Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Tim]

On Fri, 2016-05-27 at 15:10 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> Running F23, mate desktop and compiz.
> 
> Each time I login the three volume keys on my
> keyboard cause no action.  If I go into the
> program "/usr/bin/mate-keyboard-properties"
> either as a CLI or the System->Preferences menu
> and immediately exit the keys work as expected.

Going off from a related tangent from other suggestions, have a look at
your session preferences for startup programs - the ones that are
automatically fired off when you login (generally system things, rather
than applications that you've used).

On my older-than-yours installation using Mate, one of them is the MATE
Settings Daemon.  That sounds a prime candidate for your issue.  Check
that it is ticked.  Or even try the Windows toggle off-back-on-again
trick.

While you're in there, you may find a bunch of things that auto start
that you don't use.  You can switch them off for less things to wait for
when you log-in.

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Re: Balsa -

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/28/16 06:23, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 05/27/16 15:37, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>>
>> You're right, I didn't explain what stunnel did.  I suppose I expect people 
>> to
>> investigate before running commands given by strangers. :-)
> +
>
> As a frequent contributor to this list you have acquired a good degree of 
> credibility
> among those of us who need help and follow the list. So there may be a 
> tendency to just
> follow instructions offered and consider the details afterward.
>
> Very little computer activity today, mainly fixing horse pasture fences, and 
> there's
> still more to be done, some changes ...
>
There is one thing you may want to consider to make your life and the life of 
those trying
to help a bit easier.

As a "Wildblue" customer are you allowed more than one email account with your
subscription?  If the answer is "yes" you may want to think about creating a 
"test"
account for someone, say Samuel if he is willing, to use and see if they can 
get it
working.  It may be much faster that way.

Just a thought.


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Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/27/2016 02:30 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:52:28PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/27/2016 01:49 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

I've saved a session with the keys functioning but it had no effect
on them next login, they were off.


Thank you; at least we've eliminated one possible answer.  As I told a
caller once when I was doing tech support, "Much of trouble shooting is
going down one blind alley after another until one of them isn't."


One other bit;  I'm using a Logitech wireless keyboard, model K800.
It shares the "Unifying" usb-receiver with my mouse.

Mate's keyboard properties dialog shows many Logitech models but
not the K800.  I've set the model type to generic "Logitech Cordless".


Sounds like the keyboard shortcuts aren't being saved. You could post
a question on the Mate message board:

http://forums.mate-desktop.org/

or join the #mate channel on irc.freenode.net and ask there. They
might be able to help.
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Re: Balsa -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 05/27/16 15:37, Samuel Sieb wrote:


You're right, I didn't explain what stunnel did.  I suppose I expect 
people to investigate before running commands given by strangers. :-)

+

As a frequent contributor to this list you have acquired a good degree 
of credibility among those of us who need help and follow the list. So 
there may be a tendency to just follow instructions offered and consider 
the details afterward.


Very little computer activity today, mainly fixing horse pasture fences, 
and there's still more to be done, some changes ...


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Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Jon LaBadie]

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:52:28PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/27/2016 01:49 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > I've saved a session with the keys functioning but it had no effect
> > on them next login, they were off.
> 
> Thank you; at least we've eliminated one possible answer.  As I told a
> caller once when I was doing tech support, "Much of trouble shooting is
> going down one blind alley after another until one of them isn't."

One other bit;  I'm using a Logitech wireless keyboard, model K800.
It shares the "Unifying" usb-receiver with my mouse.

Mate's keyboard properties dialog shows many Logitech models but
not the K800.  I've set the model type to generic "Logitech Cordless".

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Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Joe Zeff]

On 05/27/2016 01:49 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

I've saved a session with the keys functioning but it had no effect
on them next login, they were off.


Thank you; at least we've eliminated one possible answer.  As I told a 
caller once when I was doing tech support, "Much of trouble shooting is 
going down one blind alley after another until one of them isn't."

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Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Jon LaBadie]

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:44:09PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 05/27/2016 12:10 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > Running F23, mate desktop and compiz.
> > 
> > Each time I login the three volume keys on my
> > keyboard cause no action.  If I go into the
> > program "/usr/bin/mate-keyboard-properties"
> > either as a CLI or the System->Preferences menu
> > and immediately exit the keys work as expected.
> > 
> > Can anyone suggest a way to activate the volume
> > keys automatically on login?
> 
> I use Xfce so this may not apply, but have you saved your session?
> 
> I'm not sure about Mate, but IIRC, by default session info isn't saved
> under Xfce unless you go into "Applications->Settings->Session and
> Startup" and tick the "Save Session on Logout" box in the "General" tab
> and either log out or go to the "Session" tab and click the "Save
> Session" button (which I generally do any time I change stuff here).

