Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 06/26/2015 12:26 AM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: What do you do if most every document you create with your word processor (WP) is in a different style, you don't know its style until you finish creating it? Sounds like you are confusing styles, with templates. For my personal use, I create a lot of specialized lists inventories w/ my WP, Are you using styles for presentation markup, semantic markup, or some other type of markup, or a completely different purpose? still couldn't get that Writer WP to produce the documents I needed in the format I wanted. I'm going to suggest that despite the hours you invested in trying to become proficient, you spent barely any time determining what it was, that you were trying to accomplish. What is more, when I was required to re-edit a Writer document at a later time, I found the re-editing often undid all the formatting I thought I had built into the Writer document. That sounds like you are doing the markup manually, rather than by using styles. Alternatively, you are saving the resulting document in file format that does not preserve markup. jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 6/25/2015 7:26 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: What do you do if most every document you create with your word processor (WP) is in a different style, you don't know its style until you finish creating it? For my personal use, I create a lot of specialized lists inventories w/ my WP, in addition to creating documents written articles in many varied formats. To address the responder of my initial posting, let me say: I've invested a lot of time in trying to become proficient in Writer styles w/o much success. Also, I bought every reference I could find on 'Writer,' but still couldn't get that Writer WP to produce the documents I needed in the format I wanted. What is more, when I was required to re-edit a Writer document at a later time, I found the re-editing often undid all the formatting I thought I had built into the Writer document. I don't mind investing in computer programming technology that serves my needs. (For a selfie aside, I started in the computer business in 1961, was, at various times, fluent in 7 ea. different computer languages. So I know what it means to invest one's time effort to acquire proficiency w/ a particular software product.) I decided w/ Writer that I wasn't making progress getting my work done. Therefore, I decided to invest my time energy elsewhere. In consistency w/ my previous experience, I chose to invest my time energy in the so-called tried true--in this case MS Word. My priority has always been on getting my work done efficiently, not on learning to become proficient w/ any particular software product. Best wishes, If you have assigned a specific style to a document, you should know that. If you haven't assigned a specific style to it, it will use the default style. An exception to this could be if you begin a document by copying from an already existing document in which case it will inherit that existing document's styles. One document can use several different styles. While it can have only one page style, it can have several paragraph styles, etc. In Writer, the info box just to the left of the one containing the name of the font appears the name of the current paragraph style. If you haven't assigned one, it should say Default. You can also create a template containing any special collection of styles you wish. Then, each time you create a document from that template it will have those styles assigned to it. If you do not use a template to create a new document, then that new document will only have access to the system styles. Any styles you create in one document will not be available in another document unless it is done by way of a template. To assign a particular style to a page, give that page the focus, go to the Format menu and select Styles and Formatting. Usually this opens a dialog with Paragraph styles selected, but just click on Page Styles at the top of the box and then double click the style you wish to assign. If you wish to create a new style for your page, right click on any of the styles listed and select New and change it to whatever parameters you wish to set. It will have inherited the parameters of the style you clicked on when you selected New but you can change them to whatever you like and give it a name. Now that's probably all you will need to get started learning about styles. As far as which parameters to set, many of them are intuitive. Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question re/ using Open Office
On 6/25/2015 7:29 PM, Richard Fox wrote: OK. That works. But it's kind of a back-handed approach. What I was trying to do was to double-click on an xlsx document itself, right click on open with and have it open with OO. It really SHOULD since I have both MS Office and OO installed. But for some reason, my system doesn't seem to recognize that OO is installed. For the record ... I was selling mainframes to the largest corporations in the world and managing project management teams world-wide a long time ago (possibly before you were born - no slight intended). I really do know how to do problem determination. I have spent hours and I just can't figure out why this won't work without having to start OO first. I have at least a dozen options. It's just that OO isn't one of them. It's almost as though it didn't get into the registry properly. I'll work on this some more when I get a chance. Do you think that the problem might be the name of the program you're looking for is not openoffice.exe, but rather soffice.exe or swriter.exe ??? The names are still the same as they were when the product was called Star Office. I used Star Office under OS/2 Warp even before Sun had anything to do with it. I, too, was a mainframer but I retired 15 years ago. Do they still make mainframes? Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice update issue
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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
