Re: [389-users] How to create CA into PEM format

2013-12-27 Thread Rob Crittenden

fosiul alam wrote:

Hi,
I have created the certificate by using
https://raw.github.com/richm/scripts/master/setupssl2.sh;

and it working fine,

But I need to get the CA certificate in pem format which will have to
in /etc/openldap/cacertificate directory as I get this when trying to
setup ldap authentiation

  To connect to a LDAP server with TLS   │
│ protocol
enabled you need a CA certificate │
│ which signed
your server's certificate.│
│ Copy the
certificate in the PEM format to  │
│ the
'/etc/openldap/cacerts' directory. │
│ Then press OK.


Can any one pleaese tel me, how will i get the certificate ??

Please advise.


# certutil -L -d /etc/dirsrv/slapd-YOUR-INSTANCE -n your CA nickname -a

To get a list of nicknames in the NSS database run:

# certutil -L -d /etc/dirsrv/slapd-YOUR-INSTANCE

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Re: Tool to convert a video DVD for YouTube uploading

2013-12-27 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 23:11 +, Paul Smith wrote:
 By uploading the VOB files, the quality of the image is better
 compared to the AVI counterparts.

The less you convert a file, the better it will be.  Most video
compression schemes are lossy (data is permanently discarded), and
compressions upon compressions (video to VOB, YouTube's conversion to
Flash or webm) can produce nasty artefacts.  Put another in the middle,
and you multiply the problem.

However, it is possible that very good compression in the middle of that
(i.e. one that's not very destructive to the data) may not be
noticeable.  Especially when you consider the small picture size that
YouTube has for the video.

The same goes for audio.  Some YouTube clips sound like a detuning
shortwave radio, played back over a chewed audio cassette from 1977.

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Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm

2013-12-27 Thread poma
On 27.12.2013 06:28, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote:
 
 I ran fedup from F19 to F20 without any trouble.
 I was excited to discover sddm but kdm came back as before.
 I then installed sddm with yum but kdm still came.
 I the tried
 $ system-switch-displaymanager sddm
 but got that answer:
 The graphical display manager sddm is not supported yet.

 How am I supposed to do to switch to this new destop manager?

 
 I would suggest you don't switch yet until it is ready

Which one will be ready, The graphical display manager(stdout) or new
destop manager(Frédéric)? :)


poma



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Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm

2013-12-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:59 AM, poma  wrote:


 Which one will be ready, The graphical display manager(stdout) or new
 destop manager(Frédéric)? :)


The answer is in the link I provided and you trimmed it out.

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Re: Tool to convert a video DVD for YouTube uploading

2013-12-27 Thread Jon Ingason
2013-12-27 00:28, Paul Smith skrev:
 On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM, John Wendel jwende...@comcast.net wrote:
 Give Handbrake a try. It produces mp4 or mkv output with great quality and
 the output will be much smaller than your VOB files.
 
 Thanks, John. Is handbrake in Fedora repos? It seems not.
 
 Paul
 

See http://ruturaj.net/installing-handbrake-on-fedora-19/

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Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:17:37 -0800
Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote:

 Where does one specify that mailx should be used?
 
 Thanx
 

Do you mean within claws-mail?



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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:02:29 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 * Hit the top right corner with the pointer. Doesn't work. Hit it again. The  
 favourites bar slides in from the right. Yay.

Pressing the Meta-key (aka Super-key or Windows-key) is a more
convenient way, also just to get to the Activities overview screen.

Much better than moving the mouse long ways over the entire screen.
(Guess what I thought when during F20 development for a short time I had
to open the screenlock with a mouse gesture because no key would do it.)

Alt+TAB for switching through active windows as well as Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down
for switching virtual desktops still works, too.
 
 * A new minituarized window appears somewhere else on the screen.

Where should it appear instead? If there's enough free space on the screen
(not the Activities overview), at least the window doesn't overlap with
other windows. And it becomes the active window, too, when returning to
the screen (e.g. by pressing Meta-key).

 * Click it to move the input focus there.

A matter of taste. I'm still a fan of focus follows mouse, so I don't
need to click windows to activate them.
 
 Versus:
 
 * Move the pointer to an icon on the desktop. Double click on it.

Works only if no windows hide those icons. Or else you need to unhide the
desktop first.
 
 WTF is wrong with Gnome? Don't answer that. It's a rhetorical question.

FWIW, I'm not here to defend it. I just use it (or more precisely, the
programs on the screen), and I'm glad the default GNOME Shell screen is
not overloaded with lots of applets and distraction anymore.
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Copy game to USB stick -

2013-12-27 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


Can someone recommend a procedure for copying a Windows game cd to a USB 
flash drive with my Fedora 20 system. My grandson has a new HP computer 
and game however he has no CD drive to install it with. I would gain 
some status if I can come to the rescue!


Thanks,

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Re: Copy game to USB stick -

2013-12-27 Thread davidschaak1
My phone doesn't allow for bottom posting. Sorry.

Personal preference for doing what you want would be mounting the usb stick 
without opening in file manager and opening a split window in konqueror.

Once navigate to the cdrom, duplicate the structure of the cdrom on the stick.

Unless there is a copy protectin scheme on the cd, this should work.

Hth

Dave

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Can someone recommend a procedure for copying a Windows game cd to a USB 
flash drive with my Fedora 20 system. My grandson has a new HP computer 
and game however he has no CD drive to install it with. I would gain 
some status if I can come to the rescue!

Thanks,

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Re: Copy game to USB stick -

2013-12-27 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 27/12/13 08:29, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:

My phone doesn't allow for bottom posting. Sorry.

Personal preference for doing what you want would be mounting the usb stick 
without opening in file manager and opening a split window in konqueror.

Once navigate to the cdrom, duplicate the structure of the cdrom on the stick.

Unless there is a copy protectin scheme on the cd, this should work.

Hth

Dave

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konqueror I believe that's a KDE application that I don't have but I 
will look into it. Copy protection, a factor I had not thought of? I 
have a drive adapter kludge that may permit using a CDroom drive via his 
USB port  ...


Thank you for the suggestion,

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Re: Copy game to USB stick -

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:23:05 -0500
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:

 
 Can someone recommend a procedure for copying a Windows game cd to
 a USB flash drive with my Fedora 20 system. My grandson has a new
 HP computer and game however he has no CD drive to install it with.
 I would gain some status if I can come to the rescue!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bob
 

Rip the game on Fedora box, save as iso,
use deamon-tools (windows) to install and play.
Keep his disk away safe.

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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Michael Schwendt writes:


On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:02:29 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 * Hit the top right corner with the pointer. Doesn't work. Hit it again.  
The

 favourites bar slides in from the right. Yay.

Pressing the Meta-key (aka Super-key or Windows-key) is a more
convenient way, also just to get to the Activities overview screen.

Much better than moving the mouse long ways over the entire screen.
(Guess what I thought when during F20 development for a short time I had
to open the screenlock with a mouse gesture because no key would do it.)

Alt+TAB for switching through active windows as well as Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down
for switching virtual desktops still works, too.

 * A new minituarized window appears somewhere else on the screen.

Where should it appear instead? If there's enough free space on the screen


The point is that by this time I've already done more work than I do with a  
simple double-click.



 * Click it to move the input focus there.

A matter of taste. I'm still a fan of focus follows mouse, so I don't
need to click windows to activate them.


I use focus follows mouse too. But when I did my little experiment, the  
favorites bar was still slid out after the new gnome-terminal window  
appeared, and I had to click on the new window in order to return to the  
desktop, and the new window.



 Versus:

 * Move the pointer to an icon on the desktop. Double click on it.

Works only if no windows hide those icons. Or else you need to unhide the
desktop first.


Except that when I'm working, I make sure that the small part of the screen  
where my important icons live remains unobstructed, and accessible.


The point is that a traditional desktop paradigm is infinitely more  
flexible, and results in faster, more optimum workflow. I can open new  
terminal windows without letting go of the mouse. The Gnome way takes  
longer, involves more steps, and requires keyboard action.


And now, in F20, Gnome found more ways to break traditional desktops, by  
finding a way to have gnome-terminal open in / instead of the home  
directory, when it gets launched from a desktop icon.



 WTF is wrong with Gnome? Don't answer that. It's a rhetorical question.

FWIW, I'm not here to defend it. I just use it (or more precisely, the
programs on the screen), and I'm glad the default GNOME Shell screen is
not overloaded with lots of applets and distraction anymore.


Good for you.




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Re: Copy game to USB stick -

2013-12-27 Thread davidschaak1
Yvw. Might be able to do something similar with another file manager.

There are progs for wine that gets around some copy protection schemes. One was 
called no-cd. Haven't played video games since Janes boughtout Micropose.

Gl

Dave
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On 27/12/13 08:29, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
 My phone doesn't allow for bottom posting. Sorry.

