Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/17/2010 05:02 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>
> Maybe you should comment the answers you had suggesting that removing
> the Replace Tab... since 2006 because of some software patent is
> completely ludicrous.

I already did.  You just seem have to ignored it.  It is just the
unfortunate legal reality of software patents.  If patents exists, we
have to abide by the law regardless of how "ludicrous" we think they are.  

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[David]

On 7/16/2010 11:10 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 07/17/2010 05:02 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram > > wrote:
>>  
>>
>> You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you
>> are reluctant to try it out.
>>
>>
>> What is the solution to a non-existing tab?
> 
> You constantly change the conversation.  You were talking about the
> Nvidia driver where solutions have been offered to you. 



I can stand this no longer

troll

One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being
self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a
forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or
her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem
attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no
substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments,
which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/17/2010 05:02 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram  > wrote:
>  
>
> You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you
> are reluctant to try it out.
>
>
> What is the solution to a non-existing tab?

You constantly change the conversation.  You were talking about the
Nvidia driver where solutions have been offered to you. 

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[dgboles]

On 7/16/2010 5:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Marcel, please just go away and find your own barn to bray like a donkey in.
> This list member is tired of your 'advice' as to the politics of fedora.


Hi Gene. His posts hit /null/void for me. Have for a long, long time.
But not unique. There are several actually.

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>
>> You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are
>> reluctant to try it out.
>>
>
> What is the solution to a non-existing tab? One person said 3.2.1 would
> settle the problem. I explained why I wouldn't install it now.
>
> Maybe you should comment the answers you had suggesting that removing the
> Replace Tab... since 2006 because of some software patent is completely
> ludicrous.
>

Here's the patent number, Marcel:  5761689

"Autocorrecting text typed into a word processing document"

Assigned to: Microsoft Corporation

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5761689/description.html

So, how "completely ludicrous" was that again?

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:


> You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are
> reluctant to try it out.
>

What is the solution to a non-existing tab? One person said 3.2.1 would
settle the problem. I explained why I wouldn't install it now.

Maybe you should comment the answers you had suggesting that removing the
Replace Tab... since 2006 because of some software patent is completely
ludicrous.



>It is not clear why you ask for help if you are not willing to try the
> suggestions offered.
>
> Rahul
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Christofer C. Bell]

Marcel, did you really write all this shit because you can't make
autocorrect work in OpenOffice?

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:14:07 -0400
>> Marcel Rieux  wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Alan Cox 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM)
>> for
>> > > 5-7
>> > > > years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be
>> really
>> > > > competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure.
>> > >
>> > > If you want to run Windows then do so.
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey, that's exactly the answer I said wouldn't help Red Hat. Great! I'm
>> > surprised it comes from a former kernel maintainer. Maybe that's the
>> spirit
>> > at Red Hat?
>>
>> I don't work for or speak for Red Hat.
>>
>
> Not anymore, but you certainly were close to Red Hat:
>
> "Alan was employed by the Linux distributor Red Hat during 1999-2009. He is
> as of 2010 employed by Intel."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox
>
> That's not another Aln Cox, is it?
>
>  > > Fedora is a *project* not a product.
>> > What's this supposed to mean? That you can escape all problems by
>> sending
>> > users to Bugzillas?
>>
>> It's like the difference between watching Germany lose at football, and
>> playing football. In the former case you pay money for and it may or may
>> not do what you want, in the latter case you are part of making something
>> happen.
>>
>
> Do you really believe that the OEMs who use Android will tell their users:
> "Buzz off, you don't contribute code" and refer them to some android_this or
> that .org that nobody knows who the maintainer really is, that provide false
> information for months, if not years? Fedora does this. It lets anybody use
> their name, Google won't, unless an OEM puts its name on the product it has
> modified.
>
> This won't happen because whichever OEM treats users like shit will lose
> market share. Open Source is a new game. It's not a developers' gizmo
> anymore, it's now out in the open world and brings in lots of revenue. Users
> problems will have to be taken into consideration.
>
>>
>> > management at Google's? They're people who have one thing in sight: the
>> > user. And they succeed. People who have geek "projects" in mind fail. Of
>>
>> Oh yes - like the iphone where they don't allow users to install software
>> they want ?
>>
>
> You really believe I'm an Apple apostle? :) I find Apple's business model
> is just horrible. It's a plain rip-off. But they cater to know-nothing
> people who are really willing to pay a fortune not to be sent searching all
> over the web. It works. Why can't Red Hat develop a business model that is
> not a rip-off for desktop users?
>
> When a site such as fedorafaq.org provides wrong information to install
> nvidia drivers, why doesn't Red Hat complain that somebody using its...
> subsidiary (see my previous post) name is diffusing wrong info?
>
> Why should they do this? Maybe they will sell contracts at
> $320/year/desktop. Working against Fedora helps Red Hat sell contracts which
> are really way too expensive. I would think they don't sell many, though.
>
> Goldman $... oops & Sachs did a really bad job as a main underwriter for
> Red Hat's introduction on the Stock Exchange. Do you remember how shares
> went from $14 to ~$300?(1) This certainly made Bob Young and his wife -- you
> remember Bob Young, don't you? -- fabulously rich, but it set a money
> culture in Red Hat that, in my opinion, won't, in the long run, help Red Hat
> stick to the straight and narrow.
>
> 
> (1) Someday, when you feel like reading  something else than code, learn
> more about Goldman & Sachs, see:
>
> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/12697/64796?FORM=ZZNR3
>
> A search on "laddering" is advised. Rolling Stone will certainly tell you
> more than the Wall Street Journal, which would see all its revenue dwindle
> if they ever published such an article. Mr Taibbi does a really good job!
> ==
>
> Now, you can say if Bob Young got hundred of millions for next to nothing,
> the present EO's are certainly worth a few millions a year but, meanwhile,
> Shuttleworth not only doesn't make a cent, he puts some of his own to
> accelerate Canonical development. And whereas all Red Hat offers is
> $320/year support contracts, Ubuntu offers its users some music and films.
> This makes more sense. How come Red Hat's multi-millionaires *EOs can't
> figure this out? They're mighty slow!
>
>
> > course, Red Hat is moving forward but is it at the right pace? Google,
> who
> > went public five years after Red Hat now has 25x the market
> capitalization.
> > If your good friend :) Linux Torvalds had to entrust Linux's future to a
> > company, which one  would it be?
>
> Actually his name is Linus
>>
>
> Nowadays, it's pretty much Linux Torvalds :)
>
>
>
>
>
> > I strongly believ

Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Gene Heskett]

Marcel, please just go away and find your own barn to bray like a donkey in.
This list member is tired of your 'advice' as to the politics of fedora.

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Alan Cox  wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:14:07 -0400
> Marcel Rieux  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Alan Cox 
> wrote:
> >
> > > > Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM)
> for
> > > 5-7
> > > > years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be
> really
> > > > competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure.
> > >
> > > If you want to run Windows then do so.
> >
> >
> > Hey, that's exactly the answer I said wouldn't help Red Hat. Great! I'm
> > surprised it comes from a former kernel maintainer. Maybe that's the
> spirit
> > at Red Hat?
>
> I don't work for or speak for Red Hat.
>

Not anymore, but you certainly were close to Red Hat:

"Alan was employed by the Linux distributor Red Hat during 1999-2009. He is
as of 2010 employed by Intel."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox

That's not another Aln Cox, is it?

> > Fedora is a *project* not a product.
> > What's this supposed to mean? That you can escape all problems by sending
> > users to Bugzillas?
>
> It's like the difference between watching Germany lose at football, and
> playing football. In the former case you pay money for and it may or may
> not do what you want, in the latter case you are part of making something
> happen.
>

Do you really believe that the OEMs who use Android will tell their users:
"Buzz off, you don't contribute code" and refer them to some android_this or
that .org that nobody knows who the maintainer really is, that provide false
information for months, if not years? Fedora does this. It lets anybody use
their name, Google won't, unless an OEM puts its name on the product it has
modified.

This won't happen because whichever OEM treats users like shit will lose
market share. Open Source is a new game. It's not a developers' gizmo
anymore, it's now out in the open world and brings in lots of revenue. Users
problems will have to be taken into consideration.

>
> > management at Google's? They're people who have one thing in sight: the
> > user. And they succeed. People who have geek "projects" in mind fail. Of
>
> Oh yes - like the iphone where they don't allow users to install software
> they want ?
>

You really believe I'm an Apple apostle? :) I find Apple's business model is
just horrible. It's a plain rip-off. But they cater to know-nothing people
who are really willing to pay a fortune not to be sent searching all over
the web. It works. Why can't Red Hat develop a business model that is not a
rip-off for desktop users?

When a site such as fedorafaq.org provides wrong information to install
nvidia drivers, why doesn't Red Hat complain that somebody using its...
subsidiary (see my previous post) name is diffusing wrong info?

Why should they do this? Maybe they will sell contracts at
$320/year/desktop. Working against Fedora helps Red Hat sell contracts which
are really way too expensive. I would think they don't sell many, though.

Goldman $... oops & Sachs did a really bad job as a main underwriter for Red
Hat's introduction on the Stock Exchange. Do you remember how shares went
from $14 to ~$300?(1) This certainly made Bob Young and his wife -- you
remember Bob Young, don't you? -- fabulously rich, but it set a money
culture in Red Hat that, in my opinion, won't, in the long run, help Red Hat
stick to the straight and narrow.


(1) Someday, when you feel like reading  something else than code, learn
more about Goldman & Sachs, see:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/12697/64796?FORM=ZZNR3

A search on "laddering" is advised. Rolling Stone will certainly tell you
more than the Wall Street Journal, which would see all its revenue dwindle
if they ever published such an article. Mr Taibbi does a really good job!
==

Now, you can say if Bob Young got hundred of millions for next to nothing,
the present EO's are certainly worth a few millions a year but, meanwhile,
Shuttleworth not only doesn't make a cent, he puts some of his own to
accelerate Canonical development. And whereas all Red Hat offers is
$320/year support contracts, Ubuntu offers its users some music and films.
This makes more sense. How come Red Hat's multi-millionaires *EOs can't
figure this out? They're mighty slow!

