Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 2.1.3

2014-01-06 Thread VDR User
Whatever gets implemented, please make sure the user can disable it. I
can't remember why but VDR's internal channel population has never
worked right for NA so it's better to be kept as optional when it
comes to auto-removing channels, parsing si tables, etc.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 2.1.3

2014-01-06 Thread Udo Richter
Am 06.01.2014 09:59, schrieb Reinhard Nissl:
> But this still seems error prone -- looks like a more complex solution
> is needed which keeps track of how often a transponder has been seen
> dead over a certain period of time before declaring these channels
> OBSOLETE (and later delete them automatically).
> 
> I don't know if it is worth to extend the file format of channels.conf
> for that tracking, but at least in memory VDR could keep track of that,
> starting from scratch whenever VDR is restarted.

I have a little patch running doing exactly this, the patch just tracks
the last-seen timestamp within the running session, or the state 'not
seen in this session'. Load/save is not implemented, everything gets
reset at program start. Its a whopping 8-lines patch.

This is accompanied by a plugin that extends the last-seen time by
syncing with the patch data from time to time, and keep the time
together with the channel ID persistently stored in a separate file.

If a channel wasn't announced for a month, it gets marked as gone.
However, this doesn't differentiate why a channel wasn't seen, for
example because the machine was off for a longer time, or the required
receiver isn't connected.


Cheers,

Udo

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[vdr] diseqc.conf for Spaun and quad-LNBs

2014-01-06 Thread Martin Lang

Hi all,

I recently moved to Australia and now an looking to make my vdr work.
I have two quad LNBs (single local oscillator frequency) attached to a 
Spaun 9x7 multi-switch.


The spaun is set to "Quad mode".
For the S156E position ("satellite A") I can tune to both H+V and run a 
channel scan.
For the satellite "B" (S160E) I cannot tune anything - neither with vdr 
nor with dvbscan.


On S156E I have a Foxtel (Sky-equivalent) box attached and it tunes 
nicely, too. So maybe the Foxtel box did send some commands to the LNB 
which made it work, whereas on S160E this did not happen (yet) ?


Can anybody please help with the correct diseqC.conf ?
My attempt (see below) to modify the one from 
http://www.vdr-portal.de/index.php?page=Thread&postid=927921

did not work so far.

Thanks
Martin


# from this thread
# http://www.vdr-portal.de/index.php?page=Thread&postid=927921
# multiswitch + 2x Quad LNBs

##Multischalter Eingang A
#S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t
#S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T
#S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t
#S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T
##Multischalter Eingang B
#S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t
#S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T
#S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t
#S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T
#
#Multischalter Eingang A
S156E 9 V 10700 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t
#S156E 9 V 10700 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T
S156E 9 H 10700 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t
#S156E 9 H 10700 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T
#Multischalter Eingang B
#S160E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t
S160E 9 V 10700 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T
#S160E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t
S160E 9 H 10700 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T


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Re: [vdr] [PATCH] Update satellites in default sources.conf

2014-01-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 06.01.2014 13:39, Antti Hartikainen wrote:

On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 12:24:38PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 06.01.2014 11:28, Antti Hartikainen wrote:

Hi.

I thought it would be time to finally update outdated sources.conf. Patch is 
against sources.conf delivered with VDR 2.1.3.

Some things came up, and I would like to hear some opinions about them.

There was/is entries like:

S28.2E for Astra 2 satellites and
S28.5E for Eutelsat satellite at almost same orbital position

Both satellites are supposed to be watched with one dish and LNB, but still 
they have their own entries in sources.conf.

Similar example is "S1W Thor 5/6 & Intelsat 10-02". Thor satellites are 
positioned 0.2 degrees apart from Intelsat.

So should these satellites nearby eachother to be combined as one, or should 
every one to be separated as its own position?


If these are officially two separate positions, they should be contained as such
in sources.conf.
I have encountered the same problem while implementing the DiSEqC configuration
dialog. My approach will be to make cDiseqcs::Get() search for a suitable
DiSEqC entry with a certain tolerance. A value of +/-0.3 degrees would cover
the cases you mentioned. Or should it be even +/-0.5?