 Personal preference for doing what you want would be mounting the usb stick 
 without opening in file manager and opening a split window in konqueror.

 Once navigate to the cdrom, duplicate the structure of the cdrom on the stick.

 Unless there is a copy protectin scheme on the cd, this should work.

 Hth

 Dave

 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity

konqueror I believe that's a KDE application that I don't have but I 
will look into it. Copy protection, a factor I had not thought of? I 
have a drive adapter kludge that may permit using a CDroom drive via his 
USB port  ...

Thank you for the suggestion,

Bob

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Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm

2013-12-27 Thread poma
On 27.12.2013 11:17, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:59 AM, poma  wrote:
 

 Which one will be ready, The graphical display manager(stdout) or new
 destop manager(Frédéric)? :)

 
 The answer is in the link I provided and you trimmed it out.

It seems to me that both of you are not able to comprehend one full
sentence. :)
It seems even experienced users suffer from superficiality.
Oh dear!


Joe Bauers


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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:44:47 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 And now, in F20, Gnome found more ways to break traditional desktops, by  
 finding a way to have gnome-terminal open in / instead of the home  
 directory, when it gets launched from a desktop icon.

It doesn't do that here.

I used gnome-tweak-tool to enable desktop icons, then copied a
gnome-terminal.desktop file from another account, had to mark it as
trusted, and double-clicking it starts a new terminal with default path
being $HOME.
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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Michael Schwendt writes:


On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:44:47 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 And now, in F20, Gnome found more ways to break traditional desktops, by
 finding a way to have gnome-terminal open in / instead of the home
 directory, when it gets launched from a desktop icon.

It doesn't do that here.

I used gnome-tweak-tool to enable desktop icons, then copied a
gnome-terminal.desktop file from another account, had to mark it as
trusted, and double-clicking it starts a new terminal with default path
being $HOME.


Well, my gnome-terminal.desktop file was last modified in 2011. It always  
started gnome-terminal in the home directory, until F20. Now, it launched  
gnome-terminal from /.





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Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm

2013-12-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:31 AM, poma  wrote:



 It seems to me that both of you are not able to comprehend one full
 sentence. :)
 It seems even experienced users suffer from superficiality.
 Oh dear!


Do you like riddles?  I am not a big fan of them.  If you want to clarify
something, do so directly

Rahul
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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:01:25 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

  I used gnome-tweak-tool to enable desktop icons, then copied a
  gnome-terminal.desktop file from another account, had to mark it as
  trusted, and double-clicking it starts a new terminal with default path
  being $HOME.
 
 Well, my gnome-terminal.desktop file was last modified in 2011. 

$ stat gnome-terminal.desktop |grep ^M
Modify: 2011-07-20 21:47:18.0 +0200

Originally it had been dragged onto the desktop in 2011 and has not been
modified since then.

 It always started gnome-terminal in the home directory, 

Here it does.

 until F20. Now, it launched gnome-terminal from /.

What makes you so sure that _this_ behaviour is intentional and not only
a bug (or side-effect) specific to your setup? Even Nautilus not starting
in $HOME sounds unusual.
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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Michael Schwendt writes:


On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:01:25 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

  I used gnome-tweak-tool to enable desktop icons, then copied a
  gnome-terminal.desktop file from another account, had to mark it as
  trusted, and double-clicking it starts a new terminal with default path
  being $HOME.

 Well, my gnome-terminal.desktop file was last modified in 2011.

$ stat gnome-terminal.desktop |grep ^M
Modify: 2011-07-20 21:47:18.0 +0200

Originally it had been dragged onto the desktop in 2011 and has not been
modified since then.

 It always started gnome-terminal in the home directory,

Here it does.

 until F20. Now, it launched gnome-terminal from /.

What makes you so sure that _this_ behaviour is intentional and not only
a bug (or side-effect) specific to your setup? Even Nautilus not starting
in $HOME sounds unusual.


Because it's par for the course. Evidence is replete with examples of  
hostility from Gnome UI to anything other than the Official Way – to the  
point that one needs to use something laughably called a Tweak Tool, an  
add-on, to control various mundane things like the date display format, or  
input focus behavior. Something that, until Gnome 3, was offered as an  
integrated configuration setting of the primary desktop configuration tool.


I could go on, of course. Suffice it to say that if, in order to customize  
one's desktop, one more often will use the tweak tool add-on, instead of the  
readily available settings applications, then someone's priorities are  
definitely wrong.





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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Because it's par for the course


Not in this case.  You have specific behavior which doesn't match anyone
else.  You should create a new user and check.  If you can still reproduce
it, file a bug report.

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f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz

OK, where did it go?

I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

From this I get: adobe-linux-i386.repo

This gave me flash-plugin and in the past AdobeReader  but now no reader.

I did a google search and came up empty.  Any tips?



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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

 I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that, but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.
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Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm

2013-12-27 Thread poma
On 27.12.2013 16:45, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Do you like riddles?  I am not a big fan of them.  If you want to clarify
 something, do so directly

But it is directly! Haha
However maybe you're right, and since you like links here's just one for
you, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4 :)


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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they have to 
do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got:  AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file?


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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Mike Wright

12/27/2013 09:46 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

OK, where did it go?

I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

 From this I get: adobe-linux-i386.repo

This gave me flash-plugin and in the past AdobeReader  but now no reader.

I did a google search and came up empty.  Any tips?


Hi Robert,

Not the solution you asked for but Google's Chrome now supports .pdf 
files natively.


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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

 but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file?

I didn't download the .bin file. They had an rpm choice
available when I downloaded it. With an rpm you
can just say

yum install AdbeRdrwhatever.rpm

and it will automatically pick up all the 32 bit libs that
are dependencies.
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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 01:17 PM, Mike Wright wrote:

12/27/2013 09:46 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

OK, where did it go?

I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

 From this I get: adobe-linux-i386.repo

This gave me flash-plugin and in the past AdobeReader  but now no 
reader.


I did a google search and came up empty.  Any tips?


Hi Robert,

Not the solution you asked for but Google's Chrome now supports .pdf 
files natively.




WIll not use Chrome.  As much as I work with Google in my day job, I got 
issues.


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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 01:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they have 
to do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got:  AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file.


I don't believe this!  I turned AdBlock off for this page, and it is 
nothing but an AD  No instructions on what to do with a .bin file.  
I ASSuME that I move it to /bin or /sbin or some such?  Where is it safe 
to put?



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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file?

I didn't download the .bin file. They had an rpm choice
available when I downloaded it.


can't find it.  I get to http://get.adobe.com/reader/ and the download 
button just does the .bin file.



With an rpm you can just say

yum install AdbeRdrwhatever.rpm

and it will automatically pick up all the 32 bit libs that
are dependencies.


Why I want the .rpm


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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Dan Thurman

On 12/27/2013 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they have 
to do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got:  AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file.


I don't believe this!  I turned AdBlock off for this page, and it is 
nothing but an AD  No instructions on what to do with a .bin 
file.  I ASSuME that I move it to /bin or /sbin or some such?  Where 
is it safe to put?




I think the steps are:

1) Download adobe YUM repo package
(which you did: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm)

Install YUM repo package:
  # yum localinstall ./adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

This creates the YUM repo file for Adobe in:
# ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-i386.repo
   (Make sure repo is enabled=1, use vi)

If the repo file is not there, then it is not installed.

2) List the adobe files available for installation:
   # yum list | grep adobe
   AdobeReader_XXX.YYY (select your language. (English, XXX=enu, 
YYY=i486))

   [...]

3) Yum install AdobeReader_XXX.YYY

4) Good luck finding the Adobe Reader menu icon, but command-line 
executable is:

 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread

Hope this helps!

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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Dan Thurman

On 12/27/2013 10:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank. What do I do with this .bin file?

I didn't download the .bin file. They had an rpm choice
available when I downloaded it.


can't find it.  I get to http://get.adobe.com/reader/ and the download 
button just does the .bin file.



With an rpm you can just say

yum install AdbeRdrwhatever.rpm

and it will automatically pick up all the 32 bit libs that
are dependencies.


Why I want the .rpm



http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Gordon Ewasiuk
Have you tried sh ./adobebinary.bin ?


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote:


 On 12/27/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0500
 Robert Moskowitz wrote:

  but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file?

 I didn't download the .bin file. They had an rpm choice
 available when I downloaded it.


 can't find it.  I get to http://get.adobe.com/reader/ and the download
 button just does the .bin file.


  With an rpm you can just say

 yum install AdbeRdrwhatever.rpm

 and it will automatically pick up all the 32 bit libs that
 are dependencies.


 Why I want the .rpm



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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Dan Thurman

On 12/27/2013 10:57 AM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank. What do I do with this .bin file?

