Re: [Users] Fedora upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2
Hi Karli, we're still working on it Il 02/04/2013 12:22, Karli Sjöberg ha scritto: Hi, has there been any progress regarding this matter? Best Regards Karli Sjöberg fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:12 + skrev Karli Sjöberg: fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:59 +0100 skrev Sandro Bonazzola: Il 13/03/2013 12:24, Karli Sjöberg ha scritto: ons 2013-03-13 klockan 12:00 +0100 skrev Dave Neary: Hi Karli, On 03/11/2013 12:16 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote: Hi, in the absence of any official path, we have started working out our own procedure for going from oVirt-3.1/Fedora 17 to oVirt-3.2/Fedora 18. Indeed, I have not seen any documentation in the wiki yet on upgrading oVirt - would you be interested in writing up your experiences there as a guide to others? Thanks! Dave. That was my intention to share a working procedure once it was complete but I unfortunately hit a wall at engine-upgrade. I would be very glad, and able to continue, if that obstacle could be lifted. My experience in upgrading from oVirt-3.1/Fedora 17 to oVirt-3.2/Fedora 18: On Fedora 17: Be sure to have the latest updates running: yum distro-sync Set exclude=ovirt* in /etc/yum.conf Execute: fedup --disablerepo=ovirt* --network 18 When you have a running Fedora 18: # systemctl list-units --failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUBDESCRIPTION httpd.service loaded failed failed The Apache HTTP Server postgresql.service loaded failed failed PostgreSQL database server # systemctl stop postgresql.service # tar cJvf pgsql-backup.tar.xz /var/lib/pgsql/data/ # yum install postgresql-upgrade # cp /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf /root/pg_hba.conf.ovirt edit /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf changing md5 to trust on the local line. # diff -u pg_hba.conf.ovirt pg_hba.conf --- pg_hba.conf.ovirt 2013-01-30 20:58:49.40400 +0100 +++ pg_hba.conf 2013-01-30 20:59:06.70900 +0100 @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ # TYPE DATABASEUSERADDRESS METHOD # local is for Unix domain socket connections only -local all all md5 +local all all trust # IPv4 local connections: hostall all 127.0.0.1/32md5 # IPv6 local connections: # postgresql-setup upgrade Redirecting to /bin/systemctl stop postgresql.service Upgrading database: OK See /var/lib/pgsql/pgupgrade.log for details. # cp /root/pg_hba.conf.ovirt /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf # systemctl postgrsql.service restart edit /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf: # diff -u ssl.conf.ovirt ssl.conf --- ssl.conf.ovirt 2013-01-30 21:21:06.90600 +0100 +++ ssl.conf2013-01-30 21:22:02.75700 +0100 @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ # consult the online docs. You have been warned. # -LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so +#LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so # # When we also provide SSL we have to listen to the @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ # Semaphore: # Configure the path to the mutual exclusion semaphore the # SSL engine uses internally for inter-process synchronization. -SSLMutex default +#SSLMutex default # Pseudo Random Number Generator (PRNG): # Configure one or more sources to seed the PRNG of the # /bin/systemctl restart httpd.service Remove the line exclude=ovirt* from /etc/yum.conf # yum update ovirt-engine-setup # engine-upgrade However, during the upgrade I've stepped into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906270 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906270 We are still working on the upgrade actions. Our procedures looks almost exactly the same, and we have gotten just as far as you have. Good to know. /Karli -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] SPM is always contending