This is why I wanted to join them together, so if such change will be made, 
separate close to eachother positions don't really matter. I think
0.5 degrees might be too much apart (depends of configuration.. dish size specially) 
and rare condition, and making VDR to steer dish "in
between" two would make too much complicity, right?


This "tolerance" would mainly apply to setups that have a fixed dish pointing to
a position at which there are two satellites close together. In my upcoming 
DiSEqC
configuration dialog it will be only possible to specify *one* sat position per
LNB, so the tolerance will allow receiving both positions in such cases. Whether
the dish is actually directed to either one of the satellites, or "in between",
is up to the user, depending on which position his preferred.

If you have a motor dish it will always be positioned exactly to the
requested angle, so there's no need to go "in between". And that's also a reason
why sources.conf should contain separate values in such cases.


Thanks for the revised patch (v3).

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] [PATCH] Update satellites in default sources.conf

2014-01-06 Thread Antti Hartikainen
Oops, S16E is still wrong in v2, please check this v3 instead.
--- sources.conf.orig   2013-05-23 13:10:23.0 +0300
+++ sources.conf2014-01-06 14:43:07.354491730 +0200
@@ -19,57 +19,59 @@
 
 # Europe
 
-S3E Eutelsat 3A & Rascom 1R
-S4E Eurobird 4A
-S4.8E   Astra 4A
-S7E Eutelsat W3A
-S9E Eurobird 9A
-S10EEutelsat W2A
-S13EHotbird 6/8/9
-S16EEutelsat W2M & Eurobird 16A
-S19.2E  Astra 1H/1KR/1L/1M/2C
-S21.6E  Eutelsat W6
-S23.5E  Astra 3A/3B
-S25.5E  Eurobird 2
+S3E Eutelsat 3A/3D & Rascom 1R
+S4E Eutelsat 4B
+S4.8E   Astra 4A & SES 5
+S7E Eutelsat 7A
+S9E Eutelsat 9A/Ka-Sat 9A
+S10EEutelsat 10A
+S13EEutelsat Hot Bird 13B/13C/13D
+S16EEutelsat 16A/16B
+S17EAmos 5
+S19.2E  Astra 1KR/1L/1M/2C
+S21.6E  Eutelsat 21B
+S23.5E  Astra 3B
+S25.5E  Eutelsat 25B
 S26EBadr 4/5/6
-S28.2E  Astra 2A/2B/2D
-S28.5E  Eurobird 1
+S28.2E  Astra 1N/2A/2F
+S28.5E  Eutelsat 28A
 S30.5E  Arabsat 5A
 S31.5E  Astra 1G
-S33EEurobird 3 & Intelsat New Dawn
-S36EEutelsat W4/W7
-S38EPaksat 1
+S33EEutelsat 33A & Intelsat 28
+S36EEutelsat 36A/36B
+S38EPaksat 1R
 S39EHellas Sat 2
-S40EExpress AM1
 S42ETurksat 2A/3A
 S45EIntelsat 12
+S46EAzerspace-1
+S47.5E  Intelsat 10
 S49EYamal 202
+S52.5E  Yahsat 1A
 S53EExpress AM22
-S55EInsat 3E
-S56EBonum 1
+S56EDirecTV 1R
 S57ENSS 12
 S60EIntelsat 904
 S62EIntelsat 902
 S64EIntelsat 906
 S66EIntelsat 17
 S68.5E  Intelsat 7/10
-S70.5E  Eutelsat W5
-S72EIntelsat 709
+S70.5E  Eutelsat 70B
+S72EIntelsat 22
 
