Re: end of Apache?

[Elaine]

Thank you Dennis!  I don't use open office as many other "super users" might 
but it definitely serves my purpose nicely.  Keep on doing the great job!


The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or 
coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill



-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton 
To: users 
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2016 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: end of Apache?



> -Original Message-
> From: Elaine [mailto:safire...@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 12:21
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Subject: Spam (7.262):Re: end of Apache?
> 
> I would be terribly saddened if I didn't have open office.
[orcmid] 

Yes, I think it would be a serious loss.  Not just for up to 50 million users, 
but also for the stability of the OpenDocument Format and for users who would 
be better served in the future.

At the same time, the practical limitations are what they are and it depends 
more on those who can develop the software and not so much on those who benefit 
freely from using it.

 - Dennis
> 
> 
> The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the
> buck or coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton 
> To: users 
> Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2016 1:19 pm
> Subject: RE: end of Apache?
> 
> The LWN article does include the entire message that kicked this off.
> 
> This discussion began on the d...@openoffice.apache.org list.
> You can find more information and discussion there.
> 
> There is another article already today that quotes from much of the dev@
> discussion,  technology/2016/09/openoffice-after-years-of-neglect-could-shut-down/>.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felmon davis [mailto:moelmoel2...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Felmon
> > Davis
> > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:39
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: end of Apache?
> >
> >
> > folks,
> >
> > the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:
> >
> > Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
> >
> > Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
> > Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible
> > at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache
> > OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which
> > there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In
> > responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by
> > the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy.
> > An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been
> > requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August,
> > rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that
> > must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for
> > the PMC's consideration among other possible options."
> >
> > more details at: 
> > I think the article is from 09/01/2016.
> >
> > f.
> >
> > --
> > Felmon Davis
> >
> >
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Re: sdk kit for windows 64 and for windows 32

[jd1008]

Thanx.
Got the src and the sdk.

Kind Regards,

JD

On 09/02/2016 02:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

jd1008 wrote:

Is there such a package?


You can get the SDK from https://www.openoffice.org/download/ (see 
right column); we only have one Windows build, so you won't find two 
versions - we produce a single 32-bit version that works on 32-bit and 
64-bit Windows.


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Re: sdk kit for windows 64 and for windows 32

[Andrea Pescetti]

jd1008 wrote:

Is there such a package?


You can get the SDK from https://www.openoffice.org/download/ (see right 
column); we only have one Windows build, so you won't find two versions 
- we produce a single 32-bit version that works on 32-bit and 64-bit 
Windows.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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sdk kit for windows 64 and for windows 32

[jd1008]

Is there such a package?

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Re: end of Apache?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

> -Original Message-
> From: Elaine [mailto:safire...@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 12:21
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
> Subject: Spam (7.262):Re: end of Apache?
> 
> I would be terribly saddened if I didn't have open office.
[orcmid] 

Yes, I think it would be a serious loss.  Not just for up to 50 million users, 
but also for the stability of the OpenDocument Format and for users who would 
be better served in the future.

At the same time, the practical limitations are what they are and it depends 
more on those who can develop the software and not so much on those who benefit 
freely from using it.

 - Dennis
> 
> 
> The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the
> buck or coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton 
> To: users 
> Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2016 1:19 pm
> Subject: RE: end of Apache?
> 
> The LWN article does include the entire message that kicked this off.
> 
> This discussion began on the d...@openoffice.apache.org list.
> You can find more information and discussion there.
> 
> There is another article already today that quotes from much of the dev@
> discussion,  technology/2016/09/openoffice-after-years-of-neglect-could-shut-down/>.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felmon davis [mailto:moelmoel2...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Felmon
> > Davis
> > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:39
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: end of Apache?
> >
> >
> > folks,
> >
> > the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:
> >
> > Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
> >
> > Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
> > Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible
> > at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache
> > OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which
> > there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In
> > responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by
> > the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy.
> > An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been
> > requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August,
> > rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that
> > must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for
> > the PMC's consideration among other possible options."
> >
> > more details at: 
> > I think the article is from 09/01/2016.
> >
> > f.
> >
> > --
> > Felmon Davis
> >
> >
> > -
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Re: end of Apache?

[jd1008]

On 09/02/2016 01:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Felmon Davis wrote:

Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible at
this point) shutdown of the project.


This was an exceptionally bad e-mail from Dennis, that was interpreted 
in an exceptionally misleading way by people who for some reason would 
profit from a wrong interpretation. I see it as a "what if" game, but 
a very bad one.


You can follow the discussion on the dev list and you will see that 
active developers are feeling disappointed by the message but are 
still thinking that the best solution is just to continue working on 
the next release as usual. This, of course, won't make news.


Regards,
  Andrea.

+1
In addition, every hardcore developer knows that windows, *nix'es and 
*nux'es
are full of backdoors to begin with - not only in the kernel, but in 
many other apps and libraries.


But hey ... it's the nature of the age we are living in.

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Re: end of Apache?

[Elaine]

I would be terribly saddened if I didn't have open office.


The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or 
coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill



-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton 
To: users 
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2016 1:19 pm
Subject: RE: end of Apache?

The LWN article does include the entire message that kicked this off.

This discussion began on the d...@openoffice.apache.org list.  
You can find more information and discussion there.  

There is another article already today that quotes from much of the dev@ 
discussion, 
.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: felmon davis [mailto:moelmoel2...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Felmon
> Davis
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:39
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: end of Apache?
> 
> 
> folks,
> 
> the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:
> 
> Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
> 
> Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
> Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible
> at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache
> OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which
> there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In
> responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by
> the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy.
> An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been
> requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August,
> rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that
> must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for
> the PMC's consideration among other possible options."
> 
> more details at: 
> I think the article is from 09/01/2016.
> 
> f.
> 
> --
> Felmon Davis
> 
> 
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RE: end of Apache?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The LWN article does include the entire message that kicked this off.

This discussion began on the d...@openoffice.apache.org list.  
You can find more information and discussion there.  

There is another article already today that quotes from much of the dev@ 
discussion, 
.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: felmon davis [mailto:moelmoel2...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Felmon
> Davis
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:39
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: end of Apache?
> 
> 
> folks,
> 
> the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:
> 
> Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
> 
> Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
> Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible
> at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache
> OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which
> there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In
> responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by
> the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy.
> An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been
> requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August,
> rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that
> must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for
> the PMC's consideration among other possible options."
> 
> more details at: 
> I think the article is from 09/01/2016.
> 
> f.
> 
> --
> Felmon Davis
> 
> 
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Re: end of Apache?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Felmon Davis wrote:

Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair
Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible at
this point) shutdown of the project.


This was an exceptionally bad e-mail from Dennis, that was interpreted 
in an exceptionally misleading way by people who for some reason would 
profit from a wrong interpretation. I see it as a "what if" game, but a 
very bad one.


You can follow the discussion on the dev list and you will see that 
active developers are feeling disappointed by the message but are still 
thinking that the best solution is just to continue working on the next 
release as usual. This, of course, won't make news.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: end of Apache?

[chuck ef]

Ugh! No!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> folks,
> 
> the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:
> 
> Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
> 
> Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair Dennis 
> Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible at this point) 
> shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache OpenOffice, needing to 
> disclose security vulnerabilities for which there is no mitigation in an 
> update has become a serious issue. In responses to concerns raised in June, 
> the PMC is currently tasked by the ASF Board to account for this inability 
> and to provide a remedy. An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's 
> concern is the PMC been requested to report to the Board every month, 
> starting in August, rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for 
> remedy that must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is 
> for the PMC's consideration among other possible options."
> 
> more details at: 
> I think the article is from 09/01/2016.
> 
> f.
> 
> -- 
> Felmon Davis
> 
> 
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end of Apache?

[Felmon Davis]

folks,

the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice:

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair 
Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible 
at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache 
OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which 
there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In 
responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by 
the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy. 
An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been 
requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August, 
rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that 
must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for 
the PMC's consideration among other possible options."


more details at: 
I think the article is from 09/01/2016.

f.

--
Felmon Davis


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