Re: embedded Tomcat (5.5.23) application logging (java.util.logging)

2007-10-13 Thread Johnny Kewl


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this is an example

   private static org.apache.juli.logging.Log log=
   org.apache.juli.logging.LogFactory.getLog( 
IntrospectionUtils.class );



as soon as that statement is executed, the logging gets initialized.
as you can see, it is a static field, so when you run Tomcat embedded, 
before any classes are loaded (that would lead to initialization), you 
must set those properties.


as you can see, the Embedded class also does this

public class Embedded  extends StandardService implements Lifecycle {
   private static Log log = LogFactory.getLog(Embedded.class);

meaning, if you have references to embedded in your public static void 
main(String[] args) class, then it's too late to set the system 
properties at that time


Filip


Hi Filip... maybe you can help me here...
Its actually not that I'm starting TC then doing the 
System.setProperty I do props first.
I'm using the 6.0.13 code and when I search it for 
java.util.logging.manager ... ie to see where it actualy reads this 
property, I can find it anywhere.


For example in ClassLoaderLogManager... there is the this line for getting 
the prop to the config file...
String configFileStr = 
System.getProperty(java.util.logging.config.file);


BUT there seems to be no similar line to read this property...
System.setProperty(java.util.logging.manager, 
org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager);


So the problem seems to be that nowhere does the TC code read this 
property??
Its like I got a missing class... or theres a precompiled class that must 
be included I dont understand this???


I think this is the problem... guessing here
This java.util.logging.manager is part of Java, not Tomcat...
So on the command line as Java starts it inits this...
So I think even if this property is set as the 1st line in your code, its 
too late.

The app has started and so Command line options are missed.
TC then calls this Logger.getLogger... and finds no 
ClassLoaderLogManager set.


The console must be set in TC somewhere because that still works... it seems 
that when

ClassLoaderLogManager is not set, no log files will be recorded...
I think one has to tell java.util.logging.Logger to use 
ClassLoaderLogManager directly in the embedded program...


Hopefully a Guru helps the original user here...

... and as I said before, all I did in the end was trap the console output, 
display it in the app and if I want a LOG file, I'll just write it out to 
one... it just gets too complicated, trying to figure out how TC redirects 
streams, and manages log options in an embedded app...
If it does work then it also redirects standard output, so if you get the 
logs going then I think you can kiss displaying messages directly to the 
user, through the app goodbye... I dont know... I just avoid TC's logging.


Good Luck Thats my best shot... I officially give up ;)



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Re: embedded Tomcat (5.5.23) application logging (java.util.logging)

2007-10-13 Thread Johnny Kewl


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From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: embedded Tomcat (5.5.23) application logging 
(java.util.logging)




this is an example

   private static org.apache.juli.logging.Log log=
   org.apache.juli.logging.LogFactory.getLog( 
IntrospectionUtils.class );



as soon as that statement is executed, the logging gets initialized.
as you can see, it is a static field, so when you run Tomcat embedded, 
before any classes are loaded (that would lead to initialization), you 
must set those properties.


as you can see, the Embedded class also does this

public class Embedded  extends StandardService implements Lifecycle {
   private static Log log = LogFactory.getLog(Embedded.class);

meaning, if you have references to embedded in your public static void 
main(String[] args) class, then it's too late to set the system 
properties at that time


Filip


Hi Filip... maybe you can help me here...
Its actually not that I'm starting TC then doing the 
System.setProperty I do props first.
I'm using the 6.0.13 code and when I search it for 
java.util.logging.manager ... ie to see where it actualy reads this 
property, I can find it anywhere.


For example in ClassLoaderLogManager... there is the this line for 
getting the prop to the config file...
String configFileStr = 
System.getProperty(java.util.logging.config.file);


BUT there seems to be no similar line to read this property...
System.setProperty(java.util.logging.manager, 
org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager);


So the problem seems to be that nowhere does the TC code read this 
property??
Its like I got a missing class... or theres a precompiled class that must 
be included I dont understand this???