After the node acting as spm was (accidentally) put into maintenance mode, the spm role is always contending. The original node doesnt take the role back either. About 10 instances were still running on the node when it was put into maintenance. I have ovirt 3.1.0-4 with a targetcli iscsi store. Here are the contents of the engine.log. Andy 2013-04-04 15:25:23,979 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SpmStartVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [5449512a] spmStart polling ended. spm status: Free 2013-04-04 15:25:23,993 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.HSMClearTaskVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [5449512a] START, HSMClearTaskVDSCommand(vd sId = d265245e-3cc5-11e2-bce7-001018fc3b14, taskId=7c1cf7c6-21d4-4504-882d-3d465742b6ef), log id: d2da8ba 2013-04-04 15:25:24,011 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.HSMClearTaskVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [5449512a] FINISH, HSMClearTaskVDSCommand, log id: d2da8ba 2013-04-04 15:25:24,012 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SpmStartVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [5449512a] FINISH, SpmStartVDSCommand, return: org.ovirt.engine.core.common.businessentities.SpmStatusResult@30a05218, log id: 5980d6f4 2013-04-04 15:25:24,014 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.storage.SetStoragePoolStatusCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] Running command: SetStoragePoolStat usCommand internal: true. Entities affected : ID: 0ba15357-9b3b-4a76-8dac-b2b66b922174 Type: StoragePool 2013-04-04 15:25:24,843 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IrsBrokerCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] IrsBroker::Failed::GetStoragePoolInfoV DS due to: IrsSpmStartFailedException: IRSGenericException: IRSErrorException: SpmStart failed 2013-04-04 15:25:24,900 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IrsBrokerCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] Irs placed on server null failed. Proc eed Failover 2013-04-04 15:25:34,977 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IrsBrokerCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] hostFromVds::selectedVds - moon-palace , spmStatus Free, storage pool Primary 2013-04-04 15:25:35,806 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IrsBrokerCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] starting spm on vds moon-palace, stora ge pool Primary, prevId -1, LVER 2520 2013-04-04 15:25:35,851 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SpmStartVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] START, SpmStartVDSCommand(vdsId = 3d 88c8b0-84bc-11e2-96b1-001018fc3b14, storagePoolId = 0ba15357-9b3b-4a76-8dac-b2b66b922174, prevId=-1, prevLVER=2520, storagePoolFormatType=V2, recoveryMode=Manual, SCSIF encing=false), log id: 30f4f64e 2013-04-04 15:25:45,901 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SpmStartVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] spmStart polling started: taskId = 6 8002cff-478d-4c2c-8839-b935d8a858b1 2013-04-04 15:26:11,903 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.VdsLoadBalancer] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-81) [45db3aaa] VdsLoadBalancer: Starting load balance for cluster: BP_ Primary, algorithm: EvenlyDistribute. 2013-04-04 15:26:12,807 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.VdsLoadBalancer] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-81) [45db3aaa] VdsLoadBalancer: high util: 51, low util: 0, duration: 2, threashold: 80 2013-04-04 15:26:12,845 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.VdsLoadBalancingAlgorithm] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-81) [45db3aaa] VdsLoadBalancer: number of relevant vdss (no migration, no pending): 3. 2013-04-04 15:26:12,846 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.VdsCpuVdsLoadBalancingAlgorithm] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-81) [45db3aaa] VdsLoadBalancer: number of over utilize d vdss found: 0. 2013-04-04 15:26:12,846 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.VdsCpuVdsLoadBalancingAlgorithm] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-81) [45db3aaa] VdsLoadBalancer: max cpu limit: 40, num ber of ready to migration vdss: 3 2013-04-04 15:26:19,024 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SpmStartVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] spmStart polling ended: taskId = 680 02cff-478d-4c2c-8839-b935d8a858b1 task status = finished 2013-04-04 15:26:19,024 ERROR [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SpmStartVDSCommand] (QuartzScheduler_Worker-96) [6d6dbe98] Start SPM Task failed - result: clea nSuccess, message: VDSGenericException: VDSErrorException: Failed in vdscommand to HSMGetTaskStatusVDS, error = BlockSD master file system FSCK error This log sequence repeats indefinitely ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] DNS reverse configuration
