Re: How to deal with bounce messages

2022-04-25 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 03:48:01PM +0300, Henrik K wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 02:21:49PM +0200, Giovanni Bechis wrote:
> > KAM.cf has already all the needed glue, if you update to trunk and enable 
> > DMARC plugin, DMARC rules will use new plugin code.
> >  Giovannin
> 
> KAM.cf is not from SA project, not everyone uses it..  the DMARC stuff
> should be implemented in stock rules for 4.0.0.

Committed to stock rules:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk/rules/25_dmarc.cf

Please someone double check that it looks usable, my covid brain can only do
so much right now.  Automatic updates are still on pause for a few days due
to welcomelist changes, so it's not going live yet.  Trunk is getting very
near to 4.0.0 pre-releases, so if people could actually install and test it,
would be great..



Re: How to deal with bounce messages

2022-04-25 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 02:21:49PM +0200, Giovanni Bechis wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 12:50:49PM +0300, Henrik K wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:48:52AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > > > > >> >https://pastebin.com/s032ndrA
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >It's not only hitting DMARC_REJ_NO_DKIM and DMARC_FAIL_REJECT, but
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> where did you get these from?
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 22.04.22 10:02, Alex wrote:
> > > > > >I just realized these are from my local rules, put together from a
> > > > > >conversation many years ago, apparently from before SA had built-in
> > > > > >DMARC support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >https://www.mail-archive.com/users@spamassassin.apache.org/msg95643.html
> > > 
> > > > > now I really wonder why these aren't part of stock SA rules.
> > > 
> > > On 24.04.22 14:39, Alex wrote:
> > > > Does this mean you are investigating further?
> > > 
> > > not me, as I'm not involved in SA deployment more than by being active 
> > > here.
> > > perhaps you could fill a wishlist report...
> > > 
> > > > Are these rules from the link above useful?
> > > 
> > > looks like they are. KAM.cf contains similar rules, but having them in 
> > > stock
> > > SA would be nice.
> > 
> > Soon released 4.0.0 already has a dedicated DMARC plugin, such rules should
> > become obsolete.  Testers would be appreciated..
> > 
> KAM.cf has already all the needed glue, if you update to trunk and enable 
> DMARC plugin, DMARC rules will use new plugin code.
>  Giovannin

KAM.cf is not from SA project, not everyone uses it..  the DMARC stuff
should be implemented in stock rules for 4.0.0.



Re: How to deal with bounce messages

2022-04-25 Thread Giovanni Bechis
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 12:50:49PM +0300, Henrik K wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:48:52AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > > > >> >https://pastebin.com/s032ndrA
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >It's not only hitting DMARC_REJ_NO_DKIM and DMARC_FAIL_REJECT, but
> > > > >>
> > > > >> where did you get these from?
> > > > 
> > > > On 22.04.22 10:02, Alex wrote:
> > > > >I just realized these are from my local rules, put together from a
> > > > >conversation many years ago, apparently from before SA had built-in
> > > > >DMARC support.
> > > > >
> > > > >https://www.mail-archive.com/users@spamassassin.apache.org/msg95643.html
> > 
> > > > now I really wonder why these aren't part of stock SA rules.
> > 
> > On 24.04.22 14:39, Alex wrote:
> > > Does this mean you are investigating further?
> > 
> > not me, as I'm not involved in SA deployment more than by being active here.
> > perhaps you could fill a wishlist report...
> > 
> > > Are these rules from the link above useful?
> > 
> > looks like they are. KAM.cf contains similar rules, but having them in stock
> > SA would be nice.
> 
> Soon released 4.0.0 already has a dedicated DMARC plugin, such rules should
> become obsolete.  Testers would be appreciated..
> 
KAM.cf has already all the needed glue, if you update to trunk and enable DMARC 
plugin, DMARC rules will use new plugin code.
 Giovannin


Re: How to deal with bounce messages

2022-04-25 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:48:52AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > > >> >https://pastebin.com/s032ndrA
> > > >> >
> > > >> >It's not only hitting DMARC_REJ_NO_DKIM and DMARC_FAIL_REJECT, but
> > > >>
> > > >> where did you get these from?
> > > 
> > > On 22.04.22 10:02, Alex wrote:
> > > >I just realized these are from my local rules, put together from a
> > > >conversation many years ago, apparently from before SA had built-in
> > > >DMARC support.
> > > >
> > > >https://www.mail-archive.com/users@spamassassin.apache.org/msg95643.html
> 
> > > now I really wonder why these aren't part of stock SA rules.
> 
> On 24.04.22 14:39, Alex wrote:
> > Does this mean you are investigating further?
> 
> not me, as I'm not involved in SA deployment more than by being active here.
> perhaps you could fill a wishlist report...
> 
> > Are these rules from the link above useful?
> 
> looks like they are. KAM.cf contains similar rules, but having them in stock
> SA would be nice.

Soon released 4.0.0 already has a dedicated DMARC plugin, such rules should
become obsolete.  Testers would be appreciated..



Re: How to deal with bounce messages

2022-04-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

>> >https://pastebin.com/s032ndrA
>> >
>> >It's not only hitting DMARC_REJ_NO_DKIM and DMARC_FAIL_REJECT, but
>>
>> where did you get these from?

On 22.04.22 10:02, Alex wrote:
>I just realized these are from my local rules, put together from a
>conversation many years ago, apparently from before SA had built-in
>DMARC support.
>
>https://www.mail-archive.com/users@spamassassin.apache.org/msg95643.html



now I really wonder why these aren't part of stock SA rules.


On 24.04.22 14:39, Alex wrote:

Does this mean you are investigating further?


not me, as I'm not involved in SA deployment more than by being active here.
perhaps you could fill a wishlist report...


Are these rules from the link above useful?


looks like they are. KAM.cf contains similar rules, but having them in stock 
SA would be nice.



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