> course, Red Hat is moving forward but is it at the right pace? Google, who
> went public five years after Red Hat now has 25x the market
capitalization.
> If your good friend :) Linux Torvalds had to entrust Linux's future to a
> company, which one  would it be?

Actually his name is Linus
>

Nowadays, it's pretty much Linux Torvalds :)





> I strongly believe more attention should be given to users' problems and
> wills.

 So stop just believing and start doing. Ranting on email lists rarely
> changes the world. Fedora is a project - so like the football team, if
> you think you can do better, stop whining from the touch line and start
> playing - and if you don't like the club you can star

Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Ed Greshko]

 On 07/16/2010 09:26 PM, Craig White wrote:
>
> I can't figure out why any one actually bothers responding to him.
masochism?


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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 08:54 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Marcel Rieux 
> wrote:

> 
> You really think MY problem is I'm used to dealing with
> companies?
> 
> ---
> 
> You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are
> reluctant to try it out.It is not clear why you ask for help if
> you are not willing to try the suggestions offered. 

I can't figure out why any one actually bothers responding to him.

Craig



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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Friday, July 16, 2010 04:48:50 Marcel Rieux wrote:
> Err... yes. When you talk intellectual property in software, you talk
> patents. So what's the patent that could possibly pretend that you can't
> replace "this" with "that". You need to find "this" in a list, that provide
> the correction "that". Are there many more basic exercises in programming?

You wouldn't believe how basic it can get. The most prominent example is the 
Microsoft patent on double-clicking:

  http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Example_software_patents#Double-clicking

You might also want to check other patents on that page. My favorites are 
page-up-page-down patent, progress bar patent, popup window patent, and --- 
the mother of all patents --- the *wheel* ! :-)

Going by the name "circular transportation facilitation device", the wheel 
patent was approved by Australian patent office in May 2001. Here is a report:

  http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn965-wheel-patented-in-australia.html

Have fun! :-)
Marko


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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Alan Cox]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:14:07 -0400
Marcel Rieux  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Alan Cox  wrote:
> 
> > > Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for
> > 5-7
> > > years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really
> > > competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure.
> >
> > If you want to run Windows then do so.
> 
> 
> Hey, that's exactly the answer I said wouldn't help Red Hat. Great! I'm
> surprised it comes from a former kernel maintainer. Maybe that's the spirit
> at Red Hat?

I don't work for or speak for Red Hat.

> > Fedora is a *project* not a product.
> What's this supposed to mean? That you can escape all problems by sending
> users to Bugzillas?

It's like the difference between watching Germany lose at football, and
playing football. In the former case you pay money for and it may or may
not do what you want, in the latter case you are part of making something
happen.

> 
> Its a bunch of people who together
> > put in and get various things out of a common project for whatever reason
> > makes sense to them.
> >
> 
> What makes sense to them? 

I'd suggest you look at the EU FLOSS studies - everything from 'saving me
cash' through 'because I enjoy it' to 'making the world a better place'
with a lot of other things on the side.

> management at Google's? They're people who have one thing in sight: the
> user. And they succeed. People who have geek "projects" in mind fail. Of

Oh yes - like the iphone where they don't allow users to install software
they want ?

> course, Red Hat is moving forward but is it at the right pace? Google, who
> went public five years after Red Hat now has 25x the market capitalization.
> If your good friend :) Linux Torvalds had to entrust Linux's future to a
> company, which one  would it be?

Actually his name is Linus

> I strongly believe more attention should be given to users' problems and
> wills. 

So stop just believing and start doing. Ranting on email lists rarely
changes the world. Fedora is a project - so like the football team, if
you think you can do better, stop whining from the touch line and start
playing - and if you don't like the club you can start your own or join
another one.

> Your buzz off answer won't solve this kind of problem. It never has and
> never will. If your spirit is the kind that rules at Red Hat, no doubt Red
> Hat is doomed.

As I said I don't work for Red Hat. I don't work on any Red Hat product
either.

You seem to be very confused about what Fedora is. The Fedora mission
statement isn't 'blow Microsoft out of the water' nor is it 'world
domination' nor 'end user product'. If that is what you are looking for
you are - as you've been told many times - in the wrong place.

Alan
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/16/2010 09:18 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram  > wrote:
>
> On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> > Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates
> what the
> > possible immediate intellectual property problem may be?  The bug
> > report doesn't specify anything.
>
> I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents
>
>
> Err... yes. When you talk intellectual property in software, you talk
> patents. So what's the patent that could possibly pretend that you
> can't replace "this" with "that". You need to find "this" in a list,
> that provide the correction "that". Are there many more basic
> exercises in programming?
>
> Have you heard that OOo 3.2.1 solves this problem? I hope the tab will
> be removed before the final release! Man, patents on an equivalence list!

It is just unfortunate legal reality that patents on software can cover
quite basic ideas. 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:

> On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> > Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the
> > possible immediate intellectual property problem may be?  The bug
> > report doesn't specify anything.
>
> I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents
>

Err... yes. When you talk intellectual property in software, you talk
patents. So what's the patent that could possibly pretend that you can't
replace "this" with "that". You need to find "this" in a list, that provide
the correction "that". Are there many more basic exercises in programming?

