Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Graziano Pavone
Hi Reinhard

2007/11/13, Reinhard Nissl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Are there any problems in submitting the needed patch to the mainstream
  xine-lib distribution?

 The problem is that small parts of the patch would break binary
 compatibility in xine-lib-1.1.x. This is no problem if a distribution
 decides to include the patch and recompiles all applications which use
 xine-lib-1.1.x.

 I still do provide those patches as not all people are willing to switch
 to xine-lib-1.2 (hg) which is still in development, contains the patches
 and therefore works out of the box.


This is a very good news. As soon as 1.2 version will be stable it will be
much more easy to use vdr-xine.
Picture quality seems better to me in vdr-xine than in xineliboutput, so
I'll be happy to go back to vdr-xine, I just didn't want to do all the
patching anymore (expecially because it was needed both on client and
servers in my networked enviroment). The new network feature is a big step
forward (finding the network-patch for every new release was a pain), but
xine-lib patch was still needed...

Does it mean that a linux distro that include xine-lib-1.2 will be able to
connect to a networked VDR-xine installation without the need of anything
else apart from xine?



 I only have Skystar2/Airstai2 budget cards, so it's not an issue for me.
  A feature that allows to watch different channels on clients at the same
  time (without using multiple vdr installations and streamdev) would
  definetely make me switch back to vdr-xine :)

 And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this goal?


This feature is so interesting that I certainly wouldn't mind, even if it
would a very good feature to be included in the 1.5 vdr release... :)

Thanks
Graziano
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[vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread syrius . ml
Graziano Pavone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]
 And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this goal?

 This feature is so interesting that I certainly wouldn't mind, even if it
 would a very good feature to be included in the 1.5 vdr release... :)

imho that's a feature that must be in 1.5 !
as with the smart channel management.

utf8 and subtitles are great achievements, what's next ? :-)

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Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:49:50AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 imho that's a feature that must be in 1.5 !
 as with the smart channel management.
 
 utf8 and subtitles are great achievements, what's next ? :-)

I would love to have VDR support H.264 recording on DVB-S.
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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread alexw
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 13:19:39 Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:41:05PM +0100, alexw wrote:
  On Tuesday 13 November 2007 15:16:32 Graziano Pavone wrote:
Hi,
   
Using my PS3 as a vdr client is also my target. But I experienced bad
(de-)interlacing when watching SD TV using SD output (even with right
resolution). I am now waiting the new HV xorg driver to have more
control on
the video than the already available fb blit mechanism. I did rewrite
the fb
driver of xinelib to enhace it with ps3 blit functionality and
virtual fb but
it did not improve the output quality. By the way, the PS3 have a
colorspace
issue to display the OSD with proper color palette under the fb. (X
is not affected by this)
   
Actually I am using streamdev and xineliboutput together.
Xineliboutput is good to pilot the server side from any linux based
system.
Streamdev + FF card + vdr is the best deal for client device (I am
using this
solution over wifi and it works like a charm)
Streamdev + m3u patch is ideal to use VLC with playlist and allow Win
OS to
access the TV programs.
  
   Hi,
   I would like to use my PS3 as vdr client as well.
   I'm currently using xineliboutput for my other client (on a standard
   PC), so this would be my first choice, but I've no problem to switch
   back to vdr-xine (which I used in the past - with the network patch...
   I moved to xineliboutput just because I don't want to patch xine-lib
   everytime anymore..)
  
Can you give more details of what are you using on your PS3?
  
   Thanks,
   Graziano
 
  Sure,
 
  Standard FC 7 (I will soon upgrade it to FC 8)
  modified version of iwconfig to allow wpa-psk(2) to work
  Xine-lib cvs (v1.1.6)
  vdr-sxfe or vdr-fbfe as needed
  The PS3 is connected to a SD TV set.
 
  As you can see it is not something complicated. Apparently when trying
  the same thing with HD (720p/1080p) television gives better result.
  (talking about picture quality) To enhance the picture quality on a SD TV
  you can deinterlace in sw before displaying the picture. The drawback is
  that an interlaced source is de-interlaced then interlaced again to coop
  with PAL standard.

 If you do that (deinterlace, then interlace again) you lose half of the
 framerate if you're using normal plugins for deinterlacing..

 interlaced tv is 50/60 fields/sec, and after deinterlacing you usually end
 up with 25/30 frames/sec.. half of the motion/movement information just
 disappeared.

 end result is that your live video (series,sports,news) starts to look like
 jerky and shaky..

 If you have interlaced output best option would be to display each field as
 it comes in (1:1).. then you would get best possible quality.

 If you have progressive display device, then best option is to use
 full-fps deinterlacing, meaning 50 fields/sec ends up 50 frames/sec, or
 even 100 frames/sec containing all the motion/movement info..

 -- Pasi

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Hi,

I did test 1:1 output (PAL 720x576 - 720x576) but due to bad VSYNC the output 
is shaky. The kernel API provided for the vsync is not working very well with 
SD content. Unfortunately I do not have a progressive display.

Rgds,

Alex


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Re: [vdr] dxr3 and 1.5.11 antialiasing

2007-11-14 Thread Jan Willies
Luca Olivetti wrote:
 En/na Jan Willies ha escrit:
 
 After upgrading from 1.5.2 to 1.5.11 I ran into some problems with my 
 dxr3 card. The first one was solved by setting AntiAlias = 0 in 
 setup.conf. But after that, VDR won't even start:

 vdr: [3936] ERROR: FreeType: error during FT_Render_Glyph 32, 3
 vdr: [3936] ERROR: FreeType: error during FT_Render_Glyph 32, 3
 vdr: [3936] ERROR: FreeType: error during FT_Render_Glyph 32, 3
 Speicherzugriffsfehler

 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.vdr/33161/).So is this a freetype 
 problem? wrong font? More infos needed?

 libfreetype6 2.3.5-1+b1
 libfreetype6-dev 2.3.5-1+b1
 
 FWIW I have 2.3.1 (the version that came with mandriva 2007.1).

