Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Haru haru_mamb...@mail.ru wrote: Hi, All! Clean XEM 4.3. Default page set. I wan't to set multilanguage support. Multilingual: YES Supported languages : en, ru, uk, fr Default Language : ru After I click on save, XWiki takes default language from browser and shows me uk as default, ignoring default language settings. Moreover, there is no languages available, besides en (as shown on the picture http://awesomescreenshot.com/04cqa3uc7 ) Any ideas how to fix it? First of all, in your screenshot the default language is set to en. Then, you need to understand the distinction between the language of the UI (menu text, button labels, notification messages, etc.) and the document language (the language of the content of a document). The list of available languages you are referring to, displayed on the top right side of the page, represents the list of languages the content of the current document has been translated to. In this particular case, the content of XWiki.XWikiPreferences document has been translated only in English, which is normal because this page contains code, and code shouldn't be translated. If you create a new wiki page, you'll see that there is a panel that lets you translate the content in any of the supported languages. Once you translate the content you'll see the languages listed in the top right corner. Hope this helps, Marius Kind regards, Dmitry ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
Thanks a lot for help, Marius. Yes, I made screenshot english to be readable. It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings? Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 11:15 от Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Haru haru_mamb...@mail.ru wrote: Hi, All! Clean XEM 4.3. Default page set. I wan't to set multilanguage support. Multilingual: YES Supported languages : en, ru, uk, fr Default Language : ru After I click on save, XWiki takes default language from browser and shows me uk as default, ignoring default language settings. Moreover, there is no languages available, besides en (as shown on the picture http://awesomescreenshot.com/04cqa3uc7 ) Any ideas how to fix it? First of all, in your screenshot the default language is set to en. Then, you need to understand the distinction between the language of the UI (menu text, button labels, notification messages, etc.) and the document language (the language of the content of a document). The list of available languages you are referring to, displayed on the top right side of the page, represents the list of languages the content of the current document has been translated to. In this particular case, the content of XWiki.XWikiPreferences document has been translated only in English, which is normal because this page contains code, and code shouldn't be translated. If you create a new wiki page, you'll see that there is a panel that lets you translate the content in any of the supported languages. Once you translate the content you'll see the languages listed in the top right corner. Hope this helps, Marius Kind regards, Dmitry ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users Kind regards, Dmitry ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote: It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings? There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
Thanks a lot, Sergiu! The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do we have default language in UI? Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best option, IMHO. Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.org: On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote: It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings? There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users Kind regards, Dmitry ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Haru haru_mamb...@mail.ru wrote: Thanks a lot, Sergiu! The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do we have default language in UI? I think the default language you set in the Localization section of the administration refers to the document content not to the UI. It is the default content language when you create a new document. Hope this helps, Marius Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best option, IMHO. Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.org: On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote: It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings? There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users Kind regards, Dmitry ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
On 12/19/2012 04:55 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Haru haru_mamb...@mail.ru wrote: Thanks a lot, Sergiu! The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do we have default language in UI? I think the default language you set in the Localization section of the administration refers to the document content not to the UI. It is the default content language when you create a new document. Almost. To be more precise, it's the default language to fall back when: - the language(s) requested browser are not available - a document doesn't specify its default language When creating a new document, the default language is the current context language. But it is NOT the default language that users will see unless they explicitly select another one. The setting I mentioned is the one that moves the behavior closer to what you expect. Hope this helps, Marius Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best option, IMHO. Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.org: On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote: It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings? There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
On 12/19/2012 03:29 PM, Haru wrote: Thanks a lot, Sergiu! The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do we have default language in UI? It's the expected behavior, at least with the way translations work at the moment. I'm not happy with the current mechanism, but changing it requires a lot of refactoring. Configured default wiki language is different from document default language, which can be set for each document. See my other reply for what the default wiki language actually does. Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best option, IMHO. I agree, this should be a setting configurable in each wiki, or even space. Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.org: On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote: It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings? There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki and multilingual support bug?
Thanks a lot for help, Sergiu! Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 20:10 от Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.org: On 12/19/2012 03:29 PM, Haru wrote: Thanks a lot, Sergiu! The problem was following: default language is set in UI in XWiki (it was ru), but was ignored. Is it a bug to jira it? Or it is expected behaviour? If it's expected, why do we have default language in UI? It's the expected behavior, at least with the way translations work at the moment. I'm not happy with the current mechanism, but changing it requires a lot of refactoring. Configured default wiki language is different from document default language, which can be set for each document. See my other reply for what the default wiki language actually does. Moreover, in XEM it could be possible to have different default languages in workspaces, so xwiki.cfg hidden setting is not the best option, IMHO. I agree, this should be a setting configurable in each wiki, or even space. Среда, 19 декабря 2012, 13:40 от Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.org : On 12/19/2012 04:34 AM, Haru wrote: It's clear now with pages, but why UI falls into browser default language in abovementioned configuration, ignoring default language settings? There's a hidden setting in xwiki.cfg, xwiki.language.preferDefault Edit xwiki.cfg, find and uncomment that line and set it to 1. Restart XWiki. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users Kind regards, Dmitry ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
