Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-24 Thread James Knott

Hameed Yussuph wrote:

James Knott wrote:

Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Hello again, More people are turning to mobile devices and looking 
at current trends, the document people still will be viewing on 
their mobiles; Symbian, BlackBerry and the ubiquitous Windows 
Mobile, are Microsoft proprietary document formats. If the ODF 
community is very serious (extremely serious) about dominating the 
landscape, then OpenOffice.org needs to consider a mobile version 
NOT PORTABLE VERSION.


You're confusing file formats (ODF) with applications (OpenOffice).  
There are many applications that work with ODF files, OpenOffice 
being but one of them.   There may very well be applications for 
those devices that support ODF.  For example, there will soon be 
AbiWord for the Nokia N800  N810 Internet Tablet.  AbiWord supports 
ODT files, at least in the desktop version.  ODT files are the ODF 
format for word processing.


Due to resource limitations, mobile applications tend to be light 
weight, which means they are stripped down, compared to full suites, 
such as OpenOffice.
I don't know about you, but besides when I view it on Nokia's website, 
I can't actually remember if  I have actually seen the two phones you 
mentioned above. When I talk about mobile devices, I mean that which 
the average Joseph uses. My point is, I for one would like to see 
OpenOffice Mobile (if there's going to be one). If mobile 
applications such as Quick Office can do the job effectively, I don't 
see why OpenOffice can't do the same.


The two devices I mentioned are not phones, though they do support voice 
over IP.  They are full, pocket sized computers, with browser, email and 
many other features.  As I mentioned writing for a mobile device means 
fewer resources are available, to the point where you are writing a new 
application, that may share some features with a larger one.  Given that 
OpenOffice is created and produced by volunteers, with help from some 
companies, I don't know that there will be someone available to create 
those applications.



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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-24 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 23/03/2008, Hameed Yussuph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Harold Fuchs wrote:
  On 22/03/2008 21:26, Hameed Yussuph wrote:
  Hello again, More people are turning to mobile devices and looking at
  current trends, the document people still will be viewing on their
  mobiles; Symbian, BlackBerry and the ubiquitous Windows Mobile, are
  Microsoft proprietary document formats. If the ODF community is very
  serious (extremely serious) about dominating the landscape, then
  OpenOffice.org needs to consider a mobile version NOT PORTABLE VERSION.
 
  MobileOffice for Symbian supports ODF. The status is  Generally
  works, but there are missing features. as per
  http://opendocumentfellowship.com/applications but, unfortunately,
  that document is not dated :-(
 

 Missing features, what good is that? Perhaps I'm being to forward.
 I'll keep an eye out for when OpenOffice decides to provide something
 for the mobile user. Thanks for the help. TTFN


I suppose it's a bit like Word Mobile; not everything that's in MS Office
for Windows 2000/XP/Vista is also in the Mobile version. For example, from
Wikipedia's entry for Word Mobile: Footnotes, endnotes, headers, footers,
page breaks, certain indentation of lists, and certain fonts, while not
displayed nor able to be inserted while working on a document in Word
Mobile, such features are retained if the original document has them. Also,
according to Microsoft, the functionality available in Mobile Office varies
from device to device.


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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-23 Thread Hameed Yussuph
Hello again, More people are turning to mobile devices and looking at 
current trends, the document people still will be viewing on their 
mobiles; Symbian, BlackBerry and the ubiquitous Windows Mobile, are 
Microsoft proprietary document formats. If the ODF community is very 
serious (extremely serious) about dominating the landscape, then 
OpenOffice.org needs to consider a mobile version NOT PORTABLE VERSION.



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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-23 Thread James Knott

Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Hello again, More people are turning to mobile devices and looking at 
current trends, the document people still will be viewing on their 
mobiles; Symbian, BlackBerry and the ubiquitous Windows Mobile, are 
Microsoft proprietary document formats. If the ODF community is very 
serious (extremely serious) about dominating the landscape, then 
OpenOffice.org needs to consider a mobile version NOT PORTABLE VERSION.


You're confusing file formats (ODF) with applications (OpenOffice).  
There are many applications that work with ODF files, OpenOffice being 
but one of them.   There may very well be applications for those devices 
that support ODF.  For example, there will soon be AbiWord for the Nokia 
N800  N810 Internet Tablet.  AbiWord supports ODT files, at least in 
the desktop version.  ODT files are the ODF format for word processing.


Due to resource limitations, mobile applications tend to be light 
weight, which means they are stripped down, compared to full suites, 
such as OpenOffice.

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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-23 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 23/03/2008 13:25, James Knott wrote:


You're confusing file formats (ODF) with applications (OpenOffice).  
There are many applications that work with ODF files, OpenOffice being 
but one of them.   


snip

Please, where can I find a good list of such applications?

