Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
Marcel, please just go away and find your own barn to bray like a donkey in. This list member is tired of your 'advice' as to the politics of fedora. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Nothing ever becomes real till it is experienced -- even a proverb is no proverb to you till your life has illustrated it. -- John Keats -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
Marcel, did you really write all this shit because you can't make autocorrect work in OpenOffice? On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.ukwrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:14:07 -0400 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for 5-7 years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure. If you want to run Windows then do so. Hey, that's exactly the answer I said wouldn't help Red Hat. Great! I'm surprised it comes from a former kernel maintainer. Maybe that's the spirit at Red Hat? I don't work for or speak for Red Hat. Not anymore, but you certainly were close to Red Hat: Alan was employed by the Linux distributor Red Hat during 1999-2009. He is as of 2010 employed by Intel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox That's not another Aln Cox, is it? Fedora is a *project* not a product. What's this supposed to mean? That you can escape all problems by sending users to Bugzillas? It's like the difference between watching Germany lose at football, and playing football. In the former case you pay money for and it may or may not do what you want, in the latter case you are part of making something happen. Do you really believe that the OEMs who use Android will tell their users: Buzz off, you don't contribute code and refer them to some android_this or that .org that nobody knows who the maintainer really is, that provide false information for months, if not years? Fedora does this. It lets anybody use their name, Google won't, unless an OEM puts its name on the product it has modified. This won't happen because whichever OEM treats users like shit will lose market share. Open Source is a new game. It's not a developers' gizmo anymore, it's now out in the open world and brings in lots of revenue. Users problems will have to be taken into consideration. management at Google's? They're people who have one thing in sight: the user. And they succeed. People who have geek projects in mind fail. Of Oh yes - like the iphone where they don't allow users to install software they want ? You really believe I'm an Apple apostle? :) I find Apple's business model is just horrible. It's a plain rip-off. But they cater to know-nothing people who are really willing to pay a fortune not to be sent searching all over the web. It works. Why can't Red Hat develop a business model that is not a rip-off for desktop users? When a site such as fedorafaq.org provides wrong information to install nvidia drivers, why doesn't Red Hat complain that somebody using its... subsidiary (see my previous post) name is diffusing wrong info? Why should they do this? Maybe they will sell contracts at $320/year/desktop. Working against Fedora helps Red Hat sell contracts which are really way too expensive. I would think they don't sell many, though. Goldman $... oops Sachs did a really bad job as a main underwriter for Red Hat's introduction on the Stock Exchange. Do you remember how shares went from $14 to ~$300?(1) This certainly made Bob Young and his wife -- you remember Bob Young, don't you? -- fabulously rich, but it set a money culture in Red Hat that, in my opinion, won't, in the long run, help Red Hat stick to the straight and narrow. (1) Someday, when you feel like reading something else than code, learn more about Goldman Sachs, see: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/12697/64796?FORM=ZZNR3 A search on laddering is advised. Rolling Stone will certainly tell you more than the Wall Street Journal, which would see all its revenue dwindle if they ever published such an article. Mr Taibbi does a really good job! == Now, you can say if Bob Young got hundred of millions for next to nothing, the present EO's are certainly worth a few millions a year but, meanwhile, Shuttleworth not only doesn't make a cent, he puts some of his own to accelerate Canonical development. And whereas all Red Hat offers is $320/year support contracts, Ubuntu offers its users some music and films. This makes more sense. How come Red Hat's multi-millionaires *EOs can't figure this out? They're mighty slow! course, Red Hat is moving forward but is it at the right pace? Google, who went public five years after Red Hat now has 25x the market capitalization. If your good friend :) Linux Torvalds had to entrust Linux's future to a company, which one would it be? Actually his name is Linus Nowadays, it's pretty much Linux Torvalds :) I strongly believe more attention should be given to users' problems and wills. So stop just believing and start doing. Ranting on
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are reluctant to try it out. What is the solution to a non-existing tab? One person said 3.2.1 would settle the problem. I explained why I wouldn't install it now. Maybe you should comment the answers you had suggesting that removing the Replace Tab... since 2006 because of some software patent is completely ludicrous. It is not clear why you ask for help if you are not willing to try the suggestions offered. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.comwrote: You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are reluctant to try it out. What is the solution to a non-existing tab? One person said 3.2.1 would settle the problem. I explained why I wouldn't install it now. Maybe you should comment the answers you had suggesting that removing the Replace Tab... since 2006 because of some software patent is completely ludicrous. Here's the patent number, Marcel: 5761689 Autocorrecting text typed into a word processing document Assigned to: Microsoft Corporation http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5761689/description.html So, how completely ludicrous was that again? -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 7/16/2010 5:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Marcel, please just go away and find your own barn to bray like a donkey in. This list member is tired of your 'advice' as to the politics of fedora. Hi Gene. His posts hit /null/void for me. Have for a long, long time. But not unique. There are several actually. ;-) -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 07/17/2010 05:02 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com mailto:methe...@gmail.com wrote: You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are reluctant to try it out. What is the solution to a non-existing tab? You constantly change the conversation. You were talking about the Nvidia driver where solutions have been offered to you. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 7/16/2010 11:10 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/17/2010 05:02 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com mailto:methe...@gmail.com wrote: You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are reluctant to try it out. What is the solution to a non-existing tab? You constantly change the conversation. You were talking about the Nvidia driver where solutions have been offered to you. I can stand this no longer troll One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com wrote: On 07/14/2010 03:54 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Smith, Herbherb.sm...@boeing.com wrote: *From:* users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcel Rieux *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM *To:* Community support for Fedora users *Subject:* OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as teh to be automatically corrected to the. I searched the web but all the solutions I found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody know how to do this? If you mean in Firefox No. as the tile and the line above say, I mean in OOo 3.3.1 Still no answer to this question. Isn't it amazing that that no Fedora user, including me, knows how to make autocorrections in OOo 3.1.1? No doubt I should register to OOo forums to be fed some more nonsence. One wonders how MS Office is doing so good... Sabotage somewhere? Will anybody now pretend that Oracle is not sabotaging Open Solaris? So why not sabotage OOo in one fell swoop? Fortunately Red Hat doesn't offer any service to companies using OOo :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: No. as the tile and the line above say, I mean in OOo 3.3.1 Still no answer to this question. Isn't it amazing that that no Fedora user, including me, knows how to make autocorrections in OOo 3.1.1? No doubt I should register to OOo forums to be fed some more nonsence. It's no mystery why no one knows how to make autocorrections, the functionality doesn't exist. It's documented in the help files how to something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist on the AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no Replace tab available). Automatically Check Spelling You can have OpenOffice.org automatically check spelling while you type and underline possible misspelt words with a red wavy line. To Check Spelling Automatically While You Type 1. Activate the *AutoSpellcheck *icon on the Standard bar. 2. Right-click a word with a red wavy underline, and then choose a suggested replacement word from the list, or from the *AutoCorrect *submenu. If you choose a word from the *AutoCorrect* submenu, the underlined word and the replacement word are automatically added to the AutoCorrect list for the current language. To view the AutoCorrect list, choose *Tools – AutoCorrect Options*, and then click the *Replace* tab. You can also add the underlined word to your custom dictionary by choosing * Add*. To Exclude Words From the Spellcheck 1. Select the words that you want to exclude. 2. Click the Language control on the Status bar to open a menu. 3. Choose “None (Do not check spelling)”. -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 15:17 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: It's no mystery why no one knows how to make autocorrections, the functionality doesn't exist. It's documented in the help files how to something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist on the AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no Replace tab available). I run Ooenoffice 3.2.1 (downloaded directly from openoffice.org) on this Centos 5 machine and I have a Replace tab on the Tools-Autocorrect window. A complete list of the available tabs: Replace, Exceptions, Options, Custom Quotes, Word Completion. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: No. as the tile and the line above say, I mean in OOo 3.3.1 Still no answer to this question. Isn't it amazing that that no Fedora user, including me, knows how to make autocorrections in OOo 3.1.1? No doubt I should register to OOo forums to be fed some more nonsence. It's no mystery why no one knows how to make autocorrections, the functionality doesn't exist. It's documented in the help files how to something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist on the AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no Replace tab available). I have automatically Check Spelling enabled. That's not what I want. I want AutoCorrection, a very basic functionality in word processors nowadays. From the documentation on the net, it even seems the feature was once offered. Who removed the tab? Should I write to Oracle about this? Maybe they're unaware of the tab disappearance because they use MS Office? How does Red Hat manages to ask thousand of dollars from companies when Linux's main word processing software doesn't offer such basic functionalities? Excuse me for trolling with facts -- because anything that's not hip, hip, hurrah is trolling -- but I wonder if I'm not daydreaming wasting my time on the net for something that should exist I'm told everywhere... but doesn't. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 15:17 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: It's no mystery why no one knows how to make autocorrections, the functionality doesn't exist. It's documented in the help files how to something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist on the AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no Replace tab available). I run Ooenoffice 3.2.1 (downloaded directly from openoffice.org) on this Centos 5 machine and I have a Replace tab on the Tools-Autocorrect window. You have OOo 3.2.1 available on CentOS 5 when only 3.1.1 is available on Fedora 12? Rather surprising! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 16:47 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: You have OOo 3.2.1 available on CentOS 5 when only 3.1.1 is available on Fedora 12? Rather surprising! OO 3.2.1 is readily available for download directly from the openoffice.org website. It comes as a set of rpm files that can be easily installed on Centos, RedHat and Fedora. I not aware of any reason why you couldn't install OO 3.2.1 from the openoffice.org website on Fedora 12, though I've never actually tried it. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: How does Red Hat manages to ask thousand of dollars from companies when Linux's main word processing software doesn't offer such basic functionalities? Excuse me for trolling with facts -- because anything that's not hip, hip, hurrah is trolling -- but I wonder if I'm not daydreaming wasting my time on the net for something that should exist I'm told everywhere... but doesn't. First off, Red Hat isn't asking thousands of dollars from companies that are using Linux as a word processor. The entitlement for Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop is like $320/year or so. If you're paying the thousands of dollars per year on your RHEL entitlement, then you're not running OpenOffice.org Writer on it. Secondly, Red Hat doesn't charge anything at all (nor could they) for Fedora, which is what you're using -- the free consumer product. Not only are you using a free product, you're using an old version of it. Facts are never trolling, but attitude is. When you march in here and sort of turn up your nose, snort, and act all disgusted that your free product doesn't offer the feature you want and make noise like everyone who thinks it's great anyway is an idiot, then that's trolling. If you think this is going to garner sympathy for your cause you are, as you imply, daydreaming. -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 16:47 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: You have OOo 3.2.1 available on CentOS 5 when only 3.1.1 is available on Fedora 12? Rather surprising! OO 3.2.1 is readily available for download directly from the openoffice.org website. It comes as a set of rpm files that can be easily installed on Centos, RedHat and Fedora. I not aware of any reason why you couldn't install OO 3.2.1 from the openoffice.org website on Fedora 12, though I've never actually tried it. I only install Fedora's available downloads. I figure there might be problems using the latest versions if there not made available. I hope 3.2.1 comes soon, so I can see some basic features enabled. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 17:49 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: I only install Fedora's available downloads. I figure there might be problems using the latest versions if there not made available. I hope 3.2.1 comes soon, so I can see some basic features enabled. You presented an issue that you see as a problem. I provided an easily-implemented solution (with rpm's and everything). Now you don't want the solution. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: How does Red Hat manages to ask thousand of dollars from companies when Linux's main word processing software doesn't offer such basic functionalities? Excuse me for trolling with facts -- because anything that's not hip, hip, hurrah is trolling -- but I wonder if I'm not daydreaming wasting my time on the net for something that should exist I'm told everywhere... but doesn't. First off, Red Hat isn't asking thousands of dollars from companies that are using Linux as a word processor. The entitlement for Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop is like $320/year or so. $320 for one or a thousand desktops? For one, it's rather expensive, mainly when the software doesn't work and nobody gives a damn. For a thousand, if the software worked, at 32¢ per year it would be really cheap. I would think that it's rather $320 than 32¢ a year for software that, in both cases, doesn't work well. Problem! Secondly, Red Hat doesn't charge anything at all (nor could they) for Fedora, which is what you're using -- the free consumer product. Not only are you using a free product, you're using an old version of it. Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for 5-7 years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure. Facts are never trolling, but attitude is. When you march in here and sort of turn up your nose, snort, and act all disgusted that your free product doesn't offer the feature you want It's not the feature I want. It's the standard feature everybody needs and has been available for years. Whare the hell has the Replace tab gone? Who the hell has removed it? Does anybody know who's making Linux go awry? and make noise like everyone who thinks it's great anyway is an idiot As Chrome OS, Android and Meego are about to flood the market, I do believe everyone who thinks flawed software is great anyways is an idiot. You got thisi right. But that's just me and, of course, I'm a troll. I mean, is there any logic in what I'm saying? Of course, everybody knows if you don't pay, you shouldn't complain about flawed software whose bugs any idiot could identify at first sight. You shouldn't complain about no instructions being provided for uninstalling Nvidia drivers, and so on. You shouldn't complain. As Ballmer explains, when it's free, it's necessarily flawed. You should fill reports on bugs that developers couldn't possibly help escaping. Once you understand that Google and Intel/Nokia are Linux's future... hum, why not Oracle too? you should just shut your yap, be patient and never complain. Thanks for your opinion, but I do believe I've heard it once or twice from topmost so-called Linux advocates on this group. Nothing new. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: But that's just me and, of course, I'm a troll. I mean, is there any logic in what I'm saying? Of course, everybody knows if you don't pay, you shouldn't complain about flawed software whose bugs any idiot could identify at first sight. You shouldn't complain about no instructions being provided for uninstalling Nvidia drivers, and so on. You shouldn't complain. The problem isn't that you complain, it's that you bitch. If you'd like to stop being a troll, it's easy. Go file your complaints as bugs in Bugzilla and stop bitching on fedora-users. -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for 5-7 years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure. If you want to run Windows then do so. We will be very happy for you to do so. Most sales people I know had a category for people like you - the I hope he buys the competitors product category. Red Hat has big contracts with some very big very bright and successful companies. Now it could be they are all collectively stupid and you are only the clueful person on the planet, but I umm doubt it somehow. Also you have another thing confused: Fedora is a *project* not a product. Its a bunch of people who together put in and get various things out of a common project for whatever reason makes sense to them. That in many ways is quite different to something like Android which you buy as part of a phone. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
Around 11:48pm on Thursday, July 15, 2010 (UK time), Marcel Rieux scrawled: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 17:49 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: I only install Fedora's available downloads. I figure there might be problems using the latest versions if there not made available. I hope 3.2.1 comes soon, so I can see some basic features enabled. You presented an issue that you see as a problem. I provided an easily-implemented solution (with rpm's and everything). Now you don't want the solution. YOU say it's a solution. I don't know you, I don't deal with you. If Fedora believes it's a solution, I'll apply it. Well if you won't trust the advice you are given here, why do you ask for it. And you are not telling the truth when you say you only trust Fedora software, since you also use the Fusion repo. Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 23:52:44 up 12 days, 12:03, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.05, 0.01 pgpfxNqSRc0cf.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 18:48 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: YOU say it's a solution. I don't know you, I don't deal with you. If Fedora believes it's a solution, I'll apply it. You don't know anyone on this mailing list. You're in the wrong place, and I'm not trying to provoke or anger you with this observation; it's a sincere attempt to help you (though you aren't making it particularly easy). You are used to dealing with companies and some kind of paid technical support and official solutions offered through (usually) out-sourced help lines and the like. To obtain the comfort level and type of service that you expect/demand/require, you need to be using something like Microsoft Windows, Apple's version of Unix running on a Macintosh, or perhaps some version of Red Hat's Enterprise Linux. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 23:54 +0100, Steve Searle wrote: And you are not telling the truth when you say you only trust Fedora software, since you also use the Fusion repo. Furthermore, the download I pointed him to is on the official openoffice.org webpage. Perhaps he doesn't understand who writes the software that he's concerned about. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 07/16/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Meanwhile, if Red Hat wants to continue shipping its product with such an obvious bug, so be it. That's unless Red Hat is well aware of the bug and ships it with Fedora to entice users to use their commercial version. (Why is it that I believe this won't work?) Again, refer to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=190191 Fedora is not a Red Hat product and Red Hat Enterprise Linux does not include this feature either. So that reasoning is illogical. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/16/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Meanwhile, if Red Hat wants to continue shipping its product with such an obvious bug, so be it. That's unless Red Hat is well aware of the bug and ships it with Fedora to entice users to use their commercial version. (Why is it that I believe this won't work?) Again, refer to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=190191 Fedora is not a Red Hat product and Red Hat Enterprise Linux does not include this feature either. So that reasoning is illogical. Rahul, The bug says, Red Hat reviews and scrubs its code for intellectual property issues. Our approach has always been conservative, i.e., if there is any question, resolve the issue or remove the code. Red Hat recently implemented a number of changes in its distribution of OpenOffice to address such issues. These changes should not be construed as implying any immediate intellectual property problem; rather, they have been implemented to assure that no such immediate problems arise. While implementing these changes in our own distribution of OpenOffice, we have also made them available upstream to the OpenOffice project. Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the possible immediate intellectual property problem may be? The bug report doesn't specify anything. Thank you. -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the possible immediate intellectual property problem may be? The bug report doesn't specify anything. I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 07/15/2010 05:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the possible immediate intellectual property problem may be? The bug report doesn't specify anything. I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents Rahul Are asking OPEN SOURCE people to help you create a CLOSED AND PROPRIETARY something?? What a farce! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 07/16/2010 05:46 AM, JD wrote: On 07/15/2010 05:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the possible immediate intellectual property problem may be? The bug report doesn't specify anything. I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents Rahul Are asking OPEN SOURCE people to help you create a CLOSED AND PROPRIETARY something?? What a farce! I am not sure how to parse that statement. Can you rephrase with less shouting? Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for 5-7 years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure. If you want to run Windows then do so. Hey, that's exactly the answer I said wouldn't help Red Hat. Great! I'm surprised it comes from a former kernel maintainer. Maybe that's the spirit at Red Hat? We will be very happy for you to do so. Most sales people I know had a category for people like you - the I hope he buys the competitors product category. It's true! But I know a software company who eliminated all competition because they took good note of my comments... amongst many others. Why does Apple make billions with a *NIX system while Linux cannot get much desktop market share? Are you really sure there's not a problem of attitude and, possibly, with the development model. Now that Red Hat knows -- because you're pretty close to Red Hat, I believe :) -- how long will it take before this bug gets fixed? Or is there some Bugzilla you'd like to refer me too to explain the obvious so that Red Hat responsibility is not involved? Red Hat has big contracts with some very big very bright and successful companies. And they ship OOo with such obvious bugs or do they make a special for Fedora users? Now it could be they are all collectively stupid and you are only the clueful person on the planet, but I umm doubt it somehow. I don't care if people are stupid or not. I care about obvious bugs not being fixed and I wonder how come this can possibly happen, mainly when the competition -- read Google, Intel/Nokia -- is caring about users and striving to provide quality software. Did it ever occured to you that, after filling their search engine with Android users, Google could offer server services as efficiently as Red Hat, and with a huge user base? Tell me, dear developer, how do you see Red Hat's future otherwise than as a remake of Sun's story? Developers are so clever one wonders how come Steve Jobs, who never wrote a line of code in his life, runs Apple. Also you have another thing confused: Fedora is a *project* not a product. What's this supposed to mean? That you can escape all problems by sending users to Bugzillas? Its a bunch of people who together put in and get various things out of a common project for whatever reason makes sense to them. What makes sense to them? Failing? OK, Red Hat is doing fine now, but the scenery is changing fast. If you see the future as a continuation of yesterday, you're doomed. Did you ever wonder who's Steve Jobs or the management at Google's? They're people who have one thing in sight: the user. And they succeed. People who have geek projects in mind fail. Of course, Red Hat is moving forward but is it at the right pace? Google, who went public five years after Red Hat now has 25x the market capitalization. If your good friend :) Linux Torvalds had to entrust Linux's future to a company, which one would it be? I strongly believe more attention should be given to users' problems and wills. Ask Shuttleworth. No Goldman and Sachs will make you a millionaire in his story. Not only is he putting every cent back into Canonical. but instead of getting a pay, he adds some of his own, only to accelerate growth. It's funny, I don't feel the same drive in Red Hat multi-millionaires *EOs. On a lesser scale Red Hat is facing the same growth problem as Microsoft. Your buzz off answer won't solve this kind of problem. It never has and never will. If your spirit is the kind that rules at Red Hat, no doubt Red Hat is doomed. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 18:48 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: YOU say it's a solution. I don't know you, I don't deal with you. If Fedora believes it's a solution, I'll apply it. You don't know anyone on this mailing list. You're in the wrong place, and I'm not trying to provoke or anger you with this observation; it's a sincere attempt to help you (though you aren't making it particularly easy). It might very well be but I've been very frustrated by the time I lost installing Kmod. The solution I found at RPMFusion worked very well and it's not a company. It's people dealing with said module installation. Your solution might or might not work but, even if it did, it's going to be just another one amongst the gazillions on the net. How would somebody with the same desinstallation problem find the reference here? What's the limit to Google is your friend? Is this new loss of time supposed to teach something too? Why not put instructions in the right place? You really think MY problem is I'm used to dealing with companies? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: It might very well be but I've been very frustrated by the time I lost installing Kmod. The solution I found at RPMFusion worked very well and it's not a company. It's people dealing with said module installation. Your solution might or might not work but, even if it did, it's going to be just another one amongst the gazillions on the net. How would somebody with the same desinstallation problem find the reference here? What's the limit to Google is your friend? Is this new loss of time supposed to teach something too? Why not put instructions in the right place? You really think MY problem is I'm used to dealing with companies? --- You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are reluctant to try it out.It is not clear why you ask for help if you are not willing to try the suggestions offered. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the possible immediate intellectual property problem may be? The bug report doesn't specify anything. I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents Err... yes. When you talk intellectual property in software, you talk patents. So what's the patent that could possibly pretend that you can't replace this with that. You need to find this in a list, that provide the correction that. Are there many more basic exercises in programming? Have you heard that OOo 3.2.1 solves this problem? I hope the tab will be removed before the final release! Man, patents on an equivalence list! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 07/16/2010 09:18 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com mailto:methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the possible immediate intellectual property problem may be? The bug report doesn't specify anything. I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents Err... yes. When you talk intellectual property in software, you talk patents. So what's the patent that could possibly pretend that you can't replace this with that. You need to find this in a list, that provide the correction that. Are there many more basic exercises in programming? Have you heard that OOo 3.2.1 solves this problem? I hope the tab will be removed before the final release! Man, patents on an equivalence list! It is just unfortunate legal reality that patents on software can cover quite basic ideas. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Marcel Rieux Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as teh to be automatically corrected to the. I searched the web but all the solutions I found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody know how to do this? I often use the zoom in Firefox, Is there any way to make Firefox remember a default zoom? Is there a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the right of the screen when zoomed in? Always using the bottom scrollbar is a pain. TIA Tools - AutoCorrect Options - Replace tab You can set up automatic replacements for various errors in typing there Herb -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Smith, Herb herb.sm...@boeing.com wrote: *From:* users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcel Rieux *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM *To:* Community support for Fedora users *Subject:* OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as teh to be automatically corrected to the. I searched the web but all the solutions I found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody know how to do this? I often use the zoom in Firefox, Is there any way to make Firefox remember a default zoom? Is there a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the right of the screen when zoomed in? Always using the bottom scrollbar is a pain. TIA Tools - AutoCorrect Options - Replace tab You can set up automatic replacements for various errors in typing there... This has been my problem all along: I don't find the tabs, here, the replace tab. I use the french interface and, under Autocorrection, I have (translated when needed): 1st tab: Exceptions 2nd tab: Options 3rd tab: Typographic quotes 4th tab: Automatic insertion I see nothing anywhere under these tabs to make autocorrections. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in
On 07/14/2010 03:54 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Smith, Herbherb.sm...@boeing.com wrote: *From:* users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcel Rieux *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM *To:* Community support for Fedora users *Subject:* OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as teh to be automatically corrected to the. I searched the web but all the solutions I found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody know how to do this? If you mean in Firefox, Edit-Preferences-Composition-Spelling tab. You probably want both the Check spelling before sending and Enable spell check as you type boxes checked. I often use the zoom in Firefox, Is there any way to make Firefox remember a default zoom? I don't think so as each page is rendered according to what the site says. From there you can zoom in and out. Is there a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the right of the screen when zoomed in? Always using the bottom scrollbar is a pain. I think the arrow keys do that. Perhaps a combo of ctrl, alt or meta with the mouse wheel. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - UNIX is actually quite user friendly. The problem is that it's - - just very picky of who its friends are! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
