Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Armin Ehrenfels
 A few months ago, I developed a Groovy based component for Cocoon 2.2.
I found the maven support very good. There were, at that time, a few
very helpful archetypes that made setting up the project easy. I
remember the Cocoon community as being very active, friendly and supportive.
 From my experience, I'd switch to Cocoon 2.2, as it is tailored to use
maven.  Of course, it  depends on the complexity of your Cocoon 2.1.11
project and your Cocoon background. Anyway, you should carefully follow
the instructions on the Cocoon web site / wikis.

HTH

Armin

Peter Horlock schrieb:
 Hi,

 We are using Cocoon 2.1.11 with Maven and Java 6.

 I just joined the company, and I get a few thousand errors in eclipse when I
 import the project -
 As it seems the reason is that Java 6 includes a lot of new org.w3c classes,
 that hadn't been in the other JDKs before,
 so these classes were implemented by third party projects - now with Java 6
 both versions
 clash and I get those errors, while, magically, everything works fine on the
 other developers' machines -
 I assume it works for them because they do have Java 4, 5 and 6 on their
 machines, or whatsoever -
 but instead of trying to adjust my system I would like to do it proper and
 to make it work for every clean system too.

 Does anyone of you have a pom for Cocoon 2.1.11, or do you know if I could
 update to Cocoon 2.2 without any worries?
 I don't know much about Cocoon yet, but it seems there are several Cocoon
 plugins for Cocoon 2.2. The project, however,
 neither seems to provide a pom, but maybe it's not necessary because you can
 use the plugins instead?

 Any help appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,

 Peter

   


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Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Peter Horlock
Well, I also guessed that Cocoon 2.2 has (a better) maven support.
However, as I am completely new to the company as well as to Cocoon, I doubt
it would be the best idea
to make the entire dev team switch to Cocoon 2.2, especially as it works for
them.

Maybe there's an option that would be less politically dangerous? I would
prefer not to step on everyone's toes on my very first days! ;-)

Peter


Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Armin Ehrenfels
Have you checked at the Cocoon web site, to what degree version 2.1.11
supports maven ?  I can remember an extended discussion about how to use
maven in conjunction with this version, but IIRC, many experienced
users/developers recommended the switch to 2.2. Maybe that has changed.

Good luck

Armin
Peter Horlock schrieb:
 Well, I also guessed that Cocoon 2.2 has (a better) maven support.
 However, as I am completely new to the company as well as to Cocoon, I doubt
 it would be the best idea
 to make the entire dev team switch to Cocoon 2.2, especially as it works for
 them.

 Maybe there's an option that would be less politically dangerous? I would
 prefer not to step on everyone's toes on my very first days! ;-)

 Peter

   


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RE: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Martin Gainty

Herr Ehrenfels

Could you suggest a link for documentation and or download for cocoon 2.1.11 
archetypes?

Vielen Danke,
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 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:44:38 +0200
 From: armin.ehrenf...@t-online.de
 To: users@maven.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11
 
  A few months ago, I developed a Groovy based component for Cocoon 2.2.
 I found the maven support very good. There were, at that time, a few
 very helpful archetypes that made setting up the project easy. I
 remember the Cocoon community as being very active, friendly and supportive.
  From my experience, I'd switch to Cocoon 2.2, as it is tailored to use
 maven.  Of course, it  depends on the complexity of your Cocoon 2.1.11
 project and your Cocoon background. Anyway, you should carefully follow
 the instructions on the Cocoon web site / wikis.
 
 HTH
 
 Armin
 
 Peter Horlock schrieb:
  Hi,
 
  We are using Cocoon 2.1.11 with Maven and Java 6.
 
  I just joined the company, and I get a few thousand errors in eclipse when I
  import the project -
  As it seems the reason is that Java 6 includes a lot of new org.w3c classes,
  that hadn't been in the other JDKs before,
  so these classes were implemented by third party projects - now with Java 6
  both versions
  clash and I get those errors, while, magically, everything works fine on the
  other developers' machines -
  I assume it works for them because they do have Java 4, 5 and 6 on their
  machines, or whatsoever -
  but instead of trying to adjust my system I would like to do it proper and
  to make it work for every clean system too.
 
  Does anyone of you have a pom for Cocoon 2.1.11, or do you know if I could
  update to Cocoon 2.2 without any worries?
  I don't know much about Cocoon yet, but it seems there are several Cocoon
  plugins for Cocoon 2.2. The project, however,
  neither seems to provide a pom, but maybe it's not necessary because you can
  use the plugins instead?
 
