Re: JavaZone presentation follow up

2007-09-13 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 9/12/07, karthik Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Congrats!

 47 slides! how long was the talk?


It took 55 minutes, including some very basic demo of a datatable component
with filters and sort (from the databinder baseball players example), of
Ajax components (using the guestbook demo and quickly showing the source
code), a live demo of community activity (number of e-mails sent on the
mailing lists during the talk) and a more detailed demo of the custom
component (I didn't show the slides with source code, but rather the actual
source in eclipse with more detailed explanation). I first thought I could
showcase detailed error reporting with a bad wicket id in the custom
component demo, but I was too short in time.

In the past i have had trouble running
 through all of them in little less than an hour. I have mine coming up
 late
 october in India and i have only 50 minutes to sell Wicket!.


It can work, it depends on how long you spend on each point. Maybe I talked
a little bit too quickly (with the stress of the presentation, controlling
the speech flow is not easy). Watching the recorded talk would be the best
to evaluate the time, but I don't think it'll be available before october.

I like the reference to Pro JSF  Ajax - I had the exact same feeling
 reading that book sometime back and i even pinged Eelco and told him.


I didn't actually read the book, but I attended to a talk from the authors
at last javapolis, and was not convinced by the simplicity of creating
custom components for JSF they were talking about. I first thought I could
bring the book to show it instead of having just a cover picture, but I
forgot it in my hotel room :-)

How I wish I had learnt JSF before coming to wicket - Am supposed to do a
 session comparing both. So in my spare time am forced to try out exercises
 in JSF - its so painful to go backwards in life ! :-(


 I understand your pain :-) Some points of comparison from what I know of
JSF (I may be wrong): control over your URLs, use of HTTP verbs (GET vs
POST) and of course custom components.

Also this -


 http://chillenious.wordpress.com/2006/05/12/a-word-about-custom-components/


Yes, I quoted a phrase from this wonderful post!

Btw, do you mind if i re-use some of your slide contents ? ;-)


Sure, no problem, most of the slides are from Martjin's presentation anyway
:-)

Xavier

thanks,
 Karthik


 On 9/12/07, Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Wicket community,
 
  I've just finished my presentation on Wicket at JavaZone! Presentation
  outline:
  * What is Wicket
  * Wicket core concepts
  * Creating a custom component with Wicket
 
  The slides I've used are available here:
  http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.ppt
 
  The source code (as an eclipse project, with all required libs, no ant
 nor
  maven build, sorry) is available here:
  http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.zip
 
  From my point of view the presentation went pretty well, the room was
  almost
  packed, if only I had a better spoken english level maybe I would have
  wake
  up a few tired attendees in the back :-)
 
  Thanks to all of you who helped me prepare the presentation, and special
  thanks to Eelco and the JavaZone committee to have trust me to replace
 him
  for this talk.
 
  Xavier
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  http://xhab.blogspot.com/
  http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/
  http://www.xoocode.org/
 



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Re: JavaZone presentation follow up

2007-09-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Congrats! And thank you for finally getting Wicket a presentation at
JavaZone. Third time is a charm ('05 and '06 we had to pass, and if
not for you '07 would also be a JavaZone without Wicket)

So thanks!

Martijn

On 9/12/07, Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Wicket community,

 I've just finished my presentation on Wicket at JavaZone! Presentation
 outline:
 * What is Wicket
 * Wicket core concepts
 * Creating a custom component with Wicket

 The slides I've used are available here:
 http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.ppt

 The source code (as an eclipse project, with all required libs, no ant nor
 maven build, sorry) is available here:
 http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.zip

 From my point of view the presentation went pretty well, the room was almost
 packed, if only I had a better spoken english level maybe I would have wake
 up a few tired attendees in the back :-)

 Thanks to all of you who helped me prepare the presentation, and special
 thanks to Eelco and the JavaZone committee to have trust me to replace him
 for this talk.

 Xavier
 --
 Xavier Hanin - Independent Java Consultant
 http://xhab.blogspot.com/
 http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/
 http://www.xoocode.org/



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Re: JavaZone presentation follow up

2007-09-12 Thread Jan Kriesten

hi xavier,

 I've just finished my presentation on Wicket at JavaZone!

congrats! and thanks for providing the ppt - i'll take it as inspiration for my
presentation in october. :-)

regards, --- jan.



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Re: JavaZone presentation follow up

2007-09-12 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 9/12/07, Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Wicket community,

 I've just finished my presentation on Wicket at JavaZone! Presentation
 outline:
 * What is Wicket
 * Wicket core concepts
 * Creating a custom component with Wicket

 The slides I've used are available here:
 http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.ppt

 The source code (as an eclipse project, with all required libs, no ant nor
 maven build, sorry) is available here:
 http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.zip

 From my point of view the presentation went pretty well, the room was almost
 packed, if only I had a better spoken english level maybe I would have wake
 up a few tired attendees in the back :-)

 Thanks to all of you who helped me prepare the presentation, and special
 thanks to Eelco and the JavaZone committee to have trust me to replace him
 for this talk.

Thanks a lot for talking Xavier! I hope you have fun over there :-)

Eelco

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Re: JavaZone presentation follow up

2007-09-12 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 9/12/07, Gerolf Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi xavier,

 nice presentation.
 plz let us know how it went, how many attendees, etc...


It went pretty well, people seemed interested, well, at least those who were
awake :-) It's difficult to say how many attendees there was, I'd say about
150 or 200, but I'm not very good to evaluate an audience size. The room was
almost packed anyway, with even a few people standing up. At the end I had a
few people asking questions (5 or 6), including people who told me they were
very interested by Wicket and impressed by the ease of use of what they've
seen during the talk. The talk was recorded, so hopefully you'll be able to
ear my horrible accent in a near future :-)

Xavier


hf at javazone,
   gerolf

 On 9/12/07, Jan Kriesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  hi xavier,
 
   I've just finished my presentation on Wicket at JavaZone!
 
  congrats! and thanks for providing the ppt - i'll take it as inspiration
  for my
  presentation in october. :-)
 
  regards, --- jan.
 
 
 
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Re: JavaZone presentation follow up

2007-09-12 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 9/12/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/12/07, Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Wicket community,
 
  I've just finished my presentation on Wicket at JavaZone! Presentation
  outline:
  * What is Wicket
  * Wicket core concepts
  * Creating a custom component with Wicket
 
  The slides I've used are available here:
  http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.ppt
 
  The source code (as an eclipse project, with all required libs, no ant
 nor
  maven build, sorry) is available here:
  http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.zip
 
  From my point of view the presentation went pretty well, the room was
 almost
  packed, if only I had a better spoken english level maybe I would have
 wake
  up a few tired attendees in the back :-)
 
  Thanks to all of you who helped me prepare the presentation, and special
  thanks to Eelco and the JavaZone committee to have trust me to replace
 him
  for this talk.

 Thanks a lot for talking Xavier! I hope you have fun over there :-)


Oslo is a very beautilful city and we are lucky enough to have sunny days.
And javazone is a very nice conference, somewhat weird by some aspects (I'm
not used to see a heavy metal concert for the opening show of a conference
:-)). So yes I have fun!

Xavier

Eelco

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Re: JavaZone presentation follow up

2007-09-12 Thread karthik Guru
Congrats!

47 slides! how long was the talk? In the past i have had trouble running
through all of them in little less than an hour. I have mine coming up late
october in India and i have only 50 minutes to sell Wicket!.

I like the reference to Pro JSF  Ajax - I had the exact same feeling
reading that book sometime back and i even pinged Eelco and told him.
How I wish I had learnt JSF before coming to wicket - Am supposed to do a
session comparing both. So in my spare time am forced to try out exercises
in JSF - its so painful to go backwards in life ! :-(

Also this -

http://chillenious.wordpress.com/2006/05/12/a-word-about-custom-components/

Btw, do you mind if i re-use some of your slide contents ? ;-)

thanks,
Karthik


On 9/12/07, Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Wicket community,

 I've just finished my presentation on Wicket at JavaZone! Presentation
 outline:
 * What is Wicket
 * Wicket core concepts
 * Creating a custom component with Wicket

 The slides I've used are available here:
 http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.ppt

 The source code (as an eclipse project, with all required libs, no ant nor
 maven build, sorry) is available here:
 http://people.apache.org/~xavier/wicket/wicket-javazone-07.zip

 From my point of view the presentation went pretty well, the room was
 almost
 packed, if only I had a better spoken english level maybe I would have
 wake
 up a few tired attendees in the back :-)

 Thanks to all of you who helped me prepare the presentation, and special
 thanks to Eelco and the JavaZone committee to have trust me to replace him
 for this talk.

 Xavier
 --
 Xavier Hanin - Independent Java Consultant
 http://xhab.blogspot.com/
 http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/
 http://www.xoocode.org/




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