Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?
Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? Thx, jackc... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?
On 02/15/2010 07:31 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 18:39 -0800, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? Hi Jack, (1) Curious about why you say Moblin is dead? I missed the announcement! see maemo.org (2) I'm writing this on a EeePC 1000HA (1GB, 160GB - but I'm using less than 20G) running F12 very nicely. excellent! thx! -Chris -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?
Wow! i fired this email off when i got home last night and it stirred quite an exchange. however, a bit of background will show my reaction is not a knee-jerk on my part, just the culmination of a path turning sour. i used to work for danger before M$ bought it out. i enjoyed the mobile sidekick platform we provided despite its targeted youth market. its use for google/email on the go was Great! this is what i must have in my truck. when i later got laid off last spring, i decided to look for a way to use Linux in a similar portable form factor. after some looking about, the hot setup seemed to be a netbook and moblin. i chose moblin as i reasoned that backed by Intel (motivated by atom sales) should be a solid platform/open src steward to begin on. i selected a product direction of OBD to USB reasoning there may be a few gearheads in the fedora crowd that should also enjoy a window to their automotive computers. the project kept me busy all summer while i looked for new work. however, i was less than overwhelmed by the moblin desktop. in a landscape precious screen, they dedicate 1/3 to twitter/social networking(waste), 1/3 to the last jpg's i've looked at (yawn), and a paltry 1/3 for my desktop with icons calendar space. 1/3 is not enough. i really just want a mobile fedora; i have it at home work, i use it, i like it. as for meetoo, err, meego, its just another social centric os trying to compete with M$ products yet to be released. i hate a deployment that hides all the behind the scenes stuff i want to know about. moblin died for me because it failed to live up to my needs. my next posts will focus on adapting fc11 to a small form factor. thx again to all that reported using fc on the eeepc. as for meego, you and the kids have fun, i got work to do. On 02/16/2010 12:12 AM, birger wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 18:39 -0800, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. As someone alse already pointed out, Moblin is not dead. What is happening is that Moblin (intel-based) and Maemo (Arm-based) are merging to create MeeGo. MeeGo is supposed to have common lower layers, and alternative UX (User eXperience) layers. There will be UX layers for cell phones, tablets, netbooks, stationary media phones, and whatnot. MeeGo will use rpm as packaging mechanism. It will run X, have gtk support, but main GUI SDK will be QT. Given that it should support intel and arm and be based on rpm, is there some way fedora and MeeGo could interact? Could a platform with Intel and Nokia as sponsors cooperate with the huge Fedora community with RedHat as sponsor? Could Fedora become a development platform for both? It would certainly help defragment linux a bit. MeeGo is set to become the biggest linux on mobile devices if Nokia mean what they say: According to Ari Jaaksi, VP Nokia “We will put all our force behind making MeeGo THE operating system” and “Nokia will ship tons of MeeGo devices, Intel, too. And others will use MeeGo in their devices. It is open, free, powerful and compatible.” That said, I prefer running Fedora on my netbooks. I actually think there is no problem at all running a full gnome on a netbook. I usually remove the panels and install cairo-dock. I also make a few gui tweaks that I am used to doing on older hardware (getting rid of gradients in window borders and so on). Seriously, a netbook is more powerful than what I used to run linux on just 1-2 years ago. birger -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]
On 02/16/2010 09:16 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Yes, they are starting out the same but you should really Google or read through some recent (as of this month) posts by @nokia folk that i did! it was full of resentful/fearful n900 n800 users fearing orphanages for their Nokia hw. talking heads can blabber all the marketing speak they want, but its the end user/developer whose opinion matters to me... i am not putting my trust in Nokia. for that matter, i'll be real leery of trusting Intel again, so much for stewardship! Not! have posted road maps and such that detail an overhaul of what they want to accomplish. I'm holding out hope they follow that plan. You're free to think Nokia won't change. -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]
HELL No! Trading one flakey vendor for a closed vendor is no plan. I am going to track down best practice for shoehorning fc11 to my netbook. FC is a known quantity (w/quality); one i have relied on with success for years. besides, they have these great user communities! ;) On 02/16/2010 09:27 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: jack craig wrote: i did! it was full of resentful/fearful n900 n800 users fearing orphanages for their Nokia hw. talking heads can blabber all the marketing speak they want, but its the end user/developer whose opinion matters to me... i am not putting my trust in Nokia. for that matter, i'll be real leery of trusting Intel again, so much for stewardship! Not! Who are you going to turn to then? Fall in line, buy an iPhone, and be a good little boy? -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Moblin to Fedora via usbdrive on netbook
Hi Folks, Its time to rip Moblin replace with Fedora on my asus netbook. I setup an image using the instructions on htis link... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#System_Requirements but upon boot, i get a short quick error msg and then moblin boots. Has anyone successfully used the usb drive approach to load fedora on a netbook/ if so, any clues to share? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Moblin to Fedora via usbdrive on netbook
On 02/26/2010 03:43 PM, Steven I Usdansky wrote: From: jack craigjcr...@extraview.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 3:23:11 PM Subject: Moblin to Fedora via usbdrive on netbook Hi Folks, Its time to rip Moblin replace with Fedora on my asus netbook. I setup an image using the instructions on htis link... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#System_Requirements but upon boot, i get a short quick error msg and then moblin boots. Has anyone successfully used the usb drive approach to load fedora on a netbook/ if so, any clues to share? tia, jackc... I'm probably misunderstanding what you're trying to do, but here's how I do it: on my Aspire One: 1. Download a live cd 2. Install livecd-tools 3. use livecd-iso-to-disk to place the iso image on a bootable USB stick 4. Boot from the USB stick and select install on hard drive hey Steven, i think you get it just fine. i was using the liveusb gui to create the usbstick. i saw the command line option in the page referenced above, but didnt try it. i'll give that a whirl. are you still running 1 GB or ram? i am concerned about how fast (or not) my result netbook performance may be... thx!! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
mplayer key to kpig!
Hi Fedora Users, I wanted to report an eclectic delight. KPIG is a colorful, almost renegade FM station out of freedom, ca. (see also www.kpig.com) i have not found a better way to play this stream than mplayer. for an interesting audio stream, try ... mplayer http://mapleton.wmlive.internapcdn.net/live_mapleton_vitalstream_com_kpigfm enjoy, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
fc12 tap not working EeePC
Hi Folks, I just migrated from moblin to fc12. i notice that my tap on teh sensor pad is no longer working on my asus EeePC 1000. the left click works, but tapping my finger on the sensor pad used to work as a click. does this not work on FC ? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fc12 tap not working EeePC
On 03/02/2010 02:49 PM, Steven Stern wrote: System menu - Preferences - Mouse. Enable tapping on the touchpad tab. Damn! I Love this OS! Thx!!! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
how to enable 11N wireless?
Hi Folks, my netbook has: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG (rev 61) Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller (rev b0) I know the 4965 supports both G N protocols. only G is being used; how do i enable N ? do i need to kick the controller? on moblin, it said AGN in the banner! Thx, jackc... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: sort question
On 03/09/2010 04:32 PM, adrian kok wrote: Hi I have file as below 192.168.0.4 switch 192.168.0.47server 192.168.0.43printer 192.168.0.218 fax 192.168.0.205 monitor How can I use sort to 192.168.0.4 switch 192.168.0.43 printer 192.168.0.47 server Thank you Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com sort -nr file1 file2 doesnt work? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 alpha rt2860 wireless problem
On 03/11/2010 07:24 AM, fred smith wrote: Trying out F13 alpha on my eeepc 901. In previous versions, we had to go to a 3rd-party repo to get drivers for the RTA2860STA wireless chipset. But F13 seems to have at least some support built in, i.e., network manager detects the wireless hotspots nearby and offers them up for connection. however it won't actually connect. it noodles around for quite a while then reports failure. I've tried it with several different hotspots, including my own at home (to which f12 connects just fine on the same hardware) as well as two at work (all are WPA or WPA2), as well as a totally open, un-encrypted router at work, and it won't connect to any of them. Is thre some other package I need (beyond what is on the live cd)? Or is this fodder for Bugzilla? Thanks! having issues with my eeepc 1000 and its rt2860, i replaced it with a Intel wireless card and it works fine on fc12 for me. just fyi, jackc.. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: sendmail help
try localhost 25 On 03/12/2010 11:06 AM, adrian kok wrote: Hi I generate the cert and re-do the sendmail.cf from sendmail.mc the port is listening 465 but I have error telnet 127.0.0.1 465 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to 127.0.0.1. Escape character is '^]'. 454 4.3.3 TLS not available: error generating SSL handle Connection closed by foreign host. == sendmail -d0.1 -bv root | grep SASL NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF SOCKETMAP STARTTLS Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Request before write
Hi Folks, I am looking for a wireless users tool. i'd like an app that i can launch and it will pop open a window and report the 'visible' wireless networks, (name, strength, wep/not,etc). any matches out there? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Request before write
sorry to be dense, but the NM applet? you mean the network manager icon on the top bar? if so, your comment is valid as long as you dont connect. as soon as you do, the rest of the world is not reported. but yes, this is the nature of my goal. thx for your reply, jackc... On 03/15/2010 09:07 AM, Chris Tyler wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 08:57 -0700, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I am looking for a wireless users tool. i'd like an app that i can launch and it will pop open a window and report the 'visible' wireless networks, (name, strength, wep/not,etc). any matches out there? Before you go looking too far, if you're a Gnome user, clicking on the NM applet shows similar information -- the ESSID names are listed, along with a mini-bargraph of signal strength and icons for encryption and for peer-to-peer. (Other DEs probably do something similar). -Chris -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Request before write
on fc12, once connected to wirless, for example, i see nothing about any other network. if i disconnect, fine i see it all. this is why i want a NM independent scan/display! thx... On 03/15/2010 09:30 AM, Steven I Usdansky wrote: From: jack craigjcr...@extraview.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 11:13:59 AM Subject: Re: Request before write sorry to be dense, but the NM applet? you mean the network manager icon on the top bar? if so, your comment is valid as long as you dont connect. as soon as you do, the rest of the world is not reported. but yes, this is the nature of my goal. thx for your reply, jackc... Just tried it on my system. When I left-click on the nm-applet icon, I see not just my network, but also those of my neiighbors. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Request before write
ok, tim, you're right (hence my asking first). but i could swear that left click earlier gave nothing. but as you say it does what i want. thx again! :) On 03/15/2010 09:32 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 09:13 -0700, jack craig wrote: sorry to be dense, but the NM applet? you mean the network manager icon on the top bar? if so, your comment is valid as long as you dont connect. as soon as you do, the rest of the world is not reported. Something's wrong then, as it does, here. And that'd be the only way it could work and let you pick another network to connect to (by listing all that's currently available to you). Have you tried, alternately, seeing what you get when you left-click on the icon versus what you see when you right-click on it? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Request before write
i'll play with it for awhile and see how it goes. i've been having fun 'war driving' with my netbook. i guess the next app i'll want is a hotspot map! :) while there are hotspot maps, so far, for my area its very under populated. thx again, jackc... On 03/15/2010 11:31 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 10:09 -0700, jack craig wrote: but i could swear that left click earlier gave nothing. Perhaps there weren't any other networks around when you tried it. There were nearly always about three around me, but lately I've rarely seen one. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: rt2860 and Fedora 12 x64?