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 18:48 +, Chris Noffsinger wrote: I have successfully gotten samba4 to work with ovirt but I could not use the Administrator user. I had to create another admin user to. Get it to work. I can confirm that it's possible to use oVirt/RHEV with Samba 4 - tested RHEV 3.0/3.1 with Univention Corporate Server which is a SBS server on Linux base with Samba 4. For RHEV it's not recommended to use Administrator for Active Directory even if it works mostly. Did it several times where it worked fine with Microsoft Active Directory - not sure if I faced isses with Administrator user. But in general it's better to have an other user with admin permissions, as this will always work (if you set up DNS correctly). Regards, René Chris Noffsinger -Original Message- From: Eduardo Ramos edua...@freedominterface.org Sender: users-boun...@ovirt.org Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:45:36 To: users@ovirt.org Subject: [Users] DNS reverse configuration ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] DNS reverse configuration
Even though ovirt-engine did not tried connect to samba4, I used another user. The issue is that engine-manage-domains said not found PTR entry, although host/nslookup/dig command say the opposite. Is there any detail? On 04/04/2013 05:36 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Chris Noffsinger wrote: I have successfully gotten samba4 to work with ovirt but I could not use the Administrator user. I had to create another admin user to. Get it to work. Chris Noffsinger It is intended to be so and I think it is the right thing to separate respective roles. I had to do the same with FreeIPA. Gianluca ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] User Portal
On Tue, 2013-04-02 at 01:27 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: On 03/22/2013 04:55 PM, René Koch (ovido) wrote: Hi, If you login with PowerUser permission you have 2 tabs (Basic and Extended) where Basic is the UserPortal and Extended the PowerUserPortal. So you can switch between these 2 views. Btw, in RHEV (3.0 and 3.1) I see a (for me) strange behaviour and haven't tested if this is the same in oVirt. When installing RHEV a Default datacenter is created and everyone has permission on template blank. As long as I don't remove permissions on blank template user with role UserRole start in PowerUserPortal (Extended view) instead of UserPortal (Basic view) - without permission on template blank they can't switch between these 2 views/portals (which is the expected situation - users with UserPortal permission shouldn't be aware of the PowerUserPortal). Is this bug or intended? Regards, René On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 15:40 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: On 03/20/2013 03:26 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: BTW: RHEVM 3.1 portals (User Portal and Power User Portal) have been consolidated in the unique oVirt 3.2.x User Portal? Are they going to be consolidated in RHEVM 3.2 too? what do you mean by consolidated? (in any case, there is no difference between ovirt and rhev on this) Sorry I misunderstood. Both normal and power users access the User Portal at https://server.example.com/UserPortal but if a user has RHEVMPowerUser role (in RHEVM 3.1) or probably the system related role named PowerUserRole (in oVirt) what he/she gets is the Power User Portal and not the normal User Portal, correct? Gianluca ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users i believe a bug, would appreciate if you can test on latest 3.3 nightly. I'll try it with 3.3 nightly and will let you know. Can I virtualize an oVirt 3.3 hypervisor on an oVirt 3.2 host based on CentOS 6.4 (does RHEL 6.4/CentOS 6.4 support nested KVM or do I have to use Fedora 18?) as I'm short with hardware at the moment? Regards, René ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] DNS reverse configuration
Hello everybody, Is there some howto or some procedure to connect Samba4 to oVirt 3.1 and what components are necessary to install and configure?, René, can you post all steps to configure it to have oVirt working with Sanba 4, please? Many thanks in avanced, Juanjo. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Eduardo Ramos edua...@freedominterface.orgwrote: Even though ovirt-engine did not tried connect to samba4, I used another user. The issue is that engine-manage-domains said not found PTR entry, although host/nslookup/dig command say the opposite. Is there any detail? On 04/04/2013 05:36 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Chris Noffsinger wrote: I have successfully gotten samba4 to work with ovirt but I could not use the Administrator user. I had to create another admin user to. Get it to work. Chris Noffsinger It is intended to be so and I think it is the right thing to separate respective roles. I had to do the same with FreeIPA. Gianluca __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/**mailman/listinfo/usershttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] DNS for IPA in oVirt