Have you heard that OOo 3.2.1 solves this problem? I hope the tab will be
removed before the final release! Man, patents on an equivalence list!
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rahul Sundaram]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:

>
> It might very well be but I've been very frustrated by the time I lost
> installing Kmod. The solution I found at RPMFusion worked very well and it's
> not a company. It's people dealing with said module installation.
>
> Your solution might or might not work but, even if it did, it's going to be
> just another one amongst the gazillions on the net. How would somebody with
> the same desinstallation problem find the reference here? What's the limit
> to "Google is your friend"? Is this new loss of time supposed to teach
> something too? Why not put instructions in the right place?
>
> You really think MY problem is I'm used to dealing with companies?
>

---

You have a problem. Several people offered you solutions but you are
reluctant to try it out.It is not clear why you ask for help if you are
not willing to try the suggestions offered.

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Frank Cox  wrote:

>
> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 18:48 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> >
> > YOU say it's a solution. I don't know you, I don't deal with you. If
> > Fedora  believes it's a solution, I'll apply it.
>
> You don't "know" anyone on this mailing list.
>
> You're in the wrong place, and I'm not trying to provoke or anger you
> with this observation; it's a sincere attempt to help you (though you
> aren't making it particularly easy).
>

It might very well be but I've been very frustrated by the time I lost
installing Kmod. The solution I found at RPMFusion worked very well and it's
not a company. It's people dealing with said module installation.

Your solution might or might not work but, even if it did, it's going to be
just another one amongst the gazillions on the net. How would somebody with
the same desinstallation problem find the reference here? What's the limit
to "Google is your friend"? Is this new loss of time supposed to teach
something too? Why not put instructions in the right place?

You really think MY problem is I'm used to dealing with companies?
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Antonio Olivares]

First off, Red Hat isn't asking thousands of dollars from companies that are 
using Linux as a word processor.  The entitlement for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
Desktop is like $320/year or so.  If you're paying the "thousands of dollars 
per year" on your RHEL entitlement, then you're not running OpenOffice.org 
Writer on it.  


Secondly, Red Hat doesn't charge anything at all (nor could they) for Fedora, 
which is what you're using -- the free consumer product.  Not only are you 
using a free product, you're using an old version of it.


Facts are never trolling, but attitude is.  When you march in here and sort of 
turn up your nose, snort, and act all disgusted that your free product doesn't 
offer the feature you want and make noise like everyone who thinks it's great 
anyway is an idiot, then that's trolling.  If you think this is going to garner 
sympathy for your cause you are, as you imply, daydreaming.


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Amen!!!  Halelluyah!!!  This guy has to know that if you compare Fast Food 
places to Operating Systems, Fedora is "not like Burger King" :)  

Why?
At Burger King, you could get it your way :), but with Fedora you get it there 
way or you don't get the damn thing :)

Some kind people have offered you solutions, you don't like them.  You want for 
Fedora to do it your way, but Fedora is "not Burger King"

You have been told, (download Openoffice.org rpms) and install them, but you 
would need to remove OpenOffice.org from Fedora and then install them via rpm 
or yum localinstall OpenOffice.org-3.2.1-x.rpm

Now, please stop your whining and complaining.  I don't know why, but this does 
not add anything valuable to Fedora users.

Regards,

Antonio 


  
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Alan Cox  wrote:

> > Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for
> 5-7
> > years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really
> > competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure.
>
> If you want to run Windows then do so.


Hey, that's exactly the answer I said wouldn't help Red Hat. Great! I'm
surprised it comes from a former kernel maintainer. Maybe that's the spirit
at Red Hat?


> We will be very happy for you to
> do so. Most sales people I know had a category for people like you -
> the "I hope he buys the competitors product" category.
>

It's true! But I know a software company who eliminated all competition
because they took good note of my comments... amongst many others. Why does
Apple make billions with a *NIX system while Linux cannot get much desktop
market share? Are you really sure there's not a problem of attitude and,
possibly, with the development model. Now that Red Hat knows -- because
you're pretty close to Red Hat, I believe :) -- how long will it take before
this bug gets fixed? Or is there some Bugzilla you'd like to refer me too to
explain the obvious so that Red Hat responsibility is not involved?

>
> Red Hat has big contracts with some very big very bright and successful
> companies.


And they ship OOo with such obvious bugs or do they make a special for
Fedora users?

Now it could be they are all collectively stupid and you are
> only the clueful person on the planet, but I umm doubt it somehow.
>

I don't care if people are stupid or not. I care about obvious bugs not
being fixed and I wonder how come this can possibly happen, mainly when the
competition -- read Google, Intel/Nokia -- is caring about users and
striving to provide quality software. Did it ever occured to you that, after
filling their search engine with Android users, Google could offer server
services as efficiently as Red Hat, and with a huge user base?

Tell me, dear developer, how do you see Red Hat's future otherwise than as a
remake of Sun's story? Developers are so clever one wonders how come Steve
Jobs, who never wrote a line of code in his life, runs Apple.

Also you have another thing confused:
>
> Fedora is a *project* not a product.


What's this supposed to mean? That you can escape all problems by sending
users to Bugzillas?