this wont help you , but for scope... i have fc12 on my netbook. it initially came with the chipset you have now. i swapped it out for an Intel wireless card and my wireless connects are fine out of the FC box. i found the rt2860 support very flaky over the xandros/moblin os's so that is why i swapped it out. my only gripe is i lost my 11n support from moblin... :( On 03/15/2010 02:22 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: I've installed a wireless nic that is rt2860 based. I've downloaded, compiled, and installed the latest rt2860koa driver on my Fedora 12 x64 machine. It loads (lsmod shows it), lspci shows that the RealTek nic is using the driver, but I can't get it to connect to my wireless AP. I can set the ssid but wpa_supplicant never connects (trying this at the command line with wpa_supplicant -ira0 -Dwext -dd -K -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf ). I notice that there's a wpa_supplicant running as a daemon but every time I kill it it respawns (I assume dbus is doing this but I can't figure out how to stop dbus from doing this). I don't know if that's part of the problem or not. This is *very* annoying as the d*mn card works find under Windows 7 (of course) but not under F12. What I've done is: iwconfig ra0 essid sidname wpa_supplicant -ira0 -Dwext -dd -K -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf dhclient ra0 I've tried configuring the wpa_supplicant.conf file with the psk in cleartext and hex and the same goes for the /etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat file. *Once*, just *once*, I had this actually connected but have no idea how it did it. FWIW, the kernel is the 2.6.32.9-70 version. Any help, thoughts, or prayers appreciated. Kevin -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Jobulator
the form you find it in should tell you, rpm, other ? On 03/18/2010 03:12 PM, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: Does anyone know how to install Jobulator (finds jobs for substitute teachers)? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Jobulator
quick look seems like a windows mac only app... On 03/18/2010 03:12 PM, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: Does anyone know how to install Jobulator (finds jobs for substitute teachers)? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: mcelog update
On 03/23/2010 07:21 AM, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: Since my 8 fedora 11 hosts did their March 20 update of mcelog I have been getting hourly e-mails from cron on each host with the text : /etc/cron.hourly/mcelog.cron: mcelog: warning: 18446744073709551600 bytes ignored in each record mcelog: consider an update This bug contains the exact test of the warning : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501512 I get the same warning text if I just run mcelog in a terminal. Each host has two Intel Xeon X5550 CPUs The kernel is tainted : $ yum list kmod-nvidia Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit Installed Packages kmod-nvidia.x86_64 190.53-1.fc11.4 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates $ uname -a Linux bubbles.hooperlab 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 07:06:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub to ESI Port (rev 13) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 13) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 13) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev 13) 00:10.0 PIC: Intel Corporation X58 Physical and Link Layer Registers Port 0 (rev 13) 00:10.1 PIC: Intel Corporation X58 Routing and Protocol Layer Registers Port 0 (rev 13) 00:11.0 PIC: Intel Corporation QuickPath Interconnect Physical and Link Layer Registers Port 1 (rev 13) 00:11.1 PIC: Intel Corporation QuickPath Interconnect Routing and Protocol Layer Registers Port 1 (rev 13) 00:14.0 PIC: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub System Management Registers (rev 13) 00:14.1 PIC: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub GPIO and Scratch Pad Registers (rev 13) 00:14.2 PIC: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub Control Status and RAS Registers (rev 13) 00:14.3 PIC: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub Throttle Registers (rev 13) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 90) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface Controller 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller 01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family (rev 10) 01:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08) 01:04.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port (rev 08) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9800 GTX+ (rev a2) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82576 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01) 04:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82576 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01) i just started getting tis too on fc1; brand new x64 box! i turned it off... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 12 Modules
lsmod to list and insmod to load? On 03/25/2010 11:31 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: HI I can't get my camera working in Fedora 12.. I suspect I am missing these modules.. My old computer worked and this is what is different between the two usb_storage usbcore scsi_mod Where would I find these??? TIA Marvin -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: what's wrong with my httpd?
you want to look in the logs, try /var/log/httpd/... see the error.log. On 03/26/2010 02:36 PM, Hiisi wrote: Dear Users! On fully updated F12 system I'm unable to run httpd since approximately last Sunday. Here's what I have now: [r...@imt ~]# service httpd restart Suljetaan httpd: [VIRHE ] Käynnistetään httpd: [ OK ] That means ERROR when stopping httpd. In spite the output above states it's running localhost is not available in Firefox. And here's the last line from dmesg output: httpd[19879]: segfault at 1 ip 00cb8ba0 sp bfa4c7dc error 6 in sqlite3.so[cb+9000] Could anybody give me some hint of how to cure it? My system is: uname -r 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686 rpm -q httpd httpd-2.2.14-1.fc12.i686 rpm -qa | grep sqlite sqlite-3.6.20-1.fc12.i686 qt-sqlite-4.6.2-8.fc12.i686 python-sqlite2-2.3.5-2.fc12.i686 sqlite-devel-3.6.20-1.fc12.i686 TIA -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: PS Re: What is /usr/share/locale?
what do the settings under preferences-mouse look like? also, i am curious where you found the omega distro? i loaded straight fc12 on my asus 1000... good luck, jackc... On 03/29/2010 10:33 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:05:17 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/29/2010 06:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: It might be easier to do # yum -v grouplist # yum install @tibetan-support For a lot of groups, the shorter names are far less clumsier to type. Well, you could use copy paste. Seems to me to be easier to do after doing the grouplist as the what you need is already on the screen. In fact, that is the way I did do it. CLI with mouse available is the best of both worlds! :-} Btw, a nit, hardly big enough to call a feature request: when you type in some long command, it fails on a typo, and you want to use the up- arrow to correct it, something (Gnome? gnome-terminal? Fedora??) prevents you from using the mouse to put the cursor on the typo. Is there some good reason for that?? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Slow Network
you might look at wireshark. its a very powerful tool. as a beginning, you can do a trace on your lan and then use the exert mode to zero in on big issues... just a wag, ... On 03/30/2010 12:06 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, Since two or three days, my network connection seems to have become much slower. Loading websites with Firefox now takes a mutliple of the time, and I am having sporadic no mirrors found errors with yum. I am running F12 on a Dell Latitude D820 laptop, and I am connected by wire to a router. There has been no noticeable change on two Windows machines connected to the same router. All machines connect via DCHP. What can I do to diagnose or fix the problem? Thanks! Take care Oliver -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Looking for a monitor driver
Personally, i am unclear why you put so much effort into what was already observed to be an ancient os version? are you making grade points for maintaining bitrot? :-P you knock yourself out to fix such a small issues only to find may others may lurk. more current FC version will undoubted work better. you might get a different set of problems, but at least with current sw, others are currently fighting those issues so you might get more helpful responses. you are aware the entire Linux X world has been redone in recent years? On 03/30/2010 02:04 PM, Margaret Doll wrote: On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:34 PM, mike cloaked wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Margaret Dollmargaret_d...@brown.edu wrote: We are trying to attach a Dell E2210H monitor to a Dell X260 Optiplex which is running 2.6.10-1.771_FC2. I have found the drivers for Windows but not for Fedora. Where can I access monitor drivers for Fedora? With respect FC2 is very old indeed and you would be better off installing an up to date version of Fedora which will likely have a much better chance of driving your monitor - the current drivers will be much more likely to work with your monitor directly from a more recent install of Fedora. Any reason you can't install F12? Nowhere. Monitor drivers don't exist. The .ini file for Windows isn't a driver either, just a configuration file that contains info about the sync frequencies supported by the monitor. Normally the data about monitor properties is read directly from the monitor through the DDC protocol. What problems are you having with the monitor? I got the screen to work with the system by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf changing the Horizontal rates, the size of the screen and the Modes for the screen. Unfortunately the display does not fit the monitor's size, too tall and not wide enough. I did play with the dimensions of the screen. There may not be drivers for the monitors, but the various systems have a knowledge of a list of monitors. The E2210H Dell is not listed on the F2 system. That would be a good reason for an upgrade. I will see if I can pull the system offline for an upgrade. I don't understand why the Mode entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not seem to have any relationship to the Modes shown in the System/ Display gui. I coded in 1920x1080 in xorg.conf. The Display gui shows 1024xsomething and 1280x960. Why? -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Virtualization
try a yum list | grep kvm i see only qemu-kvm.. On 04/02/2010 03:14 PM, David Bartmess wrote: On 4/2/2010 2:06 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Javier Perez wrote: do I have to reformat my HD, reinstall FC12, and then install win2k, or can I just install yum install the virtual parts for kvm and have it start as a guest the already isntalled win2k ? I'm on F12, and I've tried to install kvm via yum, but yum says no matching packages... Is this a F13 thing? sudo yum install kvm returns nothing... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Strange 'ls' listing
ls -l looks like the old format on my fc11... -rwxr-xr-x 1 jackc jackc 10413 2010-02-23 13:35 build_chnum -rwxr-xr-x 1 jackc jackc 18056 2010-04-05 14:54 build_ev -rwxr-xr-x 1 jackc jackc 4314 2010-03-15 17:47 build_hx -rwxr-xr-x 1 jackc jackc 265 2010-04-05 12:41 chk -rwxr-xr-x 1 jackc jackc 837 2010-04-05 15:35 chk_key_date On 04/07/2010 01:36 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Michael Cronenworthm...@cchtml.com wrote: Jeff Kittle wrote: Has anyone noticed that the ls command tacks on ‘.’ Character at the end of each permission string , example: It is to signify an SELinux context exists on the file. This is something new to coretutils in F11 (or F10) and forward. Is the old behaviour still available or is this now default? Previously there was a -Z option that would list it.. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Strange 'ls' listing
