Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/13/18 1:00 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
> Figured it out.
>
> Feedback from Xfce is that this is a know bug in GTK3:
> https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50258#p50258
>
>   This is a bug in GTK3: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1371
>
>   In Xfce it can be fixed by changing the value of
>   /Gtk/CursorThemeSize to 16.
>

Thanks for that.

KDE doesn't have an option in their GUI for setting the value.  So one needs to 
manually
edit the settings.ini


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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/9/18 6:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.

:-)

Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up


launcher panels no longer scale
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828

xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827

xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829

panel icon size ignored on pop up
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830

mailing list is down
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831



And one more:

black background on panel icons
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842


And another one:

Krusader and other do not show up on the panel0 task bar
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14854


And yet another one:

Libre Office pulses at me
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863



Figured it out.

Feedback from Xfce is that this is a know bug in GTK3:
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50258#p50258

  This is a bug in GTK3: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1371

  In Xfce it can be fixed by changing the value of
  /Gtk/CursorThemeSize to 16.


--> Applications
  --> Settings Editor
--> Others
  --> Settings Editor
--> xsettings
  --> xsetting (bottom left)
--> Gtk (drop down pointer on right)
  --> CursorThemeSize (default is 21, change to 16)




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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Sam Varshavchik]

Ed Greshko writes:


On 11/11/18 9:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/11/18 8:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>>> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document  
preview image,

>>> this image starts blinking.
>>> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon  
(e.g., open a
>>> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image  
will start

>>> flickering).
>>>
>>> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and  
the X.org version

>>> of GNOME).
>> It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 
>>
>> Should probably should check under MATE.
>>
> FYI, the flickering is fixed if I install libreoffice-kde4.  However,  
another problem
> happens if I change to Chinese input with ibus and try to enter Chinese  
text.  LibreOffice will crash.

>
Erasing libreoffice-gtk3 will stop the flickering on KDE and allow me to  
enter Chinese. 
Using libreoffice-gtk2 instead of libreoffice-gtk3 does cause issues with  
the display of
some fonts in previously created documents.  So, I'm not sure which is  
worse.  The
flickering or having to fix previous documents.  Probably the flickering I  
can live with

easier.


Yeah, I see this. If I move the pointer inside the icon, but still within  
the icon's area, the flickering stops. After I stop, half a second later the  
flickering comes back.


The flicking seems to be caused by repeated rendering of the pointer focus  
border around the icon, and the icon's gradient background, when the pointer  
is on top of it. Also, with no mouse movement, the mouse pointer itself  
seems to occasionally jump about a dozen pixels diagonally, before snapping  
back to its actual position.


Something is losing track of the mouse pointer and thinks it moved away,  
draws the icon as if it's no longer under the pointer, then realizes that  
no, the pointer is where it should be, so the icon should still be  
highlighted.


top shows libreoffice's process eating 12% CPU, and X itself adds another  
15% on top of it.





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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/11/18 9:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/11/18 8:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>>> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document 
>>> preview image,
>>> this image starts blinking.
>>> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon 
>>> (e.g., open a
>>> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image will 
>>> start
>>> flickering).
>>>
>>> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the 
>>> X.org version
>>> of GNOME).
>> It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 
>>
>> Should probably should check under MATE.
>>
> FYI, the flickering is fixed if I install libreoffice-kde4.  However, another 
> problem
> happens if I change to Chinese input with ibus and try to enter Chinese text. 
>  LibreOffice will crash.
>
Erasing libreoffice-gtk3 will stop the flickering on KDE and allow me to enter 
Chinese. 
Using libreoffice-gtk2 instead of libreoffice-gtk3 does cause issues with the 
display of
some fonts in previously created documents.  So, I'm not sure which is worse.  
The
flickering or having to fix previous documents.  Probably the flickering I can 
live with
easier.
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/11/18 8:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document 
>> preview image,
>> this image starts blinking.
>> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon (e.g., 
>> open a
>> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image will 
>> start
>> flickering).
>>
>> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the 
>> X.org version
>> of GNOME).
> It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 
>
> Should probably should check under MATE.
>

FYI, the flickering is fixed if I install libreoffice-kde4.  However, another 
problem
happens if I change to Chinese input with ibus and try to enter Chinese text.  
LibreOffice
will crash.

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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document 
> preview image,
> this image starts blinking.
> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon (e.g., 
> open a
> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image will 
> start
> flickering).
>
> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the 
> X.org version
> of GNOME).

