Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
Well now I'm just not sure, the shop was out of stock so I didn't get one in the end but some people seem to be having real issues with this card. Maybe I'll stick with my single tuner for a bit longer. Be nice if they'd do linux support for the Terratec 2400i dt, then I'd actually have use for my 1x PCIe slot :) Cheers, Alex ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
On 6/26/07, Soeren Sonnenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't buy this card if you want to use it in a permanent (i.e. vdr) setup where your computer is on 24/7. You will notice disconnects every now an then rendering the device rather useless... And yes this still happens with *any* kernel version (2.6.20 - 21.5) + even the experimental mercurial tree out there... Soeren Well our experience with the T500 differs to yours. We have multiple T500's in multiple 'permanent' vdr installations that are running 24/7. We don't see disconnects under Kubuntu 7.04. The only area where I can say we have had some issues with the T500 is related to its ability to hold onto a signal in some situations. It seems more sensitive to transmission quality/strength than other cards or external usb DVB devices we have tested. But in our experience these have been relatively minor issues. All I can say is that is our experience. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 09:53 +0100, Alex Stansfield wrote: > Hi, > > This seems like a pretty dumb question but I hadn't seen it mentioned > before and just wanted to check. > > I'm looking to buy a dual tuner card, most likely the WinTV Nova-T 500. > > My question is, as long as the card is supported in Linux will vdr treat > it as two dvb-t devices? Don't buy this card if you want to use it in a permanent (i.e. vdr) setup where your computer is on 24/7. You will notice disconnects every now an then rendering the device rather useless... And yes this still happens with *any* kernel version (2.6.20 - 21.5) + even the experimental mercurial tree out there... Soeren -- Sometimes, there's a moment as you're waking, when you become aware of the real world around you, but you're still dreaming. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
On 6/25/07, Torgeir Veimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 25 Jun 2007, at 11:41, Chris Jones wrote: Hi Laz wrote: I did read stuff a while back about people getting USB disconnects from them at random but I've never seen that with mine. Are we saying that the Hauppauge USB dual tuner ones work? That would seriously make my day! The nova-t 500 is a PCI card, but has an internal USB bus. The nova-t 500 doesn't work reliably at my location. An older nova-t works very well. The problem is with transmissions where the actual transmission frequency doesn't match the frequency in the PAT/PMT tables, or if using automatic settings for inversion, qam, hierarchy etc. See log below when tuning with w_scan. The nova-t 500s remote sensor doesn't work yet. I wouldn't recommend this card for use under linux at the moment. It's a hit or miss. Well the T500 is working well for us in multiple machines (one has 3 x T500's installed) under Kubuntu 7.04 and Kernel 2.6.20-15-generic. We are using the Hauppauge remote successfully with MS mce compatible IR receivers. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
Hi Torgeir Veimo wrote: > The nova-t 500 is a PCI card, but has an internal USB bus. Is the hard-wired USB device the same as they sell separately? (WinTV-Nova-TD) I'm prepared to suffer a bit of weirdness while the drivers improve if I can free up a valuable PCI slot in my HTPC! Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tenshu.net ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards (Nova-T 500)
On Monday 25 June 2007 11:57, Richard Lithvall wrote: > On 6/25/07, *Laz* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> I did read stuff a while back about people getting USB disconnects > >> from them at random but I've never seen that with mine. > > Andrew Herron wrote: > > Same here... no disconnects. > > Which kernel are you running on? I'm still on 2.6.20 and are > experiencing disconnects approx every 14 days... I haven't seen any > decent report on the DVB-mailinglist that this issue have been solved. I'm running a 2.6.20 kernel (I think I originally used the cvs DVB drivers for the card but I'm pretty sure they're now the stock kernel ones). As for disconnects, seeing as the USB devices are hard-wired, they shouldn't disconnect! I've got a couple of the external USB2 Nova-t devices and they go through phases of randomly doing a USB disconnect. Maybe it's down to luck whether your dual card disconnects or not (dodgy solder joints, or something?): I was a bit worried about this when I was buying mine but I've never seen this one disconnect. The remote sensor doesn't work but then I'm using a home-brew LIRC detector which I've found to work much better than the Hauppaugue (sp?!) detectors so the lack of remote sensor isn't an issue for me. I'd get another one if my Epia board had a second PCI slot! Cheers, Laz ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