 # Asia
 
 S74EInsat 3C/4CR
 S75EABS 1A
-S76.5E  Apstar 2R
-S78.5E  Thaicom 5
-S80EExpress AM2/MD1
-S83EInsat 2E/4A
-S85.2E  Intelsat 15
-S87.5E  Chinasat 5A
-S88EST 1/2
-S90EYamal 201
+S76.5E  Apstar 7
+S78.5E  Thaicom 5/6A
+S80EExpress AM2
+S83EInsat 4A
+S85.2E  Intelsat 15 & Horizons 2
+S87.5E  ChinaSat 12
+S88EST 2
+S90EYamal 201/300K
 S91.5E  Measat 3/3A
-S92.2E  Chinasat 9
+S92.2E  ChinaSat 9
 S93.5E  Insat 3A/4B
 S95ENSS 6
 S96.5E  Express AM33
@@ -77,21 +79,22 @@
 S103E   Express A2
 S105.5E Asiasat 3S
 S108.2E Telkom 1 & NSS 11 & SES 7
-S110E   N-Sat 110 & BSAT 2C/3A
-S110.5E Chinasat 10
+S110E   N-Sat 110 & BSAT 3A/3C
+S110.5E ChinaSat 10
 S113E   Palapa D & Koreasat 5
-S116E   Koreasat 6
+S115.5E ChinaSat 6B
+S116E   ABS 7 & Koreasat 6
 S118E   Telkom 2
+S119.5E Thaicom 4
 S122.2E Asiasat 4
-S124E   JCSAT 4A
-S125E   Chinasat 6A
-S128E   JCSAT RA
-S132E   Vinasat 1 & JCSAT5A
+S124E   JCSAT 4B
+S125E   ChinaSat 6A
+S128E   JCSAT 3A
+S132E   Vinasat 1/2 & JCSAT 5A
 S134E   Apstar 6
 S138E   Telstar 18
 S140E   Express AM3
 S144E   Superbird C2
-S146E   ABS 5
 S150E   JCSAT 1B
 S152E   Optus D2
 S154E   JCSAT 2A
@@ -99,73 +102,73 @@
 S160E   Optus D1
 S162E   Superbird B2
 S164E   Optus B3
-S166E   Intelsat 8
-S169E   Intelsat 5
-S172E   GE 23
-S180E   Intelsat 701
+S166E   Intelsat 19
+S169E   Intelsat 8
+S172E   Eutelsat 172A
+S180E   Intelsat 18
 S177W   NSS 9
 
 # Atlantic
 
 S1W Thor 5/6 & Intelsat 10-02
 S4W Amos 2/3
-S5W Atlantic Bird 3
-S7W Nilesat 101/102/201 & Atlantic Bird 4A
-S8W Telecom 2D & Atlantic Bird 2
+S5W Eutelsat 5 West A
+S7W Nilesat 101/201 & Eutelsat 7 West A
+S8W Eutelsat 8 West A/C
 S11WExpress AM44
-S12.5W  Atlantic Bird 1
+S12.5W  Eutelsat 12 West A
 S14WExpress A4
 S15WTelstar 12
 S18WIntelsat 901
-S20WNSS 5
-S22WNSS 7
+S20WNSS 7
+S22WSES 4
 S24.5W  Intelsat 905
 S27.5W  Intelsat 907
-S30WHispasat 1C/1D/1E
+S30WHispasat 1D/1E
 S31.5W  Intelsat 25
 S34.5W  Intelsat 903
 S37.5W  NSS 10 & Telstar 11N
-S40.5W  NSS 806
+S40.5W  SES 6
 S43WIntelsat 11
 S45WIntelsat 14
 S50WIntelsat 1R
-S53WIntelsat 707
+S53WIntelsat 23
 S55.5W  Intelsat 805
-S58WIntelsat 9/16
-S61WAmazonas 1/2
+S58WIntelsat 21
+S61WAmazonas 2/3
 
