RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did you find out how to do that? My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I am hoping it is better than what I have seen. Regards, John -Original Message- From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM Hi ! Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-): I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in the meantime... Tom VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb: Hi Chris, we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage. There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it is no real Eclipse integration. HTH, Stefan Chris wrote: I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurobase International Limited and its subsidiaries (Eurobase) are unable to exercise control over the content of information in E-Mails. Any views and opinions expressed may be personal to the sender and are not necessarily those of Eurobase. Eurobase will not enter into any contractual obligations in respect of any part of its business in any E-mail. Privileged / confidential information may be contained in this message and /or any attachments. This E-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential information. If you are not the / an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately, and then delete this E-mail. Neither the sender nor Eurobase accepts any liability whatsoever for any defects of any kind either in or arising from this E-mail transmission. E-Mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free, as messages can be intercepted, lost, corrupted, destroyed, contain viruses, or arrive late or incomplete. Eurobase does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan any attachments. Eurobase Systems Limited is the main trading company in the Eurobase International Group; registered in England and Wales as company number 02251162; registered address: Essex House, 2 County Place, Chelmsford, Essex CM2 0RE, UK. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another for private stuff :-)... found a post in the q4e users list: http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7afd79ebcf refering to an issue in q4e: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5 sorry, tom John Coleman schrieb: I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did you find out how to do that? My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I am hoping it is better than what I have seen. Regards, John -Original Message- From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM Hi ! Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-): I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in the meantime... Tom VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb: Hi Chris, we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage. There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it is no real Eclipse integration. HTH, Stefan Chris wrote: I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurobase International Limited and its subsidiaries (Eurobase) are unable to exercise control over the content of information in E-Mails. Any views and opinions expressed may be personal to the sender and are not necessarily those of Eurobase. Eurobase will not enter into any contractual obligations in respect of any part of its business in any E-mail. Privileged / confidential information may be contained in this message and /or any attachments. This E-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential information. If you are not the / an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately, and then delete this E-mail. Neither the sender nor Eurobase accepts any liability whatsoever for any defects of any kind either in or arising from this E-mail transmission. E-Mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free, as messages can be intercepted, lost, corrupted, destroyed, contain viruses, or arrive late or incomplete. Eurobase does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan any attachments. Eurobase Systems Limited is the main trading company in the Eurobase International Group; registered in England and Wales as company number 02251162; registered address: Essex House, 2 County Place, Chelmsford, Essex CM2 0RE, UK. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev release, ie http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz). Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works great for me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both WTP and Q4E nature. Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved (indirectly via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not too long future the 'official eclipse plugin' for maven support. I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/) Regards. 2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another for private stuff :-)... found a post in the q4e users list: http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7afd79ebcf refering to an issue in q4e: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5 sorry, tom John Coleman schrieb: I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did you find out how to do that? My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I am hoping it is better than what I have seen. Regards, John -Original Message- From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM Hi ! Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-): I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in the meantime... Tom VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb: Hi Chris, we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage. There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it is no real Eclipse integration. HTH, Stefan Chris wrote: I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurobase International Limited and its subsidiaries (Eurobase) are unable to exercise control over the content of information in E-Mails. Any views and opinions expressed may be personal to the sender and are not necessarily those of Eurobase. Eurobase will not enter into any contractual obligations in respect of any part of its business in any E-mail. Privileged / confidential information may be contained in this message and /or any attachments. This E-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential information. If you are not the / an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately, and then delete this E-mail. Neither the sender nor Eurobase accepts any liability whatsoever for any defects of any kind either in or arising from this E-mail transmission. E-Mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free, as messages can be intercepted, lost, corrupted, destroyed, contain viruses, or arrive late or incomplete. Eurobase does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan any attachments. Eurobase Systems Limited is the main trading company in the Eurobase International Group; registered in England and Wales as company number 02251162; registered address: Essex House, 2 County Place, Chelmsford, Essex CM2 0RE, UK. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Not supporting -P is a show stopper for us. We use the build number plugin, and insist that continumm builds have proper source-repo synchronization. Taking away these command line options is a big limitation. Expecting people to change their projects to suit this limitation seems unacceptable to me. I guess we'll have to use the command line in the meantime. Regards, John -Original Message- From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 15:01 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev release, ie http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz). Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works great for me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both WTP and Q4E nature. Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved (indirectly via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not too long future the 'official eclipse plugin' for maven support. I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/) Regards. 2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another for private stuff :-)... found a post in the q4e users list: http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7a fd79ebcf refering to an issue in q4e: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5 sorry, tom John Coleman schrieb: I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did you find out how to do that? My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I am hoping it is better than what I have seen. Regards, John -Original Message- From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM Hi ! Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-): I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in the meantime... Tom VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb: Hi Chris, we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage. There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it is no real Eclipse integration. HTH, Stefan Chris wrote: I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurobase International Limited and its subsidiaries (Eurobase) are unable to exercise control over the content of information in E-Mails. Any views and opinions expressed may be personal to the sender and are not necessarily those of Eurobase. Eurobase will not enter into any contractual obligations in respect of any part of its business in any E-mail. Privileged / confidential information may be contained in this message and /or any attachments. This E-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential information. If you are not the / an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately, and then delete this E-mail. Neither the sender nor Eurobase accepts any liability whatsoever for any defects of any kind either in or arising from this E-mail transmission. E-Mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free, as messages can be intercepted, lost, corrupted
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
it's just a matter of priorities and time, there's only 28 hours in a day ;) On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:47 AM, John Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not supporting -P is a show stopper for us. We use the build number plugin, and insist that continumm builds have proper source-repo synchronization. Taking away these command line options is a big limitation. Expecting people to change their projects to suit this limitation seems unacceptable to me. I guess we'll have to use the command line in the meantime. Regards, John -Original Message- From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 15:01 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev release, ie http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz). Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works great for me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both WTP and Q4E nature. Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved (indirectly via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not too long future the 'official eclipse plugin' for maven support. I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/) Regards. 2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another for private stuff :-)... found a post in the q4e users list: http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7a fd79ebcf refering to an issue in q4e: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5 sorry, tom John Coleman schrieb: I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did you find out how to do that? My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I am hoping it is better than what I have seen. Regards, John -Original Message- From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM Hi ! Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-): I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in the meantime... Tom VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb: Hi Chris, we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage. There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it is no real Eclipse integration. HTH, Stefan Chris wrote: I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurobase International Limited and its subsidiaries (Eurobase) are unable to exercise control over the content of information in E-Mails. Any views and opinions expressed may be personal to the sender and are not necessarily those of Eurobase. Eurobase will not enter into any contractual obligations in respect of any part of its business in any E-mail. Privileged / confidential information may be contained in this message and /or any attachments. This E-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain confidential information. If you are not the / an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you
RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
all these tools are not ready, in my opinion, but it is worth to take a look at them from time to time. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 02:45 AM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