Its a bunch of people who together
> put in and get various things out of a common project for whatever reason
> makes sense to them.
>

What makes sense to them? Failing? OK, Red Hat is doing fine now, but the
scenery is changing fast. If you see the future as a continuation of
yesterday, you're doomed. Did you ever wonder who's Steve Jobs or the
management at Google's? They're people who have one thing in sight: the
user. And they succeed. People who have geek "projects" in mind fail. Of
course, Red Hat is moving forward but is it at the right pace? Google, who
went public five years after Red Hat now has 25x the market capitalization.
If your good friend :) Linux Torvalds had to entrust Linux's future to a
company, which one  would it be?

I strongly believe more attention should be given to users' problems and
wills. Ask Shuttleworth. No Goldman and Sachs will make you a millionaire in
his story. Not only is he putting every cent back into Canonical. but
instead of getting a pay, he adds some of his own, only to accelerate
growth. It's funny, I don't feel the same drive in Red Hat
multi-millionaires *EOs. On a lesser scale Red Hat is facing the same growth
problem as Microsoft.

Your buzz off answer won't solve this kind of problem. It never has and
never will. If your spirit is the kind that rules at Red Hat, no doubt Red
Hat is doomed.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/16/2010 05:46 AM, JD wrote:
>   On 07/15/2010 05:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>   
>> On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the
>>> possible immediate intellectual property problem may be?  The bug
>>> report doesn't specify anything.
>>>   
>> I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents
>>
>> Rahul
>> 
> Are asking OPEN SOURCE people to help you create
> a CLOSED AND PROPRIETARY "something"??
> What a farce!
>   

I am not sure how to parse that statement.  Can you rephrase with less
shouting?

Rahul
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[JD]

  On 07/15/2010 05:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>> Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the
>> possible immediate intellectual property problem may be?  The bug
>> report doesn't specify anything.
> I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents
>
> Rahul
Are asking OPEN SOURCE people to help you create
a CLOSED AND PROPRIETARY "something"??
What a farce!
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/16/2010 05:27 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the
> possible immediate intellectual property problem may be?  The bug
> report doesn't specify anything.

I have no specific knowledge in this case but perhaps patents

Rahul
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:

> On 07/16/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> >
> > Meanwhile, if Red Hat wants to continue shipping its product with such
> > an obvious bug, so be it. That's unless Red Hat is well aware of the
> > bug and ships it with Fedora to entice users to use their commercial
> > version. (Why is it that I believe this won't work?)
>
> Again, refer to  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=190191
>
> Fedora is not a Red Hat product and Red Hat Enterprise Linux does not
> include this feature either.  So that reasoning is illogical.
>


Rahul,

The bug says,

Red Hat reviews and scrubs its code for intellectual property issues. Our
approach has always been conservative, i.e., if there is any question, resolve
the issue or remove the code.  Red Hat recently implemented a number of changes
in its distribution of OpenOffice to address such issues.  These changes should
not be construed as implying any immediate intellectual property problem;
rather, they have been implemented to assure that no such immediate problems
arise. While implementing these changes in our own distribution of OpenOffice,
we have also made them available upstream to the OpenOffice project.


Is there any word (that you've heard by rumor) that indicates what the
possible immediate intellectual property problem may be?  The bug report
doesn't specify anything.

Thank you.

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/16/2010 04:43 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, if Red Hat wants to continue shipping its product with such
> an obvious bug, so be it. That's unless Red Hat is well aware of the
> bug and ships it with Fedora to entice users to use their commercial
> version. (Why is it that I believe this won't work?)

Again, refer to  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=190191

Fedora is not a Red Hat product and Red Hat Enterprise Linux does not
include this feature either.  So that reasoning is illogical.

Rahul
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Christofer C. Bell <
christofer.c.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
>
>
>> But that's just me and, of course, I'm a troll. I mean, is there any logic
>> in what I'm saying? Of course,  everybody knows if you don't pay, you
>> shouldn't complain about flawed software whose bugs any idiot could identify
>> at first sight. You shouldn't complain about no instructions being provided
>> for uninstalling Nvidia drivers, and so on. You shouldn't complain.
>>
>
> The problem isn't that you complain, it's that you bitch.  If you'd like to
> stop being a troll, it's easy.  Go file your "complaints" as bugs in
> Bugzilla and stop bitching on fedora-users.
>

Sure! The day I believe that OOo developers never noticed the disappearance
of the tab or, at least, that this fundamental function doesn't work, I'll
file a bug report.

Meanwhile, if Red Hat wants to continue shipping its product with such an
obvious bug, so be it. That's unless Red Hat is well aware of the bug and
ships it with Fedora to entice users to use their commercial version. (Why
is it that I believe this won't work?)

Please everybody, stop nagging me with filling reports on bugs that can't
possibly have escaped developers attention: this problem is all over the
net.

Excuse me for being frank but your answer isn't a proof of much cleverness.
All others who have the same kind of answer, please refrain.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Frank Cox]

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 23:54 +0100, Steve Searle wrote:
> 
> And you are not telling the truth when you say you only trust Fedora
> software, since you also use the Fusion repo.

Furthermore, the download I pointed him to is on the official
openoffice.org webpage.  Perhaps he doesn't understand who writes the
software that he's concerned about.