Busted!!! # SELINUX= can take one of these three values: SELINUX=disabled On 04/07/2010 03:04 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: grep SELINUX\= /etc/selinux/config -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Thunderbird
i am using TB 3.0.4 on FC11 and dont see these issues... On 04/09/2010 11:48 AM, Michael Miles wrote: I have been seeing some bugs with Thunderbird Email client Everytime I delete an email from say the top of my list the email from the bottom gets deleted. Not the one I want deleted. As well the email that I am trying to delete erases the header and sender but it's still there. I try to delete it and again the bottom gets deleted. The emails with no header or sender will not clear out until all the emails in list are deleted. Very annoying I have to go to trash and read the emails I missed from this weird glitch Anyone else have the same problem? Michael Miles -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: MP3
Hi Henry, You may have some codec issues with totem; I find that rhythmbox ,songbird, and mplayer work. hth, jackc... On 04/12/2010 01:40 PM, Henry Wyatt wrote: How do I play MP3's, with gnome movie player -- Henry E Wyatt Jr -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
dealing with states of drowsiness, FC12, netbook
Hi Folks, I admit to being new to mobile computers, laptops, netbooks, etc. there are more states on these systems that a desktop usually uses, including sleep and hibernate. is there an URL somewhere that will tell me how to recognize these different states and return my netbook to normal operating mode once the state of drowsiness is established? i fire up my asus netbook in the am and when i don't use it for an hr or so, it goes to sleep (or maybe hibernate) mode. the power button light is still on. but the only control i get is pressing and holding the power button until i get a shutdown. would some kind soul point me to a state managment URL? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: dealing with states of drowsiness, FC12, netbook
Ah! there Is a kind soul on this list, Thx Chris, ... On 04/15/2010 06:22 AM, Chris Rouch wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:11 PM, jack craigjcr...@extraview.com wrote: Hi Folks, I admit to being new to mobile computers, laptops, netbooks, etc. there are more states on these systems that a desktop usually uses, including sleep and hibernate. is there an URL somewhere that will tell me how to recognize these different states and return my netbook to normal operating mode once the state of drowsiness is established? i fire up my asus netbook in the am and when i don't use it for an hr or so, it goes to sleep (or maybe hibernate) mode. the power button light is still on. but the only control i get is pressing and holding the power button until i get a shutdown. would some kind soul point me to a state managment URL? This page describes the acpi power states: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface#Power_States On my hp laptop, pressing the power button once will cause it to wake up again. On my old asus laptop (running f11 i think) this didn't work properly, though it would try to resume. If you don't want it to hibernate at all, you need to change the power profile. For kde this under the advancded tab of the system settings. HTH, Chris -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: authentication problem
On 04/15/2010 11:49 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/2010 11:51 AM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I have an authentication issue with ssh that i'd like to ask for clues on solving? i have created a local host key, id_rsa.pub. i have copied that to the remote host, .ssh/authorized_keys, and checked the perms for both ~/.ssh .ssh/authorized_keys. yet i get the below, ... ssh -v -l jackc sby1.extraview.com OpenSSH_5.2p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8k-fips 25 Mar 2009 ... publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password ! ... No credentials cache found ... No credentials cache found ... debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: /home/jackc/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 277 Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. debug1: Next authentication method: password ja...@sby1.extraview.com's password: my naive reading of the above looks like it fulfilled one authentication method, but then goes on to ask for another, in this case, a password. my wag is that there is an /etc/pam.d config that is wrong, but this isn't my strong suite and i don't want to guess/mess around. also, this phrase, ... debug1: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information No credentials cache found I wouldn't worry about GSS failure. You haven't set it up. - From URL: http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/53/userauth-gssapi.html it explains the idea behind GSS. I tend to think of GSS as Kerberos. where do i find the minor code its referring to? any ssh guru's out there to provide a clue? Not sure. When it says, Agent admitted failure to sign using the key., is it referring to ssh-agent? There is a program, ssh-add, which talks to ssh-agent. I haven't used ssh-add or ssh-agent in a long time. Before I take us down this path which might be a wild good chase, I better ask are you using these? Whenever I have publickey authentication problems, it usually is file and directory permissions. You indicated you checked ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys both the client server have the 700 for .ssh and 600 for all .ssh/* note also that i have the same access to different hosts in our domain. my client is fc11, but the remote hosts are centos 4 5. As a test, could you make certain your $HOME directories, on both the local and remote machine, are not writable by anyone, but owner? Could you make sure ~/.ssh on both machines is only read/write by owner? Could you make sure the files in ~/.ssh, such as authorized_keys, config, id_rsa, known_hosts, are only read/write by owner? For me, anything in ~/.ssh should only be read/write by owner. Call me paranoid but only owner should have access to these files. The one kicker, I'm asking you to do, is make sure both $HOME directories are, at most, readable, by others, and not writable. If you want someone to put files in your $HOME directory area, can you set up $HOME/droparea and give them read/write access to $HOME/droparea? in this case i am just building a backup system for my client host to back up to he server. i have accts on both so i got ja...@client writing to ja...@server Thx for you time, suggestions beyond perms? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvHX68ACgkQyc8Kn0p/AZSq7gCfemQ7xhl7GwPnlC1Hcrj+XlI0 dREAn16BFmZbHBeQ8ZvcX2Hp+iCVoBy3 =l5hs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: authentication problem
On 04/15/2010 03:40 PM, Jeff Kittle wrote: MS Putty just goes some where, looks like it's waiting on something. I've run the sshd in debug on the Fedora side and it appears to be waiting on a response from the client side. -Original Message- my experience with XP is failures during mass ftp blasts, 5-6000 files, m$ starts dropping some xfers. simple solution, ditch the m$ client for linux! :-P -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: authentication problem
On 04/15/2010 11:49 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/2010 11:51 AM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I have an authentication issue with ssh that i'd like to ask for clues on solving? i have created a local host key, id_rsa.pub. i have copied that to the remote host, .ssh/authorized_keys, and checked the perms for both ~/.ssh .ssh/authorized_keys. yet i get the below, ... ssh -v -l jackc sby1.extraview.com OpenSSH_5.2p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8k-fips 25 Mar 2009 ... publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password ! ... No credentials cache found ... No credentials cache found ... debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: /home/jackc/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 277 Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. debug1: Next authentication method: password ja...@sby1.extraview.com's password: my naive reading of the above looks like it fulfilled one authentication method, but then goes on to ask for another, in this case, a password. my wag is that there is an /etc/pam.d config that is wrong, but this isn't my strong suite and i don't want to guess/mess around. also, this phrase, ... debug1: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information No credentials cache found I wouldn't worry about GSS failure. You haven't set it up. - From URL: http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/53/userauth-gssapi.html it explains the idea behind GSS. I tend to think of GSS as Kerberos. where do i find the minor code its referring to? any ssh guru's out there to provide a clue? Not sure. When it says, Agent admitted failure to sign using the key., is it referring to ssh-agent? There is a program, ssh-add, which talks to ssh-agent. I haven't used ssh-add or ssh-agent in a long time. Before I take us down this path which might be a wild good chase, I better ask are you using these? Whenever I have publickey authentication problems, it usually is file and directory permissions. You indicated you checked ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys As a test, could you make certain your $HOME directories, on both the local and remote machine, are not writable by anyone, but owner? Could you make sure ~/.ssh on both machines is only read/write by owner? Could you make sure the files in ~/.ssh, such as authorized_keys, config, id_rsa, known_hosts, are only read/write by owner? For me, anything in ~/.ssh should only be read/write by owner. Call me paranoid but only owner should have access to these files. The one kicker, I'm asking you to do, is make sure both $HOME directories are, at most, readable, by others, and not writable. If you want someone to put files in your $HOME directory area, can you set up $HOME/droparea and give them read/write access to $HOME/droparea? the plot thickens, i switch to the dsa (from rsa key) and my sessions now work fine. But!!! when i put the sme command line in a cron job, i am back to passwd prompting!!! i guess my only choice is a deep dive into ssh protocols? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-12 and Skype -
i had skype installed and working well on my FC11. my connection is dsl, but still the lag wasnt too bad. the version is skype-2.1.0.81-fc10.i586 guess i should try the upgraded version... On 04/16/2010 11:13 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: . Is anyone able to offer some help with Skype. I installed their Linux RPM version and yum'd the dependencies. It works well between Skype users, at least the voice is fine and I can see the other persons video although that's not a feature I would use. But although it will connect to the plain old telephone system, I subscribed to that feature, it doesn't provide a usable connection. All I have to test with is my cell phone and only hear weak and broken audio, a call to my brother's answering machine gets dropped before I can say more than a few words leading me to believe it's not hearing me? To add to the uncertainty my satellite ISP contributes a couple of seconds of latency, there is the delay between here and the satellite and from there to the earth station plus what ever other system delays occur and of course I don't know what effect that might have beyond the obvious human reaction to the delayed response. Any thoughts on the subject appreciated. Bob -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F-12 and Skype -