What is ment by style?Bill Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6.Bill Suepke Legalshield Original message From: Joe Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com Date: 06/25/2015 6:53 PM (GMT-08:00) To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user It would be useful to have a definition/characterization of each of the various styles in the standard install. The names are available, but sometimes they are not very informative. I would like less of the trial and experiment and more of an intelligent choice when it comes to choosing a style. Blessings, Joe On 6/25/2015 9:02 AM, Doug wrote: On 06/25/2015 02:10 AM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: /snip/ I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin Learning to use styles is too high a price to pay for a free word processor. I'd rather pay money and get something user-friendly. --doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 06/25/2015 01:05 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: I would love to learn to use styles; unfortunately there are no books for OO 4, and the tutorials are not much help. Has anyone written a good introductory 'how to' guide? While it's a bit dated, there's OpenOffice.org 2 Guidebook, by Solveig Haugland. It has a 30 page chapter on styles. http://www.amazon.com/The-OpenOffice-org-Guidebook-Solveig-Haugland/dp/0974312029 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On Jun 25, 2015, at 02:10, Dale Erwin dale.er...@casaerwin.org wrote: I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. I would love to learn to use styles; unfortunately there are no books for OO 4, and the tutorials are not much help. Has anyone written a good introductory 'how to' guide? — jt - j...@jt-mj.net PUBLIC NOTICE: Any use of this message, in any manner whatsoever, will increase the amount of disorder in the universe. Although no liability is implied herein, the consumer is warned that this process will ultimately lead to the heat death of the universe. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:05:32 -0400 Julian Thomas j...@jt-mj.net wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 02:10, Dale Erwin dale.er...@casaerwin.org wrote: I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. I would love to learn to use styles; unfortunately there are no books for OO 4, and the tutorials are not much help. Has anyone written a good introductory 'how to' guide? Any of the OO 3 books are OK for teaching about Styles. Try also https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Writer/Styles http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2005/12/all_about_style.html Anything on Open-/Libre-Office by Jean Hollis Weber or Solveig Haugland will be sound, clear and most helpful. — jt - j...@jt-mj.net PUBLIC NOTICE: Any use of this message, in any manner whatsoever, will increase the amount of disorder in the universe. Although no liability is implied herein, the consumer is warned that this process will ultimately lead to the heat death of the universe. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question re/ using Open Office
Doesn't seem to work. No matter how I try to open an xlsx file (Office 2010) I can't seem to get an OO option. This PS is running Win 8.1. I have both Office 2010 and OO running so that I can test portability. I'm also using File Center for file management. I thought that might be the problem since it's in the middle of everything, but that's not the problem. I've tested with the files in Explorer and I still can't select OO to open. I have another PC that's running Win 7 but I don't have OO installed on it. -Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:09 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org ; Richard Fox Subject: Re: Question re/ using Open Office On 06/25/2015 09:26 AM, Richard Fox wrote: Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work as you described. I have both MS Office and OO installed (for testing), and when I right click on open with I get about a dozen options but OO isn't one of them. Can you open OO first and then open the file with it? It's unusual that you can't find OO when you use open with. I assume you're running Windows. Richard Fox rafo...@outlook.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 06/25/2015 02:10 AM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: /snip/ I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin Learning to use styles is too high a price to pay for a free word processor. I'd rather pay money and get something user-friendly. --doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
2015-06-25 18:02 GMT+02:00 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net: On 06/25/2015 02:10 AM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: /snip/ I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin Learning to use styles is too high a price to pay for a free word processor. I'd rather pay money and get something user-friendly. What price? Styles are easy to learn. However, it seems to me that the OP is talking about auto correction rather than styles, but maybe I'm just wrong about that. And finally another thing: To me, the fact that Apache OpenOffice is free is not that important. It's actually the only office thing I can use. Others either can't be installed on my operating system (for instance MS Office) or they are just plain crap (such as LibreOffice). So MS Office may be 100 times better, but I can still not use it anyway, so it's kind of disqualified in my case. I don't know much about MS Office these days, but last time I used it, I think it was the 2003 version (I had another operating system back then), I couldn't make it do what I wanted. Nothing fancy, but it was very easy to do with OpenOffice.org. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ --doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