I didn't download the .bin file. They had an rpm choice
available when I downloaded it.


can't find it.  I get to http://get.adobe.com/reader/ and the 
download button just does the .bin file.



With an rpm you can just say

yum install AdbeRdrwhatever.rpm

and it will automatically pick up all the 32 bit libs that
are dependencies.


Why I want the .rpm



http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

Oops!  I got the wrong one...  sorry!
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

Step1: Linux
Step2: English (or your preferred language)
Step3: RPM (Redhat/Fedora)

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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 01:56 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they 
have to do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got:  AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file.


I don't believe this!  I turned AdBlock off for this page, and it is 
nothing but an AD  No instructions on what to do with a .bin 
file.  I ASSuME that I move it to /bin or /sbin or some such?  Where 
is it safe to put?




I think the steps are:

1) Download adobe YUM repo package
(which you did: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm)

Install YUM repo package:
  # yum localinstall ./adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

This creates the YUM repo file for Adobe in:
# ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-i386.repo
   (Make sure repo is enabled=1, use vi)

If the repo file is not there, then it is not installed.


# cat adobe-linux-i386.repo
[adobe-linux-i386]
name=Adobe Systems Incorporated
baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux




2) List the adobe files available for installation:
   # yum list | grep adobe
   AdobeReader_XXX.YYY (select your language. (English, XXX=enu, 
YYY=i486))

   [...]


# yum list | grep adobe
adobe-release-i386.noarch 1.0-1 
@/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch

flash-plugin.i386 11.2.202.332-release  @adobe-linux-i386
adobe-source-code-pro-fonts.noarch 1.017-3.fc20  updates
adobe-source-libraries.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20fedora
adobe-source-libraries-devel.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20fedora
adobe-source-libraries-doc.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20fedora
adobe-source-sans-pro-fonts.noarch 1.050-2.fc20  fedora
texlive-adobemapping.noarch 3:svn28079.0-3.fc20   fedora

No AdobeReader listed  :(


3) Yum install AdobeReader_XXX.YYY

4) Good luck finding the Adobe Reader menu icon, but command-line 
executable is:

 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread

Hope this helps!



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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 01:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank. What do I do with this .bin file?

I didn't download the .bin file. They had an rpm choice
available when I downloaded it.


can't find it.  I get to http://get.adobe.com/reader/ and the download 
button just does the .bin file.



With an rpm you can just say

yum install AdbeRdrwhatever.rpm

and it will automatically pick up all the 32 bit libs that
are dependencies.


Why I want the .rpm


OK.  Did some more googling and found it on: 
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/


This got me:  AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm

But having it in a repo means you get the updates without having to know 
to download again.



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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 02:03 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:57 AM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank. What do I do with this .bin file?

I didn't download the .bin file. They had an rpm choice
available when I downloaded it.


can't find it.  I get to http://get.adobe.com/reader/ and the 
download button just does the .bin file.



With an rpm you can just say

yum install AdbeRdrwhatever.rpm

and it will automatically pick up all the 32 bit libs that
are dependencies.


Why I want the .rpm



http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

Oops!  I got the wrong one...  sorry!
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

Step1: Linux
Step2: English (or your preferred language)
Step3: RPM (Redhat/Fedora)


Yes.  Found this.  thanks.

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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Dan Thurman

On 12/27/2013 11:10 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:56 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they 
have to do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got: AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin file.


I don't believe this!  I turned AdBlock off for this page, and it is 
nothing but an AD  No instructions on what to do with a .bin 
file.  I ASSuME that I move it to /bin or /sbin or some such?  Where 
is it safe to put?




I think the steps are:

1) Download adobe YUM repo package
(which you did: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm)

Install YUM repo package:
  # yum localinstall ./adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

This creates the YUM repo file for Adobe in:
# ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-i386.repo
   (Make sure repo is enabled=1, use vi)

If the repo file is not there, then it is not installed.


# cat adobe-linux-i386.repo
[adobe-linux-i386]
name=Adobe Systems Incorporated
baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux




2) List the adobe files available for installation:
   # yum list | grep adobe
   AdobeReader_XXX.YYY (select your language. (English, XXX=enu, 
YYY=i486))

   [...]


# yum list | grep adobe
adobe-release-i386.noarch 1.0-1 @/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch
flash-plugin.i386 11.2.202.332-release  @adobe-linux-i386
adobe-source-code-pro-fonts.noarch 1.017-3.fc20 updates
adobe-source-libraries.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20fedora
adobe-source-libraries-devel.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-libraries-doc.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-sans-pro-fonts.noarch 1.050-2.fc20 fedora
texlive-adobemapping.noarch 3:svn28079.0-3.fc20   fedora

No AdobeReader listed  :(


3) Yum install AdobeReader_XXX.YYY

4) Good luck finding the Adobe Reader menu icon, but command-line 
executable is:

 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread

Hope this helps!




Ok, I see what is going on...  the adobe repo package does
not list the reader from adobe's site, so you have to separately
download the reader from:
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

Then install:
# yum localinstall adobe reader rpm package

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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Rahul Sundaram writes:


Hi

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
   Because it's par for the course

Not in this case.  You have specific behavior which doesn't match anyone  
else.  You should create a new user and check.  If you can still reproduce  
it, file a bug report.


Creating a new user made no difference, of course. Same behavior –  
launching via gnome3's activities or search starts the shell in the new  
account's home directory. Copying gnome-terminal.desktop into ~/Desktop, and  
launching it from the icon, launches the shell in /.


But I feel a little silly for overlooking the obvious fix: changing the  
icon to execute:


sh -c cd $HOME; gnome-terminal 

Now, on to finding an explanation for systemd spinning its wheels, doing  
absolutely nothing, for two minutes, on every boot…




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Re: Freezing mouse cursor in 19

2013-12-27 Thread Frank McCormick

On 26/12/13 06:13 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:

On 26/12/13 04:26 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 12/26/2013 01:16 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:

The mouse cursor remains in one place but as I move the mouse
around I can see that it's hovering over other things.


So it's only the pointer that stops moving, while the computer knows
that the mouse is in a different position, right?  Have you tried
clicking on something while this is going on, to see if the computer
reacts properly to it?  If it does, we'll have limited the issue to
whatever it is that puts the pointer on the screen.



Yes. the cursor is stuck while it's still sending the proper info to
the computer. If I click on something the computer does the right
thing...changes videos or whatever.
But even if I shutdown Chrome the mouse cursor remains frozen, and if
I get out out of the desktop, the graphics screen of lightdm is totally
corrupted. Then a reboot is the only way to restore things. Sounds like
a video problem to me. I switched Chrome from its internal flash to the
latest adobe flash but there is no change.



   Also discovered it doesn't happen when I am logged in on another 
account on this machine. And that account uses compiz !



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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 02:22 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 11:10 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:56 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they 
have to do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got: AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin 
file.


I don't believe this!  I turned AdBlock off for this page, and it 
is nothing but an AD  No instructions on what to do with a .bin 
file.  I ASSuME that I move it to /bin or /sbin or some such?  
Where is it safe to put?




I think the steps are:

1) Download adobe YUM repo package
(which you did: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm)

Install YUM repo package:
  # yum localinstall ./adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

This creates the YUM repo file for Adobe in:
# ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-i386.repo
   (Make sure repo is enabled=1, use vi)

If the repo file is not there, then it is not installed.


# cat adobe-linux-i386.repo
[adobe-linux-i386]
name=Adobe Systems Incorporated
baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux




2) List the adobe files available for installation:
   # yum list | grep adobe
   AdobeReader_XXX.YYY (select your language. (English, XXX=enu, 
YYY=i486))

   [...]


# yum list | grep adobe
adobe-release-i386.noarch 1.0-1 @/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch
flash-plugin.i386 11.2.202.332-release @adobe-linux-i386
adobe-source-code-pro-fonts.noarch 1.017-3.fc20 updates
adobe-source-libraries.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20fedora
adobe-source-libraries-devel.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-libraries-doc.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-sans-pro-fonts.noarch 1.050-2.fc20 fedora
texlive-adobemapping.noarch 3:svn28079.0-3.fc20   fedora

No AdobeReader listed  :(


3) Yum install AdobeReader_XXX.YYY

4) Good luck finding the Adobe Reader menu icon, but command-line 
executable is:

 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread

Hope this helps!




Ok, I see what is going on...  the adobe repo package does
not list the reader from adobe's site, so you have to separately
download the reader from:
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

Then install:
# yum localinstall adobe reader rpm package


And checking in regularly to see if there is an update.  Fortunately my 
day job gives me heads up if there are any security patches coming out.


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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Dan Thurman

On 12/27/2013 11:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 02:22 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 11:10 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:56 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they 
have to do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got: AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin 
file.