quick heads up here, i swapped versions a bit too starting out. i got snarled by the .skype dir remaining that yum didnt remove. installing a second Skype version got real bizarre results. i finally moved .skype .skype- and reinstalled the cited version, then i got happiness. YMMV, good luck, jackc... On 04/16/2010 01:20 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 16/04/10 14:34, Paolo Galtieri wrote: On 04/16/2010 11:18 AM, jack craig wrote: i had skype installed and working well on my FC11. my connection is dsl, but still the lag wasnt too bad. the version is skype-2.1.0.81-fc10.i586 guess i should try the upgraded version... skype-2.1.0.81-fc10.i586 is the most up to date version. There is no version specific to F12. I've been using skype on Linux for a while and I've observed that skype- skype calls work just fine even with video. On the other hand skype- land line calls are inconsistent. At times I've experienced delays, noise and drop outs, other times it works fine. Paolo . skype-2.1.0.81-fc10.i586.rpm was the version I found on their web page. It was designated for Fedora and I took it. I can look for the later version but suspect it will not be much different? I need to try it though. I have not done any extensive trials but what little I have done has produced results similar to yours or worse. When I speak to my brother I will find out if there was any voice message on their machine ... AS you said Skype to Skype worked well but I don't know only one person using it despite there being a million users! I have no practical need for Skype but wanted to try it. I am impressed with VOIP, Skype and Echolink both provide good voice communications computer to computer. Thanks for your observations. Bob -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: authentication problem(solved)
I kept digging deeper on this problem and this am found the solution (or at least one solution, there may be others). it amounted to moving the keys in my .ssh to *.bak names, logging out, logging back in, logging into the remote server, exiting, moving the keys back to their proper names and loging into remote again, this time with no pwd reqd!!! gotta love google and james wagner (jimmyg.org). But dont bother trying to email him, his email screening is broke. fyi, jackc... On 04/15/2010 11:49 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/2010 11:51 AM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I have an authentication issue with ssh that i'd like to ask for clues on solving? i have created a local host key, id_rsa.pub. i have copied that to the remote host, .ssh/authorized_keys, and checked the perms for both ~/.ssh .ssh/authorized_keys. yet i get the below, ... ssh -v -l jackc sby1.extraview.com OpenSSH_5.2p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8k-fips 25 Mar 2009 ... publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password ! ... No credentials cache found ... No credentials cache found ... debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: /home/jackc/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 277 Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. debug1: Next authentication method: password ja...@sby1.extraview.com's password: my naive reading of the above looks like it fulfilled one authentication method, but then goes on to ask for another, in this case, a password. my wag is that there is an /etc/pam.d config that is wrong, but this isn't my strong suite and i don't want to guess/mess around. also, this phrase, ... debug1: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information No credentials cache found I wouldn't worry about GSS failure. You haven't set it up. - From URL: http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/53/userauth-gssapi.html it explains the idea behind GSS. I tend to think of GSS as Kerberos. where do i find the minor code its referring to? any ssh guru's out there to provide a clue? Not sure. When it says, Agent admitted failure to sign using the key., is it referring to ssh-agent? There is a program, ssh-add, which talks to ssh-agent. I haven't used ssh-add or ssh-agent in a long time. Before I take us down this path which might be a wild good chase, I better ask are you using these? Whenever I have publickey authentication problems, it usually is file and directory permissions. You indicated you checked ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys As a test, could you make certain your $HOME directories, on both the local and remote machine, are not writable by anyone, but owner? Could you make sure ~/.ssh on both machines is only read/write by owner? Could you make sure the files in ~/.ssh, such as authorized_keys, config, id_rsa, known_hosts, are only read/write by owner? For me, anything in ~/.ssh should only be read/write by owner. Call me paranoid but only owner should have access to these files. The one kicker, I'm asking you to do, is make sure both $HOME directories are, at most, readable, by others, and not writable. If you want someone to put files in your $HOME directory area, can you set up $HOME/droparea and give them read/write access to $HOME/droparea? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvHX68ACgkQyc8Kn0p/AZSq7gCfemQ7xhl7GwPnlC1Hcrj+XlI0 dREAn16BFmZbHBeQ8ZvcX2Hp+iCVoBy3 =l5hs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GW (LAN1, LAN2, ADSL) config
have you reviewed your routing tables? $ netstat -rn tells you what? On 04/20/2010 06:31 AM, j.halifax . wrote: Hi All, please help me kindly to reconfig my default GW (Fedora 12). The GW has 3 active Ethernet cards: eth0 - connected to Internet ADSL router (incl. VPN, pptpd) eth1 - not used eth2 - LAN1 eth3 - LAN2. I had everything working fine but due to some problems I lost the configuration of the GW and I can't get it working again. (1) The Internet access (LAN1 - GW - Internet) is working fine. (2) The access of (Internet - GW - LAN1 / LAN2) is ok incl. VPN (3) I can not access LAN2 neither from LAN1 nor from GW box Traceroute shows that for (3) packets don't go to eth3 (LAN2) as they should, but they fall down to eth0 (default gw). Can you please advise me what I need to set-up (iptables) in the GW? Thank you so much for your kind help. Regards, jh -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I need help to get my parallel port working.
You have tried a configuration with http://localhost:631/ ??? On 04/17/2010 05:30 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Hey All, I can not get my parallel port to connect to my printer. The printer was working with F8. Then I upgraded to F10. The printer has not worked since. Now I have F12 32 bit installed. I've tried everything I can think of including messing with the CMOS settings from Yes PNP OS to No PNP OS. When I first started trying to diagnose this problem I used the System/Administration tools to debug the printer problems. Several problems, such as incorrect file ownership, were found and corrected. Now I get no further issues when I print but I also get nothing coming from the printer. The printing queue says that the job is Processing but askes, Is the printer connected? Remember, this is the same printer, and same cable that was working with F8. Only the software has been changed to confuse the innocent. I've uninstalled the printer driver and cups, rebooted the machine, reinstalled cups. Downloaded a current copy of the Linux driver from the printer manufacturer and installed the driver. No joy. :-( I've spent a couple of days poking around the internet looking for help with this issue. I've found a lot of people having problems getting their parallel printers working with F12 that had worked with previous versions of Fedora but none of those posts have helped. Here is the results of the poking around that I've done. lspci -v 01:08.0 Parallel controller: NetMos Technology PCI 9865 Multi-I/O Controller (prog-if 03 [IEEE1284]) Subsystem: Device a000:2000 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 I/O ports at bc00 [size=8] I/O ports at b480 [size=8] Memory at f8efe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Memory at f8efd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 modprobe -c alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 dma=3 lsmod | grep parport parport_pc 17509 1 parport27256 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc The ball's in your court now Y'all. Does anyone have any ideas how I can further diagnose the problem and get the printer singing again? Mark -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Terminal type?? OT, thx!
Hey Cameron, Thx for a great strace chant! while my use is infrequent, this capture to a file is Very sweet! Thx, jackc... On 04/19/2010 08:45 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: strace -e trace=file clear 2str.out -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Lexmark printer
On 04/20/2010 08:47 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote: My wife just got a new Lexmark X2670 all-in-one printer with her new laptop that we want to share. I can't find any drivers for it for F11. Does anyone else have this printer and if so have you found a way to make it work? Thanks, Steve its not common to need more device specific drivers, ... have you tried cups explore/configure via http://localhost:631 ?? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT] Help with Perl Script
google is perl's best friend, google, 'perl sort arrays' ... good luck, jackc... On 04/21/2010 01:21 AM, Dan Track wrote: Hi, I appreciate that this is off-topic and wholly understand if I don't get an answer, although one would really appreciate it if I do get an answer :) Basically to improve my perl scripting, I've given myself a challenge where I would like to order the users in the passwd file by uid, I could do this in another language but I'm focused on improving my perl scripting. The script I've written so far is below, I've managed to figure out hashes and have read in the file and created a hash of hashes. It's after this that I'm stuck, I'm struggling to order the hash of hashes by uid and then print the ordered list out? Can someone please help me to finish this off? I'm trying to avoid using perl modules as I want to improve my scripting ability. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; my ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ); my $k; my $v; my $key; my $ip; my $value; my @sorted=(); my @uid=(); my %HoH = (); my $file='/etc/passwd'; open( PASSWD, $file ) or die Can't open $file : $!; while(PASSWD ) { ( $login, $p, $uid, $gid, $gecos, $dir, $s ) = split( ':' ); $HoH{ $login }{ 'login' } = $login; $HoH{ $login }{ 'p' } = $p; $HoH{ $login }{ 'uid' } = $uid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gid' } = $gid; $HoH{ $login }{ 'gecos' } = $gecos; $HoH{ $login }{ 'dir' } = $dir; $HoH{ $login }{ 's' } = $s; #print $login\n; } close PASSWD; #while (($k,$v) = each %HoH) { # print While Loop: $k\n; #} #foreach $ip (keys %HoH) { # print First For: $ip\n; #while (($key, $value) = each %{ $HoH{$ip} } ) { #print $key = $value \n; #} # print \n; #} #while ( ($k, $v) = each %HoH ) { #print $k: \n; #while ( ($key, $value) = each %$v ) { #print $key=$value ; #} #print \n; #} #for $k ( sort keys %HoH ) { #print $k: ; #for $v ( sort keys %{ $HoH{$k} } ) { # print $v=$HoH{$k}{$v} ; #} #print \n; #} #...@sorted = sort { $HoH{$a} cmp $HoH{$b} } keys %HoH; #print @sorted\n; #foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH{$a}-{uid} cmp $HoH{$b}-{uid} } keys %HoH) foreach my $sorted ( sort { $HoH-{$a}{uid} cmp $HoH-{$b}{uid} } keys %HoH) { print STDOUT $HoH{$sorted}\n } Thank in advance for any help. Dan -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
WTH is up with this network config?