It would be useful to have a definition/characterization of each of the various styles in the standard install. The names are available, but sometimes they are not very informative. I would like less of the trial and experiment and more of an intelligent choice when it comes to choosing a style. Blessings, Joe On 6/25/2015 9:02 AM, Doug wrote: On 06/25/2015 02:10 AM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: /snip/ I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin Learning to use styles is too high a price to pay for a free word processor. I'd rather pay money and get something user-friendly. --doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:53:32 -0700 Joe Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote: It would be useful to have a definition/characterization of each of the various styles in the standard install. The names are available, but sometimes they are not very informative. I would like less of the trial and experiment and more of an intelligent choice when it comes to choosing a style. Blessings, Joe A list of and description of the styles is given at https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=48530 RoryOF On 6/25/2015 9:02 AM, Doug wrote: On 06/25/2015 02:10 AM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: /snip/ I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin Learning to use styles is too high a price to pay for a free word processor. I'd rather pay money and get something user-friendly. --doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 06/26/2015 01:53 AM, Joe Conner wrote: It would be useful to have a definition/characterization of each of the various styles in the standard install. Is this what you are looking for: Paragraph Styles Name: Default Font: Times New Roman Font Size: 12 point Font Weight:normal Font Colour:black Indentation:0 Justification: ragged right Line spacing: single Style Relationship: This is the basic style. All other styles use this as their original parameters. Used for: This style is suitable for large blocks of text. If all you want to do, is write text, and forget about either semantic markup, or presentation markup, use this style. Name: next font, blah, blah, blah. jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
Doug - Thank you for the update re WordPerfect. Being retired these last 12 years, a $ 200.00 version just makes o sense., though I (luckily) can afford it. Just makes no sense as I can't fully deduct it as a business expense. A $ 50.00 version sounds reasonable. I'll have to look in detail in to the differences between the two versions. I do need a fully functional spread sheet program integrated into the suite. No need for a presentation program or a database anny more. Again,, thank you for the tip. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 06/25/2015 08:57 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: Anthony - I'm with you. The whole styles approach is ridiculous. I still have a great fondness for Word Perfect. The Reveal Codes function gave me total control. Even more so than Micro$loth Word. Sadly, for all practical purposes, Word Perfect is functionally dead. WP just came out with a new version, that can read and write all the MS versions as well as its own. Standard edition is $200. http://www.wordperfect.com/us/product/office-suite/?promo=2968gclid=CKTG_qSsrMYCFVg8gQodrLcB-Q However, home and student edition is $50! http://www.amazon.com/WordPerfect-Office-X7-Home-Student/dp/B00JC5Y6YA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1435287173sr=8-1keywords=wordperfect+x7 I haven't researched the difference, but I'm reasonably sure that you'd get at least the complete word processor for your 50 bucks. --doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question re/ using Open Office
On 06/25/2015 09:53 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 20:29, Richard Fox rafo...@outlook.com wrote: OK. That works. But it's kind of a back-handed approach. What I was trying to do was to double-click on an xlsx document itself, right click on open with and have it open with OO. It really SHOULD since I have both MS Office and OO installed. But for some reason, my system doesn't seem to recognize that OO is installed. As may have been suggested [this assumes you are using windoze], you need to change the defaults for the default app to open a file when you click on it. See the previous posts in this thread [I don't use MS windoze and don't remember the exact procedure]. Windows will work like your Linux: open the OO program, go to the file prompt, and find the file you want to open and click on it. --doug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 06/25/2015 09:57 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 21:11, Andrew Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: I still have a great fondness for Word Perfect. The Reveal Codes function gave me total control. Even more so than Micro$loth Word. I totally agree - Reveal Codes was a superb and valuable feature that SHOULD have been incorporated into OO. OO wouldn't be able to use it. The first time you tried to enter something you found in Reveal Codes it would violate the damn style! — jt - j...@jt-mj.net When in doubt tell the truth. -Mark Twain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question re/ using Open Office
On 06/25/2015 10:25 PM, James Knott wrote: For the record, I bought my first computer in 1976, an IMSAI 8080, worked for several years as a computer technician maintaining mini-computers, DEC VAX 11/780, a few different PR1ME and Data General models, along with a Collins C8500 (a mil spec version of the IBM 360) system running the Air Canada reservation system and also 3rd level support at IBM Canada, where I worked on OS/2, Windows 95, NT XP and several applications. I also have considerable experience with Linux and am a Cisco CCNA. I have also completed several computer science courses. In short, my experience with computers goes back to the mid '70s or even a few years earlier, if you count a FORTRAN class I took in high school. Forgot to mention Certified OS/2 Warp 4 Engineer and Novell Netware 3.x CNA. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 6/25/2015 11:02 AM, Doug wrote: On 06/25/2015 02:10 AM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: /snip/ I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin Learning to use styles is too high a price to pay for a free word processor. I'd rather pay money and get something user-friendly. --doug Well, no software will give you service if you aren't willing to take the time to learn how to use it. It's only money. Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question re/ using Open Office
