Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:10:12 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:

> Being that it is a "common issue" are you aware of any bugzilla open on this?

Just search bugzilla for "a stop job is running":

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1337526
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1307260

But they never fix it, they just wait till the release hits
EOL and let bugzilla automatically close it:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-03 Thread Ed Greshko 


On 11/03/16 14:50, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/01/2016 07:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/01/16 22:26, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> On 11/01/16 22:21, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:
> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power 
> button.
> Any ideas?
 Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a 
 terminal
 window and
 it should tell you what job is stopped.

>>> Humm.  Sadly, the jobs command will only list jobs which have been 
>>> stopped/owned by
>>> the current shell.  :-(
>>>
>> But, you can use "ps -aux" and find the process with a STAT of "T".
>>
> It's not about stopped jobs, it's about systemd trying to stop some 
> process/service. 
> This has unfortunately been a common issue.  Usually it will time out after 
> 1.5 minutes
> or maybe more, but it should eventually time out and finish the shutdown.  Or 
> try
> CTRL-ALT-DEL, that sometimes makes it continue as well.

Thanks.  I must have mis-read and/or mis-understood what was being said

Being that it is a "common issue" are you aware of any bugzilla open on this?  
I've not
seen this sort of issue on any of my systems other than one which happens only 
when there
was an NFS mount over a WiFi connection and that has been fixed about a year 
ago.

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb 

On 11/01/2016 07:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 11/01/16 22:26, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 11/01/16 22:21, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:

For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets
stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.
Any ideas?

Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a terminal 
window and
it should tell you what job is stopped.


Humm.  Sadly, the jobs command will only list jobs which have been 
stopped/owned by
the current shell.  :-(


But, you can use "ps -aux" and find the process with a STAT of "T".

It's not about stopped jobs, it's about systemd trying to stop some 
process/service.  This has unfortunately been a common issue.  Usually 
it will time out after 1.5 minutes or maybe more, but it should 
eventually time out and finish the shutdown.  Or try CTRL-ALT-DEL, that 
sometimes makes it continue as well.

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-02 Thread Go Canes 
FWIW, I have seen the same problem, and use the same solution.  It is late
in the shutdown process, so no other VTs are available to use for
troubleshooting.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> I don't know how to find out what job it is.  I'm pretty sure at this point
> you can't switch VTs, but next time it happens I'll try
>
> fred roller wrote:
>
> > Is it consistently the same job?  If so, what is the job so we can
> > investigate to program.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> >
> >> Tibor Attila Anca wrote:
> >>
> >> > Do you have any mounted network drives?
> >> >
> >> > Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
> >> >> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown
> >> >> gets
> >> >> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
> >> >> button. Any ideas?
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> >> No, nothing mounted on any network.
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Neal Becker 
I don't know how to find out what job it is.  I'm pretty sure at this point 
you can't switch VTs, but next time it happens I'll try

fred roller wrote:

> Is it consistently the same job?  If so, what is the job so we can
> investigate to program.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> 
>> Tibor Attila Anca wrote:
>>
>> > Do you have any mounted network drives?
>> >
>> > Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
>> >> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown
>> >> gets
>> >> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
>> >> button. Any ideas?
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>> No, nothing mounted on any network.
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Ed Greshko 


On 11/01/16 22:26, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> On 11/01/16 22:21, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:
>>> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
>>> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power 
>>> button.  
>>> Any ideas?
>> Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a 
>> terminal window and
>> it should tell you what job is stopped.
>>
> Humm.  Sadly, the jobs command will only list jobs which have been 
> stopped/owned by
> the current shell.  :-(
>

But, you can use "ps -aux" and find the process with a STAT of "T".

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Ed Greshko 


On 11/01/16 22:21, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:
>> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
>> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button. 
>>  
>> Any ideas?
> Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a 
> terminal window and
> it should tell you what job is stopped.
>

Humm.  Sadly, the jobs command will only list jobs which have been 
stopped/owned by
the current shell.  :-(

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Ed Greshko 


On 11/01/16 18:49, Neal Becker wrote:
> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
> Any ideas?

Next time, before you attempt to reboot, issue the "jobs" command in a terminal 
window and
it should tell you what job is stopped.

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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Tue, 01 Nov 2016 06:49:44 -0400
Neal Becker wrote:

> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
> Any ideas?

The power button is probably more drastic than necessary.
Recent versions of systemd will (finally!) respond to
holding down Ctrl-Alt-Del and stop waiting on the thing
that will never finish and go on to run the rest of
the shutdown (minor things like cleanly unmounting
disks :-).

You could also see if any of the things on this
web page help:

http://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html

(though even with all that fanaticism, I still
sometimes get stuck on a stop job on reboot).
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:04:54 +
Gary Stainburn wrote:

> shutdown -h now
> 
> This will force whatever is hanging to finish, and shut down your system 
> cleanly

Highly unlikely. Systemd is still gonna wait because it is in charge
of shutdown (and the odds are really good that by the time you
are waiting on a stop job all the vterms have been shutdown and
you won't be able to switch).
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread fred roller 
Is it consistently the same job?  If so, what is the job so we can
investigate to program.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> Tibor Attila Anca wrote:
>
> > Do you have any mounted network drives?
> >
> > Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
> >> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown
> >> gets
> >> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
> >> button. Any ideas?
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> No, nothing mounted on any network.
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Neal Becker 
Tibor Attila Anca wrote:

> Do you have any mounted network drives?
> 
> Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
>> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown
>> gets
>> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
>> button. Any ideas?
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No, nothing mounted on any network.
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Gary Stainburn 
Whatever your problem, DON'T hold down the power button - eventually you will 
stuff your system.

If all else fails, use ++ to swap to a different virtual 
console and then login and type

shutdown -h now

This will force whatever is hanging to finish, and shut down your system 
cleanly

On Tuesday 01 November 2016 10:49:44 Neal Becker wrote:
> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power
> button. Any ideas?
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Re: can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Tibor Attila Anca 
Do you have any mounted network drives?

Am 01.11.2016 um 11:49 schrieb Neal Becker:
> For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
> stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
> Any ideas?
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can't shutdown (a stop job is running...)

2016-11-01 Thread Neal Becker 
For quite some time now, when I try to reboot (from kde) the shutdown gets 
stuck saying "a stop job is running for ...".  I just hold the power button.  
Any ideas?
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