When I learned about ip address, the network host portions of the IP and the netmask to differentiate the host network numbers. I learned a class A addr used a mask of 10.255.255.255. My current domain pre-existed my arrival. While my FC11 works fine, I was looking at this network config and found the below!!! eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:18:FE:75:91 inet addr:10.0.0.100 Bcast:11.255.255.255 Mask:254.0.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::226:18ff:fefe:7591/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:8291136 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8464483 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:8084873362 (7.5 GiB) TX bytes:8107599565 (7.5 GiB) Interrupt:35 cat ./devices/ifcfg-eth0 # Networking Interface DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static DNS1=10.0.0.199 GATEWAY=10.0.0.129 HWADDR=00:26:18:FE:75:91 IPADDR=10.0.0.100 NETMASK=10.0.0.255 ONBOOT=yes My question, if the ifcfg-eth0 has the right IP Mask, why does the ifconfig display not agree? More, why does it work as is ???!!! tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: WTH is up with this network config?
i get ... sh -x /sbin/ifup eth0 + unset WINDOW + . /etc/init.d/functions ++ TEXTDOMAIN=initscripts ++ umask 022 ++ PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin ++ export PATH ++ '[' -z '' ']' ++ COLUMNS=80 ++ '[' -z '' ']' +++ /sbin/consoletype ++ CONSOLETYPE=pty ++ '[' -f /etc/sysconfig/i18n -a -z '' -a -z '' ']' ++ . /etc/profile.d/lang.sh ++ unset LANGSH_SOURCED ++ '[' -z '' ']' ++ '[' -f /etc/sysconfig/init ']' ++ . /etc/sysconfig/init +++ BOOTUP=color +++ RES_COL=60 +++ MOVE_TO_COL='echo -en \033[60G' +++ SETCOLOR_SUCCESS='echo -en \033[0;32m' +++ SETCOLOR_FAILURE='echo -en \033[0;31m' +++ SETCOLOR_WARNING='echo -en \033[0;33m' +++ SETCOLOR_NORMAL='echo -en \033[0;39m' +++ LOGLEVEL=3 +++ PROMPT=yes +++ AUTOSWAP=no ++ '[' pty = serial ']' ++ __sed_discard_ignored_files='/\(~\|\.bak\|\.orig\|\.rpmnew\|\.rpmorig\|\.rpmsave\)$/d' + cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts + . ./network-functions ++ PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin ++ export PATH ++ '[' -z '/\(~\|\.bak\|\.orig\|\.rpmnew\|\.rpmorig\|\.rpmsave\)$/d' ']' + '[' -f ../network ']' + . ../network ++ NETWORKING=yes ++ HOSTNAME=bs.extraview.com ++ GATEWAY=10.0.0.129 + CONFIG=eth0 + '[' -z eth0 ']' + need_config eth0 + local nconfig + CONFIG=ifcfg-eth0 + '[' -f ifcfg-eth0 ']' + return + '[' -f ifcfg-eth0 ']' + '[' 0 '!=' 0 ']' + source_config + CONFIG=ifcfg-eth0 + DEVNAME=eth0 + . /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 ++ DEVICE=eth0 ++ BOOTPROTO=static ++ DNS1=10.0.0.199 ++ GATEWAY=10.0.0.129 ++ HWADDR=00:26:18:FE:75:91 ++ IPADDR=10.0.0.100 ++ NETMASK=10.0.0.255 ++ ONBOOT=yes + '[' -r keys-eth0 ']' + case $TYPE in + '[' -z '' ']' ++ echo eth0 ++ sed 's/[0-9]*$//' + DEVICETYPE=eth + '[' -z '' -a -n '' ']' + '[' -z '' ']' + REALDEVICE=eth0 + '[' eth0 '!=' eth0 ']' + ISALIAS=no + '[' -n 00:26:18:FE:75:91 ']' ++ echo 00:26:18:FE:75:91 ++ awk '{ print toupper($0) }' + HWADDR=00:26:18:FE:75:91 + '[' -n '' ']' + '[' foo = fooboot ']' + '[' -n '' ']' + '[' -n '' -a '' = Bridge ']' + '[' -x /sbin/vconfig -a '' = yes -a no = no ']' + '[' '' = yes ']' + '[' static = bootp -o static = dhcp ']' + '[' -x /sbin/ifup-pre-local ']' + OTHERSCRIPT=/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth + '[' '!' -x /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth ']' + exec /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth ifcfg-eth0 RTNETLINK answers: Cannot allocate memory Failed to bring up eth0. Drat! but after a /service network restart/ i have the same result... Very weird! On 04/29/2010 12:10 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: ifdown eth0 -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: logwatch schedule control
Thx Phil, I too have that file, but! I don't see any time oriented config info there. I am assuming its whatever drives /etc/cron.daily, but where??? Thx for your time to reply! On 05/12/2010 01:47 PM, Phil Savoie wrote: On 12/05/2010 15:54, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, On my FC11, logwatch has suddenly begun arriving at 10:48 am. i prefer it runs over night. I am not finding its crontab control, any clues out there ? I see /etc/cron.daily, .hourly, .weekly, but i see no entries fro the logwatch script. thx,jackc... Hi Jack, On my centos5.4 box my config file is here: /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf HTH Phil -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: logwatch schedule control
that says what to run, but not when to run it. I am looking for the time control option. Thx! On 05/12/2010 02:56 PM, Phil Savoie wrote: On 12/05/2010 17:33, jack craig wrote: Thx Phil, I too have that file, but! I don't see any time oriented config info there. I am assuming its whatever drives /etc/cron.daily, but where??? Thx for your time to reply! Hi Jack, I have in /etc/cron.daily directory a symlink: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Aug 30 2009 0logwatch - /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/logwatch.pl Does this help? Phil -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Linux for T1 bonding ???