I think this is the problem... guessing here
This java.util.logging.manager is part of Java, not Tomcat...
So on the command line as Java starts it inits this...
So I think even if this property is set as the 1st line in your code, its 
too late.

The app has started and so Command line options are missed.
TC then calls this Logger.getLogger... and finds no 
ClassLoaderLogManager set.


The console must be set in TC somewhere because that still works... it 
seems that when

ClassLoaderLogManager is not set, no log files will be recorded...
I think one has to tell java.util.logging.Logger to use 
ClassLoaderLogManager directly in the embedded program...


Hopefully a Guru helps the original user here...

... and as I said before, all I did in the end was trap the console 
output, display it in the app and if I want a LOG file, I'll just write it 
out to one... it just gets too complicated, trying to figure out how TC 
redirects streams, and manages log options in an embedded app...
If it does work then it also redirects standard output, so if you get the 
logs going then I think you can kiss displaying messages directly to the 
user, through the app goodbye... I dont know... I just avoid TC's logging.


Good Luck Thats my best shot... I officially give up ;)


Ah... I think I'm onto it...
Have a look at this link...
http://www.vsj.co.uk/java/display.asp?id=319

Have a look at this section
// set default logger and realm
FileLogger fileLog = new FileLogger();
fileLog.setDirectory(.);
fileLog.setPrefix(vsjMbedTC5);
fileLog.setSuffix(.log);
fileLog.setTimestamp(true);
mbedTC5.setLogger(fileLog);

See the guy is setting up a simple logger... which I think does mean the
System.setProperty(java.util.logging.manager, 
org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager);

property is in fact useless in an embedded app

Ok now I  officially give up ;)



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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Johnny Kewl


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Subject: Copying large files around


What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 1GB [yes, 
that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under tomcat 
5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a large 
byte[] array?  Or what?


What a cool question I've never had the need to move such big files but 
this is what I would do...


First look at this link 
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=226413messageID=818728


It will give you the basic streaming model ie a POST on the browser side 
starts sucking down the file from the servlet...
So in effect you do not have to worry about the whole file been buffered... 
it will move across the wire in say 4k blocks.


OK... now if you on a LAN... thats cool, but for the internet this is not 
good enough...


If you have a look at something like the Opera browser's file transfer it 
does some cool things, like if you shut down the machine, next time you 
start up again, it will pick up where you stopped it, it doesnt start with 
the whole 1 gb file again
In fact if I built a servlet to do this... I would run the Opera browser 
download against it and stop and start and see it my servlet is to spec...


I think the way to do it is to to modify the code in that link for RANDOM 
file access... ie the client knows its got 800 MB already and only asks for 
800MB onwards so how do they do that.


Look at this link. 
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html
and look at the byte range header spec. I would build the servlet to 
that.


With such large files I think the biggest problem to solve is 
interruptions ie give the user the ability to close the client and go 
home... tomorrow it starts where it left off. I think file change 
headers (almost RSS) type stuff comes into this as well, in case the file is 
modified before it all downloaded, in which case it MUST start again


Nice question I'm surprized I cant find code like this on the web 
already have a good look around it must be there.


You could also add compression to it... and I think GZIP is an option in TC 
already, or you can just compress the blocks as they go...
If its a JPG or GIF dont bother with compression it already is nice 
little project


Good Luck


















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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Johnny Kewl


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Subject: Copying large files around


What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 1GB [yes, 
that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under 
tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a 
large byte[] array?  Or what?


What a cool question I've never had the need to move such big files 
but this is what I would do...


First look at this link 
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=226413messageID=818728


It will give you the basic streaming model ie a POST on the browser 
side starts sucking down the file from the servlet...
So in effect you do not have to worry about the whole file been 
buffered... it will move across the wire in say 4k blocks.


OK... now if you on a LAN... thats cool, but for the internet this is not 
good enough...


If you have a look at something like the Opera browser's file transfer it 
does some cool things, like if you shut down the machine, next time you 
start up again, it will pick up where you stopped it, it doesnt start with 
the whole 1 gb file again
In fact if I built a servlet to do this... I would run the Opera browser 
download against it and stop and start and see it my servlet is to spec...