It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 

Should probably should check under MATE.

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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Marco Guazzone]

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:50 PM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On 11/10/18 12:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > ToddAndMargo via users writes:
> >
> >> On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >>
> >> And yet another one:
> >>
> >> Libre Office pulses at me
> >> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"?
> >
> > A very brief check doesn't appear to result in anything unusual. I
> > started writer and typed "Lorem Ipsum" into an empty document, and it
> > sat there, for a while, and the only thing is continued to do is blink
> > the cursor.
> >
> > Firefox seems normal. Firefox is very sensitive to unusual desktop and
> > video hardware, and so far so good. I will soon be recompiling my X
> > toolkit library and see how it behaves with whatever XFCE uses as its
> > window manager. Should be able to see any oddities.
>
> It is only LibreOffice.  It looks like it very quickly minimized
> and them restores.  It is fast enough that you can't see anything
> behind the window.  I just see a flicker.
>

I'm also experiencing this flickering issue under XFCE.
If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document
preview image, this image starts blinking.
A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon
(e.g., open a document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button;
the image will start flickering).

This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the
X.org version of GNOME).

Marco
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/10/18 12:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

ToddAndMargo via users writes:


On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

And yet another one:

Libre Office pulses at me
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863


What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"?

A very brief check doesn't appear to result in anything unusual. I 
started writer and typed "Lorem Ipsum" into an empty document, and it 
sat there, for a while, and the only thing is continued to do is blink 
the cursor.


Firefox seems normal. Firefox is very sensitive to unusual desktop and 
video hardware, and so far so good. I will soon be recompiling my X 
toolkit library and see how it behaves with whatever XFCE uses as its 
window manager. Should be able to see any oddities.


It is only LibreOffice.  It looks like it very quickly minimized
and them restores.  It is fast enough that you can't see anything
behind the window.  I just see a flicker.
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Sam Varshavchik]

ToddAndMargo via users writes:


On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

And yet another one:

Libre Office pulses at me
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863


What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"?

A very brief check doesn't appear to result in anything unusual. I started  
writer and typed "Lorem Ipsum" into an empty document, and it sat there, for  
a while, and the only thing is continued to do is blink the cursor.


Firefox seems normal. Firefox is very sensitive to unusual desktop and video  
hardware, and so far so good. I will soon be recompiling my X toolkit  
library and see how it behaves with whatever XFCE uses as its window  
manager. Should be able to see any oddities.


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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/9/18 7:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 11/10/18 10:25 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


And yet another one:

Libre Office pulses at me
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863


I'm having no problems with LibreOffice on a fully updated F29 system (in a VM).

Just to verify, maybe try creating a new user and test with clean settings?



I can't at the moment with all the VM's I have open.
But it is a good idea.  Bozo has his own account on
my system for just such purposes

:-)


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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/10/18 10:25 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
> And yet another one:
>
> Libre Office pulses at me
> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863

I'm having no problems with LibreOffice on a fully updated F29 system (in a VM).

Just to verify, maybe try creating a new user and test with clean settings?

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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.

:-)

Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up


launcher panels no longer scale
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828

xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827

xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829

panel icon size ignored on pop up
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830

mailing list is down
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831



And one more:

black background on panel icons
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842


And another one:

Krusader and other do not show up on the panel0 task bar
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14854


And yet another one:

Libre Office pulses at me
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863

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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Richard Shaw]

I haven't tried XFCE in a while but I have recently installed the LXDE spin
on a couple of older computers. I've had some issues that were mostly fixed
by packages in updates-testing but the combination that has worked best for
me is replacing LXDE with SDDM for login purposes.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/7/18 4:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 11/7/18 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote:

On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:


On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users
mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote:

     On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
  > Hi All,
  >
  > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
  > last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.
  >
  > :-)
  >
  > Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up
  >
  >
  > launcher panels no longer scale
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828
  >
  > xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827
  >
  > xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829
  >
  > panel icon size ignored on pop up
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830
  >
  > mailing list is down
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831
  >

     And one more:

     black background on panel icons
     https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842



I also experienced some problems with XFCE 4.13 in Fedora 29:
- weird colors in the workspace switcher (it is difficult to
understand what is the current workspace)
- icons in systray do not fit well
- windows sometimes forget their maximization status: if a window is
maximized and then "unmaximized", sometimes that window remains
maximized (currently, this happened only with xfce-terminal)
- some apps has strange behaviour; for instance, the welcome screen
of AndroidStudio does not appear at the center of the screen and the
menu of the AndroidStudio window looks shifted towards the left
- the XFCE's Applications Menu takes long to appear the first time

Best,

Marco


Libre Office 6 Calc "blinks" at me every two second, until
I activate a cell

Inkscape won't allow me to resize a windowed window until
I double click on the title bar at the top.