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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-23 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 22/03/2008 21:26, Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Hello again, More people are turning to mobile devices and looking at 
current trends, the document people still will be viewing on their 
mobiles; Symbian, BlackBerry and the ubiquitous Windows Mobile, are 
Microsoft proprietary document formats. If the ODF community is very 
serious (extremely serious) about dominating the landscape, then 
OpenOffice.org needs to consider a mobile version NOT PORTABLE VERSION.


MobileOffice for Symbian supports ODF. The status is  Generally works, 
but there are missing features. as per 
http://opendocumentfellowship.com/applications but, unfortunately, that 
document is not dated :-(


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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-23 Thread James Knott

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 23/03/2008 13:25, James Knott wrote:


You're confusing file formats (ODF) with applications (OpenOffice).  
There are many applications that work with ODF files, OpenOffice 
being but one of them.   


snip

Please, where can I find a good list of such applications?

Off the top of my head, besides OpenOffice  StarOffice, there's 
KOffice, AbiWord, Gnumeric, Symphony, Lotus Notes, Google Apps, 
Gnumeric.  I suppose you could even include Microsoft Office, if you 
install the Sun ODF plugin.



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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-23 Thread Hameed Yussuph

James Knott wrote:

Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Hello again, More people are turning to mobile devices and looking at 
current trends, the document people still will be viewing on their 
mobiles; Symbian, BlackBerry and the ubiquitous Windows Mobile, are 
Microsoft proprietary document formats. If the ODF community is very 
serious (extremely serious) about dominating the landscape, then 
OpenOffice.org needs to consider a mobile version NOT PORTABLE VERSION.


You're confusing file formats (ODF) with applications (OpenOffice).  
There are many applications that work with ODF files, OpenOffice being 
but one of them.   There may very well be applications for those 
devices that support ODF.  For example, there will soon be AbiWord for 
the Nokia N800  N810 Internet Tablet.  AbiWord supports ODT files, at 
least in the desktop version.  ODT files are the ODF format for word 
processing.


Due to resource limitations, mobile applications tend to be light 
weight, which means they are stripped down, compared to full suites, 
such as OpenOffice.
I don't know about you, but besides when I view it on Nokia's website, I 
can't actually remember if  I have actually seen the two phones you 
mentioned above. When I talk about mobile devices, I mean that which the 
average Joseph uses. My point is, I for one would like to see 
OpenOffice Mobile (if there's going to be one). If mobile applications 
such as Quick Office can do the job effectively, I don't see why 
OpenOffice can't do the same.


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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-23 Thread Hameed Yussuph

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 22/03/2008 21:26, Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Hello again, More people are turning to mobile devices and looking at 
current trends, the document people still will be viewing on their 
mobiles; Symbian, BlackBerry and the ubiquitous Windows Mobile, are 
Microsoft proprietary document formats. If the ODF community is very 
serious (extremely serious) about dominating the landscape, then 
OpenOffice.org needs to consider a mobile version NOT PORTABLE VERSION.


MobileOffice for Symbian supports ODF. The status is  Generally 
works, but there are missing features. as per 
http://opendocumentfellowship.com/applications but, unfortunately, 
that document is not dated :-(


Missing features, what good is that? Perhaps I'm being to forward. 
I'll keep an eye out for when OpenOffice decides to provide something 
for the mobile user. Thanks for the help. TTFN


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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-21 Thread James Knott

Fred A. Miller wrote:

Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Is there any likelihood of a mobile version such as Quick Office or 
Microsoft Office for Windows Mobile


What do you mean by mobile? There is portable OO that will run on 
USB memory, if that's a help.


Fred

I think he was referring to the pocket size computers, as might run 
WINCE or PalmOS etc.


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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-20 Thread Fred A. Miller

Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Is there any likelihood of a mobile version such as Quick Office or 
Microsoft Office for Windows Mobile


What do you mean by mobile? There is portable OO that will run on USB 
memory, if that's a help.


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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-20 Thread James Knott

Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Is there any likelihood of a mobile version such as Quick Office or 
Microsoft Office for Windows Mobile




Since neither of those have anything to do with OpenOffice, you're 
asking in the wrong place.



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Re: [users] Mobile Office Suite

2008-03-20 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 20/03/2008 11:48, James Knott wrote:

Hameed Yussuph wrote:
Is there any likelihood of a mobile version such as Quick Office or 
Microsoft Office for Windows Mobile




Since neither of those have anything to do with OpenOffice, you're 
asking in the wrong place.



No he's not; he's asking if there is any likelihood of a Windows Mobile 
version of *OpenOffice* as there are of Quick Office and MS Office.


I am copying the Porting folk.

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