 # America
 
-S61.5W  Echostar 12/15
+S61.5W  Echostar 16
 S63WTelstar 14R
 S65WStar One C1
+S67WAMC 4
 S70WStar One C2
 S72WAMC 6
-S72.5W  DirecTV 1R & Nimiq 5
-S74WHorizons 2
-S77WEchostar 1/8
-S79WAMC 2/5
+S72.7W  Nimiq 5
+S75WStar One C3
+S77WQuetzSat 1
 S82WNimiq 4
 S83WAMC 9
 S84WBrasilsat B4
 S85WAMC 16
 S85.1W  XM 3
-S87WAMC 3
+S87WSES 2
 S89WGalaxy 28
-S91WGalaxy 17 & Nimiq 1
-S93WGalaxy 25
+S91WGalaxy 17 & Nimiq 6
+S93.1W  Galaxy 25
 S95WGalaxy 3C
 S97WGalaxy 19
-S99WGalaxy 16
-S99.2W  Spaceway 2 & DirecTV 11
+S99.2W  Galaxy 16
 S101W   DirecTV 4S/8 & SES 1
 S103W   AMC 1
 S105W   AMC 15/18
-S107.3W Anik F1/F1R
+S107.3W Anik F1R/G1
 S110W   DirecTV 5 & Echostar 10/11
 S111.1W Anik F2
 S113W   SatMex 6
-S116.8W SatMex 5
+S114.9W SatMex 5
+S116.8W SatMex 8
 S118.8W Anik F3
 S119W   Echostar 14 & DirecTV 7S
 S121W   Echostar 9/Galaxy 23
@@ -174,7 +177,7 @@
 S127W   Galaxy 13/Horizons 1
 S129W   Ciel 2
 S131W   AMC 11
-S133W   Galaxy 13/15
+S133W   

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] Update satellites in default sources.conf

2014-01-06 Thread Antti Hartikainen
On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 12:24:38PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> On 06.01.2014 11:28, Antti Hartikainen wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I thought it would be time to finally update outdated sources.conf. Patch 
> > is against sources.conf delivered with VDR 2.1.3.
> >
> > Some things came up, and I would like to hear some opinions about them.
> >
> > There was/is entries like:
> >
> > S28.2E for Astra 2 satellites and
> > S28.5E for Eutelsat satellite at almost same orbital position
> >
> > Both satellites are supposed to be watched with one dish and LNB, but still 
> > they have their own entries in sources.conf.
> >
> > Similar example is "S1W Thor 5/6 & Intelsat 10-02". Thor satellites are 
> > positioned 0.2 degrees apart from Intelsat.
> >
> > So should these satellites nearby eachother to be combined as one, or 
> > should every one to be separated as its own position?
> 
> If these are officially two separate positions, they should be contained as 
> such
> in sources.conf.
> I have encountered the same problem while implementing the DiSEqC 
> configuration
> dialog. My approach will be to make cDiseqcs::Get() search for a suitable
> DiSEqC entry with a certain tolerance. A value of +/-0.3 degrees would cover
> the cases you mentioned. Or should it be even +/-0.5?

This is why I wanted to join them together, so if such change will be made, 
separate close to eachother positions don't really matter. I think 
0.5 degrees might be too much apart (depends of configuration.. dish size 
specially) and rare condition, and making VDR to steer dish "in 
between" two would make too much complicity, right?

> > In this patch I have combined 28.2E and 28.5E positions as one 28.2E 
> > position, as atleast I have set them both up as one single position.
> 
> Sorry, I don't think this is a good idea.
> Please make them separate again if you want your patch to be adopted.

Thanks for the feedback. I wasn't aware if this is intentional or just by 
mistake. I changed it back to two separate positions in revised patch.

> > I also wanted to change S1W to S0.8W, as it's more true, but I can imagine 
> > it would cause a lot of trouble for people who are using the default
> > sources.conf file as their sources.conf, so for now I left it as is. It 
> > doesn't really matter, but improves signal strength for people using
> > USALS. :)
> 
> The satellite position that is broadcast in the 
> SatelliteDeliverySystemDescriptor's
> OrbitalPosition/EastWestFlag on that satellite actually says 1.0W, so I'd say 
> that's
> what should be in sources.conf.