I think the way to do it is to to modify the code in that link for RANDOM 
file access... ie the client knows its got 800 MB already and only asks 
for 800MB onwards so how do they do that.


Look at this link. 
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html
and look at the byte range header spec. I would build the servlet to 
that.


With such large files I think the biggest problem to solve is 
interruptions ie give the user the ability to close the client and go 
home... tomorrow it starts where it left off. I think file change 
headers (almost RSS) type stuff comes into this as well, in case the file 
is modified before it all downloaded, in which case it MUST start 
again


Nice question I'm surprized I cant find code like this on the web 
already have a good look around it must be there.


You could also add compression to it... and I think GZIP is an option in 
TC already, or you can just compress the blocks as they go...
If its a JPG or GIF dont bother with compression it already is 
nice little project


Good Luck


AFTER-THOUGHT
You know, these TC guys are frightening clever chaps ;)
I would not be surprized at all if the DEFAULT servlet already does all this 
already.


Never tried it but I would test Opera against the DEFAULT servlet (ie you do 
nothing but put the file in TC no code)


If it works but you need to extend that to folders outside of Tomcat 
steal the DEAFULT servlet and just modify it ;)




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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Johnny Kewl


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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:56 AM
Subject: Copying large files around


What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 1GB [yes, 
that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under 
tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a 
large byte[] array?  Or what?


What a cool question I've never had the need to move such big files 
but this is what I would do...


First look at this link 
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=226413messageID=818728


It will give you the basic streaming model ie a POST on the browser 
side starts sucking down the file from the servlet...
So in effect you do not have to worry about the whole file been 
buffered... it will move across the wire in say 4k blocks.


OK... now if you on a LAN... thats cool, but for the internet this is not 
good enough...


If you have a look at something like the Opera browser's file transfer it 
does some cool things, like if you shut down the machine, next time you 
start up again, it will pick up where you stopped it, it doesnt start 
with the whole 1 gb file again
In fact if I built a servlet to do this... I would run the Opera browser 
download against it and stop and start and see it my servlet is to 
spec...


I think the way to do it is to to modify the code in that link for RANDOM 
file access... ie the client knows its got 800 MB already and only asks 
for 800MB onwards so how do they do that.


Look at this link. 
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html
and look at the byte range header spec. I would build the servlet to 
that.


With such large files I think the biggest problem to solve is 
interruptions ie give the user the ability to close the client and go 
home... tomorrow it starts where it left off. I think file change 
headers (almost RSS) type stuff comes into this as well, in case the file 
is modified before it all downloaded, in which case it MUST start 
again


Nice question I'm surprized I cant find code like this on the web 
already have a good look around it must be there.


You could also add compression to it... and I think GZIP is an option in 
TC already, or you can just compress the blocks as they go...
If its a JPG or GIF dont bother with compression it already is 
nice little project


Good Luck


AFTER-THOUGHT
You know, these TC guys are frightening clever chaps ;)
I would not be surprized at all if the DEFAULT servlet already does all 
this already.


Never tried it but I would test Opera against the DEFAULT servlet (ie you 
do nothing but put the file in TC no code)


If it works but you need to extend that to folders outside of Tomcat 
steal the DEAFULT servlet and just modify it ;)


Save you some trouble Yes the DEFAULT servlet already supports Etags and 
File Offsets... so there you go Thanks Tomcat!


At most you need to make the client... or just use Opera ;) 



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How to get the context path during servlet load?

2007-10-13 Thread Zsolt Koppany
Hi,

I want to make the application contextPath independent. Normally this is not
a problem because I can use request.getContextPath() however I need to know
the contextPath during startup:

servlet
servlet-namestartup/servlet-name
servlet-class.../servlet-class
load-on-startup1/load-on-startup
/servlet
/servlet

How can I do that?

Zsolt 


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2 Tomcat

2007-10-13 Thread lissette


Hi!