I don't believe this!  I turned AdBlock off for this page, and it 
is nothing but an AD  No instructions on what to do with a 
.bin file.  I ASSuME that I move it to /bin or /sbin or some 
such?  Where is it safe to put?




I think the steps are:

1) Download adobe YUM repo package
(which you did: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm)

Install YUM repo package:
  # yum localinstall ./adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

This creates the YUM repo file for Adobe in:
# ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-i386.repo
   (Make sure repo is enabled=1, use vi)

If the repo file is not there, then it is not installed.


# cat adobe-linux-i386.repo
[adobe-linux-i386]
name=Adobe Systems Incorporated
baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux




2) List the adobe files available for installation:
   # yum list | grep adobe
   AdobeReader_XXX.YYY (select your language. (English, 
XXX=enu, YYY=i486))

   [...]


# yum list | grep adobe
adobe-release-i386.noarch 1.0-1 @/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch
flash-plugin.i386 11.2.202.332-release @adobe-linux-i386
adobe-source-code-pro-fonts.noarch 1.017-3.fc20 updates
adobe-source-libraries.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-libraries-devel.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-libraries-doc.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-sans-pro-fonts.noarch 1.050-2.fc20 fedora
texlive-adobemapping.noarch 3:svn28079.0-3.fc20 fedora

No AdobeReader listed  :(


3) Yum install AdobeReader_XXX.YYY

4) Good luck finding the Adobe Reader menu icon, but command-line 
executable is:

 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread

Hope this helps!




Ok, I see what is going on...  the adobe repo package does
not list the reader from adobe's site, so you have to separately
download the reader from:
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

Then install:
# yum localinstall adobe reader rpm package


And checking in regularly to see if there is an update. Fortunately my 
day job gives me heads up if there are any security patches coming out.



So... you are good to go? ;)

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Re: f20 - acrobat reader where are thou?

2013-12-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/27/2013 02:37 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 11:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 02:22 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 11:10 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:56 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/27/2013 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 01:12 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/27/2013 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:46:17 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I downloaded and installed: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

I don't know where you found that,


adobe.com download flash-plugin via yum path.


  but adobe doesn't seem
interested in supporting yum any longer. The best you can do
these days is go to the adobe.com site and follow the download
links for acrobat and you can get a rpm from the adobe site.


They do seem to support it for flash-plugin.  Maybe becuase they 
have to do security updates so frequently.


Meanwhile for acrobat I got: AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin

but step 3 of 3 is coming up blank.  What do I do with this .bin 
file.


I don't believe this!  I turned AdBlock off for this page, and it 
is nothing but an AD  No instructions on what to do with a 
.bin file.  I ASSuME that I move it to /bin or /sbin or some 
such?  Where is it safe to put?




I think the steps are:

1) Download adobe YUM repo package
(which you did: adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm)

Install YUM repo package:
  # yum localinstall ./adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm

This creates the YUM repo file for Adobe in:
# ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-i386.repo
   (Make sure repo is enabled=1, use vi)

If the repo file is not there, then it is not installed.


# cat adobe-linux-i386.repo
[adobe-linux-i386]
name=Adobe Systems Incorporated
baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/i386/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux




2) List the adobe files available for installation:
   # yum list | grep adobe
   AdobeReader_XXX.YYY (select your language. (English, 
XXX=enu, YYY=i486))

   [...]


# yum list | grep adobe
adobe-release-i386.noarch 1.0-1 @/adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch
flash-plugin.i386 11.2.202.332-release @adobe-linux-i386
adobe-source-code-pro-fonts.noarch 1.017-3.fc20 updates
adobe-source-libraries.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-libraries-devel.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-libraries-doc.i686 1.0.43-19.fc20 fedora
adobe-source-sans-pro-fonts.noarch 1.050-2.fc20 fedora
texlive-adobemapping.noarch 3:svn28079.0-3.fc20 fedora

No AdobeReader listed  :(


3) Yum install AdobeReader_XXX.YYY

4) Good luck finding the Adobe Reader menu icon, but command-line 
executable is:

 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread

Hope this helps!




Ok, I see what is going on...  the adobe repo package does
not list the reader from adobe's site, so you have to separately
download the reader from:
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

Then install:
# yum localinstall adobe reader rpm package


And checking in regularly to see if there is an update. Fortunately 
my day job gives me heads up if there are any security patches coming 
out.



So... you are good to go? ;)


Yes.  It is working.  thanks for all the help.


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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
update::

forgot to list the Display/Device page from the GUI/Install OS process

LVM Volume Groups
VolGroup 237972
lv2_apps  5000   /apps2
lv2_backup  5000   /backup2
lv2_home5000   /home2
lv2_root  1  /
lv_apps  1  /apps
lv_backup   1  /backup
lv_home 1   /home
lv_root51200  /
lv_swap  3824
free   127948

Hard Drive

sda
   sda1  500  /boot   ext4
   sda2 237974  VolGroup   physical volume (LVM)




On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi - I know I should probably post to centos, but I'm testing this
 with centos, and then with fedora.

 I'm trying to basically do a dual boot test, that will allow me to
 dual boot into 2 different versions of centos, although, in this case,
 I'm using the centos 6.5 image.

 I went through the process that I've found from different
 sites/articles, in order to set up the 2 OS installs.

 I can boot into the 1st OS. I have screwed something up, as I'm not
 able to boot into the 2nd OS.

 I don't know if I screwed something up during the Install/Creation
 process via the GUI, or if I've screwed something up during the
 grub.conf modifications.

 Any help/pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

 -


 The system setup:
  -lenovo laptop
  -250G Drive
  -Centos 6.5

 Steps:
  -Went through the initial setup for the OS1
  -setup the root/backup/home/swap
 OS2 - master
 root /  50
 boot
 home  /home   10
 apps  /apps 10
 backup /backup5

 set the boot to be on sda1 - as 500M

 I then went back and installed the 2nd install of the Centos OS
  using
 lv2_root   root   /  10
 boot
 lv2_home home/home2  5
 lv2_apps  apps /apps2   5
 lv2_backup  backup  /backup25

 the boot was set to be the / on the sda so  it's the same as the 1st..
 I also didn't install the bootloader, which was the option on the
 boot/install page of the GUI for the install process

 I then modified the grub.conf page

 #boot=/dev/sda
 default=0
 timeout=5
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 hidemenu
 title Centos (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro
 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD
 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb
 quiet
   initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

 title Centos2 (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
 root (hd0,1)
 kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro root=/dev/sda2
   initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

 

 the fdisk -l for the system is ::
 [root@localhost ~]# fdisk -l

 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x77e3ed41

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1   *   1  64  512000   83  Linux
 Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
 /dev/sda2  64   30402   243685376   8e  Linux LVM
 Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.

 Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root: 53.7 GB, 53687091200 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6527 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x


 Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_swap: 4009 MB, 4009754624 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 487 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x


 Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_home: 10.5 GB, 1048576 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1274 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x


 Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_backup: 10.5 GB, 1048576 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1274 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x


 Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_apps: 10.5 GB, 1048576 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1274 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical):[root@localhost ~]# fdisk -l

 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk 

Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 12:34 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi - I know I should probably post to centos, but I'm testing this
 with centos, and then with fedora.

CentOS 6 uses grub legacy. Fedora uses grub2. They are completely different, 
FYI.

 set the boot to be on sda1 - as 500M

In grub legacy that's (hd0,0)

 
 I then went back and installed the 2nd install of the Centos OS
 using
 lv2_root   root   /  10
 boot
 lv2_home home/home2  5
 lv2_apps  apps /apps2   5
 lv2_backup  backup  /backup25
 
 the boot was set to be the / on the sda so  it's the same as the 1st..

This description isconfusing. You have two / on sda, VolGroup/lv_root and 
VolGroup-lv2_root. I have no idea what same as the 1st means because boot on 
rootfs is not the same thing as CentOS install #1 which uses a separate /boot 
on sda1.



 
 title Centos2 (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
root (hd0,1)

This is pointing to /dev/sda2 which is LVM. /boot cannot be on LVM using grub 
legacy, so in fact you ought to use a single shared /boot since they're the 
same distro.


kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro root=/dev/sda2

The root= entry is completely wrong, you're pointing gruby to an LVM PV rather 
than to the specific 2nd install root LV.

Chris Murphy
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Re: fedup to F20 but did not switch from kdm to sddm

2013-12-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, poma  wrote:

 On 27.12.2013 16:45, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

  Do you like riddles?  I am not a big fan of them.  If you want to clarify
  something, do so directly

 But it is directly! Haha


 Again, what is your point?


 However maybe you're right, and since you like links here's just one for
 you, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4 :)


That is blocked due to copyright infringement not to mention entirely
off-topic to this list.

Rahul
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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Rahul Sundaram writes:

  Hi

 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Because it's par for the course

 Not in this case.  You have specific behavior which doesn't match anyone
 else.  You should create a new user and check.  If you can still reproduce
 it, file a bug report.