The problem is when you don't have that time to time. Once you implement one, its very hard for you to get time to implement another one. Specially since there is no such thing as fail-safe plugin installations. Not to mention the learning curve each one requires. IOW: For a business, its better to stick to one and learn it well. If a standard (or Industry Quality) arrives, then adopt it and save money. Regards, Rodrigo On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Boeckli, Dominique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all these tools are not ready, in my opinion, but it is worth to take a look at them from time to time. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 02:45 AM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Hi Chris, we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage. There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it is no real Eclipse integration. HTH, Stefan Chris wrote: I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- best regards, Stefan Seidel software developer VUB Printmedia GmbH Chopinstraße 4 D-04103 Leipzig Germany tel.+49 (341) 9 60 50 07 fax.+49 (341) 9 60 50 92 mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] web.www.vub.de HRB Köln 24015 UStID DE 122 649 251 GF Dr. Achim Preuss Neudorf, Dr. Christian Preuss Neudorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Hi ! Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-): I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in the meantime... Tom VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb: Hi Chris, we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage. There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it is no real Eclipse integration. HTH, Stefan Chris wrote: I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison if I made it :-). I think it would be easy to have a feature matrix just if several users of the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list. As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.linkedin.com/in/amuino Abel Muintilde;o Vizcaino - http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mevenide-vs.-M2Eclipse%2C-Q-for-Eclipse-IAM-tp15659809s177p15662411.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I just worked on the Eclipse Integration page from Maven Users Wiki: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations. This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison. Selon Abel Muiño [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison if I made it :-). I think it would be easy to have a feature matrix just if several users of the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list. As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.linkedin.com/in/amuino Abel Muintilde;o Vizcaino - http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mevenide-vs.-M2Eclipse%2C-Q-for-Eclipse-IAM-tp15659809s177p15662411.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Nice work. However there is a deprecated indicator on the OSGi Bundles item (under Eclipse Developer). What exactly do you mean with it? As an OSGi developer I found it rather strange to see OSGi and deprecated on the same sentence. =o) Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I just worked on the Eclipse Integration page from Maven Users Wiki: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations. This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison. Selon Abel Muiño [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison if I made it :-). I think it would be easy to have a feature matrix just if several users of the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list. As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/ http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.linkedin.com/in/amuino Abel Muintilde;o Vizcaino - http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com -- View this message in context:
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Selon Rodrigo Madera [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nice work. thank you However there is a deprecated indicator on the OSGi Bundles item (under Eclipse Developer). What exactly do you mean with it? *I* don't mean anything: it was in the page before I changed it. Since I don't know the topic, I let it as-is. Feel free to fix the info if it is not accurate :) As an OSGi developer I found it rather strange to see OSGi and deprecated on the same sentence. =o) Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I just worked on the Eclipse Integration page from Maven Users Wiki: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations. This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison. Selon Abel Muiño [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison if I made it :-). I think it would be easy to have a feature matrix just if several users of the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list. As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/ http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
i've added a list of Q4E features to the table On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I just worked on the Eclipse Integration page from Maven Users Wiki: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations. This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison. Selon Abel Muiño [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison if I made it :-). I think it would be easy to have a feature matrix just if several users of the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list. As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.linkedin.com/in/amuino Abel Muintilde;o Vizcaino - http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mevenide-vs.-M2Eclipse%2C-Q-for-Eclipse-IAM-tp15659809s177p15662411.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
How about mevenide? Has anyone used it, know how it compares? Carlos Sanchez wrote: i've added a list of Q4E features to the table On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I just worked on the Eclipse Integration page from Maven Users Wiki: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations. This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison. Selon Abel Muiño [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison if I made it :-). I think it would be easy to have a feature matrix just if several users of the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list. As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.linkedin.com/in/amuino Abel Muintilde;o Vizcaino - http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mevenide-vs.-M2Eclipse%2C-Q-for-Eclipse-IAM-tp15659809s177p15662411.html Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
