Re: production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread Peter Boy


> On 1/10/23 10:40, bruce wrote:
>> just curious.. no flames..
>>  for you guys who are sysadmins. what linux do you run in production?
>> any reasons why you use the flavor you use/?
> 

I use Fedora Server Edition on all our servers (and MacOS on desktop and 
laptop). 

It runs stable. Admistration is simple, since the defaults are strongly trimmed 
for security and stability. I can very quickly use the latest software versions 
and provide additional features for our users.

And especially a release upgrade is a breeze. 

Previously I had a mix of Scientific Linux (formerly, a CERN RHEL clone 
optimised for universities and research institutes)) and Fedora servers. Over a 
period of more than 10 years, I have not noticed any difference in terms of 
failures due to software bugs.

However, I do not have a hardware zoo either, but all Lenovo / IBM servers and 
2 explicit test machines on which I test all updates, especially kernels, 
beforehand. And in early years I had sometimes to skip an update. But that has 
gone for at least 5 years now. 






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Re: production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 2:41 PM bruce  wrote:

> hey...
>
> just curious.. no flames..
>  for you guys who are sysadmins. what linux do you run in production?
> any reasons why you use the flavor you use/?


> I’m retired, but many production systems have to support commercial
applications, which for my group doing remote sensing, included Matlab,
IDL, and SeaSpace Terrascan.   These all ran on UNIX before linux
enterprise versions were available. RedHat was often the first linux to be
supported by our applications, so became the default choice, and never gave
us reasons to look elsewhere.  Although other distros were added to the
lists supported by many commercial applications, application support was
usually better for RH.

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Re: production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 10Jan2023 15:00, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

On 1/10/23 10:40, bruce wrote:

just curious.. no flames..
 for you guys who are sysadmins. what linux do you run in production?
any reasons why you use the flavor you use/?


I use Fedora everywhere.  That keeps things simple and I like having 
the latest versions of what I'm running with little difference between 
the desktops and servers.


For personal servers this might be fine. I'm looking to reinstall our 
home server (yet again grrr) and might move from Ubuntu LTS to their 
rolling release, and do more aggressive updates (I'm in update hell just 
now - appearently I can't upgrade any more and it's only been a year, 
meaning I can't upgrade to the next release).


But for client facing servers, stability is very important. I was 
running servers serving an entire state, and stability far outweighed 
having the "latest" versions of anything. Security patches backported by 
RH is a huge service for such a platform.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/10/23 10:40, bruce wrote:

just curious.. no flames..
  for you guys who are sysadmins. what linux do you run in production?
any reasons why you use the flavor you use/?


I use Fedora everywhere.  That keeps things simple and I like having the 
latest versions of what I'm running with little difference between the 
desktops and servers.

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Re: production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 10Jan2023 14:54, Roger Heflin  wrote:

Redhat Enterprise compatible variant, mostly because there are security
updates for a long time, most versions.

And most paid support applications will only officially support RHEL
variants or SLES variants (enterprise variants).


We used to run RHEL for the same reasons. Stable and patched for long 
periods.


The flipside was that the _supplied_ versions of software also remain 
the same. But you can always build/install modern versions for 
particular application needs (in a distinct area from the OS, of 
course). And things like Docker make running almost arbitrary Linux 
software on an old-but-stable release almost trivial.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread Roger Heflin
Redhat Enterprise compatible variant, mostly because there are security
updates for a long time, most versions.

And most paid support applications will only officially support RHEL
variants or SLES variants (enterprise variants).





On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 12:41 PM bruce  wrote:

> hey...
>
> just curious.. no flames..
>  for you guys who are sysadmins. what linux do you run in production?
> any reasons why you use the flavor you use/?
>
> thanks
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Re: production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread Alex
>  for you guys who are sysadmins. what linux do you run in production?
> any reasons why you use the flavor you use/?

Linux Debian, always, everywhere. No particular reason, it's just what
I know and am used to.
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production env linux??

2023-01-10 Thread bruce
hey...

just curious.. no flames..
 for you guys who are sysadmins. what linux do you run in production?
any reasons why you use the flavor you use/?

thanks
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