  Any help appreciated.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Peter
 

 
 
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Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Armin Ehrenfels
Martin,

 sorry, I don't know of any. As I wrote in my last reply , there was a
discussion on the mail lists about how to use maven with  Cocoon 2.1.11,
but at that time, there were archetypes available for Cocoon2.2 only.

Regards

Armin
 
Martin Gainty schrieb:
 Herr Ehrenfels

 Could you suggest a link for documentation and or download for cocoon 2.1.11 
 archetypes?

 Vielen Danke,
 Martin  
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 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:44:38 +0200
 From: armin.ehrenf...@t-online.de
 To: users@maven.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

  A few months ago, I developed a Groovy based component for Cocoon 2.2.
 I found the maven support very good. There were, at that time, a few
 very helpful archetypes that made setting up the project easy. I
 remember the Cocoon community as being very active, friendly and supportive.
  From my experience, I'd switch to Cocoon 2.2, as it is tailored to use
 maven.  Of course, it  depends on the complexity of your Cocoon 2.1.11
 project and your Cocoon background. Anyway, you should carefully follow
 the instructions on the Cocoon web site / wikis.

 HTH

 Armin

 Peter Horlock schrieb:
 
 Hi,

 We are using Cocoon 2.1.11 with Maven and Java 6.

 I just joined the company, and I get a few thousand errors in eclipse when I
 import the project -
 As it seems the reason is that Java 6 includes a lot of new org.w3c classes,
 that hadn't been in the other JDKs before,
 so these classes were implemented by third party projects - now with Java 6
 both versions
 clash and I get those errors, while, magically, everything works fine on the
 other developers' machines -
 I assume it works for them because they do have Java 4, 5 and 6 on their
 machines, or whatsoever -
 but instead of trying to adjust my system I would like to do it proper and
 to make it work for every clean system too.

 Does anyone of you have a pom for Cocoon 2.1.11, or do you know if I could
 update to Cocoon 2.2 without any worries?
 I don't know much about Cocoon yet, but it seems there are several Cocoon
 plugins for Cocoon 2.2. The project, however,
 neither seems to provide a pom, but maybe it's not necessary because you can
 use the plugins instead?

 Any help appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,

 Peter

   
   
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RE: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Martin Gainty

peter 

i would suggest a quick refactor of cocoon in a environment you can control
(laptop ..show this to devs and 'political operatives' that the refactor to 
cocoon works)

please keep us apprised as many others are (considering a) move to cocoon
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 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:56:46 +0200
 Subject: Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11
 From: peter.horl...@googlemail.com
 To: users@maven.apache.org
 
 Well, I also guessed that Cocoon 2.2 has (a better) maven support.
 However, as I am completely new to the company as well as to Cocoon, I doubt
 it would be the best idea
 to make the entire dev team switch to Cocoon 2.2, especially as it works for
 them.
 
 Maybe there's an option that would be less politically dangerous? I would
 prefer not to step on everyone's toes on my very first days! ;-)
 
 Peter

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Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell


On 12 Jun 2009, at 12:42, Armin Ehrenfels wrote:

sorry, I don't know of any. As I wrote in my last reply , there was a
discussion on the mail lists about how to use maven with  Cocoon  
2.1.11,

but at that time, there were archetypes available for Cocoon2.2 only.


You're unlikely to see archetypes for anything on the cocoon 2.1  
line.  Mostly because you have to rebuild cocoon from source in the  
first place just to get started.


If you want to use maven with Cocoon, you're much better off with 2.2.

That said, I did use the maven-ant-tasks to pull in non-cocoon  
dependencies in a 2.1 project.  Whilst it works OK, it's not as nice  
as proper maven support.


-Dom

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Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On 12 Jun 2009, at 12:57, Martin Gainty wrote:
please keep us apprised as many others are (considering a) move to  
cocoon


Just out of interest, why are you considering moving to Cocoon?

-Dom

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Re: Maven + Cocoon 2.1.11

2009-06-12 Thread Stephen Connolly



Sent from my [rhymes with myPod] ;-)

On 12 Jun 2009, at 14:04, Dominic Mitchell d...@semantico.com wrote:


On 12 Jun 2009, at 12:57, Martin Gainty wrote:
please keep us apprised as many others are (considering a) move to  
cocoon


Just out of interest, why are you considering moving to Cocoon?

-Dom


yes, please enlighten us, we are currently running away as fast as we  
can





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