Mate has that also.  Typically I leave it set to not automatically
save.  Then when I want to change my starting session I set things
up the way I like, turn the setting on and logout.  Next login,
(i.e. immediately) I turn it off again.

I've saved a session with the keys functioning but it had no effect
on them next login, they were off.

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Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/27/2016 12:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/27/2016 12:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

I use Xfce so this may not apply, but have you saved your session?

I'm not sure about Mate, but IIRC, by default session info isn't saved
under Xfce unless you go into "Applications->Settings->Session and
Startup" and tick the "Save Session on Logout" box in the "General" tab
and either log out or go to the "Session" tab and click the "Save
Session" button (which I generally do any time I change stuff here).


I also use Xfce.  When you log out or restart, you're asked if you want
to save your session and, IIRC, it starts out checked.


That's if the "Prompt on logout" checkbox is ticked. To be honest, it's
been a LONG time since I did a fresh install of Xfce (my machines have
been updated out the wazoo), and I always have a backup of my home
directory so I can restore my stuff if things get ugly. As a result, I
don't recall how it looks by default.


 Mostly I leave
it unchecked so that each session starts the way I expect it to, but if
I've made a change that I want to be sure gets kept, I'll check it, log
out and back in.


I want things to appear the way they were when last I logged in, so I
have both the "Prompt on logout" and "Automatically save session on 
logout" ticked. Belt and braces!



 Still, it's quite possible that Mate is discarding
changes at the end of the session and it's a Good Idea to check.


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Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Joe Zeff]

On 05/27/2016 12:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

I use Xfce so this may not apply, but have you saved your session?

I'm not sure about Mate, but IIRC, by default session info isn't saved
under Xfce unless you go into "Applications->Settings->Session and
Startup" and tick the "Save Session on Logout" box in the "General" tab
and either log out or go to the "Session" tab and click the "Save
Session" button (which I generally do any time I change stuff here).


I also use Xfce.  When you log out or restart, you're asked if you want 
to save your session and, IIRC, it starts out checked.  Mostly I leave 
it unchecked so that each session starts the way I expect it to, but if 
I've made a change that I want to be sure gets kept, I'll check it, log 
out and back in.  Still, it's quite possible that Mate is discarding 
changes at the end of the session and it's a Good Idea to check.

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Re: dnf install nodeps option

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/27/2016 08:07 AM, François Patte wrote:

I would like to install texmaker, but dnf wants to install a full
texlive I have already installed texlive from CTAN and I don't want
to have two texlive on may machine.

How can I get rid of dependencies?

You can use rpm --nodeps to install it, but then dnf will probably 
complain at you forever about it.


Another option is to use "rpmrebuild -ep yourpackage.rpm".  (dnf install 
rpmrebuild)  This will give you an editor (probably vi) to edit a 
recreated spec file.  If you remove the problematic Depends lines and 
save it, it will build you a new rpm file without the dependencies that 
dnf should let you install.  Don't remove all the Depends, just the 
texlive ones.

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Re: Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/27/2016 12:10 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

Running F23, mate desktop and compiz.

Each time I login the three volume keys on my
keyboard cause no action.  If I go into the
program "/usr/bin/mate-keyboard-properties"
either as a CLI or the System->Preferences menu
and immediately exit the keys work as expected.

Can anyone suggest a way to activate the volume
keys automatically on login?


I use Xfce so this may not apply, but have you saved your session?

I'm not sure about Mate, but IIRC, by default session info isn't saved
under Xfce unless you go into "Applications->Settings->Session and
Startup" and tick the "Save Session on Logout" box in the "General" tab
and either log out or go to the "Session" tab and click the "Save
Session" button (which I generally do any time I change stuff here).
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Re: Balsa -

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/27/2016 12:58 AM, Tim wrote:

On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 10:34 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:

Please follow the thread.  He was getting a command error when
connecting with pop3s.  I gave him a stunnel configuration so that he
could use wireshark to see what the command is.  stunnel will do the
ssl part, so he needs to connect to stunnel with pop3, not pop3s.


I have been, the whole thing.  But I don't recall noticing you mention,
anywhere, that you make an unencrypted connection to stunnel, and it
makes an encrypted connection to the server under test, as a kind of
proxy.

The same seems apparent in your most recent conversations with the
original poster, too.  Considering the steps you're, now, outlining.

You're right, I didn't explain what stunnel did.  I suppose I expect 
people to investigate before running commands given by strangers. :-)


http://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/GXOAKARN5CASOEK7PXJCZUTI3ROU4KDH/

In the first message I said to connect to localhost:110.  I assumed that 
it would be clear that it wasn't encrypted.


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/NOY4GFZ7MS7QDNU6ZG7WZ3CQXVIT3JEA/

In this message, I tried to be clear that it was pop3, not pop3s.  But I 
suppose that might have been a little too subtle.