mevenide for eclipse is for maven 1 only. Milos On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about mevenide? Has anyone used it, know how it compares? Carlos Sanchez wrote: i've added a list of Q4E features to the table On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I just worked on the Eclipse Integration page from Maven Users Wiki: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations. This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison. Selon Abel Muiño [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison if I made it :-). I think it would be easy to have a feature matrix just if several users of the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list. As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project? I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning. Thanks, Rodrigo On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the following FAQ about Q4E: http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ Features * running Maven goals from the IDE * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download of dependencies * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM * dependency graphing http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer * direct import of Maven 2 projects * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse projects * ability to import parent projects (pom projects) http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects (from 0.5.0) * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0) * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0) What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)? The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation http://www.eclipse.org , for that reason the license is EPL and we are going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of DevZuz http://www.devzuz.com , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824 we are in a good position to achieve this goal. Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,... Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q. Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be -under-extreme-refactoring/http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/ ). In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its development. -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the alternatives, and didn't come up with much. Can someone tell me the differences? (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Any word on when Maven2 support for mevenide in Eclipse will be available? Milos Kleint wrote: yup. exactly as you assume. the eclipse related code at mevenide only supports maven1. The only maven2 related codebase we have currently is the netbeans module. Milos On 10/30/06, Steinar Bang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently using the m2eclipse plugin in eclipse 3.2, and it works. But today I thought that it was a pity that it didn't have a POM editor. So I googled for eclipse pom editor and discovered mevenide. http://mevenide.codehaus.org/mevenide-ui-eclipse/features.html (which has a POM editor, in case you wondered) So I'm wondering about the relationship between m2eclipse and mevenide, eg. are they in conflict? Are they complimentary? What advantages do one offer over the other? Googling for mevenide vs. m2eclipse found me this http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2006/03/29/maven-2-0.html?page=last search for mevenide in that page for Eclipse integration and you'll find an article saying mevenide only supports maven 1.x. But this was in April. Does anyone know if that's still the case? The http://mevenide.codehaus.org/ says the NetBeans plugin has Maven 2 support, but since nonde of the other mentions it I'm assuming they are still on Maven 1.x? Thanx! - Steinar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/mevenide-vs.-m2eclipse--tf2539922s177.html#a10289908 Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Are there instructions for compiling the latest m2eclipse code from trunk and providing a private update site? I've created a maven-embedder with the fix I would like in the plugin, and I don't know how to create the plugin with it in? org.maven.ide.eclipse\notes.txt seems to be missing information, --Duncan -Original Message- From: Stephan Schwab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 6:12 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Re: mevenide vs. m2eclipse? Martin van den Bemt wrote: The main focus for me is that people who don't want to know about how maven works, can still use the benefit of making maven projects work in their IDE. Currently at our employer everyone ditched m2eclipse since it doesn't work at all for them and switched to commandline, which is not an ideal situation. I faced a similar situation. So I compiled the latest m2eclipse code from trunk and provided a private update site. We're using the unofficial 0.10 release now and it really does work well and does everything we need for now. From what I can read m2eclipse is waiting for something in the maven embedder and then they can move forward. The m2eclipse compiled from trunk can be used with multi module projects and resolves dependencies from the Eclipse workspace. When you delete a dependency from your workspace and want to use the one provided from your build server, then you might have to do an additional clean and build within Eclipse - or sometimes even close and restart Eclipse -, but in general it does work. Stephan --- Blog http://www.stephan-schwab.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/mevenide-vs.-m2eclipse--tf2539922s177.html#a743559 2 Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It doesn't have a pom editor, although that could be added in the future (but isn't a priority at all). Mvgr, Martin Steinar Bang wrote: Andrés [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin, which features will it have?, why do you think it'll be better than m2eclipse? One thing I can think of, is a POM editor. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The main focus for me is that people who don't want to know about how maven works, can still use the benefit of making maven projects work in their IDE. Currently at our employer everyone ditched m2eclipse since it doesn't work at all for them and switched to commandline, which is not an ideal situation. Some features : - Quick switch between binary and project dependencies - React to pom changes (removing of deps, adding deps, changes in directories, etc) - Multiproject support (if a module is encountered you are able to automatically setup projects from those subprojects - Possibility to run goals of course :) - Integration with web projects, etc.. Pretty basic things for a plugin, which m2eclipse doesn't seem to be capable of doing very well.. It will be opensource, but priorities for me is to get our projects more effective when using maven2. Mvgr, Martin Andrés wrote: El 10/11/2006 17:22, Martin van den Bemt escribió: Definitely :) I'll post on that later when there is a usable version Mvgr, Martin Steinar Bang wrote: Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working on a m2 eclipse plugin, but that is not public yet.. Thanx for the information! Will it be better than m2eclipse? :-) Martin, which features will it have?, why do you think it'll be better than m2eclipse? Andrés - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Martin van den Bemt wrote: The main focus for me is that people who don't want to know about how maven works, can still use the benefit of making maven projects work in their IDE. Currently at our employer everyone ditched m2eclipse since it doesn't work at all for them and switched to commandline, which is not an ideal situation. I faced a similar situation. So I compiled the latest m2eclipse code from trunk and provided a private update site. We're using the unofficial 0.10 release now and it really does work well and does everything we need for now. From what I can read m2eclipse is waiting for something in the maven embedder and then they can move forward. The m2eclipse compiled from trunk can be used with multi module projects and resolves dependencies from the Eclipse workspace. When you delete a dependency from your workspace and want to use the one provided from your build server, then you might have to do an additional clean and build within Eclipse - or sometimes even close and restart Eclipse -, but in general it does work. Stephan --- Blog http://www.stephan-schwab.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/mevenide-vs.-m2eclipse--tf2539922s177.html#a7435592 Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andrés [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin, which features will it have?, why do you think it'll be better than m2eclipse? One thing I can think of, is a POM editor. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I ever used m2eclipse, but it doesn't work well. And it sounds that mevenide doesn't support Mavan2. Then I don't use any Eclipse plugin for Maven currently. I just set mvn.bat as serveral Eclipse external tools. Each tool corresponds with some arguments(e.g. compile, clean package, clean...). a cup of Java, cheers! Sha Jiang Steinar Bang wrote: Andrés [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin, which features will it have?, why do you think it'll be better than m2eclipse? One thing I can think of, is a POM editor. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/mevenide-vs.-m2eclipse--tf2539922s177.html#a7426675 Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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El 10/11/2006 17:22, Martin van den Bemt escribió: Definitely :) I'll post on that later when there is a usable version Mvgr, Martin Steinar Bang wrote: Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working on a m2 eclipse plugin, but that is not public yet.. Thanx for the information! Will it be better than m2eclipse? :-) Martin, which features will it have?, why do you think it'll be better than m2eclipse? Andrés - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Definitely :) I'll post on that later when there is a usable version Mvgr, Martin Steinar Bang wrote: Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working on a m2 eclipse plugin, but that is not public yet.. Thanx for the information! Will it be better than m2eclipse? :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Steinar Bang wrote: Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working on a m2 eclipse plugin, but that is not public yet.. Will it be better than m2eclipse? :-) Definitely :) I'll post on that later when there is a usable version Cool. I'm looking forward to that. :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yup. exactly as you assume. the eclipse related code at mevenide only supports maven1. The only maven2 related codebase we have currently is the netbeans module. Milos On 10/30/06, Steinar Bang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently using the m2eclipse plugin in eclipse 3.2, and it works. But today I thought that it was a pity that it didn't have a POM editor. So I googled for eclipse pom editor and discovered mevenide. http://mevenide.codehaus.org/mevenide-ui-eclipse/features.html (which has a POM editor, in case you wondered) So I'm wondering about the relationship between m2eclipse and mevenide, eg. are they in conflict? Are they complimentary? What advantages do one offer over the other? Googling for mevenide vs. m2eclipse found me this http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2006/03/29/maven-2-0.html?page=last search for mevenide in that page for Eclipse integration and you'll find an article saying mevenide only supports maven 1.x. But this was in April. Does anyone know if that's still the case? The http://mevenide.codehaus.org/ says the NetBeans plugin has Maven 2 support, but since nonde of the other mentions it I'm assuming they are still on Maven 1.x? Thanx! - Steinar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am working on a m2 eclipse plugin, but that is not public yet.. Mvgr, Martin Steinar Bang wrote: I'm currently using the m2eclipse plugin in eclipse 3.2, and it works. But today I thought that it was a pity that it didn't have a POM editor. So I googled for eclipse pom editor and discovered mevenide. http://mevenide.codehaus.org/mevenide-ui-eclipse/features.html (which has a POM editor, in case you wondered) So I'm wondering about the relationship between m2eclipse and mevenide, eg. are they in conflict? Are they complimentary? What advantages do one offer over the other? Googling for mevenide vs. m2eclipse found me this http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2006/03/29/maven-2-0.html?page=last search for mevenide in that page for Eclipse integration and you'll find an article saying mevenide only supports maven 1.x. But this was in April. Does anyone know if that's still the case? The http://mevenide.codehaus.org/ says the NetBeans plugin has Maven 2 support, but since nonde of the other mentions it I'm assuming they are still on Maven 1.x? Thanx! - Steinar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working on a m2 eclipse plugin, but that is not public yet.. Thanx for the information! Will it be better than m2eclipse? :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