I would like to put to run two tomcat at the same time ( tomcat 5.5 and
tomcat 5.0 jwsdp), Is it possible? 
I try to change the port of one tomcat (8080 for 8009) but do not working
the two tomcat at time. 
Could someone help me?

Thanks very much.
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Re: 2 Tomcat

2007-10-13 Thread Markus Schönhaber
lissette wrote:

 I would like to put to run two tomcat at the same time ( tomcat 5.5 and
 tomcat 5.0 jwsdp), Is it possible? 

Yes.

 I try to change the port of one tomcat (8080 for 8009) but do not working
 the two tomcat at time. 

You have to make sure that *all* ports are different. Especially, don't
forget the shutdown port (by default 8005).

Regards
  mks

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Re: How to get the context path during servlet load?

2007-10-13 Thread Pid

if you mean during the init() method:


/*
 * (non-Javadoc)
 * @see javax.servlet.GenericServlet#init(javax.servlet.ServletConfig)
 */
@Override
public void init(ServletConfig config) throws ServletException {
//
ServletContext context = config.getServletContext();
String path = context.getContextPath();

super.init(config);
}


Zsolt Koppany wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I want to make the application contextPath independent. Normally this is not
 a problem because I can use request.getContextPath() however I need to know
 the contextPath during startup:
 
 servlet
   servlet-namestartup/servlet-name
   servlet-class.../servlet-class
   load-on-startup1/load-on-startup
   /servlet
 /servlet
 
 How can I do that?
 
 Zsolt 
 
 
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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Pid
David Kerber wrote:
 What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 1GB [yes,
 that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under
 tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a
 large byte[] array?  Or what?

I think that the NIO apis were intended to handle speedier transfers of
data across network connections.

It depends how you wish to move the data.  Google provided a wealth of
results of mixed tutorials and API explanations for java nio.

p



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Re: Second webapp lib folder

2007-10-13 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
Russ,

1. I think that configuring /WEB-INF/lib2 is not possible. The spec
has no provision for it.

2. You may place all these jars into shared jars folder in tomcat configuration,
and exclude them from your war.

In tomcat 5.5.x, the place is ${catalina.base}/shared/lib/

See
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/class-loader-howto.html

3. If you really need it, the location of the /shared/lib folder can
be configured.
E.g. it can be split into several ones, like ${catalina.base}/common/
is split into
several folders.

You do this by modifying classloaders configuration in
catalina.properties file.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread David Kerber

Pid wrote:

David Kerber wrote:
  

What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 1GB [yes,
that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under
tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a
large byte[] array?  Or what?



I think that the NIO apis were intended to handle speedier transfers of
data across network connections.

It depends how you wish to move the data.  Google provided a wealth of
results of mixed tutorials and API explanations for java nio.

p
  
Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my 
webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server 
to a backup server on the LAN.  This particular function does not use 
the internet, it's strictly copying on the LAN.  I don't care what 
method it uses as long as it's fairly simple to code, and moves fast.  
I've already got the creation of the backup file handled; that's a 
database function.  It's just the copying to another machine that I'm 
working on now.


D



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RE: embedded Tomcat (5.5.23) application logging (java.util.logging)

2007-10-13 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: embedded Tomcat (5.5.23) application logging 
 (java.util.logging)
 
 This java.util.logging.manager is part of Java, not Tomcat...
 So on the command line as Java starts it inits this...
 So I think even if this property is set as the 1st line in 
 your code, its too late.

All the above is correct.  See the API doc for
java.util.logging.LogManager.  The static initializer for that class
uses either an instanced of itself or an instance of the class named on
the aforementioned system property.  Thus, you need to set
java.util.logging.manager prior to initializing the JVM.

Possible solutions:

1) Make sure the system property is set on the command line for the
launcher.

2) Write your own launcher that sets the property then initializes a JVM
via JNI (thereby sacrificing platform independence).

3) Start the embedded Tomcat in a child JVM, so its system properties
can be set beforehand.  Use java.lang.ProcessBuilder or
java.lang.Runtime#exec.