In future, I will keep in mind that this is the users list, not devel, 
and try to include more details.

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Keyboard Volume Control Keys

[Jon LaBadie]

Running F23, mate desktop and compiz.

Each time I login the three volume keys on my
keyboard cause no action.  If I go into the
program "/usr/bin/mate-keyboard-properties"
either as a CLI or the System->Preferences menu
and immediately exit the keys work as expected.

Can anyone suggest a way to activate the volume
keys automatically on login?

Thanks,
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dnf install nodeps option

[François Patte]

Bonjour,


I would like to install texmaker, but dnf wants to install a full
texlive I have already installed texlive from CTAN and I don't want
to have two texlive on may machine.

How can I get rid of dependencies?

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 27/05/2016 15:39, gil ha scritto:




Il 26/05/2016 21:35, stan ha scritto:

On Thu, 26 May 2016 19:50:10 +0200
gil  wrote:
  

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16
bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

nothing


This is crazy.  By everything you've shown you should have sound.

Do you have a set of headphones?  Unplug your speakers from the AMD
card and plug in the headphones, the green mini plug.

Then fire up pavucontrol and turn off pulseaudio for the AMD card.  It
is the last tab, configuration; probably set to analog duplex now, but
if you open the dropdown, there is an entry for off.  Once that is
selected, pulse doesn't do anything with the card; it is pure alsa.

Then run the above command again, listening through headphones.  Be
careful, if you have everything set to high levels, you could blow your
ears out.

hi
found with
$ dmesg -wH
*[  +0,104707] snd_hda_intel: probe of :04:00.1 failed with error -2*

the rest of the above cmd is @ https://gil.fedorapeople.org/dmesg-log.txt
regards
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 21:35, stan ha scritto:

On Thu, 26 May 2016 19:50:10 +0200
gil  wrote:
  

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16
bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

nothing


This is crazy.  By everything you've shown you should have sound.

Do you have a set of headphones?  Unplug your speakers from the AMD
card and plug in the headphones, the green mini plug.

Then fire up pavucontrol and turn off pulseaudio for the AMD card.  It
is the last tab, configuration; probably set to analog duplex now, but
if you open the dropdown, there is an entry for off.  Once that is
selected, pulse doesn't do anything with the card; it is pure alsa.

Then run the above command again, listening through headphones.  Be
careful, if you have everything set to high levels, you could blow your
ears out.

hi
found with
$ dmesg -wH
*[  +0,104707] snd_hda_intel: probe of :04:00.1 failed with error -2*

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Re: error connecting bluetooth mouse in Fedora 23

[Gianluca Cecchi]

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Gianluca Cecchi 
wrote:

> hello,
> I have a Samsung S Action Mouse ET-MP900D that I'm trying to connect from
> my laptop: Asus U36SD with Fedora 23.
>
> I can pair and connect to the mouse both from a Samsung S2 phone and from
> a Samsung Pro 12.2 tablet.
>
> I remember in the past on the same PC with Fedora 21 I was able to connect
> to this mouse.
>
> But now on fedora 23 I get:
>

For the record:
It seeems I was able to solve my problem removing the bluetooth device,
from Mate Desktop Session blueman-applet app, and then doing setup again.

Gianluca
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Re: Balsa -

[Tim]

On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 10:34 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> Please follow the thread.  He was getting a command error when 
> connecting with pop3s.  I gave him a stunnel configuration so that he 
> could use wireshark to see what the command is.  stunnel will do the
> ssl part, so he needs to connect to stunnel with pop3, not pop3s.

I have been, the whole thing.  But I don't recall noticing you mention,
anywhere, that you make an unencrypted connection to stunnel, and it
makes an encrypted connection to the server under test, as a kind of
proxy.

The same seems apparent in your most recent conversations with the
original poster, too.  Considering the steps you're, now, outlining.


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Re: Balsa -

[Tim]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> Note that connecting to Gmail may require you to set up the account
>> with Gnome-Online-Accounts (GOA) because of recent changes in Google's
>> authentication policies, i.e. just inserting your password in Balsa may
>> not be enough


Bob Goodwin:
> Hmm, perhaps there is some problem there? I just assumed that the 
> settings that work for Thunderbird would work for Gmail. I have been 
> using Gmail at times recently due to problems with Wildblue. However it 
> appears Wildblue has straightened out the problems and it is back to 
> normal..

When I dallied with gmail, they were doing per-application passwords.
Quite how they identified that a different program was accessing their
servers, I do not know (there are various ways of fingerprinting
software, from their handshaking routines).  Though I can certainly see
how they'd easily tell apart a web browser from a mail client.

You had to go into Google accounts and set up an extra login for each
application (same account, different pass).

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a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments.
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