I agree. I haven't examined any of such data that satellites may broadcast. 
Ofcourse I would prefer to keep official values for them. I made some 
slight changes to some postions like 3E -> 3.1E, but I have changed them back 
to original in revised patch. I didn't check what they broadcast, 
as I don't have knowhow to read such broadcast information from stream. There 
was some completely new positions in Asia and America region, so I 
have no possiblity to check any official positions for them anyway, as I reside 
in Europe and have no possibility to receive them.

So v2 patch does not change any positions, only changes satellite names and 
adds new and removes old, no longer used satellite positions.
Also in v2 changed "Hotbird" to "Eutelsat Hot Bird", as it is now called as 
such.
--- sources.conf.orig   2013-05-23 13:10:23.0 +0300
+++ sources.conf2014-01-06 14:35:50.089495627 +0200
@@ -19,57 +19,59 @@
 
 # Europe
 
-S3E Eutelsat 3A & Rascom 1R
-S4E Eurobird 4A
-S4.8E   Astra 4A
-S7E Eutelsat W3A
-S9E Eurobird 9A
-S10EEutelsat W2A
-S13EHotbird 6/8/9
-S16EEutelsat W2M & Eurobird 16A
-S19.2E  Astra 1H/1KR/1L/1M/2C
-S21.6E  Eutelsat W6
-S23.5E  Astra 3A/3B
-S25.5E  Eurobird 2
+S3E Eutelsat 3A/3D & Rascom 1R
+S4E Eutelsat 4B
+S4.8E   Astra 4A & SES 5
+S7E Eutelsat 7A
+S9E Eutelsat 9A/Ka-Sat 9A
+S10EEutelsat 10A
+S13EEutelsat Hot Bird 13B/13C/13D
+S16EEurobird 16A/16B
+S17EAmos 5
+S19.2E  Astra 1KR/1L/1M/2C
+S21.6E  Eutelsat 21B
+S23.5E  Astra 3B
+S25.5E  Eutelsat 25B
 S26EBadr 4/5/6
-S28.2E  Astra 2A/2B/2D
-S28.5E  Eurobird 1
+S28.2E  Astra 1N/2A/2F
+S28.5E  Eutelsat 28A
 S30.5E  Arabsat 5A
 S31.5E  Astra 1G
-S33EEurobird 3 & Intelsat New Dawn
-S36EEutelsat W4/W7
-S38EPaksat 1
+S33EEutelsat 33A & Intelsat 28
+S36EEutelsat 36A/36B
+S38EPaksat 1R
 S39EHellas Sat 2
-S40EExpress AM1
 S42ETurksat 2A/3A
 S45EIntelsat 12
+S46EAzerspace-1
+S47.5E  Intelsat 10
 S49EYamal 202
+S52.5E  Yahsat 1A
 S53EExpress AM22
-S55EInsat 3E
-S56EBonum 1
+S56EDirecTV 1R
 S57ENSS 12
 S60EIntelsat 904
 S62EIntelsat 902
 S64EIntelsat 906
 S66EIntelsat 17
 S68.5E  Intelsat 7/10
-S70.5E  Eutelsat W5
-S72EIntelsat 709
+S70.5E  Eutelsat 70B
+S72EIntelsat 22
 
 # Asia
 
 S74EInsat 3C/4CR
 S75EABS 1A
-S76.5E  Apstar 2R
-S78.5E  Thaicom 5
-S

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] Update satellites in default sources.conf

2014-01-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 06.01.2014 11:28, Antti Hartikainen wrote:

Hi.

I thought it would be time to finally update outdated sources.conf. Patch is 
against sources.conf delivered with VDR 2.1.3.

Some things came up, and I would like to hear some opinions about them.

There was/is entries like:

S28.2E for Astra 2 satellites and
S28.5E for Eutelsat satellite at almost same orbital position

Both satellites are supposed to be watched with one dish and LNB, but still 
they have their own entries in sources.conf.

Similar example is "S1W Thor 5/6 & Intelsat 10-02". Thor satellites are 
positioned 0.2 degrees apart from Intelsat.

So should these satellites nearby eachother to be combined as one, or should 
every one to be separated as its own position?


