted there, if it passes the moderation gate... Problem is that I was contacted by one of those whose data was now made public, wondering how this could have happened, as I've told everybody that info on living persons would not be made public. It is quite embarrassing.. Internet *is* public and therefore should be used with care. Yes, but I have always considered such bug sites as un-indexed by and invisible to search engines, like PM/DM's on forums and Facebook etc. Apparently I was wrong.. -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to remove a bug report attachment?
På Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:03:04 +0200, skrev Mirosław Zalewski : On 24/08/2012 at 13:31, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: Yes, but I have always considered such bug sites as un-indexed by and invisible to search engines, like PM/DM's on forums and Facebook etc. Apparently I was wrong.. Bug-tracking systems of most (all?) free and open source software are public. If in doubt, try opening any bug report in another browser or "Private mode". If it is readable for you, then it is readable for search engine crawler. Yes, but the attachements are not really readable by me directly, and neither do they need to be to the robots. Finding info about the bugs on Google is fine, but as attachments are not really part of the page content of those bug pages I don't think it should be made available for indexing by crawlers. Of course pages may provide , but it's only up to crawler authors if they comply these. One search engine will, another will not. The most popular, Google, currently does comply to these. Exactly - and as most people use Google it would prevent most people from seeing it. -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO to .doc with background image?
I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it. Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF. But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone. Any ideas about what happens? Can't you use background images in Word? So far the client has to use the pdf ... -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] has anyone tried LO on Windows 8?
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:41:29 +0100, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I know that Windows 8 just came out, and a lot of people are waiting for their new Win8 systems to be delivered. The real question is "has anyone tried LibreOffice on a Win8 machine?" It works just fine, just like it used to do. I don't use any touch screen though, hence the new Start screen works just like an enhanced start button. I'm quite happy with the move to W8 so far :) With their new touch-optimized OS, and all of their changes to the way you use and access the apps on it, I was wondering how LibreOffice is "running" on this "radically" new environment. I was reading a set of articles about Windows 8 and the pros and cons of upgrading your current OS to it. There was "talk" on how some software had to be changed to deal with the "formally known as Metro" environment. There were many different opinions about what was going to be needed to be done to make current packages work "properly" with the new environment. So, has anyone out there tried Windows 8 and LO with it? Desktop version and touch screen laptop-style system? -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO to .doc with background image?
On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:29:21 +0100, Dan Lewis wrote: On 11/07/2012 10:00 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it. Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF. But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone. Any ideas about what happens? Can't you use background images in Word? So far the client has to use the pdf ... The problem is the same as it always has been: a file created by one program does not always look the same when viewed in another program. This has been known to happen even in different versions of Word. PDF was designed to prevent this problem, so I doubt that it is a matter of the client "has to use ..." but rather is a good choice. They actually have Acrobat XI (or whatever it is called, as they wasn't sure what they had..), but they don't know how to use it. The idea was that they should be able to reuse the front/back background images, logo etc on all their leaflets. Specifically, Word uses background images in different way than LibreOffice. As a test, I opened an .odt file using Abiword which is suppose to use ODF formats. It had some graphics that Abiword rendered as small thumbnails. It had a numbered list that covered several paragraphs. Abiword put them into a single paragraph while wrapping text. Earlier this week I used Word for the first time in many years, and I must say that I do not think it has evolved in a good way. No wonder that so few of the .doc files I receive are using styles instead of directly formatted text. I never was a Word fan (I loved Ami Pro before Lotus destroyed it) , but I think it was better earlier. -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO to .doc with background image?