 Creating a new user made no difference, of course. Same behavior –
 launching via gnome3's activities or search starts the shell in the new
 account's home directory. Copying gnome-terminal.desktop into ~/Desktop,
 and launching it from the icon, launches the shell in /.


Bug report #?

Rahul
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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
Hi Chris,

For my tests right now, I'm simply trying to get dual Centos up/running,

Based on what you've said, there are errors in what I'm trying to
accomplish. You wouldn't have a few mins to walk me through this would
you.

I'm convinced that this is doable, and that whatever mistakes I've
made are probably subtle/easy to correct.

Do you happen to know of a good tutorial for this that walks through
all the steps.

Thanks



On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2013, at 12:34 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi - I know I should probably post to centos, but I'm testing this
 with centos, and then with fedora.

 CentOS 6 uses grub legacy. Fedora uses grub2. They are completely different, 
 FYI.

 set the boot to be on sda1 - as 500M

 In grub legacy that's (hd0,0)


 I then went back and installed the 2nd install of the Centos OS
 using
 lv2_root   root   /  10
 boot
 lv2_home home/home2  5
 lv2_apps  apps /apps2   5
 lv2_backup  backup  /backup25

 the boot was set to be the / on the sda so  it's the same as the 1st..

 This description isconfusing. You have two / on sda, VolGroup/lv_root and 
 VolGroup-lv2_root. I have no idea what same as the 1st means because boot 
 on rootfs is not the same thing as CentOS install #1 which uses a separate 
 /boot on sda1.




 title Centos2 (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
root (hd0,1)

 This is pointing to /dev/sda2 which is LVM. /boot cannot be on LVM using grub 
 legacy, so in fact you ought to use a single shared /boot since they're the 
 same distro.


kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro root=/dev/sda2

 The root= entry is completely wrong, you're pointing gruby to an LVM PV 
 rather than to the specific 2nd install root LV.

 Chris Murphy
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Chromium and Fedora 20.

2013-12-27 Thread Erik P. Olsen
There is no chromium repo for fedora 20. Will there be no chromium packaged for 
fedora 20 and on?


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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Rahul Sundaram writes:


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HI

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:


   Rahul Sundaram writes:

 Hi

 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
    Because it's par for the course

 Not in this case.  You have specific behavior which doesn't match anyone
 else.  You should create a new user and check.  If you can still
 reproduce it, file a bug report.

   Creating a new user made no difference, of course. Same behavior –
   launching via gnome3's activities or search starts the shell in the new
   account's home directory. Copying gnome-terminal.desktop into ~/Desktop,
   and launching it from the icon, launches the shell in /.

Bug report #?


1046980.




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Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Mike Wright

12/27/2013 02:30 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:17:37 -0800
Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote:


Where does one specify that mailx should be used?

Thanx



Do you mean within claws-mail?


Sorry for the delay.  I was checking out claws-mail...

What I was looking for is how to tell crond to use mailx instead of 
sendmail.

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:48 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 For my tests right now, I'm simply trying to get dual Centos up/running,

OK but why do it the hard way, instead of putting one of them in a VM? Or 
better, Fedora 20, and put two CentOS and another Fedora each in their own VM? 
In that case you don't have to deal with the esoteric, user hostile, world of 
bootloaders on Linux. You can just get to booting multiple OS's. And they boot 
faster.

The only reason for dual booting I can think of is expressly to learn about the 
challenges of getting bootloaders to do dual booting.

 Based on what you've said, there are errors in what I'm trying to
 accomplish. You wouldn't have a few mins to walk me through this would
 you.

It's a lot more than that I can assure you. It took me more time than I care to 
admit, and if I could get that time back from the life blood sucking experience 
it was, I'd probably do that.

remove hidemenu so you can see the menu, and duplicate the two entries, 
changing just the one thing that matters which is the menu entry name, and the 
root. You do not need separate swaps either.


hidemenu
title Centos (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro
root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD
rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb
quiet
 initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

title Centos2 (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
   root (hd0,0)   kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro
root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv2_root rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD
rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv2_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb
quiet
 initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

 
 I'm convinced that this is doable, and that whatever mistakes I've
 made are probably subtle/easy to correct.
 
 Do you happen to know of a good tutorial for this that walks through
 all the steps.

Not really. It's the domain of bad documentation designed for developers, not 
users. I learned what I learned via immense suffering and blunt contact.


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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy
Do over, missing new line:

hidemenu
title Centos (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root 
rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap 
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc 
KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb quiet
  initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

title Centos2 (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
  root (hd0,0)   
  kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv2_root 
rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap 
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv2_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc 
KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb quiet
  initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

Probably best to use this one in case email messes up the lines or whatever.

http://ur1.ca/g9s4s

Also note that for grub2, hd0,0 becomes hd0,1. And all the dracut notations are 
different. Oh, and grub.cfg is no longer supposed to be directly edited, you're 
supposed to use /etc/default/grub and grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg 
which creates grub.cfg from scratch and replaces it based on what it finds 
installed.

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Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:01:42 -0800
Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote:

 Sorry for the delay.  I was checking out claws-mail...
 
 What I was looking for is how to tell crond to use mailx instead of
 sendmail.

You don't need to.
it was always the mail command that done  it. (iirc) 
http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_38.html

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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:35:27 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

  Bug report #?
 
 1046980.

Is that with or without SELinux enforcing mode?
If with SELinux, is it reproducible also with SELinux permissive mode?
Some programs enter fs root, if something is wrong with /home.
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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
Hi Chris.

Thanks fo.r the reply
.
The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
hear it!!


Everything I've seen regarding doing reinstalling of OS, requires
having access to the box, with fresh media.

This is really intended to allow me to detect if the base/master
system has been hacked, and then to immeadiately switch to the minimal
OS/system, which would then invoke a netinstall for the hacked
system/OS to have a clean system.

So, the test is to have a dual Centos process, which is what I'm
looking to implement right now.

Here are the current steps I've used, feel free to tell me where I've
gone off track.

-Centos6.5
-Lenovo
-250G Drive


OS1
-insert the centos 6.5 dvd
-select the fresh install
-basic storage device
-Fresh Installation
-Create Custom Layout
  (-Please Select Device)

LVM Volume Groups
VolGroup 237972
lv_apps  1  /apps
lv_backup   1  /backup
lv_home 1   /home
lv_root51200  /
lv_swap  3824
free   127948

Hard Drive

sda
   sda1  500  /boot   ext4
   sda2 237974  VolGroup   physical volume (LVM)

Now, at this point, I get a valid OS/grub.conf

However, when I try to install the 2nd OS is when I run into issues..

So, here's what I'm trying to figure out. When I get to the (Please
Select Device) page, what do I have to insert to create the minimal
OS/system for the 2nd OS install.

For the 2nd install, I'm looking to implement a system that has the
backup/apps/home/root dirs (mt points)

Do I have to have completely separate partitions for each of the OS
installs? If I do, how/where do they get created?

I think this is close, but again, without really knowing how to do
this, one could spend hours/days on this!

Thanks




On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
 Do over, missing new line:

 hidemenu
 title Centos (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root 
 rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap 
 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc 
 KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb quiet
   initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

 title Centos2 (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv2_root 
 rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap 
 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv2_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc 
 KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb quiet
   initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

 Probably best to use this one in case email messes up the lines or whatever.

 http://ur1.ca/g9s4s

 Also note that for grub2, hd0,0 becomes hd0,1. And all the dracut notations 
 are different. Oh, and grub.cfg is no longer supposed to be directly edited, 
 you're supposed to use /etc/default/grub and grub2-mkconfig -o 
 /boot/grub2/grub.cfg which creates grub.cfg from scratch and replaces it 
 based on what it finds installed.

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
Hi Chris.

Thanks fo.r the reply
.
The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
hear it!!


Everything I've seen regarding doing reinstalling of OS, requires
having access to the box, with fresh media.

This is really intended to allow me to detect if the base/master
system has been hacked, and then to immeadiately switch to the minimal
OS/system, which would then invoke a netinstall for the hacked
system/OS to have a clean system.

So, the test is to have a dual Centos process, which is what I'm
looking to implement right now.

Here are the current steps I've used, feel free to tell me where I've
gone off track.

-Centos6.5
-Lenovo
-250G Drive


OS1
-insert the centos 6.5 dvd
-select the fresh install
-basic storage device
-Fresh Installation
-Create Custom Layout

LVM Volume Groups
VolGroup 237972
lv2_apps  5000   /apps2
lv2_backup  5000   /backup2
lv2_home5000   /home2
lv2_root  1  /
lv_apps  1  /apps
lv_backup   1  /backup
lv_home 1   /home
lv_root51200  /
lv_swap  3824
free   127948

Hard Drive

sda
   sda1  500  /boot   ext4
   sda2 237974  VolGroup   physical volume (LVM)

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:48 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris,

 For my tests right now, I'm simply trying to get dual Centos up/running,

 OK but why do it the hard way, instead of putting one of them in a VM? Or 
 better, Fedora 20, and put two CentOS and another Fedora each in their own 
 VM? In that case you don't have to deal with the esoteric, user hostile, 
 world of bootloaders on Linux. You can just get to booting multiple OS's. And 
 they boot faster.

 The only reason for dual booting I can think of is expressly to learn about 
 the challenges of getting bootloaders to do dual booting.

 Based on what you've said, there are errors in what I'm trying to
 accomplish. You wouldn't have a few mins to walk me through this would
 you.

 It's a lot more than that I can assure you. It took me more time than I care 
 to admit, and if I could get that time back from the life blood sucking 
 experience it was, I'd probably do that.

 remove hidemenu so you can see the menu, and duplicate the two entries, 
 changing just the one thing that matters which is the menu entry name, and 
 the root. You do not need separate swaps either.


 hidemenu
 title Centos (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro
 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD
 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb
 quiet
  initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img

 title Centos2 (2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64)
root (hd0,0)   kernel /vmlinux-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64 ro
 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv2_root rd_NO_LUKS LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD
 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
 rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv2_root  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb
 quiet
  initrd /initramfs-2.6.32-431.e16.x86_64.img


 I'm convinced that this is doable, and that whatever mistakes I've
 made are probably subtle/easy to correct.

 Do you happen to know of a good tutorial for this that walks through
 all the steps.

 Not really. It's the domain of bad documentation designed for developers, not 
 users. I learned what I learned via immense suffering and blunt contact.


 Chris Murphy
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Re: Chromium and Fedora 20.

2013-12-27 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is no chromium repo for fedora 20. Will there be no chromium packaged
 for fedora 20 and on?


There was no Chromium browser in F19 either. You can install Chrome
from Google using their repo.
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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Edward M

On 12/27/2013 3:15 PM, bruce wrote:

The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
hear it!!


Everything I've seen regarding doing reinstalling of OS, requires
having access to the box, with fresh media.

This is really intended to allow me to detect if the base/master
system has been hacked, and then to immeadiately switch to the minimal
OS/system, which would then invoke a netinstall for the hacked
system/OS to have a clean system.


 Please excuse me for late to the party(discussion)

  I'm not understanding, Are you saying if you suspect your main 
install is compromise you can simply reboot into the second
  OS installed on the same computer? if that is case, my opinion 
is,  the second os can also be compromise and forensics analysis of the 
whole
  system would need to be done, for example, reconstructing a 
breach,etc.

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:40 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris.
 
 Thanks fo.r the reply
 .
 The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
 ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
 box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
 hear it!!

USB key imaged with netinstl ISO is has a way to confirm it hasn't been 
altered, and a VNC and kickstart capability for unattended installation over a 
network.


 Everything I've seen regarding doing reinstalling of OS, requires
 having access to the box, with fresh media.

Well it is easier to do it that way, completely remote setups have more fail 
points. You ultimately need the ability to get physical access to it anyway - 
hard drive dies, etc.

 
 This is really intended to allow me to detect if the base/master
 system has been hacked, and then to immeadiately switch to the minimal
 OS/system, which would then invoke a netinstall for the hacked
 system/OS to have a clean system.

I'm not a security expert or a lawyer, but this use case seems specious. 
Firstly, in any business use case it seems to me the machine needs to be 
preserved for forensic analysis. You shouldn't just obliterate it and 
reinstall, that's destruction of evidence, it very well could be illegal.

In any case, if the primary system is hacked, the minimal system is also likely 
compromised. If it has write once media in it, like a CD/DVD,  you can create 
known reliable media that can boot a live environment from which you can ATA 
Secure Erase the drives, and reinstall a system. But this isn't dual boot in 
the sense that there are two OS's on one physical drive.

 So, the test is to have a dual Centos process, which is what I'm
 looking to implement right now.

Maybe someone with more security and VM experience can speak up. But it seems 
to me that the setup and management of all of this is a lot easier if you have 
a rather locked down baremetal setup, and then you have one or more virtual 
machines that are more exposed. And if they get hacked, it's a ton more 
straightforward to preserve its virtual disk, point the VM to a backup image, 
replace keys and passwords, and get it up and running in minutes vs hours for a 
truly clean install of a baremetal setup.


 Here are the current steps I've used, feel free to tell me where I've
 gone off track.

I already gave you the proper grub.conf 2nd entry. That's what you got wrong 
and why it won't boot. It's pointing to the wrong root which is what I said 
from the beginning.



Chris Murphy

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:40 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris.
 
 Thanks fo.r the reply
 .
 The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
 ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
 box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
 hear it!!
 
 USB key imaged with netinstl ISO is has a way to confirm it hasn't been 
 altered, and a VNC and kickstart capability for unattended installation over 
 a network.

So actually, if I have compromised a system with that USB stick pre-inserted, I 
can create a custom kernel that causes hacked install image on that media to 
pass checksum. The apparently valid checksum would seem to imply the key hasn't 
been hacked. But since it has been, my hacked kernel can install a rootkit or 
other such malware in the course of you reinstalling the system. So I think 
this is invalid short of it leveraging UEFI Secure Boot.

Chris Murphy

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 27, 2013 4:15 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris.

 Thanks fo.r the reply
 .
 The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
 ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
 box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
 hear it!!


 Everything I've seen regarding doing reinstalling of OS, requires
 having access to the box, with fresh media.

 This is really intended to allow me to detect if the base/master
 system has been hacked, and then to immeadiately switch to the minimal
 OS/system, which would then invoke a netinstall for the hacked
 system/OS to have a clean system.

 So, the test is to have a dual Centos process, which is what I'm
 looking to implement right now.



I am perpetually curious about this process. How do you intend to invoke a
net install from a minimal installation?

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
Chris..


I already gave you the proper grub.conf 2nd entry. That's what you got
wrong and why it won't boot. It's pointing to the wrong root which is
what I said from the beginning.


Right, but I'm not sure what I need to correct in the Install GUI for
the 2nd OS Install process in order to match what you posted.

In particular, do I simply select the sda for the boot partition?



On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:40 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris.

 Thanks fo.r the reply
 .
 The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
 ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
 box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
 hear it!!

 USB key imaged with netinstl ISO is has a way to confirm it hasn't been 
 altered, and a VNC and kickstart capability for unattended installation over 
 a network.


 Everything I've seen regarding doing reinstalling of OS, requires
 having access to the box, with fresh media.

 Well it is easier to do it that way, completely remote setups have more fail 
 points. You ultimately need the ability to get physical access to it anyway - 
 hard drive dies, etc.


 This is really intended to allow me to detect if the base/master
 system has been hacked, and then to immeadiately switch to the minimal
 OS/system, which would then invoke a netinstall for the hacked
 system/OS to have a clean system.

 I'm not a security expert or a lawyer, but this use case seems specious. 
 Firstly, in any business use case it seems to me the machine needs to be 
 preserved for forensic analysis. You shouldn't just obliterate it and 
 reinstall, that's destruction of evidence, it very well could be illegal.

 In any case, if the primary system is hacked, the minimal system is also 
 likely compromised. If it has write once media in it, like a CD/DVD,  you can 
 create known reliable media that can boot a live environment from which you 
 can ATA Secure Erase the drives, and reinstall a system. But this isn't dual 
 boot in the sense that there are two OS's on one physical drive.

 So, the test is to have a dual Centos process, which is what I'm
 looking to implement right now.

 Maybe someone with more security and VM experience can speak up. But it seems 
 to me that the setup and management of all of this is a lot easier if you 
 have a rather locked down baremetal setup, and then you have one or more 
 virtual machines that are more exposed. And if they get hacked, it's a ton 
 more straightforward to preserve its virtual disk, point the VM to a backup 
 image, replace keys and passwords, and get it up and running in minutes vs 
 hours for a truly clean install of a baremetal setup.


 Here are the current steps I've used, feel free to tell me where I've
 gone off track.

 I already gave you the proper grub.conf 2nd entry. That's what you got wrong 
 and why it won't boot. It's pointing to the wrong root which is what I said 
 from the beginning.



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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
Pete.

The 1st OS will be the os that gets run, it's the master.. However
if I detect that it's hacked, I want to be able to reinstall the OS.

Noramlly, you'd do that with a cd, and do it manually, but if you
don't have access to the box, then what?

My approach is to have a 2nd minimal system/OS that has the only
function to invoke a complete/fresh netinstall to restore/refresh the
OS on the 1st system.

This allows the 1st OS/system to be completely restored, wiping out
any remnants of the hacked process.

At the same time, the master/2nd OS will periodically update/restore
the minimal/1st OS by the 2nd OS/system. This process allows the
system to be able to be refreshed as required, with a clean OS..

If you have a better approach, I'm open for discussion.



On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2013 4:15 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris.

 Thanks fo.r the reply
 .
 The principle reason for doing/testing dual boot is to have the
 ability to be able to do a remote reinstall for a fresh OS on a remote
 box. If you know of a way to accomplish that, I'm more than willing to
 hear it!!


 Everything I've seen regarding doing reinstalling of OS, requires
 having access to the box, with fresh media.

 This is really intended to allow me to detect if the base/master
 system has been hacked, and then to immeadiately switch to the minimal
 OS/system, which would then invoke a netinstall for the hacked
 system/OS to have a clean system.

 So, the test is to have a dual Centos process, which is what I'm
 looking to implement right now.



 I am perpetually curious about this process. How do you intend to invoke a
 net install from a minimal installation?

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:44 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris..
 
 
 I already gave you the proper grub.conf 2nd entry. That's what you got
 wrong and why it won't boot. It's pointing to the wrong root which is
 what I said from the beginning.
 
 
 Right, but I'm not sure what I need to correct in the Install GUI for
 the 2nd OS Install process in order to match what you posted.

If you point the two installers to two different primary partitions so they get 
separate /boot directories, you'll get to see their unique installer created 
grub.conf and you can see the differences.

 
 In particular, do I simply select the sda for the boot partition?

No. You either need to point the installer to sda1 twice (once for each 
install), or you need to create three primary partitions: sda1 boot for install 
#1, sda2 will be LVM which both installs can use, and sda3 will be boot for 
install #2.

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
Hi again Chris!

I owe you OJ/Beer/Pizza!

With regards to creating the 3 partitions, umm.. using the
Installation GUI, where does that happen? I can't seem to find it on
the Create Custom Layout Page. Am I looking at the wrong/right place?

thanks


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:44 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris..


 I already gave you the proper grub.conf 2nd entry. That's what you got
 wrong and why it won't boot. It's pointing to the wrong root which is
 what I said from the beginning.
 

 Right, but I'm not sure what I need to correct in the Install GUI for
 the 2nd OS Install process in order to match what you posted.

 If you point the two installers to two different primary partitions so they 
 get separate /boot directories, you'll get to see their unique installer 
 created grub.conf and you can see the differences.


 In particular, do I simply select the sda for the boot partition?

 No. You either need to point the installer to sda1 twice (once for each 
 install), or you need to create three primary partitions: sda1 boot for 
 install #1, sda2 will be LVM which both installs can use, and sda3 will be 
 boot for install #2.

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 19:49:42 -0500
bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:
 My approach is to have a 2nd minimal system/OS that has the only
 function to invoke a complete/fresh netinstall to restore/refresh the
 OS on the 1st system.

How exactly (step by step, please) do you intend to invoke the
netinstall from the installed minimal system? 

Best, :-)
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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 27, 2013 5:49 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pete.

 The 1st OS will be the os that gets run, it's the master.. However
 if I detect that it's hacked, I want to be able to reinstall the OS.

 Noramlly, you'd do that with a cd, and do it manually, but if you
 don't have access to the box, then what?

 My approach is to have a 2nd minimal system/OS that has the only
 function to invoke a complete/fresh netinstall to restore/refresh the
 OS on the 1st system.


Yes, but how do you plan to actually do it? Do you intend to write your own
installation program from scratch?  What makes a minimal installation
capable of performing a net install?

 This allows the 1st OS/system to be completely restored, wiping out
 any remnants of the hacked process.

 At the same time, the master/2nd OS will periodically update/restore
 the minimal/1st OS by the 2nd OS/system. This process allows the
 system to be able to be refreshed as required, with a clean OS..

 If you have a better approach, I'm open for discussion.


I do, but you don't seem interested. If you want to perform an
installation, boot the installer.  If you want to install using an
alternative boot option instead of with removable media, do a medialess
installation. There are instructions and examples in the installation
guide.

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failed to ..

2013-12-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

After I clone a / partition I cannot boot it. I get 3 errors:
failed to start create static modes in /dev
failed to start journal service
failed to open pack file: permission denied.

The last one seems to be the more serious one. However, it may due to the
previous ones.

Thank for your help.


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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:49 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pete.
 
 The 1st OS will be the os that gets run, it's the master.. However
 if I detect that it's hacked, I want to be able to reinstall the OS.

What if the drive dies? What method are you going to use to get back up and 
running as soon as possible? And why is that method invalid for the hacked use 
case? Why wouldn't you have that drive imaged onto another drive, so that if 
the first one dies, you can replace it and be up and running quickly? 
Reinstalling is going to take a while and you have all sorts of unknowns that 
haven't been figured out. It sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption that 
doesn't really meet the first requirement you have, and can't be easily 
repurposed for other failure cases. So it's a single use kitchen tool that also 
doesn't work very well. I think you need to rethink your approach.

 My approach is to have a 2nd minimal system/OS that has the only
 function to invoke a complete/fresh netinstall to restore/refresh the
 OS on the 1st system.

Nope, won't work. 1st system is compromised? The 2nd one must be assumed to be 
compromised.

 This allows the 1st OS/system to be completely restored, wiping out
 any remnants of the hacked process.

Which as I said before is almost certainly illegal destruction of evidence, you 
should be asking a lawyer about this.


 
 At the same time, the master/2nd OS will periodically update/restore
 the minimal/1st OS by the 2nd OS/system. This process allows the
 system to be able to be refreshed as required, with a clean OS..

This makes no sense.


 
 If you have a better approach, I'm open for discussion.

Well no, you chopped that part of the conversation out entirely, twice for me, 
no response to Edward's concerns along the same lines

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Re: dual boot test

2013-12-27 Thread bruce
Chris.

At the basic level, if I could somehow run a cmd and somehow invoke a
os install for the existing system, that would be great. IE, if I
had an image that could be downloaded to get a complete
refresh/reinstall that's what I'm looking for.

So, starting from the start, how can I get there, without having
access to the system. And I fully recognize that the soln that gets
developed will not be perfection.

So, if you want to get together to discuss. Hell, I'll do pizza!


Thanks


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:49 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pete.

 The 1st OS will be the os that gets run, it's the master.. However
 if I detect that it's hacked, I want to be able to reinstall the OS.

 What if the drive dies? What method are you going to use to get back up and 
 running as soon as possible? And why is that method invalid for the hacked 
 use case? Why wouldn't you have that drive imaged onto another drive, so that 
 if the first one dies, you can replace it and be up and running quickly? 
 Reinstalling is going to take a while and you have all sorts of unknowns that 
 haven't been figured out. It sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption that 
 doesn't really meet the first requirement you have, and can't be easily 
 repurposed for other failure cases. So it's a single use kitchen tool that 
 also doesn't work very well. I think you need to rethink your approach.

 My approach is to have a 2nd minimal system/OS that has the only
 function to invoke a complete/fresh netinstall to restore/refresh the
 OS on the 1st system.

 Nope, won't work. 1st system is compromised? The 2nd one must be assumed to 
 be compromised.

 This allows the 1st OS/system to be completely restored, wiping out
 any remnants of the hacked process.

 Which as I said before is almost certainly illegal destruction of evidence, 
 you should be asking a lawyer about this.



 At the same time, the master/2nd OS will periodically update/restore
 the minimal/1st OS by the 2nd OS/system. This process allows the
 system to be able to be refreshed as required, with a clean OS..

 This makes no sense.



 If you have a better approach, I'm open for discussion.

 Well no, you chopped that part of the conversation out entirely, twice for 
 me, no response to Edward's concerns along the same lines

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Re: failed to ..

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 After I clone a / partition I cannot boot it. 

Exactly how did you clone it? Did you update fstab and rebuild the initramfs?


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Re: relabel

2013-12-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello Chris,

I am back with you.
Thinking about your suggestion.
I generate a file: /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
and
a file initramfs
but these files are on the clone.
If I understand (I guess) the point in generating a new initramfs, I do not
see the point in generating a new grub.cfg file since it is not seen 
during the grub2 precessing since the grub.cfg file used in on the
cloned partition until a make a new grub2-install /dev/sda
from the clone.
Anyway, in my opinion, the issue is when grub executes:

menuentry 'Fedora, with Linux 3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE' --class fedora --class 
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 
'gnulinux-3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE-advanced-69ee06ed-3f6a-4b9f-9b86-6e24c1847cf6'
 {
        set gfxpayload=text
        insmod gzio
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ext2
        set root='hd0,msdos16'
        if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos16 
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos16 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos16 --hint='hd0,msdos16'  
c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
        else
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
        fi

because the clone partition is not correct.
Something is missing:
failed to start creat static device mode in /dev
failed to start journal
etc...