If these are officially two separate positions, they should be contained as such
in sources.conf.
I have encountered the same problem while implementing the DiSEqC configuration
dialog. My approach will be to make cDiseqcs::Get() search for a suitable
DiSEqC entry with a certain tolerance. A value of +/-0.3 degrees would cover
the cases you mentioned. Or should it be even +/-0.5?


In this patch I have combined 28.2E and 28.5E positions as one 28.2E position, 
as atleast I have set them both up as one single position.


Sorry, I don't think this is a good idea.
Please make them separate again if you want your patch to be adopted.


I also wanted to change S1W to S0.8W, as it's more true, but I can imagine it 
would cause a lot of trouble for people who are using the default
sources.conf file as their sources.conf, so for now I left it as is. It doesn't 
really matter, but improves signal strength for people using
USALS. :)


The satellite position that is broadcast in the 
SatelliteDeliverySystemDescriptor's
OrbitalPosition/EastWestFlag on that satellite actually says 1.0W, so I'd say 
that's
what should be in sources.conf. Besides, if you change this, you would also 
have to change it
in your diseqc.conf and in all entries in channels.conf that reference that 
position.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 2.1.3

2014-01-06 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 06.01.2014 09:59, Reinhard Nissl wrote:

Hi,

Am 05.01.2014 12:42, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:


The changes since version 2.1.2:

- Channels that are no longer contained in the current SDT of
  a transponder are now marked with the keyword OBSOLETE in
  their name and provider fields. That way you can identify
  obsolete channels when you switch to them, and you can get the
  complete overview of all obsolete channels by sorting the
  Channels list by provider (by pressing the 0 key twice).
  Automatic deletion of obsolete channels may follow later.


What about channels on transponders which no longer get a lock while tuning, 
like S13.0E, 10930 H?


The current way of detecting obsolete channels can only work if the transponder
can still be received and a complete SDT is parsed. After that it is absolutely 
clear
that any channel still in VDRs list, but not in the SDT, is obsolete.


Shouldn't those channels be declared OBSOLTE too, when a SDT hasn't been 
received?

Maybe this should only be done if the device doesn't have a lock either, to 
avoid false positives.


There could be various reasons why a device might not have a lock, like a 
broken cable,
bad weather, snow on the dish, or maybe the uplink for that particular 
transponder is
temporarily interrupted.


But this still seems error prone -- looks like a more complex solution is 
needed which keeps track of how often a transponder has been seen dead over a 
certain period of time before declaring these channels OBSOLETE (and later 
delete them automatically).

I don't know if it is worth to extend the file format of channels.conf for that 
tracking,


I do know: it is *not* ;-).
The channels.conf file shall contain only information that is broadcast in the 
SI data.
It's bad enough we have the infamous RID in there...


but at least in memory VDR could keep track of that, starting from scratch 
whenever VDR is restarted.


Maybe detecting "dead transponders" could work by checking whether any other
transponder on the same source (and band (high/low, hor/ver) in case of DVB-S) 
can
actually be received. If one transponder can't be received, but others on the 
same
source/band can, then chances are the transponder is dead (unless the problem 
is with the
uplink). However, I'm afraid this requires quite a bit more work than the 
simple detection
of channels that are no longer in the SDT...

Klaus

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[vdr] [PATCH] Update satellites in default sources.conf

2014-01-06 Thread Antti Hartikainen
Hi.

I thought it would be time to finally update outdated sources.conf. Patch is 
against sources.conf delivered with VDR 2.1.3.

Some things came up, and I would like to hear some opinions about them.

There was/is entries like:

S28.2E for Astra 2 satellites and
S28.5E for Eutelsat satellite at almost same orbital position

Both satellites are supposed to be watched with one dish and LNB, but still 
they have their own entries in sources.conf.

Similar example is "S1W Thor 5/6 & Intelsat 10-02". Thor satellites are 
positioned 0.2 degrees apart from Intelsat.

So should these satellites nearby eachother to be combined as one, or should 
every one to be separated as its own position?

In this patch I have combined 28.2E and 28.5E positions as one 28.2E position, 
as atleast I have set them both up as one single position.