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Frank Cox]

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 18:48 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> 
> YOU say it's a solution. I don't know you, I don't deal with you. If
> Fedora  believes it's a solution, I'll apply it.

You don't "know" anyone on this mailing list.

You're in the wrong place, and I'm not trying to provoke or anger you
with this observation; it's a sincere attempt to help you (though you
aren't making it particularly easy).

You are used to dealing with companies and some kind of paid technical
support and "official solutions" offered through (usually) out-sourced
help lines and the like.

To obtain the comfort level and type of service that you
expect/demand/require, you need to be using something like Microsoft
Windows, Apple's version of Unix running on a Macintosh, or perhaps some
version of Red Hat's Enterprise Linux.


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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Steve Searle]

Around 11:48pm on Thursday, July 15, 2010 (UK time), Marcel Rieux scrawled:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Frank Cox  wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 17:49 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> > > I only install Fedora's available downloads. I figure there might be
> > > problems using the latest versions if there not made available. I hope
> > > 3.2.1 comes soon, so I can see some basic features enabled.
> >
> > You presented an issue that you see as a problem.  I provided an
> > easily-implemented solution (with rpm's and everything).  Now you don't
> > want the solution.
> >
> 
> YOU say it's a solution. I don't know you, I don't deal with you. If Fedora
> believes it's a solution, I'll apply it.

Well if you won't trust the advice you are given here, why do you ask
for it.

And you are not telling the truth when you say you only trust Fedora
software, since you also use the Fusion repo.

Steve

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Frank Cox  wrote:

>
> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 17:49 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> > I only install Fedora's available downloads. I figure there might be
> > problems using the latest versions if there not made available. I hope
> > 3.2.1 comes soon, so I can see some basic features enabled.
>
> You presented an issue that you see as a problem.  I provided an
> easily-implemented solution (with rpm's and everything).  Now you don't
> want the solution.
>

YOU say it's a solution. I don't know you, I don't deal with you. If Fedora
believes it's a solution, I'll apply it.

Thanks.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Alan Cox]

> Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for 5-7
> years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really
> competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure.

If you want to run Windows then do so. We will be very happy for you to
do so. Most sales people I know had a category for people like you -
the "I hope he buys the competitors product" category.

Red Hat has big contracts with some very big very bright and successful
companies. Now it could be they are all collectively stupid and you are
only the clueful person on the planet, but I umm doubt it somehow.

Also you have another thing confused:

Fedora is a *project* not a product. Its a bunch of people who together
put in and get various things out of a common project for whatever reason
makes sense to them.

That in many ways is quite different to something like Android which you
buy as part of a phone.

Alan
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:


> But that's just me and, of course, I'm a troll. I mean, is there any logic
> in what I'm saying? Of course,  everybody knows if you don't pay, you
> shouldn't complain about flawed software whose bugs any idiot could identify
> at first sight. You shouldn't complain about no instructions being provided
> for uninstalling Nvidia drivers, and so on. You shouldn't complain.
>

The problem isn't that you complain, it's that you bitch.  If you'd like to
stop being a troll, it's easy.  Go file your "complaints" as bugs in
Bugzilla and stop bitching on fedora-users.

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Christofer C. Bell <
christofer.c.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
>
>>
>> How does Red Hat manages to ask thousand of dollars from companies when
>> Linux's main word processing software doesn't offer such basic
>> functionalities?
>>
>> Excuse me for trolling with facts -- because anything that's not hip, hip,
>> hurrah is trolling -- but I wonder if I'm not daydreaming wasting my time on
>> the net for something that should exist I'm told everywhere... but doesn't.
>>
>
> First off, Red Hat isn't asking thousands of dollars from companies that
> are using Linux as a word processor.  The entitlement for Red Hat Enterprise
> Linux Desktop is like $320/year or so.
>

$320 for one or a thousand desktops? For one, it's rather expensive, mainly
when the software doesn't work and nobody gives a damn. For a thousand, if
the software worked, at 32¢ per year it would be really cheap. I would think
that it's rather $320 than 32¢ a year for software that, in both cases,
doesn't work well. Problem!


>
> Secondly, Red Hat doesn't charge anything at all (nor could they) for
> Fedora, which is what you're using -- the free consumer product.  Not only
> are you using a free product, you're using an old version of it.
>

Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for 5-7
years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really
competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure.

>
> Facts are never trolling, but attitude is.  When you march in here and sort
> of turn up your nose, snort, and act all disgusted that your free product
> doesn't offer the feature you want
>

It's not the feature I want. It's the standard feature everybody needs and
has been available for years. Whare the hell has the Replace tab gone? Who
the hell has removed it? Does anybody know who's making Linux go awry?


> and make noise like everyone who thinks it's great anyway is an idiot
>

As Chrome OS, Android and Meego are about to flood the market, I do believe
everyone who thinks flawed software is great anyways is an idiot. You got
thisi right.

But that's just me and, of course, I'm a troll. I mean, is there any logic
in what I'm saying? Of course,  everybody knows if you don't pay, you
shouldn't complain about flawed software whose bugs any idiot could identify
at first sight. You shouldn't complain about no instructions being provided
for uninstalling Nvidia drivers, and so on. You shouldn't complain. As
Ballmer explains, when it's free, it's necessarily flawed. You should fill
reports on bugs that developers couldn't possibly help escaping.