Hi list, I don't want to ask my question in the mail thread of Eduardo to avoid mixing topics. Can you give me more detailed information on how oVirt is using DNS internally and how IPA users can work in the following scenario: # engine-manage-domains -action=list Domain: ovido.at User name: ad...@ovido.at Manage Domains completed successfully # cat /etc/hosts | grep engine 10.0.100.195 ovirt-engine.lab.ovido.at # ip a 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:1a:4a:00:64:14 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.100.195/24 brd 10.0.100.255 scope global eth0 # host ovirt-engine.lab.ovido.at ovirt-engine.lab.ovido.at has address 10.0.100.24 # host 10.0.100.24 24.100.0.10.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer ovirt-engine.lab.ovido.at. So in my case I have correct DNS settings (forward and reverse), but my ovirt-engine host has a totally different IP address. I didn't test SSO with Kerberos in user portal (maybe this want work), but authentication with IPA user in user portal and admin portal is working fine even with these totally wrong DNS configuration. Regards, René ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Fast way to see all snapshots on my infra?
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 11:41 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:07 PM, René Koch (ovido) wrote: Two questions: 1) On my all-in-one system with f18 + oVirt stable 3.2.1 I have ovirt-engine-3.2.1-1.fc18.noarch ovirt-engine-cli-3.2.0.11-1.fc18.noarch when I run ovirt-shell I get connected to oVirt manager 3.2.0.0 so this banner refers to ovirt-shell itself and not the engine itself, I presume... correct? It seems that this banner does reflect the oVirt/RHEV major version. Connecting to RHEV 3.1 with ovirt-shell (from oVirt 3.2 package) gives me the following banner: == connected to oVirt manager 3.1.0.0 == oVirt 3.2.1 says connected to oVirt manager 3.2.0.0 2) If I have one VM with one snapshot the beginning of the output is: == connected to oVirt manager 3.2.0.0 == id : f916e1a3-13bc-43e8-8187-65a1ab9163c8 description: Active VM date : 2013-03-01T00:31:20.898+01:00 snapshot_status: ok type : active id : 5a623a18-11eb-455b-9791-680795a23f8e description : test date : 2013-03-22T01:08:50.038+01:00 ... Then I create another snapshot and I get: == connected to oVirt manager 3.2.0.0 == id : c714182a-46e2-4a85-b7db-1b74542b202c description: Active VM date : 2013-03-01T00:31:20.898+01:00 snapshot_status: ok type : active id : 5a623a18-11eb-455b-9791-680795a23f8e description : test date : 2013-03-22T01:08:50.038+01:00 ... id : f916e1a3-13bc-43e8-8187-65a1ab9163c8 description : test2 date : 2013-03-23T11:27:21.931+01:00 snapshot_status : ok ... If the first id value in first 5 lines refers to VM itself, why does it change between first run with one snapshot (value f916e1a3-13bc-43e8-8187-65a1ab9163c8) and the second run (value c714182a-46e2-4a85-b7db-1b74542b202c) btw the id of first run matches the id assigned to the second snapshot in second run (test2)? Sorry, I've no idea :( Thanks, Gianluca ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] DNS reverse configuration
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 14:21 +0200, Juan Jose wrote: Hello everybody, Is there some howto or some procedure to connect Samba4 to oVirt 3.1 and what components are necessary to install and configure?, René, can you post all steps to configure it to have oVirt working with Sanba 4, please? Sorry, can't give you detailed information on how to create a Samba 4 directory (use UCS appliance) - there is plenty of documentation in the internet on how to do that. To connect oVirt to your existing Samba domain, use the DNS server from your samba server on your ovirt-engine host (don't do replication to external bind servers, as this causes some issues). You have to make sure, that you have valid forward (A) and reverse (PTR) DNS entries for your ovirt-engine host and SRV records for LDAP, Kerberos,... (but these should be created by default and are required for your Windows clients, too). You can join your Samba4 domain with engine-manage-domains -provider=ActiveDirectory ... I hope this helps you a bit. Many thanks in avanced, Juanjo. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Eduardo Ramos edua...@freedominterface.org wrote: Even though ovirt-engine did not tried connect to samba4, I used another user. The issue is that engine-manage-domains said not found PTR entry, although host/nslookup/dig command say the opposite. Is there any detail? On 04/04/2013 05:36 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Chris Noffsinger wrote: I have successfully gotten samba4 to work with ovirt but I could not use the Administrator user. I had to create another admin user to. Get it to work. Chris Noffsinger It is intended to be so and I think it is the right thing to separate respective roles. I had to do the same with FreeIPA. Gianluca ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] DNS reverse configuration
I wish that I had documented it, because I have now reinstalled that management server. But I do believe that I had to put my realms manually into /etc/krb5.conf to get it to work. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Juan Jose jj197...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, Is there some howto or some procedure to connect Samba4 to oVirt 3.1 and what components are necessary to install and configure?, René, can you post all steps to configure it to have oVirt working with Sanba 4, please? Many thanks in avanced, Juanjo. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Eduardo Ramos edua...@freedominterface.org wrote: Even though ovirt-engine did not tried connect to samba4, I used another user. The issue is that engine-manage-domains said not found PTR entry, although host/nslookup/dig command say the opposite. Is there any detail? On 04/04/2013 05:36 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Chris Noffsinger wrote: I have successfully gotten samba4 to work with ovirt but I could not use the Administrator user. I had to create another admin user to. Get it to work. Chris Noffsinger It is intended to be so and I think it is the right thing to separate respective roles. I had to do the same with FreeIPA. Gianluca __**_ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/**mailman/listinfo/usershttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Chris Noffsinger ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Custom columns in VM list (engine admin) ?
Hi Ernest,
as suggested by Oved, I definitely recommend to check out oVirt UI Plugins
feature first.
From API perspective, here's what you can currently do with UI Plugins:
- add custom {main|sub} tab, modify its content URL, set its accessibility
- add custom {button|contextMenuItem|both} to existing data grid
- show custom dialog, modify its content URL, close the dialog
Custom columns in existing WebAdmin data grids is an interesting requirement
for UI Plugins, we should consider implementing it.
Plugin API proposal:
api.addMainTabTextColumn(
// entityTypeName
'VirtualMachine',
// headerText
'My Column',
// columnInterface
{
getValue: function(entity) {
// In this case, entity is VM.
// Return value should be string.
return 'test-' + entity.id;
},
width: '200px'
}
);
(Similar thing could be done for other kinds of columns, e.g. percentage
column.)
For custom columns whose values are computed asynchronously, we could support
API such as:
api.redrawMainTabTable('VirtualMachine');
Regards,
Vojtech
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfalli ov...@redhat.com
To: Ernest Beinrohr ernest.beinr...@axonpro.sk
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Custom columns in VM list (engine admin) ?
Hi Ernest.
It is not possible to do so at the moment.
What you can do is add sub-tabs that will be opened when you stand on a VM on
the VM list.
In that sub-tab you can point to some URL, and show the data you need over
there, according to the selected VM.
More information of the UI plugins feature (which allows you to do the above)
is in:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins
It also includes some examples.
Hope it helps,
Oved
- Original Message -
From: Ernest Beinrohr ernest.beinr...@axonpro.sk
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:06:48 PM
Subject: [Users] Custom columns in VM list (engine admin) ?
Hi, is it possible to add columns to the VM list view in
ovirt-engine administrator? I'd like to add a memory
columns (max, current) and also some IO stats and.
In RHEL 5 virt-manager show something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/e18DJtf.png
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