I also wanted to change S1W to S0.8W, as it's more true, but I can imagine it 
would cause a lot of trouble for people who are using the default 
sources.conf file as their sources.conf, so for now I left it as is. It doesn't 
really matter, but improves signal strength for people using 
USALS. :)
--- sources.conf.orig   2013-05-23 13:10:23.0 +0300
+++ sources.conf2014-01-06 12:06:20.790499108 +0200
@@ -19,57 +19,58 @@
 
 # Europe
 
-S3E Eutelsat 3A & Rascom 1R
-S4E Eurobird 4A
-S4.8E   Astra 4A
-S7E Eutelsat W3A
-S9E Eurobird 9A
-S10EEutelsat W2A
-S13EHotbird 6/8/9
-S16EEutelsat W2M & Eurobird 16A
-S19.2E  Astra 1H/1KR/1L/1M/2C
-S21.6E  Eutelsat W6
-S23.5E  Astra 3A/3B
-S25.5E  Eurobird 2
+S3.1E   Eutelsat 3A/3D & Rascom 1R
+S4E Eutelsat 4B
+S4.8E   Astra 4A & SES 5
+S7E Eutelsat 7A
+S9E Eutelsat 9A/Ka-Sat 9A
+S10EEutelsat 10A
+S13EHotbird 13B/13C/13D
+S16EEurobird 16A/16B
+S17EAmos 5
+S19.2E  Astra 1KR/1L/1M/2C
+S21.6E  Eutelsat 21B
+S23.5E  Astra 3B
+S25.5E  Eutelsat 25B
 S26EBadr 4/5/6
-S28.2E  Astra 2A/2B/2D
-S28.5E  Eurobird 1
+S28.2E  Astra 1N/2A/2F & Eutelsat 28A
 S30.5E  Arabsat 5A
 S31.5E  Astra 1G
-S33EEurobird 3 & Intelsat New Dawn
-S36EEutelsat W4/W7
-S38EPaksat 1
+S33EEutelsat 33A & Intelsat 28
+S36EEutelsat 36A/36B
+S38EPaksat 1R
 S39EHellas Sat 2
-S40EExpress AM1
 S42ETurksat 2A/3A
 S45EIntelsat 12
+S46EAzerspace-1
+S47.5E  Intelsat 10
 S49EYamal 202
+S52.5E  Yahsat 1A
 S53EExpress AM22
-S55EInsat 3E
-S56EBonum 1
+S56EDirecTV 1R
 S57ENSS 12
 S60EIntelsat 904
 S62EIntelsat 902
 S64EIntelsat 906
 S66EIntelsat 17
 S68.5E  Intelsat 7/10
-S70.5E  Eutelsat W5
-S72EIntelsat 709
+S70.5E  Eutelsat 70B
+S72EIntelsat 22
 