And the Xfce mailing list is down.  Maybe they got tired of the
bitching.

Do you know of any Xfce like alternatives?



MATE spin perhaps?  Not exactly like xfce and a bit heavier but it is
a fork of Gnome 2, I believe.


~~R


I will live USB it.  Thank you!

I must have put seven bugs into Xfce and not a peep out of them.
I wonder if the project is dead?  If so, it is a pity.  I really
like Xfce.


It's certainly not dead. The forum is pretty active.


Their mailing list is complete dead.

I universally do not like forums as they are so cumbersome to use.
Maybe Xfce has dropped their mailing list?



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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Rick Stevens]

On 11/7/18 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote:
>> On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 >>> > wrote:

     On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
  > Hi All,
  >
  > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
  > last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.
  >
  > :-)
  >
  > Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up
  >
  >
  > launcher panels no longer scale
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828
  >
  > xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827
  >
  > xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829
  >
  > panel icon size ignored on pop up
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830
  >
  > mailing list is down
  > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831
  >

     And one more:

     black background on panel icons
     https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842



 I also experienced some problems with XFCE 4.13 in Fedora 29:
 - weird colors in the workspace switcher (it is difficult to
 understand what is the current workspace)
 - icons in systray do not fit well
 - windows sometimes forget their maximization status: if a window is
 maximized and then "unmaximized", sometimes that window remains
 maximized (currently, this happened only with xfce-terminal)
 - some apps has strange behaviour; for instance, the welcome screen
 of AndroidStudio does not appear at the center of the screen and the
 menu of the AndroidStudio window looks shifted towards the left
 - the XFCE's Applications Menu takes long to appear the first time

 Best,

 Marco
>>>
>>> Libre Office 6 Calc "blinks" at me every two second, until
>>> I activate a cell
>>>
>>> Inkscape won't allow me to resize a windowed window until
>>> I double click on the title bar at the top.
>>>
>>> And the Xfce mailing list is down.  Maybe they got tired of the
>>> bitching.
>>>
>>> Do you know of any Xfce like alternatives?
>>>
>>>
>> MATE spin perhaps?  Not exactly like xfce and a bit heavier but it is
>> a fork of Gnome 2, I believe.
>>
>>
>> ~~R
> 
> I will live USB it.  Thank you!
> 
> I must have put seven bugs into Xfce and not a peep out of them.
> I wonder if the project is dead?  If so, it is a pity.  I really
> like Xfce.

It's certainly not dead. The forum is pretty active.
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote:

On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:


On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users 
> wrote:


    On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
 > Hi All,
 >
 > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
 > last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.
 >
 > :-)
 >
 > Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up
 >
 >
 > launcher panels no longer scale
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828
 >
 > xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827
 >
 > xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829
 >
 > panel icon size ignored on pop up
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830
 >
 > mailing list is down
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831
 >

    And one more:

    black background on panel icons
    https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842



I also experienced some problems with XFCE 4.13 in Fedora 29:
- weird colors in the workspace switcher (it is difficult to 
understand what is the current workspace)

- icons in systray do not fit well
- windows sometimes forget their maximization status: if a window is 
maximized and then "unmaximized", sometimes that window remains 
maximized (currently, this happened only with xfce-terminal)
- some apps has strange behaviour; for instance, the welcome screen 
of AndroidStudio does not appear at the center of the screen and the 
menu of the AndroidStudio window looks shifted towards the left

- the XFCE's Applications Menu takes long to appear the first time

Best,

Marco


Libre Office 6 Calc "blinks" at me every two second, until
I activate a cell

Inkscape won't allow me to resize a windowed window until
I double click on the title bar at the top.

And the Xfce mailing list is down.  Maybe they got tired of the
bitching.

Do you know of any Xfce like alternatives?


MATE spin perhaps?  Not exactly like xfce and a bit heavier but it is a 
fork of Gnome 2, I believe.



~~R


I will live USB it.  Thank you!