To change the default association in win 8.1, using the following as a guide: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/windows-8/choose-programs-windows-uses-default# http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/windows-8/choose-programs-windows-uses-default# The first computer we owned was a MITS Altair 8800 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_8800 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_8800 On Jun 25, 2015, at 11:07 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: On 06/25/2015 10:25 PM, James Knott wrote: For the record, I bought my first computer in 1976, an IMSAI 8080, worked for several years as a computer technician maintaining mini-computers, DEC VAX 11/780, a few different PR1ME and Data General models, along with a Collins C8500 (a mil spec version of the IBM 360) system running the Air Canada reservation system and also 3rd level support at IBM Canada, where I worked on OS/2, Windows 95, NT XP and several applications. I also have considerable experience with Linux and am a Cisco CCNA. I have also completed several computer science courses. In short, my experience with computers goes back to the mid '70s or even a few years earlier, if you count a FORTRAN class I took in high school. Forgot to mention Certified OS/2 Warp 4 Engineer and Novell Netware 3.x CNA. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
What do you do if most every document you create with your word processor (WP) is in a different style, you don't know its style until you finish creating it? For my personal use, I create a lot of specialized lists inventories w/ my WP, in addition to creating documents written articles in many varied formats. To address the responder of my initial posting, let me say: I've invested a lot of time in trying to become proficient in Writer styles w/o much success. Also, I bought every reference I could find on 'Writer,' but still couldn't get that Writer WP to produce the documents I needed in the format I wanted. What is more, when I was required to re-edit a Writer document at a later time, I found the re-editing often undid all the formatting I thought I had built into the Writer document. I don't mind investing in computer programming technology that serves my needs. (For a selfie aside, I started in the computer business in 1961, was, at various times, fluent in 7 ea. different computer languages. So I know what it means to invest one's time effort to acquire proficiency w/ a particular software product.) I decided w/ Writer that I wasn't making progress getting my work done. Therefore, I decided to invest my time energy elsewhere. In consistency w/ my previous experience, I chose to invest my time energy in the so-called tried true--in this case MS Word. My priority has always been on getting my work done efficiently, not on learning to become proficient w/ any particular software product. Best wishes, Anthony J. Rudgers Orlando, FL Posted: June 25, 2015; 8:25 pm -Original Message- From: Dale Erwin Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:10 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Anthony Rudgers Subject: Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: As to word processors suitable for the general user, my vote is for Microsoft Word. While, like most everyone on our Planet, I'd like the proverbial free lunch, I don't expect to get one. However, I found I can get MS Word to give me the text I want to type almost always. But when I use Writer, I keep getting something I have to constantly diddle with to get it to appear in the form I want. And, if I want something fancier than simple text, I can get that too with MS Word. I'd like Writer fine if only I could sit down at my computer prepare a document using it without constantly undoing all the things built into Writer that I've never figured out how to turn off or to modify. Of course I had to pay a somewhat steep price to get a WP that served my needs, but my time is valuable to me too, so the ease of use the reliability of MS Word seems well worth the cost in the long run. I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
I have found styles a real time saver... Imagine a 600 page document and you device that you want top change the don't color of all identifiers for contained coffee examples. I can do it very quickly. For what I refer to as garbage documents (quick letters, half page simple formatting, etc) it helps little. If you ate already well versed in their use or is generally easier to use them than not, but you can usually must ignore them and it does not matter. I have a friend who uses word perfect. In all her documents she set spacing in her paragraphs by adding spaces. She saw no use for that whole setting the margins and indents.. Until she had to change them and / or insert text. On Jun 25, 2015 7:57 PM, Jim McLaughlin jjim.mclaugh...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony - I'm with you. The whole styles approach is ridiculous. I still have a great fondness for Word Perfect. The Reveal Codes function gave me total control. Even more so than Micro$loth Word. Sadly, for all practical purposes, Word Perfect is functionally dead. OO is a poor second, IMHO. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers anthonyrudg...@att.net wrote: What do you do if most every document you create with your word processor (WP) is in a different style, you don't know its style until you finish creating it? For my personal use, I create a lot of specialized lists inventories w/ my WP, in addition to creating documents written articles in many varied formats. To address the responder of my initial posting, let me say: I've invested a lot of time in trying to become proficient in Writer styles w/o much success. Also, I bought every reference I could find on 'Writer,' but still couldn't get that Writer WP to produce the documents I needed in the format I wanted. What is more, when I was required to re-edit a Writer document at a later time, I found the re-editing often undid all the formatting I thought I had built into the Writer document. I don't mind investing in computer programming technology that serves my needs. (For a selfie aside, I started in the computer business in 1961, was, at various times, fluent in 7 ea. different computer languages. So I know what it means to invest one's time effort to acquire proficiency w/ a particular software product.) I decided w/ Writer that I wasn't making progress getting my work done. Therefore, I decided to invest my time energy elsewhere. In consistency w/ my previous experience, I chose to invest my time energy in the so-called tried true--in this case MS Word. My priority has always been on getting my work done efficiently, not on learning to become proficient w/ any particular software product. Best wishes, Anthony J. Rudgers Orlando, FL Posted: June 25, 2015; 8:25 pm -Original Message- From: Dale Erwin Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:10 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Anthony Rudgers Subject: Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: As to word processors suitable for the general user, my vote is for Microsoft Word. While, like most everyone on our Planet, I'd like the proverbial free lunch, I don't expect to get one. However, I found I can get MS Word to give me the text I want to type almost always. But when I use Writer, I keep getting something I have to constantly diddle with to get it to appear in the form I want. And, if I want something fancier than simple text, I can get that too with MS Word. I'd like Writer fine if only I could sit down at my computer prepare a document using it without constantly undoing all the things built into Writer that I've never figured out how to turn off or to modify. Of course I had to pay a somewhat steep price to get a WP that served my needs, but my time is valuable to me too, so the ease of use the reliability of MS Word seems well worth the cost in the long run. I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question re/ using Open Office
On Jun 25, 2015, at 20:29, Richard Fox rafo...@outlook.com wrote: OK. That works. But it's kind of a back-handed approach. What I was trying to do was to double-click on an xlsx document itself, right click on open with and have it open with OO. It really SHOULD since I have both MS Office and OO installed. But for some reason, my system doesn't seem to recognize that OO is installed. As may have been suggested [this assumes you are using windoze], you need to change the defaults for the default app to open a file when you click on it. See the previous posts in this thread [I don't use MS windoze and don't remember the exact procedure]. — jt - j...@jt-mj.net A computer is like air conditioning; it becomes useless when you open Windows. -Linus Torvalds - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: As to word processors suitable for the general user, my vote is for Microsoft Word. While, like most everyone on our Planet, I'd like the proverbial free lunch, I don't expect to get one. However, I found I can get MS Word to give me the text I want to type almost always. But when I use Writer, I keep getting something I have to constantly diddle with to get it to appear in the form I want. And, if I want something fancier than simple text, I can get that too with MS Word. I'd like Writer fine if only I could sit down at my computer prepare a document using it without constantly undoing all the things built into Writer that I've never figured out how to turn off or to modify. Of course I had to pay a somewhat steep price to get a WP that served my needs, but my time is valuable to me too, so the ease of use the reliability of MS Word seems well worth the cost in the long run. I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user
Sent from my mobile device. On 25 Jun 2015, at 8:10 am, Dale Erwin dale.er...@casaerwin.org wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:53 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote: As to word processors suitable for the general user, my vote is for Microsoft Word. While, like most everyone on our Planet, I'd like the proverbial free lunch, I don't expect to get one. However, I found I can get MS Word to give me the text I want to type almost always. But when I use Writer, I keep getting something I have to constantly diddle with to get it to appear in the form I want. And, if I want something fancier than simple text, I can get that too with MS Word. I'd like Writer fine if only I could sit down at my computer prepare a document using it without constantly undoing all the things built into Writer that I've never figured out how to turn off or to modify. Of course I had to pay a somewhat steep price to get a WP that served my needs, but my time is valuable to me too, so the ease of use the reliability of MS Word seems well worth the cost in the long run. I think if you would take the time to learn how to use styles you would find that Writer can be just as versatile as Word, if not moreso. I struggled against it for a long time before I finally broke down and made the time to learn how to use them. Dale Erwin And if you don't use styles you can create the same mess as with MS Word, they benefit of styles is that others can easily update your document without manually reformat everything. So, if you the only one working on the document and don't need to change it afterwards use the default style, otherwise learning styles will benefit on the long term. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OpenOffice update issue
Hi, I recently downloaded OpenOffice and when I check for updates this security warning is displayed(attached below). I've looked online and in the forum but cannot find anything specific to this security warning. Thank you! Brendan Sent from my iPhone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
