Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Mark Thomas]

This is off-topic.

As per my previous email in this thread, please stop this behaviour and
keep your posts on-topic.

Mark


On 08/01/2020 19:51, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
> 
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
> 
> 
> Mary Zheng
> Posted by: Mary Zheng
>  in Core Java
>  December 27th, 2019
>  0
> 
>  433 Views
> 
> She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement, and
> monitor the software solution.
> 
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
> 
> 2. Technologies Used
> 
> The example code in this article was built and run using:
> 
>- Java 11
>- Maven 3.3.9
>- Eclipse Oxygen
>- Junit 4.12
> 
> 
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
> 
>> ok
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> www.backbutton.co.uk
>> ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
>> Marriage of loose and tight coupling
>> -> healthy applications
>>♡۶
>> javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
>> java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
>> What No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
>>
>> On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
 Zahid,

 you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
>>> like this?
>>>
>>> All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
>>> of conduct:
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>>>
>>> This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
>>> of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
>>>
 STFU or leave.
>>> While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
>>> going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and refrain
>>> from such responses.
>>>
 This calls for an ban!
>>> As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as I
>>> saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
>>> When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep threads
>>> on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
>>>
>>> I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
>>>
>>> If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of the
>>> moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
>>> users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
>>>
> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
>
> 
>> A version of what?
> MAVEN
> MAVEN
> MAVEN
>
> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> Of http.
>
> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
>>> No.
>>>
>>> How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
>>> Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
>>> list.
>>>
> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
>>> Zahid,
>>>
>>> Please stop this now.
>>>
>>> Please keep your posts to this list on topic.
>>>
>>> Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of
>> Conduct.
>>>
>>> If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
>>> behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then the
>>> list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
>>> simply block you from posting at all.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> wearing his list moderator hat
>>>
>>> -
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
>>>
>> --
>> www.backbutton.co.uk
>> ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
>> Marriage of loose and tight coupling
>> -> healthy applications
>>♡۶
>> java -cp classpath class-path
>>
>>
> 


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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

I am responding to statement made by lersencrypt guy with evidence.
Statement  he made on this list. It is known as right to respond.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 21:20 calder,  wrote:

> What does this have to do with Tomcat?
>
> Moderators???
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 13:52 Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>
> > Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> > warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> > Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
> >
> >
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
> >
> >
> > Mary Zheng
> > Posted by: Mary Zheng
> >  in Core Java
> >  December 27th,
> > 2019
> >  0
> > <
> >
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond
> > >
> >  433 Views
> >
> > She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> > where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement,
> and
> > monitor the software solution.
> >
> > https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
> >
> > 2. Technologies Used
> >
> > The example code in this article was built and run using:
> >
> >- Java 11
> >- Maven 3.3.9
> >- Eclipse Oxygen
> >- Junit 4.12
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
> >
> > > ok
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > > -> healthy applications
> > >♡۶
> > > javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> > > java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> > > What No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
> > >
> > > On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > > > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> > > >> Zahid,
> > > >>
> > > >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > > > like this?
> > > >
> > > > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the
> code
> > > > of conduct:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> > > >
> > > > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from
> one
> > > > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> > > >
> > > >> STFU or leave.
> > > > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are
> only
> > > > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and
> > refrain
> > > > from such responses.
> > > >
> > > >> This calls for an ban!
> > > > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon
> as
> > I
> > > > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a
> one-off.
> > > > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep
> > threads
> > > > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> > > >
> > > > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of
> > the
> > > > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > > > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman  >:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 
> > >  A version of what?
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > > >>> Of http.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > > > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users'
> mailing
> > > > list.
> > > >
> > > >>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> > > > Zahid,
> > > >
> > > > Please stop this now.
> > > >
> > > > Please keep your posts to this list on topic.
> > > >
> > > > Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of
> > > Conduct.
> > > >
> > > > If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
> > > > behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then
> the
> > > > list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
> > > > simply block you from posting at all.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > wearing his list moderator hat
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > >
> > > --
> > > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > > -> healthy applications
> > >♡۶
> > > java -cp classpath class-path
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

I am going to put all your emails attacking me on my website.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 21:20 calder,  wrote:

> What does this have to do with Tomcat?
>
> Moderators???
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 13:52 Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>
> > Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> > warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> > Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
> >
> >
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
> >
> >
> > Mary Zheng
> > Posted by: Mary Zheng
> >  in Core Java
> >  December 27th,
> > 2019
> >  0
> > <
> >
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond
> > >
> >  433 Views
> >
> > She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> > where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement,
> and
> > monitor the software solution.
> >
> > https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
> >
> > 2. Technologies Used
> >
> > The example code in this article was built and run using:
> >
> >- Java 11
> >- Maven 3.3.9
> >- Eclipse Oxygen
> >- Junit 4.12
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
> >
> > > ok
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > > -> healthy applications
> > >♡۶
> > > javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> > > java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> > > What No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
> > >
> > > On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > > > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> > > >> Zahid,
> > > >>
> > > >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > > > like this?
> > > >
> > > > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the
> code
> > > > of conduct:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> > > >
> > > > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from
> one
> > > > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> > > >
> > > >> STFU or leave.
> > > > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are
> only
> > > > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and
> > refrain
> > > > from such responses.
> > > >
> > > >> This calls for an ban!
> > > > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon
> as
> > I
> > > > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a
> one-off.
> > > > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep
> > threads
> > > > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> > > >
> > > > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of
> > the
> > > > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > > > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman  >:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 
> > >  A version of what?
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>> MAVEN
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > > >>> Of http.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > > > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users'
> mailing
> > > > list.
> > > >
> > > >>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> > > > Zahid,
> > > >
> > > > Please stop this now.
> > > >
> > > > Please keep your posts to this list on topic.
> > > >
> > > > Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of
> > > Conduct.
> > > >
> > > > If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
> > > > behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then
> the
> > > > list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
> > > > simply block you from posting at all.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > wearing his list moderator hat
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > >
> > > --
> > > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > > -> healthy applications
> > >♡۶
> > > java -cp classpath class-path
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[calder]

What does this have to do with Tomcat?

Moderators???



On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 13:52 Zahid Rahman  wrote:

> Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
> warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
> Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.
>
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/
>
>
> Mary Zheng
> Posted by: Mary Zheng
>  in Core Java
>  December 27th,
> 2019
>  0
> <
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/#respond
> >
>  433 Views
>
> She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
> where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement, and
> monitor the software solution.
>
> https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/
>
> 2. Technologies Used
>
> The example code in this article was built and run using:
>
>- Java 11
>- Maven 3.3.9
>- Eclipse Oxygen
>- Junit 4.12
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:
>
> > ok
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > -> healthy applications
> >♡۶
> > javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> > java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> > What No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
> >
> > On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> > >> Zahid,
> > >>
> > >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > > like this?
> > >
> > > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
> > > of conduct:
> > >
> > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> > >
> > > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
> > > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> > >
> > >> STFU or leave.
> > > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
> > > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and
> refrain
> > > from such responses.
> > >
> > >> This calls for an ban!
> > > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as
> I
> > > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
> > > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep
> threads
> > > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> > >
> > > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> > >
> > > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of
> the
> > > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> > >
> > >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> > >>>
> > >>> 
> >  A version of what?
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>> MAVEN
> > >>>
> > >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > >>> Of http.
> > >>>
> > >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > > No.
> > >
> > > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
> > > list.
> > >
> > >>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> > > Zahid,
> > >
> > > Please stop this now.
> > >
> > > Please keep your posts to this list on topic.
> > >
> > > Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of
> > Conduct.
> > >
> > > If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
> > > behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then the
> > > list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
> > > simply block you from posting at all.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > wearing his list moderator hat
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
> > >
> > --
> > www.backbutton.co.uk
> > ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> > Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> > -> healthy applications
> >♡۶
> > java -cp classpath class-path
> >
> >
>

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

Another example of using  maven 2015 version and the impact of unknown
warning  by MAVEN can have on application development across the Globe.
Let'sEncrypt guy (Shultz) dismissed as unimportant.

https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.3.9/


Mary Zheng
Posted by: Mary Zheng
 in Core Java
 December 27th, 2019
 0

 433 Views

She works as a senior Software Engineer in the telecommunications sector
where she acts as a leader and works with others to design, implement, and
monitor the software solution.

https://examples.javacodegeeks.com/multiple-inheritance-java-example/

2. Technologies Used

The example code in this article was built and run using:

   - Java 11
   - Maven 3.3.9
   - Eclipse Oxygen
   - Junit 4.12


On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:36 zahid,  wrote:

> ok
>
> Thank you.
>
> www.backbutton.co.uk
> ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> -> healthy applications
>♡۶
> javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
> java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
> What No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!
>
> On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> >> Zahid,
> >>
> >> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
> > like this?
> >
> > All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
> > of conduct:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> >
> > This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
> > of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.
> >
> >> STFU or leave.
> > While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
> > going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and refrain
> > from such responses.
> >
> >> This calls for an ban!
> > As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as I
> > saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
> > When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep threads
> > on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.
> >
> > I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.
> >
> > If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of the
> > moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
> > users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org
> >
> >>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> >>>
> >>> 
>  A version of what?
> >>> MAVEN
> >>> MAVEN
> >>> MAVEN
> >>>
> >>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> >>> Of http.
> >>>
> >>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> > No.
> >
> > How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
> > Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
> > list.
> >
> >>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> > Zahid,
> >
> > Please stop this now.
> >
> > Please keep your posts to this list on topic.
> >
> > Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of
> Conduct.
> >
> > If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
> > behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then the
> > list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
> > simply block you from posting at all.
> >
> > Mark
> > wearing his list moderator hat
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
> >
> --
> www.backbutton.co.uk
> ♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
> Marriage of loose and tight coupling
> -> healthy applications
>♡۶
> java -cp classpath class-path
>
>

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[zahid]

ok

Thank you.

www.backbutton.co.uk
♡۶¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♡۶
Marriage of loose and tight coupling
-> healthy applications
  ♡۶
javac Garden/Vegetables/VineVegetable.java
java   Garden.Vegetables.VineVegetable
What No!  -classpath -class-path even -cp!

On 08/01/2020 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote:

On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:

Zahid,

you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community

like this?

All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
of conduct:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html

This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.


STFU or leave.

While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and refrain
from such responses.


This calls for an ban!

As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as I
saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep threads
on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.

I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.

If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of the
moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org


Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :



A version of what?

MAVEN
MAVEN
MAVEN

In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
Of http.

You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.

No.

How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
list.


Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.

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Please stop this now.

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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Mark Thomas]

On 08/01/2020 08:41, Peter Kreuser wrote:
> Zahid,
>
> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community
like this?

All participants in Apache communities are expected to follow the code
of conduct:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html

This is irrespective of whether you are replying to a message from one
of the founders of the ASF or a first time contributor.

> STFU or leave.

While I understand the frustration, statements like the above are only
going to add heat to an already heated situation. Please try and refrain
from such responses.

> This calls for an ban!

As one of the list moderators, that thought crossed my mind as soon as I
saw the off-topic Linux vs Windows post. I hoped that it was a one-off.
When it became clear that it wasn't, I posted my request to keep threads
on topic. I hoped that would be sufficient. Clearly it wasn't.

I would urge everyone not to reply to off-topic posts.

If you want to bring a post you find problematic to the attention of the
moderators then please feel free to mail the list moderators at:
users-ow...@tomcat.apache.org

>> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
>>
>> 
>>>
>>> A version of what?
>> MAVEN
>> MAVEN
>> MAVEN
>>
>> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
>> Of http.
>>
>> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.

No.

How to configure Apache Tomcat with keys and certificates provided by
Let's Encrypt is entirely on-topic for the Apache Tomcat users' mailing
list.

>> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.

Zahid,

Please stop this now.

Please keep your posts to this list on topic.

Please ensure that any posts are consistent with the Apache Code of Conduct.

If you continue to disrupt this community with off-topic posts and/or
behaviour that is inconsistent with the Apache Code of Conduct then the
list moderators will either require all your posts to be moderated or
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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users Ban him for abusive behaviour.

[Zahid Rahman]

Ban him for abusive behaviour.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 08:42 Peter Kreuser,  wrote:

> Zahid,
>
> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community like
> this?
>
> STFU or leave.
>
> This calls for an ban!
>
> Peter
>
> > Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> A version of what?
> > MAVEN
> > MAVEN
> > MAVEN
> >
> > In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > Of http.
> >
> > You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> >
> > Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 01:12 Christopher Schultz, <
> ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> Hash: SHA256
> >>
> >> Zahid,
> >>
> >>> On 1/6/20 3:13 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> >>> That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using a version from
> >>> 2015
> >>
> >> A version of what?
> >>
> >>> and Apache Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
> >> Apache Struts 2.5.x supports Java 7 and later. I see no official
> >> documentation recommending a specific Java version over any others.
> >>
> >>> Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off
> >>> topic and Giant IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK
> >>> 8.
> >>
> >> Maybe just not for free.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk13-downloads
> >> - -5672538.html
> >> https://www.azul.com/category/java13/
> >>
> >> Admittedly, Oracle's JDK/JRE is based upon
> >> https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/13/ so maybe that doesn't count
> >> as a separate release.
> >>
> >> But no, IBM doesn't appear to have a new version beyond Java 11.
> >>
> >>> The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
> >>> Apache Foundation.
> >>
> >> So you found a problem with a package provided by Ubuntu/Debian, and
> >> your solution was to install the official Maven package from the
> >> Apache Software Foundation. And your conclusion is that the ASF is the
> >> miserable and disgraceful party, here?
> >>
> >> I'm so confused.
> >>
> >> It's worth pointing-out that there is no enforced coordination between
> >> ASF projects. Some of them work together in almost lock-step, like APR
> >> and httpd. Others are completely de-coupled. Some ignore each other
> >> (e.g. Apache Maven and Apache Tomcat). It's up to the individual
> >> projects to determine if/how they will work together.
> >>
> >> You may wish to read a little more about the ASF before you make
> >> blanket statements about it.
> >> https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html
> >>
> >> If you are dissatisfied with the ASF communities (or maybe just a few
> >> in particular), may I suggest that you take one of these two courses
> >> of action:
> >>
> >> 1. Volunteer to improve the situation. Usually in the form of
> >> patches/PRs to that project.
> >>
> >> 2. Take your complaints elsewhere.
> >>
> >> - -chris
> >>
>  On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > To all ubuntu Maven  users.
> 
>  This is off-topic for this mailing list.
> 
>  Please keep posts on this list on topic.
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Mark
> 
> 
> >
> > Do NOT  install maven using sudo apt install maven
> >
> > Install by  direct download  only  from
> > https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> >
> > BECAUSE:
> >
> > "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven
> > which differs from the Apache source.
> >
> > ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
> > suggests it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> >
> > If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> > and
>  follow
> > the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then
> > you
>  shouldn't
> > see those warnings. " ‐---
> >
> > The Java 11 warning mentions that
> > "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a class named
> > "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> >
> > This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses
> > the "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB
> > classes. It suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven
> > has replaced the
>  "no-AOP"
> > version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on
> > Java 11. (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies
> > on certain
>  reflective
> > access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
> > doesn't.)
> >
> 
> 
>  -
> 
> 
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
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> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >> -BEGIN 

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

15 years ago I pointed in detail what I expect from a professional  tool

That tool has been sent to.

You are a classpath class-path people
.
I am  -cp kind of person.

He makes you feel comfortable because you are lost and confused. He is too.




On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 08:42 Peter Kreuser,  wrote:

> Zahid,
>
> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community like
> this?
>
> STFU or leave.
>
> This calls for an ban!
>
> Peter
>
> > Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> A version of what?
> > MAVEN
> > MAVEN
> > MAVEN
> >
> > In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > Of http.
> >
> > You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> >
> > Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 01:12 Christopher Schultz, <
> ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> Hash: SHA256
> >>
> >> Zahid,
> >>
> >>> On 1/6/20 3:13 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> >>> That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using a version from
> >>> 2015
> >>
> >> A version of what?
> >>
> >>> and Apache Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
> >> Apache Struts 2.5.x supports Java 7 and later. I see no official
> >> documentation recommending a specific Java version over any others.
> >>
> >>> Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off
> >>> topic and Giant IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK
> >>> 8.
> >>
> >> Maybe just not for free.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk13-downloads
> >> - -5672538.html
> >> https://www.azul.com/category/java13/
> >>
> >> Admittedly, Oracle's JDK/JRE is based upon
> >> https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/13/ so maybe that doesn't count
> >> as a separate release.
> >>
> >> But no, IBM doesn't appear to have a new version beyond Java 11.
> >>
> >>> The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
> >>> Apache Foundation.
> >>
> >> So you found a problem with a package provided by Ubuntu/Debian, and
> >> your solution was to install the official Maven package from the
> >> Apache Software Foundation. And your conclusion is that the ASF is the
> >> miserable and disgraceful party, here?
> >>
> >> I'm so confused.
> >>
> >> It's worth pointing-out that there is no enforced coordination between
> >> ASF projects. Some of them work together in almost lock-step, like APR
> >> and httpd. Others are completely de-coupled. Some ignore each other
> >> (e.g. Apache Maven and Apache Tomcat). It's up to the individual
> >> projects to determine if/how they will work together.
> >>
> >> You may wish to read a little more about the ASF before you make
> >> blanket statements about it.
> >> https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html
> >>
> >> If you are dissatisfied with the ASF communities (or maybe just a few
> >> in particular), may I suggest that you take one of these two courses
> >> of action:
> >>
> >> 1. Volunteer to improve the situation. Usually in the form of
> >> patches/PRs to that project.
> >>
> >> 2. Take your complaints elsewhere.
> >>
> >> - -chris
> >>
>  On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > To all ubuntu Maven  users.
> 
>  This is off-topic for this mailing list.
> 
>  Please keep posts on this list on topic.
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Mark
> 
> 
> >
> > Do NOT  install maven using sudo apt install maven
> >
> > Install by  direct download  only  from
> > https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> >
> > BECAUSE:
> >
> > "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven
> > which differs from the Apache source.
> >
> > ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
> > suggests it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> >
> > If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> > and
>  follow
> > the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then
> > you
>  shouldn't
> > see those warnings. " ‐---
> >
> > The Java 11 warning mentions that
> > "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a class named
> > "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> >
> > This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses
> > the "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB
> > classes. It suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven
> > has replaced the
>  "no-AOP"
> > version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on
> > Java 11. (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies
> > on certain
>  reflective
> > access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
> > doesn't.)
> >
> 
> 
>  

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

You can STFU.

He doesn't even know about an what in API is  ?



On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 08:42 Peter Kreuser,  wrote:

> Zahid,
>
> you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community like
> this?
>
> STFU or leave.
>
> This calls for an ban!
>
> Peter
>
> > Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> A version of what?
> > MAVEN
> > MAVEN
> > MAVEN
> >
> > In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> > Of http.
> >
> > You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> >
> > Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 01:12 Christopher Schultz, <
> ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> Hash: SHA256
> >>
> >> Zahid,
> >>
> >>> On 1/6/20 3:13 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> >>> That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using a version from
> >>> 2015
> >>
> >> A version of what?
> >>
> >>> and Apache Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
> >> Apache Struts 2.5.x supports Java 7 and later. I see no official
> >> documentation recommending a specific Java version over any others.
> >>
> >>> Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off
> >>> topic and Giant IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK
> >>> 8.
> >>
> >> Maybe just not for free.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk13-downloads
> >> - -5672538.html
> >> https://www.azul.com/category/java13/
> >>
> >> Admittedly, Oracle's JDK/JRE is based upon
> >> https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/13/ so maybe that doesn't count
> >> as a separate release.
> >>
> >> But no, IBM doesn't appear to have a new version beyond Java 11.
> >>
> >>> The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
> >>> Apache Foundation.
> >>
> >> So you found a problem with a package provided by Ubuntu/Debian, and
> >> your solution was to install the official Maven package from the
> >> Apache Software Foundation. And your conclusion is that the ASF is the
> >> miserable and disgraceful party, here?
> >>
> >> I'm so confused.
> >>
> >> It's worth pointing-out that there is no enforced coordination between
> >> ASF projects. Some of them work together in almost lock-step, like APR
> >> and httpd. Others are completely de-coupled. Some ignore each other
> >> (e.g. Apache Maven and Apache Tomcat). It's up to the individual
> >> projects to determine if/how they will work together.
> >>
> >> You may wish to read a little more about the ASF before you make
> >> blanket statements about it.
> >> https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html
> >>
> >> If you are dissatisfied with the ASF communities (or maybe just a few
> >> in particular), may I suggest that you take one of these two courses
> >> of action:
> >>
> >> 1. Volunteer to improve the situation. Usually in the form of
> >> patches/PRs to that project.
> >>
> >> 2. Take your complaints elsewhere.
> >>
> >> - -chris
> >>
>  On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > To all ubuntu Maven  users.
> 
>  This is off-topic for this mailing list.
> 
>  Please keep posts on this list on topic.
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Mark
> 
> 
> >
> > Do NOT  install maven using sudo apt install maven
> >
> > Install by  direct download  only  from
> > https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> >
> > BECAUSE:
> >
> > "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven
> > which differs from the Apache source.
> >
> > ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
> > suggests it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> >
> > If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> > and
>  follow
> > the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then
> > you
>  shouldn't
> > see those warnings. " ‐---
> >
> > The Java 11 warning mentions that
> > "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a class named
> > "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> >
> > This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses
> > the "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB
> > classes. It suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven
> > has replaced the
>  "no-AOP"
> > version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on
> > Java 11. (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies
> > on certain
>  reflective
> > access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
> > doesn't.)
> >
> 
> 
>  -
> 
> 
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org
>  For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
> 
> 

Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Peter Kreuser]

Zahid,

you‘re talking to one of the most respected members of the community like this?

STFU or leave.

This calls for an ban!

Peter

> Am 08.01.2020 um 06:06 schrieb Zahid Rahman :
> 
> 
>> 
>> A version of what?
> MAVEN
> MAVEN
> MAVEN
> 
> In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
> Of http.
> 
> You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.
> 
> Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 01:12 Christopher Schultz, 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA256
>> 
>> Zahid,
>> 
>>> On 1/6/20 3:13 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
>>> That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using a version from
>>> 2015
>> 
>> A version of what?
>> 
>>> and Apache Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
>> Apache Struts 2.5.x supports Java 7 and later. I see no official
>> documentation recommending a specific Java version over any others.
>> 
>>> Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off
>>> topic and Giant IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK
>>> 8.
>> 
>> Maybe just not for free.
>> 
>> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk13-downloads
>> - -5672538.html
>> https://www.azul.com/category/java13/
>> 
>> Admittedly, Oracle's JDK/JRE is based upon
>> https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/13/ so maybe that doesn't count
>> as a separate release.
>> 
>> But no, IBM doesn't appear to have a new version beyond Java 11.
>> 
>>> The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
>>> Apache Foundation.
>> 
>> So you found a problem with a package provided by Ubuntu/Debian, and
>> your solution was to install the official Maven package from the
>> Apache Software Foundation. And your conclusion is that the ASF is the
>> miserable and disgraceful party, here?
>> 
>> I'm so confused.
>> 
>> It's worth pointing-out that there is no enforced coordination between
>> ASF projects. Some of them work together in almost lock-step, like APR
>> and httpd. Others are completely de-coupled. Some ignore each other
>> (e.g. Apache Maven and Apache Tomcat). It's up to the individual
>> projects to determine if/how they will work together.
>> 
>> You may wish to read a little more about the ASF before you make
>> blanket statements about it.
>> https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html
>> 
>> If you are dissatisfied with the ASF communities (or maybe just a few
>> in particular), may I suggest that you take one of these two courses
>> of action:
>> 
>> 1. Volunteer to improve the situation. Usually in the form of
>> patches/PRs to that project.
>> 
>> 2. Take your complaints elsewhere.
>> 
>> - -chris
>> 
 On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:
>>> 
 On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> To all ubuntu Maven  users.
 
 This is off-topic for this mailing list.
 
 Please keep posts on this list on topic.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mark
 
 
> 
> Do NOT  install maven using sudo apt install maven
> 
> Install by  direct download  only  from
> https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> 
> BECAUSE:
> 
> "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven
> which differs from the Apache source.
> 
> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
> suggests it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> 
> If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> and
 follow
> the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then
> you
 shouldn't
> see those warnings. " ‐---
> 
> The Java 11 warning mentions that
> "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a class named
> "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> 
> This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses
> the "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB
> classes. It suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven
> has replaced the
 "no-AOP"
> version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on
> Java 11. (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies
> on certain
 reflective
> access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
> doesn't.)
> 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

  >A version of what?
 MAVEN
MAVEN
MAVEN

In light of this video https://youtu.be/idViw4anA6E
Of http.

You and your let's encrypt must be the longest troll on this line.

Take your wares and peddle them somewhere else carpet beggar.




On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 01:12 Christopher Schultz, 
wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> Zahid,
>
> On 1/6/20 3:13 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using a version from
> >  2015
>
> A version of what?
>
> > and Apache Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
> Apache Struts 2.5.x supports Java 7 and later. I see no official
> documentation recommending a specific Java version over any others.
>
> > Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off
> > topic and Giant IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK
> > 8.
>
> Maybe just not for free.
>
> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk13-downloads
> - -5672538.html
> https://www.azul.com/category/java13/
>
> Admittedly, Oracle's JDK/JRE is based upon
> https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/13/ so maybe that doesn't count
> as a separate release.
>
> But no, IBM doesn't appear to have a new version beyond Java 11.
>
> > The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
> > Apache Foundation.
>
> So you found a problem with a package provided by Ubuntu/Debian, and
> your solution was to install the official Maven package from the
> Apache Software Foundation. And your conclusion is that the ASF is the
> miserable and disgraceful party, here?
>
> I'm so confused.
>
> It's worth pointing-out that there is no enforced coordination between
> ASF projects. Some of them work together in almost lock-step, like APR
> and httpd. Others are completely de-coupled. Some ignore each other
> (e.g. Apache Maven and Apache Tomcat). It's up to the individual
> projects to determine if/how they will work together.
>
> You may wish to read a little more about the ASF before you make
> blanket statements about it.
> https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html
>
> If you are dissatisfied with the ASF communities (or maybe just a few
> in particular), may I suggest that you take one of these two courses
> of action:
>
> 1. Volunteer to improve the situation. Usually in the form of
> patches/PRs to that project.
>
> 2. Take your complaints elsewhere.
>
> - -chris
>
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> >>> To all ubuntu Maven  users.
> >>
> >> This is off-topic for this mailing list.
> >>
> >> Please keep posts on this list on topic.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Do NOT  install maven using sudo apt install maven
> >>>
> >>> Install by  direct download  only  from
> >>> https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> >>>
> >>> BECAUSE:
> >>>
> >>> "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven
> >>> which differs from the Apache source.
> >>>
> >>> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
> >>> suggests it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> >>>
> >>> If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> >>> and
> >> follow
> >>> the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then
> >>> you
> >> shouldn't
> >>> see those warnings. " ‐---
> >>>
> >>> The Java 11 warning mentions that
> >>> "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a class named
> >>> "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> >>>
> >>> This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses
> >>> the "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB
> >>> classes. It suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven
> >>> has replaced the
> >> "no-AOP"
> >>> version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on
> >>> Java 11. (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies
> >>> on certain
> >> reflective
> >>> access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
> >>> doesn't.)
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Christopher Schultz]

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Zahid,

On 1/6/20 3:13 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using a version from
>  2015

A version of what?

> and Apache Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
Apache Struts 2.5.x supports Java 7 and later. I see no official
documentation recommending a specific Java version over any others.

> Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off
> topic and Giant IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK
> 8.

Maybe just not for free.

https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk13-downloads
- -5672538.html
https://www.azul.com/category/java13/

Admittedly, Oracle's JDK/JRE is based upon
https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/13/ so maybe that doesn't count
as a separate release.

But no, IBM doesn't appear to have a new version beyond Java 11.

> The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
> Apache Foundation.

So you found a problem with a package provided by Ubuntu/Debian, and
your solution was to install the official Maven package from the
Apache Software Foundation. And your conclusion is that the ASF is the
miserable and disgraceful party, here?

I'm so confused.

It's worth pointing-out that there is no enforced coordination between
ASF projects. Some of them work together in almost lock-step, like APR
and httpd. Others are completely de-coupled. Some ignore each other
(e.g. Apache Maven and Apache Tomcat). It's up to the individual
projects to determine if/how they will work together.

You may wish to read a little more about the ASF before you make
blanket statements about it.
https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html

If you are dissatisfied with the ASF communities (or maybe just a few
in particular), may I suggest that you take one of these two courses
of action:

1. Volunteer to improve the situation. Usually in the form of
patches/PRs to that project.

2. Take your complaints elsewhere.

- -chris

> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:
> 
>> On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
>>> To all ubuntu Maven  users.
>> 
>> This is off-topic for this mailing list.
>> 
>> Please keep posts on this list on topic.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Do NOT  install maven using sudo apt install maven
>>> 
>>> Install by  direct download  only  from 
>>> https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
>>> 
>>> BECAUSE:
>>> 
>>> "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven
>>> which differs from the Apache source.
>>> 
>>> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
>>> suggests it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
>>> 
>>> If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
>>> and
>> follow
>>> the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then
>>> you
>> shouldn't
>>> see those warnings. " ‐---
>>> 
>>> The Java 11 warning mentions that
>>> "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a class named
>>> "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
>>> 
>>> This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses
>>> the "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB
>>> classes. It suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven
>>> has replaced the
>> "no-AOP"
>>> version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on
>>> Java 11. (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies
>>> on certain
>> reflective
>>> access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
>>> doesn't.)
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[zahid]

Thank you sir.

I was truly lucky because I don't know how this Apache organisation  
works at the moment.


Now I can prototype a rather complex skeleton application I am working 
on with a stable


environment, without concern for platform warnings.

Best Regards

Zahid

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On 06/01/2020 23:34, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:

Le 06/01/2020 à 21:24, Zahid Rahman a écrit :


Don't shoot the messenger.

You are not sending the message to the right list, there is nothing the
Tomcat developers can do to fix this issue. This should be brought to
debian-j...@lists.debian.org instead (Debian is the source of Ubuntu
Java packages).

But you are lucky because beside maintaining Tomcat in Debian, I also
maintain Maven, and thanks to your message I've filled the bugs to
address this issue [1][2].

Emmanuel Bourg

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/948309
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/948310

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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Emmanuel Bourg]

Le 06/01/2020 à 21:24, Zahid Rahman a écrit :

> Don't shoot the messenger.

You are not sending the message to the right list, there is nothing the
Tomcat developers can do to fix this issue. This should be brought to
debian-j...@lists.debian.org instead (Debian is the source of Ubuntu
Java packages).

But you are lucky because beside maintaining Tomcat in Debian, I also
maintain Maven, and thanks to your message I've filled the bugs to
address this issue [1][2].

Emmanuel Bourg

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/948309
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/948310

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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

It was the maven team which informed me the issue is with ubuntu compiling
wrong classes incorrectly as described.

Now all my software is running without warnings.

I can also use any jdk  even the bleeding jdk version.

People are using maven and jdk with Tomcat.

Don't shoot the messenger.



On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 20:17 Michael Osipov,  wrote:

> Am 2020-01-06 um 21:13 schrieb Zahid Rahman:
> > That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using  a version from 2015
> > and Apache  Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
> >
> >   Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off topic
> > and Giant  IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK 8.
> >
> > The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
> Apache
> > Foundation.
>
> This still has absolutely *nothing* to do with Tomcat. Complain to
> Debian for modifying packages. The Maven Team rejects any kind of source
> code modifications.
>
>
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> >>> To all ubuntu Maven  users.
> >>
> >> This is off-topic for this mailing list.
> >>
> >> Please keep posts on this list on topic.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Do NOT  install maven using
> >>> sudo apt install maven
> >>>
> >>> Install by  direct download  only  from
> >>> https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> >>>
> >>> BECAUSE:
> >>>
> >>> "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven which
> >>> differs from the Apache source.
> >>>
> >>> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
> suggests
> >>> it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> >>>
> >>> If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and
> >> follow
> >>> the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then you
> >> shouldn't
> >>> see those warnings. "
> >>> ‐---
> >>>
> >>> The Java 11 warning mentions that "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has
> a
> >>> class named "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> >>>
> >>> This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses the
> >>> "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB classes. It
> >>> suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven has replaced the
> >> "no-AOP"
> >>> version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on Java
> 11.
> >>> (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies on certain
> >> reflective
> >>> access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
> doesn't.)
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Michael Osipov]

Am 2020-01-06 um 21:13 schrieb Zahid Rahman:

That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using  a version from 2015
and Apache  Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.

  Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off topic
and Giant  IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK 8.

The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by Apache
Foundation.


This still has absolutely *nothing* to do with Tomcat. Complain to 
Debian for modifying packages. The Maven Team rejects any kind of source 
code modifications.




On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:


On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:

To all ubuntu Maven  users.


This is off-topic for this mailing list.

Please keep posts on this list on topic.

Thanks,

Mark




Do NOT  install maven using
sudo apt install maven

Install by  direct download  only  from
https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi

BECAUSE:

"I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven which
differs from the Apache source.

( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602  suggests
it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )

If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and

follow

the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then you

shouldn't

see those warnings. "
‐---

The Java 11 warning mentions that "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a
class named "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"

This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses the
"no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB classes. It
suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven has replaced the

"no-AOP"

version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on Java 11.
(The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies on certain

reflective

access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version doesn't.)




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Re: [OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Zahid Rahman]

That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using  a version from 2015
and Apache  Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.

 Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off topic
and Giant  IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK 8.

The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by Apache
Foundation.


On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas,  wrote:

> On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > To all ubuntu Maven  users.
>
> This is off-topic for this mailing list.
>
> Please keep posts on this list on topic.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> > Do NOT  install maven using
> > sudo apt install maven
> >
> > Install by  direct download  only  from
> > https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> >
> > BECAUSE:
> >
> > "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven which
> > differs from the Apache source.
> >
> > ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602  suggests
> > it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> >
> > If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and
> follow
> > the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then you
> shouldn't
> > see those warnings. "
> >‐---
> >
> > The Java 11 warning mentions that "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a
> > class named "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> >
> > This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses the
> > "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB classes. It
> > suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven has replaced the
> "no-AOP"
> > version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on Java 11.
> > (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies on certain
> reflective
> > access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version doesn't.)
> >
>
>
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[OT] Re: Maven Warning. Ubuntu Users

[Mark Thomas]

On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> To all ubuntu Maven  users.

This is off-topic for this mailing list.

Please keep posts on this list on topic.

Thanks,

Mark


> 
> Do NOT  install maven using
> sudo apt install maven
> 
> Install by  direct download  only  from
> https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
> 
> BECAUSE:
> 
> "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven which
> differs from the Apache source.
> 
> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602  suggests
> it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
> 
> If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and follow
> the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then you shouldn't
> see those warnings. "
>‐---
> 
> The Java 11 warning mentions that "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a
> class named "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
> 
> This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses the
> "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB classes. It
> suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven has replaced the "no-AOP"
> version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on Java 11.
> (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies on certain reflective
> access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version doesn't.)
> 


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