Once you understand that Google and Intel/Nokia are Linux's future... hum,
why not Oracle too? you should just shut your yap, be patient and never
complain.

Thanks for your opinion, but I do believe I've heard it once or twice from
topmost so-called Linux advocates on this group. Nothing new.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Frank Cox]

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 17:49 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> I only install Fedora's available downloads. I figure there might be
> problems using the latest versions if there not made available. I hope
> 3.2.1 comes soon, so I can see some basic features enabled.

You presented an issue that you see as a problem.  I provided an
easily-implemented solution (with rpm's and everything).  Now you don't
want the solution.


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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Frank Cox  wrote:

>
> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 16:47 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> > You have OOo 3.2.1 available on CentOS 5 when only 3.1.1 is available
> > on Fedora 12? Rather surprising!
>
> OO 3.2.1 is readily available for download directly from the
> openoffice.org website.  It comes as a set of rpm files that can be
> easily installed on Centos, RedHat and Fedora.  I not aware of any
> reason why you couldn't install OO 3.2.1 from the openoffice.org website
> on Fedora 12, though I've never actually tried it.
>
> I only install Fedora's available downloads. I figure there might be
> problems using the latest versions if there not made available. I hope 3.2.1
> comes soon, so I can see some basic features enabled.
>
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:

>
> How does Red Hat manages to ask thousand of dollars from companies when
> Linux's main word processing software doesn't offer such basic
> functionalities?
>
> Excuse me for trolling with facts -- because anything that's not hip, hip,
> hurrah is trolling -- but I wonder if I'm not daydreaming wasting my time on
> the net for something that should exist I'm told everywhere... but doesn't.
>

First off, Red Hat isn't asking thousands of dollars from companies that are
using Linux as a word processor.  The entitlement for Red Hat Enterprise
Linux Desktop is like $320/year or so.  If you're paying the "thousands of
dollars per year" on your RHEL entitlement, then you're not running
OpenOffice.org Writer on it.

Secondly, Red Hat doesn't charge anything at all (nor could they) for
Fedora, which is what you're using -- the free consumer product.  Not only
are you using a free product, you're using an old version of it.

Facts are never trolling, but attitude is.  When you march in here and sort
of turn up your nose, snort, and act all disgusted that your free product
doesn't offer the feature you want and make noise like everyone who thinks
it's great anyway is an idiot, then that's trolling.  If you think this is
going to garner sympathy for your cause you are, as you imply, daydreaming.

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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Frank Cox]

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 16:47 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> You have OOo 3.2.1 available on CentOS 5 when only 3.1.1 is available
> on Fedora 12? Rather surprising!

OO 3.2.1 is readily available for download directly from the
openoffice.org website.  It comes as a set of rpm files that can be
easily installed on Centos, RedHat and Fedora.  I not aware of any
reason why you couldn't install OO 3.2.1 from the openoffice.org website
on Fedora 12, though I've never actually tried it.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Frank Cox  wrote:

>
> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 15:17 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> > It's no mystery why "no one knows how to make autocorrections," the
> > functionality doesn't exist.  It's documented in the help files how to
> > something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist
> > on the AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no "Replace" tab
> > available).
>
> I run Ooenoffice 3.2.1 (downloaded directly from openoffice.org) on this
> Centos 5 machine and I have a Replace tab on the Tools-Autocorrect
> window.
>
> You have OOo 3.2.1 available on CentOS 5 when only 3.1.1 is available on
Fedora 12? Rather surprising!
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Christofer C. Bell <
christofer.c.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
> >
> > No. as the tile and the line above say, I mean in OOo 3.3.1
> >
> > Still no answer to this question. Isn't it amazing that that no Fedora
> user,
> > including me, knows how to make autocorrections in OOo 3.1.1? No doubt I
> > should register to OOo forums to be fed some more nonsence.
>
> It's no mystery why "no one knows how to make autocorrections," the
> functionality doesn't exist.  It's documented in the help files how to
> something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist on the
> AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no "Replace" tab available).
>
> I have automatically Check Spelling enabled. That's not what I want. I want
AutoCorrection, a very basic functionality in word processors nowadays. From
the documentation on the net, it even seems the "feature" was  once offered.
Who removed the tab? Should I write to Oracle about this? Maybe they're
unaware of the tab disappearance because they use MS Office?

How does Red Hat manages to ask thousand of dollars from companies when
Linux's main word processing software doesn't offer such basic
functionalities?

Excuse me for trolling with facts -- because anything that's not hip, hip,
hurrah is trolling -- but I wonder if I'm not daydreaming wasting my time on
the net for something that should exist I'm told everywhere... but doesn't.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Frank Cox]

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 15:17 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> It's no mystery why "no one knows how to make autocorrections," the
> functionality doesn't exist.  It's documented in the help files how to
> something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist
> on the AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no "Replace" tab
> available).

I run Ooenoffice 3.2.1 (downloaded directly from openoffice.org) on this
Centos 5 machine and I have a Replace tab on the Tools-Autocorrect
window.