On 25 Jun 2007, at 11:41, Chris Jones wrote: Hi Laz wrote: I did read stuff a while back about people getting USB disconnects from them at random but I've never seen that with mine. Are we saying that the Hauppauge USB dual tuner ones work? That would seriously make my day! The nova-t 500 is a PCI card, but has an internal USB bus. The nova-t 500 doesn't work reliably at my location. An older nova-t works very well. The problem is with transmissions where the actual transmission frequency doesn't match the frequency in the PAT/PMT tables, or if using automatic settings for inversion, qam, hierarchy etc. See log below when tuning with w_scan. The nova-t 500s remote sensor doesn't work yet. I wouldn't recommend this card for use under linux at the moment. It's a hit or miss. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# w_scan w_scan version 20060902 Info: using DVB adapter auto detection. Info: unable to open frontend /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' Found DVB-T frontend. Using adapter /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 -_-_-_-_ Getting frontend capabilities-_-_-_-_ frontend DiBcom 3000MC/P supports INVERSION_AUTO QAM_AUTO TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO HIERARCHY_AUTO FEC_AUTO -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ 177500: 184500: 191500: 198500: 205500: 212500: 219500: 226500: 474000: 482000: signal ok (I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999) 49: 498000: 506000: signal ok (I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999) 514000: 522000: 53: signal ok (I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999) 538000: signal ok (I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999) 546000: 554000: 562000: signal ok (I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999) 57: 578000: 586000: 594000: 602000: 61: 618000: 626000: 634000: 642000: 65: 658000: 666000: 674000: 682000: 69: 698000: 706000: 714000: 722000: 73: 738000: 746000: 754000: 762000: 77: 778000: 786000: 794000: 802000: 81: 818000: 826000: 834000: 842000: 85: 858000: tune to: :482000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999:T:27500: Info: filter timeout pid 0x0011 Info: filter timeout pid 0x Info: filter timeout pid 0x0010 tune to: :506000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999:T:27500: Info: filter timeout pid 0x0011 Info: filter timeout pid 0x Info: filter timeout pid 0x0010 tune to: :53:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999:T:27500: Info: filter timeout pid 0x0011 Info: filter timeout pid 0x Info: filter timeout pid 0x0010 tune to: :538000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999:T:27500: Info: filter timeout pid 0x0011 Info: filter timeout pid 0x Info: filter timeout pid 0x0010 tune to: :562000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y999:T:27500: Info: filter timeout pid 0x0011 Info: filter timeout pid 0x Info: filter timeout pid 0x0010 dumping lists (0 services) Done. -- Torgeir Veimo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards (Nova-T 500)
On 6/25/07, *Laz* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I did read stuff a while back about people getting USB disconnects from >> them at random but I've never seen that with mine. Andrew Herron wrote: > Same here... no disconnects. Which kernel are you running on? I'm still on 2.6.20 and are experiencing disconnects approx every 14 days... I haven't seen any decent report on the DVB-mailinglist that this issue have been solved. Regards, Richard ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
Hi Laz wrote: > I did read stuff a while back about people getting USB disconnects from > them at random but I've never seen that with mine. Are we saying that the Hauppauge USB dual tuner ones work? That would seriously make my day! Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tenshu.net ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
Thank you both for your swift replies. Now off to the shop to buy one. Cheers, Alex ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
Same here... no disconnects. On 6/25/07, Laz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 25 June 2007 09:53, Alex Stansfield wrote: > Hi, > > This seems like a pretty dumb question but I hadn't seen it mentioned > before and just wanted to check. > > I'm looking to buy a dual tuner card, most likely the WinTV Nova-T 500. > > My question is, as long as the card is supported in Linux will vdr > treat it as two dvb-t devices? I've got one and it works a treat. It does just appear as two separate DVB devices. I did read stuff a while back about people getting USB disconnects from them at random but I've never seen that with mine. Cheers, Laz ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
yes it will. No problem at all. On 6/25/07, Alex Stansfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, This seems like a pretty dumb question but I hadn't seen it mentioned before and just wanted to check. I'm looking to buy a dual tuner card, most likely the WinTV Nova-T 500. My question is, as long as the card is supported in Linux will vdr treat it as two dvb-t devices? Cheers, Alex ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
On Monday 25 June 2007 09:53, Alex Stansfield wrote: > Hi, > > This seems like a pretty dumb question but I hadn't seen it mentioned > before and just wanted to check. > > I'm looking to buy a dual tuner card, most likely the WinTV Nova-T 500. > > My question is, as long as the card is supported in Linux will vdr > treat it as two dvb-t devices? I've got one and it works a treat. It does just appear as two separate DVB devices. I did read stuff a while back about people getting USB disconnects from them at random but I've never seen that with mine. Cheers, Laz ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] Dual Tuner Cards
Hi, This seems like a pretty dumb question but I hadn't seen it mentioned before and just wanted to check. I'm looking to buy a dual tuner card, most likely the WinTV Nova-T 500. My question is, as long as the card is supported in Linux will vdr treat it as two dvb-t devices? Cheers, Alex ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr