[xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs
Hi Johannes, everyone, actually this is sort of repsonse to Johannes @jstoldt contribution here http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Back-to-the-future-of-XWiki-tt6084764.html regarding VM's and it is off-topic in either dev and user. Johannes, why not drill deeper into this VM stuff ? If you have spare time leftover and want to contribute - why not be the first one to create an Amazon EC2 xwiki image ? For newbies there are free Amazon EC2 accounts: http://aws.amazon.com/de/free/ When creating a VM I'd check for an Ubuntu Ready-to-go image - there are several hanging around. Check the Ubuntu website for a recommendation. Of course Linux background is beneficial - might be mandatory. However with Ubuntu many installations are pretty straight forward and well documented - installation of database (postgres ?) - webserver (tomcat ?) and an XWiki .war should be straightforward. When you're are done and all is running fine you can make a template of it for others to use. I'd be interested in a report. I'd love to do it but I'm lacking time now ... As here is no real forum for this we might continue correspondence in another place. WDYT ? Andreas ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs
On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote: I think it's kind of easy to create one VM. The issue is that we need an easy way to create them everytime there is a new version. Best would be a solution to create them using maven. We should check if there is any progress in this area. On this topic I had created http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3243 -Vincent Ludovic Le 10/03/11 10:55, Andreas Hahn a écrit : Hi Johannes, everyone, actually this is sort of repsonse to Johannes @jstoldt contribution here http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Back-to-the-future-of-XWiki-tt6084764.html regarding VM's and it is off-topic in either dev and user. Johannes, why not drill deeper into this VM stuff ? If you have spare time leftover and want to contribute - why not be the first one to create an Amazon EC2 xwiki image ? For newbies there are free Amazon EC2 accounts: http://aws.amazon.com/de/free/ When creating a VM I'd check for an Ubuntu Ready-to-go image - there are several hanging around. Check the Ubuntu website for a recommendation. Of course Linux background is beneficial - might be mandatory. However with Ubuntu many installations are pretty straight forward and well documented - installation of database (postgres ?) - webserver (tomcat ?) and an XWiki .war should be straightforward. When you're are done and all is running fine you can make a template of it for others to use. I'd be interested in a report. I'd love to do it but I'm lacking time now ... As here is no real forum for this we might continue correspondence in another place. WDYT ? Andreas ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] Problem with tags and accented characters (XWiki 2.7)
Hello, I've a problem with Tags and accented characters. When I use the Tags [+] at page bottom and I type a word with accented characters in the little window then add, I get this kind of result : vélocipède (for vélocipède and I can't delete or rename it after that and get error message. Does anyone have a solution? -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Problem-with-tags-and-accented-characters-XWiki-2-7-tp6157230p6157230.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs
Am 10.03.2011 11:16, schrieb Ludovic Dubost: I think it's kind of easy to create one VM. The issue is that we need an easy way to create them everytime there is a new version. Best would be a solution to create them using maven. We should check if there is any progress in this area. I see. But this approach doesn't help users for the migration of their existing instances - right ? And you are moving huge data (AMIs) around 10+GB i guess. So why not go with a single image that may be old and have the same update instructions / procedure for new and existing instances ? Andreas Ludovic Le 10/03/11 10:55, Andreas Hahn a écrit : Hi Johannes, everyone, actually this is sort of repsonse to Johannes @jstoldt contribution here http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Back-to-the-future-of-XWiki-tt6084764.html regarding VM's and it is off-topic in either dev and user. Johannes, why not drill deeper into this VM stuff ? If you have spare time leftover and want to contribute - why not be the first one to create an Amazon EC2 xwiki image ? For newbies there are free Amazon EC2 accounts: http://aws.amazon.com/de/free/ When creating a VM I'd check for an Ubuntu Ready-to-go image - there are several hanging around. Check the Ubuntu website for a recommendation. Of course Linux background is beneficial - might be mandatory. However with Ubuntu many installations are pretty straight forward and well documented - installation of database (postgres ?) - webserver (tomcat ?) and an XWiki .war should be straightforward. When you're are done and all is running fine you can make a template of it for others to use. I'd be interested in a report. I'd love to do it but I'm lacking time now ... As here is no real forum for this we might continue correspondence in another place. WDYT ? Andreas ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs
Hi everyone, First of all, I agree with Ludovic and Vincent, a new VM should be created every time a new version is out. It obviously is a lot of data that needs to be stored but the problem with not having an up to date VM is that people who just want to check out XWiki in a ready to go and possibly production ready environment most likely do not want to bother with setting up the VM and immediately having to upgrade the XWiki instance before they can try the latest version. Anyway, either I did not make myself clear or you missed the notion that I am not really a huge fan of VMs. On the one hand it can be hard to integrate pre-built VMs with a companies IT systems, on the other hand, AFAIK, there is no really free VM software that can be used in corporations. What I had in mind was a package that will provide everything necessary to easily create a ready-for-production-use environment including an easy to use configuration wizard. I further thought about upgrade packages and restructuring the XE documents to ease upgrading. Also, I am neither very familiar with VMs nor Linux, so I am probably really not the best person for doing this kind of a job. Regards, Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Off-topic-Xwiki-and-VMs-tp6157103p6157366.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs
Hi Johannes, On Mar 10, 2011, at 12:41 PM, jstoldt wrote: Hi everyone, First of all, I agree with Ludovic and Vincent, a new VM should be created every time a new version is out. It obviously is a lot of data that needs to be stored but the problem with not having an up to date VM is that people who just want to check out XWiki in a ready to go and possibly production ready environment most likely do not want to bother with setting up the VM and immediately having to upgrade the XWiki instance before they can try the latest version. I'm not sure I understand you here. If you want something already made for you you have to pay something for it (since someone will need to host your solution, set it up, maintain it, etc). * xwiki.org offers myxwiki.org (paid by XWiki SAS) for non business needs (non profit + individuals) * XWiki SAS offers XWiki Cloud: http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Offer/Cloud Now for upgrades, this is the role of the Extension Manager to handle the application upgrade part (which is the only hard part of the upgrade). Anyway, either I did not make myself clear or you missed the notion that I am not really a huge fan of VMs. On the one hand it can be hard to integrate pre-built VMs with a companies IT systems, on the other hand, AFAIK, there is no really free VM software that can be used in corporations. Personally I agree that I'd prefer to focus xwiki.org devs on install wizard, extension manager, etc rather than building VMs which is more business-oriented IMO and is costly to do (XWiki SAS or other companies could provide this for business users). Thanks -Vincent What I had in mind was a package that will provide everything necessary to easily create a ready-for-production-use environment including an easy to use configuration wizard. I further thought about upgrade packages and restructuring the XE documents to ease upgrading. Also, I am neither very familiar with VMs nor Linux, so I am probably really not the best person for doing this kind of a job. Regards, Johannes ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Problem with tags and accented characters (XWiki 2.7)
Hi, You should check your encoding settings and make sure that you have UTF-8. This application can help you do that: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Check+Config+And+Indexes+Application (CheckDBEncoding page) Hope this helps, Oana On 03/10/2011 12:47 PM, Pidoux75 wrote: Hello, I've a problem with Tags and accented characters. When I use the Tags [+] at page bottom and I type a word with accented characters in the little window then add, I get this kind of result : vélocipède (for vélocipède and I can't delete or rename it after that and get error message. Does anyone have a solution? -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Problem-with-tags-and-accented-characters-XWiki-2-7-tp6157230p6157230.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Oana Tabaranu ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs
Am 10.03.2011 12:41, schrieb jstoldt: Hi everyone, First of all, I agree with Ludovic and Vincent, a new VM should be created every time a new version is out. It obviously is a lot of data that needs to be stored but the problem with not having an up to date VM is that people who just want to check out XWiki in a ready to go and possibly production ready environment most likely do not want to bother with setting up the VM and immediately having to upgrade the XWiki instance before they can try the latest version. Anyway, either I did not make myself clear or you missed the notion that I am not really a huge fan of VMs. On the one hand it can be hard to integrate pre-built VMs with a companies IT systems, on the other hand, AFAIK, there is no really free VM software that can be used in corporations. FWIW: http:www.virtualbox.org is truly FOSS easy to deploy and maintain on Linux and Windows - very mature and we're running small farm on it. Highly recommendable. Many hosters use XEN (just Linux) however. What I had in mind was a package that will provide everything necessary to easily create a ready-for-production-use environment including an easy to use configuration wizard. I further thought about upgrade packages and restructuring the XE documents to ease upgrading. Also, I am neither very familiar with VMs nor Linux, so I am probably really not the best person for doing this kind of a job. Regards, Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Off-topic-Xwiki-and-VMs-tp6157103p6157366.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs
Hi, Vincent, about the part you had trouble understanding, I was merely trying to reason why the idea Andreas had about only creating a VM every once in a while and not on a regular basis (i.e. for every version) is not good according to my oppinion. Anyway, great that we agree on the wizard and so forth. Andreas, about VirtualBox, at least the full edition is not suitable for business use if the company aims for using software with a free license. The extension for RDP, for instance, is not part of the Open Source Edition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Box#Licensing and http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads). Be that as it may, I am not all in favor for VMs for the other reasons I mentioned so we do not have to discuss this bit in length. Regards, Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Off-topic-Xwiki-and-VMs-tp6157103p6157669.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] LDAP Plugin documentation update
Hello, I've updated plugin description page for LDAP plugin http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/LDAP+Tools#HLDAPconfigurationsection with information I recently needed (LDAP configuration properties description table). Could someone, please verify if it's feasible. Thanks. Roman -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/LDAP-Plugin-documentation-update-tp6158052p6158052.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Drop mailing lists in favor of a forum software
Andreas, I am aware that web-forums may scale better in some ways. All the complaints I and others have formulated about moving to web-forum relate to the ease of use of email-based traffic: - receive all the forum posts per email - respond to them by email If it is possible to get at least these functions I think no-one will object of having the main storage be something different than a mailing-list and, indeed, it would allow us to use extra features of a web-forum to better manage (e.g. indicate interest or disinterest to a thread or a filter). I have repeatedly attempted to set-up web-forums to this effect and I never managed to get this fully working. The refinement of the handling the mails and the errors of such a tool as mailman will be hard to beat. Please contradict me! Please review the arguments and see if they can be answered. paul Le 10 mars 2011 à 07:24, Andreas Hahn a écrit : Hi everyone, as for your morning entertainment I'll tell a little shortstory. Get yourself a coffee - relax - and a few mins to read and think about it. Back in 2004 2 Java Developers that were upset about EJBs published a book with their thoughts and recommendations about how J2EE software developement should be done in their minds. The 2 guys were Rod Johnson and Juergen Hoeller, the book was J2EE Development without EJB, and [] ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Drop mailing lists in favor of a forum software
On 03/10/2011 05:39 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote: Andreas, I am aware that web-forums may scale better in some ways. All the complaints I and others have formulated about moving to web-forum relate to the ease of use of email-based traffic: - receive all the forum posts per email - respond to them by email If it is possible to get at least these functions I think no-one will object of having the main storage be something different than a mailing-list and, indeed, it would allow us to use extra features of a web-forum to better manage (e.g. indicate interest or disinterest to a thread or a filter). +1. I have repeatedly attempted to set-up web-forums to this effect and I never managed to get this fully working. The refinement of the handling the mails and the errors of such a tool as mailman will be hard to beat. Please contradict me! Please review the arguments and see if they can be answered. paul Le 10 mars 2011 à 07:24, Andreas Hahn a écrit : Hi everyone, as for your morning entertainment I'll tell a little shortstory. Get yourself a coffee - relax - and a few mins to read and think about it. Back in 2004 2 Java Developers that were upset about EJBs published a book with their thoughts and recommendations about how J2EE software developement should be done in their minds. The 2 guys were Rod Johnson and Juergen Hoeller, the book was J2EE Development without EJB, and [] -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