Hi Folks, This is probably not the best forum for this query, but I am hoping you might direct me... We have a T1 that is running about max'd out. We are thinking to buy a comcast connection and use a Linux based T1 bonding to load balance over the 2 pipes. Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... Thx, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
I'll check it out, Thx Mike! On 05/25/2010 10:27 AM, Mike Guilmot wrote: On 05/25/2010 06:31 PM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, This is probably not the best forum for this query, but I am hoping you might direct me... We have a T1 that is running about max'd out. We are thinking to buy a comcast connection and use a Linux based T1 bonding to load balance over the 2 pipes. Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... Thx, jackc... Vyatta is nice. :-) -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On 05/25/2010 11:39 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:31:35 -0700, jack craigjcr...@extraview.com wrote: Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... When I was looking at getting a T1, bonded T1s sold by the provider were fairly common. Unless you are looking at doing something cheaper, that may be your best bet. If you are using two different providers, I don't think you can atcually do what is typically referred to as bonding. Normally that is handled with routing. I've hit a couple bumps in this investigation. the boss first said check into comcast cable (static ip's available), but then he was assuming it was a t1 serve that could be bonded with our current t1. so far, t1 cable modem are separate, discreet options. i found mushroom networks and they offer a bonding appliance that says its smart about load balancing, e.g. using all bonded lines. mark pointed out vyatta, that looks interesting too. The cable connection rates are real low compared to our t1, i am not thinking we ought to get the cable connection and if its as fast as advertised, ditch the t1 we have now. interesting quest! :) thx for your comments, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT:smartphone
On 05/25/2010 12:18 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 21:40 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote: Linuxguy123 kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 25. toukokuuta 2010): I came to the same conclusion but haven't purchased the N900 due to the lack of an update to Maemo 5 and Meego not shipping in any meaningful way yet. Maemo 5 version 1.2 will be available tomorrow (May 26th). There won't be any official upgrade to Meego on N900. http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/05/25/nokia-n900-software-update-release-1-2/ That is exactly the reason I held off from buying one. I'll wait for the N950 or whatever they call it, running Meego before I buy anything. Maemo is a dead platform. It took them forever to release this update and I doubt there will be another one. I want something like Fedora for mobile devices. I'm hoping thats Meego. I'd say don't hold your breath! I had high hopes for the moblin (meego now), but i was dismayed to see the Intel effort spin spin, then provide no useful product! what they did provide wasnt nearly good enough. i was using a netbook (even more screen real estate than a smart phone) {i had been using the Sidekick, from Danger, but wanted more useful screen space}, and it was reduced to less than a 1/3 of total screen in useful space. When moblin died, i bailed and have been using fc12 on my netbook since. I am Much happier. My netbook, on a recent holiday, was the perfect travel companion... My only glitch was wifi reception in a BB that was made of Really solid wood( i had to work near the router). A Real Nice place, http://www.hilo-hawaii.com/ Intel has certainly fallen from grace in my book... just my $.0002, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On 05/25/2010 02:40 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: interesting quest! :) My experience with cable has been that it is highly variable in bandwidth. In upstate NY you can get DSL up to 7Mbit and FIOS at 15Mbit and you get the speed you pay for. Depending on your usage you might even have the T1 for incoming connections to your servers and use a DHCP connection on another ISP like cable for things which don't need static IP on outbound connections, like browsing, VPN depending on your setup, etc, etc. Having done bonded lines back when I became aware that total bandwidth goes up but the speed doesn't, so ping and anything depending on response time won't change. And you want to advertise larger TCP window sizes so that you will back up some packets and actually use the bonding. Some bonding methods don't put packets for a given connection on the other wire until they have a few packets waiting. Great feed back to hear /before/ we make a decision! Thx!!! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount
On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes to get this to automount when plugged in? dmesg shows the following: usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0bc2, idProduct=3300 usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 1-3: Product: Desktop usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Seagate usb 1-3: SerialNumber: 2GHL7D7A usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) lsusb -v shows the following: I know this sounds wacky, but trying putting a file system label on your seagate fs? I had this problem and doing a e2label made the automount work. YMMV, good luck, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount
On 05/27/2010 11:03 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: On 05/27/2010 10:39 AM, jack craig wrote: On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes to get this to automount when plugged in? dmesg shows the following: usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0bc2, idProduct=3300 usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 1-3: Product: Desktop usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Seagate usb 1-3: SerialNumber: 2GHL7D7A usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) lsusb -v shows the following: I know this sounds wacky, but trying putting a file system label on your seagate fs? I had this problem and doing a e2label made the automount work. YMMV, good luck, jackc... e2label will only work if you put a Linux fs (ext2, ext3, ..) on the drive. Since most external drives already have NTFS on them you will need to use something else to label the drive. However, the automount should work regardless of a label. In the case of NTFS you may need to install the ntfs-3g package to get automount to work. Paolo Good point; no NTFS here, strictly Linux... ;-) -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 install problem (/dev/fd0 error)
On 05/28/2010 11:42 AM, d...@chatham.org wrote: I cannot get FC13 to install. I get a repeating /dev/fd0 error, which sorta makes sense since the machine doesn't have a floppy. However, it never gets past the error. Has anyone seen this one? Help!!! :) Dale In your bios setup, do you have an option to disable the floppy? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
MultiMedia suggestions?
Hi FC folks, I have a dvd video that plays fine in my home dvd player, but not via totem. I have, ... totem-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-gstreamer-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-mozplugin-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-nautilus-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-pl-parser-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-3.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-python-0.10.16-1.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.4.9-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-gstreamer-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 installed. I am able to copy the dvd to an iso file, but not play it locally. I get, ... How might i learn what is missing? Thx, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: MultiMedia suggestions?
i get a popup about missing plugin, dvd source. vlc seems to be working though... On 06/01/2010 12:00 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 01/06/10 19:47, jack craig wrote: Hi FC folks, I have a dvd video that plays fine in my home dvd player, but not via totem. --snip-- I am able to copy the dvd to an iso file, but not play it locally. I get, ... missing DVD source How might i learn what is missing? Thx, jackc... When you click search on the popup window what happens? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: MultiMedia suggestions?
thx craig! it is a dvd of us swimming with manta rays at night, not store bought. and yeah, i know my install is about over the hill... :) On 06/01/2010 12:48 PM, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 11:47 -0700, jack craig wrote: Hi FC folks, I have a dvd video that plays fine in my home dvd player, but not via totem. I have, ... totem-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-gstreamer-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-mozplugin-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-nautilus-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-pl-parser-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-3.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-python-0.10.16-1.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.4.9-1.fc11.x86_64 totem-gstreamer-2.26.5-1.fc11.x86_64 installed. I am able to copy the dvd to an iso file, but not play it locally. I get, ... missing DVD source How might i learn what is missing? Thx, jackc... if that is a store bought dvd, then you probably need libdvdcss package - the legality of which, at least in the US is probably questionable but if I recall correctly, that package is available from livna. F11 is pretty much dead btw Craig -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: MultiMedia suggestions?
On 06/01/2010 01:10 PM, Michael Miles wrote: Even though I own the original. When I buy a game it's a given that the game will be placed on a HD and yet the very same copyright laws are broken as soon as I backup the cd or dvd game on HD What a confusing situation. I totally agree! I have a second question that it sounds like you have an answer for ... how do you rip dvd's (eg, what application do you use) ? I used brasero to make an iso image, but vlc cant play it, so i doubt its validity. i use grip for mp3, what does the best job for dvd's ? thx, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen res problem
Of course he is a Superior Being. Don't you realize this he is... Dave Ocame, WS1ETI Awards Chair The SETILeague, Inc Stony Creek Observatory FN31og -72.834 longitude 41.272 latitude Member: The SETILeague, Inc. and, The Society for Amateur Radio Astronomy (SARA) and, The Planetary Society I doubt his porcupine personality is suited for more than exploring the stars. Gawd forbid he actually encounters any real intelligence out there... they keep those observatories way out in the sticks for more than one reason! :-D -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fwd: Fedora Weekly News 228
How many of you are subscribed to announce-list? The web redesign was in FWN multiple times and if FWN was sent to announce-list I really don't get all the harping about how people didn't know about it... ~m I knew of it, but had not subscribed. seeing it has this content, i will subscribe to it now. thx for illuminating the newsletter's availability. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Network Manager, WPA, available to all users
My files seem configured appropriately. Unfortunately, the system does not come up on the network. And, when I check Available to all users in nm-applet, the connection is dropped and disappears from the wireless list. FWIW, it works fine on my netbook. On a recent trip, it kept booting up and trying to connect to the wifi at the hotel i just left. but once i reset to the current wifi, it rebooted automatically, correctly. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Extract file from tar home/
i'd say no, the zip file would need to be extracted en-total, then unzipped. lets see if some clever soul can prove me wrong? :) On 06/07/2010 02:48 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have /home/bobg/ tar'd to bobg.tar.gz. Can I extract individual files or directories without unzipping the entire 17 gigs? Bob -- -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On 06/10/2010 02:55 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:20 -0700, jack craig wrote: On 06/10/2010 01:53 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under Linux ? I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem for SSDs ? Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? Thanks my asus netbook has a 40GB ssd and works fine under fc12. i updated my wifi card to intel, i wonder if i can find/install this Big SSD?! What does your wifi card have to do with a big SSD ? only that i did a swap of my wifi card in the netbook and would hope to be able to do the same to get a larger storage for the netbook. i had not heard of ssd's that large before. -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?
On 06/10/2010 01:53 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm thinking of getting an Intel 160 GB SSD. How would it work under Linux ? I'm using ext4 for that drive right now. Is there a better filesystem for SSDs ? Is there anything that I should be aware of as far as switching ? Thanks my asus netbook has a 40GB ssd and works fine under fc12. i updated my wifi card to intel, i wonder if i can find/install this Big SSD?! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Skype
On 06/10/2010 12:08 PM, jarmo wrote: 2. That's the version, what does not work for me... It didn't work in fc12 either. I have two cards, intel-hda and ens-1370 and with pulseaudio it is impossiple to set? skype to use one and then use another card just for listening music. This pulse* has made my audio use quite limited... So 2.1.47 worked fine with two cards... Jarmo one thing that bit me was previous installs. a ~/.skype directory didnt get cleaned upon removal. you might try, ... 1. remove skype 2. cd ~ (your home dir) 3. mv .skype .skype.old 4. reinstall skype and retest... YMMV, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Multimedia video on netbook
Hi Folks, I just loaded VLC on my netbook and was able to view my recent manta ray night diving video. However, given its normal power saving procedure, it dims the screen shortly after the video starts. Is there any prevailing wisdom how to handle this feature during a video display? I am assuming watching movies has the same issue... tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Multimedia video on netbook
On 06/22/2010 12:43 PM, JD wrote: On 06/22/2010 12:24 PM, jack craig was caught red-handed while writing:: Hi Folks, I just loaded VLC on my netbook and was able to view my recent manta ray night diving video. However, given its normal power saving procedure, it dims the screen shortly after the video starts. Is there any prevailing wisdom how to handle this feature during a video display? I am assuming watching movies has the same issue... tia, jackc... System - Preferences - Screensaver and take it from there. Note: You might have 2 screensaver entries in the drop down menu. On my F13, the first screensaver menu entry runs the xscreensaver-demo which I am unable to kill, even via sudo, even with signal 9. I hope some fedoral developer sees this :) So, select the second screensaver entry and that will bring up a gui for you to set what to do when idle. You can uncheck the box and it will not blank the screen. Great! Thx! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: hi. ^
On 06/24/2010 10:43 AM, Tom Weston wrote: DIVHello,BROne of my friends bought an iphone from a website:nbsp;A href=http://www.myfure.com;www.myfure.com/ABRHe has got the phone, its quality is very good. And the website is promoting their products these days, so they have very good price and big discount now. This website also sells tv,motor,laptop and so on. The promotion will keep 30 days . if you need, please have a look at the website. I am sure you will get much surprise.BRNever forget to share good things with us!BRGreetings!/DIV f Boo Hiss... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?