A complete list of the available tabs: Replace, Exceptions, Options,
Custom Quotes, Word Completion.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
>
> No. as the tile and the line above say, I mean in OOo 3.3.1
>
> Still no answer to this question. Isn't it amazing that that no Fedora
user,
> including me, knows how to make autocorrections in OOo 3.1.1? No doubt I
> should register to OOo forums to be fed some more nonsence.

It's no mystery why "no one knows how to make autocorrections," the
functionality doesn't exist.  It's documented in the help files how to
something similar, but the necessary configuration tab doesn't exist on the
AutoCorrect Options control panel (there is no "Replace" tab available).

  Automatically Check Spelling

You can have OpenOffice.org automatically check spelling while you type and
underline possible misspelt words with a red wavy line.
To Check Spelling Automatically While You Type

   1.

   Activate the *AutoSpellcheck *icon on the Standard bar.
   2.

   Right-click a word with a red wavy underline, and then choose a suggested
   replacement word from the list, or from the *AutoCorrect *submenu.

If you choose a word from the *AutoCorrect* submenu, the underlined word and
the replacement word are automatically added to the AutoCorrect list for the
current language. To view the AutoCorrect list, choose *Tools – AutoCorrect
Options*, and then click the *Replace* tab.

You can also add the underlined word to your custom dictionary by choosing *
Add*.
To Exclude Words From the Spellcheck

   1.

   Select the words that you want to exclude.
   2.

   Click the Language control on the Status bar to open a menu.
   3.

   Choose “None (Do not check spelling)”.



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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

> On 07/14/2010 03:54 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Smith, Herb
>  wrote:
> >
> >> *From:* users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:
> >> users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcel Rieux
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM
> >> *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> >> *Subject:* OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating
> in
> >> Firefox when zoomed in
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as "teh" to be
> >> automatically corrected to "the". I searched the web but all the
> solutions I
> >> found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does
> anybody
> >> know how to do this?
>
> If you mean in Firefox
>

No. as the tile and the line above say, I mean in OOo 3.3.1

Still no answer to this question. Isn't it amazing that that no Fedora user,
including me, knows how to make autocorrections in OOo 3.1.1? No doubt I
should register to OOo forums to be fed some more nonsence.

One wonders how MS Office is doing so good... Sabotage somewhere? Will
anybody now pretend that Oracle is not sabotaging Open Solaris? So why not
sabotage OOo in one fell swoop?

Fortunately Red Hat doesn't offer any service to companies using OOo :)
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Rick Stevens]

On 07/14/2010 03:54 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Smith, Herb  wrote:
>
>> *From:* users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:
>> users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcel Rieux
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM
>> *To:* Community support for Fedora users
>> *Subject:* OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in
>> Firefox when zoomed in
>>
>>
>>
>> I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as "teh" to be
>> automatically corrected to "the". I searched the web but all the solutions I
>> found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody
>> know how to do this?

If you mean in Firefox, "Edit->Preferences->Composition->Spelling tab".
You probably want both the "Check spelling before sending" and "Enable 
spell check as you type" boxes checked.

>>
>> I often use the zoom in Firefox, Is there any way to make Firefox remember
>> a default zoom?

I don't think so as each page is rendered according to what the site
says.  From there you can zoom in and out.

>> Is there a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the right of the
>> screen when zoomed in? Always using the bottom scrollbar is a pain.

I think the arrow keys do that.  Perhaps a combo of ctrl, alt or meta
with the mouse wheel.
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Re: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Marcel Rieux]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Smith, Herb  wrote:

> *From:* users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:
> users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcel Rieux
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM
> *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> *Subject:* OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in
> Firefox when zoomed in
>
>
>
> I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as "teh" to be
> automatically corrected to "the". I searched the web but all the solutions I
> found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody
> know how to do this?
>
> I often use the zoom in Firefox, Is there any way to make Firefox remember
> a default zoom? Is there a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the right of the
> screen when zoomed in? Always using the bottom scrollbar is a pain.
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Tools -> AutoCorrect Options -> Replace tab
>
> You can set up automatic replacements for various errors in typing there...
>

This has been my problem all along: I don't find the tabs, here, the replace
tab.

I use the french interface and, under Autocorrection, I have (translated
when needed):

 1st tab: Exceptions

 2nd tab: Options

 3rd tab: Typographic quotes

 4th tab: Automatic insertion

I see nothing anywhere under these tabs to make autocorrections.
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RE: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox when zoomed in

[Smith, Herb]

From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Marcel Rieux
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:26 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: OT: Autocorrection in OOo 3.1.1 and shortcut for navigating in Firefox 
when zoomed in

I often type voyels too fast so I'd like errors such as "teh" to be 
automatically corrected to "the". I searched the web but all the solutions I 
found involved using menu entries that are not in OOo 3.1.1. Does anybody know 
how to do this?

I often use the zoom in Firefox, Is there any way to make Firefox remember a 
default zoom? Is there a keyboard shortcut to navigate to the right of the 
screen when zoomed in? Always using the bottom scrollbar is a pain.

TIA

Tools -> AutoCorrect Options -> Replace tab

You can set up automatic replacements for various errors in typing there

Herb
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