I'm not at all a fan of this lists unusual Reply-To usage :( --- Forwarded message --- From: "Bjørn K Nilssen" To: "Brian Barker" Cc: Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO to .doc with background image? Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:28:00 +0100 On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:02:19 +0100, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:00 07/11/2012 +0100, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it. Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF. But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone. Any ideas about what happens? Can't you use background images in Word? So far the client has to use the pdf ... How have you determined that the background image has disappeared? Have you (or has your client) opened the .doc file in genuine Microsoft Word or in the freeware (Windows only) Word viewer? Or have you just reopened the .doc file in LibreOffice and found the background absent there? I think there may be circumstances where the .doc file does retain the background but this is not converted correctly when reopened in LibreOffice. The background is gone both when I open the .doc file in LO and when he opens it in Word. Which may indicate that it is a problem with the export? It is not a linked file. And all the other images export/import just fine from the .doc file. It is just the full-page-no-margins background image that disappears. I'll probably be writing on a machine with genuine Word next week, and then I could do some tests on a USB-stick to see if a background image added inside Word will import into LO. Note also that the Background tab of the Page Style dialogue (where you selected the background graphic) has a "Link" box. If you tick this, the graphic is linked and not embedded, and there may be problems when you transfer the file to another file system - e.g. your client's - where the original image file does not exist separately at the same absolute file path. Try unticking that box. (But I'm not sure that will make any difference.) I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO to .doc with background image?
On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:39:15 +0100, Mieszko Kaczmarczyk wrote: W dniu 07.11.2012 16:00, Bjørn K Nilssen pisze: I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it. Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF. But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone. Any ideas about what happens? Can't you use background images in Word? So far the client has to use the pdf ... There is still problem with export to doc - many times the GFX is lost, or style/font changed in part of text. The situation in weird because the Word from M$O 2010 can read&write in both format and the document always looks the same. Apparently thhere is a problem somewhere. This particular document could in fact be opened in Word both as .doc and .odt file, but the background image was missing in both versions. Only LO can 'see' the background image in the .odt file. Mieszko -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO to .doc with background image?
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:41:24 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Perhaps the problem is in Word? There are a few different options. 1. Tell the client that Writer is more of a desktop publishing package than Word and allows greater sophistication in layout. Then give the client the link so they can download and install LibreOffice on their systems. Well, the fact that LO can't read the .doc with the background in place doesn't make it likely that the .doc file is kosher? BTW, they are not allowed to install anything by themselves, so I guess LO is out of the question there. Unless they could get a permission ie... 2. Post a bug-report against Word and see the response from MS. (I don't think it is possible for non-MS staff to post bug-reports about MS products but it might be). 3. Word doesn't support all the different types of Anchor points for images and also might not support the wrap options and layering. I suspect it's the Anchor Point that is creating the problem this time. Right-click on the image and change the Anchor Point from "To Page" to something Word can handle such as "To Paragraph". You might then need to re-position the image. Maybe it's the anchoring then? I used anchor-to-page. What are the allowed anchor types in Word then? Regards Regards from Tom :) -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3
I have tried several times to upgrade to LO 3.6.3 Norwegian(nb). Win8/Pro64 OS. Every time it ends up with internal error 2503, followed by internal error 2502. And then it just exits. Any ideas what about what causes this? -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:24:53 +0100, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/21/2012 06:43 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I have tried several times to upgrade to LO 3.6.3 Norwegian(nb). Win8/Pro64 OS. Every time it ends up with internal error 2503, followed by internal error 2502. And then it just exits. Any ideas what about what causes this? Do you have LO/OO Quickstarter installed/open? Often this blocks an install. No I don't. I have never received those error messages when installing other versions of LO. Are there any error codes info somewhere? -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:01:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Open your old version and go to Tools - Options - Memory and untick "Quickstarter" Regards from Tom :) It has been unticked all the time. Looks like this is a msi problem, rather than LO. From: Jay Lozier To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 15:24 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3 On 11/21/2012 06:43 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I have tried several times to upgrade to LO 3.6.3 Norwegian(nb). Win8/Pro64 OS. Every time it ends up with internal error 2503, followed by internal error 2502. And then it just exits. Any ideas what about what causes this? Do you have LO/OO Quickstarter installed/open? Often this blocks an install. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:12:15 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :)Ok, it might be best to uninstall the older version and then reboot before trying to install LO again. Normally you shouldn't need to but something has obviously gone a bit wonky this time. Well, the older version is still working. By uninstalling it I might still be unable to install the newer version, and be stuck without any LO at all... =:-( Regards from Tom :) From: Bjørn K Nilssen To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012, 11:10 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3 On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:01:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Open your old version and go to Tools - Options - Memory and untick "Quickstarter" Regards from Tom :) It has been unticked all the time. Looks like this is a msi problem, rather than LO. From: Jay Lozier To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 15:24 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3 On 11/21/2012 06:43 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: I have tried several times to upgrade to LO 3.6.3 Norwegian(nb). Win8/Pro64 OS. Every time it ends up with internal error 2503, followed by internal error 2502. And then it just exits. Any ideas what about what causes this? Do you have LO/OO Quickstarter installed/open? Often this blocks an install. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted --Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problems installing 3.6.3
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:12:16 +0100, thomasjk wrote: Use Google search https://www.google.com/search?q=win+8+error+2502+and+2503&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a It obviously is a problem with Windows Installer. I have tried installing other msi packages, and receive the same error messages. -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:38:08 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmmm, if that happened you could just reinstall the older version over the newer one again. Ahhh, the advantages of Freee Software being free! :) This approach ensures whichever version you reinstall picks-up all your settings without forcing you "back to factory defaults". As the older version was also a msi package, it would probably not work neither. However, I've managed to solve the problem - sort of. There is a hidden administrator account in Win8 that can be unlocked/visible. When signed in as adminstrator (now with English language) those msi packages installed just fine. Although I haven't yet found that other program that I installed again. No links to it from my regular account (which is supposed to have all the administrator privileges too). As LO was already installed, the new versions inherits its links. Another approach (which you might prefer) would be to install the newer version alongside the one that still works http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Regards from Tom :) -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems installing 3.6.3
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:09:44 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Nicely done :) Congrats :D Also thanks for giving the list the answer that worked best for you so that people in the future might benefit from finding the option fairly easily I would rather call it a workaround than a solution. There seems to be a lot of people with similar problems around - also pre-Win8, but mostly on Windows 8. It appears to be a problem with file permissions somewhere with the Windows Installer. Maybe combined with non-English versions of the OS? Hopefully it will be solved by MS in the near future. -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] latest java update has broken my install of Libre Office.
På Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:24:03 +0200, skrev Tom Randall : Hi all. Well the subject pretty much says it, I got a notification there was an update to Java, I believe it is java 7 update five. Once I did the update my install of Libre Office no longer works. As soon as I try to start the program I get the standard windows 7 message about a problem has caused libre office to stop working, Windows will close the program, blah blah blah. I have tried repairing the install and when that did not do anything I went so far as to remove the whole install and re- install Libre Office. Still no joy. I am not sure if this is an accessibility problem or not, I do know that the java update did totally screw my install of access bridge as well and I had to re-install that too. This is the first time I’ve ever had a java update screw things up this way. Needless to say I am not a happy camper, I depend on this program to do paperwork for work here at home. Has anyone else had this happen with this java update? I am running the 32-bit version of windows 7. I have posted this to the accessibility list too but am posting it here in case it is not related to the accessibility settings and is a general problem. One user on the accessibility list suggested that I try putting the java 631 version back on the system and see if that solves the problem. I know the java folks don’t recommend you do things like this but I’m frankly willing to if it will get this fixed for now. If anyone has any other ideas on how to fix this or if you need more info just let me know. Thanks in advance. I had the same problem here, running jre 7 on XP and installing the newest LibreOffice. The problem was fixed by removing javasettings_Windows_x86.xml (I actually just renamed it to javasettings_Windows_x86.xm0) and then when I started LibreOffice a new and correct version was created. The old xml file contained info about the jre6, which was not there any longer. Apparently LO 3.5.4.2 didn't detect the correct Java version when upgrading from LO 3.4.xx. That xml file was located inside \LibreOffice\3\user\config\ inside the \AppData folder -- Bjørn K Nilssen - b...@bknilssen.no - 3D and panoramas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