I must have put seven bugs into Xfce and not a peep out of them.
I wonder if the project is dead?  If so, it is a pity.  I really
like Xfce.

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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Richard England]

On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:


On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users 
> wrote:


    On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
 > Hi All,
 >
 > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
 > last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.
 >
 > :-)
 >
 > Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up
 >
 >
 > launcher panels no longer scale
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828
 >
 > xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827
 >
 > xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829
 >
 > panel icon size ignored on pop up
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830
 >
 > mailing list is down
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831
 >

    And one more:

    black background on panel icons
    https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842



I also experienced some problems with XFCE 4.13 in Fedora 29:
- weird colors in the workspace switcher (it is difficult to 
understand what is the current workspace)

- icons in systray do not fit well
- windows sometimes forget their maximization status: if a window is 
maximized and then "unmaximized", sometimes that window remains 
maximized (currently, this happened only with xfce-terminal)
- some apps has strange behaviour; for instance, the welcome screen 
of AndroidStudio does not appear at the center of the screen and the 
menu of the AndroidStudio window looks shifted towards the left

- the XFCE's Applications Menu takes long to appear the first time

Best,

Marco


Libre Office 6 Calc "blinks" at me every two second, until
I activate a cell

Inkscape won't allow me to resize a windowed window until
I double click on the title bar at the top.

And the Xfce mailing list is down.  Maybe they got tired of the
bitching.

Do you know of any Xfce like alternatives?


MATE spin perhaps?  Not exactly like xfce and a bit heavier but it is a 
fork of Gnome 2, I believe.



~~R
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.

:-)

Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up


launcher panels no longer scale
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828

xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827

xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829

panel icon size ignored on pop up
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830

mailing list is down
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831



And one more:

black background on panel icons
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842


And another one:

Krusader and other do not show up on the panel0 task bar
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14854


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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:


On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users 
mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> 
wrote:


On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
 > Hi All,
 >
 > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
 > last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.
 >
 > :-)
 >
 > Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up
 >
 >
 > launcher panels no longer scale
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828
 >
 > xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827
 >
 > xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829
 >
 > panel icon size ignored on pop up
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830
 >
 > mailing list is down
 > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831
 >

And one more:

black background on panel icons
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842



I also experienced some problems with XFCE 4.13 in Fedora 29:
- weird colors in the workspace switcher (it is difficult to understand 
what is the current workspace)

- icons in systray do not fit well
- windows sometimes forget their maximization status: if a window is 
maximized and then "unmaximized", sometimes that window remains 
maximized (currently, this happened only with xfce-terminal)
- some apps has strange behaviour; for instance, the welcome screen of 
AndroidStudio does not appear at the center of the screen and the menu 
of the AndroidStudio window looks shifted towards the left

- the XFCE's Applications Menu takes long to appear the first time

Best,

Marco


Libre Office 6 Calc "blinks" at me every two second, until
I activate a cell

Inkscape won't allow me to resize a windowed window until
I double click on the title bar at the top.

And the Xfce mailing list is down.  Maybe they got tired of the
bitching.

Do you know of any Xfce like alternatives?



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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/07/2018 01:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

And the Xfce mailing list is down.  Maybe they got tired of the
bitching.


Try their forum at http://forum.xfce.org/index.php
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Marco Guazzone]

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
> > last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up
> >
> >
> > launcher panels no longer scale
> > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828
> >
> > xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
> > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827
> >
> > xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
> > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829
> >
> > panel icon size ignored on pop up
> > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830
> >
> > mailing list is down
> > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831
> >
>
> And one more:
>
> black background on panel icons
> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842
>
>
>
I also experienced some problems with XFCE 4.13 in Fedora 29:
- weird colors in the workspace switcher (it is difficult to understand
what is the current workspace)
- icons in systray do not fit well
- windows sometimes forget their maximization status: if a window is
maximized and then "unmaximized", sometimes that window remains maximized
(currently, this happened only with xfce-terminal)
- some apps has strange behaviour; for instance, the welcome screen of
AndroidStudio does not appear at the center of the screen and the menu of
the AndroidStudio window looks shifted towards the left
- the XFCE's Applications Menu takes long to appear the first time

Best,

Marco
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.

:-)

Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up


launcher panels no longer scale
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828

xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827

xfce4-about 4.13 is missing from settings
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829

panel icon size ignored on pop up
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830

mailing list is down
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14831



And one more:

black background on panel icons
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842




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