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
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David,

David Kerber wrote:
 Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my
 webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
 to a backup server on the LAN.

Uh cron and cp, anyone? You can even use cron to initiate the
backup, too, instead of scripting it from your webapp.

Why doesn't anyone use cron anymore? Sheesh...

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Re: How to get the context path during servlet load?

2007-10-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Pid,

Pid wrote:
 ServletContext context = config.getServletContext();
   String path = context.getContextPath();

I can't remember if this is the same thread (the original message has
fallen off my list queue), but I thought the OP was using Servlet API
2.4, which does not have this method. :(

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Jim Cox
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 David Kerber wrote:
  Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my
  webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
  to a backup server on the LAN.

 Uh cron and cp, anyone? You can even use cron to initiate the
 backup, too, instead of scripting it from your webapp.

Or in this case scp (or rcp, or sftp, or ftp) ?

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread David Kerber

Christopher Schultz wrote:

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David,

David Kerber wrote:
  

Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my
webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
to a backup server on the LAN.



Uh cron and cp, anyone? You can even use cron to initiate the
backup, too, instead of scripting it from your webapp.

Why doesn't anyone use cron anymore? Sheesh...
  
Does Windows 2003 server have a version of cron?  I've never used it.  
And building it into my webapp lets all the configuration be done from 
the same interface..


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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread PTS
Yes. It has AT (command line) and a scheduler (GUI). You can do a batch file 
and set it to run at a certain time, day and frequency. I had a client that 
I setup the dhcp service to stop, copy the database over to a backup 
directory and then restart the service in a batch file. Then I called it 
every night before the tape backup ran.

AT is a lot lighter than Scheduler so using it is preferable.

Doug

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David Kerber wrote:


Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my
webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
to a backup server on the LAN.



Uh cron and cp, anyone? You can even use cron to initiate the
backup, too, instead of scripting it from your webapp.

Why doesn't anyone use cron anymore? Sheesh...

Does Windows 2003 server have a version of cron?  I've never used it.  And 
building it into my webapp lets all the configuration be done from the 
same interface..


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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Johnny Kewl


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David,

David Kerber wrote:


Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my
webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
to a backup server on the LAN.



Uh cron and cp, anyone? You can even use cron to initiate the
backup, too, instead of scripting it from your webapp.

Why doesn't anyone use cron anymore? Sheesh...

Does Windows 2003 server have a version of cron?  I've never used it.  And 
building it into my webapp lets all the configuration be done from the 
same interface..


No not that I know of... but there are freeware ports to windows.

If its windows based, or perhaps windows to Samba and its just an admin 
function, like a scheduled copy... then have a look at Microsofts attempt at 
linux type scripting... its called
WSH... its a vb or Javascript type language that lets you do things like 
copy files, and I imagine it will interface with scheduled tasks, services 
and all the rest of it.


Looks like this
Set FSO = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject)

If Not FSO.FolderExists(FolderName) Then

  FSO.CreateFolder(FolderName)

End If

Have Fun...


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Help with char encodings

2007-10-13 Thread Amnon Lahav

Hi ,
i have a site configured on every possible place to utf8 , when i use it on 
my computer everything runs ok beside a little problem where i had to use a 
file uploaded with commons.fileupload , there i used get with windows1255 
but everything works on my computer
when i uploaded the file to the host it's not working i can see the hebrew 
when it comes from the DB but when i try to upload a hebrew file and read it 
or even hebrew in textbox it comes out as jibrish ?

any udeas ?


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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Pid
David Kerber wrote:
 Pid wrote:
 David Kerber wrote:
  
 What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 1GB [yes,
 that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under
 tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a
 large byte[] array?  Or what?
 

 I think that the NIO apis were intended to handle speedier transfers of
 data across network connections.

 It depends how you wish to move the data.  Google provided a wealth of
 results of mixed tutorials and API explanations for java nio.

 p
   
 Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my
 webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
 to a backup server on the LAN.  This particular function does not use
 the internet, it's strictly copying on the LAN.  I don't care what
 method it uses as long as it's fairly simple to code, and moves fast. 
 I've already got the creation of the backup file handled; that's a
 database function.  It's just the copying to another machine that I'm
 working on now.

Can you not make the second DB a slave of the main one, it'll be
permanently up to date that way and it doesn't require any copying.

For integrity to be maintained during the copy you'd have to stop the
database otherwise, or you could have unpleasant conditions occuring
where some database writing occurs while you're copying it.

p



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Re: Does mod_jk copy memory b/w apache and tomcat (using linux, ajp13 worker)?

2007-10-13 Thread Moran Ben-David
 Apache httpd and Tomcat do not share any memory, so there is not any
 explicit memory-copying going on.

How do they share data?  For example, when Tomcat creates an HTTP
response containing 50k of HTML, I assume that data exists in Tomcat's
memory space.  How does that data move over to apache's so it can
respond to the HTTP request.  If the apache and tomcat process don't
use any shared buffers (in linux) wouldn't that mean the data is
copied form tomcat's memory space to apache's?

 If the two processes are on the same machine, and are using the
 localhost NIC, then UNIX is usually smart enough to do memory copies
 instead of doing all the TCP/IP stuff necessary to send the data to a
 remote host.

I guess that actually answers my question: the data is (probably)
copied between tomcat's memory space and apache's (under ajp13).
However, would there be room here for an optimization that uses a
shared_buffer to communicate b/w apache tomcat on the same machine?
This could reduce process to process data copying.

However, from my understanding that can also be achieved through the
jni mod_jk worker.   Do you know of any good documentation on that
worker?  I noticed that references such as in this page

http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/workers.html

use tomcat version 3.3 as a tomcat instance inside apache's mem space.
 Are there limitations in doing this with newer tomcat's?

Again.. my apologies for not trying this out first.. I'm only asking
because there seems to be very little in-process documentation out
there (that doesn't reference very old tomcat versions).

thanks,
moran

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Martin Gainty
Sadly no cron (and sadly no .htaccess file available either)
wrap the java %java_opts% -cp %classpath% classname
in either a cmd or .bat
On a 7 year old wintel box the application is called Task Scheduler where
you want to select that cmd/bat
Be sure to set sufficient security permissions to execute as well as
read/write whatever resources you need
(no catalina.policy to reference permissions when running standalone)

One more thing-
Click on Icon/Settings/Power Management/Dont start if computer is running on
batteries!

HTH/
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  David,
 
  David Kerber wrote:
 
  Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in
my
  webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
  to a backup server on the LAN.
 
 
  Uh cron and cp, anyone? You can even use cron to initiate the
  backup, too, instead of scripting it from your webapp.
 
  Why doesn't anyone use cron anymore? Sheesh...
 
 Does Windows 2003 server have a version of cron?  I've never used it.
 And building it into my webapp lets all the configuration be done from
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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread David Kerber

Pid wrote:

David Kerber wrote:
  

Pid wrote:


David Kerber wrote:
 
  

What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 1GB [yes,
that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under
tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a
large byte[] array?  Or what?



I think that the NIO apis were intended to handle speedier transfers of
data across network connections.

It depends how you wish to move the data.  Google provided a wealth of
results of mixed tutorials and API explanations for java nio.

p
  
  

Let me give a bit more detail:  I am working on a utility function in my
webapp that will periodically copy the database file from the db server
to a backup server on the LAN.  This particular function does not use
the internet, it's strictly copying on the LAN.  I don't care what
method it uses as long as it's fairly simple to code, and moves fast. 
I've already got the creation of the backup file handled; that's a

database function.  It's just the copying to another machine that I'm
working on now.



Can you not make the second DB a slave of the main one, it'll be
permanently up to date that way and it doesn't require any copying.

For integrity to be maintained during the copy you'd have to stop the
database otherwise, or you could have unpleasant conditions occuring
where some database writing occurs while you're copying it.
  
No, database mirroring isn't an option for this particular case; it's 
rather cost-sensitive, and the customer decided that the extra 
reliability wasn't worth the extra cost.  This database has a backup 
procedure that is specifically designed to handle transactions that 
occur during the backup without causing trouble.  Plus, the full backup 
is done during the middle of the night when there is normally nothing 
going on (there is only activity about 18 hours per day in this app).  
The other backups during the day are incrementals.



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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread David Kerber

Martin Gainty wrote:

Sadly no cron (and sadly no .htaccess file available either)
wrap the java %java_opts% -cp %classpath% classname
in either a cmd or .bat
On a 7 year old wintel box the application is called Task Scheduler where
you want to select that cmd/bat
Be sure to set sufficient security permissions to execute as well as
read/write whatever resources you need
(no catalina.policy to reference permissions when running standalone)

One more thing-
Click on Icon/Settings/Power Management/Dont start if computer is running on
batteries!

HTH/
Martin--
  


Seems like my idea of just writing a TimerTask to do this would be more 
straightforward, since I'm doing other stuff with java.util.Timer's 
anyway...


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Re: [OT] mod_jk - no permission to access index file

2007-10-13 Thread Albert Greinoecker
exactly, that was it. thanks a lot!
albert

  Is there anything interesting in httpd's error.log file?
   Symbolic link not allowed: /usr/share/tomcat6
 
 There you go. You have Options FollowSymLinks listed for
 /usr/share/tomcat6/webapps/my_app, but not for either / or
 /usr/share or something like that.
 
 You'll need to enable the FollowSymLinks option further up the directory
 structure so that /usr/share/tomcat6 (a symlnk) is followable.



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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
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 Does Windows 2003 server have a version of cron?

Yes, it's called the Microsoft Task Scheduler.

 I've never used it. 

:(

 And building it into my webapp lets all the configuration be done from
 the same interface..

Fair enough. :(

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Tomcat 5.5.25, SSL and invalid keystore format

2007-10-13 Thread Werner Schalk

Hello,

I am trying to setup SSL in my Tomcat 5.5.25 (on Debian Linux) and thus 
downloaded a binary version of Tomcat from the Tomcat website.

Now I tried to create a keystore:

# keytool -genkey -v -keyalg RSA

The server.xml is as follows:

  Connector port=8443 maxHttpHeaderSize=8192
  maxThreads=150 minSpareThreads=25 maxSpareThreads=75
  enableLookups=false disableUploadTimeout=true
  acceptCount=100 scheme=https secure=true
  clientAuth=false sslProtocol=TLS /

The error message in the log I am getting is:

SEVERE: Catalina.start:
LifecycleException:  service.getName(): Catalina;  Protocol handler start 
failed: java.io.IOException: Invalid keystore format
   at 
org.apache.catalina.connector.Connector.start(Connector.java:1097)
   at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:457)
   at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:700)

   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:552)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
   at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)

   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.start(Bootstrap.java:295)
   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:433)

What is causing this problem? Why is the keystore not valid? Has this to do 
with the APR or something? How would I need to create
a keystore then to make it work in Tomcat? I also tried to specify the 
keystore location and name but that doesn't change anything...any ideas?


Thank you.

Best regards,
Werner. 



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Re: embedded Tomcat (5.5.23) application logging (java.util.logging)

2007-10-13 Thread Carl Mosca
I really appreciate the timeliness of all the responses and the theory
behind how and when logging is configured and initialized has been explained
really well.

However I'm not so sure I have explained where I actually am very well.  I
have been able to configure Java logging via the command line and within the
app I wrote which utilizes embedded Tomcat and get desired output.

The output I am not getting is from the either of the two web applications
(which are registered wars).

The part I am not following is if I am getting output from the logging
(which utilizes java.util.logging ) in the application itself and the hosted
web applications are also using java.util.logging, why am I not getting
output from these?

If the configuration is ignored because the JVM has already been
initialized, I would think the configuration set via the Java Control Panel
would be utilized.

I suspect there's something simple I am not doing when I register these
apps.



 All the above is correct.  See the API doc for
 java.util.logging.LogManager .  The static initializer for that class
 uses either an instanced of itself or an instance of the class named on
 the aforementioned system property.  Thus, you need to set
 java.util.logging.manager prior to initializing the JVM.



RE: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Peter Crowther
 From: David Kerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 
 1GB [yes, 
 that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under 
 tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a 
 large byte[] array?  Or what?

If you *definitely* want efficient, and you're on Windows, then:

- Do not use Java, use OS-level tools;
- Run the tools on the receiving machine, not the sending machine.

You don't have to worry about differences in buffer sizes between the
network and whatever chunking you're using on the Java file copy, and
I'm pretty sure I've seen copy pre-allocate the entire file space when
the target file is local (because it knows it's copying a source file
and it knows it has exclusive access, so the size doesn't change).  I've
never seen that behaviour when copy is running to a network share.

The easiest way of doing this on Windows is via the AT command: write
yourself an at that runs a couple of minutes in the future (use Java to
look up the time :-) ), similar to:

at \\targetserver 21:02 c:\jobs\copyFromLive.bat

Ugly as sin, but it works and it's fast.

- Peter

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Bill Barker
Seconding Peter's comments:  It is extremely unlikely that you can beat the 
Windows tools for this sort of thing (been there, done that).  Also, if your 
webapp isn't physically on one or the other boxes (as Peter said, preferably 
the reciever), then you are pretty much guaranteed to lose.

That being said, if you insist on using Java, then use a MappedByteBuffer on 
the source, and either a transferTo or TransferFrom to send it to the to. 
On Windows, this makes an order of magnitude difference for 1GB+ files.


Peter Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: David Kerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large (
 1GB [yes,
 that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under
 tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a
 large byte[] array?  Or what?

If you *definitely* want efficient, and you're on Windows, then:

- Do not use Java, use OS-level tools;
- Run the tools on the receiving machine, not the sending machine.

You don't have to worry about differences in buffer sizes between the
network and whatever chunking you're using on the Java file copy, and
I'm pretty sure I've seen copy pre-allocate the entire file space when
the target file is local (because it knows it's copying a source file
and it knows it has exclusive access, so the size doesn't change).  I've
never seen that behaviour when copy is running to a network share.

The easiest way of doing this on Windows is via the AT command: write
yourself an at that runs a couple of minutes in the future (use Java to
look up the time :-) ), similar to:

at \\targetserver 21:02 c:\jobs\copyFromLive.bat

Ugly as sin, but it works and it's fast.

- Peter

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread David Kerber

Peter Crowther wrote:
From: David Kerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
What is the most efficient (=fastest) way of copying large ( 
1GB [yes, 
that's a Giga]) files around the network in java when running under 
tomcat 5.5.x?  Do I use a FileInputStream and FileOutputStream with a 
large byte[] array?  Or what?



If you *definitely* want efficient, and you're on Windows, then:

- Do not use Java, use OS-level tools;
- Run the tools on the receiving machine, not the sending machine.

You don't have to worry about differences in buffer sizes between the
network and whatever chunking you're using on the Java file copy, and
I'm pretty sure I've seen copy pre-allocate the entire file space when
the target file is local (because it knows it's copying a source file
and it knows it has exclusive access, so the size doesn't change).  I've
never seen that behaviour when copy is running to a network share.

The easiest way of doing this on Windows is via the AT command: write
yourself an at that runs a couple of minutes in the future (use Java to
look up the time :-) ), similar to:

at \\targetserver 21:02 c:\jobs\copyFromLive.bat

Ugly as sin, but it works and it's fast.

- Peter
  

Thanks for the suggestion!  I would never have thought of that.

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Re: Copying large files around

2007-10-13 Thread Johnny Kewl


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If it Postgresql you using, a while a go I wrote a replication system for
Postgres, and its a TC servlet. So what you could to is make a real time
back up, ie as one transaction happens on the main dB its replicated on the
other and visa versa dB has to be designed for it, but they always
aligned.
If you interested, just yell.


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