Seems that debian only has Version: 2.3.5-1+b1 and Version: 
2.2.1-5+etch1. Unfortunately, 2.2.1 seems pretty old when trying to 
downgrade:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   libmagick++9c2a: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 
is to be installed.
   libfontconfig1: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is 
to be installed.
   libgd2-noxpm: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is 
to be installed.
   xpdf-utils: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is to 
be installed.
   fontconfig: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is to 
be installed.
   libxfont1: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is to 
be installed.
   libpango1.0-0: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is 
to be installed.
   xpdf-reader: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is to 
be installed.
   libpoppler1: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is to 
be installed.
   xfonts-utils: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is 
to be installed.
   libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 
2.2.1-5+etch1 is to be installed.
   perlmagick: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch1 is to 
be installed.

I don't want to hose my system, so I guess I'm waiting for an freetype 
upgrade in debian.


- Jan


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Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Lauri Tischler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Graziano Pavone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [...]
 And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this goal?

 This feature is so interesting that I certainly wouldn't mind, even if it
 would a very good feature to be included in the 1.5 vdr release... :)
 
 imho that's a feature that must be in 1.5 !
 as with the smart channel management.
 
 utf8 and subtitles are great achievements, what's next ? :-)

You have to ask Santa-Klaus  ;)

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Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread VDR User
On Nov 14, 2007 4:23 AM, Gregoire Favre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would love to have VDR support H.264 recording on DVB-S.

I know a lot of people, including myself, who agree!

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Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/14/07 17:24, Lauri Tischler wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Graziano Pavone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [...]
 And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this goal?

 This feature is so interesting that I certainly wouldn't mind, even if it
 would a very good feature to be included in the 1.5 vdr release... :)
 imho that's a feature that must be in 1.5 !
 as with the smart channel management.

 utf8 and subtitles are great achievements, what's next ? :-)
 
 You have to ask Santa-Klaus  ;)

H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware
devices that can replay it (aka Full Featured DVB cards).
I am not interested in software players that might not even run
on my 450 MHz VDR.

Until then, normal MPEG2/DVB-S does just fine for me.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread VDR User
On Nov 14, 2007 8:36 AM, Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware
 devices that can replay it (aka Full Featured DVB cards).
 I am not interested in software players that might not even run
 on my 450 MHz VDR.

 Until then, normal MPEG2/DVB-S does just fine for me.

Ouch!

Well, maybe we should all chip in a couple dollars and buy Klaus a new
pc that can handle h264.  Can build one for just a couple hundred
bucks.

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Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/14/07 17:57, VDR User wrote:
 On Nov 14, 2007 8:36 AM, Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware
 devices that can replay it (aka Full Featured DVB cards).
 I am not interested in software players that might not even run
 on my 450 MHz VDR.

 Until then, normal MPEG2/DVB-S does just fine for me.
 
 Ouch!
 
 Well, maybe we should all chip in a couple dollars and buy Klaus a new
 pc that can handle h264.  Can build one for just a couple hundred
 bucks.

My VDR is just fine ;-)

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-14 Thread Reinhard Nissl
Hi,

Klaus Schmidinger schrieb:

 H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware
 devices that can replay it (aka Full Featured DVB cards).
 I am not interested in software players that might not even run
 on my 450 MHz VDR.
 
 Until then, normal MPEG2/DVB-S does just fine for me.

I don't think that the ability to replay HD content is required to take
over the patches. It would simply be nice to have a vanilla VDR 1.5.x
which is able to handle H.264 content.

Did you ever record or replay MPEG2 HD content?
Have you ever seen or used a FF card for MPEG2 HD content?
Though, VDR has the ability to handle MPEG2 HD content.

And I don't think that we will see a FF card which can handle H.264. Gfx
cards take over that business and once the VA API is released and
supported, those functionality will even be available on Linux.

So whenever you like, feel free to contact me regarding integration of
H.264 support. Till then, I'll try to provide updated patches, so there
is no need to hurry.

Bye.
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Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread rjkm
Klaus Schmidinger writes:
  On 11/14/07 17:24, Lauri Tischler wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Graziano Pavone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   [...]
   And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this 
   goal?
  
   This feature is so interesting that I certainly wouldn't mind, even if it
   would a very good feature to be included in the 1.5 vdr release... :)
   imho that's a feature that must be in 1.5 !
   as with the smart channel management.
  
   utf8 and subtitles are great achievements, what's next ? :-)
   
   You have to ask Santa-Klaus  ;)
  
  H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware
  devices that can replay it (aka Full Featured DVB cards).
  I am not interested in software players that might not even run
  on my 450 MHz VDR.
  
  Until then, normal MPEG2/DVB-S does just fine for me.
  


Well, there is the HD-Extension card by Reel. It has no tuner but one
can just use a seperate tuner card or hope somebody builds a version with
added tuner/tuners in the future.
One could even run VDR on a stand-alone board with the same decoder
chip. But again, somebody would first have to build it in quantity.


Ralph

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[vdr] compiling dxr3 plugin against vdr-1.5.11

2007-11-14 Thread YUP
Hi,

Did anybody try to compile dxr3 plugin from source from e-tobi 
repositories against 1.5.11 tree? Any luck?


Regards,

Y.

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