To me looks like that the services are not started!!!
how the /dev partition is created?


What do yo think?

Regards.

 On Dec 25, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  I wanted to clone my distribution fedora 19, I used to do it with
  previous release but I failed with fedora 19.
  
  I copy (-a) the partition / (lvm2) and /boot (ext4)
 
 You probably need to remake the initramfs. The easiest way to do all of this 
 after the cp -a of everything is to put together the clone at /mnt such that 
 you have /mnt as rootfs, then /mnt/boot, and then use mount -B to mount the 
 faux file systems, /proc, /dev/, /sys at their respective locations, 
 /mnt/proc, /mnt/dev, /mnt/sys. Then chroot /mnt.
 
 Now blkid to find the uuids for /boot and /, and change fstab so that it's 
 mounting the right volumes. Use dracut -f to make a new initramfs. And then 
 grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg to make a new grub.cfg.
 
 If you started out with a system with correct labels, the cp -a will preserve 
 them as it implies -Z so fixfiles/restorecon isn't needed.
 
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Re: failed to ..

2013-12-27 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Murphy
 Sent: 12/28/13 02:33 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: failed to ..
 
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  After I clone a / partition I cannot boot it. 
 
 Exactly how did you clone it? Did you update fstab and rebuild the initramfs?
As I said, the clone as been created from another distribution
the cp -a /boot_cloned and /boot_clone (when partition not active).
I created a new initramfs, but as I said the problem seem to appear before
the:
linux   /vmlinuz-3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE root=/dev/mapper/VolGrpSys3-root ro 
vconsole.keymap=fr rd.dm=0  rd.md=0 rd.luks=0 vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16 
rd.lvm.lv=VolGrpSys3/root
initrd  /initramfs-3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE.img

I am saying so because, if replace the clone by the cloned partition, I get the 
same
errors.
In my opnion, the error is here:
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos16 
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos16 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos16 --hint='hd0,msdos16'  
c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
  else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
  fi
or earlier!!


Please note that /dev/sda16 and UUID=c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b are 
the
same partition



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Re: relabel

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:

 Hello Chris,
 
 I am back with you.
 Thinking about your suggestion.

How did you clone it? Did you use cp? Did you use rsync? What was the exact 
command?


 I generate a file: /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

Did you use chroot at all? That is, did you mount the clone's parts, bind the 
dev, proc, sys file system, and then chroot the clone, and then from within 
chroot did you grub2-install, grub2-mkconfig, and run dracut?


 If I understand (I guess) the point in generating a new initramfs, I do not
 see the point in generating a new grub.cfg file since it is not seen 
 during the grub2 precessing since the grub.cfg file used in on the
 cloned partition until a make a new grub2-install /dev/sda
 from the clone.

That's why you chroot the clone, then run all of these commands, otherwise they 
do not produce correct results for the clone.


 Anyway, in my opinion, the issue is when grub executes:
 
 menuentry 'Fedora, with Linux 3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE' --class fedora 
 --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 
 'gnulinux-3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE-advanced-69ee06ed-3f6a-4b9f-9b86-6e24c1847cf6'
  {
set gfxpayload=text
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos16'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos16 
 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos16 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos16 --hint='hd0,msdos16'  
 c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
 c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
fi
 
 because the clone partition is not correct.
 Something is missing:
 failed to start creat static device mode in /dev
 failed to start journal
 etc...
 
 To me looks like that the services are not started!!!
 how the /dev partition is created?

The clone is on another drive? And is that drive in the same computer or a 
different computer?


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Re: failed to ..

2013-12-27 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:

 the cp -a /boot_cloned and /boot_clone (when partition not active).

I don't follow this. You used cp /dev/sda /dev/sdb? Device to device? Or you 
specified directories to copy? I've had cp -a of directories not work, in 
particular it misses hidden files unless you explicitly copy them. I've had 
better luck with rsync. And I've had impressively good luck with btrfs 
send/receive, that's a cake walk, and fast.

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Re: relabel

2013-12-27 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello Chris,
  
  I am back with you.
  Thinking about your suggestion.
 
 How did you clone it? Did you use cp? Did you use rsync? What was the exact 
 command?
 
 
  I generate a file: /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
 
 Did you use chroot at all?
Yes I did
 That is, did you mount the clone's parts, bind the dev, proc, sys file system, 
and then chroot the clone, and then from within chroot
Yes I did
 did you grub2-install,
No, because it change the mbr and then going to use the clone grub.cfg. And I 
did not
when to do it because teh clone works. Am I wrong?
 grub2-mkconfig, and run dracut?
YEs

 
  If I understand (I guess) the point in generating a new initramfs, I do not
  see the point in generating a new grub.cfg file since it is not seen 
  during the grub2 precessing since the grub.cfg file used in on the
  cloned partition until a make a new grub2-install /dev/sda
  from the clone.
 
 That's why you chroot the clone, then run all of these commands, otherwise 
 they do not produce correct results for the clone.
 
 
  Anyway, in my opinion, the issue is when grub executes:
  
  menuentry 'Fedora, with Linux 3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE' --class fedora 
  --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 
  'gnulinux-3.12.5-200.fc19.i686.PAE-advanced-69ee06ed-3f6a-4b9f-9b86-6e24c1847cf6'
   {
  set gfxpayload=text
  insmod gzio
  insmod part_msdos
  insmod ext2
  set root='hd0,msdos16'
  if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos16 
  --hint-efi=hd0,msdos16 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos16 --hint='hd0,msdos16' 
  c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
  else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root c2010fed-5fcf-4c59-bca9-10922b131d8b
  fi
  
  because the clone partition is not correct.
  Something is missing:
  failed to start creat static device mode in /dev
  failed to start journal
  etc...
  
  To me looks like that the services are not started!!!
  how the /dev partition is created?
 
 The clone is on another drive? And is that drive in the same computer or a 
 different computer?
Same drive
clone
/boot on /dev/sda16
/ on VolGrpSys3-root
cloned
boot on /dev/sda6
/ on VolGrpSys2-root

 
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Re: failed to ..

2013-12-27 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Murphy
 Sent: 12/28/13 03:04 AM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: failed to ..
 
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  the cp -a /boot_cloned and /boot_clone (when partition not active).
 
 I don't follow this.
I did this tons of times before without problem
Actually I did:
mount VolGrpSys2-root /mnt/linux1 - o ro
mount VolGrpSys3-root /mnt/linux2
cp -a /mnt/linux1/* /mnt/linux2
In the past it did not miss directories. Would it do it know?
I do not like to use dd, because I want to keep the size of the 2 patitions are 
different
I could use tar -c tar -x
 You used cp /dev/sda /dev/sdb? Device to device? Or you specified directories 
to copy? I've had cp -a of directories not work, in particular it misses hidden 
files unless you explicitly copy them. I've had better luck with rsync. And 
I've had impressively good luck with btrfs send/receive, that's a cake walk, 
and fast.
 
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Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory

2013-12-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Michael Schwendt writes:


On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:35:27 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

  Bug report #?

 1046980.

Is that with or without SELinux enforcing mode?
If with SELinux, is it reproducible also with SELinux permissive mode?
Some programs enter fs root, if something is wrong with /home.


selinux is permissive.

Previously, experimentation showed that gnome-terminal spawns a shell with  
the current directory inherited from the parent process, and nautilus now  
appears to run with its current directory as /. I'm guessing that in F19  
nautilus 3.8 ran with $HOME for its current directory, and F20's nautilus  
3.10 runs from /. Just guessing that this is really nautilus's bug. I think  
a good argument can be made for nautilus to reset to $HOME after forking off  
a child process for a launched application, if it's running from /.


mrsam 3394 1  0 13:05 ?00:00:07 /usr/bin/nautilus 
--no-default-window
mrsam10597 10240  0 21:46 pts/100:00:00 grep --color=auto nautilus
[mrsam@monster ~]$ ls -al /proc/3394/cwd
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mrsam mrsam 0 Dec 27 21:46 /proc/3394/cwd - /



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Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-27 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe 
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system 
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or 
email address and prevent them from hitting your Inbox, I would like to 
know if anyone knows of a way to filter your messages in a sort of 
reverse order.in other words instead of me telling the Mail Filter 
Rule: Block anything with the email address of (ABC@123) I would like it 
to be Allow everything from (123@ABC) and block Everything Else...how 
would one go about doing this using Fedora 20 and Thunderbird? Any help 
would be greatly appreciated



Thank You


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Re: Chromium and Fedora 20.

2013-12-27 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 28/12/13 00:51, Steven Rosenberg wrote:

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:

There is no chromium repo for fedora 20. Will there be no chromium packaged
for fedora 20 and on?



There was no Chromium browser in F19 either. You can install Chrome
from Google using their repo.

There actually is chromium in F19: 
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium-stable/


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