 # Asia
 
 S74EInsat 3C/4CR
 S75EABS 1A
-S76.5E  Apstar 2R
-S78.5E  Thaicom 5
-S80EExpress AM2/MD1
-S83EInsat 2E/4A
-S85.2E  Intelsat 15
-S87.5E  Chinasat 5A
-S88EST 1/2
-S90EYamal 201
+S76.5E  Apstar 7
+S78.5E  Thaicom 5/6A
+S80EExpress AM2
+S83EInsat 4A
+S85.2E  Intelsat 15 & Horizons 2
+S87.5E  ChinaSat 12
+S88EST 2
+S90EYamal 201/300K
 S91.5E  Measat 3/3A
-S92.2E  Chinasat 9
+S92.2E  ChinaSat 9
 S93.5E  Insat 3A/4B
 S95ENSS 6
 S96.5E  Express AM33
@@ -77,21 +78,22 @@
 S103E   Express A2
 S105.5E Asiasat 3S
 S108.2E Telkom 1 & NSS 11 & SES 7
-S110E   N-Sat 110 & BSAT 2C/3A
-S110.5E Chinasat 10
+S110E   N-Sat 110 & BSAT 3A/3C
+S110.5E ChinaSat 10
 S113E   Palapa D & Koreasat 5
-S116E   Koreasat 6
+S115.5E ChinaSat 6B
+S116E   ABS 7 & Koreasat 6
 S118E   Telkom 2
+S119.5E Thaicom 4
 S122.2E Asiasat 4
-S124E   JCSAT 4A
-S125E   Chinasat 6A
-S128E   JCSAT RA
-S132E   Vinasat 1 & JCSAT5A
+S124E   JCSAT 4B
+S125E   ChinaSat 6A
+S128E   JCSAT 3A
+S132E   Vinasat 1/2 & JCSAT 5A
 S134E   Apstar 6
 S138E   Telstar 18
 S140E   Express AM3
 S144E   Superbird C2
-S146E   ABS 5
 S150E   JCSAT 1B
 S152E   Optus D2
 S154E   JCSAT 2A
@@ -99,73 +101,73 @@
 S160E   Optus D1
 S162E   Superbird B2
 S164E   Optus B3
-S166E   Intelsat 8
-S169E   Intelsat 5
-S172E   GE 23
-S180E   Intelsat 701
+S166E   Intelsat 19
+S169E   Intelsat 8
+S172E   Eutelsat 172A
+S180E   Intelsat 18
 S177W   NSS 9
 
 # Atlantic
 
 S1W Thor 5/6 & Intelsat 10-02
 S4W Amos 2/3
-S5W Atlantic Bird 3
-S7W Nilesat 101/102/201 & Atlantic Bird 4A
-S8W Telecom 2D & Atlantic Bird 2
+S5W Eutelsat 5 West A
+S7W Nilesat 101/201 & Eutelsat 7 West A
+S8W Eutelsat 8 West A/C
 S11WExpress AM44
-S12.5W  Atlantic Bird 1
+S12.5W  Eutelsat 12 West A
 S14WExpress A4
 S15WTelstar 12
 S18WIntelsat 901
-S20WNSS 5
-S22WNSS 7
+S20WNSS 7
+S22WSES 4
 S24.5W  Intelsat 905
 S27.5W  Intelsat 907
-S30WHispasat 1C/1D/1E
+S30WHispasat 1D/1E
 S31.5W  Intelsat 25
 S34.5W  Intelsat 903
 S37.5W  NSS 10 & Telstar 11N
-S40.5W  NSS 806
+S40.5W  SES 6
 S43WIntelsat 11
 S45WIntelsat 14
 S50WIntelsat 1R
-S53WIntelsat 707
+S53WIntelsat 23
 S55.5W  Intelsat 805
-S58WIntelsat 9/16
-S61WAmazonas 1/2
+S58WIntelsat 21
+S61WAmazonas 2/3
 
 # Ame

Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 2.1.3

2014-01-06 Thread Reinhard Nissl

Hi,

Am 05.01.2014 12:42, schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:


The changes since version 2.1.2:

- Channels that are no longer contained in the current SDT of
  a transponder are now marked with the keyword OBSOLETE in
  their name and provider fields. That way you can identify
  obsolete channels when you switch to them, and you can get the
  complete overview of all obsolete channels by sorting the
  Channels list by provider (by pressing the 0 key twice).
  Automatic deletion of obsolete channels may follow later.


What about channels on transponders which no longer get a lock 
while tuning, like S13.0E, 10930 H?


Shouldn't those channels be declared OBSOLTE too, when a SDT 
hasn't been received?


Maybe this should only be done if the device doesn't have a lock 
either, to avoid false positives.


But this still seems error prone -- looks like a more complex 
solution is needed which keeps track of how often a transponder 
has been seen dead over a certain period of time before declaring 
these channels OBSOLETE (and later delete them automatically).


I don't know if it is worth to extend the file format of 
channels.conf for that tracking, but at least in memory VDR could 
keep track of that, starting from scratch whenever VDR is restarted.


Bye.
--
Dipl.-Inform. (FH) Reinhard Nissl
mailto:rni...@gmx.de

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