On 06/25/2010 03:56 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 06/25/2010 02:57 PM, jack craig wrote: On 06/25/2010 02:46 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I thought it was sufficient to look into the headers of the offending email spammmers and add these respective IP address and/or host names to the /etc/mail/access file, but I am beginning to suspect that these headers could be easily spoofed with bogus entries, right? I am really getting tired of adding in entries into the access file, and writing email filters (in thunderbird) for patterns dumping spammers into the trash - and yet - I am still forced to review the trash for entries that should not have been trashed. Seems like a real chore and a losing proposition... What do admins of sendmail use, besides spamassasin? Thanks! Dan one approach is to use the black hole filters, confgure them for sendmail and that will catch a lot of bad addresses.. http://tldp.org/LDP/nag2/x15291.html (see 1.8.8.4.1. The Real-time Blackhole List) hth, ... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com Hmm... I reviewed this, added the FEATURE entry but unfortunately it is missing the corresponding mc file: m4:sendmail.mc:198: cannot open `/usr/share/sendmail-cf/feature/rbl.m4': No such file or directory Where can I get this mc file, do you know? try 'yum install sendmail-cf' ??? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?
On 06/25/2010 04:20 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 06/25/2010 04:11 PM, jack craig wrote: On 06/25/2010 03:56 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 06/25/2010 02:57 PM, jack craig wrote: On 06/25/2010 02:46 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I thought it was sufficient to look into the headers of the offending email spammmers and add these respective IP address and/or host names to the /etc/mail/access file, but I am beginning to suspect that these headers could be easily spoofed with bogus entries, right? I am really getting tired of adding in entries into the access file, and writing email filters (in thunderbird) for patterns dumping spammers into the trash - and yet - I am still forced to review the trash for entries that should not have been trashed. Seems like a real chore and a losing proposition... What do admins of sendmail use, besides spamassasin? Thanks! Dan one approach is to use the black hole filters, confgure them for sendmail and that will catch a lot of bad addresses.. http://tldp.org/LDP/nag2/x15291.html (see 1.8.8.4.1. The Real-time Blackhole List) hth, ... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com Hmm... I reviewed this, added the FEATURE entry but unfortunately it is missing the corresponding mc file: m4:sendmail.mc:198: cannot open `/usr/share/sendmail-cf/feature/rbl.m4': No such file or directory Where can I get this mc file, do you know? try 'yum install sendmail-cf' ??? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com Yeah, I did that and it does not contain that file. For fun, I tried yum install rbl.m4, no dice. I have 8.14.x so that's fairly new for F9... Guess I will have to scan the Internet for that file... you might try... http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: orbit
On 06/29/2010 12:13 PM, dale kain wrote: ORBit running and slowing things down and yet, rpm -qi ORBit package ORBit is not installed waddup with this? rpm -qa | grep -i orbit ??? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Getting on Internet with 13
On 06/29/2010 04:50 PM, John Clark wrote: I can't seem to get my browser/email to connect to Internet. In terminal I can ping www.google.com to my hearts content but I can't connect to it with Firefox. I have no hair to pull out and I don't want to pull scalp. BTW, Ubuntu gets on just fine, out of the box, but I can't stand Debian Linux. when you installed, did you enable firewall? if so, check there to start... can you $ telnet www.google.com 80 if you get a connect, outbound is ok... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI
On 07/08/2010 10:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I have a DVD structure (VIDEO_TS etc. etc.) on my hard disk and would like to convert the main feature to an AVI file, i.e. basically what rippers do but without the physical DVD. I know I can use ffmpeg or transcode to convert individual VOB files, but this seems error prone (e.g. how do I know I got all of the main feature?). Does anyone have a script for this sort of thing? Unfortunately K3B is no good as it insists on there being a physical DVD to rip from. poc you might look at mencoder, it takes .mov, it might take the dvd format too. eg, ... mencoder mvi_0120.mov -o mvi_0120.avi -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI
On 07/08/2010 11:16 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 11:02 -0700, jack craig wrote: On 07/08/2010 10:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I have a DVD structure (VIDEO_TS etc. etc.) on my hard disk and would like to convert the main feature to an AVI file, i.e. basically what rippers do but without the physical DVD. I know I can use ffmpeg or transcode to convert individual VOB files, but this seems error prone (e.g. how do I know I got all of the main feature?). Does anyone have a script for this sort of thing? Unfortunately K3B is no good as it insists on there being a physical DVD to rip from. poc you might look at mencoder, it takes .mov, it might take the dvd format too. Good idea. The manpage says it can read DVD structures, VOB files etc. Guess I'll have to invest some time in understanding the gazillion options. poc I recently ripped a DVD we got from a manta ray night dive event and found .vob files. I was surprised that vlc played the .vob out of the box! Its great to see multimedia blossoming in Linux land. Also, i got a blurb about a new Fluenda DVD play program for Linux, just fyi... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: boot messages : say it ain't so
On 07/09/2010 01:58 PM, BeartoothHOS wrote: Several machines have been showing lines like these : Press 'I' to enter interactive startup. Starting udev: udevd[405]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:3 udevd[405]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:3 udevd[405]: BUS= will be removed in a future udev version, please use SUBSYSTEM= to match the event device, or SUBSYSTEMS= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcscd_egate.rules:5 [etc., etc.] All of that is utterly opaque to me -- so impenetrable, indeed, that it bodes to presage another learning curve like '98 - '00, when I had just retired. But now I no longer have the strength nor the stamina to get through that again. Are all we subtechnoids about to be driven forth into the wilderness?? I think this change has been in the works for awhile, i ran into a similar issue with my usb bus udev entry. Personally, i dont consider myself a real guru, but this is, i think, a simple change in semantics... I'm not going to any wilderness! :) -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Need help installing ASUS audio drivers
On 07/09/2010 02:31 PM, Alan Nicoll wrote: uname -a Linux NN.FRONT 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 11 09:38:12 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux My M4A78L-M came with linux audio drivers on the CD but I get many errors trying to compile them and I don't know which of these are killers and which are spurious. The disk comes with an install.sh that I'm trying to run but it always ends in this: cp snd-page-alloc.o snd-pcm.o snd-timer.o snd.o /lib/modules/0.0.0/misc cp: cannot stat `snd-page-alloc.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd-pcm.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd-timer.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd.o': No such file or directory make[1]: *** [_modinst__] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nck/audiodrvrs/alsa-driver-1.0.18rc3/acore' make: *** [install-modules] Error 1 Alsa driver compiling failed! Nick are you sure alsa isnt a deprecated audio subsystem? PulseAudio has been working for me since fc11 (on fc12 now). just wondering, ... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: sshd Authentication refused
On 07/13/2010 11:16 AM, David Highley wrote: New install of Fedora 13 we get the following /var/log/secure entry when we ssh from a Fedora 12 system to the Fedora 13 system: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for file /home/dhighley/.ssh/authorized_keys We have checked and tried different modes until we are blue in the face. Have read the upates notes for openssh and Fedora 13 release. Googled the net for know issues and bugzilla.redhat.com. We did check for selinux blocks and found none. User home directory is auto NFS mounted and we use NIS. This works Fedora 12 to Fedora 12. Hi David, I use this feature of ssh a lot. i like to debug as, ... ssh u...@host date so it fails... now try, ssh -v -v -v u...@host date what does this tell you? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: sshd Authentication refused
On 07/13/2010 01:36 PM, David Highley wrote: jack craig wrote: On 07/13/2010 11:16 AM, David Highley wrote: New install of Fedora 13 we get the following /var/log/secure entry when we ssh from a Fedora 12 system to the Fedora 13 system: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for file /home/dhighley/.ssh/authorized_keys We have checked and tried different modes until we are blue in the face. Have read the upates notes for openssh and Fedora 13 release. Googled the net for know issues and bugzilla.redhat.com. We did check for selinux blocks and found none. User home directory is auto NFS mounted and we use NIS. This works Fedora 12 to Fedora 12. Hi David, I use this feature of ssh a lot. i like to debug as, ... ssh u...@host date so it fails... now try, ssh -v -v -v u...@host date what does this tell you? Nice [dhigh...@spruce ~]$ ssh -v -v -v redwood date i am going to assume for the moment you have created new key files and loaded them to the authorized_keys file. so, this is going to sound bizarre, but try it... lets talk client and server to identify the 2 hosts in your issue. on each host, in the home directory, $ mv .ssh .ssh_save log out of each of cleint server log into client try access the server via ssh cmd (ok if it fails), logout again. login and on each of client server, $ mv .ssh_save .ssh(make sure the perms stayed as 700) now try your $ ssh u...@host date again, any luck? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Thunderbird Fonts
On 07/15/2010 09:58 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I know how to change the font size for the message pane in Thunderbird (^-/^+). What I'd like to do is reduce the font size in the folders pane (so that I can see more folders in the list). I looked through the about:config and nothing jumped out at me. Is this something I can configure (and if not, why not)? you do realize that placing your cursor over the mail reading pane and doing ctl++ ctl-- will resize the font? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
On 07/21/2010 02:22 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: I have installed fedora 11 with windows xp, though the PC is for home use only. Like i have to use the documents editing, and the related works. So i have two questions, but first of all, i am going to ask only the first one in this thread: For only home users, who want to use fedora (and have version 11, that is, fedora 11) apart from the deep technological concepts which are very well revealed here, what a user who has no programming base, can start to go in fedora? like windows if GUI, so home persons can use it widely because everything is GUI. Thoguh fedora also may be GUI nowadays, but if someone want to start learning (for home purposes only), where should he start from knowing that there is only one PC, on which both - fedora as well as xp is installed. The main thing PC is used is for watching movies, listening music, documents editing and kids play. but a home user can himself (with no more hardware) and with a single pc (with net connection) can learn in this scenario as far as fedora usage is concerned? Regards, Parshwa Murdia install Firefox and google for life... ;-) -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
On 07/21/2010 05:03 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:04 AM, jack craigjcr...@extraview.com wrote: install Firefox and google for life... ;-) Really good suggestion, but w.r.t Fedora, life is related in small extent but more with watching movies and visiting new places. And the intention was to know abt Fedora 11, how tos and related and that much with the first priority. Regards, Parshwa Murdia you may rest assured that the fedora line of software will support your going as far and wide as you like. that is you may scratch the surface, use it like an expert or even develop your own code. unlike M$, its largely free from virus, free from user lockin (ie, proprietary code only), and totally free of $$$. even my wife uses my home Linux for her internet access! :-) the only thing is, you get out of it what you put into it, ... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
On 07/22/2010 09:13 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: unlike M$, its largely free from virus, free from user lockin (ie, proprietary code only), and totally free of $$$. even my wife uses my home Linux for her internet access! :-) the only thing is, you get out of it what you put into it, ... That's why I am now switching. Regards, Parshwa Murdia I am sure you will find this list, (and i am sure you will discover others), to be Gold on your quest! ;-) May the source be with you, ... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
suggestions for png markup
Hi Folks, I work in a web-based application provider context. As there are issues/comments regarding the display of application, its common for me to use the screenshot tool to grab a copy of the screen display to a .png file for support to address. that part is fine. What I am missing is an easy way to markup a .png with boxes, arrows, etc to further communicate what it is about the .png to be addressed. gimp seems too heavy weight for this, OO's draw isnt that friendly, and ! am unaware of other options. This is where y'all come in, anyone got a good suggestion for my missing markup tool? Last year, I was working for M$ and vista had one nice feature, a simple screenshot/markup tool in one app. Thats kind of what I am looking for in terms of usage... anyone? TIA, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: suggestions for png markup
On 07/23/2010 09:20 AM, JB wrote: jack craigjcraigat extraview.com writes: ... What I am missing is an easy way to markup a .png with boxes, arrows, etc to further communicate what it is about the .png to be addressed. gimp seems too heavy weight for this, OO's draw isnt that friendly, and ! am unaware of other options. Hi, could it be ? $ yum info ImageMagick JB ok, i had used IM some time back, but my recollection was it had display, convert, montage, but i dont recall the edit... which IM module am i missing? Thx! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: suggestions for png markup
On 07/23/2010 09:27 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 07/23/2010 11:07 AM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I work in a web-based application provider context. As there are issues/comments regarding the display of application, its common for me to use the screenshot tool to grab a copy of the screen display to a .png file for support to address. that part is fine. What I am missing is an easy way to markup a .png with boxes, arrows, etc to further communicate what it is about the .png to be addressed. gimp seems too heavy weight for this, OO's draw isnt that friendly, and ! am unaware of other options. This is where y'all come in, anyone got a good suggestion for my missing markup tool? Last year, I was working for M$ and vista had one nice feature, a simple screenshot/markup tool in one app. Thats kind of what I am looking for in terms of usage... anyone? TIA, jackc... Install shutter from the repos. It has markup tools galore. http://shutter-project.org/about/ Ah! Thx Steven, this was the kind of thing i was looking for!!! Off to download, Thx again, ... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: suggestions for png markup
On 07/23/2010 09:43 AM, JB wrote: jack craigjcraigat extraview.com writes: ... Hi, could it be ? $ yum info ImageMagick JB ok, i had used IM some time back, but my recollection was it had display, convert, montage, but i dont recall the edit... which IM module am i missing? Thx! Hi, man import - to capture image man display - to edit images $ display you may cancel image selection disalog click left mouse button for a command menu (Image Edit ...) JB Ok, you're right, i see it now. still, i think that shutter is a bit easier to use... Thx for all your replies, I appreciate your time!!! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Crontab as alarm clock with ogg123
On 07/26/2010 12:59 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Frank Coxthea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 12:55 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: So I'm thinking it's the same infrastructure to prevent others music playing when you switch users. But in my case I *want* it to play. Any ideas? /etc/security/console.perms.d/50-default.perms I created a new perms file called 51-default.perms and added ## sound=/dev/snd/* /dev/snd console 0666sound 0666 root ## rebooted (Did I need to?) I now notice that the devices in /dev/snd are crw-rw-rw-+. So Others should be able to write to the device. But I still cannot get cron to play an ogg music file unless it's for the person currently logged in. I have checked that the file plays fine when normally played so it's not an issue with ogg123 or the music file. Here is my crontab line (as tried for root) 30 12 * * 1 /usr/bin/ogg123 /root/Mists_of_Time-4T.ogg /var/log/cron tells me the command is issued but no sound from speakers. Here's the funny part. If I ssh in (as a different user) and run ogg123 from command line, sound plays on the sshd server machine. It works!! But not if I set it to play using cron. So basically one must be logged in either at the machine or through ssh. Also, if nobody is logged in, nothing is heard. But as soon as I log into the user who has the cron job running, the sound comes on immediately at login. If I then log out while the song is playing, sound stops. Log back in and sound comes on again. Obviously, the ogg123 process is running but the sound is being disconnected unless the user is logged in. wondering if udev rules is somehow responsible. Here is /etc/udev/rules.d/90-alsa.rules ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==sound, KERNEL==controlC*, \ RUN+=/sbin/alsactl -E ALSA_CONFIG_PATH=/etc/alsa/alsactl.conf --initfile=/lib/alsa/init/00main restore /dev/$name ACTION==remove, SUBSYSTEM==sound, KERNEL==controlC*, \ RUN+=/sbin/alsactl -E ALSA_CONFIG_PATH=/etc/alsa/alsactl.conf store /dev/$name Any ideas much appreciated? i am using crontab to do an alarm clock and it works fine. you said that you checked a nomral execuiton of the ogg player, but! maybe in hte crontab ckey paths (known to your shell, but not default in crontab) are missing. my example, ... /mailto=ja...@linuxlighthouse.com PATH=$PATH:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin # Wakeup call ## disabled until needed again 30 6 * * 1,2,3,4,5 /home/jackc/bin/wakeup you might add the mailto and see if it mails you any unresolved externals msg? just a wag... good luck... / -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox bug (fedora or mozilla?)
On 07/30/2010 11:12 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Thanks, Mike Wright [1] https://servicing.capitalone.com/c1/login.aspx [2] http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/software/tws/twsguide.htm you might find firebug, a firefox debugger, to shed some light on your mystery... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Crontab as alarm clock with ogg123
On 07/30/2010 12:44 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Frank Coxthea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 12:59 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: Any ideas much appreciated? Looks like you have the authorization for the sound device sorted out; there may also be something you have to do to tell pulseaudio to play sound for a user who is not currently logged in. I don't know enough about pulseaudio to guide you there; perhaps a google search for something like pulseaudio user authentication or pulseaudio user authorization will be of value? Solved: I simply removed pulseaudio and it works fine now. (on F11) #yum remove pulseaudio alsa-plugins-pulseaudio I must say, I find it kind of Windows-Like of Pulseaudio to force users to be logged in for audio to work. I think ALSA works just fine. in all fairness, PA has been working fine for me... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: camera won't automount [Solved]
On 08/02/2010 05:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 08/02/2010 02:41 PM, Claude Jones wrote: No one responded on this query, but, for the sake of posterity, here's the fix: Many modern digital cameras have two modes in which the flash memory operates, USB and PTP; I do not know what PTP means I believe it means Push-to-Print, permitting you to print photos directly from the camera to a PTP-capable printer. The camera retains control of the memory in that mode as opposed to becoming a USB memory card reader in the USB mode. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse. - -- minor point, but, PTP may also be known as... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture_Transfer_Protocol my recollection was a peer to peer definition, also wrong. :-) -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
wireless network discovery FC13
Hi Folks, I want to try fc13 on my netbook. after an install, wireless network discovery is not enabled. Where is that enabled? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: wireless network discovery FC13
On 08/05/2010 11:40 AM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I want to try fc13 on my netbook. after an install, wireless network discovery is not enabled. Where is that enabled? tia, jackc... Sorry, it was the firewall... :( -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: wireless network discovery FC13
On 08/05/2010 11:49 AM, jack craig wrote: On 08/05/2010 11:40 AM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I want to try fc13 on my netbook. after an install, wireless network discovery is not enabled. Where is that enabled? tia, jackc... Sorry, it was the firewall... :( however, dns still isnt working despite seeing the network... suggestions? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Login excursion disables keyboard
Hi Folks, Can anyone else verify the defect i seem to see? my netbook is running fc12. after a recent install, i noted a yellow warning icon on the main login screen. i clicked on that to see what was the issue. upon return to the login screen, i find the CR no longer works (mouse click does). anyone else? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: overriding USB vendor/product map
On 08/17/2010 10:31 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: Is it possible to force the kernel to assign a USB driver to a given vendor/product, if it has a custom product? In my case, I have a board with a CP2102 usb chip on it, which linux supports, but the CP2102 has a custom iProduct number so the driver just ignores it. i did this by editing the hw map on my host. /usr/share/hwdata/usb.ids just a wag, jackc... - Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Question about Bluetooth
On 08/19/2010 03:51 PM, JD wrote: Hi, If I boot up while the usb bluetooth is plugged in, I do not see the bluetooth icon on the bar (Gnome desktop). But if I unplug it and replug it back in, the icon appears and then I can use the laptop mouse pad to click it and connect to the bluetooth mouse. Is this the expected or normal behaviour? try a right click on the icon, i just turned mine off by clicking that icon. its reasonable you can click to to turn it on ... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines