Re: [vchkpw] Moving from Netscape Mail server to Qmail+Vpopmail?
Rick Romero wrote: On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 09:13, Gonzalo G. Agulló wrote: Hi, -snip- I also need to preserve users' current ciphered passwords (SHA-1) as stored in ldap directory, but cannot find sha support in vpopmail (despite courier's authdaemon understands SHA passwords). How can I keep users passwords, if possible? I belive : --enable-learn-passwords=y|n Turn on (y) or off (n, default) if password is blank, learn password when they pop auth. would work for that at least. (5.3.8) Rick Thank you! It's a very valuable workaround I will consider, but question about SHA support is still on the air.
[vchkpw] dot character as domain separator (ATCHARS)?
Hi, As required by a migration I'm involved with, pop/imap login names have to be formatted as 'username(dot)domain(dot).com', using dot as a separator instead of common % characters. I took a look at source code and found ATCHARS defined in vpopmail.h. Is it safe to add the dot sign? Might break code? I did the test and it seems to work ok, but unsure if might find problems elsewhere Thanx
Re: [vchkpw] dot character as domain separator (ATCHARS)?
On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:47:36 +0200 Gonzalo G. Agulló[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As required by a migration I'm involved with, pop/imap login names have to be formatted as 'username(dot)domain(dot).com', using dot as a separator instead of common @% characters. I took a look at source code and found ATCHARS defined in vpopmail.h. Is it safe to add the dot sign? Might break code? I did the test and it seems to work ok, but unsure if might find problems elsewhere Might lead to problems with e-mail-addresses like a.gullo@ -- Pit
Re: [vchkpw] Moving from Netscape Mail server to Qmail+Vpopmail?
more than 1 year ago i've got almost the same questions, when had to migrate from netscape messaging server. as i found no answers, so decide to do work by myself. first of all, i wrote a small program on C to parse LDIF from netscape' exported user database. things got exported: mailboxes, quotas, aliases, forwarders, passwords in (yeah) SHA-1 standard. next thing: i found a way to create password hashes in SHA-1. as we have only one mail domain serviced by netscape there no support for domains parsing, but it shouldnt be too hard to add such support. mailboxes created leaved empty, all their contents leaved on old server, so users had to download their emails manually. if you are interested i can send you that my old work - Original Message - From: Gonzalo G. Agulló [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: [vchkpw] Moving from Netscape Mail server to Qmail+Vpopmail? Hi, I'm trying to migrate from Netscape Mail to Qmail. I got qmail, vpopmail and courier-imap installed, but I have some doubts about the migrating path to get as many features as posible without users intervention. I'd like to preserve the NS Mail ldap scheme for the users database using Openldap, but I read some comments about advising not to use vpopmail's ldap module but vpasswd.cdb local db or mysql db. Currently it's running without ldap, just local cdb, and it's working fine with Courier imapd, but courier-popd fails to authenticate (same username and password is accepted ok via imapd). I configured popd to use the same authdaemon configuration as imapd but it refuses all logins. I traced logs, tested authtest tool and everything seems ok. If I get back to qmail-pop3d with vchkpw enabled, it does work. Dunno why! I also need to preserve users' current ciphered passwords (SHA-1) as stored in ldap directory, but cannot find sha support in vpopmail (despite courier's authdaemon understands SHA passwords). How can I keep users passwords, if possible? My users currently use a username.domain.com scheme as pop usernames to login to their mailboxes at Netscape server. I'm trying to use the dot as domain separator when they login to vpopmail/courier, but I didn't find info about that subject. Is that supported? My target is qmail+vpopmail+ldap+courier+imp to get the same services as of netscape, with mailboxes contents and users database transparently moved to qmail, but I don't have a clear migrating path yet to get the same features with no user impact. :( Advice would be very welcome, specially on users directoy, sha-1 and domain separator stuff. Thanks
Re: [vchkpw] Moving from Netscape Mail server to Qmail+Vpopmail?
Vladimir, thank you for your mail, If I understand you ok, you used an exported ldif file from netscape to setup all your existing mail accounts to qmail/vpopmail, right? Using ldap as auth engine on vpopmail's ldap module, or local userdb files? My testing setup is using vpopmail's local cdb files. I should add ldap support to really migrate my current setup maintaining the current structure, but docs and comments from vpopmail people discourage me from ldap usage, so I'm worried on this. Why yes, why not? You imported your cyphered SHA-1 strings from netscape database, ok. Then, once inserted in vpopmail users database, vchkpw and authdaemon recognize such SHA-1 strings to validate users' passwords? Rick Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] pointed to --enable-learning-passwords as an alternate feature for some migrating projects. It's a good option, just in case. But direct support for SHA-1 password would be 100% straight to the problem. And about mailboxes, I found out that their contents can be copied to each user's Maildir/new directory (after parsing them with any dos2unix tool, to remove extra trailing CR/LF). Good point is that it's an easy way to restore messages from the older server. Bad point is that all those old messages appear as new stuff in INBOX, not preserving previous folders estructure. If you can send that work, it'd be great, thank you Will keep in contact to discuss some migration questions, on list or privately if it becomes too specific for the list... Vladimir Kabanov wrote: more than 1 year ago i've got almost the same questions, when had to migrate from netscape messaging server. as i found no answers, so decide to do work by myself. first of all, i wrote a small program on C to parse LDIF from netscape' exported user database. things got exported: mailboxes, quotas, aliases, forwarders, passwords in (yeah) SHA-1 standard. next thing: i found a way to create password hashes in SHA-1. as we have only one mail domain serviced by netscape there no support for domains parsing, but it shouldnt be too hard to add such support. mailboxes created leaved empty, all their contents leaved on old server, so users had to download their emails manually. if you are interested i can send you that my old work - Original Message - From: Gonzalo G. Agulló [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: [vchkpw] Moving from Netscape Mail server to Qmail+Vpopmail? Hi, I'm trying to migrate from Netscape Mail to Qmail. I got qmail, vpopmail and courier-imap installed, but I have some doubts about the migrating path to get as many features as posible without users intervention. I'd like to preserve the NS Mail ldap scheme for the users database using Openldap, but I read some comments about advising not to use vpopmail's ldap module but vpasswd.cdb local db or mysql db. Currently it's running without ldap, just local cdb, and it's working fine with Courier imapd, but courier-popd fails to authenticate (same username and password is accepted ok via imapd). I configured popd to use the same authdaemon configuration as imapd but it refuses all logins. I traced logs, tested authtest tool and everything seems ok. If I get back to qmail-pop3d with vchkpw enabled, it does work. Dunno why! I also need to preserve users' current ciphered passwords (SHA-1) as stored in ldap directory, but cannot find sha support in vpopmail (despite courier's authdaemon understands SHA passwords). How can I keep users passwords, if possible? My users currently use a username.domain.com scheme as pop usernames to login to their mailboxes at Netscape server. I'm trying to use the dot as domain separator when they login to vpopmail/courier, but I didn't find info about that subject. Is that supported? My target is qmail+vpopmail+ldap+courier+imp to get the same services as of netscape, with mailboxes contents and users database transparently moved to qmail, but I don't have a clear migrating path yet to get the same features with no user impact. :( Advice would be very welcome, specially on users directoy, sha-1 and domain separator stuff. Thanks
Re: [vchkpw] Moving from Netscape Mail server to Qmail+Vpopmail?
If I understand you ok, you used an exported ldif file from netscape to setup all your existing mail accounts to qmail/vpopmail, right? -- absolutely Using ldap as auth engine on vpopmail's ldap module, or local userdb files? -- no, just mysql as storage You imported your cyphered SHA-1 strings from netscape database, ok. Then, once inserted in vpopmail users database, vchkpw and authdaemon recognize such SHA-1 strings to validate users' passwords? -- yes, some vpopmail code was modified to support this format. so you can have sha-1 passwords md-5 passwords at the same time.
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail and OpenLDAP with kerberos ?
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[vchkpw] Getting POP3 mail from shell accounts?
Is it possible to get emails for a local user using pop3? It seems like vpopmail only looks for virtual users.. I created a .qmail file for the virtual user set up with the same name redirecting mail to the local user. They end up ok in the users maildir- but how do I get them from there? /S
[vchkpw] Forwarding problem
Hi all ! I'm using qmail with vpopmail and qmailadmin. My poblem is, when I create an alias or a forward for an address. Everything goes just right, The mail arrives at its' destination and the From field Remains the same as in the original message. BUT When I modify an account and set KEEP FORWARD Then the mail forwards to the desination BUT the Header of the message changes so to FROM FIELD will be The following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone help me how to make vpopmail and Qmailadmin to set such forwards, that doesn't Change the FROM field in a message? Thanks in advance. PS. Sorry for my bad english... Bye, Gerg
[vchkpw] New user with problems!
Hello, My name is Kanzie and I am glad to be a new member to this list supporting a excellent tool. However I have run into problems getting it correctly configured and I do have spent my hours in all manuals and howtos I can find, not very many. The problem is still there and no matter what I try to think of or do it just wont go away. I am very new to Linux as a operative system which only contributes to the problem I guess ;-) To the facts, when I make a connection to port 110 the vchkpw-daemon greets me and everything seems fine, I enter USER $username get the OK, then enter $password and get Authentification failed as response. At first I thought it was something fishy with the crypt()-library but looking into the logs showed something else. The syslog says: Oct 7 18:03:02 morrison vpopmail[15408]: vchkpw: setgid 89 failed errno 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:127.0.0.1 The origin of the problem could be that I already had the GID 89 taken by some weird symba mailinglistmanager that I never installed. I did groupdel and userdel and then followed the instructions, but still... Thank in advance for any help I might get! BTW: The accounts is accurate Mandrake 8.2, paranoid-mode latest qmail with ezmlm and checkpasswd, though checkpasswd has been disabled for the use of vchkpw // Kanzie
Re: [vchkpw] New user with problems!
Hi Kanzie , In order to authenticate on a virtual domain basis, you muse provide the username including the domain, as: USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] PASS * This is, because since you can have multiple domains using only one IP address the user must specify which domain does he belong. That should solve your problem. Have a nice Day ! El lun, 07-10-2002 a las 10:58, Christian [Kanzie] Nilsson escribió: Hello, My name is Kanzie and I am glad to be a new member to this list supporting a excellent tool. However I have run into problems getting it correctly configured and I do have spent my hours in all manuals and howtos I can find, not very many. The problem is still there and no matter what I try to think of or do it just wont go away. I am very new to Linux as a operative system which only contributes to the problem I guess ;-) To the facts, when I make a connection to port 110 the vchkpw-daemon greets me and everything seems fine, I enter USER $username get the OK, then enter $password and get Authentification failed as response. At first I thought it was something fishy with the crypt()-library but looking into the logs showed something else. The syslog says: Oct 7 18:03:02 morrison vpopmail[15408]: vchkpw: setgid 89 failed errno 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:127.0.0.1 The origin of the problem could be that I already had the GID 89 taken by some weird symba mailinglistmanager that I never installed. I did groupdel and userdel and then followed the instructions, but still... Thank in advance for any help I might get! BTW: The accounts is accurate Mandrake 8.2, paranoid-mode latest qmail with ezmlm and checkpasswd, though checkpasswd has been disabled for the use of vchkpw // Kanzie
RE: [vchkpw] Major autorespond problems.
Of course it is going to block the messages. It thinks that she is spamming it with a whole lot of messages. It is doing exactly what it was designed to do. I have never heard of anyone that CC's themselves to make sure the message is delivered. Why not put a request on the message so the client sends the recieved and read message back to her like most people do. The thing is, there is no problem with vpopmail or the autoresponder. It is how they or you are trying to use it. There are reason's it is setup like it is. To prevent autoresponder loops. What if her autoresponder responds to another autoresponder, then that one responds back, and yes another autoresponder get's in the loop because someone else has one, then it responds back. Before you know it you have hundreds of duplicate messages because of looping issues. The reason it is stopping at 3 messages is because it see's the message as coming from HER. Which infact it is coming from her. So it hits the 3 message limit from one individual. EXACTLY how it is designed and configured. --- Brad Dameron Network Account Executive TSCNet Inc. www.tscnet.com Silverdale, WA. 1-888-8TSCNET -Original Message- From: Steve Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:01 AM To: vpopmail list Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vchkpw] Major autorespond problems. Hi all, Some of you may recall my recent troubles/complaints with autorespond (which is required for the QmailAdmin package), and how I went about trying to solve it. For what its worth, my efforts appear to have failed. Let me explain. I have had a number of complaints from a very large corporate client regarding delayed e-mails. These complaints are getting steadily worse. Some can be attributed to issues not related to the function of the mail server in question, but unfortunately most can. To best explain what is happening, I am going to demonstrate how this situation comes about, step by step. 1. High-powered corporate executive sends out many e-mails to many employees each day. This executive follows company policy and CC's herself on every message she sends. She also, like many in her company, makes use of the vacation/autoresponder function within QmailAdmin daily. 2. Executive sends 5 e-mails one morning. She notices that she receives only 3 of her CC'ed copies, and receives the others later (ranging from 1 to 5 days, usually during the weekend [clue!]). She receives complaints from others, who also use vacation/autoresponder [clue!]. 3. Diligent sysadmin checks logs .. delivering okay. Sysadmin checks queue .. hmm, missing messages in queue. Sysadmin -HUP's qmail-send and see's some messages delivered, sometimes, and sometimes none. Sysadmin checks logs, and see's messages from autorespond saying too many messages received from user, delaying. I hope you're still with me. This is what I believe is happening: The messages are being delivered, and auto-responses are being sent until the hard-coded limit of 3 messages in 86400 minutes (1 day) from a single user are received. Then autorespond does not send an response to the sender, and for some reason, the original message is NOT delivered and is re-queued for later. That is not acceptable. This problem occurred using an unmodified autorespond (2.03) and using my modified version of that program (which was supposed to pass the proper error codes to vdelivermail). Has anyone else experienced this? There are three ways I can approach solving this: 1. Remove the vacation/autorespond option from my customers. Unfortunately this is not an option. 2. Modify QmailAdmin to increase the autorespond limits it creates within the users .qmail file. I'm tempted to increase them 100 fold just to save some hassle, but this doesn't solve the overall issue. 3. Work to fix this, even if it means modifying autorespond again. And there is also the possibility that autoresponder isn't the entire problem, but vdelivermail as well (which explains why I'm posting this on the Vpopmail list). So, without further ado, a little help? -- Steve
Re: [vchkpw] Forwarding problem
On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:15:46 +0200 Medgyesi Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I modify an account and set KEEP FORWARD Then the mail forwards to the desination BUT the Header of the message changes so to FROM FIELD will be The following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.) Which vpopmail version 2.) Which qmailadmin version 3.) What's the result of cat ~vpopmail/domains/$domain/$user/.qmail with '$domain' replaced with your domain name and '$user' replaced with correct user name whom the 'keep forward' is setup for??? I've tested your scenario and can't confirm your problem with vpopmail v5.3.8 qmailadmin v1.0.6. -- Pit
[vchkpw] New user with problems!
Not quite, I was a bit sloppy writing my mail, ofcoarse I provide the correct domain according to your recommendation. This does not solve my problem unfortunally! Any more ideas? // Kanzie // Hello, My name is Kanzie and I am glad to be a new member to this list supporting a excellent tool. However I have run into problems getting it correctly configured and I do have spent my hours in all manuals and howtos I can find, not very many. The problem is still there and no matter what I try to think of or do it just wont go away. I am very new to Linux as a operative system which only contributes to the problem I guess ;-) To the facts, when I make a connection to port 110 the vchkpw-daemon greets me and everything seems fine, I enter USER $username get the OK, then enter $password and get Authentification failed as response. At first I thought it was something fishy with the crypt()-library but looking into the logs showed something else. The syslog says: Oct 7 18:03:02 morrison vpopmail[15408]: vchkpw: setgid 89 failed errno 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:127.0.0.1 The origin of the problem could be that I already had the GID 89 taken by some weird symba mailinglistmanager that I never installed. I did groupdel and userdel and then followed the instructions, but still... Thank in advance for any help I might get! BTW: The accounts is accurate Mandrake 8.2, paranoid-mode latest qmail with ezmlm and checkpasswd, though checkpasswd has been disabled for the use of vchkpw // Kanzie
Re: [vchkpw] Forwarding problem
On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:11:54 +0200 Medgyesi Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the answers for your questions: 1. vpopmail 5.2.1 (Should I upgrade ??) 2. qmailadmin 1.0.6 3. Here's what vpopmail/domains/$domain/$user/.qmail contains: ( is the test user name...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/vpopmail/domains/nyke.hu//Maildir/ I completely can't understand this, because if I copy these lines to: vpopmail/domains/$domain/.qmail-any_user_name_here file, than the forwarding works fine, and the form field remains the same as in the original mail. So it seems 'vdelivermail' in vpopmail-5.2.1 has problems with '' styled forwards in '~vpopmail/domains/$domain/$user/.qmail' files. For testing purposes could you change [EMAIL PROTECTED] to |forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] manually? Nevertheless, all in all, I guess you'll need to upgrade to 5.3.8 which I'd personally call 'stable' to get this working, as even if '|forward' syntax works you'd have to modify qmailadmin. Therefore it might be an idea to give 5.3.8 a try, as as I said it work here, using exactly this version, flawless. -- Pit
RE: [vchkpw] Forwarding problem 5.3.8
Hi ! Nooo I screamed, after installing vpopmail 5.3.8, because the problem remained the same.. Any idea? Bye, Gergo -Original Message- From: Peter Palmreuther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Forwarding problem On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:11:54 +0200 Medgyesi Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the answers for your questions: 1. vpopmail 5.2.1 (Should I upgrade ??) 2. qmailadmin 1.0.6 3. Here's what vpopmail/domains/$domain/$user/.qmail contains: ( is the test user name...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/vpopmail/domains/nyke.hu//Maildir/ I completely can't understand this, because if I copy these lines to: vpopmail/domains/$domain/.qmail-any_user_name_here file, than the forwarding works fine, and the form field remains the same as in the original mail. So it seems 'vdelivermail' in vpopmail-5.2.1 has problems with '' styled forwards in '~vpopmail/domains/$domain/$user/.qmail' files. For testing purposes could you change [EMAIL PROTECTED] to |forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] manually? Nevertheless, all in all, I guess you'll need to upgrade to 5.3.8 which I'd personally call 'stable' to get this working, as even if '|forward' syntax works you'd have to modify qmailadmin. Therefore it might be an idea to give 5.3.8 a try, as as I said it work here, using exactly this version, flawless. -- Pit
[vchkpw] RE: [qmailadmin] RE: [vchkpw] Major autorespond problems.
This is correct. It should still deliver the message just not respond to it. --- Brad Dameron Network Account Executive TSCNet Inc. www.tscnet.com Silverdale, WA. 1-888-8TSCNET -Original Message- From: Tom Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: vpopmail list; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [qmailadmin] RE: [vchkpw] Major autorespond problems. But I think the intended/preferred behavior should be to not send the autoresponse, yet still receive the original message into the mailbox. At least that's how I understood the original message, and how I understood the behavior of autorespond. Autorespond shouldn't do anything to affect the delivery of the original message. It should only decide whether to respond or not. On Monday, October 7, 2002, at 11:21 AM, Brad Dameron wrote: Of course it is going to block the messages. It thinks that she is spamming it with a whole lot of messages. It is doing exactly what it was designed to do. I have never heard of anyone that CC's themselves to make sure the message is delivered. Why not put a request on the message so the client sends the recieved and read message back to her like most people do. -- Tom Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[vchkpw] RE: [qmailadmin] RE: [vchkpw] Major autorespond problems.
This looks to be another vpopmail bug. There are a few still out there that have not been corrected even after being reported many times. Not sure how often it is being worked on anymore. As I don't see many status reports or even responses to bugs being posted. I for one have posted a bug and how to reproduce it several times and have yet to get a response back. --- Brad Dameron Network Account Executive TSCNet Inc. www.tscnet.com Silverdale, WA. 1-888-8TSCNET -Original Message- From: Tom Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: vpopmail list; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [qmailadmin] RE: [vchkpw] Major autorespond problems. But I think the intended/preferred behavior should be to not send the autoresponse, yet still receive the original message into the mailbox. At least that's how I understood the original message, and how I understood the behavior of autorespond. Autorespond shouldn't do anything to affect the delivery of the original message. It should only decide whether to respond or not. On Monday, October 7, 2002, at 11:21 AM, Brad Dameron wrote: Of course it is going to block the messages. It thinks that she is spamming it with a whole lot of messages. It is doing exactly what it was designed to do. I have never heard of anyone that CC's themselves to make sure the message is delivered. Why not put a request on the message so the client sends the recieved and read message back to her like most people do. -- Tom Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
